tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post2170793891327764855..comments2024-03-18T22:34:29.437-04:00Comments on field negro: Rapper's Delight.field negrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-329114419855591422008-02-09T17:10:00.000-05:002008-02-09T17:10:00.000-05:00404- I coded it because clearly some people on her...404- I coded it because clearly some people on here are sensitive about this issue. While I could give a care less about some letters put together to form a word, some people do. I was trying to be considerate. But it's shaping up to be a case of "Damned if you do and damned if you don't"...<BR/><BR/>West Coast - For the record, I'm 25. The e-mail addy is from a long time ago...And whether you agree with it or not, freedom is the basis of America. So yes, I do feel as if I should be able to speak in whatever manner I so choose and I in turn will respect your right to do the same. In my household, cursing was not treated as a big deal. Therefore I don't see it as such. And like I said before, if PARENTS would raise their children instead of worrying about everything else under the sun, they wouldn't have to worry about such silly and mundane things as this because they would know that they raised their children to adhere to the values that they have been raised to exhibit.grownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13989752753090639983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-42027887246648452022008-02-09T14:13:00.000-05:002008-02-09T14:13:00.000-05:00I think grown should post his/her age. Anyone who...I think grown should post his/her age. Anyone who has to say they are grown is probably not really. <BR/><BR/>In any event, read grown's post and note that this is at the core of what is the matter not only with black folks but with too many folks in the US. The script goes something like:<BR/><BR/>This is America. I can say whatever I choose. What I do and say has no impact on others. And even if it does, I don't give a flying fark because this is America and I can say whatever I want to. <BR/><BR/>Of course, if YOU say something I don't like, I get to go running to the press or the internet and tell the world what a racist/bigoted/anti-semitic/sexist/intolerant/disrespectful piece of waste you are. Just like Jello, there's always room for hyprocrisy in America.west coast storyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16833809632143106334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-23505556144380990732008-02-08T02:39:00.000-05:002008-02-08T02:39:00.000-05:00I don't have kids (yet), but if I do have them, I ...I don't have kids (yet), but if I do have them, I will deal with the cursing situation they way my parents did. They used it as teaching moments. They pointed out that using curse words in public is low-class behavior. They also pointed out that people who curse with every other word don't get taken seriously. Also, if you let curse words become part of your everyday language (as opposed to something that slips out in anger), it can get you in a lot of trouble. <BR/><BR/>I have a friend who curses so much in daily life, that it's affected her job. In the middle of a conversation at work one day, she let a curse word out and a supervisor heard it. It led to a suspension with no pay. I've also noticed she's been passed up on several chances for advancement, and it's probably due to her language.<BR/><BR/>You can't stop most people from acting a fool in public, but people can teach their children not to imitate fools.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-46169079399590183442008-02-07T21:44:00.001-05:002008-02-07T21:44:00.001-05:00I think the free speech [no matter what]libertaria...I think the free speech [no matter what]libertarian folks have won me over. <BR/><BR/>But I reserve the right to change my mind after my first child. <BR/><BR/>grown, that comment was too funny:)field negrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-19639968258092964982008-02-07T21:44:00.000-05:002008-02-07T21:44:00.000-05:00Grown - Tell me why you "coded" the profanity in y...Grown - Tell me why you "coded" the profanity in your post?<BR/><BR/><BR/>Nelson - I imagine we can go back and forth about this, which is a good thing. But, you don't even have children. You may not see why that is necessary to understand my pov, but... thats because you don't have kids :-)LittleMissSolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15973515373520805737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-41284895681196300492008-02-07T21:27:00.000-05:002008-02-07T21:27:00.000-05:00404KimYou're still sticking to a fear of what othe...404Kim<BR/><BR/>You're still sticking to a fear of what other people think--rather than whether the activity in question is intrinsically dangerous. <BR/><BR/>While I don't have kids, and I do not completely rule out the possibility of change, I am fairly confident that the way I raise my