Poor Charles Tyson, all the guy wanted was to be a good public servant and live out his remaining days with his family in his South Jersey community. But sorry Charles, that type of treatment is reserved for our new President, not small town Mayors from lily white communities. A-merry-ca ain't quite as post racial as we would like it to be just yet.
Charles was the first black Mayor of South Harrison Township, but rather than put up with the constant threats to his family, and racist vandalism, old Charles decided to call it a day.
(Sorry Charlie, only certain black folks get to be race neutral in A-merry-ca) What's sad about this story is that Charles Tyson seemed like such a decent guy. Unfortunately, from the way some morons treated the guy, you would think he was Mike Tyson or something. And then, as is always the case, some of the folks in town said he was playing the"Race Card". (You black people and these race cards) Forget the fact that his tires were slashed, his lawn sign defaced with the words KKK, and the Neo Nazis were making personal phone calls to him. Not good enough to bring out the "Race Card" Charles. That card should only be used in the case of lynchings or when there is blood drawn and actual bodily harm.
And honestly folks, I hate to be (what is it one regular to the fields calls me? ) a "racism chaser", but sometimes racism just won't get out of the damn way.
"It's not that the whole town is racist. It's just that a certain group of people in the town were trying to get to me.."
Oh stop whining and get over it. You are 62 years old: hell when you were a little boy growing up in segregated A-merry-ca; did you think you could grow up to be a Mayor of a white town one day? Of course you didn't. See Charles, that's called progress.
F-ed up story. But a lot of your commenters seem to draw a line from this mess to say that these negroes killing and selling dope in Killadelphia is the result of white people as well. They're likely the same people who say Hamas is like the YMCA, not a bunch of bloodthirsty scum. Not that the Israelis are much better, but...
ReplyDeletePS check out my post on Bob Johnson bogarting yet another TV channel. Jesus, not again.
Everyone in this world, this country are not willing to let true hero's alone. Charles Tyson did what was best for his family. Was it right that he couldn't serve his community and be left in peace? No! Will we ever flush the world of these kinds of individuals? No! Could we all together as a group in this country, state or city rid ourselves of ignorance? Perhaps one day in the future with knowledge, but that will not help Charles Tyson today. In this case I mourn for this country and they make me sick.
ReplyDeleteI hate it when I read items like this and what happened on the BART. It's like nothing's changed since Obama got elected.
ReplyDeletewow, this is going down in So. Jersey now? It's so last century. Ignorant assholes.
ReplyDeleteThe town is so small, I'm sure he knows the folks who are doing it.
Chris, I will check out that post.
ReplyDelete"It's like nothing's changed since Obama got elected."
R.J., it might have gotten worse.
I am convinced that nothing has changed at all since Obama was elected, probably got worse and he hasn't even been sworn in yet.
ReplyDeleteHow would you feel being an Entitled Whitey and you see an AfAm President? No more can you claim, "at leasts I aints no Ni**er". Reality tells you that you will have to earn your way.
ReplyDeleteMold
Wait a minute.
ReplyDeleteI thought white folks were past race and it's us hypersensitive black folks who use it as a battering ram to get concessions.
At least that's what Uncle Shelby Steele and Uncle Larry Elder says.
(in a Martin-like manner) "You so c-r-a-z-y!" Peace.
ReplyDeleteWe tend think of the "Northeast" as a uniformly liberal part of the country.
ReplyDeleteTo a large extent, it is liberal.
However, there are some really scary pockets of assholism in the Northeast where racism and homophobia flourish.
Parts of "South Jersey" remind me of Alabama. One township refused to accept the Domestic Partner registration of a lesbian couple, another refused to list both women on a birth certificate and a gay man -- a cop, recently won a discrimination lawsuit over failure to promote based on his sexual orientation.
Gee, I thought Texas and Utah were "Taliban?"
Have you heard about this shit in Texas? A cop shot a brother in his parents' driveway for absolutely no reason.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01/08/baseballer.shot/
Have you heard about this shit in Texas? A cop shot a brother in his parents' driveway for absolutely no reason.
ReplyDeleteYes. They thought he was driving a stolen car. You know, like black males aren't suppose to own a nice car.
God help the young man!
Obama is not Jesus people... And Field of course things will get worse when has it ever been great for minorities in America. Hell, they tried to take Obama out many times during the primaries and general election for stupid shit.
ReplyDeleteThe whole point of Obama victory was he was noting going to let racist stop him from reaching his dream. Like so many Blacks, Asians and Hispanics you can not let the haters stop you. If you did your asses would still be sitting in the back of the "Bus".
I feel sorry for the mayor...If it was not for the secret service protecting Obama the man would never have lived to be president.
ReplyDeleteSo, field Obama is not being treated any different then how this poor black mayor is suffering. Once again if it was not for Secret service Obama would not have made it out of the first primary in Iowa.
Well, when people like Roland Burris and Bobby Rush scream fake asses racism to cover for a crooked Gov. Blago.
ReplyDeleteIt starts to make the race card seem very real. And in your heart you and I both know there are plenty of Black people when they can't get their way scream racism. Doing this only make people like Mayor Charles Tyson who are suffering real racism pay for others crying wolf. So, thanks Bobby "Don't Lynch Me" Rush and Jesse "Who's my baby Mama" Jackson.
Antonio,
ReplyDeleteHouston cops are tied with Los Angeles cops as the most lawless, corrupt assholes permitted to wear a badge and carry a gun.
If you're Black and live in Houston, it's best you carry a gun to protect yourself, not from the crooks but from the "po-lees."
Obama's election to the nation's highest office does not mean that racism is dead. It means that a black person can achieve his/her goals IN SPITE OF RACISM (just like Obama). Racism can no longer be an EXCUSE FOR FAILURE.
ReplyDeleteanon 9:50
ReplyDeleteNaw Naw Naw. Harry Reid thought he could pull a George Wallace and got played. Blago went gangsta on him. Bobby Rush told the cold hard ass truth. I know it's hard for some of you to deal with, BUT.... Reid wanted to continue his all white boy club & got straight up punked!
Eyes Wide Open.
"Like so many Blacks, Asians and Hispanics you can not let the haters stop you. If you did your asses would still be sitting in the back of the "Bus"."
