tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post740260376758329945..comments2024-03-29T06:00:43.974-04:00Comments on field negro: The new blackface?field negrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comBlogger93125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-27223475284724847562009-08-31T14:36:05.034-04:002009-08-31T14:36:05.034-04:00fn:
saga continues...
the aunt has been released...fn:<br /><br />saga continues...<br /><br />the aunt has been released<br /><br />http://www.insidebayarea.com/top-stories/ci_13238636alicia bankshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15921804031029586951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-12499221816512117562009-08-26T22:40:19.228-04:002009-08-26T22:40:19.228-04:00the central problem however is one of sterotyping ...<i>the central problem however is one of sterotyping and racial profiling for there is no universal black male or female characterization we are as a people too diverse for that.. although hollywood seems to be narrowly confined in its portrayals template.</i><br /><br />yes. consider eddie murphy's 'The PJ's' to this black face 'Cleavland Show' consider the characters in that show. You have an asian married to a black, A woman from Haiti and Muriel a gracious, well spoken black woman very atypical from the typical project dwelling welfare queen. Are you paying attention yet Mr. McFarlane?<br /><br /> But blacks protested PJ's because it was thought to be demeaning and thought that it conveyed negative stereotypes about blacks (being in an impovershed surrounding with lines coming from the familiar voice of eddie as the 'Super' saying things like 'the hot water aint workin cause yo daddy ain't workin') *lol* sorry. <br /><br />But eddie kept it real with some albeit somewhat subliminal political messages relevant to our culture in a merry kkka.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RHployd4GM<br /><br />consider the message around the 3:45 mark. And the 'Seoul 2 Soul' realty and think back to the last time you bought the wrong color premium yaki and tried to get a refund for it at your local asian owned beauty supply. MESSAGE my brothers and sisters. <br /><br />however I hardly think mr. McFarlane is re inventing the wheel with this cleavland crap but white amerrykkka is doing handstands for it obviously and as a black person..i'm perplexed to say the very least about this. <br /><br />Its not like the damn show thats supposed to be a spin off of a show based primarily around a white middle class family going dark face is ANYTHING of the All in the Family to the Jeffersons transition.krystal*lytehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05121648048964971321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-39785163323590033592009-08-26T02:43:40.840-04:002009-08-26T02:43:40.840-04:00humm, in an aminated setting anybody can read a sc...humm, in an aminated setting anybody can read a script and still fail to gain the essence of the character they are so called playing or portraying. the central problem however is one of sterotyping and racial profiling for there is no universal black male or female characterization. we are as a people too diverse for that.. although hollywood seems to be narrowly confined in its portrayals template. in my mind, there is no difference in jj in good times, b cosby in huxtables and eddie murphy in raw. all three are set in varying backdrops of class strata but the central "cooning" is the same. Check who the writers were for all three and note any similarities.<br /><br />while i might applaud black writers getting paid for scripting, i think it they [we] need to move from a need of being universally accepted for what we write to being more real with saying what we really think and not what we think others wish to hear or read.<br /><br />But now imagine if Ms. C. Tyson's role in Sounder had been with a white person or Cecil's in Colour Purple would they have worked?beale street talkinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-14246113094146855172009-08-24T23:54:38.900-04:002009-08-24T23:54:38.900-04:00I think the operative phrase is "most televis...I think the operative phrase is "most television isn't worth watching." It's been quite a while since I liked anything on the networks. Yeah, they don't know black people. Well, guess what? They don't know white people either. They don't know people.<br /><br />The only good stuff I see out there these days is on HBO. My new favorite is <i>True Blood</i>, the vampire show. The black people on that show are great. So was Wanda Sykes's character on <i>Curb Your Enthusiasm</i>. I'm not sure if that one's still in production, or whether they're all reruns.<br /><br />I wasn't any fan of <i>The Wire</i>, about the mean streets of Baltimore. I never connected with it, and can't say why. About the only network show I can remember liking in the past 10 years is <i>Law & Order</i>, in spite of its unrealistic, idealistic, formulaic approach. I think the black characters there were great.