tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post7836145747748518741..comments2024-03-29T09:40:20.675-04:00Comments on field negro: Straight eye for the queer guyfield negrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15411743587725023134noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-87980322293530248782007-11-09T12:29:00.000-05:002007-11-09T12:29:00.000-05:00This is simply a comment on the "If It's about Cla...This is simply a comment on the "If It's about Class and Not Race..." Economic disparity breeds racism. Poor people look for scapegoats to blame for their condition while those in power use any means to hold on. Economic opportunities and cultural respect that is taught within all levels of society are some solutions. <BR/>Too bad the situation is made worse in our country with the systemic support of racism within the prison system to keep out solidarity. My buddy who spent 4yrs in Texass feels that the Cuban Prison Model could be used to eliminate or at least weaken racist gangs.GreenEvolutionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05800588436789162206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-12908812309585870022007-11-06T00:00:00.000-05:002007-11-06T00:00:00.000-05:00I have totally slept on this story on my own blog ...I have totally slept on this story on my own blog and I'm going to have to get on it. So this is a warmup. First off, in my view, the way people are bashing the black church as homophobic is every bit as biased and prejudiced as you claim the church behaves against gays. Christian teachings are quite clear that homosexuality is immoral, sinful behavior, just like fornication, just like adultery and any number of other activities that are not considered to be consonant with a Christian lifestyle. The church is not "homophobic". The church's teaching is clear. The fact that gay people dislike this teaching because it condemns the behavior they are engaging in, does not make it homophobia. We don't apply this line of reasoning to the other things; nobody runs around saying the church is adulterphobic, or fornicataphobic and people are doing plenty of that too. <BR/><BR/>I'm a Christian. I believe homosexuality to be immoral behavior based on scripture. That does not make me "homophobic" which Webster defines as an irrational fear or aversion to homosexuals.<BR/><BR/>Nor in my view is it homophobia for McClurkin or anyone else to advance the position that if someone is engaging in homosexual behavior and desires to change that, they can and furthermore they should. Advancing such a position is no basis to claim that they are expressing an irrational fear or aversion of gays. And whether you believe McClurkin to be a hypocrite or not doesn't change that.Political Seasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09609253738367441591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-36621519713186859352007-11-04T15:46:00.000-05:002007-11-04T15:46:00.000-05:00ok i'm sorry but this is ridiculous. i know the bl...ok i'm sorry but this is ridiculous. i know the black community is all kinds of homophobic, so i guess i'm not "surprised" by the kinds of comments i'm seeing here, but i am mad as hell. i'm gonna try and keep this short, but i do have a WHOLE lot to say.<BR/><BR/>a) and maybe this will help yall answer all the questions you have that i don't have time to get to: homophobia is a lot like racism. think it over, let it sit with you for a while. what might that mean? well if someone says they think black people are not as smart as white people, you might call them a racist. they might think "how come every time i express a negative opinion about black people i'm a racist?" but you still think they're racist? right? same thing. if you say you think gay people don't deserve to get married, a gay person might think "hey, that's homophobic." why? because you think homosexuality is a negative thing.<BR/><BR/>b) from a couple posts up:<BR/><BR/>"Finally, in this regard, consider the lesbians. Most lesbians would easily agree that they are capable of being attracted to men--and not biologically and solely programmed as lesbians."<BR/><BR/>what. the. fuck? do you KNOW any lesbians or are you basing this off of your $5 adult films you keep under your bed? most lesbians would easily agree that they are attracted to women. thats why they call themselves lesbians. if they were attracted to men, they'd be bisexual. or straight.<BR/><BR/><BR/>c) the reason people are offended by McClurkin's claims about being sexually abused as a child is not because they're not taking it seriously. its because he is trying to imply that gay = abused as a child. which is not true, and which is really insulting for all the gay people out there who are really just gay, and don't want people thinking "oh you're fucked up because you were abused."<BR/><BR/>d) PEOPLE, read a book, and then start commenting on a blog. this post is about obama and mcclurkin, yet as i read the comments all of a sudden its turned into an argument about whether a boy who plays with barbies is gay. grow up.