ReplyDeleteStop us?
I don't want them to shoot us!
Stop the threatening phone calls and vandalism as well.
"And in your heart you and I both know there are plenty of Black people when they can't get their way scream racism."
ReplyDeleteGee Field, looks like you have Bill Bennett's afterbirth posting here.
Anonymous, when folks like you can't get your way what do you yell?
Political correctness?
Affirmation action?
Anti-American?
Black guys have bigger d!cks?
State District Judge Joan Huffman's recommendation was the latest court victory for Josiah Sutton, 22, who was freed from prison more than a year ago after new DNA tests discredited the original analysis performed by the Houston Police Department crime lab. Huffman said "inaccurate scientific evidence was admitted during the trial" and there was "clear and convincing evidence that no reasonable juror would have convicted him in light of the new evidence."
ReplyDeletehttp://www.talkleft.com/story/2004/04/12/906/85824
Josiah Sutton of Houston, Tx was wrongly convicted of rape and served 4 1/2 years behind bars before DNA testing exonerated him. Josiah Sutton's youth was stolen from him!
No way in hell Josiah's DNA matched. Houston Police crime lab made that up!
The lab's DNA section was shut down in 2002 after an independent audit found inaccuracies in analysis procedures.
" Naw Naw Naw. Harry Reid thought he could pull a George Wallace and got played. Blago went gangsta on him. Bobby Rush told the cold hard ass truth. I know it's hard for some of you to deal with, BUT.... Reid wanted to continue his all white boy club & got straight up punked!"
ReplyDeleteDon't worry it won't be an all White Boy club soon. Roland Burris will get to the seat for two years. Then when he loses in 2010 you can come back to this Blog and blame Harry Reid for the White voters in that area for voting to keep Roland Burris out. In order for Burris to hold on to the seat he will need a certain number of White votes. I'm sure Burris spokes person ex-Black panther Bobby Rush will help to bring in those White votes in 2010.
LOL@ Obama getting better treament. They wouldn't let him stay at the Blair House! Looks like old habits die hard.
ReplyDeleteI don't know why people expected things to get better. Things are different. The racist white ego is bruised and that means more trouble actually. A new study out shows that people are more racist than they think. Yeah, like we need a study to tell us that.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/07/racism.study/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
is this the boxer dude or the chicken dude!?!?!
ReplyDeletewe're a bit confused out here in the trailerPark.....
and why did Bart shoot someone...is'nt it just a cartoon on Fox??? home of Hannity and O'rilley
"Obama's election to the nation's highest office does not mean that racism is dead. It means that a black person can achieve his/her goals IN SPITE OF RACISM (just like Obama). Racism can no longer be an EXCUSE FOR FAILURE."
ReplyDeleteLOL! What a deluded arguement. First look at how high Obama had to jump to get to it. If he was white, he would have needed a quarter the effort to wipe out McCain. In essence you are endorsing that a black person has to work multiple times harder than a white person to get to the same goal. Isn't that an evolution of slavery? Do the work of 2 or more people to be counted as one.
And in terms of human value, this argument suggests that 2 or more black people equal to one white person. Ah, the wonders of white privilage! And many white people think this 'work twice as hard ethic' for blacks is actually okay conviniently forgetting that we are supposed to be lazy.
"Don't worry it won't be an all White Boy club soon."
ReplyDeleteSomeone's dreaming of a White senate LOL!
And what about the 3 paisan in Staten Island who were so incensed by Obama's election that they decided to do a little nightriding.
ReplyDeleteOf course it was Staten Island, the NY borough with smallest black population.
If these 3 rednecks really wanted some race war, they would have gone over to Brownsville or Bed-Stuy where there was plenty of blacks to attack.
But you know how that goes.
http://www.startribune.com/nation/37208494.html?elr=KArks:DCiUMEaPc:UiacyKUU
I think it is the boxer.
ReplyDeleteNo, you dumbass that's Mike Tyson. This is his Dad...DUH
ReplyDeleteNot a good picture can't see both his ears are they there?
ReplyDeleteSo, looks like the white folks in some parts like Texas and So. Jersey and Oakland haven't gotten the "racism is dead" memo.
ReplyDeleteEric Holder, if you make it thru confirmation, you can do a LOT of good if you prosecute hate crimes with the same amount of force reserved for suspected terrorists.
If these 3 rednecks really wanted some race war, they would have gone over to Brownsville or Bed-Stuy where there was plenty of blacks to attack.
ReplyDeleteThe punk ass bitches don't have the fucking balls. I dare them. I really dare them.
Black guys have bigger d!cks?
ReplyDeleteROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Ain't Mad!!!!!
bet the rednecks are better shot....lol
ReplyDeleteused to shooting those pesky deer
they don't miss like the bangers
Black guys have bigger d!cks?
ReplyDeleteROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Ain't Mad!!!!!
2:44 PM
maybe that's the problem? all the blood going to the wrong place????
The question is? why would a AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, run for office, in a basically WHITE COMMUNITY anyway, did he forget that he was BLACK, did he forget that, his dream, was not the white man's dream, so now, we have a BLACK MAN running for cover, he had a sample of the alive and well GENERATIONAL RACISM, he had a rude awakening! GOOD, the WHITE folk's took the scale's off his eye's, they showed him, who they truly were, now he need's to take himself into the BLACK COMMUNITY and help built it up, that's where he is needed. and I do not want to hear anything about him, having the right to be a MAYOR, no, he has the right to wake up, out of his DELUSION.
ReplyDeleteFIELD NEGRO, I don't know if you were sleep, during the campaign, but, their were thing's going on behind the scene as far as BARACK'S SECURITY, that the media dare not release, because it may have caused a race riot, so when you talk about BARACK being safe guarded, I THANK GOD, that he was, and I would like to see the BLACK MAN, that could have endured what BARACK endured, he was LYNCHED on a daily basis, by FOX NEW'S, and he still is! and yes I watch every thing, they came after his wife, and yet he stayed in the RACE, he stayed until the very end, BARACK had a PURPOSE, and the MAYOR was in the wrong PLACE at the wrong TIME.
The problem with what?
