tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post1358612170246595713..comments2024-03-29T09:40:20.675-04:00Comments on field negro: Oh boy!field negrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-29852955611735217712008-04-16T02:28:00.000-04:002008-04-16T02:28:00.000-04:00singaporeswim..."in bj's assumption, sbo w/n/b as ...singaporeswim..."in bj's assumption, sbo w/n/b as far as he is in his prezzie bid if he were white and if not for his overwhelming support among blacks."<BR/><BR/>Again, what each of us "heard," is subjective at best since neither of us know the man. But I can't, for the life of me, see what is incorrect about this statement.<BR/><BR/>All other things being equal, if a white freshman senator threw his hat in the ring for president, I doubt he'd be in the same position in this race - if at all. And as far as the last part, though we are only about 12-13% of the population, all we need do is look at the huge Black turnout at primaries and caucuses and the mind-blowing number of newly registered Black voters - SINCE the senator became a SERIOUS contender - to know that it has made a big difference. Hopefully, it'll stay that way whether he wins or loses because there's a whole lot of shit that needs this kind of attention! Imagine how different our lives would be today if we'd been THIS politically engaged, THIS politically active long ago!<BR/><BR/>Don't get me wrong, whites are voting for him in large numbers as well(and I have my own theories about that as well), but I don't think their vote alone would have positioned him where is today. <BR/><BR/>I believe there is inherent racism in a lot of white people given the history of this country. Whether they want to own it or not, many still harbor that feeling of supremacy. Is Ferraro one of them? I don't presume to know what's in her heart. That being said, however, I did not see her comment as "racial" theory - but fact, based on the presidential elections for the 51 years I've been alive.<BR/> <BR/>She said, "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position,...And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept." <BR/><BR/>Again, all other things being equal, if the senator were a white, freshman senator with no other experience than his days in IL, I doubt he'd be in the position he is in today. All things being equal (freshman senator with no other experience than his days in IL), if he were a woman of any color, he would not be in the position he is in today. She didn't say "simply b/c he's a lucky black man." And the country IS caught up in the concept of having the first Black president - for a lot of different reasons.<BR/><BR/>And as much as I hate how Bob Johnson sold us down the river for those dollar bills, I don't think it's fair to assume a lack of substance about the man. He is a Black man, born in Mississippi, raised in Illinois, with a bachelor's from the University of Illinois and a master's in International Affairs from the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton University.<BR/><BR/>Like Sen. Obama, circumstances operated in his favor making a way for the creation of BET and the later sale that netted him a gazillion dollars. And as my grandmother always said, "Money breeds money." Hence the NBA/WNBA franchises, seats on boards of prominent companies, etc.<BR/><BR/>**Field, apologize for taking up so much space***DebChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02018798227792356966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-39615611643062148652008-04-16T02:12:00.000-04:002008-04-16T02:12:00.000-04:00"What I believe Geraldine Ferraro meant..." Johnso...<I>"What I believe Geraldine Ferraro meant..." </I><BR/><BR/>Johnson admits he speculating--he's not sure what Ferraro meant.<BR/><BR/>I'm aware that both are Hillary supporters, yet Johnson feels a need to rescue Ferraro. His late statement on the subject neither hurts Obama, or helps Hillary.<BR/><BR/>Was his response a reply to a direct question, or was it gratis?<BR/><BR/><I>"Jerry Smith...would he start off with 90 percent of the black vote?"</I><BR/><BR/>I don't believe that Obama's blackness has given, or is giving him, an edge; I don't care how you slice and dice it. Whether any candidate, white or black, starts out with 90% of black votes is, in the scope of things, meaningless.<BR/><BR/>Whites in this society are the difference makers when it comes to who will or will not be president. They still outnumber blacks substantially.<BR/><BR/>So I question Geraldine Ferraro's motive in making the statement. Was she trying to create a dustup where none existed? <BR/><BR/>Was she trying to pit whites against blacks, reminding them that blacks were supporting blacks, and whites should be supporting whites?