tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post8043542140993359930..comments2024-03-28T10:43:34.270-04:00Comments on field negro: Praying for dollars.field negrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comBlogger72125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-36548477476798077462010-01-08T10:03:44.022-05:002010-01-08T10:03:44.022-05:00what could be more sinful as people starve and fre...what could be more sinful as people starve and freeze homeless in the streets than giving one penny to a rabid vulgar homhating demon like rw???<br /><br />yet another kudo for his bromancer obama who elevated warren's money making game immensely from day 1 in dc...<br /><br />yet another example of the rabid elitist hypocrisies of typical hypchristians...shame!!!<br /><br />shame!!!<br /><br /><br />http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/unholy-ugliness-in-uganda-american-racists-pimp-homohating-africans.html<br /><br />http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/an-open-letter-to-earl-ofari-hutchinson-obama-has-dogged-gays-and-blacks-1.htmlalicia bankshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15921804031029586951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-20650427807371622392010-01-08T08:46:52.397-05:002010-01-08T08:46:52.397-05:00My healing gifts will start at 25$ a pop. You bet...My healing gifts will start at 25$ a pop. You betta get'em cheap before I go mega!!!! lol!Bang'n on that BEASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03629542440149761513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-89558711890517836192010-01-07T20:12:17.659-05:002010-01-07T20:12:17.659-05:00Agape2010, "When Rev. Ike died I heard people...Agape2010, "When Rev. Ike died I heard people saying how sad they were...I was like...WTF??? Rev. Ike made his money off poor people (like this Rick dude...only he's mega).<br /><br />I remember Rev. Ike said he could "heal" you if you just..."PUT YO' HAND ON DA RADIO" Richard Pryor paradied him well in Car Wash."<br /><br />Rev Ike was a good soul and he could heal people over the radio. You just lacked the faith to try it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-77837928979277988072010-01-07T17:55:48.444-05:002010-01-07T17:55:48.444-05:00All I know that in Queens, there are up to six chu...All I know that in Queens, there are up to six churches on one city block and none of them pay property taxes (some of which are allocated to schools). This landscape goes on and on and on through South Jamaica. There fore, when I drive down Merrick Boulevard, I see at least twenty churches in a given area of four blocks and yet I.S. 8 is underfunded and marginal.trickster206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-87541217582104982342010-01-07T16:17:17.038-05:002010-01-07T16:17:17.038-05:00selling hope. a damn shame.selling hope. a damn shame.Patrick Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18437742873268201243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-32756396039833451142010-01-07T07:25:19.749-05:002010-01-07T07:25:19.749-05:00[quote]that the greatest enemy of change is apathy...[quote]<b>that the greatest enemy of change is apathy -- most Americans like to whine but don't care enough to change what causes the griping. And if we do get involve, its because a charismatic, slick hype man</b>[/quote]<br /><br />LAC:<br /><br />Let me set the stage for you. I don't believe that we need to have ideological agreement with each other for us to agree on the same goals. I respect that you believe as you do. From my view I see the key flaw as being the lack of ORGANIC DEVELOPMENT among the people.<br /><br />I agree with your viewpoint that parents need to get involved with their schools.<br /><br />Instead of hammering the school administration - they also need to AUGMENT their capabilities. They need to help out with community tutoring after school and things like that.<br /><br />I told you before that "socialism" in and of itself is not problematic. It is when the practice becomes EXPANSIVE only for the sake of holding some external authority accountable for 'social justice' while never asking MUCH OF THOSE WHO SEEK TO BENEFIT that it becomes destructive to the cause of the people.<br /><br />Think about it LAC - How can someone bring "Christian Salvation" upon a person unless that person is the primary engine for his own salvation?<br /><br />The people have to be directly involved in constructing the STANDARD OF LIVING that they desire. It cannot be bestowed upon them.<br /><br />Cultures are developed after a people have learned the painful lessons of life without a functional culture and the damage that it wrought.Constructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417405356099504421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-49366659646348041792010-01-07T07:17:45.988-05:002010-01-07T07:17:45.988-05:00LAC - despite your attempted "outreach" ...LAC - despite your attempted "outreach" you REMAIN committed to your dogma without any intention of ALLOW IT TO BE PUT ON TRIAL!!!