ReplyDeleteIf one of those 'necks would have came into my neighborhood popping that RAHOWA mess, I would have put a .45 hollow point right between their beady little eyes and immediately called the authorities afterward to tell 'em what I did.
As Chris Rock would say "No problem. Just get pardoned by the black President!"
Oh Lawd.
ReplyDeleteBaltimore Mayor Sheila Dixon just got indicted.
Dayum.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2009/01/09/baltimore-mayor-indicted/
Brother Field...age and history has brought another Black man to reality. Was about to hang up the beret...PS.. Since Brother O has gained his position, a lot of latent hostilities have come my way just in adult daily living (ADLs) in the community. Blacks, in my opinion, operate in the extremes or so it's shown. Either we are the first or the worse. The strength I know is in the middle...working on the middle will rise the bottom, when they decide to come along.
ReplyDeleteditto!!!
ReplyDeleteracism is as real as ever in perpetually racist america...
even with our bi-racial president...
is this brother biracial too?
that may have made it easier as it indeed did for obama...
tragic,
ab
OUTLOOK
http://aliciabanks.blogspot.com
Racism is as American as apple pie.
ReplyDeleteTo get over the anomaly of electing a black President, it seems now the media consensus is that he is Biracial. He wasn't Biracial way back when. If he had lost, he would be black.
Anything that translates into good even if its a black person, has to be explained in White terms. Recently I heard a commentator refer to a successful Nigerian as an Anglo-Nigerian,WTH!
What is an Anglo Nigerian??????
"GOOD, the WHITE folk's took the scale's off his eye's, they showed him, who they truly were, now he need's to take himself into the BLACK COMMUNITY and help built it up, that's where he is needed. and I do not want to hear anything about him, having the right to be a MAYOR, no, he has the right to wake up, out of his DELUSION."
ReplyDeleteI think that is the moral of this story. Successful black people should stop running to white communities. Make your own safe and liveable insead of running to those already built up by whites.
Anything that translates into good even if its a black person, has to be explained in White terms.
ReplyDeleteDon't you know---errything black folks have, white folks want it.
Paul Mooney was spot on!
completely off-topic: the murder count is off to a slow start this year
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ci.baltimore.md.us/mayor
ReplyDeleteanother negro to be proud of....
WTF are ya'll doing?
Baltimore Mayor Sheila A. Dixon a Democrat was charged today by the state prosecutor in a 12-count indictment, becoming the city's first sitting mayor indicted on criminal offenses.
ReplyDeleteDixon was charged with four counts of perjury and two counts of theft over $500, as well as theft under $500, fraudulent misappropriation by a fiduciary and misconduct in office. The charges stem in part from gifts she received from former boyfriend and developer Ronald H. Lipscomb, who was also charged earlier this week.
Prosecutors say that in December 2006, Dixon used Old Navy, Best Buy and other gift cards intended for needy families for an Xbox 360, a PlayStation Portable, clothes and other items for her own use.
ReplyDeletemean old whitie...no wait she's black never mind it's ok.
South Jersey is the south.
ReplyDelete"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.”~~Howard Zinn~~
ReplyDeletemaybe that's what Dixon thought he meant....LOL
D@mned... Stories like this makes me sick. Can't stand to hear that in 2009 we still have a minority of people out there hating like this.
ReplyDeleteWhat's worse is that the majority of people put up with this from their internal minority and don't stand up to it and pass it off as "silly" or "stupid." Not realizing the implications it have for someone of color in reality.
Um, is Robbie Tolan biracial?
ReplyDeleteI have to say I'm feeling Anony 3:06 PM's comment. Especially the first paragraph. (And I won't be surprised if his wife is white as well).
ReplyDeleteAnony 9:23 pm, I was wondering the same thing. If so, mommy clearly defeated her purpose.
Next.
"completely off-topic: the murder count is off to a slow start this year"
ReplyDeleteDon't worry Chris it's picking up again.
And yes folks, the B-More mayor was my HNOTD a few months ago. The indictment doesn't surprise me.
BTW Field, will you be doing the run on the Tuesday or will you wait until the next day?
ReplyDelete"GOOD, the WHITE folk's took the scale's off his eye's, they showed him, who they truly were, now he need's to take himself into the BLACK COMMUNITY and help built it up, that's where he is needed. and I do not want to hear anything about him, having the right to be a MAYOR, no, he has the right to wake up, out of his DELUSION."
ReplyDeleteYou "successful black people should come back into the black community and build it up" folks are also delusional. There is no black community to build up. For example, stats show that approximately HALF of all black men in New York City are unemployed. "Successful" black people DO NOT have jobs to give these men. "Successful" black people do NOT have the resources to "build up" your so-called "black community". Whatever resources "successful" black people have should be spent on themselves and THEIR children.
"Successful" black people may want to look into starting communities for SUCCESSFUL BLACK PEOPLE so that they and their children can be safe from predatory underclass black people. Underclass black people should be KEPT OUT of these communities for successful blacks at all costs. The bottom line is that middle class black people and underclass black people can no longer relate without conflict. We HAVE DIFFERENT VALUES. Already, quietly, a PERMANENT separation between middle class blacks and underclass blacks is occurring and there is no turning back.
It's things like this that make me ashamed of my melanin deficient brethren. How dare they make this seemingly decent and honorable man feel threatened to assume elected office. The will of the people and human decency supersedes racial clannishness in civilization.
ReplyDeleteIf the same treatment was done to whites it elicits anger. When it happens to people in other races it brings out my empathy. This white guy apologizes for the scum that did this.
Race baiter is actually more accurate, though i get the lawyer joke inherent in the sobriquet. I used to read this site differently or maybe I am a racist after all but it seems the methodology of the moderator here isn't all that dissimilar to what Palin did in chumming the waters to bring all the wingnut haters to the surface so they can make all the death threats and racists remarks. There is always some passive show of restraint or a faint hearted yet insincere nod to the middle or the common sense crowd but the real message in this blog lately has been all about the White Devil. Too bad too cause it's like a great airplane that has all the bells and whistles but only circles the same runway without ever getting free of its racist atmosphere, needless to say it remains grounded and never gets off the same tired divisive terrain. Somewhere somebody else is working in the same direction to get off the ground and do something new as Ernesto says so incisively see this movie before... ( Yeah dude you're right you're a racist, everything you said is white supremacist b.s.next comment..) The problem with this passive aggressive racism is that you really cost yourself support from people who are even minded and will hear you out.
