tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post3289600660538902914..comments2024-03-28T23:32:05.817-04:00Comments on field negro: My heart is in Jenafield negrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-1639577526985355432007-09-21T19:54:00.000-04:002007-09-21T19:54:00.000-04:00"What the fuck is your problem?What kind of black ..."What the fuck is your problem?<BR/>What kind of black person are you? Or are you black? Are you a plant like my man field said? "<BR/><BR/>Dirty red...you weren't speaking to me, but I found this disturbing. Everyone has a right to their opinion and we should be encouraging dialogue about this and asking black people to think not appealing to populism and calls for racial group-think.<BR/><BR/>Nsangoma brought up issues that we need to know and need to discuss.<BR/><BR/>These kids were not fighting "the KKK" they are not Emmitt Tille, this march was not like the March on Selma and this is not 1967.<BR/><BR/>Was something slick going on...? Most definitely, but don't try to turn thugs into saints to support your political/social beliefs...and blow things up.<BR/><BR/>Fact is the fact some stupid kids hung a noose on a tree (three or two) does not mean black people have to react like animals. We have self control. We are better than redneck trash or we should be. They are not the standard we should measure ourselves by. Running around half cocked beating down any white person we think "disrespected us" is simply wrong.<BR/><B><BR/>The injustice came in how the crime was handled, but it was a crime, don't forget that.</B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-88045757454680956362007-09-21T19:49:00.000-04:002007-09-21T19:49:00.000-04:00My Take1) I feel these kids were rail roaded and m...<B>My Take</B><BR/><BR/>1) I feel these kids were rail roaded and made an example of due to the racial tension in the community and the previous fights. That is wrong. I feel the only one who should be doing real time is Bell, but as a juvenile, not an adult. He is a troubled young man. The rest should get time served and let go ASAP.<BR/><BR/>2) That being said this fight on school property had nothing to do with the nooses, although that added to racial tension as the children were not expelled, and they should have been.<BR/><BR/>3) Two of the Jena 6 were in a fight off school property when trying to crash a party (which had blacks) just not them...it was invitation only. They were asked to leave and when they did not a group of white guys went outside and fought them.<BR/><BR/>4) A little while later there was a fight with a few white people (one who was at the party) and one of the Jena 6 people (reportedly) outside a convenience store, Gotta Go.<BR/><BR/>5) Bell was friends with some of the folks who got in a fight and thought the white kid they jumped, knocked unconscious, and then repeatedly stomped was involved in one of the previous fights and had taunted them. IT was not the same guy. The guy who was stomped was not involved.<BR/><BR/>Now the victim was no angel either, as he was kicked out of school for a little while for bringing a hunting rifle on school grounds the year before, but there is no evidence he was involved in any noose hanging, racial fights, etc. It was a case of mistaken identity.<BR/><BR/>5) <B>The prosecutors was wrong to charge them as an adult for second degree battery</B> (which was reduced from attempted murder, however <B>Bell's attorney was black and the jury was only white because the jury pool was white...BECAUSE blacks did not show up for jury duty. </B><BR/><BR/>6) <B>My conclusion:</B> I feel these kids got railroaded but I also think due to the seriousness of the crime the kids should have been charged with something, but as juvaniles...Bell deserves to be in jail but not for the time he got.<BR/><BR/>Also the prosecutor is still charging the other kids.<BR/><BR/>7) Feds came in and investigated and concluded that there was no direct connection to the nooses and the fight involving the Jena 6, in fact on campus there had been no racial incident in the time in between (which I believe was about 3 months).<BR/><BR/>I think that although this case reveals racial bias, I am sad that these kids (who I consider thugs) are the poster children for it. Reality is most black and white kids in the town were not fighting anyone. Things were chill for most people although there might have been tension.<BR/><BR/>All of these kids who were involved in all this fighting (but for the victim I mentioned who was not involved) consider thugs...sorry.<BR/><BR/>yes, like Nsagoma asked, I wonder where their parents (plural) were.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-29362963932400914092007-09-21T06:58:00.000-04:002007-09-21T06:58:00.000-04:00"She's is also a regular commenter on the Afronerd..."She's is also a regular commenter on the Afronerd blog. In other words, she's your typical Jesse Lee Peterson conservative." <BR/><BR/>Nuff said 0: <BR/><BR/>Thanks for that update on our friend anon. I hope she keeps coming back though, altough I doubt if she would be able to last too long out here ;)field negrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-71945288563083921462007-09-21T02:45:00.000-04:002007-09-21T02:45:00.000-04:00I don't think nsangoma is a plant. She commented o...I don't think nsangoma is a plant. She commented on the Jena 6 on jackandjillpolitics some time ago. It may have been a little on my part, but I baited her by asking if she thought she was genetically superior to the Jena 6. Here's her answer:<BR/><BR/>"Please disabuse me of my feelings of genetic superiority".