tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post3419973826393226255..comments2024-03-28T13:14:09.150-04:00Comments on field negro: With friends like these....field negrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comBlogger86125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-54818165657844192812007-09-28T14:17:00.000-04:002007-09-28T14:17:00.000-04:00OT: Field,I'm having problems viewing your front p...OT: Field,<BR/><BR/>I'm having problems viewing your front page - it's like there was a bad server restore. The Sept. 20th entry is the most recent one, and the page claims 14 comments (there are far more than 14 comments here).<BR/><BR/>If you need help with recovery, give a shout out. Google Cache is often a pretty easy way to restore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-19265505453467981512007-09-27T16:41:00.000-04:002007-09-27T16:41:00.000-04:00Just an FYI, as a white progressive, I have been f...Just an FYI, as a white progressive, I have been following the Jena story for about 4 months on Democracy Now with Amy Goodman. I came to this website from www.crooksandliars.com. I don't know about Kos and don't really care. I do care about social justice and I love Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.<BR/><BR/>Free Mychal Bell!sitara68https://www.blogger.com/profile/11514296276355360085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-17969604908913561802007-09-24T12:44:00.000-04:002007-09-24T12:44:00.000-04:00...and there's the narrative, under construction....and there's the narrative, under construction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-61874694380078883622007-09-24T07:16:00.000-04:002007-09-24T07:16:00.000-04:00The idea that somehow Duke is a coverup simply bec...The idea that somehow Duke is a coverup simply because it goes against your own bigotry is ridiculous. The woman was out on her kids' school night, on alcohol and prescription drugs, and worked for an escort service. Duke was not her first "date" that night. Her irresponsibility further caused her to be pregnant and have a child earlier this year. <BR/><BR/>Her race has nothing to do with her false accusation, just as the player's race has nothing to do with their innocence.<BR/><BR/>She and Nifong took advantage of people with good hearts and that is unforgiveable. Ironically, the lawsuit that the former players have against the city of Durham includes reforms that will likely help people of color who might find themselves in a similar situation in the future.<BR/><BR/>I won't be surprised to see BOTH of the following headlines a few years from now:<BR/><BR/>FORMER JENA SIX MEMBER ARRESTED FOR MURDER<BR/><BR/>TRYING TO PIECE HIS LIFE TOGETHER YEARS AFTER BEING ONE OF THE JENA SIX<BR/><BR/>Supporters for or against people involved in the justice system, in their rush to judgment in praising or demonizing people associated with a case, often fail to see them as human beings with faults and merits that contradict the very evidence used to simplify their plights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-50472034254398233002007-09-24T04:20:00.000-04:002007-09-24T04:20:00.000-04:00Yeah, the black community sure did get burned by t...Yeah, the black community sure did get burned by the Duke incident. Nifong messed up, to be sure, but what primarily happened was that the media and the white community stepped in and constructed a narrative that exonerated those guys. I'm convinced that the real truth of what happened that night didn't get out there because it was obscured by the counter narrative. You can already see the same kind of thing being attempted with Jena. I don't think we're going to let that happen this time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-33980295039811821562007-09-23T22:44:00.000-04:002007-09-23T22:44:00.000-04:00Go to hell niggerWow. A few billion years of evol...<I>Go to hell nigger</I><BR/><BR/>Wow. A few billion years of evolution sure worked wonders in your case.<BR/><BR/>You embarrass the rest of humanity with comments like that. More importantly, you reinforce the stereotype that "conservatives wear their sheets instead of sleep in in them." <BR/><BR/>If you guys on the Right want to win friends, throwing the N-word around isn't going to do the job.Comrade Misfithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15404477636451308763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-37450936768945271662007-09-23T22:03:00.000-04:002007-09-23T22:03:00.000-04:00I heard the same accusations against white blogger...I heard the same accusations against white bloggers during the Duke scandal. I warned on blogs that it wasn't such a simple issue, and the truth could go either way. I was called a racist. <BR/><BR/>The stripper (who was a mother AND a prostitute) wasn't treated right at that party. There was at least one misogynist there, and a racist or two. And three other guys who didn't rape her. The fake Black Panthers marched. You know, who David Hilliard called racists.