<BR/><BR/>What kind of response would an Obama surrogate have received if he/she had said that Hillary was a lucky white woman? She gets to start off with 90 percent of the white vote, and the female vote to booth, because she is a white female and the wife of an ex-president.<BR/><BR/><I>"Geraldine Ferraro said it right. The problem is, Geraldine Ferraro is white."</I><BR/><BR/>Hmm. <I>He</I> brings in race here. Would she have been less right had she been black? Wouldn't a black suffer the same reception, had he or she made such a statement?<BR/><BR/>And the answer is, probably yes....<BR/><BR/><I>"This campaign has such a hair-trigger on anything racial ... it is almost impossible for anybody to say anything."</I><BR/><BR/>He should know. He's certainly guilty of saying some racially-charged statements himself. And Obama has been attacked for racially insensitive remarks as well.<BR/><BR/>The society in which we live has a "hair-trigger" mentality on "anything racial." It's not something blacks have brought to the table. It's a staple of this society, and a dish on every table.<BR/><BR/><I>"...if you take a freshman senator..."</I><BR/><BR/>I didn't realize that a candidate for a national party had to first "make bones," internship for a time, or earn his "merit badges" before being considered a viable candidate.<BR/><BR/>I believe that the thrust of the statement was to point out Obama's lack of experience for the job--a theme used many times in this campaign.<BR/><BR/>I'd say: Let run who wishes, regardless of qualifications (who gets to decide that anyway--a panel of judges? A written exam, perhaps?). Let the American people sort it out. <BR/><BR/>One final point. I'd put Johnson in the House for no other reason than, right or wrong,<I> he has put himself in the position to defend Hillary</I>--his credibility is shot (He doesn't appear to be his own man.).<BR/><BR/>The perception is he owes so many (He's no longer unbossed and unbought.), that anything he says on Hillary's behalf is suspect--which makes him a House Negro in my book.<BR/><BR/>Given his sullied reputation in the black community, he'd do well to shut up and support no one. <BR/><BR/>That he's supporting Hillary while 90% of blacks have turned their backs on the Clinton's, and are supporting Obama, seems to be just another finger in the eye he's already blackened.<BR/><BR/>I say, keep his ass in the big house. He no longer knows 'I' from 'We'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-51997060560999197502008-04-16T00:28:00.000-04:002008-04-16T00:28:00.000-04:00deb,in bj's assumption, sbo w/n/b as far as he is ...deb,<BR/>in bj's assumption, sbo w/n/b as far as he is in his prezzie bid if he were white and if not for his overwhelming support among blacks. he's basically rubber stamping geraldine ferraro's "racial" theory and both of them conclude that all of this fortunate fate has come sbo's way simply b/c he's a lucky black man. bj should know!SingaporeSwimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14324188257570511872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-39191897210828618152008-04-16T00:14:00.000-04:002008-04-16T00:14:00.000-04:00singaporeswim..."would he start off with 90 percen...singaporeswim..."would he start off with 90 percent of the black vote?" You're absolutely right if that was the point of his entire statement.<BR/><BR/>As I said in my previous comment, "IMHO he's not factually wrong if the emphasis is on "freshman" senator which I think it is - "if" being the operative word in my statement.<BR/><BR/>I can't say which is the point of his statement, the 90% or the freshman senator part. What each of us "heard," based on our own experiences, is subjective at best since neither of us know the man. And that's okay too. Appreciate the dialogue though!DebChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02018798227792356966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-40076358064419259202008-04-15T23:57:00.000-04:002008-04-15T23:57:00.000-04:00deb,bj was factually wrong when he offered this......deb,<BR/>bj was factually wrong when he offered this...<BR/><B>would he start off with 90 percent of the black vote?"</B><BR/>...since sbo did not "start off with 90% of the black vote."SingaporeSwimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14324188257570511872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-73255155894672116732008-04-15T23:15:00.000-04:002008-04-15T23:15:00.000-04:00Field...My personal feelings about Bob Johnson eng...Field...My personal feelings about Bob Johnson engaging in "house negro" behavior wa-a-a-y before now with his auctioning off of Black America with BET aside, I just don't get why THIS particular comment is house negro behavior? "...if you take a freshman senator from Illinois called 'Jerry Smith' and he says I'm going to run for president, would he start off with 90 percent of the black vote? And the answer is, probably not."