<BR/><BR/>"Were the biological fathers of any of these 6 Negroe males married to their biological mothers?" <BR/><BR/>"For there is a difference betwixt saying: <BR/><BR/>that my baby daddy, and <BR/><BR/>that is my husband, the father of my children".<BR/><BR/>"Did the biological fathers of these six Negroe males have anything to do with their..."<BR/><BR/><BR/>She's is also a regular commenter on the Afronerd blog. In other words, she's your typical Jesse Lee Peterson conservative.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-44963262720363560192007-09-21T00:49:00.000-04:002007-09-21T00:49:00.000-04:00"as for anon. being "appalled by my rediculous blo..."as for anon. being "appalled by my rediculous blog", I am guessing that anon. is some frustrated white guy, living in a large urban area, who has a serious fear of a black planet. Like nsangoma, he is missing the entire point. <BR/>___________________________________<BR/>My turn! My turn!<BR/><BR/>Just an assbackwards poor ignorant hillbilly trash that really believe America belongs to white people & the blacks are effing it up! He's just another df! But.... that's just me!SouthernGirl2https://www.blogger.com/profile/01829901840187884140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-44120983899123975562007-09-20T23:30:00.000-04:002007-09-20T23:30:00.000-04:00Thanks hathor!Thanks hathor!field negrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-59160285116409594212007-09-20T23:11:00.000-04:002007-09-20T23:11:00.000-04:00nsangoma and anonymous,To refresh your memory I th...nsangoma and anonymous,<BR/>To refresh your memory I think this would qualify as a <A HREF="http://www.cnn.com/US/9902/23/dragging.death.03/" REL="nofollow">lynching,</A> as James Byrd Jr. was dragged to death in <B>1998</B> not <B>1898.</B><BR/><BR/>Nooses are not forgotten.Hathorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12657524404057819428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-39624268463488711852007-09-20T22:59:00.000-04:002007-09-20T22:59:00.000-04:00I bet NSangoma and the "appalled" anon would have ...I bet NSangoma and the "appalled" anon would have no problem having those kids who hung the noose around the tree in their "hood." You're more than welcome to have them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-23036277474285600432007-09-20T22:58:00.000-04:002007-09-20T22:58:00.000-04:00nsangoma,I didn't know the juvenile records were o...nsangoma,<BR/>I didn't know the juvenile records were open to the public eye. If they are not and why have they have been leaked, is it so you can feel justified? That starts the unequal treatment, if were not legal to release those records. I am not a lawyer so I wouldn't know. Having all this information for what purpose, the only purpose I see is to continue to vilify those boys. They can't be angry, have any rage,be provoked and certainly nothing could be done before any of the anger and rage got out of hand. It was said the the black students were told to ignore the nooses. No one thinks to tell the Jew to ignore the intention of swastika. No. Only black people have to be indifferent to our treatment as if we are Zombies (slaves).<BR/>I still would like to know what any of your references have to do with equal justice. Now, the racist bloggosphere is going to try the case. I do think most people here know a lot more facts than you. So we really don't need a history lesson.Hathorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12657524404057819428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-91097180193035457072007-09-20T22:57:00.000-04:002007-09-20T22:57:00.000-04:00nsangoma, thanks for your research and pronounceme...nsangoma, thanks for your research and pronouncements. At least now we know what the "red neck" talking points are. Of course, as is usually the case with the ignorant, you ar efocusing on the trees and not the forest. This case is not about Mychal Bell, it's about justice, and a Southern town that didn't get the memo that they should at least pretend that racism no longer exists in A-merry-ca.<BR/><BR/>hathor, of course equal justice is worth marching for, and I think most people commenting here---yourself included, because I know your question was rhetorical--know that.<BR/><BR/>as for anon. being "appalled by my rediculous blog", I am guessing that anon. is some frustrated white guy, living in a large urban area, who has a serious fear of a black planet. Like nsangoma, he is missing the entire point. <BR/><BR/>What's sad, is that this guy---anon---is probably some future leader or some shit ;)field negrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-13098525238705343582007-09-20T22:26:00.000-04:002007-09-20T22:26:00.000-04:00"According to court documents, someone hit Barker ..."According to court documents, someone hit Barker from behind, knocking him out, and then others began to kick and stomp his "lifeless" body. He spent about three hours in a local emergency room for treatment of injuries to his head and face.