<BR/><BR/>The whole Duke incident made people leery about being vocal about legal situations where the full truth is not known, race be damned. There's plenty of normal-looking white guys (as opposed to the loner psychos) who might have killed their wife that I wouldn't go to bat for either. I warned that the Duke case would have an effect on the early judging of cases, and unfortunately I was right. The black community got burned by the Duke accusation. <BR/><BR/>White liberals will always be accused of being ingenuine. As a member of that group, I take it with a grain of salt, because there's close-minded people regardless of race in every aspect of our society. I've met a lot of Sherri Shepherds in my time.<BR/><BR/>That's what we really need, more generalizations and stereotypes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-71262290572664879322007-09-23T15:22:00.000-04:002007-09-23T15:22:00.000-04:00Kristo, I read the snopes link, and it doesn't con...Kristo, I read the snopes link, and it doesn't contain anything I didn't already know. I'm betting that most other people besides myself who marched, demonstrated, and are venting already know every actual fact (as opposed to opinion) presented in that article. And needless to say, if it wasn't for outside pressure, nothing positive in regard to this situation would have ever happened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-48138373326529037052007-09-23T13:48:00.000-04:002007-09-23T13:48:00.000-04:00Wow.Even more irrational anger here today, with as...Wow.<BR/><BR/>Even more irrational anger here today, with as yet no sense of what the problem is.<BR/><BR/>Luckily, details are available, you just have to look past the folks who have an axe to grind (as most posting here seem to).<BR/><BR/>Check this out:<BR/><BR/>http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/jena6.asp<BR/><BR/>Those of you protesting, marching, demostrating, or just venting on behalf of the "Jena 6" should just cool your jets. The evidence isn't all in, of course, but what is known paints a very ugly picture of these young men. Enough to warrant caution and letting the authorities sort this out methodically, without outside pressure.<BR/><BR/>Kristo MiettinenKristo Miettinenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11915769006991993189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-33569242922290912492007-09-23T12:36:00.000-04:002007-09-23T12:36:00.000-04:00I am from North Carolina and I thought this ingnor...I am from North Carolina and I thought this ingnorance would be over years ago.But I got two different perspectives this weekend.Me and my friend Ronny went to our old high school football game to se his nephew play. On the way, he asked me about The Jenna 6. I told him I couldn't believe in 2007 this BS was happening. He looked hurt and pissed about the whole thing, which cause me to hurt.This morning I go to get a coffee and run into an old man who I know well, after a while The Jenna 6 story came up and he started spouting the BS that Sean Shamity must have been spewing all week,<BR/>and I got a different emotion this time, anger! I still can't believe the racism in this country, Racism is the first sign of Ignorance. I'll stand with you against the MF'ers, this Country is supposed be a freakin Beacon? Let's Take the Power Back!!!!!!!!!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12197625208681131357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-75846955915405667672007-09-23T08:31:00.000-04:002007-09-23T08:31:00.000-04:00It doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to predict an I...It doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to predict an Instalanche. Though as a matter of fact, I am one.<BR/><BR/>I'm also Australian, and an Immigrant. I'm also a member of not one, but two minority groups that are persecuted to one degree or another in every country of the world. Often mildly, but persecuted all the same.<BR/><BR/>I'm clueless as to the problems of Blacks in the US; from what I gather, some places there's very little racism, in a few places, a lot.<BR/><BR/>Young Black Urban Males have a rate of being murdered 3 times the average, according to figures I've seen. One of my own minority groups has a rate 17 times the average, but as there are so few of us, there's far less in aggregate. But I might know what prejudice against Blacks is like, approximately.<BR/><BR/>Here's a (fictional) story from the Bad Old Days in the Deep South. <BR/><BR/><I>A Bus-driver got fed up of "passing or white", and thought the new laws on employment protection on the basis of race would be adequate. So he outed himself - and got fired.<BR/><BR/>The reason they gave was that there might possibly be some complaints if a Black was found using a White restroom - even though he looked White. The bus company didn't bother to check if there were any Black restrooms available on his route, they thought there might be a liability issue. So they didn't fire him for being Black, just in fear of liability. <BR/><BR/>That was their story. They won in court too, and won the appeal as well.</I><BR/><BR/>Course such a thing could never happen in the USA today, no, not even in the most benighted, racist county in the country.<BR/><BR/>Now go read http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_6959500Zoe Brainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13712045376060102538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-62650138807604623922007-09-23T05:22:00.000-04:002007-09-23T05:22:00.000-04:00Because Field uses the the F**k word, it's okay to...