tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post7367859808148387048..comments2024-03-28T21:27:14.626-04:00Comments on field negro: Dog days for Mike.field negrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-54389044836172556152007-07-29T20:12:00.000-04:002007-07-29T20:12:00.000-04:00I find all of the recent intelligent discourse con...I find all of the recent intelligent discourse concerning the state of Vick's affairs and state of race in America quite amusing. You guys have made great points on both sides of the coin...<BR/>-Lets forget about using well reasoned agruments etc. save it for the classroom...hey we all have been to college. Lets just simply face the facts...<BR/>- everyday that I hear the "outrage" that white America has concerning this case, makes me want to puke... I do believe that dogfighting is wrong and if found guilty, those involved should be punished..but give me freaking break! People are saying that Vick should burn in hell..? They should kill him... Put him in jail for 10-20 years..? You people make me sick! The fact remains that white society as a whole..hates black people! I don't see mass protests by whites when those policemen in NY gunned down those young men during his wedding night... Where was the outrage when poor blacks and whites starved to death and drowned in New Orleans during Katrina.(by the way the place is still a mess.. Many don't have homes and there' 1000's of trailers not being used. Over 3000 of our children have died in Iraq to save a people who dont even want democracy.(next time take a look at all of the blacks that have died...and sacraficed their life for this racist country..not to mention whites as well who should be honored! You are upset about him "murdering" and allowing dogs to be "raped"..Let's all be honest if black people really knew what whites said about us behind closed doors it would make us cringe!I dont believe any of guys have the guts to tell the truth..What are you really saying? The truth is,blacks are treated less humanely than dogs. So go ahead and pat yourself on the back you spent millions of taxpayers dollars to prosecute one dogfighting case, and ignored many other cases of child neglect,abuse etc.. no benefits for Iraq war veterans. Speaking of animal abuse, what about Oscar de La hoya,doesnt he cock fight..I'm from Va and what about all those idiots with deer heads over the fire place??. These same idiots kill more deer than allowed.They go on trips to hunt bears. What about innocent untill proven guilty? I guess that really doesn't apply to people of color. I dont see any outrage when statistics have shown that blacks get many years more that whites for committing the same offenses with the same type of record.. blacks get paid less with same level of education and.. experience than there counterparts...Yeah you are right lets not talk about this..let's crucify some poor clown for dogfighting..when we all stand before God is he going to ask us how many whales did we save..or what did we do for our fellow man..yeah I do like to ramble!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-71334374132863781492007-07-26T12:50:00.000-04:002007-07-26T12:50:00.000-04:00I just saw a preview of a report on dogfighting th...I just saw a preview of a report on dogfighting that will be on tonight's Paula Zahn show. The report includes undercover video footage. Of course, the perpetrators were black.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-86691344510415815222007-07-22T23:36:00.000-04:002007-07-22T23:36:00.000-04:00Late on this one, but fine the brother and move on...Late on this one, but fine the brother and move on. He was dumb to get caught in this predicament, but I bet he's not dumb enough to NOT hire a good ass lawyer.Rich Fitzgeraldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02402320643799892517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-82654853504799100132007-07-22T18:10:00.000-04:002007-07-22T18:10:00.000-04:00Well, as an omnivore who finds himself disgusted b...Well, as an omnivore who finds himself disgusted by the reports of Vick's alleged dogfighting ring, I'll consider myself chastened. I know I've always been a bit bemused by the compassion meat-eating people feel for race horses, for example.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, I'd like to think that the animals raised for food are slaughtered humanely (though I know that sometimes they are not), and I think that savagery like what has been described in regards to dogfighting needs to be punished.Jonathan Pottshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18433924194960127561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-3305730332240509562007-07-21T00:26:00.000-04:002007-07-21T00:26:00.000-04:00West Coast,Please explain "empirical data" on fema...West Coast,<BR/>Please explain "empirical data" on females being more cruel vs. real data. If "The Diary of Anne Frank" can get published and corrupted depending on what "state leader" is doing it, then geez.<BR/><BR/><BR/>It is a "mans world" where the males make the "rules" and decide who and what is "promoted" vis a vis "marketing".<BR/><BR/>The common citizen vs. the "marketing executive" does not stand a chance. Now they have the Web as another "tool" to advance their "cause" of gender superiority.