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Obviously you feel BD has ear...<i>I admire your heart. Obviously you feel BD has earned your respect. Good luck with that.</i><br /><br />She can also un-earn it, but it'll take some time for that. Tempers are running high at the moment.grinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884922107235885961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-46258561918423998212009-09-28T01:21:33.013-04:002009-09-28T01:21:33.013-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.grinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884922107235885961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-71374217438751437532009-09-28T01:20:10.141-04:002009-09-28T01:20:10.141-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.grinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884922107235885961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-74209599526325391782009-09-27T22:29:34.163-04:002009-09-27T22:29:34.163-04:00grinder "I respect BD. Some of the others, no...grinder "I respect BD. Some of the others, not so much."<br /><br />I admire your heart. Obviously you feel BD has earned your respect. Good luck with that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-57736424837350089052009-09-27T19:23:53.836-04:002009-09-27T19:23:53.836-04:00I respect BD. Some of the others, not so much.I respect BD. Some of the others, not so much.grinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884922107235885961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-27560096244553905852009-09-27T18:56:54.168-04:002009-09-27T18:56:54.168-04:00grinder "The poet knows where he is going, th...grinder "The poet knows where he is going, though he doesn’t always know he knows. He works in showing what he didn’t know he knew." – Ned Rorem, New York Diaries"<br /><br />great quote and it suits BD. Yeah, that sidekick stuff by BD is laughable considering all of the sidekicks she has. <br /><br />But as Anais Nin used to say, "We don't see others as they are, we see them as we are."<br /><br />Nevertheless, it's been fun roasting BD and her admirers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-23556552943467347042009-09-27T17:12:18.627-04:002009-09-27T17:12:18.627-04:00Why would you deny me my own words? They don't...<i>Why would you deny me my own words? They don't belong to you. They're mine.</i><br /><br />You can have any words you want, but you can wind up revealing what you never intended to reveal.<br /><br />"The poet knows where he is going, though he doesn’t always know he knows. He works in showing what he didn’t know he knew." – Ned Rorem, New York Diaries<br /><br /><i>I don't know where your new sidekick, and now, army buddy, showed up from, but s/he's squarely in your corner.</i><br /><br />Ha ha! Sidekick. Like I need one. BD, thanks for today's laugh!grinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884922107235885961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-9877437091953886242009-09-27T16:54:27.384-04:002009-09-27T16:54:27.384-04:00Anon: "The benefit of the above advice is tha...Anon: "The benefit of the above advice is that not only will you feel better, you will become a better person. Besides, everyone can see your flaws anyway, except you and maybe your band of followers." <br /><br />You've been a lot of fun, and I've enjoyed the exchange.<br /><br />I know where the trail ends, and you've brought me closer to it.<br /><br />Up ahead, there's a sign in the road...!Black Diasporahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08890792781361839105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-2015353122305211742009-09-27T16:10:42.116-04:002009-09-27T16:10:42.116-04:00You three are so enmeshed that you probably can...<i>You three are so enmeshed that you probably can't go to the toilet without determining who needs to go. Do any of you ever disagree? I imagine that would be too frightening for all of you. Your little cult would fall apart.</i><br /><br />Bwahahahahaha!<br /><br />I think this is the first time La Incognita has EVER agreed with me, and while I do love to share an agreeable concept with a like-minded thinker, I won't hold my breath for it to happen again! She is 100% her own self, which I admire and appreciate, though I don't often see things her way.<br /><br />As for Black Diaspora--she makes me think, she speaks clearly, she does NOT suffer fools gladly, and she cuts through bullshit with a terrible swift sword. I've grown to appreciate what she can teach me, and perceive her to be one of the wisest scholars I've ever known.