<br /><br />[quote]<b> Basic things like Healthcare and basic secondary education (community college, state schools, etc) are all but free for EU members and Canadians. We're the only industrial country stupid enough to think that we run a modern society with some form of solid state welfare. </b>[/quote]<br /><br />LAC - With all due respect. Don't take this as a brush off.<br /><br />IF Canada is so wonderful - why don't the aggrieved Americans do what the Mexicans are doing? SNEAK INTO CANADA for a better life!!!!<br /><br />I assure you as sure as I am standing here that IF Canada saw a heavy influx of Illegal Immigrants and they started TAXING THE EURO-SOCIALIST system's ability to deliver services that your THEORIES would be put aside as they started to PROTECT THEIR OWN.<br /><br />The problem that I have with you LAC is that you are never, never, never going to focus your eyes upon MEXICO and challenge them, as EQUAL PEOPLE, to put forth a SYSTEM that can better take care of their own people.<br /><br />IRONICALLY LAC - that phantom system will be more CAPITALISTIC than your liking.<br /><br />[quote]<b> but their wealthy predominantly white suburbs are just fine thank you. Why? Because educated, well heel yuppies and old money white guys aren't gonna put up with but so much before they throw your behind to the curb. </b>[/quote]<br /><br />This is an ILLOGICAL analysis despite it being POPULAR among Progressives.<br /><br />When the WHITE FOLKS moved out it was not a matter of their "human bodies" that moved which imperiled these cities. These Whites are made of the same carbon, oxygen, potassium and calcium as all others. There is nothing special.<br /><br />Instead it was the SYSTEM OF PRODUCTION that once BUILD UP these same cities and attracted PEOPLE and then GOVERNMENT to keep things in order that was lost.<br /><br />LAC - A few months ago I reported on how a public school in Philadelphia (Gompers) that was once a part of the civil rights struggle is now all Black. Despite this advancement ON PAPER - local parents in the community are sending their children elsewhere.<br /><br />I maintain that it was not the physical building that was struggled over. THEY WON!! The "strugglers" now have it as their own. <br /><br />It was not even the WHITE FOLKS whom they sought to sit next to that was the point of value. <br /><br />Instead it was the PREVAILING SYSTEM that governed the school that was ultimately of VALUE.<br /><br />When people like you focus on the "wealthy people" or "the White people" you have already gone awry. <br /><br />What matters more than this is the SYSTEM and/or PROCESSES that had been implemented to produce the favorable outcomes that you now covet. <br /><br />IF these had been a "Chinese" establishment that built up the same thing - you would be saying the same. I challenge you to evaluate the PROCESSES and determine if you are willing to implement them in the cities as they stand today so that the same WEALTH and HUMAN CAPACITY can be developed.<br /><br />Do you see that as you focus on your OUTWARD EXPANSION, with the hopes of procuring RESOURCES that you will later bring back home to the masses you have not ENGAGED the people. You have only worked on BEHALF OF THEM and now you distribute to them.<br /><br />WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ALIGN THEIR PERPETUAL BEHAVIOR WITH THEIR HIGHER GOALS?Constructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417405356099504421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-60910653355906225542010-01-06T11:26:44.779-05:002010-01-06T11:26:44.779-05:00CF, don't misunderstand me -- I never said Bla...CF, don't misunderstand me -- I never said Black urban centers were bastions of light. In fact, I would concur that these places were Hell holes and their local elected leaders little more than 'Poverty Pimps' long before guys like Eddie Long showed up. If anything, working class folks in these cities don't demand more from their leaders.<br /><br />The problem I have is that <br />1) the Horatio Algiers myth is just that, myth. Our country as whole is screwed up because we all have drank the Kool-Aid that 'if you're so smart, why aren't you rich?' and that progressive taxation doesn't work. The rest of the Western world rejected that inane BS decades ago. Basic things like Healthcare and basic secondary education (community college, state schools, etc) are all but free for EU members and Canadians. We're the only industrial country stupid enough to think that we run a modern society with some form of solid state welfare. <br /><br />2. The reason why our cities suck is that Americans don't get actively involved in their government at any level. Whether its running starting a neighborhood watch, running the local school board, or just showing up once a month a the city council meetings, most Black and Brown folks in the hood just don't give a damn. Yes all the cities you listed suck -- but their wealthy predominantly white suburbs are just fine thank you. Why? Because educated, well heel yuppies and old money white guys aren't gonna put up with but so much before they throw your behind to the curb. <br /><br />After running for local city government twice, I've come to the conclusion that the greatest enemy of change is apathy -- most Americans like to whine but don't care enough to change what causes the griping. And if we do get involve, its because a charismatic, slick hype man (Messy Jesse for Black folks in the hood, Nader for hippies or what ever former-corporate PR man is running the Tea Baggers) rallies a crazed angry mob in the streets while offering little to nothing to fix our problems. Its easy to say how Obama failed us in 1 year or that Bush was an incompetent. But to actually engage the system to change it requires sacrifice, something Americans avoid like the plague. CF, we both agree that Slick Willie pols who have long pimped the poor and well meaning progressives needed to be thrown out with the leisure suit (Jackson, Sharpton, Nader) or at least taken to the tool shed. But the same can be said for well-fed con men on the right like Limbaugh, Beck and Dobson.