<BR/><BR/>Any woman I have ever talked to falls on one side or the other - predator or prey. They fight each other and with their "significant other". Sexuality aside; I have met some pretty scary females. Some males are set-up to become a "victim", and an older, wiser female can see it coming - "a bitch can always recognize another bitch - positive or negative". We just typically, let you go through the b.s. because you want to put some spin on it; then later, if you didnt meet/hook up with a "black widow" ask, "How did you know?"<BR/><BR/>CassandraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-88101898840851609332007-07-20T21:56:00.000-04:002007-07-20T21:56:00.000-04:00Field, a lurker here. Of the top 25 petitions on ...Field, a lurker here. Of the top 25 petitions on PetitionOnline.com today, <BR/><BR/>#9 was "demand the conviction and MAXIMUM punishment of Michael Vick, the Quarter back of the Falcons football team for CRUELTY TO ANIMALS." <BR/><BR/>#12 was "Jena Six".<BR/><BR/>Though if you look at the huge disparity in news coverage, I say spot #12 is a real credit to the people who followed up and signed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-44349770064452257362007-07-20T19:52:00.000-04:002007-07-20T19:52:00.000-04:00Some evidence about females being more cruel. Not...Some evidence about females being more cruel. Not empircal, but real data. Thanks. <BR/><BR/>Oh, and OJ did it. The DNA matched on most markers, it was just mishandled enough to raise reasonable doubt for the jury. "Not guilty" doesn't mean you are "innocent."<BR/><BR/>I hope Mr. Vick is put under the jail. Only scumbags stage animal fights.west coast storyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16833809632143106334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-24682675992953385172007-07-20T19:09:00.000-04:002007-07-20T19:09:00.000-04:00by the way, the majority of "white people" in the ...by the way, the majority of "white people" in the history of the world have not kept animals as pets; animals worked on farms. The "pet" phenomenon is a relatively recent by-product of the consumer society.Anne Rettenberg LCSWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08924529514196589677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-41393492796367365632007-07-20T18:14:00.000-04:002007-07-20T18:14:00.000-04:00Geez,I love your blogs FN. And I guess other peopl...Geez,<BR/>I love your blogs FN. And I guess other people do also, as they come on here and get mighty testy about drivel and "race".<BR/><BR/>I am a dog lover, not too concerned with cats as they are stand-offish with their attitude, IMO. But this over-simplication of "species" protection and criminal enterprises which ARE documented is interesting, in light of the stats on Killadelphia climbing.<BR/><BR/>At any rate, a "criminal profile" of a serial killer IS their treatment of animals, whether a pet or a stray. Jeffrey Dahmer is a recent example, if one would read his childhood history. He was not into the "criminal profiteering" aspect of dog-fighting or cock-fighting.<BR/><BR/>Then you have the "Una-Bomber" who was turned in by his own brother. Both raised in the same house, by the same parents; one "good" the other "crazy as road liz-zard". But he had to be stopped - period.<BR/><BR/>This "anti-snitch" thing is what bothers me personally. And the article about the 2 females that burned the kitten is equally disturbing, as females are historically much crueler than males. Which may explain why they are not allowed to be a "leader" in most groups, organizations or even some states. Males are afraid of some gender "payback" which never comes.<BR/><BR/>As for the "media coverage", it was never voted on (by me anyway) to not include the "race" in news storys. Nor was I consulted on referring to blacks as African Americans. But I found it amusing when my brother said: "So what are we supposed to call African immigrants? African-African Americans?" It is impossible to cover all the stories/events without offending someone for something anyway, so they usually generate viewership by using violence, sex, or "race".<BR/><BR/>BTW, I disagree; OJ did not kill his ex, which is why he went on that 30mph attempt to "escape", and her sister went from really blonde to "bottle black" overnight. And "no"; I was not in California at the time.<BR/><BR/>CassandraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-919536338543258772007-07-20T16:49:00.000-04:002007-07-20T16:49:00.000-04:00Good quote from prometheus6:"Pseudo Problems In Af...Good quote from prometheus6:<BR/><BR/>"Pseudo Problems In African American Life"<BR/>Posted July 19th, 2007 by ptcruiser <BR/><BR/>The program I was watching on the Discover Channel ended and I began channel surfing and came across Bill O'Reilly who I never watch at all. I broke my rule because I recognized that Bill the Pontificator's guest was the Kansas City pundit, Br. Jason Whitlock. O'Reilly and Whitlock were discussing - surprise - Michael Vick and the meaning of his legal troubles etc. I started to continue my journey in television land when Whitlock cut loose with a fatuous assertion that actually startled me.