tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post355657041296452883..comments2024-03-28T07:46:36.254-04:00Comments on field negro: A few words for the other Mr. Steele.field negrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-61527928601121599382011-05-26T22:05:15.776-04:002011-05-26T22:05:15.776-04:00Two thoughts on this post. Well, three. First, t...Two thoughts on this post. Well, three. First, thanks for the thought-provoking essay. Second, I'm constantly perplexed when conservatives think they own the desire for an America where every individual, without qualification, competes on a level field. I am a staunch white liberal, eagerly working toward the day when my racial background does not automatically grant me preference...but until then, I own that legacy. I can't believe that an educated member of the black community actually believes that such an experiment would work today, right now, even with an African American president. Thirdly, does Mr. Steele truly believe that the disparity between racial groups is solely the result of liberal social programs holding minority communities back? Wow. That's all I got for that.Daktarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08291715601733518982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-80861479492140536042009-03-20T11:49:00.000-04:002009-03-20T11:49:00.000-04:00"Don't worry - I understand your desperation BET U..."Don't worry - I understand your desperation BET Uncut - you are hoping and praying that no one from "Trinidad DC" moves out to where YOU live."<BR/><BR/>One of my neighbors grew up in Trinidad you freaking fool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-36319503305451811432009-03-19T19:30:00.000-04:002009-03-19T19:30:00.000-04:00[quote]Oh Wow... The Porch Simian has improved his...[quote]Oh Wow... The Porch Simian has improved his blathering![/quote]<BR/><BR/>Good ole BET Uncut.<BR/><BR/>How's it going BT?<BR/><BR/>I am thus far mistaken with my assumption that with the new Democratic Control over the Federal government that "Crooks and Liars" (and Jack and Jill) would continue their SPEAKING TRUTH TO POWER dogma rather than switch to cheer leading. (Hi "Christian Progressive Fundamentalist". Damn. For this shout out I know I am going to receive an arrest warrant for harassment). <BR/><BR/>I wonder, BET Uncut - if we will see any CHANGE out of you?<BR/><BR/><BR/><B>NOTE TO EVERYONE WHO FEIGNED OUTRAGE OVER THE NY POST A FEW WEEKS AGO</B>.......A Simian IS A MONKEY!!!<BR/><BR/>BET Uncut just called ME - a Black man - a MONKEY.<BR/><BR/>Don't worry - I understand your desperation BET Uncut - you are hoping and praying that no one from "Trinidad DC" moves out to where YOU live.Constructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417405356099504421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-50120670522124776472009-03-18T13:41:00.000-04:002009-03-18T13:41:00.000-04:00Tell me,Are the NRA, Christian Coalition and Ameri...Tell me,<BR/><BR/>Are the NRA, Christian Coalition and Americans for Tax Reform "grievance groups"?<BR/><BR/>If not, why not?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-59688912852494787142009-03-18T12:48:00.000-04:002009-03-18T12:48:00.000-04:00I actually agree with the article. I'm sick of be...I actually agree with the article. I'm sick of being apart of grievance linked struggle. The beauty in Israel is that they have merged we might disagree with their policies but I disagree with "Africa's" policies 400 years ago that took away our culture as well.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11838065457480982722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-53553564921996263882009-03-18T12:07:00.000-04:002009-03-18T12:07:00.000-04:00Oh Wow... The Porch Simian has improved his blathe...Oh Wow... The Porch Simian has improved his blathering!<BR/><BR/>He's actually learned to use the bold command!<BR/><BR/>Of course he still has that sticky Caps Lock key issue, and an IQ lower than dirt resulting in nonsensical ramblings...<BR/><BR/><I>DOGBERT: I once read that given infinite time, a thousand monkeys with typewriters would eventually write the complete works of Shakespeare.<BR/><BR/>DILBERT: But what about my poem?<BR/><BR/>DOGBERT: Three monkeys, ten minutes.</I><BR/><BR/>Indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-1599103316178924812009-03-18T11:11:00.000-04:002009-03-18T11:11:00.000-04:00[quote]SHELBY STEELE think's he is better than his...[quote]<BR/>SHELBY STEELE think's he is better than his own people, and where has he been? did he see the watermelon's on the WHITE HOUSE lawn? did he see the CHIMP being killed? who raised these confused black folk's?