<br /><br />3. The conversation is about how the AA religious community is plagued with pulpit pimps who fleece their poor and desperate parishoners while living like the Hugh Hefner. Forget my far left political leanings, preachers getting insanely rich off of the free Word of God is un-Biblical and just plain wrong, no matter what lever you pull on election day. On that can we agree, CF?LACoincidentalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529463652136455230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-83923501307854814302010-01-06T06:45:36.817-05:002010-01-06T06:45:36.817-05:00and i do not attend church...or give money to any....and i do not attend church...or give money to any. raised catholic, i left long ago over abortion, ordination of women, etc.---long before the pedophile scandals.<br /><br />yet i am deeply committed to helping those who need it--in small but also systemic ways. it's a pretty simple "ideology."mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00631814857608730236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-32464875235371837002010-01-06T06:43:48.126-05:002010-01-06T06:43:48.126-05:00CF, i am beginning to better understand your posit...CF, i am beginning to better understand your position, and i agree with much.<br /><br />all of my efforts are focused on my city--local efforts--and state, where i am active before AND after elections and issues have seemingly run their course...i am a volunteer when i can and advocate for for the homeless through PRIVATE (as well as government) investment in low income housing, etc., being fought by my monied, elitist, neighbor NIMBY's.mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00631814857608730236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-51736919915035647092010-01-06T06:15:47.632-05:002010-01-06T06:15:47.632-05:00Amazing thought provoking debate going on here! Go...Amazing thought provoking debate going on here! Good to see things get back to normal around here!<br /><br />LC, thanks for the shout out!Dr. Nuwanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04852110387810910613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-12711274714970426262010-01-06T02:57:09.758-05:002010-01-06T02:57:09.758-05:00[quote]the issue is that American citizens were tr...[quote]<b>the issue is that American citizens were treated like war refugees in a nation they paid taxes in, were shot at by their neighbors when desperately seeking dry land and food. </b>[/qutoe]<br /><br />Stunning. Let me ask you L.A.C. - when you see people in N.O. getting KILLED TO-DAMNED-DAY where there is NO FLOOD does this temper your outrage?<br /><br />When you see housing policies in which people who had taken residence in PROJECTS that were originally cast as "Temporary Housing" for those in TRANSITION only to hear of a woman who lived there for 32 years and now as they raze the GOVERNMENT facility - SHE IS NO MORE ABLE TO STAND TODAY than she was when she first set foot in the projects - WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU?<br /><br />What if someone sat in YOUR CHURCH for 32 years and was no more capable of a Christian today than when they were in need of a healing VISION? Would YOU seek to extend their time in the church? OR WOULD YOU START INSPECTING THE CHURCH and the DAMAGE that it is doing by SQUANDERING THE POTENTIAL?<br /><br /><br />[QUOTE]<b><br />You practice the type of "Christianity" I despise, 'I got mine, get yours, N**a!!'</b><br /><br />L.A.C. - the feeling is mutual. <br />You practice RELIGION.<br /><br />I practice righteously inspired HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT. <br /><br />The same people who seek to avoid the "LITERAL INTERPRETATIONS" of the bible in relation to societal challenges that we face lest someone be called a FUNDAMENTALIST now seeks to render a more exact reading of it against their adversaries. <br /><br />When the SYSTEM that the masses are allowed to live under because of ALTRUISTIC people like you who don't see them as EQUALLY COMPETENT HUMAN BEINGS, able to bear the equal burden of RESPONSIBILITY becomes fully entrenched within their lives YOU ARE AT YOUR STRONGEST.<br /><br />Instead of "I got mine....." YOU practice "I will feed you brother and from this you will be eternally appreciative of ME".<br /><br />I see SERVICING in your ministry.<br />I see NO "build up" of MAN!!!