<BR/><BR/>Whitlock asserted that the legal troubles of Michael Vick and "Pac Man" Jones are clear signs that African Americans need to address what hip-hop culture is doing to our community. Huh? Can somebody, somewhere tell me why Michael Vick's indictment on charges related to dog-fighting and "Pac Man" Jones' apparent proclivity for frequenting strip clubs and getting into beefs with the cops are problems that we, the African American community, need to address? When did Vick's and Jones' troubles become synonymous with either hip-hop culture or the black community?<BR/><BR/>The Vick-Jones dustup represents simply another opportunity for folks like Whitlock to indict the black community at large when the overwhelming percentage of black people in this country are not involved in dogfighting or hanging out at strip clubs. If Michael Vick is found guilty on the charges his behavior cannot even be remotely attributed to hip-hop culture. And it certainly is not a problem that belongs to black folks at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-86942588072513019102007-07-20T16:36:00.000-04:002007-07-20T16:36:00.000-04:00maxjulian: I wrote the same thing about boxing (R...maxjulian: I wrote the same thing about boxing (RE your punishing game comment) then deleted it in my earlier post.<BR/><BR/>This man is getting kicked in the ass because he is a celebrity. Remember when a past president lifted up his dog by the ears? The country went c-razy! A white man threw a dog into freeway traffic here some years ago and the whole frigging Bay Area went apeshit over it. All over talk radio, all in the news. <BR/><BR/>I'm really tired of people trying to make us out to be professional victims. The man (the black athlete who did this) is pond scum. Dog fighting is a criminal enterprise. Period. It is not conducted by people who are in the "mainstream." It is often linked to drugs and other organized crime. It's certainly very popular with gangsters all over this country. Dog fighting is a big deal because when those dogs get loose, they go after people. <BR/><BR/>Right now, there is a story about two teen aged girls who lit a kitten on fire and laughed while the cat burned. The cat is alive and now people are debating whether or not it's right for the cat to get so much expensive vet care. Lost from the defenders is what a reprehensible thing these girls did. Don't know what color they are but if they are black, I'm sure someone will want them to be the new poster children for black victimization. It's hard for some of us to come to terms with the idea that there are some very bad people in the world and some of them happen to be black. <BR/><BR/>Finally, they are links between animal torture and serial killing. It's suppose to be one of several indicators. I did a quick google and there seems to be some evidence to support this. I'd love to know if this athlete beats his partners.west coast storyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16833809632143106334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-20285391581054138162007-07-20T16:29:00.000-04:002007-07-20T16:29:00.000-04:00Max:Kudos to your comments regarding the violence ...Max:<BR/><BR/>Kudos to your comments regarding the violence in football. Remember Jack Tatum, the Oakland Raider that put the "hit" on New England Patriot Darryl Stingley?<BR/><BR/>While the hit was defended as being "clean", I can truthfully say that Jack Tatum has never recovered from committing that hit that left Stigley in a wheelchair until his death. Even though Stingley himself defended Tatum's hit - Jack Tatum has lost that "something".<BR/><BR/>He's a functioning human being, but is a shadow of his former self as a man, so when you say "million-dollar slave" and combine it with the fact that retired NFL players are on welfare because their pensions are paying at the rate they would have earned when they retired in the 70s and 80s (thank you House Negro Gene Upshaw), they were just paid and glorified slaves, period.<BR/><BR/>And for the record, if Vick were white, maybe the PETA folks would have still blown up, but it would have been excused by everyone else - or if someone said he need to be punished, a slap on the wrist fine like Paris Hilton got.<BR/><BR/>However, I still remember a guy out in California who's currently doing three years in the state pen for engaging in "road rage", tossing out a driver's fluffy and adorable bison-frise into rush hour traffic on Highway 101 where it was killed instantly.<BR/><BR/>They damned near put an "Amber Alert" on his ass and he got caught within 72 hours. Go figure.The Christian Progressive Liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04445662404937684518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-1767632800053492982007-07-20T14:52:00.000-04:002007-07-20T14:52:00.000-04:00Another irony about this dogfighting issue is the ...Another irony about this dogfighting issue is the "barbarity" of football itself. <BR/><BR/>Its okay for men to crash into each other at high velocity, so much so that many become physically and mentally incapacitated (multiple concussions, dementia, paralysis, etc.) in their twenties or thirties. What does ESPN replay over and over again but the most violent "hits" of the day. <BR/><BR/>We're surprised when those lauded for being violent, playing this super physical, "punishing" game, get physical with their spouses or animals. How shocking?! But this is okay, partly because, most of the players are, what?!