<br /><br />You crazy, anonymous whoever-you-are. At least grinder has the eggs to adopt a handle and jump into the fray honestly.Race Traitoresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14255889194578513886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-87940838326531869252009-09-27T14:14:29.725-04:002009-09-27T14:14:29.725-04:00Got to disagree with your post - I love President ...Got to disagree with your post - I love President Clinton - he's the best President this country has had in my lifetime.<br /><br />Yes, he had faults - "loved" women a little too much, but to insinuate that he is racist is going too far. <br /><br />If Clinton is the best you can do to show that the left also has racists, you're not doing too well.Patricia Kaydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07836381858165025496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-66319678003498562172009-09-27T13:40:43.545-04:002009-09-27T13:40:43.545-04:00@BD "I don't know where your new sidekick...@BD "I don't know where your new sidekick, and now, army buddy, showed up from, but s/he's squarely in your corner. A little wet behind the ears, but Granny will straighten him/her out."<br /><br />I am not anybody's sidekick and I don't stand in anybody's corner unless they are right. <br /><br />But it is clear to EVERYONE that 'BD' needs a lot of "sidekicks" on this blog. It is a good thing because you DO need it, to protect your faulty thinking and weak opinions. <br /><br />Now you are drawing Granny into the mix? Boy, you are really bringing out the big guns, aren't you? You must be really afraid. <br /><br />How many are in your gang? four? five? ten? You come off as some child crying out for her grandmother for consolement when your feelings have been hurt-and you are frightened. <br /><br />At your age, don't you think it's time you learned to stand on your own two feet? Or are you so old that it's too late to learn anything new? <br /><br />Two pieces of advice for you BD, although you are too prideful to accept advice: <br /><br />1.Give up your denials and accept your anger and resentments as being human. <br /><br />2.Try being human and join the rest of the human race on earth. Don't let your prideful "ego" get in the way of being human. That's what you are here for. <br /><br />The benefit of the above advice is that not only will you feel better, you will become a better person. Besides, everyone can see your flaws anyway, except you and maybe your band of followers. <br /><br />And stop using Granny for your own ego needs. It makes you look like a jerk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-53248179151890047752009-09-27T13:38:51.536-04:002009-09-27T13:38:51.536-04:00BD "I'm just not that ego-driven."
...BD "I'm just not that ego-driven."<br /><br />Only an ego would make such a self-serving statement like that. BD, you are All ego-driven but you wouldn't know it because, well, you are ego-driven and consequently blinded by it.<br /><br />@BD "I'm afraid that you don't know all the players here, or you wouldn't have jumped to such a rash conclusion." <br /><br />If you are referring to your followers-RT and LI- I have no interest in knowing them or their opinions. They can't cover for you, or how you come across. They cannot validate your warped thinking by calling it wisdom. Your little gang of space cadets don't influence me and I am sure there are others who feel the same way. <br /><br />You prove nothing except that the three of you are like emotional invalids joined at the hips. You are like puppies in a litter huddling together out of fear. <br /><br />You three are so enmeshed that you probably can't go to the toilet without determining who needs to go. Do any of you ever disagree? I imagine that would be too frightening for all of you. Your little cult would fall apart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-89147916774322180002009-09-27T08:25:05.358-04:002009-09-27T08:25:05.358-04:00"Of course BD is in pain over racism. Plus sh..."Of course BD is in pain over racism. Plus she's really pissed off at me...."<br /><br />Now, that's funny. On both accounts, Grinder, you're wrong. But believe what you choose. I don't give a damn.<br /><br />"But Black Diaspora's words have to be seen as a rhetorical statement of defiance and anger. I don't take her denial of pain literally. You can't be angry without being in pain about something."<br /><br />Why would you deny me my own words? They don't belong to you. They're mine.<br /><br />I say what I mean, and mean what I say. No rhetorical flourishes. No dialectic subterfuge.<br /><br />And if I did choose to be angry at you, that would be my choice, too.<br /><br />Grinder, I can be whatever I choose to be--with, or without your approval.<br /><br />Let's see: Anon posted here at 8:22PM. You posted here at 10:32 PM.<br /><br />Riddle me this: If I'm so pissed off at you, why would I post over at your blog on/at September 26, 2009 2:50 PM?<br /><br />I would have responded here sooner, had I not been out most of the day.