<BR/><BR/>Three months prior to that attack, <A>Bell committed two violent crimes while on probation for a Christmas Day battery in 2005,</A> according to testimony. Later that same week, he led the Jena Giants to a shutout victory in a football game against the Buckeye Panthers.<BR/><BR/>Bell was adjudicated -- the juvenile equivalent to a conviction -- of battery on Sept. 2 and criminal damage to property on Sept. 3, said Cynthia Bradford, LaSalle Parish deputy clerk.<BR/><BR/>A few days later, on Sept. 8, Bell rushed 12 times for 108 yards and scored three touchdowns -- one of the best performances of the year for the standout athlete."<BR/>http://www.thetowntalk.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070825/NEWS01/708250317/1002<BR/><BR/>"While it’s undisputed that Mychal Bell was an honor roll student, it is now also proved that he had a criminal record, <A>including violent crimes, starting two years before the Justin Barker beating.</A><BR/><BR/>Battery - 12/25/2005<BR/>Criminal damage to property - 7/25/2006<BR/>Battery - 9/2006<BR/>Criminal damage to property - 9/2006<BR/>This explains the fact that Bell’s bail was much higher than the others."<BR/>http://pursuingholiness.com/2007/08/28/the-jena-6-mychal-bells-criminal-history/<BR/><BR/>"As expected, the media picks up Mychal Bell's juvenile history to distract from the nooses hanging from the "white" tree and the punishments applied to the black students and no punishment for the white students.<BR/><BR/>Prosecutor: "Jena Six" defendant had four juvenile convictions<BR/>8/25/2007, 6:36 p.m. CDT<BR/>The Associated Press <BR/>JENA, La. (AP) — The teenager convicted of beating a student at Jena High School in December 2006 had been convicted as a juvenile for attacking someone a year earlier, <A>then committed three more crimes while on probation for that one, prosecutors say.</A><BR/><BR/>That makes Mychal Bell's aggravated second-degree battery conviction <B>his fifth conviction for a violent crime,</B> state District Judge J.P. Mauffray Jr. said Friday.<BR/><BR/>Because of that record, the judge said, he will not reduce the $90,000 bond he set for Mychal Bell, one of six black students arrested in the attack which left a white student bleeding and unconscious."<BR/>http://www.vanessabyers.net/video/index.html<BR/>`Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-20445182633789831802007-09-20T22:07:00.000-04:002007-09-20T22:07:00.000-04:00^^^^ i see dirty red needs to come curse somebody ...^^^^ i see dirty red needs to come curse somebody else out....anonymous people sure have balls.<BR/><BR/>field's blog ridiculous? okay.Muzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02388312176758739005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-47084453136801184202007-09-20T22:00:00.000-04:002007-09-20T22:00:00.000-04:00TROLL.TROLL.Jazzyladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09337622760156848928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-36166133437357779392007-09-20T20:47:00.000-04:002007-09-20T20:47:00.000-04:00Isn't Equal Justice worth marching for.Isn't Equal Justice worth marching for.Hathorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12657524404057819428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-18173888001025517972007-09-20T20:22:00.000-04:002007-09-20T20:22:00.000-04:00Field,I am absolutely appalled by your ridiculous ...Field,<BR/><BR/>I am absolutely appalled by your ridiculous blog! You are praising criminals. How can you make these thugs into martyrs? Is this what our great leader Dr Martin Luther King would preach? These thugs assaulted a boy who was severly outnumbered and required him to be admitted into a hospital.. If they were real men they would have tried to peacefully resolve their differences. Your mentality is why the city you live in is under siege. Our black men must be shown how to use other conflict resolution methods besides violence. Maybe you should educate yourself with the writings of King and Ghandi. These men are true hero’s. Instead you praise the propaganda being served by poverty pimps such as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson in LA. These men are flying leer jets for free to exploit any situation to their benefit. They undermine hard working successful black men. As for your B.S. about wearing black, well save it. A concerned citizen would have taken the time away from his schedule to praise a worthy cause. This leads me to believe you don’t really believe in this cause or are to concerned about your own interest. I can’t imagine the civil rights leaders missing the march on Washington because they had to go to work and they would miss their vanilla latte. <BR/>The last question I pose to this blog is what punishment would u recommend for the boys in this incident? I hope this blog doesn’t suggest the boys go free. Should have a mediation so these boys can learn the mistakes of their actions and the harm their actions have caused? I know the field would personally volunteer his time. I never have been so embarrassed as I am today with the comments of Field on this blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-49096827851574832452007-09-20T19:01:00.000-04:002007-09-20T19:01:00.000-04:00NSangoma What the fuck is your problem?What kind o...NSangoma <BR/>What the fuck is your problem?