tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post2284943194470867045..comments2024-03-28T07:46:36.254-04:00Comments on field negro: Stereotypes, jigging, and coons.field negrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comBlogger192125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-81159500403345687122014-04-20T12:01:30.378-04:002014-04-20T12:01:30.378-04:00Stay tuned -- www.coonwatch.com - Launch date 5/1/...Stay tuned -- www.coonwatch.com - Launch date 5/1/2014.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09241151612999229277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-81066666749579340482013-01-10T05:42:07.216-05:002013-01-10T05:42:07.216-05:00Your name is stereotypical !Your name is stereotypical !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-76829629942952138762009-08-16T15:58:38.660-04:002009-08-16T15:58:38.660-04:00grinder:
Truth is stranger than fiction. Reality...grinder:<br /><br /><br />Truth is stranger than fiction. Reality is crueler than any film script. Batman is a heroic fantasy. But, politicos far more hellish than The Joker are real indeed!!!<br /><br /><br />Here is a cruel joke that is a ruthless reality: EVERY antic by George W. Bush that was so vehemently opposed by political rebels is now being cowardly accepted when duplicated and escalated by the blackish President Barack Obama/GWB 2.0!!!<br /><br /><br />Kudos to conscious rebels nationwide who dare to protest Obama’s incessant and increasingly fatal lies, war games, and financial genocides!!! They are plastering posters of Obama as The Joker while Obama is morbidly regentrifying our entire country as never before.<br /><br /><br />The elitists and their war mongering capitalist peers are playing global jokes with toxic punch lines that are swiftly decimating the middle class and destroying the poor each day. The fallout of Obama’s political jokes will slay the masses for decades.<br /><br /><br />Hypocritical Obama Nazis dare to protest this free speech by rebels who bravely see the real monstrous face of Obama, beneath his mythically heroic blackish mask. When blind fools awake, they will see that Obama is indeed a legendary joker politico. They will see that Bush joked us when he cloned Obama as a shady puppet to secure his third stolen and illegal term as president. And, they will find that we are all the doomed butts of these two political monsters’ dual global jokes.<br /><br /><br />See more on Obama as The Joker:<br /><br /><br />http://www.infowars.com/obama-as-joker-explained/<br /><br /><br />http://www.infowars.com/the-obama-opiate-crisis-deepens-crowds-cheer/<br /><br /><br />http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-hemet-foreclosure-evictions,0,6173635.story<br /><br /><br />http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090805/bs_nm/us_usa_housing_deutschebank<br /><br /><br />http://www.eurweb.com/printable.cfm?id=55133<br /><br /><br />http://thewiddershins.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/obamabush.jpg<br /><br /><br />http://www.sfbayview.com/2009/i%e2%80%99m-staying/<br /><br /><br />http://www.poormagazine.org/index.cfm?L1=news&story=2291&pg=1<br /><br /><br />http://www.poormagazine.org/index.cfm?L1=news&story=2302&pg=1<br /><br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuWB9Nhoypw<br /><br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXCssX_CQbw<br /><br /><br /><br />See Obama’s mentor as his joker clone here:<br /><br /><br />http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2008/07/bush-as-joker.htmlalicia bankshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15921804031029586951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-64009720104733028032009-08-16T15:55:15.199-04:002009-08-16T15:55:15.199-04:00grinder:
obama ran as anti-war
and he has escalat...grinder:<br /><br />obama ran as anti-war<br />and he has escalated wars<br /><br />he ran as anti-rich<br />yet he has ONLY<br />bilked the poor of trillions to give to ceos who have used it to give bonuses etc<br /><br />he promised to save homes<br />he has saved none<br />he has ONLY given bankers trillions ...bankers that are not lending and stashing their own coffers with said trillions<br /><br />he promised specific changes to gays in the military and gay wedded duos...he has bailed on all of it...then dared to pal around with more and worse rabid gaybashers than gwb did...<br /><br />he promised to integrate the real power players by race and gender in dc...instead used very few as window dressing while he stuffed his inner circle with neocons from gwb's regime/wall st etc...<br /><br />see much much much more at OUTLOOK<br />http://aliciabanks.blogspot.com<br /><br />http://www.alternet.org/politics/137011/got_a_hopeover_a_dictionary_for_disheartened_obama_fans/<br /><br />http://advocate.com/issue_story_ektid102115.aspalicia bankshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15921804031029586951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-47558866559089233892009-08-16T15:48:01.625-04:002009-08-16T15:48:01.625-04:00grinder:
that was a clear and complete sentence r...grinder:<br /><br />that was a clear and complete sentence regarding obama's sinister and selective silences on REAL racism and public executions by police...as opposed to his fiasco re his euro pal gates<br /><br />what was missed???alicia bankshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15921804031029586951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-8171957228512206882009-08-16T15:22:04.142-04:002009-08-16T15:22:04.142-04:00p.s.: By comparison to a tidal wave of lame-ass si...p.s.: By comparison to a tidal wave of lame-ass sitcoms with stock white characters, I'd say "House of Payne" is a little bit better than most. At least the episode I saw had some real content underneath the clowning, which is more than you can say for "Seinfeld" or "Frazier."TrueBluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03247629724349664650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-57287665541063684322009-08-16T15:20:05.039-04:002009-08-16T15:20:05.039-04:00By the way, to those who might still be looking at...By the way, to those who might still be looking at this thread, I made a point of watching a Tyler Perry show ("House of Payne") last night. I can understand why some black people wouldn't like it, but it didn't excite any racist impulses in me.<br /><br />There were clown characters in it, which is what comedy is about. But there was a serious plot too. All in all, I thought it was okay. Minstreling was about complete clowning. There was nothing at all human about minstrels. Tyler Perry's stuff did not strike me that way. But I'll watch more, and see what I continue to think.TrueBluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03247629724349664650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-72339026838979709792009-08-15T12:58:42.077-04:002009-08-15T12:58:42.077-04:00his blackest political actions to date have been r...<i>his blackest political actions to date have been righteously bashing deadbeat black dads and defending the euro bill gates while blatantly ignoring sean bell and oscar grant etc ...these sporadic black moments are grossly insufficient and racist betrayals to me</i><br /><br />You're talking in shorthand here. Could you do the long division for me? Which is to say that I don't have any idea what you're talking about. Please explain.TrueBluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03247629724349664650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-21080036576779942762009-08-15T12:57:01.529-04:002009-08-15T12:57:01.529-04:00as he has only escalated the white racist gwb'...<i>as he has only escalated the white racist gwb's political agendas, he is politically white to me</i><br /><br />Hey, I'd like Obama to be more to the left too, but I think it's a real stretch to accuse him of escalating Bush's agenda.TrueBluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03247629724349664650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-74262348862512896742009-08-15T00:11:10.026-04:002009-08-15T00:11:10.026-04:00grinder:
ditto
i define race as both a mental st...grinder:<br /><br />ditto<br /><br />i define race as both a mental state and social construct<br /><br />clearly obama is socially black<br /><br />but as he has only escalated the white racist gwb's political agendas, he is politically white to me<br /><br />his blackest political actions to date have been righteously bashing deadbeat black dads and defending the euro bill gates while blatantly ignoring sean bell and oscar grant etc ...these sporadic black moments are grossly insufficient and racist betrayals to mealicia bankshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15921804031029586951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-3468550327934948282009-08-14T03:20:03.611-04:002009-08-14T03:20:03.611-04:00this is why i will always regard obama as bi-racia...<i>this is why i will always regard obama as bi-racial, not black</i><br /><br />Race is as much culturally defined as anything. After all, the entire human population of the earth is likely descended from 3,000 East Africans who survived the after effects of a huge volcano that exploded in present-day Indonesia 75,000 years ago. <br /><br />We've only had 3,750 generations as a species. Not really all that much history, in the larger scheme of things. Race is, in my opinion, a very shaky biological idea. To me, it's far more a matter of culture.<br /><br />Is Obama black, biracial, or white? I didn't read his first book, but I understand this was a big theme of it. He felt like an outsider no matter where he was.<br /><br />From my standpoint he's black. From your standpoint he's not black. Maybe this says more about me and more about you than it does about him.TrueBluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03247629724349664650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-36601168629740351272009-08-13T23:16:03.844-04:002009-08-13T23:16:03.844-04:00grinder:
ok
i missed your point
please excuse m...grinder:<br /><br />ok<br /><br />i missed your point<br /><br />please excuse my error<br /><br />this is why i will always regard obama as bi-racial, not black<br /><br />his solo white mother has earned her eternal inclusion in his reverence<br /><br />peace<br />abalicia bankshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15921804031029586951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-81376475694681470812009-08-13T23:01:18.136-04:002009-08-13T23:01:18.136-04:00grinder:
obama's white mother raised obama so...<i>grinder:<br /><br />obama's white mother raised obama solo...<br /><br />how is that a positive reflection of his absent internationally philandering polygamist black dad?</i><br /><br />You have missed my point. Go back and read what I wrote. Exactly where did I ever defend Obama's father? Nowhere that I can see.<br /><br />What I did was take Anon 5:29 to task for commenting exclusively on Obama's father without drawing the contrast between the ne'er-do-well father and the do-very-well son, and to do so in such a way that makes clecar Anon 5:29's racism.TrueBluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03247629724349664650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-89467399838503359442009-08-13T20:30:17.991-04:002009-08-13T20:30:17.991-04:00Vérité Parlant is Nordette Adams: "'Tyler...Vérité Parlant is Nordette Adams: "'Tyler Perry's work reflect the class divide in the black community more than anything else.'"<br /><br />You're an excellent writer and I agree with most of what you've said, and I hope and pray that what we're seeing is nothing more than "class divide," and not a willingness, and need, to capitulate to the norms of the larger white society.<br /><br />I'm just not that convinced that we've moved beyond the pathology of race sufficiently to set our own standards of propriety without, in measures small and large, acquiescing to external pressures to conform.<br /><br />That's why I really like your following statement:<br /><br />"We will truly be free when we are allowed to be as colorful, bodacious, insane, brilliant, ignorant, reserved, angry, dignified, raunchy, sexy or dowdy as anyone else in America and any criticism is based on behavior not on our ability or inability to live up or down to one expectation."<br /><br />I hope that you'll continue to post here. It's good to hear a thoughtful voice--and there are others--among all the useless chatter.One Hand Clappingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-61421576622237625382009-08-13T18:29:18.111-04:002009-08-13T18:29:18.111-04:00Excellent response, Grinder, to commentary from &q...Excellent response, Grinder, to commentary from "anonymous," which roils with racist rage and anecdotal references to the vice of black folk as though whites have no sins. His/her commentary reflects the faulty logic of myopic vision and an insulated life. Furthermore, the poster's comments reveal ignorance of <a href="http://www.authorsden.com/visit/viewpoetry.asp?AuthorID=21715&id=140777" rel="nofollow">Africa's colonial history</a> or willful dismissiveness, and I might add, blindness to the gist of many of the comments on this post declaring black people are not monolithic. <br /><br />In reference to another response to your comment, while I certainly give credit to Obama's mother and how she lived her life, instilling her son with concern for the poor and outcast, the person peddling racist commentary which castigates the entire black community seems to believe that committing crimes or being a bad father is somehow inherent in black people; therefore, the commenter proposes nature is at fault rather than nurture, making how any black person was raised irrelevant. Indeed, anonymous might argue, if pressed, that it is Obama's "white" blood that made him the man he is today.<br /><br />But should anyone like to consider black fathers and persist with anecdotal musing, then let's not exclude Michelle Obama's ordinary black daddy, a hard worker who did not abandon his family. <br /><br />As is often the way of the racist, abusers see only what they wish to see, whatever flaws they feel <a href="http://writingjunkie.net/youknowwhy.html" rel="nofollow">justify their own abuser instincts</a> and the social status quo that sustains them.<br /><br />Really, if I'd stick to anecdotes and personal observation using examples like George W. Bush, tales from trailer parks, and the followers of Rush Limbaugh, I could make a good case for ... well, anything but brilliance.Vérité Parlant https://www.blogger.com/profile/09033679321805951686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-22797513145719027702009-08-13T16:04:09.446-04:002009-08-13T16:04:09.446-04:00grinder:
obama's white mother raised obama so...grinder:<br /><br />obama's white mother raised obama solo...<br /><br />how is that a positive reflection of his absent internationally philandering polygamist black dad?alicia bankshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15921804031029586951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-72304461997376838812009-08-13T15:33:49.691-04:002009-08-13T15:33:49.691-04:00One good example is the Obama's father reprodu...<i>One good example is the Obama's father reproduced like a rabbit, but unlike a rabbit never took care of his young. When black males do this the excuse of slavery is used to explain this behavior, with lack of education and poverty as secondary excuses. He was no decendent of slavery, was an Ivy League graduate, and NOT poor. More importantly, if you look at the reaction from people in Kenya very few seemed to think there was anything weird or shameful about a man who had 7 children with 4 different woman and didn't act as a father to them. Sorry, but in most of the world people would think this was pathetic. Kenyans seemed to think this was normal.</i><br /><br />Funny that you should talk about Obama's father without noting the life his son has led. Unlike the Republican he beat, Barack Obama was married once, and has a beautiful and obviously happy family. I bet that really stings your racist ass, doesn't it?TrueBluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03247629724349664650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-32943902917360837242009-08-13T05:29:49.778-04:002009-08-13T05:29:49.778-04:00"It's impossible to be descendants of sla..."It's impossible to be descendants of slaves, Jim Crow, and the continued target of racism to NOT be damaged. Racism alone has attacked our emotionnal well-being and human dignity."<br /><br />You reak of self-pity. There are a lot of people who have suffered as much as African Americans- yet I see African Americans as being the least compassionate when it comes to other minorities. <br />More importantly the behaviors that black folks try and blame as steming from slavery and racism (such as crime and absent fathers) can be found in places slavery never happened. It can also be found amoung Africans living in non-western/non-european countries. <br />If it was simply slavery and the white man to blame these things would be absent where the white man and slavery is absent- but it's not.<br />One good example is the Obama's father reproduced like a rabbit, but unlike a rabbit never took care of his young. When black males do this the excuse of slavery is used to explain this behavior, with lack of education and poverty as secondary excuses. He was no decendent of slavery, was an Ivy League graduate, and NOT poor. More importantly, if you look at the reaction from people in Kenya very few seemed to think there was anything weird or shameful about a man who had 7 children with 4 different woman and didn't act as a father to them. Sorry, but in most of the world people would think this was pathetic. Kenyans seemed to think this was normal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-58964537289248056492009-08-12T12:26:04.117-04:002009-08-12T12:26:04.117-04:00VP, apparently you do not have a definition of wha...VP, apparently you do not have a definition of what cooning is:<br /><br />"...Modern day coons are blacks who play stereotypical roles and black entertainers that promote ignorance.Cooning is someone is acting like a 'coon'." <br /><br />Tyler movies fits that bill. His characters might be colorful, but they are colorful coons promoting ignorance, no education, and stupidity. I don't think Perry will grow at all. That's like expecting Michael Steele or Alan Keyes to completely transform themselves by same behaviors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-57385187103508284532009-08-11T10:24:43.817-04:002009-08-11T10:24:43.817-04:00I prefer Tyler Perry's movies over that tired ...I prefer Tyler Perry's movies over that tired 'Wire" bullshit of urban decay..<br /><br />Reed was right about Simon..Plane Ideas https://www.blogger.com/profile/13838821721942426785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-74077705901246882332009-08-10T20:43:52.027-04:002009-08-10T20:43:52.027-04:00Tyler is an untrained writer doing what writers do...Tyler is an untrained writer doing what writers do. He's writing what he knows. He grew up in the 7th Ward of New Orleans. I did too, but I didn't have some of his more colorful characters in my life. So, even two black people from the same part of the same city can be very different.<br /><br />As Perry's experience diversify so will his work. If it doesn't, then he cease to attain a higher level of success as an artist, but he may maintain his base until they get tired of repeats. Right now he writes very broad comedy and very broad drama. Neither medium is known for subtlety and grace.