Given the nature of my job I could have my license to carry in Philly in no time. I have this friend who is a gun nut, and he is always telling me that he can get me one of those sweet Korth semi-automatic pistols for a good price. "Come on Field, you can afford it, suck it up and spring for a nice piece." Still, I am resisting the urge to arm myself. I am protected by some fine officers during the day, and I have people -on both sides of the law- who would be all too willing to put in some work for the kid. So, for now, I am good. Hear that wingnuts? Limit your numerous threats to the Internet.
But seriously, the way these wingnuts have been acting lately, I don't know, I might have to reconsider protecting myself when I step out the door.
Ever since his O ness got health care reform to pass, these people have been losing their minds. Spurred on by their leaders such as the crazy Queen from Alaska, they have been doing things like threatening congressmen, and throwing bricks through windows. And, they went as far as to cut the gas lines at the home of the brother of a congressman who voted for health care reform. (Hmmm, I guess Virginia isn't for lovers after all.) Poor James Clayburn, I saw my man on CNN this evening and he still looked scared. He told Wolf Blitzer that he was having flashbacks to those civil rights days. He said that he looked in the eyes of the tea baggers and saw the same hatred he saw back then. Yeah, that kind of hate just doesn't happen overnight with the passing of a bill, Jim. No sir, that hate has been there all along. It's just been hiding under the surface and
waiting to come out.
One wingnut, who is the former leader of some Alabama militia, (good luck on that run for Governor, Artur) left this little gem of a message on his web site:
"So, if you wish to send a message that Pelosi and her party cannot fail to hear, break their windows.
Break them NOW.
Break them and run to break again. Break them under cover of night. Break them in broad daylight. Break them and await arrest in willful, principled civil disobedience. Break them with rocks. Break them with slingshots. Break them with baseball bats.
But BREAK THEM.
The time has come to take your life, your liberty and that of your children and grandchildren into your own two hands and ACT.
It is, after all, more humane than shooting them in self defense."
Break them NOW.
Break them and run to break again. Break them under cover of night. Break them in broad daylight. Break them and await arrest in willful, principled civil disobedience. Break them with rocks. Break them with slingshots. Break them with baseball bats.
But BREAK THEM.
The time has come to take your life, your liberty and that of your children and grandchildren into your own two hands and ACT.
It is, after all, more humane than shooting them in self defense."
Nice people these wingnuts. They take losing so well. Where the hell is homeland security when you need them? And why aren't we sending their enablers to Gitmo? Isn't that what we would do with al-Qaeda? I am just saying.
Anywhoo, I am going to stay away from rural areas for awhile until these folks calm down. Sorry Mrs. Field, there will be no trips to the mountains this spring. I don't care how nice the shopping outlets are up there. No sir, I will take my chances with the "street pirates" right here in Philly. Flash mobs and all.
Field:
ReplyDeleteI am a process-driven person, and have faith in the system. I do not condone "extra-judicial justice", even though Teh Won chooses to surround himself with people that do (aka, Bill-I-Wish-I-Could-Have-Done-More-Ayres et al).
That being said, in your line of work, I think you are foolish NOT to defend yourself.
I have been beaten and made to beg for my life by my assailant (I refused), my best friend who is an attorney who does family law (lots pro bono) was brutally raped and sodomized with a toilet plunger, requiring hours of surgery by an angry ex, and my dearest friend in the world was stabbed in the jugular with a pen knife while her assailant watched her bleed out in front of him. Note -- no guns were involved in ANY of these acts of violence against women.
My husband's line of work also has him in the cross hairs of crazies -- we no longer can accept regular mail to the house, and one tried to run him down with her vehicle -- so I hear you about the need to balance liberty with personal security.
It took me a long time to get to the arming for self-defense place. I'm not quite at Concealed Carry yet (although it would be more for the Studmuffin's peace of mind than mine), but I have learned how to handle the 870 Remington and go out to the range 2X/mth to practice. You kick in my door, you're going to meet my friend. I won't be a victim in my own home.
These are trying times we live in. It's hard to dial back the paranoia sometimes, but we all have to do our best.
Hugs,
K
I think you should. As a woman,I believe in arms to protect myself anyway.
ReplyDeleteAs a melanin-challenged child of the 60s, I always thought the "Race War" would start when black folks finally had enough. Somewhat ironic it will be the other way around. It's truly scary to realize the sh!t bubbling under the surface of these crackers' feeble minds. Tea party my sweet white a$$ - more like Necktie Party. I think it was Frank Zappa who said, "I ain't black, but there's a whole lotta times I wished I wasn't white."
ReplyDeleteField,
ReplyDeleteLoved that sidebar story on why John Boehner is so upset; I wondered why he compared the passing of the Health care bill as the start of Armagedden and his comment wasn't spoken about much. I thought it a little over the top, myself. LOL!
Aloha from Makaii
I've started this post three times, and three times I've erased it. This is the fourth time. Because I don't even want to say the words. Don't know how to phrase it. I won't say the word, I can't...
ReplyDeleteI was around in the 60's. I remember my family gathering, much like at the wake of a family member, in silent tears and shock after the loss of JFK. I remember the angaer and the tension ridng the el with my friend the day after MLK's loss. I remember the disbelief at the loss of Malcolm,and I remember the disbelief when the loss of RFK was anounced. America is a violent country, always has been.
"So, if you wish to send a message that Pelosi and her party cannot fail to hear, break their windows .Break them NOW."
ReplyDeleteMaybe they call it something different in Alabama, but this sounds like Kristallnacht to me.
The sad thing is, they don't even know that they are pawns.
ReplyDeleteThe people that the tea partiers hate the most, poor blacks and latinos, have more in common them then they want to admit. But it's the admitting it that's the problem.
They are Gullible and Ignorant.
They are the very ones who are on some form of government assistance; Medicare, Government Retirement, Social Security, Medicaid (but that's for all those poor black women, you know.)
A person that lacks ignorance would realize that 71% of the people do not have health insurance work and of those most would have it if it was even remotely affordable.
A person that lacks ignorance would realize that the poor people have Medicaid, so that is not an unproductive member of society problem; it is actually a productive member of society problem. A person that lack ignorance would realize that they already pay for others health care, through higher medical cost, higher premiums and what not, and by making others attain insurance, the government is just making others responsible.
Also, a person that lacks ignorance would realize that people that worked all of their life and then laid off from their job now can not be covered due to the fact they have a pre-existing condition. (Until later this year)
But in the United States of America, you have the right to be ignorant and wrong as fuck.
You have the right to have so-called tea party rallies which are really I-don't-think-that-poor-people-should-get-health-care-especially-the-black-and-the-latinos-because-they-aren't-real-americans-like-us-country-ass-white-folks-party.
I'm all for free speech. These folks need it the most, because it's despicable stuff they're saying. The problem is the line where free speech becomes an incitement to violence, and they have effectively blurred that line. I'm all for letting their racism flag fly high with their effigies; people have done that countless times in the past, it's akin to flag burning. Doesn't mean I want an Amendment prohibiting it. Having it out in the open shows how repulsive these people are and will certainly separate rational people from their cause. Vandalism is clearly illegal and wholly unacceptable, and one has to understand that the Secret Service doesn't take lightly ANY open association with violence and the President, veiled threat or not.
They have had more death threats in this administration that any of the last ones. Asking others to pray for the death of someone is not illegal, however it is incredibly callous and it fosters a dangerous climate because you never know if someone may decide to skip prayer and just do it themselves. Calling a Congressman and wishing for his death is clearly illegal, you'd have to be a fool to do something like that. But despite the hateful atmosphere created by these people, you have to respect the First Amendment up until "fire in a crowded theater" or "fighting words" . Remember what Chomsky said:
"If you're really in favor of free speech, then you're in favor of freedom of speech for precisely for views you despise. Otherwise, you're not in favor of free speech.