<br /><br />I don't know where your new sidekick, and now, army buddy, showed up from, but s/he's squarely in your corner. A little wet behind the ears, but Granny will straighten him/her out. <br /><br />Young whelp!Black Diasporahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08890792781361839105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-8988110229473561572009-09-27T07:54:31.116-04:002009-09-27T07:54:31.116-04:00@Race Traitoress: "I'm very thankful for ...@Race Traitoress: "I'm very thankful for your voice."<br /><br />And I'm thankful for yours. Yours is a voice "crying in the wilderness." Some are hearing you, while others are content to hear their own voice.<br /><br />But speak, we must!Black Diasporahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08890792781361839105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-77572341627169089392009-09-27T07:44:46.662-04:002009-09-27T07:44:46.662-04:00@La♥Incognita: "I just love it when you come ...@La♥Incognita: "I just love it when you come around to share your high quality of wisdom."<br /><br />Thank you. I think I'll stay for awhile.Black Diasporahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08890792781361839105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-6121804386550197432009-09-27T07:39:56.336-04:002009-09-27T07:39:56.336-04:00Part iii
"We are all fallible human beings, ...Part iii<br /><br />"We are all fallible human beings, not Gods. Knowing that, it ought to be somewhat humbling to give up immature false pride and strive to help one another instead of sitting back thinking, "it's YOUR problem, not MINE." That kind of thinking is absurd."<br /><br />Absurd to whom? Why should you, would you, care who or what I am?<br /><br />I don't care who you are! You can be prideful or not, helpful or not, fallible or not, humble or not, and yes, racist or not.<br /><br />It's when you presume to tell me who or what <i>I</i> should be, that you rob me of self-determination. And I won't, can't, give that which is not yours to command.<br /><br />Look, I wish I could be all the things that would give you contentment, that would make me more like you, that would make me less a maverick and more like the herd, but I have a higher authority to which I must answer: <b><i>ME.</i></b><br /><br />I must also admit, I'm not willing to "step up" and call another's problem, my problem. <i>That</i> would be absurd: The height of absurdity.<br /><br />And you have misrepresented me. I've never said that I wouldn't assist another who asks, as long as they're earnest seekers.<br /><br />But I don't feel a moral, ethical, or conscienced obligation to do a damn thing.<br /><br />I won't seek out racists to convert. I won't seek out racists to dialog with. I won't seek out racists to sit across the table from and exchange experiences, pleasantries, or means whereby we may coexist in our piece of the world we call America.<br /><br />"All Americans-Black, White and Brown must step up to the plate to end racism together. Why? Because we are interdependent and interrelated like all of nature."<br /><br />That's a tall order. I had no part in starting racism, why should I be compelled to assist in the ending of it? Blacks weren't "together" with whites in the beginning of racism, why must we be "together" now, in some supposed effort to end it.<br /><br />If we're "interdependent and interrelated like all of nature," then why tinker with all that togetherness and oneness. Ending racism is not going to bring us closer together, than interdependence, and interrelatedness. <br /><br />I'm just not that fond of racists. <br /><br />If you desire such a task, such a goal, such a mission in life, have at it.<br /><br />I will not "step up to the plate to end racism together," separately, or any other fashion you may devise. I will not take the initiative to change anyone, nor will I turn down anyone who's sincerely seeking to divest themselves of the racial scourge we call racism.<br /><br />"Considering your claim to feel no pain, it makes perfect sense that you would boldly and unabashedly state that you 'don't have to do a damn thing' about racism." <br /><br />"Imho, you are coming from the place of a vacant heart."<br /><br />I <i>don't</i> have to do a damn thing about racism. It's not my problem. If you wish to make it your problem, be my guest, but don't invite me to follow your folly.<br /><br />And just so we understand each other, let me reiterate: I feel no pain. I'm happy just as I am, and I would change nothing in my life.<br /><br />And further, I'm not going to do a "damn" thing about racism. It's not my problem. If I'm asked by those whose problem it is, to assist them in overcoming, I will give my utmost effort. <br /><br />I've spent a while here chatting with you. I think you have a good heart, but your perception is a bit cloudy. And you're not the only one: There are many who see things as you see them. And that's a pity.