tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post2074107502867033289..comments2024-03-28T13:14:09.150-04:00Comments on field negro: No barbecues for Dr. Boyce.field negrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comBlogger146125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-6619080358546860662011-07-06T22:06:32.634-04:002011-07-06T22:06:32.634-04:00Just out of curiosity Ben, you sound pretty accomp...Just out of curiosity Ben, you sound pretty accomplished. Do you have any published research we may have heard of?PilotXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-53047548782235955052011-07-06T22:02:55.979-04:002011-07-06T22:02:55.979-04:00"And as for your fifty cents, it's always..."And as for your fifty cents, it's always the least-qualified recipients of affirmative action who crow the loudest. I get it."<br /><br />And it's always underachieving white males who scream about affirmative action when a person of color is smarter and more qualified than they are. If you were really discriminated against because of your color I suggest a lawsuit. Field is a good layer, he might take your case. Of course that is if you really have degrees and were courted by NASA but I find it really hard to believe you just happened to show up when the discussion turned to the space program. Here's another suggestion, instead of posting your frustrations on a blog why not go write a resume or something. Professor, ha!PilotXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-59098457498021593242011-07-06T08:39:26.601-04:002011-07-06T08:39:26.601-04:00Dr. Watkins hit the nail on the head. But he didnt...Dr. Watkins hit the nail on the head. But he didnt offer any solutions. I've read many of his submitted articles, on another thread, and he seems to have a common sense that we need to hear. Good job FN, I hope to see you post more of his workAbuAmirahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10210095681535943356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-46006627409368989332011-07-05T23:04:20.027-04:002011-07-05T23:04:20.027-04:00Frankly, high school and college textbooks for phy...Frankly, high school and college textbooks for physics, chemistry and calculus from the 1940s contain the same information as today's texts. queef head<br /><br />ya think so? even though the transistor didnt come around until the late 40s? ure a colossal idiotAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-11559051135634481212011-07-05T23:03:08.751-04:002011-07-05T23:03:08.751-04:00"First hand experience. NASA wanted to hire m..."First hand experience. NASA wanted to hire me in 1996 but couldn't, because I was a white male. Instead, I had to be hired by NOAA and used on loan to NASA. Eventually I got sick of the BS and left to a university position. Many others have left too."<br /><br />What ever happened to the people who got hired instead of you?<br /><br />PilotX, I will take fifty cents and I would still be rich. :)<br />----------<br /><br />Take it for what you will. They wanted me enough to do what they had to do to get me in there. Today, I make a good bit more than anyone who works at NASA. <br /><br />And as for your fifty cents, it's always the least-qualified recipients of affirmative action who crow the loudest. I get it.<br /><br />The people who got hired directly by NASA are apparently busy making Muslims feel good about themselves.<br /><br />They aren't sending anyone to the moon or even inventing Tang, that's for sure.Ben Wayan IIInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-81808452354862585782011-07-05T22:50:27.721-04:002011-07-05T22:50:27.721-04:00"First hand experience. NASA wanted to hire m..."First hand experience. NASA wanted to hire me in 1996 but couldn't, because I was a white male. Instead, I had to be hired by NOAA and used on loan to NASA. Eventually I got sick of the BS and left to a university position. Many others have left too."<br /><br />What ever happened to the people who got hired instead of you?<br /><br />PilotX, I will take fifty cents and I would still be rich. :)field negrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-18830544587018135182011-07-05T22:16:37.254-04:002011-07-05T22:16:37.254-04:00"The majority of students at those schools ar..."The majority of students at those schools are white. Asians form a large minority"<br /><br />The better students are Asian. Americans by and large are failing in math and science, look at the data. My point is we need a new science and math initiative before the conservatives run this country into the ground.<br /><br />"In this country we count everything. We practice taxonomy. We collect data and we analyze it. When it comes to abortion, we know the score."<br /><br />Which means all abortions are counted and the race of the mother is included in the data without fail. Interesting hypothesis, probably wrong but interesting.PilotXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-17857824681563869382011-07-05T22:05:45.810-04:002011-07-05T22:05:45.810-04:00pilotX writes:
Kinda sorta but not really. Many e...pilotX writes:<br /><br /><i>Kinda sorta but not really. Many engineering and math students are from Asia.</i><br /><br />Actually, the students are asians. But they're also US citizens, and most were born here. Asians account for about 5% of the US population.<br /> <br /><i>Not to many native born Americans but I know what you're implying but there aren't too many white Americans filing the halls of MIT, Cal Tech ect. </i><br /><br />The majority of students at those schools are white. Asians form a large minority.no_slappzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04207475509053402475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-4098129157944886602011-07-05T21:52:43.241-04:002011-07-05T21:52:43.241-04:00"Ignorance is a problem with all races in thi..."Ignorance is a problem with all races in this country.<br /><br />You can thank the NEA for that."