<br /><br />Actually, it took me quite a while to realize that "Ice-T" had been a hip hopper. It was incongruous to me, because I associate hip-hoppers with the second digit of the I.Q. range, and Ice-T's character on <i>Law & Order</i> was well into the three-digits.grinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884922107235885961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-24775515586279627262009-08-24T21:05:08.671-04:002009-08-24T21:05:08.671-04:00Okay, Grinder. I'll play. I loved the characa...Okay, Grinder. I'll play. I loved the characaters Frank Pembleton (Andre Braugher) and Meldrick Lewis (Clarke Johnson) on Homicide Life on the Street. <br /><br />I liked Blair Underwood's character on LA Law. <br /><br />I love to hate Vanessa Williams' Wilhelmina on Ugly Betty. <br /><br />I particularly liked a couple of the characters on the Wire: Detective Lester Freamon played by Clarke Peters and Detective William "Bunk" Moreland played by Wendell Pierce. <br /><br />Idris Elba was great as Stringer Bell and Omar played by Michael Williams was really good. I didn't like these characters so much as appreciated that they were fleshed out characters and not cookie cutter stereotypes.<br /><br />I enjoyed Janet Jackson's short run on "Fame."<br /><br />The Cosby Show was good. It was funny and it had a variety of black characters on the show. <br /><br />There might be a couple more I'm missing. <br /><br />The thing about these characters were/are that they were in well written programs. Too much television featuring black characters is poorly written garbage. Most television programming is written by white people who don't have any idea who black people are. The fact is, most television isn't worth watching.west coast storyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16833809632143106334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-44058446580682929662009-08-24T17:53:23.877-04:002009-08-24T17:53:23.877-04:00Thank goodness. I thought this was going to be one...Thank goodness. I thought this was going to be one of those articles that compares something to blackface, then calls that something "the new blackface." <br /><br />But, this seriously is a form of blackface. It has been since Family Guy first appeared in 1999. So what are you going to get upset <i>now</i>? Get real - and stay that way.<br /><br />Did you just notice Cleveland Brown was voiced by a White guy?<br /><br />Let this one play out, man. Let's see what happens on this new spin-off.<br /><br />Let me remind you of Nate Griffin, and Rufus Griffin, both of which were Black versions of Peter. Let me remind you of the entire episode where everyone was Black except for Cleveland, who was a White slavemaster. There are numerous cases where Stewie speaks in a stereotypically Black manner. Have you missed all of this?<br /><br />I tell you what - and I am serious here. I am going to compile a definitive list of blackface, racechange, and what I call OTB incidents in Family Guy, then post that to Bambizzoozled!com, and you can spend all of your time worrying about it. I'll include video stills.<br /><br />The first joke in the series was "at least all we have around here is Jemima's witnesses" for shit's sake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-17235054023486393492009-08-24T17:02:39.496-04:002009-08-24T17:02:39.496-04:00Had to add one more point, I told my son if black ...Had to add one more point, I told my son if black rappers mysteriously disappeared from the planet for a few days, by the end of the week white guys would be saying they invented rap, jazz, rock, and blues.Vérité Parlant https://www.blogger.com/profile/09033679321805951686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-52023569545736270532009-08-24T17:00:22.943-04:002009-08-24T17:00:22.943-04:00I just saw Tropic Thunder a few nights ago for the...I just saw Tropic Thunder a few nights ago for the first time. The whole move was off the wall satire, didn't bother me. Tom Cruise as a Hollywood producer attempting to affect the black gansta rapper stereotype and Downey's black face said more about the white male feeling a loss of identity and potential irrelevance in popular culture than anything about black people.<br /><br />White guys are always riding down my street blasting gangsta rap out of their cars. Can't tell you the last time I saw a black man drive down my street playing it.Vérité Parlant https://www.blogger.com/profile/09033679321805951686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-17911625820001248002009-08-24T14:21:17.144-04:002009-08-24T14:21:17.144-04:00Now, I admit that Blacks have recently played roll...