[/quote]<BR/><BR/>Some of you have no clue how much you sound just like White folks who you call BIGOTS.<BR/><BR/>Didn't we just go through a round of "Obama the Uppity Negro" issue among some White Conservatives?<BR/><BR/>What about Shelby Steele's words has impacted your inferiority complex and allowed you to assume that he believes that he is better than you?<BR/><BR/>I am far more concerned about Black folks who don't appear to have any particular standard by which they view themselves. They always seem to live down to these standards.<BR/><BR/>I have no doubt that some of you have learned well from your former oppressors.Constructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417405356099504421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-2502495378777036652009-03-17T21:34:00.000-04:002009-03-17T21:34:00.000-04:00My man Filled Negro!!!How's it going homeboy? (Pl...My man Filled Negro!!!<BR/><BR/>How's it going homeboy? (Please note - the word "homeboy" is not calling you "boy". It is an expression of endearment noting our common linkage to the city of Philadelphia. I realize how sensitive some of my people are these days with words and thus I figured that I'd clarify this for you.)<BR/><BR/>You know Filled Negro - I have been side tracked on so many fruitful projects that I have put aside my monitoring efforts of your propaganda. It was "Conservative Black Woman" who noted your latest rant and thus - Here I am.<BR/><BR/>[quote]The problem is that their government has never been willing to work as hard for them. Instead, <B>their government has worked only for a special few, and contrary to what you might believe, it didn't neglect you, it used you to achieve its own goals.</B> At least with liberalism, with all its faults, there was a realization that it should make you a promise, and that promise was that <B>never again will you be subjected to second class status, and our government will always work to make it so.</B> Our government will finally give you an even playing field to compete on, <B>after tipping the field against you for so long.</B>[/quote]<BR/><BR/>This is what frustrates me the most about your antics Field Negro. Today I learned about the gory details of yet another failing school system - this time Detroit Michigan. (<B><BR/>Report: Detroit schools at bottom in progress</B><BR/>http://www.freep.com/article/20090225/NEWS01/90225087/1003/NEWS/Report++Detroit+schools+at+bottom+in+progress)<BR/><BR/>Filled Negro - Detroit, like Philly, DC, Baltimore, Camden, Newark, Milwaukee, Chicago and Cleveland are indeed run by the political establishment that is FAVORABLE TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY!!!<BR/><BR/>You see, Filled Negro - the problem with you and too many other Blacks is one of IDEOLOGICAL BIGOTRY. Having worked so hard to eject the closest Conservative from office - <B>Upon the VICTORY in the context of your agenda</B> - your favorable position on paper had not been obtained on the streets. <BR/><BR/>Now for most people, Filled Negro these political and ideological victories that haven't translated would cause them to back up, consider the FUNDAMENTALS that they may have been incorrect about, TRANSFORM and then proceed smartly. In your bigotry and your bondage - these problems drive you to "keep chasing"! Instead of doing such introspection you make the assumption that YOU ARE RIGHT and thus <B>the greater system must be the problem!!</B> Thus you rally the troops that SHOULD BE TURNING AGAINST YOU and then you go chasing once again.<BR/><BR/>WHY did you bother to take over the CITIES, Filled Negro if you were not prepared to deliver all of the services that were required for the system that you now control to be successful?<BR/><BR/>This SECOND CLASS STATUS that you speak of as rendered by RACIST CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENTS of the past is STILL PRESENT TODAY among the failing school systems that are run by Progressives to-damned-day. <BR/><BR/>The biggest difference this time, Filled Negro, is that because those who are failing our community are beloved PROGRESSIVES, just as you are - they avoid the attacks that you and Jack & Jill and other "Afro-Spear" operatives render.<BR/><BR/>How about this Filled Negro - Let's give all public school teachers who are failing our children a TASER and then make note to Afro-Spear every time they make use of the device. I ASSURE you that this is the only way to motivate AfroSpear into action, focused upon the REAL PROBLEMS in our community.