<br /><br /><br /><br />I'd rather thank conservatives.PilotXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-44124745922818452182011-07-05T21:51:27.352-04:002011-07-05T21:51:27.352-04:00"First hand experience. NASA wanted to hire m..."First hand experience. NASA wanted to hire me in 1996 but couldn't, because I was a white male. Instead, I had to be hired by NOAA and used on loan to NASA. Eventually I got sick of the BS and left to a university position. Many others have left too"<br /><br />Wow, another ancedotal story from an "over qualified" white male who was kept out of a job because of the color of his skin. If I had a dollar for every white guy on the internet with PhD who was passed over so a Black woman who dropped out of high school could be hired I'd be rich. <br />1. Ancedotal stories are not proof of anything except you think everyone is as gullible as you and Slappz.<br />2. I find it hard to believe if NASA, I guess it was Mr. NASA himself, wanted to hire you there wouldn't be a problem. Maybe it was something else in your past they found out about? A cheating scandal in your past? A DUI? Something or was it just because you are a super-brilliant white guy and in the Clinton years that was a no no. <br />Go sell your bull shit somewhere else son, I ain't buying it.PilotXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-30123407372027280732011-07-05T21:50:40.964-04:002011-07-05T21:50:40.964-04:00"Ignorance is a problem with all races in thi..."Ignorance is a problem with all races in this country."<br /><br />You can thank the NEA for that.Union Teachernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-41899225008701454222011-07-05T21:46:28.699-04:002011-07-05T21:46:28.699-04:00"Aren't you the nitwit who claims that co..."Aren't you the nitwit who claims that compared with students in other countries American students don't know anything about science and math?"<br /><br />Uhhhhh, different point Slappz, keep up. My point was the last generation benefitted from these programs and helped build this country into what it is today and now the government is full of dimwitted conservatives that want to teach creationism. You don't follow along too well Slappz. Not too bright huh?<br /><br />"Of course the true story is that SOME Americans -- I won't mention their race -- know next to nothing about science and math, but others know so much they're jamming the halls of MIT, Stanford, CalTech and a long list of other superb science and engineering schools."<br /><br />Kinda sorta but not really. Many engineering and math students are from Asia. Not to many native born Americans but I know what you're implying but there aren't too many white Americans filing the halls of MIT, Cal Tech ect. The average white American doesn't know why sound travels more efficiently through water than air and trust me I've asked alot of white people and most don't know. <br />Ignorance is a problem with all races in this country.PilotXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-87692191801520689822011-07-05T21:41:09.469-04:002011-07-05T21:41:09.469-04:00"The National Defense Education Act (NDEA), s..."The National Defense Education Act (NDEA), signed into law on September 2, 1958, provided funding to United States education institutions at all levels.[1] The act authorized funding for four years, increasing funding per year: for example, funding increased on eight program titles from 183 million dollars in 1959 to 222 million in 1960.[2] While motivated by the increase in the number of students attending college and a growing national sense that U.S. scientists were falling behind scientists in the Soviet Union, it was arguably catalyzed by early Soviet success in the Space Race, notably the launch of the first-ever satellite, Sputnik, the year before."<br /><br />Gee more proof you're wrong.<br /><br />"The NDEA was influenced by the Soviet launch of the satellite Sputnik on October 4, 1957. The launch shook the American belief that the United States was superior in math and science to all other countries. U.S. citizens feared that schools in the USSR were superior to American schools, and Congress reacted by adding the act to take US schools up to speed."<br /><br />Coincidence that there was more funding for science and math after the launch of Sputnik? Just admit you were wrong and let's be done with this.PilotXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-47562569821270383522011-07-05T21:40:29.069-04:002011-07-05T21:40:29.069-04:00pilotX,
Basic physics, chemistry and math have no...pilotX,<br /><br />Basic physics, chemistry and math have not changed in a hundred years. You have to get beyond undergraduate tech studies before you have a chance to break into new territory.<br /><br />Frankly, high school and college textbooks for physics, chemistry and calculus from the 1940s contain the same information as today's texts. <br /><br />The new ones look nicer and they contain some friendlier text, but same old same old.no_slappzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04207475509053402475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-52694809315002327182011-07-05T21:35:58.586-04:002011-07-05T21:35:58.586-04:00pilotX writes:
The space race was on, and only a...pilotX writes:<br /><br /><i> The space race was on, and only a highly educated group of homegrown scientists and engineers could get Americans to the moon ahead of the Russians.</i><br /><br />Yeah. What a race. The "Russians" might put a man on the Moon in, oh, maybe, another 20 or 40 or 60 years. But they'll leave him there.<br /><br /><i> For the first time, education in the United States became a major federal imperative.</i><br /><br />Hardly.<br /><br /><i>The government, perceiving a national crisis, turned to the young National Science Foundation, which had established strong ties to the country's research universities.</i><br /><br />Yep. The government got into funding science and engineering.<br /> <br /><i>With the National Defense Education Act of 1958, Congress called upon NSF to attend to kindergarten through twelfth-grade (K-12) education in mathematics and science.</i><br /><br />Aren't you the nitwit who claims that compared with students in other countries American students don't know anything about science and math?<br /><br />Of course the true story is that SOME Americans -- I won't mention their race -- know next to nothing about science and math, but others know so much they're jamming the halls of MIT, Stanford, CalTech and a long list of other superb science and engineering schools. <br /> <br /><i>Later, Congress explicitly added social studies to the mandate"</i><br /><br />Yeah. This misguided move put black studies on the academic map.no_slappzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04207475509053402475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-12002187604205495402011-07-05T21:27:10.611-04:002011-07-05T21:27:10.611-04:00pilotX writes:
Because we all know every woman wh...pilotX writes:<br /><br /><i>Because we all know every woman who has an abortion is just waiting to be included in the count. Sick.</i><br /><br />In this country we count everything. We practice taxonomy. We collect data and we analyze it. When it comes to abortion, we know the score.no_slappzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04207475509053402475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-20518534957200378772011-07-05T21:23:36.660-04:002011-07-05T21:23:36.660-04:00pilotX jabbers:
Many products are in commercial u...pilotX jabbers:<br /><br /><i>Many products are in commercial use today as a direct result of NASA science and technology research. These range from kidney dialysis machines, athletic shoe manufacturing techniques, insulation materials for automobiles, water filtration technologies, freeze dried foods, computer innovations and many more." </i><br /><br />There's no evidence beyond these hyped claims that NASA developed any of the above technologies and then handed them over to commercial enterprises. <br /><br />Let's get serious. Have you read of any astronauts who went into space for their kidney dialysis?<br /><br />Is Nike making shoes in outer space? Moreover, it's amusing that you think making sneakers is high-tech stuff.<br /><br />Most important is the fact that computer advances were driven by factors that had nothing to do with the space program.<br /><br />Bottom line -- all of the advances were happening with or without the space program.no_slappzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04207475509053402475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-18152041665606082942011-07-05T21:15:35.556-04:002011-07-05T21:15:35.556-04:00PilotX said...
"The Clintons established a &q...PilotX said...<br />"The Clintons established a "no more white male" hiring policy in the 90's, and the agency has never recovered."<br /><br />And of course you have proof of this right?<br />---------<br /><br />First hand experience. NASA wanted to hire me in 1996 but couldn't, because I was a white male. Instead, I had to be hired by NOAA and used on loan to NASA. Eventually I got sick of the BS and left to a university position. Many others have left too.Ben Wayan IIInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-73826905358274191772011-07-05T21:12:23.816-04:002011-07-05T21:12:23.816-04:00"Even the abortion numbers are staggeringly l..."Even the abortion numbers are staggeringly lopsided"<br /><br />Because we all know every woman who has an abortion is just waiting to be included in the count. Sick.PilotXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-69543715454686223192011-07-05T21:08:37.942-04:002011-07-05T21:08:37.942-04:00"The Clintons established a "no more whi..."The Clintons established a "no more white male" hiring policy in the 90's, and the agency has never recovered."<br /><br />And of course you have proof of this right?PilotXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-83824211606030528372011-07-05T21:07:51.544-04:002011-07-05T21:07:51.544-04:00You know what Ben, that can be a topic for another...You know what Ben, that can be a topic for another time but I am specifically responding to a specific poster who did not believe 1. the space race achieved much scientifically or commercially and 2. the launch of Sputnik did not prod the country to invest in science and math curricula both pretty much disproven. Your issue with NASA having done nothing in the last 20 years is also debatable but beyond the scope of this debate. If you wish you can take your case directly to the head of NASA and complain about the lack of white male employees.PilotXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-4789812533279527872011-07-05T21:02:32.808-04:002011-07-05T21:02:32.808-04:00PilotX said...
"Years and years of affirmativ...PilotX said...<br />"Years and years of affirmative action hiring has dumbed down the agency to where they can hardly get a satellite in orbit"<br /><br />And of course you have proof of this right? Or would this just be another racist innuendo?<br />----<br /><br /><br />What has NASA accomplished lately?<br /><br />The Clintons established a "no more white male" hiring policy in the 90's, and the agency has never recovered.Ben Wayan IIInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-6441942041882121192011-07-05T20:59:51.236-04:002011-07-05T20:59:51.236-04:00PilotX said...
"What innovations has NASA com...PilotX said...<br />"What innovations has NASA come up with lately? As in the past 20 years?"<br /><br />Not the point sir. Try to keep up.<br />------<br /><br />No, the point is on your head.<br /><br />NASA was once the employer of the best and brightest but today has turned into a collossal waste of money. There is no more space program; Obama killed the last of it off so he could use the remants of the agency to rub muslim nuts.Ben Wayan IIInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-59906922788615796722011-07-05T20:57:55.059-04:002011-07-05T20:57:55.059-04:00"Years and years of affirmative action hiring..."Years and years of affirmative action hiring has dumbed down the agency to where they can hardly get a satellite in orbit"<br /><br />And of course you have proof of this right? Or would this just be another racist innuendo?PilotXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-88102575679588985712011-07-05T20:55:27.939-04:002011-07-05T20:55:27.939-04:00"What innovations has NASA come up with latel..."What innovations has NASA come up with lately? As in the past 20 years?"<br /><br />Not the point sir. Try to keep up.PilotXnoreply@blogger.com