child will be much more open about everything, because my own observations have shown me that a properly informed child will be better adjusted in the long run. <BR/><BR/>As for the video, the very fact that you can show it to me in a meaningful discussion of children demonstrates the importance of non-censorship. How does it make me feel? Like our sexually repressed society makes sex all the more taboo and attractive. In Europe, nudity and sex is much more readily available. They also tend to be much more open about talking about sexuality. As a result, they don't have the teen pregnancy rates we have. <BR/><BR/>So is the answer controlling information, or properly informing kids? In America, we don't see the alternative, so we stick to our ways, leading to two extremes: a Christian Puritanism versus the Commercialization of taboos. This is a self perpetualizing cycle, and with every push back is an equally strong response, leading to feel like it's a never ending battle. This will continue to happen as long as we voluntarily choose to live within the flawed dichotomy.Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01168659716980028654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-73117673168330632492008-02-07T20:59:00.000-05:002008-02-07T20:59:00.000-05:00@lisa:Are her kids going to grow up deviants becau...@lisa:<BR/><BR/><I>Are her kids going to grow up deviants because they heard some so called bad words? I highly doubt it.</I><BR/><BR/>lisa, I can predict what this woman's kids will or will not become, but this much I'm sure of:<BR/><BR/>What we hear and what we see impacts us more than we know: if that wasn't the case, corporations wouldn't spend millions on ad campaigns to persuade us to buy their products.<BR/><BR/>And Hollywood wouldn't continue in its efforts to socialize and desensitize Americans via films that seek to foster ideologies and values that they find acceptable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-19081316870493493522008-02-07T20:53:00.000-05:002008-02-07T20:53:00.000-05:00What the F@%k ever. This is total Bulls#$t. It m...What the F@%k ever. This is total Bulls#$t. It makes me so sick when parents try to be the moral police on other people. It's like because they had children, all of a sudden the world is supposed to cater to them. Let me be the first to say it: F#$k no!<BR/><BR/>Bottom line, if you raise your children to know right from wrong, they will act accordingly. Hearing some white boy rap curse words is not going to influence your kid one way or another. Hearing it at home from momma and daddy does. <BR/><BR/>Bottom line, raise your own d@#n children and stop worrying so much about what the f#$% comes out of my mouth. <BR/><BR/>And no I was not suprised to see it was a white boy. Who in the hell else would actually BUY a Boosie cd?grownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13989752753090639983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-17894916776575406582008-02-07T19:25:00.000-05:002008-02-07T19:25:00.000-05:00Anyone remember that Chappelle's Show skit about t...Anyone remember that Chappelle's Show skit about the show Trading Spouses? The 9 year old white kid who said "I'm a gangsta, G-G-G-G-G Unit!" and then his black daddy drove him to the hood, kicked him out of the car and said "If you're so gangsta, you'll have no problems surviving. Sell some rocks, I hear that's what they do out here. G-G-G-G-Goodbye!"Wooziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11637072916156389703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-45131511555961921292008-02-07T19:19:00.000-05:002008-02-07T19:19:00.000-05:00Nelson - You don't have kids therefore I feel conf...Nelson - <BR/><BR/>You don't have kids therefore I feel confident saying you cannot understand. You just can't <BR/><BR/><BR/>It's just like white people say there is no racism... <BR/><BR/><BR/>I had a friend who wasn't the best parent. When she talked to her children, every other word out her mouth was a curse word. She was mean, she yelled at them constantly, she was more interested in going out than spending time with them, she was always dropping them off somewhere so she wouldn't have to deal with them. She was more concerned with how she looked than how they looked. When she would take them to dinner, she'd order herself a big meal and make them share a kids me. She wasn't concerned about their behavior or their grades. Just all kinds of nonsense. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Now, if her kids are cussing at school because thats their environment, and my kid is cussing at school because he overheard some inconsiderate stranger dropping the F-bomb... someone might mistakenly compare my household and parenting to hers. When you work hard to bring your kids up properly, teach them manners, morals, stay up late with them every night to help with their homework, make sure they have a home cooked meal each night, talk to them and listen to them, give them guidance day in and day out, and do everything in your power to make sure they know they are loved - you DO NOT want to be viewed as a "bad parent" because it's HARD work being a good parent. <BR/><BR/><BR/>And if I may, I would disagree that the "cultural norm" says certain words shouldn't be said because they are bad... if anything, a responsible parent does not want their kids to follow the "cultural norm" because this culture we live in today promotes foul language, promiscuity, disrespect, ignorance, inconsideration, getting money, womanizing, and on, and on, and on.<BR/><BR/><BR/>There is a video right now on YouTube with these VERY YOUNG KIDS doing some very adult things on camera - fully clothed, but still inappropriate.<BR/><BR/>I know Field doesn't do the YouTube thing, but I'm going to post the link. I ask that you view it and let me know how you'd feel if this was your son or daughter.<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://sandrarose.com/2008/02/05/video-good-clean-wholesome-kids-at-play/<BR/><BR/>(sorry for the super long post)LittleMissSolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15973515373520805737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-80449190558500945342008-02-07T17:15:00.000-05:002008-02-07T17:15:00.000-05:00His race has nothing to do w/it...but I am surpris...His race has nothing to do w/it...but I am surprised it was a white kid.<BR/><BR/>Censor yourself in public. He could have rapped the song and simply refrained for the cursing parts.<BR/><BR/>Hometraining....can we make it required???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-84245777640629488782008-02-07T16:08:00.001-05:002008-02-07T16:08:00.001-05:00404Kim,You’ve hit on the number one reason we “pro...404Kim,<BR/><BR/>You’ve hit on the number one reason we “protect” children from these “bad” words when you ask, “How would that make you look as a parent?” <BR/><BR/>Parents <I>fear</I> looking bad. They don’t want to look bad because the cultural norm says certain words shouldn’t be said because they are bad. The cultural norm also falsely ascribes children’s behavior to their parents (Parents whose children say cuss words are bad parents). <BR/><BR/>So it’s a fear based on a cultural norm and a stereotype. <BR/><BR/>Cultural norms by themselves aren’t a good reason. What if a teacher calls you and says that your 12 year old son kissed another boy? That also makes you look bad because the cultural norm is that boys shouldn’t kiss boys. <BR/><BR/>So does it being a cultural norm make it right? Is “this is just how things are” a sufficient justification. I think on close inspection, no. <BR/><BR/>If there’s an additional justification that extends beyond it being a cultural norm, please tell me.<BR/><BR/>I don’t have kids but I’ve been in several grade schools and I hear cuss/curses/swear words a lot. But guess what, we used to say the same things on my schoolyard. And it certainly shouldn’t reflect on my parents. If 99% of people do that, oh well, they are just going along with a cultural norm and haven't questioned it beyond that. <BR/><BR/>So I do not judge parents on what words their kids say. Now the question is: should I be as judgmental as the rest of society or should society be as non-judgmental as me?<BR/><BR/>And again, I will reiterate 1) that these words are “bad” because we give them that significance and 2) that all children hear or use these words, even the youngest of the young and 3) that they don’t come out lesser for it.Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01168659716980028654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-6242855612042752008-02-07T16:08:00.000-05:002008-02-07T16:08:00.000-05:00Your right to say whatever you want in public, end...<I>Your right to say whatever you want in public, ends when it becomes a threat to public safety.</I><BR/><BR/>Public safety?<BR/>Public safety?<BR/>FOFLMAO! Using the word "motherfucker" is a threat to public safety?<BR/>You know, tryexcellence, back in the day, people could be fined and jailed if they frightened the horses by talking loudly.<BR/>What's next? Arresting victims of Tourette's Syndrome who can't stop cursing but need to do their grocery shopping and let a curse word slip while walking to the bus?Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15788931352232874850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-8625312859185016062008-02-07T15:53:00.000-05:002008-02-07T15:53:00.000-05:00~Also... have you blogged about the Henry Louis Ga...~<BR/>Also... have you blogged about the Henry Louis Gates special on PBS about the ancestry of a group of black celebrities? It was on last night? ...<BR/><A>joel said</A> 9:49 AM<BR/><BR/>I caught it too, Joel.<BR/><BR/>I was surprised when the family of wrongfully executed family members; <BR/>mentioned the Jee-Na 6:<BR/><BR/><I>Tonight, radio personality Tom Joyner will learn the story of how two of his great uncles and three other men - all African Americans - were executed in South Carolina on the same day in 1915 for the murder of a white Civil War veteran - a murder they almost certainly did not commit</I>.