<br /><br />If I had to critique him as a creative writer, I'd give him a B- because he goes for the obvious and melodrama. But I'd have to say people flock to his work because most people, black or why, like the obvious and melodrama, and most people still want a message. He gives a clear moral message in most of his work. Remember, he did start by appealing to a black, church-going crowd and that is still his primary audience. <br /><br />Black people moved him to where he is. I think issues with Tyler Perry's work reflect the class divide in the black community more than anything else. It's really the same argument that crops up with why Urban Lit does better than Literary Fiction, why Hip Hop does better than Classical and Jazz music. And it's not an argument exclusive to the black community we just feel it more because more eyes are on us, expecting us to be Super Negroes. <br /><br />We will truly be free when we are allowed to be as colorful, bodacious, insane, brilliant, ignorant, reserved, angry, dignified, raunchy, sexy or dowdy as anyone else in America and any criticism is based on behavior not on our ability or inability to live up or down to one expectation. It would be nice if we each aspired to be our best noble self, but most of us just want to make a living.<br /><br />N.Vérité Parlant https://www.blogger.com/profile/09033679321805951686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-5418625621433082102009-08-10T16:13:03.623-04:002009-08-10T16:13:03.623-04:00O-man if you are listening here be the simple solu...<i>O-man if you are listening here be the simple solution - nationalise Aetna, Blue Cross, Kaiser, PacificCare, HealthNet, etc. and make it mandatory that all health care professional graduating and licensed to practice will be government salaried employees for a period of five years renewable upon review of their previous practice dossier. VIOLA!</i><br /><br />Viola? I prefer the cello, myself.TrueBluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03247629724349664650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-89877268308739109342009-08-10T03:43:36.896-04:002009-08-10T03:43:36.896-04:00Anonymous said...
@bugst: "That's funny,...Anonymous said... <br />@bugst: "That's funny, Anon, I understood him perfectly."<br /><br />Good for you bugst, but I didn't. <br /><br />@Field, thank you. Now I understand you perfectly.<br /><br />I know anon: I was just poking a little fun at you. I mean: I was having a little fun at your expense.<br /><br />That was crude.bugstnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-87856288975034516342009-08-09T23:35:50.789-04:002009-08-09T23:35:50.789-04:00To Field-- Minor correction to this line -"Bl...To Field-- Minor correction to this line -"Black (specifically for this post - I’m referring to Americans) folk are very diverse - like any other race." i think you should be careful and drill this down further since there are 3 bodies of land in the Americas and all have an African presence. In other words, black folks in the northern portion and specifically those within the confines of the states un-united are NOT the only folks who can refer to themselves as "Black Americans". Oscar Peterson could use the descriptive as much as Pele, Ms. Susanna Baca or Walter Rodney. <br /><br />Second, nobody should really care about Tyler Perry "cooning" or Bill Cosby doing the same thang to achieve some minor form of economic stability. It just means these folks like tenured professors or [clears throats, doctors and lawyers] have brought into the status quo systems of eurocentric economic measurement and feel compelled to participate within them rather than without.<br /><br />you have to laugh at the amount of energy expended in the healthcare for all debate [Krackers on one side and Coons on the other] to realise that neither group is interested in the people per say as much as political posturing. if cuba, canada, france and uk can do it, why is there a problem doing it here? how do you expect to have economic growth and development if you dont have human capital in excellent health? the average worker [no matter whether white or blue collar] has been duped by their unions, government and politicians all dude to health maintenance organisations and the like.<br /><br />O-man if you are listening here be the simple solution - nationalise Aetna, Blue Cross, Kaiser, PacificCare, HealthNet, etc. and make it mandatory that all health care professional graduating and licensed to practice will be government salaried employees for a period of five years renewable upon review of their previous practice dossier. VIOLA!beale street is talkinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-44546441701724007052009-08-09T23:01:33.007-04:002009-08-09T23:01:33.007-04:00@bugst: "That's funny, Anon, I understood...@bugst: "That's funny, Anon, I understood him perfectly."<br /><br />Good for you bugst, but I didn't. <br /><br /><br />@Field, thank you. Now I understand you perfectly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com