Even with that said, I have a dangerous fear that something horrible is going to happen.
May God help us if that comes to pass.
Damn Karen, you sure know how to cheer up a brother. :(
ReplyDeleteBut seriously, thanks for the tips.
Gregory, you have been on a roll lately.
Makaii, I knew you would like that.
Hang in there cactusrose, I know what you are thinking, but we will be fine this time around. It's the regular Joes on the street who who should be watching their backs.
See what Anon 8:59 pm said.
At least they're not flash mobbing.
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obamacare is a felonious assault on millions
ReplyDeletethey are righteously angry!!!
the worst is yet to come in 2013 when people realize they were tricked and just how bad it is!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/obamacare-ominous-obfuscation.html
"obamacare is a felonious assault on millions
ReplyDeletethey are righteously angry!!!
the worst is yet to come in 2013 when people realize they were tricked and just how bad it is!"
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Are you on crack?
Here we go. And earlier than usual.
ReplyDelete@Gregory & TSC:
ReplyDelete(a) people of all stripes are afraid -- really afraid -- right now. Afraid of losing their jobs, their homes, their sense of self. That type of fear is crossing color boundaries. It's not black-white. And with that fear, comes lashing out. It's necessary that ALL the "adults" keep cool heads.
(b) re: The Tea Parties. I don't know what went on @the wknd, b/c I didn't go, but I was at the big rally at 9-12. I was there and watched SEIU bus in min 4 busloads of thugs to try and stir things up. They were confronted, politely surrounded by calm Veterans (yeah, our military rocks!) and escorted away. They are many people who have LOTS to gain by inciting violence -- and not just on the right.
The PTB were absolutely fine w/Malcolm X when he was a radical. When he had a change of heart & viewpoint and wanted to reach out to whites to confront poverty and injustice across racial lines, that's when they capped him.
Divide and conquer as a strategy can't work unless we let it.
As far the Congresscritters that have been targeted: I'm proud of them for keeping their cool. Our family has been there (try telling your kids it's "normal" to have MP's parked in the alley behind your house 24/7). I may be writing some letters of support tomorrow, esp to those across the aisle I don't agree with.
@Gregory 9:38
ReplyDelete;)
But that's why I hang here.
It's a free for all.
God Bless FN.
"people of all stripes are afraid -- really afraid -- right now. Afraid of losing their jobs, their homes, their sense of self."
ReplyDeleteWhich "sense of self" is that, Karen?
@ FN:
ReplyDeleteWOW!....anarchy in the streets by white folks (I think they have this anarchy thing cornered now).
This is what violence begetting violence looks like. The climate of violence in this country has been way too high for far too long.
It also shows that a few small minded people with a microphone can instill whatever they want into empty souls....
Peace.
~agape2010~
Karen said......
ReplyDelete"people of all stripes are afraid -- really afraid -- right now. Afraid of losing their jobs, their homes, their sense of self."
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I would agree with that except........
The Tea Party movement didn't exist until a black president existed.
Republicans aren't getting death threats.
The Tea Party folks aren't necessarily racists, but racists are finding a home in the tea party. I don't see anyone in the national or local tea party movement disassociating themselves from the racists, so the tea party leaders covertly give consent to the racism.
I guess their sense of self is the notion that the intrinsic benefit of having white skin as an insulation against a lot of society's problems is what the tea party folks are losing. They get to actually work to rebuild this country in a more fair manner, and they really, really don't want to, because they have benefited the most from the status quo.
But I could be wrong.
@Greg:
ReplyDeleteI think when I talk about "sense of self", I think about personal dignity. When people start losing their jobs, their homes, their ability to provide not only for themselves but for their families, it tears away at the fabric of how they define themselves.
That level of despair and desperation leads to irrationality.
The tempo is increasing, not decreasing. My eldest lives in Sacramento, Ca and the tent city there is growing, and the food bank/soup kitchen often runs out of food with people still in line.
But in the meantime, Lloyd Blankfein and Jamie Dimon collected multi-million dollar bonuses while Teh Won promised he was going to rein in the banks.
There's a big difference between the right to "profit" and government sanctioned financial rape.
Just sayin'
(My apologies for the sidebar to my host FN)
ReplyDeleteHey, AB!
How ya doin?
Want to talk about "stereotyping" ?? -- I just got back from two weeks of making maple syrup, attending bantam hockey playoffs, and to cap it all off, smuggling "back bacon" & smoked Artic Char across the border (the Studmuffin is extremely grateful).
Anyways, there's a pile of books waiting for me & your suggestion of "8 centuries of Financial Folly" is in the heap -- can't wait to tear into it! ;)
In the meantime, this is for you:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=MAR20100322&articleId=18263
Hugs,
K
@TSC:
ReplyDeleteFor the record, my anti-gov't activism didn't start with O, it started with the bs war in Iraq in 2003. It only escalated pre-election 2008 with the "Stimulus" etc.
The hardest thing I had to do, as a "mom" was stand on a parade deck and hug several hundred bright-eyed 18 and 19 year olds good bye as they marched off to the Sandbox. I was cheery and upbeat, and then I went home and cried and threw up. And decided I had had enough. "National Defense" is supposed to be just that -- our national defense -- not extending a war of empire and for the benefit of multinational corporations and banks.
As far as the "racism" charge -- I've seen "racism" on both sides of the aisle. I make no secret that I have no love for Teh Won -- all of his policies and platforms make my skin crawl. But, I respect our system and am working within to effect change.
It comes with a bitter note though -- after the election, the Studmuffin's secretary, who is black, immediately put up a picture of the "First Family" on her desk. Her pride was unmistakeable. I get that. I appreciate that. It makes me smile when I see young black pre-teens girls wearing T-shirts proclaiming, "Future American President". I didn't see that pre-O. So, it's a bitter-sweet thing. I'm trying to move beyond the whole "historic black" thing. I was holding out hope for an American Desmond Tutu. You hear that man speak, and the love, and peace and calm and call for justice just washes over you. And inspires you. But that's not what we got. At least, from my perspective.
As far as the whole "white privilege" argument -- that's not how I see it.
I see it as a fundamental struggle between two very different versions of how America is to be governed.
There was a very interesting discussion over at "Mirror on America" where a blogger named Liberal Arts Dude asked the question about the diff btwn a "Republic" and a "Democracy".
I'm all about the Republican (not Republican as in party, but governmental philosophy & organization) ideals of the right to exercise free will and the right to self-determination over the right of Majority rule, which is what Democracy is based on. I prefer to be vigilant about safeguarding the rights of any minority against the potential tyranny of Majority rule.
Does that make sense, or did I ramble too much? Sorry, I'm PUI with the Meritage on tap. ;)
The thing that makes me think this is more bark than bite is that your average Tea Bagger is in their 60's. If they were in their 30's or 40's I'd be more concerned.
ReplyDeleteKaren, as I stated in an earlier post, your right to self determination has not been abridged one bit by one policy that has been enacted by the Obama Administration. Free speech and movement have not been attacked. Your free will is not being threatened. What IS being threatened by the Obama administration is the unbridled greed of the top wealth amassers (they are not wage earners in my book)... he is threatening to reform the banks, something ironically the rethugs are already attacking as "threatening freedom".. look behind the curtain and see that the those leading the fight against the Obama's policies are the SAME who for the past 40 years have pushed for deregulation, and tax cuts for the rich... and incredibly have convinced the working class that this benefits them! Reagan's trickle down theories have left most of us being pissed on.... Having been in demonstration after demonstration for the past 20 years and watching people being beaten, tear gassed and arrested, I find it especially ironic that at the demonstrations where Obama appears, there are no arrests.. and there are people carrying friggin guns! He does not screen crowds at his events to ensure that only his supporters are there, unlike Bush...