<BR/><BR/>ok i have a lot more to say, but let me just end with this: this post was about obama and mcclurkin, and field, i have to disagree with you on this one. Obama fucked up. this isn't about picking up one little thing and bringing him down, this is about him making a monumental error that's exposed a weakness he's had all along: the fact that he's mad conservative. so cheer for him all you want because he's a black man, but he threw the gays under the bus with this, he'll do it again if he gets elected. he voted to build a wall between the US and mexico. he's just not that liberal. i know you WANT him to be a field negro, but he's just not, and this is just one of many examples of that. so yeah, obama would have lost my vote on this. if he had it in the first place.kayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13859799569933035875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-33623662340464166072007-11-04T09:04:00.000-05:002007-11-04T09:04:00.000-05:00When ever some one uses the word "homophobic" in d...When ever some one uses the word "homophobic" in discussion about gays, it's the end of that discussion for me.<BR/><BR/>Why do you have to make me out to have an unreasonable fear of homos because I believe it's impossible for two gay men or women to be married?<BR/><BR/>If someone is gay, fine, WFcares? But when I see overt displays of abnormal behavior, including public sex acts, why am I labeled "homophobic" if I think it's disgusting?<BR/><BR/>And why in God's name do you think it's OK?<BR/>MMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-73470340396039863572007-11-04T01:54:00.000-04:002007-11-04T01:54:00.000-04:00And if homosexuality is proved not to be genetic, ...And if homosexuality is proved not to be genetic, then what would that mean? Nothing, as far as I'm concerned. It may be uncomfortable for me to see two guys kissing and holding hands, but is it really any of my damn business? I don't have the right to make them stop, even if I wanted to. Whether or not homosexuality is genetic is not relevant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-10587110745787694352007-11-02T22:13:00.000-04:002007-11-02T22:13:00.000-04:00Great comment. So, why is Donnie M. still phuckin...Great comment. <BR/><BR/>So, why is Donnie M. still phucking men. Read the previous posts. Someone's going to out that lying ass man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-4763588441507043392007-11-02T21:25:00.000-04:002007-11-02T21:25:00.000-04:00Tracee has it exactly right. Field Negro, you're d...Tracee has it exactly right. <BR/>Field Negro, you're drinking the cool-aid of the gay propaganda machine. <BR/><BR/>I personally question the machines insistence that homosexuality goes to the bone--so to speak. <BR/><BR/>Realize that it is in the gay lobbyists interests to (1) claim that homosexuality is nature, and nothing at all to do with nurture. This allows the gays to claim "rights" and "protections"--sometimes at the expense of Black folks--as homosexuality--like race and gender--are immutable characteristics. <BR/><BR/>It also allows gays to keep their pools ever expanding, and never retrenching. Once gay, always gay--even when the label is opposed by the accused gay himself. (The practice of identity drafting is just so passe. Even Jet(Mag.) has stopped drafting Cablasian-identified as black. The gays should this too.) The more gays, the larger the political base that can be claimed by the gays. <BR/><BR/>Also, this insistence of maintaining people as gays even those with histories of abuse also helps the gay community to avoid societal focus and condemnation of a fairly common and widely accepted practice within the gay community--man-boy relations. <BR/><BR/>As mere description--not judgement, the gay community--maybe, particularly the white male gay community--is particularly youth-obsessed. And many within the gay community consider man-boy relations a rite of passage almost for young homosexuals. I believe this is why the molestation is given short shrift--and no concern--by gays in their "outrage" about McClurkin's declarations. <BR/><BR/>I don't think we should buy into this. I think we do when we dismiss McClurkin's insistence that his homosexuality was born of his abuse.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, to my ears, this is another effort by the gay community to elevate their interests by borrowing on the vilification of black men to condemn a perceive homophobic sentiment or practice. Nothing garners as much condemnation as a Black poster child.<BR/><BR/>Tracee's point also stands to reason. If one's only sexual experiences have been with gay men , one might come coto believe he is gay--even though this might not be his native orientation--if, indeed, homosexuality is a native orientation. <BR/><BR/>How could it be of all the sexual expressions a person can make that only male homosexuality wouldn't have a nurture component? We can accept that being drawn to "forbidden sex" can be conditioned by experiences--strict upbringing or sex--stolen in the shadows. We're willing to accept that attraction to abusive or exploitive relations can be based on nurture. Many even gender expressions (acting like a girl, e.g.) can be nurtured. <BR/><BR/>So, why not homosexuality? Doesn't make sense to me that this would be so. <BR/><BR/>Indeed, I believe that the willingness of heterosexuals to accept this thinking is sourced in homophobia. It is just that some can't imagine a male especially engaging in same-sex relationship unless the male is biologically programmed to do so. <BR/><BR/>I don't this is true. I believe the breadth of same-sex sexual activity in jail suggests otherwise. It might be that all of those engaged in same-sex relations in jail were latent homosexuals outside but I doubt it.