<BR/><BR/>"Million dollar slaves."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-66026500049195410632007-07-20T13:59:00.000-04:002007-07-20T13:59:00.000-04:00CC - I think it's possible to be wholly against do...CC - I think it's possible to be wholly against dog fighting and general harm-causing in the world, and to not be an apologist for it in black communities, without having to give white media a pass on the points FN and others raise. Some people (me included) believe OJ Simpson killed his wife. Does that mean whatever magazine it was gets a pass for darkening his photo before plastering it on their cover? Or is talking about their racism somehow legitimizing the murder? Does it mean it's off topic for anyone to be like, hey, all this attention to one white woman getting offed sort of hits a nerve about the fact that bunches of black women get murdered and I've never seen it on Larry King? <BR/><BR/>Why is [dog fighting = bad] incompatible with [black people don't even get as much attention as dead dogs in the media = also terrible]?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-45487285830099173642007-07-20T13:27:00.000-04:002007-07-20T13:27:00.000-04:00"'MICHAEL VICK IS INNOCENT...DOG-GONE-IT'," LMAO!..."'MICHAEL VICK IS INNOCENT...DOG-GONE-IT'," <BR/><BR/>LMAO!!! Sorry christ.prog. but that was funny :)field negrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-34523508561253467392007-07-20T09:49:00.000-04:002007-07-20T09:49:00.000-04:00Once again, a Negro with too much money, and no co...Once again, a Negro with too much money, and no common sense as to how to spend it.<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry, but I'm getting fed up with our brothas who succeed against all odds to make that paper and then do something so stupid, it virtually guarantees you will be separated from said paper. There is something to the phrase "A fool and his money are soon parted."<BR/><BR/>If Denzel can work the Boys and Girls clubs, what the hell is wrong with Michael Vick.<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry, I won't be losing sleep over his training dogs to fight to the death, and I won't be losing sleep as to how much this hurts his ass with endorsements.<BR/><BR/>Every professional athlete has a "moral turpitude" clause in their contracts, and watch how fast they use it on Vick to hurt him where it really counts - IN HIS DAMNED WALLET.<BR/><BR/>I was in New York on business this week and they had Vick all but slung under the ESPN bus. And a part from one stupid brotha carrying a sign that said "MICHAEL VICK IS INNOCENT...DOG-GONE-IT", I didn't see any brothas rushing to defend his ass, either.The Christian Progressive Liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04445662404937684518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-9050714266830678382007-07-20T03:39:00.000-04:002007-07-20T03:39:00.000-04:00Damn Christopher Chambers, you can pull a good one...Damn Christopher Chambers, you can pull a good one out when you want to can't you. I say fuck VICK!The Fabulous Kitty Glendowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12259506108044329136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-33543133238524344152007-07-19T22:40:00.000-04:002007-07-19T22:40:00.000-04:00CC, my last post on this and I'm out. You made so ...CC, my last post on this and I'm out. You made so many unfounded assumptions I don't know where to begin. So I will list some of them:<BR/><BR/>"Meaning a new generation of miscreants are being de-sensitized to thiscrap. Another generation that would rather say Look at Mr, Charlie, look at PETA! Wha Wha Wha, then looking inwardly."<BR/><BR/>1. What an emotional amalgam. You lump all of the antagonists into one group. These same folks are de-sensitized, are whining like babies, are pointing to mr. charlie and peta(for what, I don't know), while drinking from sippy cups, watching the dog hangings. <BR/><BR/>2. You really should read "Getting It Wrong" before you start talking about what our "generation" black youth are doing and thinking. <BR/><BR/>3. Most people and walk and chew gum at the same time. And most black folks can look inwardly, take responsibility, and recognize when "mr. charlie" is peeing in our front yards. <BR/><BR/>"Another generation who just doesn't give a fuck, and is letoff the hook by folk like Mr. Caged Lion there. (Remember I said, the FBI profiles serial killers beginning with how folk related to animals in certain settings)"<BR/><BR/>Who's letting anyone off the hook? (I ask for the X time.) From what I understand mr. vick was indicted, and will be likely convicted. Yaaaaaay!! Is that what you want to hear? Excuse me, I'm too busy fuming over Jena to crack a smile.....<BR/><BR/>On the FBI. Is this the same FBI that wiretaps Quakers without a warrant (because it profiles them as a threat)? Is this the FBI that does so well at profiling terrorists in our midst? Forgive me if I actually require evidence and data before I believe what the government tells me. You keep swallowing their claims hook, line and sinker. <BR/><BR/>"This is a criminal enterprise intimately entertwined with drug dealing and murder. I think you'l find that the "don't snitch" mentality sticks to this stuff not only because of a warped culture, but because folks are scared of the same people who killed X number of their own people over the past year."