ReplyDeleteSo please, tell me what specific freedoms do you think are being threatened???
There is an economic crisis happening, no doubt, but I have far more faith in Obama's approach than going back to the Rethugs, who are the bastards that got us here.
You forget that there are Blacks who are teabaggers. So they are fully integrated and that makes them far safer than those flash mobs in urban cities.
ReplyDeleteYou forget that there are Blacks who are teabaggers. So they are fully integrated and that makes them far safer than those flash mobs in urban cities.
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Yeah, about five. One of them posts here on a regular.
"You forget that there are Blacks who are teabaggers. So they are fully integrated and that makes them far safer than those flash mobs in urban cities."
ReplyDeleteYeah right,
As long as they aren't walking up the Capitol steps to vote for health reform.
@Jody:
ReplyDeleteActually, you are sadly mistaken if you think my rights aren't being abridged by the Obama Admin. It's on warp speed. I had issues with the Bush Admin, but this is at a whole.'nuther.level. I have railed against Bush on many an occasion and my advocacy has resulted in the Studmuffin being screamed at, spittle flying, his job threatened, etc, because of "MY" advocacy against the PTB. However, only under the O- have I received a visit from the SS among other things.
And yes, my FREE WILL has definitely been threatened under THIS administration FAR MORE than B & C 2000-2008. I am quite happy to give NUMEROUS examples, but this is FN's blog and I've already been accused of sucking up too much Oxygen.
I hate to prick your balloon, but Obama is paid & owned for by the Banks. The rest is all Kabuki theatre. So was Bush, but Teh Won appears to sold himself far cheaper and is far more malleable.
Jody, to turn this argument around, I have to ask --
(a) our cost per young man/woman sent to the theatre in Iraq/Af is approx $1M per head. O campaigned on bringing the troops home. He has expanded the theatre, in keeping with his master's desires. How would our nation be different if we had spent that $$ ON our young, rather than using it to enrich the same Wall St cronies who were O's biggest funders?
That's even before we touch the collateral costs -- injuries, PTSD etc that our young bear as a result of this "Overseas Contingency Ops" ?? We're going to be paying for this for a long, long, LONG time.
(b) Regarding HCR -- I have worked in ALL levels of health care in a universal payer system, and feel a tad bit qualified to comment. I've also worked @ a Medical assoc'n in govt relations on K Street. In summation: It SUCKS and does nothing but extend further control and drive up costs. I have young adults and DON'T want them saddled with unbearable generational debt -- I want them to have a future.
(c) I agree that there is much that could be done, but the Obama Admin is NOT doing it. So much for "change". Instead of bailing out the banks with TARP, Stimulus, etc .... how would our nation have been different if that $$$ had been directed to small church/community groups (NOT ACORN et al) to funnel DIRECTLY to homeowners? Note, the banks are NOT clearing foreclosures from their books and auctioning inventory b/c they are STILL expecting us to bail them out AGAIN. It's win, they win, lose, we pay. And Obama and Timmy G are playing right along. I have a problem with that. Read some of the economic blogs to get a full understanding of the true shell game/Ponzi scheme that is going on.
And you mistake me if you think I am a cheerleader for the R's. NOT.
Field,
ReplyDeleteIt's a shame that those screaming "Hands off my Healthcare" were being ignored while premiums went up over 100 % between 1994 - 2006, when the GOP completely controlled Congress.
It's a crying shame that those screaming that "Obama is a lying marxist" were ignored when W sent me and my brothers to Iraq to find WMD that didn't exist.
It's a shame that those calling Mr. Obama a "marxist palling around with terrorists" were being ignored when the GOP ignored Afghanistan for seven years - effectively snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
It's a shame that these deficit hawks were ignored when W cut taxes (twice) and created Medicare Part D without ever posturing about paying for it.
It's too bad that these "defenders of the Constitution" were being ignored when the GNoP created an extra-judicial prison in Cuba - which has been an excellent advanced training school for the extremists that want to kill Americans.
It's too bad that those protesting "government tyranny over American citizens" were being ignored when the Supreme Court overturned a century of precedent by equating corporate and union political ads to individual free speech.
Oh yeah, that's right: these teabagging fools didn't say sh!t, did they?
Field don't go out and buy a gun, its a bad idea a lot of folks with guns wind up having them stolen or used on them.
ReplyDeleteKaren-
I am trying to figure out where you are coming from and am a bit confused.
As you know I am the resident radical on here who believes in neither the Democratic nor Republicans party's ability to do right by working people and people of color. I believe they are what they are the twin parties of the capitalist ruling class.
You talk about freedoms etc., but weren't they also limited under the last administration?
What is Teh Won and what does that mean?
I don't understand why you insist on playing down the bad behaviour which has been displayed quite often by people who have participated in Tea Party rallies.
Folks aren't making it up, which is what you implied when you said you weren't at the big one in DC.
And I have seen the signs and the nasty rhetoric which you have to admit would at least appear to be racist and definitely anti-immigrant.
Its not honest to always imply as you have done twice now that the bad folks or the bad things associated with the TEa Party gathers are the work of interlopers or provacateurs.
You can't keep playing this off. Folks on this blog and I definitely would like someone who participates in Tea Party functions or believes in their cause to at least try to explain what surely seems to be a lot of race baiting and taunting and just hatred coming from that end.
And speaking of things I have seen.I have witnessed personally two Tea Party events and some really nasty things were said.
And as someone who has watched SEIU and worked with them to do some great things for workers I have never heard of them doing what you accuse them of in your post and I mean never. I am not saying you aren't telling the truth but I am quite skeptical.
You come off as reasonable enough so please help me understand what exactly is your beef with the Obama administration and with the government.
You seem like a nice person but the folks you associate with seem filled with malice and don't seem all that ideologically motivated.
BTW I feel your being against the war in Iraq, we can agree on that one. And we can agree that this government has its problems.
Please help me out here you seem to be all over the place.
The PTB were absolutely fine w/Malcolm X when he was a radical. When he had a change of heart & viewpoint and wanted to reach out to whites to confront poverty and injustice across racial lines, that's when they capped him.
ReplyDeleteActually he was capped by Nation of Islam hit men, but whatever...
One thing to remember: White people do not like black people. It doesn't matter if they are conservative or liberal. It's just white liberals are smarter and vote based on their pocket book. Yet, you won't catch them living in black neighborhoods or sending their kids to public schools if the can avoid it. But they claim to be 'color blind.' Yeahhh. sure...
Karen:
ReplyDeleteI feel you on the bank bailout and the war, which by the way I seldom here Tea Party folks or right wing folks condemn.
You are right the homeowners should have been bailed out. A moratorium should have been called by the president.
But the churches don't have the ability to funnel money to folks the point of government is to get it to do what you want.
What did you mean by the SS visiting you? We don't live in a fascist state, at least not yet. We actually still have freedom of speech and expression. Ironically the folks in the Tea Party seem to be even freer to express their opinions.
Why do you think that is? I know you want to argue that point but just do a compare and contrast with other protests.
What is PTB?
What kind of health care system would you like to see implemented. You appear to be opposed to the Universal Health Care that Canada offered and you are opposed to the Health Care Reform Bill. What do you propose?
Karen your ideology is all over the place it almost seems like you favor some kind of anarchy.
Karen said-
ReplyDelete"And yes, my FREE WILL has definitely been threatened under THIS administration FAR MORE than B & C 2000-2008. I am quite happy to give NUMEROUS examples, but this is FN's blog and I've already been accused of sucking up too much Oxygen."
Field doesn't care about you talking on his blog, especially when we are trying to get clarity. You represent a more reasonable
perspective than your fellow Tea Partiers/right wingers.
So please explain how you feel more threatened on this admin when the Bush admin passed the Patriot Act the most intrusive and threatening of our civic rights in some time.