ReplyDelete[quote]And honestly folks, I hate to be (what is it one regular to the fields calls me? ) a "racism chaser", but sometimes racism just won't get out of the damn way. [/quote]
ReplyDeleteMy homeboy Field-Negro makes me chuckle from time to time.
Get it right though. You are a "Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive-Fundamentalist Racism Chaser". You are messing up the "Feng Shui" of the label when you take bits and pieces of it rather than using it in its entirety.
Side note - do you notice that you and WhiteBowieSteve always have to throw in some sucker punch about Black Conservatives and Fox News in just about every story and post? It seems to have some sort of orgasmic effect upon you. I only wonder where the "conservatives" are in Oakland that are going to allow the Establishment Progressives and the Anarchist Progressives to not have a civil war. Indeed with the evil Racist Republicans in exile you are going to have to double your propaganda efforts. You need far more anti-Fox News logos on your "right side strip of shame" Filled-Negro.
Back to the story.
You see Filled Negro I did some RESEARCH. You know us West Philly guys are "show me" type of fellas. I wondered "Where is South Harrison Township New Jersey?" This den of White supremacy and no doubt a pocket of Republican backlash against the Black guy.
Here is a map of where South Harrison Township is relative to CAMDEN.
http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=South+Harrison+Township,+New+Jersey&geocode=&dirflg=&saddr=camden,+nj&f=d&sll=39.698734,-75.259094&sspn=1.540527,3.56781&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=11
You see Filled Negro being that South Jersey is surrounded by so many threatening points of reference on one's life I had a hard time choosing.
I could have plotted the distance to:
* Philly
* Trenton
* West Chester
* Wilmington DE
Thus Filled Negro I must add one of my key "focus words" that must be used as a FILTER against your cherry picking and propaganda.
Filled Negro if the good mayor Charles Taylor were to walk through his own city OR if he were to walk through Camden - which of these two events would more likely insure that his next appearance in the newspaper would be in the obituary section?
Thus my focus word for you is "PROPORTIONALITY".
If you fail to introduce the PROPORTIONALITY of the threat that you wish to propagandize as compared to the PROPORTIONAL THREAT that a Black man living in the Greater Philadelphia has you in effect practice another attribute that I have assigned to BQPFRCs in the past "Non-White White Supremacy". The tendency to consider threats from White folks as greater than those from Blacks despite what the statistics say.
I will look out for a posting on this story from you later:
Baltimore Mourns Parents, Five Children Killed in Alleged Revenge Arson
http://www.blackpressusa.com/news/Article.asp?SID=3&Title=National+News&NewsID=2632
am a racist after all but it seems the methodology of the moderator here isn't all that dissimilar to what Palin did in chumming the waters to bring all the wingnut haters to the surface so they can make all the death threats and racists remarks. There is always some passive show of restraint or a faint hearted yet insincere nod to the middle or the common sense crowd but the real message in this blog lately has been all about the White Devil. Too bad too cause it's like a great airplane that has all the bells and whistles but only circles the same runway without ever getting free of its racist atmosphere, needless to say it remains grounded and never gets off the same tired divisive terrain. Somewhere somebody else is working in the same direction to get off the ground and do something new as Ernesto says so incisively see this movie before... ( Yeah dude you're right you're a racist, everything you said is white supremacist b.s.next comment..) The problem with this passive aggressive racism is that you really cost yourself support from people who are even minded and will hear you out.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you want Black people to do? Cry to Non-Blacks on the fence folks like you and gnash our teeth and beg for your forgiveness that we are so reactionary and racist and grovel for some understanding as your throw paltry bits of commiseration and listen to the usual trite response that everyone is racist, it’s human nature and that we should all come together and sing Kum Bay Ya. How is protesting and being angry about what happen alienating and discriminating to whites who can dip their toe in the miasma but ALWAYS have the LUXURY to dust of the racist tar and muck of Black stench and walk away when it get uncomfortable and ultimately incomprehensible. Gays, Native Americans, Women and Jews can talk until their blue in the face and no one tells them to shut the hell up. But Blacks even with all the gains we made in the country as a despised minority in this country and around the world are consistently told to tone down the hate filled rhetoric, and to stop being such pansy whining weaklings. The worst part is Palin and Company highlighted the racism the xenophobia of many White people that are part of the Real America, but I guess that its aberration from the Twilight Zone and we should ignore those folks as well.
Thus, how is Field Negro highlighting an issue which is clearly racist and discriminatory alienating White people? Whites are always yelling at Blacks for using the old, tired, battered race card bludgeon to make them feel bad, guilty and using every injustice as a lynchpin to obfuscate Black inferiority, weakness and failure. But whites, as always are free and above blame. Forget how pristine, pure and perfect the whole White race is, Everyone wants your history, your features, and your slot on the racial hierarchy, yet it’s the psychopathic or should I say schizophrenic obsessive foibles of Black people that make it difficult for Blacks to engage whites with western civility, since we are so busy harping on race. However, the horrible thing about this whole line of reasoning is that if Black says nothing about how we are perceived and treated, then NOTHING would be talked about or done. Absolutely nothing. It would of course as usual be rationalized away with Eugenic talking points and genetic evidence that we are inferior as most whites often suspect with the exceptions of those few precious magical blacks.
Odd thing is Black people can’t run from White people like Randal Robinson or run back to Africa. We have to come to terms with our number on the totem pole and if our history is any indication, we have always tried to work with and TRIED to BE LIKE and ACCEPTED by white people.
Thank you Dark Moon, well said. And to think, some of my best friends really are white. :)
ReplyDelete"Too bad too cause it's like a great airplane that has all the bells and whistles but only circles the same runway without ever getting free of its racist atmosphere, needless to say it remains grounded and never gets off the same tired divisive terrain."
We would love to take off from the runway, but the air traffic controllers won't give us the green light. Apparently the weather is still too bad up there. Too many racist clouds, and xenophobic wind sheers. ;)
[Un]constructive feedback, as a West Philly guy you should teach your repub pals to start walking the walk more if they really want to expand their tent. It's that simple.