<br /><br />[quote]<b>Modern American conservatism is the greatest lie perpetuated on the American middle class since the sinking of the Maine.</b>[/quote]<br /><br />L.A.C.:<br /><br />WHERE is the "CONSERVATISM" in Detroit?<br />WHERE is the "CONSERVATISM" in Chicago?<br />WHERE is the "CONSERVATISM" in Cleveland?<br />WHERE is the "CONSERVATISM" in Buffalo?<br />WHERE is the "CONSERVATISM" in Milwaukee?<br />WHERE is the "CONSERVATISM" in Newark?<br />WHERE is the "CONSERVATISM" in Philadelphia?<br />WHERE is the "CONSERVATISM" in Baltimore?<br />WHERE is the "CONSERVATISM" in DC?<br />WHERE is the "CONSERVATISM" in Atlanta?<br />WHERE is the "CONSERVATISM" in Miami?<br />WHERE is the "CONSERVATISM" in Birmingham?<br />WHERE is the "CONSERVATISM" in New Orleans?<br />WHERE is the "CONSERVATISM" in Memphis?<br /><br />The ONLY FORCE that is not at FAULT in your world, L.A.C. is the PREVAILING POWERS that the people actually LIVE WITHIN on their day to day basis. Instead you chase THE far off SUN because of its purported AUTHORITY over them.<br /><br />Again you have made CONSERVATISM the ESTABLISHMENT AUTHORITY that must be slain!!! Nothing about the previous VICTORIES of the local progressive establishment that defines the order of the day. <br /><br />You can't bear to see that WHEN YOU BECOME THE ESTABLISHMENT over a domain that the people are suffering within - INSTEAD OF CURES........you merely hit the road again on an EXPANDED CRUSADE to find more WINDMILLS to chase after in attempts to finally secure SOCIAL JUSTICE and have it RAINED DOWN UPON THE IGNORANT.<br /><br />They need not CHANGE. The OUTSIDE FORCE OF AUTHORITY ONLY NEED CHANGE to provide for the elusive FIX that you seek.<br /><br />YOU have the EMPTY SOUL sir.Constructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417405356099504421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-23007469185270033352010-01-06T02:54:43.624-05:002010-01-06T02:54:43.624-05:00L.A.C.
You are merely a LEFTIST version of the pe...L.A.C.<br /><br />You are merely a LEFTIST version of the people you despise.<br /><br />[quote]<b>The difference? Its not Hova's job to represent the principles of Christ to the common man. Lil' Wayne's paycheck isn't dependent upon leading folks to Christ.</b>[/quote]<br /><br />YOU DON'T GET IT DO YOU?<br /><br />THE PROBLEM IS that the Progressive-Fundamentalist SEEKS TO HOLD "AUTHORITY" accountable!!<br /><br />At the same time LIL WAYNE and the average Black Street Pirate depicted in the Philly Inquirer article HAVE NO EXPECTATIONS UPON THEM!!!!<br /><br />Do you see L.A.C. - YOUR PROBLEM is not your lack of ability to SEEK SOCIAL JUSTICE from those who have POWER. INSTEAD the fatal flaw is that the "rank and file" are NET CONSUMERS that you hope to SERVICE with your BLESSINGS!!!<br /><br />What about the police man or the STREET PIRATE is different in his capacity to ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY but for one attended the POLICE ACADEMY and was given a metal badge and a gun from the GOVERNMENT?<br /><br />What is the young man from the community who has turned into an ASSAILANT bound to LIVE UP TO? When HE violates someone else's SOCIAL JUSTICE, L.A.C. - when do YOU protest against him? <br /><br /><br />[quote]<b>In Scripture, a priest is always held to higher standards than the world.</b>[/quote]<br /><br />You need to LIFT YOUR EYES out of your book and see what real RIGHTEOUSNESS!!!<br /><br />WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT DEFINED INSTITUTIONS!!! We are looking at the UNBRIDLED who are KICKING IN YOUR DOOR and taking your FLAT SCREEN TELEVISION because THEY DON'T GIVE A WHAT!!!<br /><br />Do you know how many churches have been broken into in metro-Atlanta this past Christmas season? WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR RELIGION L.A.C.?<br /><br /><br />[quote]<b>First of all -- the injustice is that these people were allowed to drown and die for 5 days before the president bothered to fly over. </b>[/quote]<br /><br />L.A.C. - If I take clips of the 1927 flood in the SAME AREA and show you that despite the SAME FLOODING the modern day Katrina folks got off much better - would this make you see that FLOODING HAPPENED BEFORE BUSH? (Which is your real target)<br /><br />If I suggested that while Katrina was a blunt event - that FAR MORE PEOPLE live a "drip by drip" Katrina each day yet THOSE WHO FEED THEM AT THE SOUP LINE EVERY DAY OF THEIR LIVES have FAILED TO EMPOWER THE PEOPLE but instead empower THE GOVERNMENT TO SERVICE THEM - does this matter to you?<br /><br />In your view BUSH'S AIR FORCE ONE was more POWERFUL than the thousands of cars that streamed out of town with ONE OR TWO EMPTY SEATS , them having left their neighbors behind. Tell me what is magical about this airplane L.A.C.?Constructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417405356099504421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-17617594123206576112010-01-06T02:25:45.960-05:002010-01-06T02:25:45.960-05:00[quote] Jesus again and again, taught the disciple...[quote] Jesus again and again, taught the disciples to forsake excessive wealth and fame for the greater glory of His Gospel and Sacrifice.[/quote]<br /><br />LaCoincidental:<br /><br />IF you understand no other point that I have wrote PLEASE understand THIS ONE!!!!