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ReplyDelete... It was in the manipulation of the text by disingenuous people that the Constitution was misinterpreted, just like the Bible, and used to condone slavery. ...
http://fjmblog.com/2010/03/24/the-black-agenda%E2%80%94we-count-summit-a-conservative-point-of-view/
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. Exodus 21:20-21
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5
Jesus, speaks:
The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given. Luke 12:47-48
... Representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned among the several states which may be included within this union, according to their respective numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole number of free persons, including those bound to service for a term of years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. ...
http://topics.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei
Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3 of the United States Constitution
But if the slave plainly says, 'I love my master, my wife and my children. I will not go out as a free man, then his master shall bring him to God, then he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost. And his master shall pierce his ear with an awl and he shall serve him forever. Ex. 21:5-6
Conservative Negroes, have been voluntarily AWLed.
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Field have you heard about this, coming out of my old stomping grounds of South Florida, check out what this brother said.
ReplyDeleteFrom the Miami Herald tonight:
GOP Congressional hopeful calls president Obama Buckwheat
"In the midst of delivering an impassioned speech decrying President Obama's healthcare reform, GOP congressional hopeful Corey Poitier veered dangerously off-script.
``Listen up, Buckwheat -- this is not how it is done!'' Poitier blurted out.
The apparent comparison of the nation's commander-in-chief to a 1920s Our Gang and The Little Rascals character -- a character seen as demeaning and offensive by many African Americans -- sent a jolt of notoriety through Poitier's previously unknown campaign.
``The press has run amok with this and turned me into a racist,'' said Poitier, who is himself black. The candidate complains CNN never bothered to interview him before running its own version of the story. ``I've never seen Buckwheat as a disparaging character. People love Buckwheat.''
Poitier says he and his brother have in fact called each other ``Buckwheat'' as a way to gently chide the other for being foolish -- essentially a substitute for the word ``dummy.''
While speaking to a group of Broward Republicans Monday night, Poitier says he was trying to call the healthcare bill -- not Obama -- ``dumb and silly.'' The candidate says he was initially surprised that the public instead took his comment as directed at the President.
``People can connect anything these days,'' Poitier said.
Poitier is one of nearly a dozen candidates vying to fill the open congressional seat being vacated by U.S. Rep. Kendrick Meek, who is running for a spot in the Senate.
Poitier is the only Republican running to represent the heavily Democratic district that takes in portions of Pembroke Pines, Miami Gardens and Miami Shores, among other areas."
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/03/24/1546021/gop-congressional-hopeful-corey.html
@ANON 11:53
ReplyDelete"One thing to remember: White people do not like black people. It doesn't matter if they are conservative or liberal. It's just white liberals are smarter and vote based on their pocket book. Yet, you won't catch them living in black neighborhoods or sending their kids to public schools if the can avoid it. But they claim to be 'color blind.' Yeahhh. sure..."
ANON-
First of all, grab and set and actually invent a real Nom de Plume for yourself.
Secondly, what you post is BS.
You are painting alot of people with a VERY BIG brush.
Yes, there are those who I like to tag as "Limosine Liberals",some in my own in-law family, but not everyone fits the stereotype/mold you speak of.
I happen to like Black people, who I like, because THEY ARE PEOPLE I LIKE. Because of WHO THEY ARE.
For your info, there are also black people in MY life, in MY HUSBANDS life, in MY CHILDRENS life, who have been incredible mentors and role models. I would not have gone into pre-med/genetics had it not been for a BLACK PHYSICIAN, my husband learned so much about what it means to mentor Jr troops from a BLACK CO, my daughter went to Pharm school because of the first pharmacist she worked for was incredibly supportive who happened to be BLACK, my son learned about tolerance from a teacher who was BLACK and the daughter of a sharecropper in AL, and guess what ....
these individuals were incredible PEOPLE and generous spirits. Being BLACK was only ONE dimension of who they were.
GO BITE ME and take your bigotry with you.
Who is this Karen person? and who is Teh Won? can someone please inform me? or better yet, let Karen do it?
ReplyDeleteBlack people should be all up in those TEA BAGGER'S face, we have earned the right to be Angry! but, yet, we are taking heed to these White, Spoiled, Thug's! these people should be Whipped back to England! truth be told, they are Scavenger's!
Every White face I see in the TEA PARTY MOVEMENT is a RACIST! they ain't no HALF RACIST! they are a Certified RACIST! if you are not part of the Solution, then, you are part of the problem! and these HOODLUM'S are part of their forefather's Legacy! if not, why are they protesting against a Black President!
Karen, Black folk and Hispanic's ain't acting Irrational! we are the one's on the Bottom pole, we are the one's with the High unemployment rate, do you see FRINGED Black folk and Hispanic's with Witch Doctor sign's? you see, some Minority's can smell a Rat a long way off! they may be without, but,they don't want to be any where near MESS!
Karen, please enlighten me? is the President suppose to be Teh Won? cause I need to know? I need to know, why you have chose the President as target practice! as your Whipping boy! as your man of the hour, as your (let's blame a Black man for the MESS the White man left him with)! a White President left behind TWO WAR! and a Black President is only doing what is expected of him! and what is that? CLEAN up the White man's MESS he left behind! you see, Black men have been doing this before the President was born!
It is women like you and Alicia, that make my Job hard, you women have decided to be the President's Adversary's! so, that mean's, I have no other choice, but, to call YOU OUT!
ISEEISEE
@MELL:
ReplyDeleteSo many questions, so little time!
I have a pseudo emergency with the 12 yo so I have to run ....
In the past, you called me out for misreading your posts & you were right ....soooo...
when I am less tired & refreshed, I will read all of your info in the AM over a pot of fresh coffee and try to respond coherently....
will catch up with you in the AM
hugs
K
The Tea Party folks aren't necessarily racists, but racists are finding a home in the tea party. I don't see anyone in the national or local tea party movement disassociating themselves from the racists, so the tea party leaders covertly give consent to the racism.
ReplyDeleteTSC...You are not wrong, that is exactly what happened to the Tea Party movement. The Republicans are condoning and hiding behind the actions of hate groups that infiltrated the Tea Party, therefore, they are guilty by associating and November is NOT going to go the way they hope.
It is time to put a STOP to these AMERICAN TERRIOSTS!
I did not like guns, but I am with my husband on the direction the country is going in. I did not stop him when he made several gun purchases. I also did not resist when he start took me to the gun range on a few of our date nights.
@ISEEISEE --
ReplyDeleteYes, you can call me OUT.
"Teh Won" is my tongue-in-cheek ref to da Prez based on his statement he doesn't have to listen to his opponents since "he won". Go check out some of the PUMA blogs if you want to catch up on some of the Dem-on-Dem animosity.
ISEE -- not sure where to begin w/your post & how to begin to answer.
Yes, I am a Tea Party Activist.
No, I don't like Obama.
Didn't like Bush/Cheney either.
Nancy Reagan gave me nightmares.
But I digress.
I will re-read your post in the AM and try to faithfully answer your concerns.
Must say tho', being the only Tea Party rep around here .... gives me a small idea of what being the sole black dude @ Whole Foods on a Sunday must feel like ....;)
And ISEE, I am one person. I can't be responsible for everything any person who ever attended a Tea Party did or didn't do. Much like I don't expect you to be personally responsible for every crappy thing any black person did or didn't do. EVER.
A bentoit!
K
AB, I read the HCR post on your site. Thanks for providing links. I found this one particularly enlightening:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/23/obamacare-for-everyone-but-obama/
Seriously, WTF? If his 'reform' is so good how come he opted out of it? That is utter BS. I pissed this gift to the insurance industry passed, but not surprised. It passed because the PTB wanted it to. Obviously they had much to gain.
@Cal Soldier
ReplyDeleteI cosign your rant. Much has been forgotten, as many hasten to saddle Obama with the missteps of Bush and the Repubs.