<br /><br />But I don't fault you. I say it's a pity, not as a put down, for I have no desire to diminish, but to uplift. You're coming at this all wrong. And yet, I have no wish to make you wrong. <br /><br />You think you can change that which you didn't create. You think you can solve that which is not your problem. You can proffer answers, to be sure, but the solution is in the hands of the problem-maker--in the working out of the problem, given the answers.<br /><br />In that, you cannot participate.Black Diasporahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08890792781361839105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-57627517485462681352009-09-27T07:23:40.157-04:002009-09-27T07:23:40.157-04:00Part ii
I say this: We, the blacks of this nati...Part ii<br /> <br />I say this: We, the blacks of this nation, don't have to do a damn thing about racism. If blacks choose to do something about that, over which they have no control, so be it. It's their choice.<br /> <br />But for my part, I'm not so self-sacrificing. <br /> <br />And, I'm not in "pain," because I choose not to be in pain. Pain has never served me. And if it serves you, then have as big a go at it as you desire.<br /> <br />And for the record: I've probably experienced more racism than you'll ever know, and I'm still not in pain, won't be in pain now, or in the future.<br /> <br />Racism is not my sickness, nor my malady, and I refuse to suffer from an illness not my own. If that's your choice, you have my blessing to suffer as much, and as long, and as often, as you choose.<br /> <br />But don't ask me to.<br /> <br />"Either you have risen above us mortal human beings or you are in "profound" denial. ... I have concluded that you are human, and you are in denial despite painful evidence to the contrary."<br /> <br />You really believe that don't you?<br />It's really important for you to believe that, isn't it? You can't fathom a black like me: neither in denial or pain.<br /> <br />You really have to sum me up according to your own experiences, where blacks must be in pain, or be in denial. Your "evidence to the contrary," is of your own manufacturing. If it brings you a measure of satisfaction, contentment, or ease, embrace your "evidence to the contrary," wrap your soul in it.<br /><br />"The solution to racism is not a one-way street where Whites must do it all by themselves and come to you."<br /><br />Whites can do it anyway they choose, if they choose. I'm not asking for anything. Whites-- haven't you heard me--can choose to be racist, or not. <br /><br />I have no preference. I need no preference. Nor, do I have a need for whites, or, anyone else, to come to me. They have themselves, and that's all they need, and that's enough.<br /><br />"That is a childish and angry arrogant attitude that leads to 'no-where'."<br /><br />I'm not sure where you wish for me to go, or where you wish to lead me.<br /><br />Call my attitude what you wish. You say, "childish." Yes, I'm as innocent as a child. And I'm not a racist. You say, "arrogant," yeah, I confess. I have an abundance of self-worth. If you think I'm overbearing, so be it. I make no apolgies. I am who I am, and I embrace all of me.<br /><br />You say, lead to "no where." Again I have to agree. Just move the letters around a bit, let them now read "now here." <br /><br />I'm "now here," and that not a bad place to be. Because I'm "now here," I can't be said to be "no where."Black Diasporahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08890792781361839105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-540132798156707642009-09-27T07:15:00.438-04:002009-09-27T07:15:00.438-04:00Part i
@Anon: "From my experience as an Amer...Part i<br /><br />@Anon: "From my experience as an American, talking about race and racism IS difficult. It is a national problem that Americans and even the President want to avoid talking about. Those who do try, often have mild to acute angry meltdowns, as you did with grinder."<br /> <br />Again, my friend, you haven't read me very closely; you have resorted to platitudes rather than giving me a fair hearing. <br /> <br />But that's your choice.<br /> <br />It's interesting that you characterized my dialog with Grinder as an "angry meltdown." Again, you're at choice to see it as you choose, rightly or wrongly.<br /> <br />I'm afraid that you don't know all the players here, or you wouldn't have jumped to such a rash conclusion.<br /> <br />With Grinder, I made a choice: I wouldn't be his "whipping boy," as I believe I described it.