<BR/><BR/>HUH? I'm sure if you dig deep enough, you'll find vick had secret meetings with Saddam Hussien, and the hijackers. Those dog fighters are the bane of the earth, I tells ya!<BR/><BR/>And if you want to find a highly visible "no snitching" culture, call your boy Libby for some pointers. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Seriously, you are proving what alot of us are saying by heaping every conceivable evil on vick's dog fighting enterprise, and then blaming the actions of these criminals on the black community as a whole. <BR/><BR/>Vick was wrong. But instead of indicting vick, you want to indict the black community for the transgressions of a few thugs. And then you wonder why blacks don't want to hear your self-hating ---not introspective--- message.<BR/><BR/>-Caged LionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-12723350620132976502007-07-19T21:24:00.000-04:002007-07-19T21:24:00.000-04:00So, naysayers, white media have no effect on the c...So, naysayers, white media have no effect on the consciousness or decisionmaking of Blacks?<BR/><BR/>Do white media have an impact on anybody? Whites, Asians, anybody?<BR/><BR/>If white media just have impact on just non-Black people, is that cause enough for Field to call attention to the inconsistency of the thinking. <BR/><BR/>If the goal of you naysayers is to insure black independent action or thinking does it then not make sense for Field to call attention to the media reporters that might misshapen such independent thought or influence actions of other non-Black people that might impact Black independent thought and action?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-2171384502151459772007-07-19T21:02:00.000-04:002007-07-19T21:02:00.000-04:00You want to know the kicker that makes me vomit? T...You want to know the kicker that makes me vomit? The cops found empty sippy cups, diapers and such in one of the raids on the little bloody dog area, etc. Meaning a new generation of miscreants are being de-sensitized to thiscrap. Another generation that would rather say Look at Mr, Charlie, look at PETA! Wha Wha Wha, then looking inwardly. Or maybe I'm giving them too much credit. Another generation who just doesn't give a fuck, and is letoff the hook by folk like Mr. Caged Lion there. (Remember I said, the FBI profiles serial killers beginning with how folk related to animals in certain settings)<BR/><BR/>This is a criminal enterprise intimately entertwined with drug dealing and murder. I think you'l find that the "don't snitch" mentality sticks to this stuff not only because of a warped culture, but because folks are scared of the same people who killed X number of their own people over the past year.<BR/><BR/>I guess here's rub: this issue is one of those times when I have to group certain black folks in the same way I groups these right wingers who blog and leave comments--you have some sort of cement mindset on something and it's not that you can't see the forest from the trees...you won't. Now, that's your peroragative but day-um...Christopher Chambershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16981041389119024155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-22981690894779741012007-07-19T20:22:00.000-04:002007-07-19T20:22:00.000-04:00"That is ridiculous. Mike Vick is at the center of..."That is ridiculous. Mike Vick is at the center of the news because he is super famous, super rich, and is super scumbag...." <BR/><BR/>Folks, just remember this quote: "there is nothing a white man with a penny hates more than a nigger with a nickel" <BR/><BR/>"Get over this race first mentality because its a real set back" <BR/><BR/>Mmmm, it doesn't seem to be a real "set back" for you folks. I mean you always think race first too right? <BR/><BR/>Tell you what anon., I will quit thinking race first when you do. Deal?field negrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-67186559523198598692007-07-19T20:13:00.000-04:002007-07-19T20:13:00.000-04:00Still with "Caged Lion" on this one" Sorry Mark, a...Still with "Caged Lion" on this one" Sorry Mark, and Chris, but this is not about how we as black people respond to the crisis going on in our community.<BR/><BR/>Mark, I think you know me well enough to know that no one calls people--black and white-- on their bullshit quicker than I do. I think I have been tougher on black folks than most of the AA bloggers out here. But I am sorry; I just can't stand the double standard in our society, and the selective outrage when it comes to certain things.<BR/><BR/>Yes, we should focus on us, and not what white folks think about us. Duh! But we don't live in a vacuum here in America, and believe it or not, the indifference to the plight of REAL people and not fucking dogs in society is troubling.