As for FOX, I would love to leave them alone, but they are such easy targets.
I have no republican pals but I am pretty clear that I have even fewer here as I am not black enough or gay or jewish enough or somehow able to claim what passes for liberal disenfranchisement these days. It's not you it's me like they say in singles bars. It's only un constructive because there is no way on earth you'd ever listen to it. I love when black guys say some of their best friends are white without any hint of irony. Yeah and some of mine are even women if you can believe that... It is race baiting and I don't care to have anyone shut up and go away, God knows that's not an answer but either is the stuff I've been reading here. You know BFP right ? black folks probation : it's the period of time a new white person serves under watch until it is deemed that this white guy is o.k. and not a racist asshole by blacks in the same workplace. You may not admit it but I have been dealing with it since I began my career 22 yrs ago and it's real. I also pass every time too but I notice that the more educated the black people involved the stingier the return and the strenuous the period of inspection and exclusion. I'd also go as far as saying the less educated folks are the less likely they are to revert to their original suspicions. Yet the most educated and more powerful blacks I have worked with tend to be more petty, vindictive and likely to play it by the color game before anything else. Maybe I forgot about that but I'll try to keep it in mind. Being angry is good too, be angry why not. And while you're being angry you can go right on convincing yourself that there's no white hostility here beyond what's acceptable or justifiable but it's bullshit cause this thing is about a bad sneeze from becoming a hate site. Moving on.
ReplyDeleteThe BART murder of an innocent black man by a cop (actually a quasi-rent a cop)was tragic, makes you wanna crush bones. But let's debate this: More black people have been murdered by other black people..and let's not leave out turned out, made addicts, domestically abused, raped, put in freezers by foster parents in the last 30 years than the NYPD, LAPD and the damn Klan combined. And yet no black folks but the wingnut Toms on Fox News make a sound. Why? Hmmm....
ReplyDeletetaken from Christoper Chambers' NatTurner's Revenge site
[quote][Un]constructive feedback, as a West Philly guy you should teach your repub pals to start walking the walk more if they really want to expand their tent. It's that simple. [/quote]
ReplyDeleteField-Negro - your response speaks volumes. Please afford me the opportunity to properly contextualize your comments.
In the Black community and many working class communities there is little to no REPUBLICAN representation.
To this fact you say what you have said above.
This would be sound reasoning IF the only mission was for the REPUBLICANS to work for the Black vote. This only stands in the context of your notion of "politics as a team sport".
Here is the problem Filled Negro:
In these same places where the Democratic Party holds dominion over the Black vote (Southwest Philly, Camden, Southwest Atlanta, Southside of Chicago) are ALSO places where Black folks continue to have heightened grievances!
Isn't it quite ironic, Filled Negro that you chastise the REPUBLICAN PARTY to CHANGE so that it might have the BENEFIT of receiving the Black vote. All the while you FAIL to make not that during the present DOMINATION OF THE DEMOCRATS....the BLACK COMMUNITY is not in an advanced state of healing?
I find this a quite perverted rationalization coming from you.
In greater Philadelphia there is cause célèbre as Democrats make gains in formerly conservative suburbs. The key reason for this, Filled Negro is because of "PROGRESSIVE FLIGHT". (Don't you think I keep in contact with my friends in Philly and understand their motivations?)
They are moving OUT into more CONSERVATIVE enclaves in order to consume quality education, public safety and a more sound economic base.
Filled Negro - what you NEED TO BE DOING is working to line up the CONSUMER DEMANDS for a given "standard of living" with the POLICIES that have been more effective at DELIVERING IT. Certainly the regime that controls West/SW/N Philly is not delivering.
At minimum Filled Negro - why not extract the "essence of conservative living' that "Flying Progressives" are attracted to and then work in earnest to CHANGE the policies within the core Progressive/Democratic domain to adopt these key points.
Don't worry Filled Negro - I won't tell anyone of this change in course will continuing your same voting pattern.
Rastamick...I was referring to [Un]constructive feedback, not you. But let me address your concerns: Have you not noticed the countless posts and comments on this site by black people regarding the need for black folks to get their s**t together? I think we are more honest with ourselves than people tend to give us credit for. Maybe your hyper sensitivity to this issue has to do with your own personal pathologies that you might need to work on. I can't help you there my friend. I can only continue to speak and write it how I see it. That offends some....scratch that. That offends a lot of people (including your friend [Un]constructive feedback, because it's not how they want to see things; or the truth just hurts them too much.
ReplyDelete[Un]constructive, once again you are missing the point. This is not about repub.dem. it's about doing what is best for the survival of a race. You are caught up in a silly ideological debate which I refuse to be a part of. Out here in the REAL world where we face REAL problems, folks don't have time for the petty ideological bull-shit. I pick on republicans only because they are more dangerous. and because most of the things that they stand for is the very antithesis of black progress and survival. Dumbocrats may be incompetent, but they are not nefarious towards those ends.
BTW, thanks for the compliment, although you might want to remove the word "quasi" out of "quasi Socialist" when giving me my title. ;)
[quote]This is not about repub.dem. it's about doing what is best for the survival of a race. You are caught up in a silly ideological debate which I refuse to be a part of. Out here in the REAL world where we face REAL problems, folks don't have time for the petty ideological bull-shit. I pick on republicans only because they are more dangerous. and because most of the things that they stand for is the very antithesis of black progress and survival.[/quote]
ReplyDeleteFilled Negro:
I saw an inkling of your inner frustrations a few weeks ago when you brought forth the issue about the "Trans-fats Obfuscation" from the Philly City Council - thus I will continue my work on opening your mind.
Filled Negro - your diatribe up above amounts to the "Pot Calling the Kettle A Nigra". You don't even believe it yourself.
You see - THIS IS INDEED ABOUT "Saving A Race". The ironic thing that YOU can't seem to accept is that "the race in question" is ALREADY bound to your way of thinking or at least is in tuned to your kind of HELP.