Many blacks knew this would happen. And it wasn't long after Obama was sworn in, that the misdeeds of Bush were laid at his feet.
@Jody
ReplyDeleteI cosign. But it's hard for facts to penetrate the protective vest of ideologues.
Hi Field, I decided to respond 'above ground' on this topic. As a 60-year-old African American with working knowledge of IP, Jazz, legislative procedure, police beat journalism, and history written by both the victors and the vanquished, I think you all had better adjust perspective here.
ReplyDeleteIf they'll call a congressman a slur--in congress--what do you think they'll do to YOU. If they'll throw bricks (Kristallnacht II?) at them what do you think they would do to you?
karen? alicia?
If we don't smack this rabid pit bull HARD between the eyes, now, some of you polite negroes you'll be looking for a gangbanger with a glock for protection.
We've always been on the firing line and now that policies they've approved since Reagan are coming home to roost THEY want to get all mad and call my president a natzi?
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Oh by the way, you notice how you're talking about this crap and NOT talking about how our president (yeah, I said it!) and the speaker of the house thoroughly schooled GOP on the biggest legislative accomplishment since Medicare. Policy-wise it's nothin' but net and in your face to Boehner et. al.
HCR won't change my scene that much but you young negroes won't have to go broke over a broken leg now.
Side note: The good parents here will start telling your kids to consider the medical field. There are going to be a LOT of new openings for young doctors, nurses, and medi-techs considering there will be at least 30 million new people who can actually look after their health now. Lots of community clinics (Thanks to Bernie Sanders, congress' only socialist) which you can gain skill and improve the 'hood.
If we let the brownshirts-in-training intimidate or divert us then....wait....
Sorry, I forgot I was dealing with FN's here. No problem.
Thanks for the forum Counselor.
Of course, with all that said, This version of HCR is pretty much the same one that Bob Dole put forward in 1994 or something like that. Doh!
ReplyDeleteJust goes to show you how the right-center-left equation shifts over time. Nevertheless, we have a solid foundation on which to build on and young legislators of the future will continue to build on it.
Considering how Obama pulled this off, I think you would be mad at the media for portraying him as a loser when he has proven himself to be a formidable legislative force.
(Oh yeah, those state challenges to HCR's constitutionality will be forcefully rejected by the first president to actually be able to take it to the (doughnut) hole.)
Stunning. and. Thrilling.
Take that GOP!
The Republican party wanted to be associated with the Tea Baggers, good or bad, so they can take the country back. Take the country back from whom?
ReplyDeleteIt's sad the Republicans would egg on this type of violent behavior just to win back Congress and the WH. I expect this type of behavior from the government of Iran, but not America.
AB,
you said you didn't like Bush/Cheney, but why weren't the tea baggers protesting when Bush/Cheney was fucking up the country.
Miss me with all that bullshit.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/23/obamacare-for-everyone-but-obama/
ReplyDeleteSeriously, WTF? If his 'reform' is so good how come he opted out of it? That is utter BS.
The Moonie newspaper is just that, Moonie.
The amendments to the bill which concern Congressional and Executive coverage were in fact written by Senators Grassley and Coburn- Republicans.
No conspiracy by Obama, here.
As the President helpfully pointed out, he's the President . He has doctors following him 24-7. So that's not going to change-HCR or no HCR.
But he did say that he would join the insurance exchanges.
Since they aren't set up until 2014, if people really want to see if he keeps his word, they would have to vote him into office again.
LOL.
Dear Field:
ReplyDeleteIsn't it interesting that these Right wing crazies consider themselves to be Christians?
Now I am a Christian too, but I always wonder what God they are serving?
My God is not racist, wants all to have health care, cares about the poor, has compassion for the oppressed, etc.
I know that you don't believe in God, but I hope you can make a distinction between those who call themselves Christian (while promoting violence) and those like me (and your wife) who believe that Jesus advocates a life of service and compassion.
I will pray for President Obama's continued safety (the Secret Service kind of makes me nervous) and for the safety of those BRAVE DEMOCRATS who voted for health care reform (which ironically isn't even as strong as progressives like me would have liked).
people of all stripes are afraid -- really afraid -- right now. Afraid of losing their jobs"
ReplyDeleteKaren, aren't most of those tea bag folks retired? What jobs?
BTW, Jody and Cal Soldier,I loved the rants.
Karen, where do you live? Are you close to the Canadian border?
Mellaneous, thanks for the 411 on that Negro from ,lorida. "Buckwheat" ,huh? Did he say that he and his brother enjoyed "Buckwheat"? Gee, there is a surprise. I hear the republicans recruited quite a few of these "Buckwheat" loving types to run in the next election cycle.
Good luck with that.:)
"AB,
you said you didn't like Bush/Cheney, but why weren't the tea baggers protesting when Bush/Cheney was fucking up the country."
Good question. It's one I wonder about all the time. This is why these wingnuts have zero creditability with me.
Karen said:
ReplyDelete(b) Regarding HCR -- I have worked in ALL levels of health care in a universal payer system, and feel a tad bit qualified to comment. I've also worked @ a Medical assoc'n in govt relations on K Street. In summation: It SUCKS and does nothing but extend further control and drive up costs. I have young adults and DON'T want them saddled with unbearable generational debt -- I want them to have a future."
Then please explain why those countries that have universal health care spend less of their GDP on health care than we do.... France has the best health care in the world and spends less... this does not wash.... and I too have experience with universal health care... I lived in Canada for a time, had a child there and was thrilled with the care I received. I chose my doctor, did not wait for appointments, home health nurses came to my house instead of me going to a doctor's office for follow-up baby visits. Ask ANYONE who lives in a country with universal health care if they would prefer our system and the answer is not just no, its HELL NO!
Jody said: "Ask ANYONE who lives in a country with universal health care if they would prefer our system and the answer is not just no, its HELL NO!"
ReplyDeleteHeeellllll NO!! And folks, I don't even cuss. LOL....
"AB,
ReplyDeleteyou said you didn't like Bush/Cheney, but why weren't the tea baggers protesting when Bush/Cheney was fucking up the country.""
Because wackos like Karen thought Bush/Cheney were too liberal!!!
"The Tea Party folks aren't necessarily racists, but racists are finding a home in the tea party."
ReplyDeleteThis is/was true of the Republican party, too. Which is why there is no discernible difference between the two "partys".
Karen: "Actually, you are sadly mistaken if you think my rights aren't being abridged by the Obama Admin. It's on warp speed."
Where is the proof in that? Just what rights are being taken away from you by Obama? Name ONE! You can't because you are just making things up just like the other tea baggers who did nothing and said nothing when the brush was in office. If you are using the tea party "movement" to further your cause then you are on the road to being a lost cause yourself.
transfixed in sc:
ReplyDeletei am on reality, research, and literacy...unlike you obamabots who are STILL hypnotized by hobama's totally insignificant and irrelevant blackish skin!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/obamacare-ominous-obfuscation.html?_c=feed-atom
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de0f39ed860c.html
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123ddfa4604860b.html
Karen also said: "I've also worked @ a Medical assoc'n in govt relations on K Street."
ReplyDeleteTranslation... I was a lobbyist for the medical industry. Enough said.