<i>Now, I admit that Blacks have recently played rolls that did not necessarily call fora Black actor, like Will Smith in Independence Day. Traditionally the role that Will Smith played would have been played by a white man, to perpetuate "The Superhuman White Male Myth". If Hollywood ignored the color of actors instead of writing scipts with the description, 'Angry White Male Strikes back at Latinos and Blacks, then Blacks might have more opportunities in Hollywood.<br /><br />I don't have faith that that will happen.</i><br /><br />Excuse me, but you just mentioned a black actor who routinely plays colorblind roles. Will Smith. Another one is Denzel Washington. And James Earl Jones.grinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884922107235885961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-26879233623507857102009-08-24T14:16:58.452-04:002009-08-24T14:16:58.452-04:00I wasn't aware that Sponge Bob was a black cha...I wasn't aware that <a href="http://partmule.com/blog16/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/sponge_bob.jpg" rel="nofollow">Sponge Bob</a> was a black character.grinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884922107235885961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-23737572413481336712009-08-24T14:14:13.000-04:002009-08-24T14:14:13.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.grinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884922107235885961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-86275777285376039942009-08-24T11:11:43.755-04:002009-08-24T11:11:43.755-04:00The problem with white people playing Black people...The problem with white people playing Black people is simple: Black people have intermittently found work in television and films by playing . . . Black people. <br /><br />White people always play white people. If they also play Black people, there won't be any opportunity left for Blacks in Hollywood, and Lord knows whites would be more willing to put Black faces on television if they knew that the actors were really white underneath.<br /><br />It's a problem of Blacks' access to jobs in Hollywood.<br /><br />Now, I admit that Blacks have recently played rolls that did not necessarily call fora Black actor, like Will Smith in Independence Day. Traditionally the role that Will Smith played would have been played by a white man, to perpetuate "The Superhuman White Male Myth". If Hollywood ignored the color of actors instead of writing scipts with the description, 'Angry White Male Strikes back at Latinos and Blacks, then Blacks might have more opportunities in Hollywood.<br /><br />I don't have faith that that will happen. I think whites will don blackface even to play Black extras - the Black people who stand in the background at white parties and offices - while Blacks will not be painted white to play white people. <br /><br />Since our unemployment levels are typically 50% to 100% above that of whites, I don't see why whites need this boost.Francis Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11862777385923656061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-18847487972517865552009-08-24T06:43:56.152-04:002009-08-24T06:43:56.152-04:00grinder, I am being dead serious when I tell you t...grinder, I am being dead serious when I tell you that I like Sponge Bob. And that is NOT being flip.field negrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-66352864493353460092009-08-24T02:29:14.982-04:002009-08-24T02:29:14.982-04:00Grinder, I am not trying to be flip. But my first ...<i>Grinder, I am not trying to be flip. But my first answer was the best one. We are not a monolithic people. Believe it or not, we all have different tastes and enjoy different things. Every one here who happens to be black might have a different program or TV show that they like that's different to the other persons. However,we usually all agree when we find something offensive, and that's where the we know it when we see it part comes in.</i><br /><br />Actually, you have been trying to be flip, but that's okay, it happens to all of us. I know you're not monolithic. Except, it would seem, when it comes to a universal disdain for black chararcters on TV. Maybe I missed a comment or two here, but all I saw here was bitching.<br /><br />I am not going to name any black characters I like because you know that would be the utter kiss of death. A white viewer could only like a black character who reinforces the white dominated power structure, blah blah blah, so I've been lying down here in the weeds looking for anyone that anyone here actually likes.<br /><br />Looks like I'll be in the weeds for quite a while.grinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884922107235885961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-54537037988430947652009-08-24T02:27:24.909-04:002009-08-24T02:27:24.909-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.grinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884922107235885961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-59282120975162032062009-08-23T18:33:43.242-04:002009-08-23T18:33:43.242-04:00Talk about intellectual dishonesty.
I ask.......