As the great Fredrick Douglas said:
[quote]In regard to the colored people, there is always more that is benevolent, I perceive, than just, manifested towards us. What I ask for the negro is not benevolence, not pity, not sympathy, but simply justice. The American people have always been anxious to know what they shall do with us... I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us! If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are worm-eaten at the core, if they are early ripe and disposed to fall, let them fall! ... And if the negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone! ... your interference is doing him positive injury.
o "What the Black Man Wants" — speech in Boston, Massachusetts (1865-01-26) [/quote]
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Filled Negro:
You know that I am not a Republican. You cannot FIND ONE SINGLE TIME in which I have asked ANYONE to vote Republican. I am a Black Conservative Independent. My primary mission at this point is to Push the Democrat Party out of the NUCLEUS OF OUR RACIAL CONSCIOUSNESS, forcing them to COMPETE for our vote and loyalties.
You say that the "Republicans are more dangerous". This is from the perspective of WHERE YOU STAND and thus what you view as HELPFUL POLICIES for Black folks.
I can go down the list of policies that are POPULARLY ASSUMED to be in the BEST INTERESTS OF BLACK AMERICA that don't stand up to this measure. In truth much of what the Progressive-Fundamentalist sees as producing our BEST INTERESTS is, in fact, ABSTRACTING OUR COMMUNITY from having to fundamentally order ourselves so that our basic civility and productivity are applied to our living standard.
This AIN'T about PARTISANSHIP Filled Negro. If the Democratic and Republican parties were to disappear today NOTHING WOULD CHANGE in Black America. Likewise - with so many cities where Black folks are concentrated in being 85%+ Democratic controlled cities - and we STILL don't have that fabled promised land implemented within there are two things going on Filled Negro:
1) We need to TRY HARDER at doing the same thing because despite the local domination of the favored order - things have not substantively improved
2) There is a big time charade going on where the masses have been lead to believe that certain policies will produce a favorable outcome and yet as they are more isolated in areas where these theories predominate - their condition continues to atrophy. The ironic result is that despite having the reigns of their local communities the FAILURE to develop the internal infrastructure to express more ORGANIC productivity has them seeing their state of being ALL ALONE as a violation of SOCIAL JUSTICE by the national authorities and the PEOPLE WHO VACATED THEM.
Filled Negro this IS about IDEOLOGY and it is about a conflict in the plans forward.
I MUST, I MUST, I MUST!!!! Hold the Black Establishment that has the POWER and rolls over all questions - ACCOUNTABLE for their failure to deliver results WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. They want us to believe that by obtaining POWER in the domain of American Politics - via the Democratic Party that this is going to translate into prosperity in the Internal Social/Cultural/Economic domain WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
Filled Negro - Black folks like YOU are so smitten with your own IDEOLOGICAL BIGOTRY that you are unable to take a step back and inspect the equation that you are being fed.
I am not asking you to become a Black Conservative. I am not asking you to become a Republican.
I AM asking you to stop being PLAYED for a FOOL and graciously acting the part.
What happens when your last enemy departs (and Fox News goes off of the air because they are labeled a "hate source" by the progressive hegemony?)
Will your VEHICLE carry you and your community forward to where you want to go?
http://www.buffalonews.com/258/story/545370.html
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Un and I aren't friends but I do think he's detected the very same falseness I have. My pathologies are all well under control thanks, if I needed a lawyer to fix any of them I would hang it up. Do what you will and continue to tell yourself that it's fair and balanced and on the level. My sensitivities on any of what i wrote are not that fragile either I accept racial bullshit when I have to and deal with it as it occurs. If there's anything I am very sensitive to it's bullshit and for every Christopher Chambers you have on here talking sense you have 12 Shabazzes and some other clown pronouncing his absolute disrespect for law enforcement -- a mature take there too. For the times I have read this blog and extended my own benefit of thedoubt I'm seeing now that there's no connection possible here especially as of late when this endless race baiting is about the only issue. I almost wonder if there's some pre-emptive anxiety that people are afraid if/when O fucks up it will be one more thing that particular whites will hate blacks for. Yeah probably.
ReplyDelete"What happens when your last enemy departs (and Fox News goes off of the air because they are labeled a "hate source" by the progressive hegemony?)
ReplyDeleteWill your VEHICLE carry you and your community forward to where you want to go?"
YES!
I want to start a debate with adults. Am I in the right place?
ReplyDeleteThis is not for the faint of heart or mind. All I ask is honest, well thought responses.
Are you ready?
Why do black people hate the republicans?
"Why do black people hate the republicans?"
ReplyDeleteguiltfreewhitey, that's a fair question. Although I don't think "hate" is the proper way to describe how MOST of us feel about repubs. (Hate is a strong word)
But, to take a stab at ansewring your question: it's because we honestly believe that the feeling is mutual. Black folks have very good radars, and our radars(Honest Abe not withstanding) tell us that repubs just kind of wish we would go away.
[quote]Why do black people hate the republicans?[/quote]
ReplyDeleteGuiltFreeWhitey:
You have to understand the power of the entrenched Black Establishment and the Ideological bigotry that is contained with the poplar Black political machine to fully understand the reasons for this relationship.
First let me take the traction from under my friend Filled Negro's feet by pointing to one courageous Black woman from our past - FANNIE LOU HAMER.
You see GuiltFreeWhitey - back during the 1964 Democratic Convention in Atlantic City Ms Hamer was undaunted by the attempt of the RACIST Democrats to refuse her a seat at the convention. She had her EYES ON THE PRIZE - focusing on the fact that Blacks in Mississippi and elsewhere needed political representation regardless of if the Democrats LIKED BLACKS OR NOT. She traveled to Atlantic City on her own accord and fought for INCLUSION and for RULES CHANGES within the racist Democratic party at the time.
Fast forward to to-damned-day GuiltFreeWhitey. We have in our race DEMOCRATIC OPERATIVES who drive home the point that THE BLACK VOTE MUST NOT BE SPLIT lest we dilute our voting power. These are the words of various "Democrats who are Black" (as opposed to Blacks who simply choose to vote Democrat). They don't mind having the Black vote split among 2 Democrats (Obama and Hillary).....as long as it is within the BLACK GENERAL ELECTION - which is the Democratic Primary. Now keep in mind that if you do choose to go against the favored Democrat as some Hillary supporters did - the left wing extreme movement will attempt to "Republicanify you" as they did with so many Congressional Black Caucus members who stood with them for so long.