<br /><br />Do you see your CIRCULAR REFERENCE that you slide in?<br /><br />You make note of JESUS' demand that his disciples eschew EXCESSIVE WEALTH yet this does not stop YOU from REFERENCING your own notions of the STANDARDS OF LIVING that your SOCIAL JUSTICE theories are based on.<br /><br />Thus when YOU make use of the POLITICAL INSTITUTIONS of America to CONFISCATE wealth from others - YOU think of yourself as a benevolent man who is going after the apostate! Instead you are merely USING YOUR RELIGION to achieve a POLITICAL end - no different than the RIGHT WING EVANGELIST that you condemn.<br /><br /><br />[quote]<b> I fundamentally believe in a strong social safety and that a truly Christian nation would ensure the care for society's most vunerable.</b>[/quote]<br /><br />L.A.C.:<br /><br />The key problem with your analysis is that YOU COULD NOT SAY "I believe in:<br /><br />* A strong city<br />* A strong county<br />* A strong COMMUNITY<br /><br />The reason is because LITTLE of your ECONOMIC/CULTURAL/ACADEMIC notions of social justice is contained at the LOCAL LEVEL - where WE ALL LIVE!!!<br /><br /><b>Your disposition merely provides cover for your ideology to make its run at the NATIONAL TAKE OVER politically.</b> Despite "taking over" Philadelphia (where I am from) with a favorable POLITICAL array this place is no more able TODAY to take care of its key institutions than it did when the "oppressor" was in charged. This DESPITE the claims of what would be the case IF we voted them out.<br /><br />I see this nation as a NETWORK OF LOCAL ECONOMIES. This is where the bulk of our production comes from. YES we have national economic policies (The Fed, etc) but the bottom line is as it always has been: People's standard of living is most determined by their LOCAL conditions. This is why Blacks moved from the South to the North, etc.<br /><br />Where did no get this NATION construct? Is it "OF GOD"? What about the people in San Diego who live closer to Mexico than they do to New York? Does GOD say that since they are in a DIFFERENT NATION that the are less deserving of help?<br /><br />Your claim of NATIONHOOD as the key arbiter of "social justice" is merely a MAN MADE notion. <br /> <br />I respond that LOGISTICALLY the LOCAL COMMUNITY CONSTRUCT is more of a reasonable way to drive people forward toward the full realization of their SOCIAL JUSTICE.<br /><br />Who was it on this very thread that panned MEGA CHURCHES because the pastor doesn't have an intimate knowledge of the individual members? <br /><br />WHY THEN is not the very same thing the case in the nationalized, BOIL THE OCEAN schemes that you prefer?<br /><br />This permanent outward struggle for National/Continental/Hemispheric and GLOBAL change is merely a BOIL THE OCEAN scheme that affords you to assume the milieu of the PERMANENT STRUGGLE while never having to own up to the LOCAL RESULTS in the places that you have already "conquered".<br /><br />It is ANTI-HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT and thus unsound. <br /><br />You prefer STRUGGLE over MANAGEMENT.Constructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417405356099504421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-13156359276222061742010-01-06T01:22:12.752-05:002010-01-06T01:22:12.752-05:00CF:
Here is some good advice for you so you can h...CF:<br /><br />Here is some good advice for you so you can have peace of mind: <br /><br />Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.GrannyStandingforTruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17427949558167014793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-60164093746033785722010-01-06T01:08:31.784-05:002010-01-06T01:08:31.784-05:00BTW, CF:
I don't know what to make of your co...BTW, CF:<br /><br />I don't know what to make of your comment about the soup lines. Your comments sort of gave me the impression you have a disdain for soup lines. People who are hungry are being fed in those soup lines--children, and women. BTW, Glad Tidings does give them the word along with a meal. Just about all soup lines do that. Nevertheless, wouldn't it make better sense to feed a person that is hungry first and pray for them and give them the word after their belly is full? Because when a person is hungry and stomach is growling, their mind is on what they gone eat. A fella can't concentrate on a empty stomach and they starving. <br /><br />I don't know what bible you reading, but mines says "For ye have the poor always with you" and to defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy." <br /><br />You sort of remind of the rich man and Lazarus. All Lazarus wanted was a few crumbs off the rich man's table. The bible said that someone would take and throw Lazarus down at the rich man's gate. The rich man was giving all those elaborate parties for all of his rich friends while Lazarus sat at his gate. It said that the rich man was dressed in expensive clothes to the tee--all sharp and things. While the dogs was coming along and licking Lazarus's sores.