<BR/><BR/>As I write this, Jason "HN" Whitlock is on O-Lie-ly's show talking about how black people need to do this and that, and how hip hop is bad for black people, blah blah blah. Why was he not on some right wing show talking about the Jena 6, and the Wilson case in Georgia? I will tell you why; it's called selective outrage, and all of a sudden every body is suffering from it.field negrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-54122074060006799772007-07-19T19:57:00.000-04:002007-07-19T19:57:00.000-04:00First off, I find it striking that many of the blo...First off, I find it striking that many of the bloggers believe that Vick is only in the news because the white media wants to vilify black criminals. That is ridiculous. Mike Vick is at the center of the news because he is super famous, super rich, and is super scumbag. If Paris Hilton was behind a dog fighting ring and indicted, do you truly believe that it would fly under the media radar? It would be all over the news. This story just gives fodder to the continous demonizing of white america and need to continue to blame white people for everything that goes wrong. Give me a fricken break. And to say that America shouldnt be outraged by anything that goes wrong in the world until white america starts treating black people better is pathetic. Great logic. Lets let the rest of the entire world turn to shit because you belive the world revolves around your race. When in fact, the world revolves aroung money. Rich white people and rich black people dont care about poor black or white people generally. Get over this race first mentality because its a real set back. And to you white apologists on this blog that want to think that your race is so bad because of what some aristocratic white guys did prior to the civil war, and for what some rednecks did until the 60's, get over it. Stop hating yourselves and blaming white people for everything. Its pathetic. Its just as pathetic as black people doing nothing to better themselves while blaming white people to their plight. Its getting old.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-70114524927963716552007-07-19T17:34:00.000-04:002007-07-19T17:34:00.000-04:00Sigh.1. CC, what's with this need to demonize blac...Sigh.<BR/><BR/>1. CC, what's with this need to demonize black folks by continuing to insist that blacks are making vick into a hero? Who is making Vick out to be a hero? Answer: noone. The more you make up these strawmen and outright fabrications, the less tenable your position becomes and the more you sound like Rush Limbaugh. <BR/><BR/>2. Secondly, CC, it is not a "FACT" that dog fighting leads to these other crimes--if you meant a documented correlation when you said "FACT" (writing "fact" in ALL CAPS does not make something a fact). At least, I haven't seen you establish this. I have not even found a documented correlation. Perhaps one of these lawyers or sociologists can produce a study. <BR/><BR/>Police find guns and drugs in highway stops all the time; yet noone would seriously posit that highway driving leads to or causes gun and drug use. <BR/><BR/>3. Most of what people are saying about black crime, corruption, etc, I agree with. But, this isn't the point of Field's post! To bring up black-on-black crime is a total non-sequitor. Further, this rhetorical device can be used to devolve any and every post/thread in the same manner. The end result: all discussion of white racism/privilege becomes annulled. <BR/><BR/>4. I believe in and practice self determination, but to discount and minimize the impact of white media and white racism is simply foolish. Has anyone heard of the Jena 6? The people in Tulia, Texas? The brother and sister lawyers in NYC that got punched and brutilized by cops? I could go on and on. By the logic of some, if black folks weren't lazy, shiftless criminals, none of those incidents would have happened. (and no, I am not comparing those real victims to vick) Our young men are dying in Iraq because of the lying media, and because of a population that could give a damn about "sand niggers". <BR/><BR/>White racism and white "mainstream" media have an impact, and the overblown coverage of vick's transgressions are an example of how the myth of inherent black criminality is propagated. <BR/><BR/>And the double standard is disgusting to me.<BR/><BR/>5. I stand by my original point that until I see some humane treatment of our people, issues like dog fighting are off the radar screen.<BR/><BR/>-Caged LionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-33281433057502647782007-07-19T17:12:00.000-04:002007-07-19T17:12:00.000-04:00Also, PLEASE stop dragging PETA into everything. I...Also, PLEASE stop dragging PETA into everything. I notice PETA is the knee-jerk response from people who think that they are "shaming" "crazy PETA folks" based on PETA's rep for crazy.<BR/><BR/>PETA people are, in my opinion, overzealous fanatics. There are two other more well respected, national organizations who are consulted work with violence against people, animals and children and it is these organizations who work closely with law enforcement: the Humane Society of the U.S. www.hsus.org and the ASPCA www.aspca.org.<BR/><BR/>PETA is pretty much out the game as far as credibility and respectability. "Legit" agencies rarely consult with them or want their names attached to their craziness. Please come into the 21st century. Enjoy your blog Field Negro.<BR/>pwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com