<BR/><BR/>If the Republican Party was to close its doors TODAY this would not translate to any forward advancement for Black America. Today any voting district that has 35% or more African Americans as voters DO NOT HAVE REPUBLICANS running it. Baltimore and Milwaukee and Rochester NY have 100% Democratic city councils. (Chicago has 49 of 50 Democrats). Philly as you know has 14 out of 17 and New York City has 54 city council seats - 49 of them Democrats.<BR/><BR/>I fail to see why some of you focus so keenly on the Republicans while quickly EXITING THE BLACK COMMUNITY where your beloved Democrats are failing you greatly.Constructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417405356099504421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-33901860806271024672009-03-17T20:46:00.000-04:002009-03-17T20:46:00.000-04:00And uhhhh... Flash - About the Malcom thing...As a...And uhhhh... Flash - About the Malcom thing...<BR/><BR/>As a card carrying young radical in training at the time, I think I have a bit more than just a Librarian's perspective ...<BR/><BR/>And Malcom would have strongly suggested you current crop of coonservatives trying to glom onto his and Martin's material, in some sort of perverted reverse symbolism...<BR/><BR/>Are operating on 300 years of borrowed time...<BR/><BR/>On a 299 year clock.<BR/><BR/>Couple of us Old Skooler's floating around the WWW. Suggest you talk to Prometheus 6 or Nanakwame for a little perspective if you ever cross their paths.<BR/><BR/>BTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-32072038133867220352009-03-17T20:29:00.000-04:002009-03-17T20:29:00.000-04:00Flash sez - "With that said, check out John McWhor...Flash sez - "With that said, check out John McWhorter and Stanley Crouch(when he publishes); go back and reread and listen to what Malcolm was really saying."<BR/><BR/>McWeenie tries to hide his lack of logical thinking in flowery passages and high dollar verbiage. Occasionally there is a nugget there, but digging though it can be like panning for pennies...<BR/><BR/>After the Gold Rush.<BR/><BR/>The Grouch, every since he rediscovered his man thing in his infatuation with Mrs Obama, actually has been pretty good - cutting through the bullshit dynamic so common of the febrile minds of the coonservative set.<BR/><BR/>Grouch is now "must read", and is awfully close to losing his official House Negro card.<BR/><BR/>Saw an interesting article the other day stating that Larry Elder had lost his radio gig, at least in the LA Market. Conservative radio apparently has been hit by hard times with the free falling economy with ad revenue declining precipitously. Needing desperately to lighten the boat, of course the first to go are Negroes...<BR/><BR/>Followed by the women and children... <BR/><BR/>This IS conservative radio after all.<BR/><BR/>Wonder if Uncle Larrie enjoyed being leveled by that playing field?<BR/><BR/>BTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-85949372785045031392009-03-17T20:16:00.000-04:002009-03-17T20:16:00.000-04:00yea, right neocons are quaking your boy up in the ...yea, right neocons are quaking your boy up in the big house already screwed the pooch most of the country inculding most of the libs are pissed at your boy for not doing anything about the big ass bonuses that are being paid out and he an't but giving it lip service! yea, they are probably in these dicks contracts but if they hadn't gotten our hard earned money they wouldn't be getting the bonuses!!! hummm <BR/><BR/>that's fine he can let'em keep our money.....don't think for one second it won't be brought up atleast the next several years.....LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-35221435494737230052009-03-17T19:40:00.000-04:002009-03-17T19:40:00.000-04:00UTS~"You've got the black conservative bloggers qu...UTS~"You've got the black conservative bloggers quaking in their tapshoes!"<BR/><BR/>FN~Your post was quite thought provoking but this black conservative who btw UTS has no proverbial tapshoes was hardly quaking...lol. Just trying to understand FN's processing of Steele's op-ed.Conservative Black Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04447535512847936593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-37096841020301541472009-03-17T17:31:00.000-04:002009-03-17T17:31:00.000-04:00FALSE1, don't you apologize for what you said abou...FALSE1, don't you apologize for what you said about STELLE! he is a TRAITOR, point blank, and he need's to be called out, these so called BLACK CONSERVATIVE'S, walk hand and hand with the WHITE MAN and assist in the never ending PERSECUTION of the PRESIDENT!