<EM>Because Field uses the the F**k word, it's okay to call him a nigger? What?!</EM><BR/><BR/>Welcome to the right's New Civility: All "bad" words are (1) equal in badness and (2) required to be evaluated in a super-special context-free zone.<BR/><BR/>Oh, Glenn. The gifts you keep on giving! I think you meant to throw those in with the recycling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-33044151751172127492007-09-23T04:30:00.000-04:002007-09-23T04:30:00.000-04:00peonista: For your information, the Afrospear has...peonista: For your information, the Afrospear has posted about those young women. Yes, Field is apart of the Afrospear... So, you were saying what?Angela L. Braden, Writer, Speaker, Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17473106954036686180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-23242111726794752172007-09-23T04:27:00.000-04:002007-09-23T04:27:00.000-04:00"I'm sorry about some right-oriented guys (instala..."I'm sorry about some right-oriented guys (instalaunched, like me) being poor guests, but your own use of the F* word encourages use of the N* (not Negro).<BR/>If a guest acts like the host, and the host says such "people are not being very good guests", I think the host is not so great." Tom<BR/><BR/>What the hell?<BR/><BR/>I usually don't respond to trolls, but... <BR/><BR/>Because Field uses the the F**k word, it's okay to call him a nigger? What?!<BR/><BR/>Ridiculous reasoning!!!Angela L. Braden, Writer, Speaker, Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17473106954036686180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-18794365508893925702007-09-22T22:50:00.000-04:002007-09-22T22:50:00.000-04:00I was dismayed as you were to not read more about ...I was dismayed as you were to not read more about Jena, on the progressive blogs.<BR/> On the other hand when the”Lesbian Seven,( seven young lesbian women from Newark, New Jersey, all of whom are either serving or will serve time in jail — up to 11 years – for their parts in an altercation which began when a man sexually harrassed them, approaching them in a menacing and intimidating way, taunting them with hate speech.), were in the news I looked on all the blogs for info on that. Same deal, top progressive blogs silent. Then I thought "Field Negro" I mean these women are black women. Damn not there either. Only place I found stuff about the 7 New Jersey women was on the feminist blogs and the gay blogs. <BR/>Seems like none of us is perfect.<BR/>I guess we need to educate each other, learn from our mistakes, and recognize who we have a chance at getting to stand for justice for ALL.<BR/>Go here for more info on the seven young African American lesbians run in with Jim Crow justice http://www.fiercenyc.org/updates_events/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-11332620585621939752007-09-22T22:45:00.000-04:002007-09-22T22:45:00.000-04:00How'd did all these 70 comments get on her, Field?...How'd did all these 70 comments get on her, Field? Sixty dweebs or one right wing dweeb writing sixty times? Just kidding. <BR/><BR/>But seriously now you do see that folks like Kos aren't so bad after all hahahahaChristopher Chambershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16981041389119024155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-12159286117442344712007-09-22T21:03:00.000-04:002007-09-22T21:03:00.000-04:00Ah. I should have just waited longer.While I was ...Ah. I should have just waited longer.<BR/><BR/>While I was typing my entry here, Glenn Reynolds was publishing a link to the answer on what exactly happened:<BR/><BR/>http://patterico.com/2007/09/22/reynolds-and-balko-on-the-jena-6/<BR/><BR/>The answer is #3.<BR/><BR/>Kristo MiettinenKristo Miettinenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11915769006991993189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-6493283087920967182007-09-22T20:21:00.000-04:002007-09-22T20:21:00.000-04:00OK, so help me out here:Everyone wants "justice". ...OK, so help me out here:<BR/><BR/>Everyone wants "justice". Great. What's the problem? I've read the comments here, and remain hopelessly underinformed.<BR/><BR/>Six guys commit violence against one guy, and get charged (initially) with attempted murder. Protesters march, the charges are reduced. What's the problem now?<BR/><BR/>Is the problem the charges faced by the noose-decoration guys, the original charges against the violent guys, or the current charges against the violent guys?<BR/><BR/>Or is there really no problem at all, apart from a desire to posture, play the victim, and have sympathizers fawn all over you?<BR/><BR/>If the answer to the latter is "no, that's not it", then seriously, what's the problem?<BR/><BR/>BTW, on the initial attempted-murder charges, is it obvious that those were inappropriate? The MSM are doing their usual thing, airbrushing away the relevant details, but those of you who seem to know everything, tell us: when the victim fell unconscious, what did the assailants do? Did they:<BR/><BR/>(1) Call 911 or otherwise attempt to help the victim;<BR/><BR/>(2) Realize that they had crossed a line and walk away;<BR/><BR/>(3) Continue the beating?<BR/><BR/>I'm no lawyer, but in my common-sense world response 3 calls for attempted murder charges, response 2 is more like negligent homicide, and response 1 is some form of assault. But what really happened?