You also referenced being "visited by the SS".... if you are suggesting that you are being harassed by Federal Agents, well then, you are in my area of expertise... if this is indeed harassment, I highly recommend you contact the National Lawyers Guild or the ACLU.... I am sure they will be happy to assist you with any legitimate claims of harassment. You seem smart enough, so I am sure that you are able to document your harassment, which is all most lawyers need to move forward. And, lucky for you, both the NLG and the ACLU are more than happy to help everyone against such harassment, even the ones that call Them commie pinkos.
karen:
ReplyDeletewelcome back!!!
god how i missed u
the levels of morons and obama nazis on this blog have actually worsened while you were away...each sin by obama INCREASES their worship...further proof that they are truly black racidt nazis and fools
i agree with you 100%
i am proud top be your fellow BLAVK teabagger with tavis
ie:
assnon has the audacity to as YOU who you are??? what irony!!!!
jodeetdeetdee is EXTRA retarded to deny that hobama has gifted bankers who conitnue to bilk the masses more than ever!!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/24/jpmorgan-tax-deal-would-n_n_511550.html
the very same blacks who are IGNORING that hobama has been gwb 2.0 HYPOCRITICALLY & RETROACTIVELY
are EQUALLY as silent about hobama NOW as they were about gwb THEN
HOBAMA IS WORSE THAN GWB...HE NEVER GAVE BANKS 750 BIL AND THE TEABAGGERS NOTICED THAT ALONG WITH THE LOSS OF THEIR JOBS AND HOMES....THAT IS WHY THEY ARE PROTESTING HOBAMA NOW!!!!
sandra:
ReplyDeletemiss me with your own selective bs and amnesia
hobama is worse than bush!
THAT is why the teabaggers are on him!
the ONLY reason you are not on him is because you are too blind to see what they do!!!
ditto 4 all you fellow racist black obama nazis
i blasted gwb just as i do hobama 4 8 yrs!!!!
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dicedicyicy:
you buybull toing evil idiot
hobama is yor adversary!!!
wake up!
jodeetdeetdee:
ReplyDeletewhen i read your post,
i actually became as petrified as when i watched "schindler's list" and saw the nazi child run her finger across her neck as the jews in trains passed by...
you are the epitome of a person who is so lost that they have become just as evil as hobama
hobama has given wilding bankers 750 bil while telling poor blacks they have no public option & no agenda except prisons....and that is to be cheered by u blind fools????
shame!!!!!
karen:
ReplyDeleteobama bots like sandra actually believe that the very day the blackish hobama was elected...the us govt became noble angelic bliss
hobama's selection as prez by gwb/dick c erased jfk/the bilderbergs/the illunitai/mlk/bobby k/malcolm x/...
it made all gwb's suddenly wars noble even as hobama escalated each that he lied about ending
THIS is why they are NOT teabagging and hopeless hobama nazis!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/an-honor-undeserved---obamas-prized-12-days.html?_c=feed-rss
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b01240b9e8bcb860e.html
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/obamas-wars-will-be-worse-than-vietnam.html
karen:
ReplyDeleteditto to all u post!!!
if ALL whites hated blacks, hobama would never have won!
it is racist blacks who have cheered hobama on as he has betrayed each of those whites and every black person who voted for him who does not own a bank!!!!
BLACK RACISTS ARE CODDLING HOBAMA AS THEY BASH WHITE TEABAGGERS WHO ARE DARING TO SEE AND TELL TRUTHS ABOUT HIM!!!
RACISTS ARE EVERYWHERE, EVEN ALL OVER DC!!!
MILLIONS OF TEABAGGERS ARE NOT RACISTS AND ARE BLACK LIKE ME!!!
I AM BLACKER AND WISER THAN ANY OBAMA NAZI NIGGER IN AMERICA!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01240bb59112860e.html
karen:
ReplyDeletecongrats to u and your stud hubby on your great vacation!...smile
my wife and i reserve all our vacation days for summer to combo with our loooong birthday celebs!
welcome back!!!!
Karen said...
ReplyDelete@ISEEISEE --
I will re-read your post in the AM and try to faithfully answer your concerns.
Must say tho', being the only Tea Party rep around here .... gives me a small idea of what being the sole black dude @ Whole Foods on a Sunday must feel like ....;)
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You're not that funny, but allow me add to your small idea - If you really want to some black folks on a Sunday at a Whole Foods then take your ass to Short pump area/Richmond VA - there's plenty.
fn:
ReplyDelete4 real?
teabaggers were silent about gwb for the same reasons that blacks are STILL silent about hobama
and hobama has done MUCH more to make them poorer and more pissed off!!!
ie
fox news is number one now for the same reason that cnn was number one when gwb was prez...they are daring to tell the truth about the prez!!!
Interesting comments made by Karen and some anonymous commenters. I totally agree that our President, and the previous Presidents have been coopted by banking interests. This is not rocket science. They took money and gave it to banks while average Americans are struggling. Bottom line. He has no fealty to the American people. Sarah Palin and John McCain have no allegiance to the American people; simply their own egos.
ReplyDeleteThe truth is that many of the people you call wingnuts and teabaggers have legitimate grievances,as most all of us OUGHT to! Privatizing gains and socializing debt is a RECIPE for financial ruin in a society and leads up to total disenfranchisement of the population.
I cringe at many of the policies that our President supports, mainly the incursions into the Middle East and the appointing of banking cartel minions in positions of fiduciary responsibility.
Bottom line; he is a crook. His cronies are crooks. The Republicans are crooks and hypocrites. The lot of them should be tarred and feathered and kicked out of their offices.
I don't advocate violence, but I can see the 'wingnut' logic.
First Rigmaiden said - The lot of them should be tarred and feathered and kicked out of their offices.
ReplyDeleteThen Rigmaiden said - I don't advocate violence...
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Huh...did I miss something?
jody--karen said:
ReplyDeletei am a tea party activist.
ENOUGH SAID! why lower yourself to debating a person like her? i won't.
Jody said:
ReplyDelete"Ask ANYONE who lives in a country with universal health care if they would prefer our system and the answer is not just no, its HELL NO!"
You can say that again Sister!
Yes, you missed something anon. I should have said I don't condone physical violence;) Tarring and feathering is meant to publicly humiliate, but is not inherently physically violent. They used to tar and feather folks for breaching the public trust back in the day. I think that is appropriate punishment for our shady politicians.
ReplyDeleteCourtland Milloy: Congressmen show grace, restraint in the face of disrespect
ReplyDeleteBy Courtland Milloy
Wednesday, March 24, 2010; B01
I know how the "tea party" people feel, the anger, venom and bile that many of them showed during the recent House vote on health-care reform. I know because I want to spit on them, take one of their "Obama Plan White Slavery" signs and knock every racist and homophobic tooth out of their Cro-Magnon heads.
I am sick of these people -- and those who make excuses for them and their victim-whiner mentality.
They aren't racists, the apologists say. They just don't like deficits and government takeover of health care. So what does using vile epithets for black or gay congressmen have to do with that? The tea party people didn't refer to white Democrats using racial epithets. No one yelled "white trash" or "redneck cracker" at any of those congressmen. And none of their own ever stands up and declares that such practices are morally wrong.
Reps. John L. Lewis (D-Ga.), Emanuel Cleaver II (D-Missouri), James E. Clyburn (D-S.C.), Barney Frank (D-Mass.) and others deserve a hats off for their restraint and composure.
Cleaver told me: "I said to this one person, 'You spat on me.' I thought he was going to say, 'Hey, I was yelling. Sorry.' But he continuing yelling and, for a few seconds, I pointed at him and said, 'You spat on me.' "
How about pointing and declaring: "Spit in my face, fist in yours"? But that's just me.
Cleaver, 66, is a Methodist minister who organized the Kansas City chapter of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (a civil rights organization founded by Martin Luther King Jr. and Ralph Abernathy).
Cleaver grew up in a house in Texas that had been used as a slave cabin only one generation before, became a congressman serving on the House committee on Homeland Security -- and gets spit in the face from some tea party racist.
And he refuses to press charges, no less.
"I would prefer to believe that the man who allowed his saliva to hit my face was irrational for a moment," Cleaver said.
Have mercy. The preacher walks the walk.
"What I saw on their faces, on the signs, what I was hearing, made me think, 'This is not about health care,' " said Clyburn, 70, who is House majority whip. The son of a minister from Sumter, S.C., he also serves as leader of the House Democrats' Faith Working Group.