<BR/><A>http://www.thirteen.org/blogs/index.php?itemid=332</A><BR/><BR/>IMHO: No comparison.<BR/><BR/><A>http://www.nypost.com/seven/<BR/>02062008/tv/<BR/>whos_your_great__great_granddaddy__<BR/>338834.htm</A><BR/>`Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-56978331674280873832008-02-07T15:32:00.000-05:002008-02-07T15:32:00.000-05:00Delight on these:http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedc...Delight on these:<BR/><BR/>http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/<BR/>dws/dn/latestnews/stories/<BR/>020708dnmetjena6.9a8d95b2.html<BR/><BR/>http://www.kalb.com/index.php/<BR/>news/article/jena-6-member-arrested/3290/<BR/><BR/>http://www.chron.com/disp/<BR/>story.mpl/front/5521967.html<BR/>`Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-55183362852691257552008-02-07T14:30:00.000-05:002008-02-07T14:30:00.000-05:00I think the kid should have been cited for the con...I think the kid should have been cited for the continual use of the word "mf" in front of the child. If you are in public place, and are asked by someone to refrain from cursing or using offensive language, you need to stop. Your right to say whatever you want in public, ends when it becomes a threat to public safety. <BR/><BR/>Yeah perhaps the use of curse words don't cause folks to get upset and want to fight, but had this man used the "n-word," "b-word" or other offensive language, all hell might have broken lose. <BR/><BR/>If he wants to curse repeatedly, he needs to do so in the privacy of his car or home. Color is not the issue in this case, its decency.tryexcellencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261142317873268816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-11573545105835489062008-02-07T13:57:00.000-05:002008-02-07T13:57:00.000-05:00KIDS FREE - I dont think the man should have been ...KIDS FREE - I dont think the man should have been arrested, but he should have stopped using that language when the authorities asked him to. Yes the older child probably hears that kind of talk all the time, but what about the 4 year old? The boy should have shut up and moved on. <BR/><BR/>When I saw his ethnicity, I felt conflicting emotions. At first I wanted to laugh because when I read about his crime, I thought it might have been committed by a person of color. But, after I got over my amusement, I shook my head in disgust at the low level of cross-cultural exchange we have at this time in the US. <BR/><BR/>I know that this type of music is popular with the young folks. I know you see a lot of this stuff on MTV and the other video channels, so persons of other ethnicities are becoming to like it. But dang, is that all theyre getting of Black culture? Is that the extent of their education about the Black experience? It probably is, and thats what makes it so horrible.<BR/><BR/>Sorry for the long comment.<BR/><BR/>LLola Getshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07058543308191117858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-52307437084359163222008-02-07T13:06:00.000-05:002008-02-07T13:06:00.000-05:00I don't care what color the kid was, he shouldn't ...I don't care what color the kid was, he shouldn't have been arrested. But he should have had his feelings hurt for saying that nonsene out loud for other people to hear. Riding public transit has become an E ticket on the profanity express. I'm not a prude but I'm just sick to death of hearing it. <BR/><BR/>As for the t-shirt example, there's a difference between expressing an opinion and being vulgar. If the t-shirt had profanity in it, they could have been asked to leave. The mall is private property.west coast storyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16833809632143106334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-43587247511095376162008-02-07T11:38:00.000-05:002008-02-07T11:38:00.000-05:00I don't walk around spouting lyrics but when my fr...I don't walk around spouting lyrics but when my friends and I are walking down the street we curse like sailors. That's just how we talk. If someone gets offended oh well. I try to be conscious of real small children but 14?? Yeah fucking right.Foofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11490919763408427647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-43701391336056032232008-02-07T11:28:00.000-05:002008-02-07T11:28:00.000-05:00I HAVE A REQUEST PLEASE - Before you post your com...I HAVE A REQUEST PLEASE - Before you post your comment, please state whether you have kids or not.LittleMissSolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15973515373520805737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-48902049532334954902008-02-07T11:27:00.000-05:002008-02-07T11:27:00.000-05:00Some of you just sound WAY too