GuiltFreeWhitey - even the late Representative Stephanie Tubbs Jones was attacked for being a Hillary Supporter. She was called a "Handkerchief Head Negro" for going against the mob. Just 2 years earlier she wore a "silk scarf" upon her head as she fought hard to get the Democrats back in control of congress. She told Black folks about how wonderful this would be and the benefits of having several Black Democratic committee heads.
So lets step back a bit GuiltFreeWhitey - what this shows is that there is a certain self-promoted NUCLEUS within the Black political machine which seeks to DEFINE what all Black people in good standing SHOULD DO.
If you dare to go against them they are going to paint you as a Klan sympathizing, slavery supporting, pro-oppression, child conceived from the homosexual relationship between Clarence Thomas and Ward Connerly, who is on the Bush payroll - and that you do in fact secretly lust after the White daughters of those White conservatives who control him.
As I step back and do my analysis GuiltFreeWhitey - this is "UNCHECKED GROUP BEHAVIOR 101". The POWER of the majority to defile and roll over the minority is well documented. Most Black folks look at White governments, corporations or monied interests as being the forces that do such trampling. In fact - they themselves have learned well from their enemies.
What we have in the Black community is a basic ABSTRACTION from the original purposes that we started our POLITICAL ACTIVISM for. Where as it was originally to secure our basic rights and our ability to be FREE - today it has morphed into the BLOODY TEAM SPORT of POLITICS. You focus on YOUR SIDE winning - regardless of if your community actually benefits from the TEAM'S victory.
Here is the frustrating point that I have been attempting to argue GuiltFreeWhitey:
So much of the Black Progressive activist movement has been to FIGHT AGAINST the establishment (ie: the government) because it has trampled upon our rights, has failed to educate our children, has failed to keep us safe within our own homes. The irony comes in when we look at the places where my people are most concentrated. The statement "Black folks don't vote for Republicans" is not translated into the fact that THERE ARE NO REPUBLICANS RUNNING POLITICAL DISTRICTS WHERE BLACKS MAKE UP THE MAJORITY.
My logic tells me that the COROLLARY should be argued - "That PEOPLE OF OUR OWN POPULAR CHOOSING ARE NOW RUNNING OUR COMMUNITIES" and thus THEY should be held accountable for the delivery of that which they promised.
GuiltFreeWhitey - one final construct that I must introduce to you is that of the "Vertically Integrated Message Machine" that broadcasts to the Black community and thus shapes the messages. Isn't it ironic that the very same progressives who worry about MEDIA OWNERSHIP because the consequences will be the lack of diversity in the MESSAGES don't say a damned thing about what is present within the Black community?
The vertically integrated message machine includes:
* Politicians
* Protesters (Civil Rights orgs)
* Policy Makers (lobbyist groups)
* Press (the Black Press - full of "progressives")
* Performers (singers, rappers, actors)
* Preachers
* Public School Teachers
* Pro-Union Labor forces
(The 8P's of Progressive Propaganda)
Just extrapolate for a moment GuiltFreeWhitey - if Tubbs-Jones and Rangel and Waters - all Democrats were attacked for supporting the Clintons - who THEMSELVES were "good guys" to most Black progressives prior to Obama getting into the race - is there any chance in HELL that a Black person who IS NOT A DEMOCRAT or a PROGRESSIVE will escape the wrath of the 8P's?
I work hard to shift the argument from IDEOLOGICAL LOYALTIES over to THE DELIVERY UPON OUR GOALS. Instead of focusing on the METHODOLOGY and its alignment with what you favor it is important that we MEASURE THE EFFICACY of its ability to DELIVER.
Like all monopolies though the 8P's do not like being QUESTIONED.
The only threat to the 8P's power is the BLACK COMMUNITY who tires of the empty promises and who refuses to continue the RACISM CHASE. The fact that they are ALL ALONE in their communities, HAVE the people who they favor ideologically/politically IN POWER......and YET AND STILL the "Negroes on Stage with a Mic in their Hands" CONTINUE to spew the same messages that are centrally focused on the EXTERNAL CHASE after Republicans/Racists/Conservatives who NO LONGER LIVE AMONG THEM - is going to one day run out of gas.
Sadly though - since the 8Ps have not developed any particular INTERNAL FRAMEWORK for ORGANIC PROGRESSION - the people are more inclined to RIOT as an expression of their frustration than they are to PURGE their current leadership and chart a new course.
Thus the intractability of this anti-Republican force that you ask about is that THE PEOPLE FUNDAMENTALLY HAVE NO WHERE ELSE TO GO but an ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT pathway. Thus those who ARE THE ESTABLISHMENT but who also foment anti-establishment politics have no choice but to MOVE THE GOAL POSTS and hunt down the "conservative establishment" where ever it has departed to.
The Republicans will remain the useful whipping boys until the MASSES start demanding that those who THEY gave power to PRODUCE rather than CHASE.
Hey Filled Negro:
ReplyDeleteWhere as the mayor in the New Jersey town may fear some rouge racist Whites - the city of Houston is focusing in on a different sort of domestic terrorists whom are causing fear within the Black community:
Houston Mayor asks Black Leaders to assist in addressing Black on Black Homicide Problem:
http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2009/01/houston-mayor-asks-black-leadership-to.html
Aren't you tired of empty talk Filled Negro?
Don't worry Guiltfreewhitey (is there any other kind?)
ReplyDeleteCultural Stategist is one negro who LOVES him some white folks.
The more conservative, the better.
I believe that fool would set up a KKK linen cleaning service if he could.
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ReplyDeleteCultural Stategist is one negro who LOVES him some white folks.The more conservative, the better.[/quote]
WhiteBowieSteve:
You are correct about that one. I LUV me some WHITE FOLKS!!
You see about 13 years ago as newlyweds - my brown skinned wife and I searched around for a good place to raise a family. After much research on the quality of schools, low crime rates, traditional family values and low confiscatory tax rates so that we could hoard all of our money and not SHARE with anyone else - we chose what was then a lily White, CONSERVATIVE town. Since there had been no reports of Black folks being lynched in the city or county - as represented in the low crime and homicide rates - we felt safe moving in.