...Talk about intellectual dishonesty.<br /><br />I ask.......<br /><br />"And what "issues" would you say are peculiar only to the black community?"<br /><br />He comes back with "The Permanent interests of Black People."<br /><br />I submit that "interests" are the same across racial lines.<br /><br />Are you suggesting that these interests have been totally achieved by other races and blacks are the only ones who haven't because they vote Democratic?uptownstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-91648794540693820352009-08-23T18:27:26.894-04:002009-08-23T18:27:26.894-04:00"At a time where EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT in whi..."At a time where EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT in which Black people have at least a 35% or greater voting base - YOUR FAVORED PEOPLE (ideologically and partisan wise) are in power over EVERY INSTITUTION that provides civic services to the Black community.......YOU NO LONGER HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK SUCH A QUESTION OF ME."<br /><br />Are you stating that every one of these districts is a ghetto????<br /><br />Most of them?<br /><br />I asked the question of you because of your incessant rants about failure and pathology among the black community at large.<br /><br />Do you even acknowledge the existence of the black middle class majority?<br /><br />No, you're the sick Uncle Tom fool who claims that in order to have safe streets and healthy lifestyles you have to move to a white conservative district.<br /><br />You're pathetic.uptownstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-8551657510500103282009-08-23T18:22:02.633-04:002009-08-23T18:22:02.633-04:00[quote]And what "issues" would you say a...[quote]And what "issues" would you say are peculiar only to the black community? [/quote]<br /><br />WhiteBowieSteve:<br /><br />I have learned that YOU don't want to HEAR what I have to say.<br /><br />Thus I will allow "real" Black people to speak. Watch the video.<br /><br />http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2009/08/cnn-chicago-deadly-streets-violation-of.htmlConstructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417405356099504421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-42061979747179322052009-08-23T18:18:37.243-04:002009-08-23T18:18:37.243-04:00Ren poses the question and then Stimpy emphasizes:...Ren poses the question and then Stimpy emphasizes:<br /><br />[quote]Please outline your "ideas" in detail and explain how they would change the lives of the black community and rectify the problems therein as you see them.[/quote]<br /><br />Again you are a FRAUD.<br />At a time where EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT in which Black people have at least a 35% or greater voting base - YOUR FAVORED PEOPLE (ideologically and partisan wise) are in power over EVERY INSTITUTION that provides civic services to the Black community.......YOU NO LONGER HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK SUCH A QUESTION OF ME.<br /><br />A Black man with more intellectual honesty would be looking at this landscape and ASKING THE QUESTION OF HIMSELF and that which he has helped to construct.<br /><br />This assumes that he has the best interests of his people rather than his party/ideology in mind.<br /><br />You incessantly ask the question.<br />I continuously throw out a FRAMEWORK for both of us to submit to:<br /><br />The PERMANENT INTERESTS OF BLACK PEOPLE<br /><br />1) Safe Streets to allow us congregate and build a strong community <br />2) Quality Education which will prepare our young people to man the PROFESSIONAL SERVICE positions (ie: health care) so that our people can more organically provide for ourselves<br />3) Thriving Local Economy to allow us to trade with each other and provide employment in service to these enterprises<br />4) Healthy Lifestyles to allow our people to live long, disease-free, painfree lives as possible<br /><br />(ask Filled Negro to document his views. Let see how quickly the "Democratic Party" becomes the centerpiece).<br /><br />NOT ONE of these items are partisan or ideological.<br /><br />The IDEOLOGY comes in when one chooses a METHODOLOGY that purports to take us to these end goals.<br /><br />The PARTISAN question comes into play when one seeks out a VEHICLE which will transport the "fellow travelers/ ideologues" to the end goals.<br /><br />The problem comes, however, when a group of people get stuck in the "KEEP TRYING HARDER" vortex (See Southwest Philly, Newark, Southside Chicago, all of Detroit). <br /><br />Even when the natural landscape raises questions about their actual coordinates - the EMBEDDED operatives will instead get people to focus on the fact THAT THEY ARE MOVING......not WHERE THEY ARE GOING.<br /><br />WhiteBowieSteve - the fact that you would even have to ask if "MY plan would be any better" makes me wonder IF YOU BELIEVE THAT YOUR PLAN IS WORKING IN THE FIRST PLACE.<br /><br />Truth be told YOU will be one of the "Last Kneegrows Hanging on" if and when our community was to have a TRANSPARENT uprising in which it decided to separate its own goals as a people from the American Political system.<br /><br />You, for one, would miss all of those election night "Democratic victory parties" that line the Black community. <br /><br />It is a well known fact that those who have the most to lose are the least likely to detach. This describes you most accurately.Constructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417405356099504421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-88233178024855392482009-08-23T18:08:47.926-04:002009-08-23T18:08:47.926-04:00"I have asked CBW to schedule a BlogSpotRadio..."I have asked CBW to schedule a BlogSpotRadio session - just you and I. Focused on issues WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY."<br /><br />And what "issues" would you say are peculiar only to the black community? <br /><br />"What about Holly Robinson in "21 Jumpstreet"? For some reason you are going to say that she is a victim of racism because Johnny Depp went on to become a mega-millionaire."<br /><br />You don't find it strange that on a fictionalized TV show about gifted inner city public school students, that out of ten regular cast members the producers couldn't even concieve a black male?uptownstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-51537251585549207342009-08-23T17:57:19.545-04:002009-08-23T17:57:19.545-04:00[quote]Even in a fantasized TV show, the writers a...[quote]Even in a fantasized TV show, the writers and producers couldn't even conceive a smart black boy.[/quote]<br /><br /><br /><br />WhiteBowieSteve:<br /><br /><br /><br />I believe that you are an intellectually dishonest individual.<br /><br /><br /><br />I have asked CBW to schedule a BlogSpotRadio session - just you and I. Focused on issues WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY and thus diminishing focus upon your favorite subject "External White Conservatives". I hope that you will accept.<br /><br />I take it that you forgot about "The Smart Guy" show? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_Guy<br /><br />I bet that Steve, in his intellectually dishonesty will discount the presence of Tahj Mowry because he, like his twin sisters Tia and Tamara is a product of an interracial relationship. A White father and a Black mother. The irony with Steve is that he would not dare discount Obama in the same way.<br /><br />He said "Robin Givens is a LIGHT SKINNED Black Woman". <br /><br />What about Holly Robinson in "21 Jumpstreet"? For some reason you are going to say that she is a victim of racism because Johnny Depp went on to become a mega-millionaire. <br /><br />This show was a cop show on Fox - so I am sure that they arrested their fair share of Black criminals per the request of the network. Right Filled Negro?Constructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417405356099504421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-40320130920881053752009-08-23T17:15:18.174-04:002009-08-23T17:15:18.174-04:00"Negroes are against color blind casting.&quo..."Negroes are against color blind casting."<br /><br />This statement is beyond stupid.<br /><br />What people are complaining about is white people portraying black stereotypes.<br /><br />WCS would probably welcome a return of minstrel shows.uptownstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-2023440804030013482009-08-23T15:53:59.838-04:002009-08-23T15:53:59.838-04:00I co-sign with Noble Giant.
Whoever asked for tit...I co-sign with Noble Giant.<br /><br />Whoever asked for titles of shows/movies that negroes approve of, the answer is none. <br /><br />People bitch about Tyler Perry but Martin "the coon" Lawrence gets a pass. Go figure.<br /><br />So if white people playing black people is wrong (at best, racist at worst), the reverse must be equally wrong. Throw all those black actors out of work for playing parts that were written for white people. You heard it here here first, folks. Negroes are against color blind casting. Black actors should only take roles that depict real black people. Whatever the hell that is. And god save us from the clowns who will be the "deciders."west coast storyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16833809632143106334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-28188316135067742942009-08-23T15:37:24.309-04:002009-08-23T15:37:24.309-04:00Constructive Feedback,
"I truly believe that...Constructive Feedback,<br /><br />"I truly believe that IF some of you don't speak out against those who cry racism on everything - at the end of these 4 years even a significant portion of White liberals are going to tire of it and some loss of sensitivity is going to build up as a result."<br /><br />You really don't get it, do you?<br /><br />Now that there is a black man in the White House, it's the white righties who are yelling "RACISM" at every turn and trying to rile up their base by suggesting that black people are trying to engage in some form of "payback" against white supremacy.<br /><br />Do you live under a rock?<br /><br />They've called Obama a racist.<br /><br />Michele Obama has been smeared as a racist.<br /><br />Sonia Sotomayor is a racist according to the fools.<br /><br />Henry Louis Gates who was arrested for entering his own home becomes the bad guy and the white cop who clearly overstepped his authority and position becomes the media victim.<br /><br />Wake the hell up, will you?uptownstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-76398929535946245882009-08-23T13:59:18.630-04:002009-08-23T13:59:18.630-04:00uptwonsteve:
You're right. I want to see wha...uptwonsteve:<br /><br />You're right. I want to see what Tyler Perry does with that big ass studio. There are black sci-fi writers, historical writers, non fiction writers. They all don't have to be comedy shows. Hell, I'd even embrace a show with young black males logically solving mysteries (not murders). Like Hardy Boys or something. Or even a science show (like that guy who was a mailman, but he liked science and got his own show--I forgot his name).trickster206noreply@blogger.com