<br /> <br />If you choose to rescue him, so be it. That, too, is your choice. What I have found over the years is that people react as they did the day before, and the day before that, when certain stimuli is present. That way they don't have to do much critical thinking.<br /> <br />I think that is your case.<br /> <br />I can't speak for the nation, but I have no problem talking about racism, and it has been my experience that many whites who post here are not reluctant either. <br /> <br />"What's with the "we" bit? YOU don't have to do a damn thing because YOU are not in pain. When you assume others think like you do, you set yourself up to be disappointed because not everyone will agree with you." <br /> <br />I wish I could accommodate you and say that I agree with your assessment of some perceived "pain," but I would be lying.<br /> <br />But it appears that you have a vested interested in making me wrong on the subject.<br /> <br />I'm not disappointed, and I don't ask others to agree with me. That, too, is there choice. I'm not diminished if they don't, nor am I elevated if they do.<br /> <br />I'm just not that ego-driven.Black Diasporahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08890792781361839105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-60127380815741113452009-09-26T23:59:44.224-04:002009-09-26T23:59:44.224-04:00"But Black Diaspora's words have to be se..."But Black Diaspora's words have to be seen as a rhetorical statement of defiance and anger. I don't take her denial of pain literally. You can't be angry without being in pain about something."<br /><br />Of course BD is angry and in pain. It is obvious. But it is possible for BD to not be aware of it. Human awareness varies from dull to bright.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-64726199563850775792009-09-26T22:33:07.532-04:002009-09-26T22:33:07.532-04:00@La Incognita
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"Imo, it is self-evide...@La Incognita<br /><br />cosign<br /><br /><i>"Imo, it is self-evident that Blacks and Whites have been in pain for centuries in our country because of racism."<br /><br />On that note, I have concluded this anony to be another dead horse.<b> Who started the pain, and what type of pain is there for white people because of racism? The pain of having to hear about it? The pain of having to finally do something to eradicate it? I am just curious about what pain you're talking about.</b></i><br /><br />By this logic, rapists are "hurt" by rapes they commit, murderers are hurt by murders they commit. . .wtf? <br /><br />I guess, if I really stretch, I could say that this "white" girl is hurt by racism because it sucks to be associated with racist oppressive misogynistic arrogant fools, but, still--that's not the fault of any Black person or Black people in general.<br /><br />What color did you say that horse was? Lolz--<br /><br />Word Verification: CowshetRace Traitoresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14255889194578513886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-88070277275230797132009-09-26T22:32:22.167-04:002009-09-26T22:32:22.167-04:00@BD "Painful for whom? I'm not in pain. W...<i>@BD "Painful for whom? I'm not in pain. We don't need to do a damn thing."<br /><br />What's with the "we" bit? YOU don't have to do a damn thing because YOU are not in pain. When you assume others think like you do, you set yourself up to be disappointed because not everyone will agree with you.<br /><br />Imo, it is self-evident that Blacks and Whites have been in pain for centuries in our country because of racism. (Except for you, of course).<br /><br />Throughout American history, NOTHING has been a more painful ordeal than racism. Apparently you have managed to avoid feeling any pain about it. Is that "why" grinder got under your skin, because you don't feel pain?<br /><br />Either you have risen above us mortal human beings or you are in "profound" denial. Judging from your reaction to grinder, I have concluded that you are human, and you are in denial despite painful evidence to the contrary.</i><br /><br />Of course BD is in pain over racism. Plus she's really pissed off at me, which of course comes as good news to La Idiot, who has regarded me as a white devil bastard from the start. Now L.I. sees a kindred spirit, and her heart is joyful.<br /><br />But Black Diaspora's words have to be seen as a rhetorical statement of defiance and anger. I don't take her denial of pain literally. You can't be angry without being in pain about <i>something</i>.grinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884922107235885961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-46535226714021947222009-09-26T22:19:30.412-04:002009-09-26T22:19:30.412-04:00"Those who do try, often have mild to acute a...<i>"Those who do try, often have mild to acute angry meltdowns, as you did with grinder.</i>"<br /><br />I just knew the "angry" and hysterical "meltdown" accusation was coming.