<BR/><BR/>I know I'm in the minority here, but what is incorrect about this statement? The fact that he's Black and said it about Sen. Obama? Or the fact that he's Black and is agreeing with and politically supporting two white women? I just don't get it.<BR/><BR/>singaporeswim..."he's factually wrong b/c hill had the majority of the black vote early on in the campaigns - before sc."<BR/><BR/>IMHO he's not factually wrong if the emphasis is on "freshman" senator which I think it is. Hill is not a freshman senator. And rightly or wrongly (at least until he repeatedly kept acting like he was the one RUNNING for president), she was getting a lot of the Black vote early on based largely on Blacks' perceptions, again rightly or wrongly, of better times during the Clinton presidency.DebChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02018798227792356966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-68726139004354526822008-04-15T22:22:00.000-04:002008-04-15T22:22:00.000-04:00Shonuf -"An apology in today's society is nothing ...Shonuf -<BR/><BR/>"An apology in today's society is nothing more than a concession that I got caught, not a true sign of contrition."<BR/><BR/>So so true.<BR/><BR/>Never, ever again!<BR/><BR/>.Ms.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17355202209421916993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-53063508775362032722008-04-15T22:20:00.000-04:002008-04-15T22:20:00.000-04:00in re: your bill o'wful sidebar.remember field, th...in re: your bill o'wful sidebar.<BR/>remember field, this is the same person who was surprised that the natives weren't eating with their hands and calling each other mofo's when he visited sylvia's in harlem last year.<BR/>consider the source.SingaporeSwimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14324188257570511872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-71717208879500708852008-04-15T22:18:00.000-04:002008-04-15T22:18:00.000-04:00oop! i just noticed your reference to bob johnson'...oop! i just noticed your reference to bob johnson's comments in the sidebar.SingaporeSwimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14324188257570511872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-69499048259707511592008-04-15T22:04:00.000-04:002008-04-15T22:04:00.000-04:00bob's comments are more dismissive and disrespectf...bob's comments are more dismissive and disrespectful of sbo than congressman davis'.SingaporeSwimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14324188257570511872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-50768523560357520762008-04-15T22:00:00.000-04:002008-04-15T22:00:00.000-04:00field,did'ya hear what former bet head bob johnson...field,<BR/>did'ya hear what former bet head bob johnson had to say about sbo today?<BR/><BR/><B>"What I believe Geraldine Ferraro meant is that if you take a freshman senator from Illinois called `Jerry Smith' and he says I'm going to run for president, would he start off with 90 percent of the black vote?" Johnson said. "And the answer is, probably not... ." <BR/><BR/>"Geraldine Ferraro said it right. The problem is, Geraldine Ferraro is white. This campaign has such a hair-trigger on anything racial ... it is almost impossible for anybody to say anything.</B><BR/><BR/>he's factually wrong b/c hill had the majority of the black vote early on in the campaigns - before sc.<BR/><BR/>what a bloke!SingaporeSwimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14324188257570511872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-12509273737677831982008-04-15T21:40:00.000-04:002008-04-15T21:40:00.000-04:00What do people think of this backwards self-hating...What do people think of this backwards self-hating blogger?<BR/>Somehow Obama is elitist but Hilary is not because the blogger waves some magic wand of race and class-absolution.<BR/>http://egarooo.blogspot.com/2008/04/no-vote-equals-racist-vote.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-9298344465413135452008-04-15T21:17:00.000-04:002008-04-15T21:17:00.000-04:00rikyrah said... Yes, it was racist.I like the way ...rikyrah said... <BR/><I>Yes, it was racist.</I><BR/><BR/>I like the way you never hold back. Your dam is never gonna break because of pent-up water.<BR/><BR/>You're gonna flood the valley every chance you get.<BR/><BR/>Folks just gotta learn how to swim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-79970981904762958982008-04-15T19:40:00.000-04:002008-04-15T19:40:00.000-04:00Yes, it was racist.Period. NO White Man from Kentu...Yes, it was racist.<BR/><BR/>Period. <BR/><BR/>NO White Man from Kentucky, is ignorant of what BOY means when referencing a Black MAN. <BR/><BR/>NO WHITE MAN.<BR/><BR/>Period.<BR/><BR/>And yeah, we need to call it out everytime it happens. <BR/><BR/>Obama is an United States SENATOR.