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, it seems to me that for a kid--especially--that one can be genitally stimulated by almost anything (even a cherry pie)--and then be set of a course--believing that that is the only path towards sexual gratification--and not be programmed that way. <BR/><BR/>Moreover, I think there is extensive reasons to otherwise believe that homosexuality is nurtured. One, there are those who see a correlation--possibly causation--between homosexuality and the kind of relationship a kid has with his father. Myself, I wonder whether especially in regard to "flamers" if homosexuality is not connected to a lack--and, therefore, need for attention. Many homosexuals--to my eyes--seem to be groping for meaning and attention from the group they have been conditioned to believe matters most--men--in the way in which women secure it. <BR/><BR/>This--again--seems to be a product of nurture. I don't know why it would necessarily be that because a man is attracted to another man biologically that he would assume an even exaggerated expression of perceived femininity. Gay men don't have more estrogen than women, for example. I know there are possible other explanations but one is that the "homosexuality" is born of the need to secure meaning--and therefore attention--a possibly nurtured condition.<BR/><BR/>Finally, in this regard, consider the lesbians. Most lesbians would easily agree that they are capable of being attracted to men--and not biologically and solely programmed as lesbians.<BR/><BR/>Finally, specifically about McClurkin, McClurking has not claimed that every male homosexual has come to homosexuality the way he has. (Quite generous for a Pentecostal minister.) Nor has he claimed that all gays can be "cured." (Another quite generous allowance for a Pentecostal minsiter.) He has simply observed that he believes that his homosexuality was born of sexual abuse and a lack of heterosexual male role models. McClurking believes that some others might have walked along his path--and it is of them he speaks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-20637435308808355842007-11-02T19:10:00.000-04:002007-11-02T19:10:00.000-04:00It is unfair that people take child mostation like...It is unfair that people take child mostation like it's a damn joke. When a girl is molested and become sexually promiscuous were they born that way?<BR/>Donnie was violated as a CHILD he did not have the RIGHT to develop his sexually in normal development stages he could have been born gay or “turned out”. I see all the testosterone flying around here, but you missed the point: Molestation retards sexual growth in children. You don’t know if he choosing to be "gay" was driven by HIS trauma of molestation or if it was more genetically derived. I think Donnie knows which better than any of you. Men who have sex with men (MSM) who are victims of childhood sexual abuse are more likely to engage in homosexual behavior than other MSMs, say researchers from UCSF's Center for AIDS Prevention (CAPS). The study, published in the April issue of Child Abuse & Neglect, found that about one fifth (20.6%) of all MSMs experienced childhood sexual abuse--a rate that is higher than prevalence estimates for the general male population. There are many women who were molested by men and feel discomfort and repulsed by men with men and live a lesbian lifestyle. Same sex molestation has an impact whether you people think it does or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-13151210056874393322007-11-02T18:50:00.000-04:002007-11-02T18:50:00.000-04:00A hell of a lot of these homophobic black churches...A hell of a lot of these homophobic black churches would collaspe without their gay members. Not only that, but without gays, there wouldn't be much of a black gospel music business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-78475712375027896142007-11-02T13:27:00.000-04:002007-11-02T13:27:00.000-04:00Excellent post! How you just switch from coochie ...Excellent post! How you just switch from coochie to dyck and back to coochie?!?!?! WTF! Pick a side...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-41479015267179416932007-11-02T12:06:00.000-04:002007-11-02T12:06:00.000-04:00I have a friend that knew when he was ten or eleve...I have a friend that knew when he was ten or eleven years old, he was gay.<BR/><BR/>And until I left Texas, I watched his father beat that ass, trying to beat the "gayness" out of him.<BR/><BR/>Didn't work. Brotha is now 48 years old, and is <I>still gay</I>. That's why I don't buy McClurkin's argument that being raped by his pedophile uncle and cousin led him to become gay. The cousin may have pounced on him because the gay characteristics were prevelant in young Donnie back then.<BR/><BR/>No one willingly "chooses" to be something that they know is going to earn at the very least, disdain and disownment from their family; at worse, physical abuse and DEATH.<BR/><BR/>And if McClurkin was "cured" you'd think he'd hit the road to show other homosexuals how to be "cured", wouldn't he?<BR/><BR/>Like someone said upthread, he should shut up and sing, and let Obama clean up the mess they both made.The Christian Progressive Liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04445662404937684518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-82556551117625093652007-11-02T09:31:00.000-04:002007-11-02T09:31:00.000-04:00@ang Can you turn around and apply the same arguem...