<BR/>What kind of black person are you? Or are you black? Are you a plant like my man field said? I think you need to back the fuck up and post your comments on Fox News. I know there are plenty of people that watch that bullshit that will share your point of view,but you gets nothing here but a sad shake of the head. Open up your eyes and get out of Mr. Charlies House you stupid-ass Negro!! Come out to the fields with the rest of us. It is not that hot out here,besides it sounds like a little sun might do your confused ass some good.<BR/><BR/>Field,<BR/>I couldn't make it down to Jena either. My job had me attending a mandatory Spanish class. But I was rocking my black today, and I mentioned Jena to anyone that would listen. Black Folk and White Folk. It surprised me how many white people did not know what was going on. It just proves that there are two America's. A black one and a white one.Dirty Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01508696230100618659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-10222118168190278632007-09-20T18:19:00.000-04:002007-09-20T18:19:00.000-04:00Black from head to toe, baby. I saw my brothers an...Black from head to toe, baby. I saw my brothers and sisters in portland representing as well. <BR/><BR/>It feels good to witness this solidarity.<BR/><BR/>-Caged LionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-5175915389173552322007-09-20T17:59:00.000-04:002007-09-20T17:59:00.000-04:00I had on a black shirt and grey slacks for a large...I had on a black shirt and grey slacks for a large portion of the day. By mid afternoon, I changed. It got a little too hot.<BR/><BR/>Next time, can we color co-ordinate? Maybe light blue...or perhaps more seasonally appropriate attire? Please? lol...<BR/><BR/>My asian co-worker asked, "Why are the black people wearing black...did someone die?" I explained the situation. But uhh...maybe we should wear grey next time. <BR/><BR/>But all in all, I was walking proudly in my black. It brought a smile to my face every time I saw a brotha or a sista in black. We need to unite like this more often.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-11576210190929826812007-09-20T17:44:00.000-04:002007-09-20T17:44:00.000-04:00I put on my black shirt a few minutes after I read...I put on my black shirt a few minutes after I read this post, though I don't have any black pants to go with them (ruined my last pair!)Connecticut Man1https://www.blogger.com/profile/08923884330387123010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-7367104959993783192007-09-20T16:44:00.000-04:002007-09-20T16:44:00.000-04:00FieldI'm also dressed head to toe in my black. I w...Field<BR/><BR/>I'm also dressed head to toe in my black. I wouldn't have missed it for the world. Although I couldn't be there in person, my heart is definitely in Jena.SouthernGirl2https://www.blogger.com/profile/01829901840187884140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-25048424193817227292007-09-20T16:31:00.000-04:002007-09-20T16:31:00.000-04:00Mychal Bell, Genarlow Wilson, Shaquanda 'nem welco...Mychal Bell, Genarlow Wilson, Shaquanda 'nem welcome in your hood too, Field<BR/>`Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-41132418834802454622007-09-20T16:26:00.000-04:002007-09-20T16:26:00.000-04:00great job everyone. Jokes aside nsangoma translat...great job everyone. Jokes aside nsangoma translates to 'full of evil' in my native language. How funny!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12396160623533614490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-16400843428710030152007-09-20T16:04:00.000-04:002007-09-20T16:04:00.000-04:00Way to go fam, I see everyone is black down today....Way to go fam, I see everyone is black down today. And I see we are all down in the "boot" (slang for Louisiana) in spirit. I went to a nice rally today (out in the burbs no less) And it was all that!<BR/><BR/>I was also inspired by all the people who work in the court system here repping their black today. I even saw a couple of Judges of color out at lunch with their black.They commented on my outfit,I commented on theirs, and we gave each other a wink. Now that's what's up. <BR/><BR/>I suspect "nsangoma" is a plant from the Jena DA's office trying to ruin our day. Personally, I am not in the mood for ignorance. <BR/><BR/>Maybe tomorrow.field negrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-20123728731548165762007-09-20T15:48:00.000-04:002007-09-20T15:48:00.000-04:00zimbel, Shaquanda 'nem welcome too?`zimbel, Shaquanda 'nem welcome too?<BR/>`Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-38620629924107577612007-09-20T15:12:00.000-04:002007-09-20T15:12:00.000-04:00@NSangoma-Your question presumes:1) That there are...@NSangoma-<BR/><BR/>Your question presumes:<BR/>1) That there are no bullies in my kids' school,<BR/>2) That I have kids, and<BR/>3) That Mychal Bell is a bully.<BR/><BR/>At best, you have weak evidence for the third point (why is it weak? because the same system that created the Jena 6 created those prior convictions; furthermore, neither of us have information surrounding those incidents). The first point is, in my opinion, ludicrous. I've never heard of a school without bullies.<BR/><BR/>But, to answer a somewhat more useful question, no, I wouldn't have a problem with Mychal Bell and/or his family moving to my neighborhood. I think he'd face far more equitable justice here than in Jena.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com