<BR/>This clown is a mere CONGRESSMAN. <BR/><BR/>Hell yeah, he knew exactly what he was saying.rikyrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10982657053583534299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-35177143979827876342008-04-15T18:59:00.000-04:002008-04-15T18:59:00.000-04:00dear field,we should thank this redneck for his ma...dear field,we should thank this redneck for his macaca slip. it reminds everybody what side is upandyfrombrooklynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14483081847514184492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-62365109286106172012008-04-15T18:29:00.000-04:002008-04-15T18:29:00.000-04:00One thing Obama's candidacy is, is a Rorschach tes...One thing Obama's candidacy is, is a Rorschach test for people's racial sensititivities, or the lack thereof. Some white liberals (consciously or not) view him as a way to wash their forefathers' hands of slavery and Jim Crow.<BR/><BR/>Reps like Davis are one reason I moved from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-30542097640570333272008-04-15T18:28:00.000-04:002008-04-15T18:28:00.000-04:00MaxW said... White Haired Women For Barack ObamaTh...MaxW said... <BR/><I>White Haired Women For Barack Obama</I><BR/><BR/>Thanks MaxW. Those "White Haired Women" rock.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-52828774322372435402008-04-15T17:33:00.000-04:002008-04-15T17:33:00.000-04:00The man's name is Geoff Davis, he is from the sout...The man's name is Geoff Davis, he is from the south. He clearly knew what he was doing. He should be called on it we should never give a pass, but we shouldn't linger on the issue either.Amentahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13876681992868014576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-55958089793318565752008-04-15T17:07:00.000-04:002008-04-15T17:07:00.000-04:00and then we have his black counterpart, Bob Johnso...and then we have his black counterpart, Bob Johnson, telling the Charlotte Observer that this "boy" would not be where he was if he was named "Jerry Smith" ... yes, that's the Bob Johnson who has brought us all that uplifting, respectful television programming...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-75853230546600220482008-04-15T16:43:00.000-04:002008-04-15T16:43:00.000-04:00I don't have anything to add to this conversation ...I don't have anything to add to this conversation but, "damn! couldn't you have zoomed out on that photo? Yuck!" His dental hygiene is as outdated as his "boy" reference. His mug is hard enough on the eyes without that smile to boot. Are they still chewing tobacco in Kentucky? Are there no crest white strips to be found?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-40735884421298887952008-04-15T16:37:00.000-04:002008-04-15T16:37:00.000-04:00White Haired Women For Barack Obama:http://www.you...White Haired Women For Barack Obama:<BR/><A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpDTvlSd0x4" REL="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpDTvlSd0x4</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-16675580937176384622008-04-15T15:51:00.000-04:002008-04-15T15:51:00.000-04:00It seems to me that the "boy" comment is just an e...It seems to me that the "boy" comment is just an extension of the claims that Obama doesn't have experience or that he's the affirmative action candidate, and I have to believe that the statement was said on purpose, knowing of course that after the fact, it could be apologized for, yeah, a poor choice of blah blah blah, meanwhile, you can't unring the bell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-51921256422237344282008-04-15T15:40:00.000-04:002008-04-15T15:40:00.000-04:00That picture... he's definitely from Kentucky. Nic...That picture... he's definitely from Kentucky. Nice selection.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-52923048618044706442008-04-15T15:32:00.000-04:002008-04-15T15:32:00.000-04:00yo feild i read your blog everyday i come to work ...yo feild i read your blog everyday i come to work and i agree with like 99% of everthing that you post (probly more than that) i wanted to know if being that your based out of philly could i get some of your thoughts of Mumia who if the government wasn't so intent on murdering in my opinion would be a much better president than this Obamayoungstokelyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03244517555577897540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-57383695458401433662008-04-15T15:29:00.000-04:002008-04-15T15:29:00.000-04:00You said, "the natives are restless"!!! *lol*If yo...You said, "the natives are restless"!!! *lol*<BR/><BR/>If you don't stop, I'm calling the police! *lol*<BR/><BR/>Lisa<BR/>http://blackwomenblowthetrumpet.blogspot.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com