<BR/><BR/>I could care less about their so called BELIEF'S, I am a DEMOCRAT, and I do not agree with everything the democrat's believe in, but, you eat the meat and spit out the bone's!<BR/><BR/>Black Conservative's, are afraid to deal with RACISM, so they cross over, and they are afraid to look back, because the truth is, RACISM is a hard thing to deal with, it's ugly, so BLACK CONSERVATIVE'S try to hide out with WHITE FOLK'S and accuse their own people of being LAZY, and SHIFTLESS.<BR/><BR/>SHELBY STEELE think's he is better than his own people, and where has he been? did he see the watermelon's on the WHITE HOUSE lawn? did he see the CHIMP being killed? who raised these confused black folk's?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-15336040327998880802009-03-17T17:05:00.000-04:002009-03-17T17:05:00.000-04:00So what the &*^%! happened to Malcolm XI???? W...So what the &*^%! happened to Malcolm XI???? Way y'all carry on figured we'd be up to LX by now...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-66673158138360982822009-03-17T16:53:00.000-04:002009-03-17T16:53:00.000-04:00Love this post. You really nailed the argument to ...Love this post. You really nailed the argument to the wall Field.<BR/><BR/>I would also add that Obama's presidency does not redeem America of an "ugly past" rather, it finally allows us to peel away the bloodied and ragged bandages so that we might take a look at the wound.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-7162941682244866702009-03-17T14:53:00.000-04:002009-03-17T14:53:00.000-04:00Shelby sez...."It (conservatism) neglected me in e...Shelby sez....<BR/><BR/>"It (conservatism) neglected me in every way except as a human being who wanted freedom."<BR/><BR/>Does he realize that the conservatives opposed Civil Rights legislation thus denying the humanity of the black?????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-18959547692326585812009-03-17T14:44:00.000-04:002009-03-17T14:44:00.000-04:00Field,Great job!!!You've got the black conservativ...Field,<BR/><BR/>Great job!!!<BR/><BR/>You've got the black conservative bloggers quaking in their tapshoes!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-74397329440773027612009-03-17T12:54:00.000-04:002009-03-17T12:54:00.000-04:00Hey Anonymous (if that is indeed your real name), ...Hey Anonymous (if that is indeed your real name), where do YOU get off?<BR/><BR/>At least Shelby Steele is a public figure who gets paid to put his "ideas" out there on the national stage for public scrutiny.<BR/><BR/>Well, I scrutinized. <BR/><BR/>Then you have the nerve to restate, admittedly more politely, what I already said in my post of 9:47, paragraph 2.<BR/><BR/>I may have been too harsh in calling Steele a traitor though, so I'll change it knucklehead. <BR/><BR/>Crouch is still an idiot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-83651713297517116622009-03-17T12:48:00.000-04:002009-03-17T12:48:00.000-04:00Field, I see where you are coming from.Field, I see where you are coming from.DJ Black Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15258897246879725176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-38209499109313902112009-03-17T12:38:00.000-04:002009-03-17T12:38:00.000-04:00Adam said - "When the rubber hits the road, most p...Adam said - "When the rubber hits the road, most people of color I know are, on a personal level, very conservative."<BR/><BR/>One of the more persistent fantasies is the conservative flim-flam about having personal values.<BR/><BR/>The reality is, it's an individual issue and doesn't have a damn bit to do with political philosophy.<BR/><BR/>Else, why would the news be filled with near daily reports of this conservative or that caught by law enforcement diddling their kids?<BR/><BR/>BTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-89227419627206116452009-03-17T11:35:00.000-04:002009-03-17T11:35:00.000-04:00Field-Good post. Unfortunately, your blog-site, th...Field-<BR/><BR/>Good post. Unfortunately, your blog-site, this arena for a free exchange of ideas, must also include and suffer the rants and raves of the semi-literate and profoundly ill-informed who loudly proclaim their ignorance. Where do some of these posts (False1; Rikyrah) get off labeling anyone? <BR/>I appreciate but respectfully disagree with your analysis of Mr. Steele's article. Don't you think that we do ourselves an injustice when we confine our ideologies to "conservatism" and "liberalism"? IMHO both ideologies enslave their adherents. <BR/>Finally, some of us out here are independent and self-reliant; AND, we READ!! With that said, check out John McWhorter and Stanley Crouch(when he publishes); go back and reread and listen to what Malcolm was really saying. Thanks.