@ang <BR/><BR/>Can you turn around and apply the same arguement to heterosexuals? Are you cable of doing that? Or does your arguement only exist for homosexuals? if it does, than it's dead. Sexuality and 'CHOICE' goes both way. If someone is choosing homosexuality than most of us are choosing heterosexuality. That's bullshit. I did not choose my heterosexuality. I was born this way. Maybe you bat both ways and you live your life with choice. But I don't. I was born straight. <BR/><BR/>Re-read my POSTS(pluraral). I discuss the PROBABILITY of behavoir associated with gender identification. I didn't say this example fits all gay people. And yes, researchers have discovered a link between behavoir associated with gender identification to sexuality. Does it mean that ALL homosexuauls can be classified by behavoir - NO!!! We all know some women marry very straight acting men. So, obviously you can't go on behavoir alone BUT SOMETIMES YOU CAN. If you feel comfortable dating an effimante man who likes to wear lipstic, heels and booty shorts in public because you don't believe behvoir or dress associated with gender indentification matters, that's your stupid ass choice. As for me, no thanks. <BR/><BR/>If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck - it COULD be a duck. I'm sorry you 're unable to see that probablity. <BR/><BR/>I sincerely believe that most gays were born that way. I also believe that some (NOT ALL) gay children exhibit behavoir identified with the opposite sex. So my barbie/Jamal arguement STILL stands.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-35983405826700556952007-11-02T09:14:00.000-04:002007-11-02T09:14:00.000-04:00Apology to black americans:http://subfighter63.blo...Apology to black americans:<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://subfighter63.blogspot.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-54952471562916745652007-11-02T03:36:00.000-04:002007-11-02T03:36:00.000-04:00"Why is little Jamal sneakin' to put on lipstic, d..."Why is little Jamal sneakin' to put on lipstic, dresses and playing with barbies. Jamal knows that if he gets caught, he gets his lil ass beat. That's how<BR/>we do in our families. How many black families do you know socialize their children for homosexuality."<BR/><BR/>I fail to understand how this behavior has anything to do with the little boy liking other boys. What you have described is an adoption of gender roles that is contrary to what we say boys should do. Is that gay? Is gay something other the an the act of having sexual attraction for the same gender? Please help me understand.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, I wish that people would stop saying that you can't choose to be gay. Just because there are some that may indeed have been born gay (I don't know...), does not mean the idea of others choosing this path to enjoy sexual intimacy is totally out of the question. <BR/><BR/>Let's use some logic here. People experiment. People also often decide to choose paths in life to suit whatever they are thinking they want at that time. I honestly believe that there are some, especially women, who decide, after being in numerous failed relationships or no relationships with men, to try being with other women. Why wouldn't you think that's a possibility.<BR/><BR/>Just wondering...Angela L. Braden, Writer, Speaker, Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17473106954036686180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-20884981343247599492007-11-02T01:53:00.000-04:002007-11-02T01:53:00.000-04:00Socialization my ass. The black community does no...Socialization my ass. The black community does not condone homosexuality. Especially the black church. So, you're arguement is dead. <BR/><BR/>Why is little Jamal sneakin' to put on lipstic, dresses and playing with barbies. Jamal knows that if he gets caught, he gets his lil ass beat. That's how we do in our families. How many black families do you know socialize their children for homosexuality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-56750770984791592282007-11-02T01:17:00.000-04:002007-11-02T01:17:00.000-04:00"Do you think straight people choose to be straigh..."Do you think straight people choose to be straight?"<BR/><BR/>Likely not since clearly the genitals and reproductve systems of the genders compliment each other, but I suspect that as far as homosexuality is concerned there could be an early socialization process in the works that we have not considered or sufficiently examined.Michael Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14542253904917878025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-10444863790017297342007-11-02T00:53:00.000-04:002007-11-02T00:53:00.000-04:00@Mike FisherWhy don't you answer your question, fi...@Mike Fisher<BR/><BR/>Why don't you answer your question, first about white idolation for homosexuality? <BR/><BR/>Do you think straight people choose to be straight?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-21328759726327527162007-11-02T00:43:00.000-04:002007-11-02T00:43:00.000-04:00@anonI saw a young brotha the other day, proably i...@anon<BR/><BR/>I saw a young brotha the other day, proably in his teens, walkin' with a ladies purse, high heel shoes, lip gloss on, and a bright green shirt. Would I be crazy to assume he was gay? Guess what? I'm going to assume he is gay. I can also apply this logic to children. Read this... I can also assume that a little boy who enjoys wearing dresses like his sisters, play with makeup and likes to play with barbies is probably going to grow up being gay. It's called probability. <BR/><BR/>Research is showing that there are some predictors regarding behavoir in children. 