<BR/><BR/>Kristo MiettinenKristo Miettinenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11915769006991993189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-70702069126761777862007-09-22T19:29:00.000-04:002007-09-22T19:29:00.000-04:00Yes, i am a white American conservative with a few...Yes, i am a white American conservative with a few moderate opinions (and this happens to be one them), and yes i am part of the Instalanche, in which... you seem to come across as not caring very much for! But i am still very grateful he had linked to your site!<BR/><BR/>No, i am not very happy how this clusterf**k is turning out for everyone involved! None of this should even be tolerated by the more mature adults in this country, if there is any left!<BR/><BR/>The white kids invovled in the "noose in the tree" incident should "still" be held equally accountable for their actions, even more so as the primary instigators of this sordid mess, just like the black kids are still being held accountable for their actions, as i understand it so far! What was the big deal if they sat under the tree? That just boggles my mind, the callous actions they took!<BR/><BR/>This would have never even gotten very far if the school board had stuck to the original punishment of the white kids by expulsion as recommended by the principle, or in the very least... treating it as a crime as it appears to me! Instead of giving them a 3 day in-school suspension, WTF!?! I am not surprised that Americans on the other side of the color barrier, are as pi$$ed off as they are about this!<BR/><BR/>I also believe the adults in La., regardless of skin-color, political position or those within state government, who are involved in allowing this too get as far as it has, need to be held just as equally accountable, for their extreme failure in being the disciplinarians too the state's youth, in which... apparejntly they are sorley in need of! This is an instance where the adults need too be disciplined just as much as the kids do!<BR/><BR/>And finally, i believe justice will best be served, by not allowing all or any perpetrators, irrespective of skin color... who are involved in this "could have been easily avoided" mess; By not allowing them too get off the hook so easily or with a simple slap on the wirst! By actually doing something radical like, oh i don't know... treating this like criminal behavior?! Instead of shrugging it off as not part of anyones politcal agenda! No, i am not saying long jail terms for all involved; But make them realize the dire consequences of any future actions like this simply will not be tolerated in the very least, regardless of skin color!<BR/><BR/>I can tolerate extreme views, but i simply cannot tolerate rascist actions!!! I believe i have said enough! <BR/><BR/>Thanks for letting me get this off my chest!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-10190209513700383462007-09-22T19:01:00.000-04:002007-09-22T19:01:00.000-04:00I couldn't help noticing that someone way upthread...I couldn't help noticing that someone way upthread mentioned that you had experienced an "Instalanche" before the "Instalanche" actually started. Another striking comment I see is the one that gives credit to the white rightist blogosphere for bringing Jena to the attention of the mainstream media. That's bullshit, of course.<BR/><BR/>Yes, they were a few liberal blogs that were all over this story, but most of the more popular ones weren't. My question is...why is that something to complain about? As far as I'm concerned, it's cause for rejoicing. It means the the BLACK BLOGOSPHERE managed to accomplish a great thing without needing help or buy-in from anyone else. That's a wonderful thing! Now..what else can can be accomplished without having to ask other people to pay attention? <BR/><BR/>As for the "Instalanchers", what do you hope to accomplish with these comments here? There's something you're not understanding. That rigid left/right, conservative frame of yours is yours...not ours. We (by and large) don't fit into it, and don't buy it. Sorry. I think y'all know that, though. I think all you rightists are just here to vent your frustration because feel as if some black people have won a little something this week. You're right- we did:). And yes, when black people win, white rightists lose:).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-82631767456687442962007-09-22T17:59:00.000-04:002007-09-22T17:59:00.000-04:00Well, I'm part of the Instalanche too. And, though...Well, I'm part of the Instalanche too. And, though you've got a great point about the crickets chirping over at Kos and Hufpo, I'm not interested in jumping on the "See the bad lefties!" bandwagon.<BR/><BR/>I am glad that this is getting wider exposure. I've blogged a little and commented a lot - my current best thoughts <A HREF="http://jiblog.blogspot.com/2007/09/jena-6.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>. <BR/><BR/>We would not agree on a lot of things - I'm conservative, not Republican, and I have a hard time talking to people who think there's only a dichotomy at work, and its name is either leftard or rethuglican. I'm also pro-GWOT, for the good of the globe. I took this position long before the events of 9/11, and I have little wiggle room on it.