<br /><br />Now let me break that down for you CF, because this message is STRICKLY for you. (wink)<br /><br />Those dogs that came by licking Lazarus's sores represented people who badmouthed him and just like some of these folks today,"He need to get a job. He needs to pull himself up by his bootstrap, etc.," who stereotype and assume. Or walk by a homeless person and look down on them like they're dirt or subhuman, and treat them bad.<br /><br />The sores represent the hurt from the wounds inflicted by those people badmouthing him. When it said that some would bring Lazarus to the gate and throw him down there. That symbolic for Lazarus needed a little HELP! He was cripple! Its many poor people out there that are crippled in their situation. Not everyone is homeless because their on drug addicts or crazy or irreponsible.<br /><br />CF, you know I love you but you sort puzzled me with your soup line comments.GrannyStandingforTruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17427949558167014793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-73369697286945380172010-01-06T00:36:34.175-05:002010-01-06T00:36:34.175-05:00Mellaneous your comments touched that fire inside ...Mellaneous your comments touched that fire inside of me the most because it was the heart of the Lord speaking. All of you made some pretty good points. When I signed a few minutes ago and read all of y'all comments it reminded me of the first time I ever came to this blog and what made it so great and unique.<br /><br />CF:<br />Scroll back up CF and please tell me where I said anything about Rick Warren. I think when you scroll back up you'll find that my comments were about mega churches whose pastors are driving Rolls Royce, living in mansions, etc., while their members are poor and barely surviving. Correct me if I am wrong but I was making general statements.<br /><br />"Granny - Since Filled Negro is a self-described "Non-believer" yet Rev Warren believes that his SAVIOR IS JESUS CHRIST......can you show me where you have asked Filled-Negro about his SPIRITUAL WALK more times than you have hated on Rev Warren? YOU are a self-professed CHRISTIAN - isn't this what YOU are called to do?"<br /><br />Let me ask you a question CF. When did God whisper in your ear and tell you what I am called to do and give you explicit details of my spiritual job description? Wouldn't God let me know first before he tells you?<br /><br />When Jesus went to a city and the people did not have a heart to receive his message, he didn't force them to hear it. You see, that's one of the major problems with some of our church folks--shoving Jesus down their throat, which results in shoving them further away from him instead of bringing them to him. Jesus didn't tell not one of his apostles to shove his message down people's throats. Jesus was a gentleman. <br /><br />My bible tells me "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me DRAW him: and I will raise him up at the last day."<br />So don't you tell me what I am supposed to do because I know the WORD. You need to worry about working out your own soul salvation and pray that the Lord sends someone your way to give you a word.GrannyStandingforTruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17427949558167014793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-87595617838654572392010-01-05T23:57:53.952-05:002010-01-05T23:57:53.952-05:00the priests are gonna have fun tonight
they are ro...the priests are gonna have fun tonight<br />they are rounding up some boys<br />they won't be singing in the choir<br />but they're gonna make some noise<br /><br />pedophilia is called a venial sin<br />but it's just sex without consent<br />the Catholic Church wants you to think<br />that it has been Heaven sent<br /><br />Oh heavenly father with wisdom<br />and your divine grace<br />help me hold this altar boy<br />and keep him in his place<br /><br />the Vatican is an awesome wonder<br />festooned with incredible art<br />the Pope may not be a pedophile<br />but he's certainly played his part<br /><br />shuffling all the priests around<br />was the substance of their game<br />and now they will forever suffer<br />the consequences of their shame<br /><br />the question left to ponder<br />those thousands in St Peter's square<br />do they really not know<br />or do they just don't carefinefroghairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14259359593329028201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-48646940211892787152010-01-05T23:40:11.294-05:002010-01-05T23:40:11.294-05:00maria, yes and no. Yes, we both agree that opport...maria, yes and no. Yes, we both agree that opportunistic leaders and ineffective policies have lead to systemic failure within the Black community.<br /><br />The difference is that I fundamentally believe in a strong social safety and that a truly Christian nation would ensure the care for society's most vunerable.<br /><br /><br />CF unfortunately believes that the great evil of American society is not the erosion of the social safety net or corruption within our government, but the concept of social safety net and modern social-democratic government itself.LACoincidentalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529463652136455230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-69630197469667421352010-01-05T22:49:23.988-05:002010-01-05T22:49:23.988-05:00yes you can.