60 minutes did a great piece on homosexuality and the genetic component. They talked to researchers who followed many sets of identical twins from birth to adulthood. All twins lived in the same household. In some of the sets, one twin was straight and the other was gay. They had video footage and pics. You clearly saw effeminate behavoir for the young boys and masculine behavoir for the girls who later came out as gay. I do realize that there are some gays that do not exhibit this behavoir so early BUT SOME DO!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-90961387166357363672007-11-02T00:32:00.000-04:002007-11-02T00:32:00.000-04:00"Black kids choose white dolls because of society'..."Black kids choose white dolls because of society's obession with white beauty."<BR/><BR/>I'm sure you'd agree that we can make this statment a bit more precise:<BR/><BR/>"Black kids choose white dolls because of white racism's obession with white beauty."<BR/><BR/>Which begs the question: does white racism afford homosexuality the same idolation?Michael Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14542253904917878025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-74562688850616591552007-11-02T00:18:00.000-04:002007-11-02T00:18:00.000-04:00@Mike Fisher Many gay people have stated that they...@Mike Fisher <BR/><BR/>Many gay people have stated that they've always known they were gay. I'm not gay. But I can relate. I'm a straight black woman. I DID NOT wake up one day and CHOOSE to be straight. I've always known I've been attracted to men. Do you think straight people choose to be straight? If not, why? Are straight people born straight? Or we all just choosing our sexualities? <BR/><BR/>Black kids choose white dolls because of society's obession with white beauty. Society does not afford homosexuality the same idolation. So, your arguement is dead. Black culture in paticular is extremely homophobic. A black child, especially if he or she is raised in the black church will encounter homophobia and lots of it. So, why would they CHOOSE this lifestyle?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-57827453628547410432007-11-01T23:58:00.000-04:002007-11-01T23:58:00.000-04:00While we're at it.Why do certain white people like...While we're at it.<BR/><BR/>Why do certain white people like to <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfIwTm76MZo" REL="nofollow">fuck animals?</A> Is it a genetic predisposition? Or is there something about racism that drives then to do it?Michael Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14542253904917878025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-30520818128382209692007-11-01T23:53:00.000-04:002007-11-01T23:53:00.000-04:00"Do you really think those children are choosing t..."Do you really think those children are choosing to act gay?"<BR/><BR/>Why would a five year old black child choose a white doll as the "pretty one"? Is that because the black kid is genetically programmed to do so?Michael Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14542253904917878025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-62537157807552409302007-11-01T23:52:00.000-04:002007-11-01T23:52:00.000-04:00"How would a 7 year know that walkin' with a zesty..."How would a 7 year know that walkin' with a zesty step and switchin' was inappropriate behavoir for a boy?<BR/>How do you explain effeminate children especially if they've got siblings that act straight?<BR/>Do you really think those children are choosing to act gay?" Anon<BR/><BR/>Would you or anyone for that matter, please tell me what is "acting" gay or straight? <BR/>How does one "act" gay or straight? <BR/>Would you also tell me if we are now determining if someone is going to be same gender loving because they are "acting" a certain way? <BR/>When a little girl likes to play with trucks and cars, are we to assume that's she's going to be a lezbian? <BR/>If a little boy likes to play with dolls, are we presuming that he is going to be gay when he starts having sexual desires? <BR/>Is it really all the same thing, or are we confusing gender identification, which is socially constructed, with sexuality? <BR/>Or is sexuality sometimes socially constructed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-55740391058832659842007-11-01T22:36:00.000-04:002007-11-01T22:36:00.000-04:00@mike fischerWhy would a 6 year old boy want to pl...@mike fischer<BR/><BR/>Why would a 6 year old boy want to play with barbie dolls? <BR/><BR/>How would a 7 year know that walkin' with a zesty step and switchin' was inappropriate behavoir for a boy? <BR/><BR/>How do you explain effeminate children especially if they've got siblings that act straight? <BR/><BR/>Do you really think those children are choosing to act gay?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23428832.post-65394021561405965482007-11-01T22:34:00.000-04:002007-11-01T22:34:00.000-04:00Okay,So what have we learned here?Politicians can ...Okay,<BR/>So what have we learned here?<BR/><BR/>Politicians can be clueless or careless and whores for a vote. Donnie McClurkin is deluded, still gay, scary and should just shut up and sing.<BR/><BR/>When will these scary religious types stop raving about who's loving or doing who and raise money for poverty programs?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com