"It reminds me of that period in our history right after Reconstruction," Clyburn said, "when South Carolina had a black governor and the political gains were lost because of vigilantism, the rise of the Ku Klux Klan."
Of course, black people are not supposed to have such memories. Forgive -- and forget; that's what we are supposed to do. See, we live in post-racial America now, with a black president and all. So, if anybody is racist, it's black people.
The esteemed Stuart Taylor all but said as much in a 2008 column he wrote for the National Journal.
After discounting the racism at campaign rallies for the Republican presidential ticket, Taylor concluded, "The ugliest race-tinged comment by any prominent leader during this campaign came not from a Republican but from Rep. John Lewis, the Georgia Democrat. . . . Lewis accused McCain and Palin on October 11 of 'sowing the seeds of hatred and division,' likening them to George Wallace, the segregationist Alabama governor who created an 'atmosphere of hate [in which] four little girls were killed.' Lewis should be ashamed of himself."
So, here we are, nearly two years later, and Lewis is walking a two-block gauntlet of white hate from the Capitol to the Cannon House Office Building. A racial epithet spews from a crowd being restrained by Capitol Police.
"It reminded me of photographs I saw of the jeering crowds when Central High was being integrated by the Little Rock 9 in 1957," said Lewis, 70, a civil rights veteran and one of the nation's most distinguished advocates for justice and racial quality.
ReplyDelete"It also reminded me of the angry demeanor of white people when a group of us were being arrested in February 1960 in Nashville, during a civil rights demonstration. As we were being led to a police van, people lined the streets just like they were at the Capitol, and they were yelling 'The niggers are coming!' and 'Go back to Africa!' "
There he goes again, remembering.
Makes me mad as hell.
And FN, get a gun for your own health or piece of mind. Your wife can keep it for you. If you don't want to get one, you can always carry a Bible. I have to be honest; my husband owns a hunting rifle I will only TOUCH that thing if we go shooting. Other than that, I don't NEED to mess with a gun, although I am one hundred percent a gun rights believer.
ReplyDeleteI am an activist in a Detroit suburb this past weekend I ran into some of these wingnuts what was revealing was those who signed thier were as nutty as the clowns who set up the display..
ReplyDeleteI may need to get me some protection;-)
"The truth is that many of the people you call wingnuts and teabaggers have legitimate grievances,as most all of us OUGHT to! Privatizing gains and socializing debt is a RECIPE for financial ruin in a society and leads up to total disenfranchisement of the population.'
ReplyDeleteSo where were the teabaggers during the period from 2000 to 2006when the Repubs had almost total control over the government, increased the national debt, plunged us into an unnecessary war at the cost of $4 billion per month and as another poster pointed out cut taxes while expanding Medicare????
The teabaggers are full of guano.
This is all about RACE and I'm surprised you can't see it.
Did you see those yahoos gathered on the Capitol grounds last weekend.
Their faces were red hot and contorted with pure hate.
They spit on a black congressman and the word nigger was spewed promiscuously.
Meanwhile there were Republican Congressmen on the balcony egging them on.
This is not civil dissent, this is war.
These are the same people who justify killing doctors who perform abortions.
They've already threatened at least 10 congressional supporters of healthcare with violence.
This is no time to be complacent black folks.
These people are serious and we damn sure better be.
Karen, when you talk about the tea party participants being "afraid," and then we see crowds that are mostly white retirees, just what are they afraid of other than a black man in the White House? The tea party represents a shrinking demographic -- ignorant aging white Bible-thumpers who can't deal with the fact the 1950s are never coming back -- and the exceptions within the movement (the occasional person of color [which I've yet to see in any photos of the tea party rallies, although I keep getting told they do exist], for example) only serve as the proverbial exceptions to the rule that prove just how unrepresentative the teabaggers are of the country as a whole.
ReplyDeleteI'd feel sorry for them if they weren't so obviously willfully, cheerfully wallowing in their ignorance. None of them seem to have a clue as to what terms like "socialism" actually mean and they obviously don't know how a representative democracy works. They parrot talking points tossed at them by the likes of Glen Beck and freak out whan someone points out that whatever bizarre piece of misinformation they're reciting is flatout wrong. And the way they're cheerfully embracing violence as a solution scrares the crap out of me -- sooner or later one of those ignorant geezers is going to decide to do more than toss bricks. Someone's going to get shot or a house or office will get firebombed because those crackers can't deal with reality.
I do know a few tea party types personally. The one thing that has struck me over and over is how many of them rail against the government when they're either former government employees (like retired teachers or postal workers), retired military, or being funded through government money now (e.g., working for a company that does government contract work). They're on Medicare or have health insurance as government retirees, draw a pension from the government, etc. They've spent their entire lives sucking off a government teat, but still insist government is the problem. Dumb doesn't begin to cover their stupidity.
Actually UTS, the tea party movement has been around for many, many years. Just as the civil rights struggle had diversity, so does the tea party movement. The tea partyers of the past decade were usually academics; professors and so forth who were concerned with the infringement of Constitutional rights by big government big business. Some of the activists started off in college campuses.
ReplyDeleteWhat you see in the media represents a segment of angry white Americans who listen to Glen Beck and Fox news and think they are bucking trends. They are not the essence nor do they understand the essence of the movement. They are mere drones following orders from the high priests of counter intelligence at Fox news.
The real tea party activists like IRWIN SCHIFF and his son Peter, along with other tax protesters have been consistent with their complaints about the government and our monetary system for a LONG TIME. Irwin is in his eighties and is serving prison time for tax evasion because he rightly claims that the IRS and the FED are not Constitutionally warranted entities and have unprecedented and ILLEGAL power.
So yes Steve, the tea party movement has been around a long while. And to be honest, the real tea partyers couldn't stand GW Bush because he was a lying hypocrite and in the end started the first bailouts!
Don't get me wrong, some of these tea partyers are racists,but don't confuse them with the ones who have reasonable concerns.
downtownwisheshewasn'tbrown:
ReplyDeleteyou and all of your fellow hobama nazis are BLATANT liars
did u judge every politico by jesse helms and strohm thurmond???
even every reoublican???
EVERY TEA BAGGER DID NOT SPIT/SLUR AND IS NOT A RACIST!!!
racists are everywhere...it is unfair to lump any group!!!
there are no more racist teabaggers than racist congressmen!!!
dissent is being silenced by bashing ALL teabaggers who are being PATRIOTS!!!
SHAME!!!!!
MR
ReplyDelete"So yes Steve, the tea party movement has been around a long while."
The Republican party has been around a long time as well.
In fact at one time most black folks supported them.
However it was Civil Rights legislation which precipitated their transition into the White Supremacist party.
I'm sure there are a few teapartiers who are merely passionate about limited government but if they don't stand up to and denounce the racists and goobers who coopted their movement then they will be associated with them.
most teabaggers are elders because younger people have to work all day!!!
ReplyDeleteand because OBAMACARE WILL SLAY ELDERS FIRST!!!
by gutting medicare/medicaid and replacing it with less quality and more fines!!!
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2078849/thousands_cancel_aarp_memberships_to.html?cat=62
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2010-01-28/news/bal-healthletter0128_1_medicare-health-care-maryland-congressional-democrats
AB
ReplyDeleteI'm not going to converse with you today.
You're obviously off the meds.
BTW a black woman claiming to be "proud to be a teabagger" is like a fish managing a Red Lobster franchise.
UTS you shouldn't be so judgmental. Bob Barr is a good example of a libertarian who chose to stand up and speak about racism in the libertarian movement. There are quite a few people out there who you might not see on CNN that are interesting, intelligent and diverse who are political independents; they are not members of the GOP or the DEMS. I am one of them. I am a political independent and have been for years. I vote Dem, GOPer, Green and whoever else I think can get the job done.