<BR/>"Flash"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-53336888854893678602009-03-17T11:18:00.000-04:002009-03-17T11:18:00.000-04:00Field:Well said, sir.Field:<BR/><BR/>Well said, sir.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-4170299927293748562009-03-17T10:23:00.000-04:002009-03-17T10:23:00.000-04:00I hate to pile on but I saw this quote when I scan...I hate to pile on but I saw this quote when I scanned the article again:<BR/><BR/><I>I always secretly loved Malcolm X more than Martin Luther King Jr. because Malcolm wanted a fuller human dignity for blacks -- one independent of white moral wrestling.</I><BR/><BR/>Why did you "secretly" love Malcolm you cowardly bastard? Because white folks at the time wouldn't approve? And did you denigrate him publicly the way conservatives now denigrate Jesse Jackson?<BR/><BR/>That's classic American tricknology at work right there. When King and X were alive King's ideology was promoted because it more easily fit the needs of the power structure. 40 years later Jesse is made racial public enemy #1 even though he was standing on that balcony when King was shot. He put his black ass on the line for black folk by helping to carry out Kings agenda. He has essentially followed the same non-violent, civil rights style tactics for the last 40 years. The same tactics for which King was given a national holiday. <BR/><BR/>Now a conservative boot licker like Steele has the nerve to say that X had a better agenda? No shit asshole. Fools like Steele need to be called out for the traitors they are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-86052582935573297562009-03-17T10:15:00.000-04:002009-03-17T10:15:00.000-04:00David Duke is genuine in his beliefs...Which doesn...David Duke is genuine in his beliefs...<BR/><BR/>Which doesn't say a damn thing about whether he is nutty as a fruitcake. <BR/><BR/>The glaring holes in Shelsquat's arguments are simply this -<BR/><BR/>The black poverty rate under the Great Society dropped from 65% in 1960 to a constant 22% under Raygun, Bush, and the Bushit. The only time that number has dipped below 20%, was under Clinton. <BR/><BR/>The region of the country led by conservatives since Nixon's Southern Strategy, continues to trail the rest of the country in virtually every positive indicator - from income levels to educational attainment. Indeed, they continue to have the lowest income levels, lowest educational attainment rates, highest violent crime rates, highest teenage birth rates, highest High School dropout rates, and lowest literacy rates...<BR/><BR/>And that just for the white folks.<BR/><BR/>So... If conservatism has been this "good" to white folks...<BR/><BR/>How the mo' freaking hell could anyone be stupid enough to believe these Southern chicken fried scum sucker's "philosophy"...<BR/><BR/>Is going to be "good" for black folks.<BR/><BR/>BTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-66343275084915769422009-03-17T09:59:00.000-04:002009-03-17T09:59:00.000-04:00I like this post.I agree with one comment that She...I like this post.<BR/><BR/>I agree with one comment that Shelby Steele is very idealistic. If individualism is an important value, then what is the point joining a group of any kind? If you are an individual, then you are a person to have individual thoughts and purpose. An individual can decide his or her morals and values. I think there is a problem with being part of the collective because it can create a group think mentality and cripples the ability for looking problems and solutions differently. The ideal of conservatism does not real enough room for change because it's about having and maintaining tradition. To a certain degree liberal ideas are steep in tradition and does not leave much room change either. It is simple not practical to continue traditions that no longer with in an ever-changing society. Perhaps Steele was also influenced by Ayn Rand. I think there is room where you can be an individual and inter-conntected. Perhaps we should realize that we have an interest in working for others to succeed because it does directly or indirectly affects us. Just think if we could eradicate hunger and poverty how it would make us a more secure society in that it could reduce crime.<BR/><BR/>However, here is a question, does individualism have a place in the political process when the goal is to work for the many?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com