<br /><br /><i>"Imo, it is self-evident that Blacks and Whites have been in pain for centuries in our country because of racism.</i>"<br /><br />On that note, I have concluded this anony to be another dead horse. Who started the pain, and what type of pain is there for white people because of racism? The pain of having to hear about it? The pain of having to finally do something to eradicate it? I am just curious about what pain you're talking about.<br /><br />RT said to BD: "<i>"Beautifully said. All of your post was reasoned and measured, but the eloquence of these few words especially resonated with me.</i>"<br /><br />I agree, and I am learning so much from this discussion. BD, this was excellent, It's baffling how the anony actually thinks he/she has you pegged. It adds to the meaning for pulling straws. You have been nothing but patient and fair towards grinder. I just love it when you come around to share your high quality of wisdom.La♥audiobookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00113372034561824170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-86845520128883731942009-09-26T20:51:20.466-04:002009-09-26T20:51:20.466-04:00@Black Diaspora
Ending racism, therefore, is the ...@Black Diaspora<br /><br /><i>Ending racism, therefore, is the sole responsibility of the racist, not the victim of racism.<br /><br />To shift that burden to me, as though I'm equally burdened to assist in its demise, is to misrepresent the problem, the solution, and my historical role in all of it.</i><br /><br />Beautifully said. All of your post was reasoned and measured, but the eloquence of these few words especially resonated with me.<br /><br /><i>Either you have risen above us mortal human beings or you are in "profound" denial.</i><br /><br />Ima go with "risen above us mortal human beings." In my correspondence with you, and in reading your thoughtful, steadfast, reasoned opinions, I've constantly been educated and often inspired by your clear explanations and moral high ground---even when what you have to say may make me, as a "white" person, wince. It's what I need to hear, though. I'm very thankful for your voice.Race Traitoresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14255889194578513886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-75226552028736305342009-09-26T20:22:40.087-04:002009-09-26T20:22:40.087-04:00BD "I'm not sure which Americans you'...BD "I'm not sure which Americans you're talking about. Race is discussed here often, and both sides, white and black, weigh in."<br /><br />I recognize that you do not know which Americans I am talking about. There is no way for you to know where I am coming from and I certainly don't know where you are coming from. From my experience as an American, talking about race and racism IS difficult. It is a national problem that Americans and even the President want to avoid talking about. Those who do try, often have mild to acute angry meltdowns, as you did with grinder.<br /><br />@BD "Painful for whom? I'm not in pain. We don't need to do a damn thing."<br /><br />What's with the "we" bit? YOU don't have to do a damn thing because YOU are not in pain. When you assume others think like you do, you set yourself up to be disappointed because not everyone will agree with you. <br /><br />Imo, it is self-evident that Blacks and Whites have been in pain for centuries in our country because of racism. (Except for you, of course). <br /><br />Throughout American history, NOTHING has been a more painful ordeal than racism. Apparently you have managed to avoid feeling any pain about it. Is that "why" grinder got under your skin, because you don't feel pain? <br /><br />Either you have risen above us mortal human beings or you are in "profound" denial. Judging from your reaction to grinder, I have concluded that you are human, and you are in denial despite painful evidence to the contrary. <br /><br />The solution to racism is not a one-way street where Whites must do it all by themselves and come to you. That is a childish and angry arrogant attitude that leads to 'no-where'. We are all fallible human beings, not Gods. Knowing that, it ought to be somewhat humbling to give up immature false pride and strive to help one another instead of sitting back thinking, "it's YOUR problem, not MINE." That kind of thinking is absurd. <br /><br />All Americans-Black, White and Brown must step up to the plate to end racism together. Why? Because we are interdependent and interrelated like all of nature. <br /><br />Considering your claim to feel no pain, it makes perfect sense that you would boldly and unabashedly state that you 'don't have to do a damn thing' about racism. <br /><br />Imho, you are coming from the place of a vacant heart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com