and LAC i believe you and CF agree m...yes you can.<br /><br />and LAC i believe you and CF agree more than you think, as you can't defend the policies that have allowed poor people of all colors to live in unhealthy conditions. <br /><br />and he's saying that exactly.mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00631814857608730236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-60833515346373638422010-01-05T21:47:21.129-05:002010-01-05T21:47:21.129-05:00Well said LACoincidental, cosign 100%Well said LACoincidental, cosign 100%Stacksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-41896383104562371642010-01-05T21:09:30.742-05:002010-01-05T21:09:30.742-05:00CF:
First of all, I'm a former Bible Study tea...CF:<br />First of all, I'm a former Bible Study teacher and trustee (sexton for Catholics). I study my Scripture regularly. I'm a liberal and care for the poor because Christ did. Jesus again and again, taught the disciples to forsake excessive wealth and fame for the greater glory of His Gospel and Sacrifice. So before you write me off as some agnostic mau-mau whiner who hates the church -- think before you but your foot in your mouth.<br /><br /> quote:<br /><i>Let us match Warren up with Jay Z, Lil Wayne or Lady Gaga - do you see any more DEEP SPIRITUALITY among the later group?</i><br />Dude that makes no sense. The former is a man of the cloth the later are a bunch of pop stars. Of course the later three have done and in the case of Weezy and Gaga, still a lot of rather inane dear I say unholy things. <br /><br />The difference? Its not Hova's job to represent the principles of Christ to the common man. Lil' Wayne's paycheck isn't dependent upon leading folks to Christ. Its most certainly Rick Warren's job, as well as the task of TD Jakes, Jamal Bryant and the other denziens of TV preachers to preach the Gospel through thought, word and deed. In Scripture, a priest is always held to higher standards than the world. What's next? Comparing Joyce Meyers to Pamela Anderson?<br /><br /><i>As far as Katrina - the biggest INJUSTICE rendered upon them is that THESE PEOPLE were ALLOWED to live in a "bowl" that is UNDER FREAKING SEA LEVEL!!!!<br /><br />Let's tie their fate in with GLOBAL WARMING. Why would anyone in their right mind rebuild the Lower 9th Ward IF Global Warming is going to cause this area to be under water within the next 60 years?<br /><br />WHO is violating their JUSTICE with the zoning there L.I.?</i><br /><br />First of all -- the injustice is that these people were allowed to drown and die for 5 days before the president bothered to fly over. Second, the issue isn't that these people live below sea level, the issue is that American citizens were treated like war refugees in a nation they paid taxes in, were shot at by their neighbors when desperately seeking dry land and food. <br /><br />And my point still stands -- unless its 'Gonadal Politics' (queers, abortion or whatever gets old church ladies in a huff), sucking up to Hollywood types or fattening their pockets, the jiggabos aren't lifting a finger. Let's talk about the fact that many working class community were purposely built on brown fields -- toxic waste dumps. Babies literally born deformed because the State EPA didn't tell Big Momma or Uncle Joe that their modest home is built on old junkyard. Or the fact that guys like Jamal Bryant and TD Jakes live like the fore mentioned rappers while building their churches in the poorest ghettos of America.<br /><br />And whether its below sea level or not, how would you like to have your home washed away and the government stuff you into a football stadium with several thousand of your neighbors for weeks because its too cheap and callous to help? Or hire paramilitary troops trained in anti-terrorism for to police your community? Or to discovered that your home and community could have survived if your government weren't skimping on duties since the Clinton years?<br /><br />You practice the type of "Christianity" I despise, 'I got mine, get yours, N**a!!' That's not Christ, that's Ayn Rand. Wake up!! Modern American conservatism is the greatest lie perpetuated on the American middle class since the sinking of the Maine.LACoincidentalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529463652136455230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-81523881889101636042010-01-05T20:53:51.267-05:002010-01-05T20:53:51.267-05:00[quote]totally irrational and disconnected thought...[quote]totally irrational and disconnected thoughts and statements. [/quote]<br /><br />Maria:<br /><br />The problem that I have has less to do with "disconnected thoughts" than your goal posts having wheels on the bottom when it comes to me trying to kick a field goal.<br /><br />Can I print your words out and paste them on my wall:<br /><br />[quote]<b>Rick Warren is a fat man who undoubtedly is using the money to enrich himself and his "church."</b>[/quote]Constructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417405356099504421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-51470088292679397272010-01-05T20:37:41.278-05:002010-01-05T20:37:41.278-05:00CF said:
The reason why I say this is because my o...CF said:<br />The reason why I say this is because my observation of people who think like you is that you care more about being SERVICED than you do about HOW this service was obtained. As long as the person was fed it matters not that he was not EMPOWERED in his foraging skills.<br /><br />you don't know how i think and you have totally twisted what i said. i don't care about "being serviced (?!)" and saying i don't care about empowering the people i might serve?<br /><br />totally irrational and disconnected thoughts and statements. untrue as well!mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00631814857608730236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-53673406196847396532010-01-05T20:25:59.262-05:002010-01-05T20:25:59.262-05:00[quote]As a liberal whose primary driver is econom...[quote]As a liberal whose primary driver is economic justice[/qutoe]<br /><br />LaCoincidental:<br /><br />As we look at the major metro areas that are the MOST LIBERAL BEACONS in the United States - do YOU see a lot of "Social Justice" that is taking place in these areas where the CONSERVATIVES have cleared out?<br /><br />I notice that there is a vein of ANTI-AUTHORITY running through most Progressive-Fundamentalists.<br /><br />Yet when YOU RUN THE SHOW - instead of bringing forth this ELUSIVE JUSTICE - you merely EXPAND YOUR DOMAIN to GO chase after your authoritarian enemy where ever he departed.<br /><br />LaCoincidental - <br /><br />Let us match Warren up with Jay Z, Lil Wayne or Lady Gaga - do you see any more DEEP SPIRITUALITY among the later group?<br /><br />Why is it that the former is more prone to attack by you? This DESPITE the fact that the later has far more money in their coffers.<br /><br />Get this L.I. the building built by Warren is owned by his church and it is shared by THOUSANDS on Sundays, Wednesdays and throughout the week. It is a part of the community culture.<br /><br />TI, JZ and Wayne RENT auditoriums around the nation and the balance of their money IS SHARED BY NO ONE. Their "missionary" trips to Europe or Africa SAVES NO SOULS!!!!!<br /><br />Why then do you reserve your INDICTMENT for Jakes AND Warren and Dollar but these others with no grounding of their words escape your condemnation?<br /><br />WHAT REFERENCE can we turn to in which you can go to Lil Wayne and tell him that his WORDS are not in line? Surely you can go to Jakes and tell him using a 2000 year old reference.<br /><br /><br />[quote]<b> These churches have long abandoned a gospel of social justice.</b>[/quote]<br /><br />One of you please. I beg you.<br />DEFINE what "Social Justice is".<br />More importantly DEFINE IF the "lowest man in the society OWES YOU" SOME OF IT?<br /><br /><br />[quote]<b> You're not gonna catch TD Jakes or Eddie Long demanding justice for Jenna Six or Katrina victims.</b>[/quote]<br /><br />L.I. - The "Jena 6" is a raw subject with me. Their "justice" is that someone from the hood has not killed them yet based on their lifestyles.<br /><br />As far as Katrina - the biggest INJUSTICE rendered upon them is that THESE PEOPLE were ALLOWED to live in a "bowl" that is UNDER FREAKING SEA LEVEL!!!!<br /><br />Let's tie their fate in with GLOBAL WARMING. Why would anyone in their right mind rebuild the Lower 9th Ward IF Global Warming is going to cause this area to be under water within the next 60 years? <br /><br />WHO is violating their JUSTICE with the zoning there L.I.?<br /><br />I am a CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE man who doesn't believe that they can walk on water when it floods and thus I see the need to mitigate their exposure to risk.<br /><br />WHO should take the hit when "Social Justice" called "The Right of Return" (to get enough Black voters back in town to help the machine to win back their loses) exposes them to DEATH by drowning?<br /><br />Are the murderous Street Pirates violating your notion of Social Justice?Constructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417405356099504421noreply@blogger.com