Fast forward to about 5 years ago Steve. I began to see that "Black Flight PROGRESSIVES" valued the very same thing that me, a self-professed Black conservative valued in a place to live.
They were motivated to move to town due to the problems that they faced in their progressive enclaves which they departed. The joke of the past was that the "county's Democratic party could have their meetings in a phone booth" began to change Steve.
You see Steve where as I am more TRUE to myself and am able to vote for ANYONE, regardless of their party who promise to keep the community standards high in the same way that attracted us here - the "Black Flight Progressives" are seeking to CUSTOMIZE their new residence to be just like the areas that they DEPARTED.
How do you rationalize this behavior Steve? They leave the places where their preferred policies are in place and move RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THEIR CONSERVATIVE ENEMIES. They continue to VOTE in accordance with the progressives that they departed because they can continue to claim that they are "connected with the little people".
In truth, Steve, they don't want to have their SKIN IN THE GAME (or that of their school aged children) but they continue their support for the policies that will help the "little people" - just as long as THEY are not forced to ride on the same ship that these others are on.
You may not agree with me Steve - but at least I am more CONSISTENT between my ideology and my way of life.
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I believe that fool would set up a KKK linen cleaning service if he could.[/quote]
You are so right Steve.
As long as I took their money for services rendered all would be fine.
Then I could put some clandestine tracking devices within the seams of their garments. Then we would finally be able to tell of the KKK are the ones who are sneaking into various Black communities, KILLING OUR PEOPLE and then sneaking out to avoid detection.
You are going to thank me one day Steve. As I am going to figure out "Who is killing Black people and getting away with murder".
Atlanta's Most Dangerous Block:
http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2009/01/ajc-on-atlantas-most-dangerous-block.html
baiting and I don't care to have anyone shut up and go away, God knows that's not an answer but either is the stuff I've been reading here. You know BFP right ? black folks probation : it's the period of time a new white person serves under watch until it is deemed that this white guy is o.k. and not a racist asshole by blacks in the same workplace. You may not admit it but I have been dealing with it since I began my career 22 yrs ago and it's real. I also pass every time too but I notice that the more educated the black people involved the stingier the return and the strenuous the period of inspection and exclusion.
ReplyDeleteSo What. You willingly choose to go into an all Black space but most blacks have no choice when going into an all white space. I guess like all good negroes we are supposed to throw a party when a White person designs to enter our space and shuck and jive that you would honor us with your presence. We have to deal with White people because we are the minority. I know of too many examples of Blacks going into all white spaces and being seen as defilers, welfare leeches, and intellectual inferiors that will somehow destroy and degrade white spaces and usually a black person has to placate and jump through hoops for whites and non-blacks to show that we aren’t threatening poxes that may destroy their pristine existence. And even if we get grudging acceptance from Whites, they would never see us as anything other than functionaries and nothing more. Yet hipster Whites have no problem invading all black enclaves and demanding acceptance from Blacks there and for the most part are integrated into the community. Try seeing that happen in an all white town or neighborhood. But I keep forgetting how blameless, special and above board most White people are. You all don’t have meth problems, child abuse and domestic violence to the extent that black people do, so whatever small problems you all have is the direct result from being contaminated in some way by loathsome Blacks.
The worse part of this whole thing is that Blacks intimately know our problems and are working to address them no matter how much you think we love to cling to victimhood and professional blaming of white people. Since 1968 we have finally been given comparable rights to Whites and yet because we are a despised minority, are still working to be seen as human and fallible without it being explained as a racial genetic defect that are given a free past for White people. I think it is remarkable the progress that we have made when you look at the Jews and Palestinians who have been fighting each other for centuries to get over too as well as the Irish and the IRA as well. I am sure you all gave the memo to the Bosnian conflict and Russia incessant war with the Baltic States, etc. But since they are white and above being embroiled in hatreds due to land race or religion that last for decades and centuries (European history is rife with that and its only after WWII that White Europeans have made any semblance of working togethersince th Gauls, Vandals , et al crawled out of their caves), then I suppose those are aberrations, just as Charles Stewart, Scot Peterson, Andrea Yates (but oh that was overturned because they felt so sorry for her for killing her own children. Yes White people are so perfect.
Got it.
Whites are perfect you finally got it. And who the fuck says you get an all black space that nobody else can read ? or I want your fucking bullshit approval anyway ? As an irishman I enjoy a good fight just like a lot of blacks do so don't pat yourself too hard on the back for being so fucking oppressed. The internets isn't closed off by color even though you think it is, too bad. In my career i frequently am put in situations where it's an all black party where whites are barely tolerated so if you think my presence on this site is unpleasant too bad I am used to it. Unlike you and in spite of the bullshit I see ( yes even white people can spot bullshit) I still believe that people can say stuff worth listening to no matter what color they are,. Funny you mention m 1968 I spent that summer as a kid living in Wisconsin where my Dad who had just stopped drinking ( yeah we know about drug problems) took a job at a job corps center where all the guys were black kids from southern cities like Birmingham and New Orleans. When the job ended and we moved back there was a riot in the cafeteria over the way some of the white help were treating the kids. One kid wrote to my sister and said they waited until My father and they left because nobody wanted them to be hurt or think it was against them. But you know best I am sure, and all I have are little privileged scraps of white America to go on. The times I have taught expelled or pregnant kids in the ghetto and had to negotiate hostile parents, neighbors, drugs deals, etc etc. have taught me nothing. I think I am better than black people, that's why I come and read blogs like this and Nat Turner's Revenge and Aunt jemima's and Black folks dont' swim and Zack's blog along with Kelly belle's from Cleveland and Dawg from memphis. I read these cause I think I am better and you are inferior, yeah. You need to smarten the fuck up to where you can spot someone who actually seems himself as more of an equal than your tiny imagination could ever imagine. You think I'd stand up for Scot peterson or that skank who drove her kids into the pond ? Cause I am white ? Now that's ignorant. The piece of shit who killed hos 2 yr old son to get out of paying support is also black but he's a piece of shit before he's any color so I don't interpret his crime as racial as much as subhuman and if you think andrea goddamned yates is sane I'd like to sell you some really good stocks.
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