uptight. Is it real...Some of you just sound WAY too uptight. Is it really that serious? So he said motherfucker? Oh the horror! I don't understand why people spend their time and energy getting pissed off about words. They only have power because we give them power. Are her kids going to grow up deviants because they heard some so called bad words? I highly doubt it. Maybe I wasn't born with the gene that allows me to get offended by stupid shit but some of really y'all crack me up. Loosen up, I promise you'll love it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-89883035957186652642008-02-07T11:04:00.000-05:002008-02-07T11:04:00.000-05:00Is there a real justification for turning bad mann...Is there a real justification for turning bad manners into a crime?<BR/><BR/>You may rest well assured that any law used to crack down on "drive-by cussin'" will be used to crack down on <I>black</I> "drive-by cussers." <BR/><BR/>Victimless crimes give police and prosecutors <I>tremendous</I> "discretionary" powers; and we know who will benefit from that discretion-- and who will suffer for it.<BR/><BR/>What <I>should</I> happen is that the boy's mouth get washed out with soap BY HIS MAMA, but it's probably way too late for that.<BR/><BR/>But <I>jail</I>? Might I remind you of all the semi-corrupt prosecutors (like that in Jena, Louisians) who will find a way to charge black kids and let white kids off? (and yes, I know that in this case it was a white kid who did the cussin', but every one of you knows good and damn well that given the opportunity white cops and white prosecutors will hammer black kids far out of proportion for the same thing.)<BR/><BR/>So put me down with the "no-jail" option: Lady, get a fookin' <I>life</I>!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-27372199463996908032008-02-07T09:59:00.000-05:002008-02-07T09:59:00.000-05:00hmmmnnnn...interesting...on many levels...i think ...hmmmnnnn...interesting...on many levels...i think being locked up is excessive...is the mother also calling the police on the homeless men on the street who walk around cursing indiscriminately, sometimes at the top of their lungs?...are you going to arrest the youth on the train using foul language or the angry businessman cursing the fall-through of a business plan?...what if they are cursing in another language?...filha da puta!!!!!!!!!...<BR/><BR/>...why isn't the rapper lil boosie and his recording company held responsible for the recording and releasing of such crap?...<BR/><BR/>...i guess i need more details...but where was this dork rapper-wannabe and where were the ladies' children?...weird case indeed...although i agree there is a time and place for certain language and expression of certain views, this seems a bit outlandish...<BR/><BR/>...what's more scary is the erosion of so-called freedoms/rights...so if i am on the phone discussing the fuckery carried out by bush and friends and a republican happens to hear me and take offense, i may be liable to go to jail?...makes me wonder what the real message or point 'they' are trying to drive home, i'm sure of which fear is one...guerreiranigerianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13528694326611103860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-21574336867651210072008-02-07T09:54:00.000-05:002008-02-07T09:54:00.000-05:00My opinion wouldn't change REGARDLESS of color. I...My opinion wouldn't change REGARDLESS of color. I'm in a predominately black area. I'm black. I CAN'T stand hearing folks walking down the street spewing today's rap lyrics. "Yo, bitch....suck my dick...lick my azz..." BET plays a video by an artist called Black Jesus the song is called "What that thang smell like" The lyrics are horrific. Too many of us educated negroes and liberal whites make way too many excuses for this junk. That's what these kids are rappin' these days. They're not rappin' "Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall" <BR/><BR/>Yes, I needed to get that graphic because that's what I hear. It disgusts me and I find it unacceptable to say that stuff around kids. What you do inside your home is your business but once you get outside it's another story. Yes, I have a right to call the police. You're disturbing my peace!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-52398735870631797572008-02-07T09:49:00.000-05:002008-02-07T09:49:00.000-05:00Field: We're gonna arrest people for cursing now? ...Field: <BR/>We're gonna arrest people for cursing now? Wow. We must have too many jail cells and not enough warm bodies to fill 'em. <BR/><BR/>Also... have you blogged about the Henry Louis Gates special on PBS about the ancestry of a group of black celebrities? It was on last night? My wife made me turn off an excellent USA vs. Mexico football match to watch it and I wasn't disappointed. Excellent way to bring the U.S.'s jacked up history to life.Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10452179825081269729noreply@blogger.com