<BR/><BR/>I also have the problem of passing for white with hidden African ancestry (look up the term Black Irish, and you'll find my great-granfather in the closet) while living in predominantly white areas in Calif. and Wisc. (except for the years spent in Oakland), and struggling with inequity and a too-well hidden undercurrent of racism.<BR/><BR/>I work at a tech college, and most of our students are white because it would be racist for high school counselors to suggest to black kids that they should consider the tech route as well as the full-blown liberal arts route. But our kids go on to get the good jobs, and run companies and the community because of their business focus and acumen. And they get a two-year head start doing it.<BR/><BR/>You also consider Jason Whitlock to be a house negro - and some of his comments, especially about only race-baitors drawing a line between the nooses and the Jena 6 incident, sounded a little too stilted - I think what he had to say about community was worthwhile.<BR/><BR/>So we wouldn't agree on much, and I'm clearly grappling with my own issues, but if you check that post at Jib's, you'll see that a grasp of justice isn't one of them.Jane Bellwetherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11745695053619001629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-16712481390553576592007-09-22T17:48:00.000-04:002007-09-22T17:48:00.000-04:00"I live in California, racism is something, I read..."I live in California, racism is something, I read about that happens somewhere else."<BR/><BR/>Bullshit. I was in Watts after Rodney King. California is a place where minorities are bought off for small change and kept in their place. If you want to go to a place where minorities have real power, you go to Atlanta.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-91762462395642427332007-09-22T17:40:00.000-04:002007-09-22T17:40:00.000-04:00First of all, the N* comment is not at the same ti...First of all, the N* comment is not at the same time and is just from another anonymous poster. It is not representative of Reynolds' site or the type of people to whom he appeals. The most likely source is a liberal disgruntled by the criticism of the lefty blogosphere (if you peruse their sites, you will find all kind of juvenile hate speech direct against anyone who dares question the party line) who wants to pose as a conservative to push the buttons that he believes will bring you crawling back to them. Liberals are expert at such fear-based manipulation. They've been doing it a long time to seniors, minorities, and other groups they want to keep down and marching in lock step to their tune.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-32818029951518331292007-09-22T17:19:00.000-04:002007-09-22T17:19:00.000-04:00"go to hell nigger""I'm part of the instalanche. I..."go to hell nigger"<BR/>"I'm part of the instalanche. I won't be back"<BR/><BR/>That is regrettable. Also the comments from the out of country folks lumping Katrina, Jena, and the supposed racial caldera ready to boil over any minute, characterising this as America, that too is regrettable.<BR/><BR/>Katrina was an example of the best of America coming forward to help in a terrible situation. But because the media are geared, much like Daily Kos, Atrios (no shit Atrios didn't even blog this? - mumbles under breath "race traitor"), My DD, and firedoglake (which I am proud to say I have never visited), to getting democrats elected.<BR/>So we heard horror stories - such as rape, pillage, and plunder - grim fairy tales of murder and pandemoneum in the Superdome - rescue workers being shot at from New Orleans rooftops - never mind that the only truly out of control individuals we saw were the New Orleans PD, and other elected officials, mayor, governor, congressmen from Louisianna.<BR/>The media painted that picture because it was the only way they could draw a negative out of a truly amazing outpouring of support by the rest of America.<BR/>They will race bait on any and all occasions, because if they don't Hillary Clinton is just an extortionist with a screechy voice<BR/> and bad instincts in men, who doesn't care where the money comes from to buy the presidency, be it organized crimelords in Florida or Chicom front men in California. <BR/><BR/>I live in California, racism is something, I read about that happens somewhere else. Where I grew up the school pictures look like the wide view of the "I'd like to teach the world to sing" Coke commercials.<BR/>I regret the broad brush treatment these incidents put on my America, and what it projects to the rest of the world.<BR/>By the way, Calif is open and always available if you get tired of it, and want to download from Louisiana. (I hear the housing bubble popped so it's a buyers market)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-57818939765642904522007-09-22T17:05:00.001-04:002007-09-22T17:05:00.001-04:00That racist comment is a setup. Go into your Sitem...That racist comment is a setup. Go into your Sitemeter and look, the comment was made by someone who did not come from Glenn's site.<BR/><BR/>Typical libs, if it's not racist, make it so. <BR/><BR/>Show your numbers at 2:45 and the truth will be known.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16009365546781588250noreply@blogger.com