ReplyDeleteYes the GOP has been around for a long time, but the tea party movement is not solely consistent of Republicans and there's even been some GOPer backlash against tea partyers.
You'd be better off directing your ire towards neo nazis and out racists rather than trying to say that tea partyers are all or even mostly racist; that is hardly the truth.
Have you read any of the 1000+ pages in the healthcare reform bill? If so, you'd be surprised at the limitation of coverage and RIGHTS that it imposes on seniors and the disabled. But don't take my word for it. READ pages 1-120 to see what I am talking about and then you might be able to understand some of these people's ire.
In the end, I could really give a damn about the cult of personality surrounding most politicians. Give me the facts.
The FACTS tell me that this reform package, although well intentioned, is terribly misguided. And like I said before insurance companies WROTE the majority of the bill, so what are we really getting?
AB you know I feel a lot of what you say and we have a lot of things in common, since neither of us supports the Dems or the Repubs and neither of us are Libertarians, so help me understand what appears to be an obvious anti-immigrant and anti-black streak among the Tea Party folks and other rightist.
ReplyDeleteNow I will agree that they are right on about a lot of things, esp. the idea that the banks have socialized their losses. They nailed Obama on his lack of effectiveness on dealing with foreclosures, the bailout and his closeness to Wall Street. Contrary to popular belief the majority of Obama's campaign funds came from Wall Street and Wall Street law firms.
Somebody on this blog pointed to a list of legislation that Obama had passed, but the point is that there is no real follow through by his administration, which makes the legislation suspect.
For example I think it was the TARP funds that were supposed to go to banks to help homeowners refinance, who were in possible foreclosure, but that money was put in the banks pockets. I work with a group that works with folks who are trying to renegotiate based on these funds and ALL the banks response has been is to play the mortgage holders off and deny, deny, deny. And these are folks who have money.
So I feel them on this.
And unlike you and Karen many of the TP'ers support the US wars of aggression.
And I don't ever hear them complain about the defense budget.
Nor have I heard them complain about the US double standard in public education.
And from what I heard out of their own mouths many were opposed to Universal Health Care (and this watered down reform)because they didn't want to pay for someone else's health care. Yes and some were opposed to it because the gov't was going to run it. But many don't have any problem with their gov't run Medicare and Medicaid. And they haven't refused to accept their gov't delivered mail.
I disagree that millions of black folks are Tea Partiers. I think they are dissatisfied, but they are not TPers because they see what everyone else sees.
If you are saying they have problems with the gov't I agree, and of course they are tricked by and diverted by the color of the presidents skin.
There is a deep seated sense of racism, sexism and homophobia, isolationism, warmongering and selfishness that seems to mark the Tea Party movement.
I think you and Karen are exceptions. Karen sounds like good people. So my objections are not personal.
The Oath keepers seem to be serious about upholding the constitution no matter where your politics fall. I actually find them to be a bit more open, which is really interesting.
Maybe there is a Third way. Maybe we can find others who are opposed to all the gov't abuses but also opposed to their wars of aggression, their sexism, their homophobia,their racism, and support the rights of workers, immigrants and poor people.
dwhwb:
ReplyDeletea colorist neocon hobama nazi nigger who does not own a bank yet blindly worships hobama...
who does nothing but play on his pc all day while the teabaggers are actually on hobama's lawn PROTESTING the same blackish dog he worships...
who is a BRAZEN BLACKENED FISH FACED fool that is suicidally praising hobama's biggest fish net/obamcare to date...
a blind coward who is too moronic to even try to know that he is ALREADY A DEAD fish in that net...
should NEVER EVER dare spew such corny yet self deprecating gallows humor about FRANCHISED DEAD FISH CHAINS!!!!
unlike u, the SMARTER fish at red lobster DO KNOW that they are COOKED PREY!!!
http://www.slepton.com/slepton/viewcontent.pl?id=3112
My screen background on my work PC is a picture of an teabaggin' old white lady holding up a sign that says, "Teabaggin for Jesus" lol. What the hell does Jesus have to do with this? Nothing! But the picture is funny as hell!
ReplyDeletemell:
ReplyDeletewe agree to disagree
we need MORE dissenters against hobama in ALL arenas not less!!!
some tea partiers do hate blacks and gays and mexicans...just like most politicos in DC do!!!
just as the BPP was demonized while only protecting the black community from kkkiller kkkops and just as psycho rapist oj/eldridge cleaver was used to slander and libel the entire BPP...
the few kkk in the tea party are the ONLY ones being given all the press
and NO one is pointing out that the tea partiers are ALL dead on re hobama!!!!
rk:
ReplyDeleteasked dicedicyicy
she incessantly disgraces jesus even more for even less!!!
"Bob Barr is a good example of a libertarian who chose to stand up and speak about racism in the libertarian movement."
ReplyDeleteHe did?
I remember Barr speaking before white supremacists groups and being one of the most vocal opponents of hate crime legislation.
We have to agree to disagree on this one MR.
I don't see any prominent tea partiers or Republicans for that matter denouncing the blatant race hate displayed constantly at TP rallies so that makes them complicit.
mell:
ReplyDeletepeople like jodeetdeetdee and dwhwb actually think it is cool to give 750+ bil to bankers who dared to give nothing back!!!
they did not save any homes as promised...they kept the cash and gave it away to foreign banks/bonuses etc
the teabaggers are irate about this as THEY are homeless!!!
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/20/business/la-fi-mortgage-defaults20-2009nov20
Until we get some public displays against the racism of the tea baggers the nonsense will continue...
ReplyDeleteI am worried about the "good germans" mindset in our nation ..I think it right below the surface and it scares me...
AB said:
ReplyDelete"some tea partiers do hate blacks and gays and mexicans...just like most politicos in DC do!!!"
Good analogy AB.
So I think we can agree that the problem is with the system and not just particular politicians.
I think the solution lies in everyone who has discovered that capitalism really doesn't work for any of us to find a way to work together for the good of all our children, in the US and the world.
mell:
ReplyDeletemillions of blacks DO agree with the tea partiers and we adore tavis/cornel/harry b etc as they slay hobama
we work all day so we are not on the lawns with whites who hate hobama as we do...many of us wk 2-4 jobs to survive under hobama induced layoffs etc!!!
but see the black tea partiers here daily:
http://uhurunews.com/
http://blackagendareport.com/
http://www.slepton.com/slepton/viewcontent.pl?id=3112
http://aliciabanks.vox.com
ETC!!!......
mell:
ReplyDeletemillions of blacks voted for hillary too!!!
it was a very close race!!!
we have NEVER been hobama fans and we are even more enraged now that he has been more BRUTALLY elitist & more CORP green than gwb!!!
mell:
ReplyDeleteditto capitalist mandates a perm underclass
but the NEW capitalism that hobama is spreading over the globe as he is the new blacksish mask of the new world order will keep poor people of all races DEEPER under the elitist class than ever before
the middle class is being nullified globally!!!
and this obamacare bs will bankrupt/unemploy/evict even more of us!!!!
uptownsteve said...
ReplyDeleteBTW a black woman claiming to be "proud to be a teabagger" is like a fish managing a Red Lobster franchise.
UTS, damn that mad my morning. Look, I agree with MR and AB that the Dems nor the Repubs have done much to coddle corporate America. The Banking bailout sucked (though necessary, or we'd be eating cat food because half the major banks would have collapsed) and this bill gives a lot away to the Insurance industry. Fine, its a libertarian or leftist paradise. But lets keep it real.
The Tea Party are the racist baiting anti-government, Flat earth, John Birch conspiracy yahoos converging onto into a corporate sponsored Klan Rally for one damn reason -- a Black guy is now President.
End Of Discussion.
After watching these crazies threaten congressmen over the summer for even beginning healthcare reform and then have the nerve to spit on members of congress, its clear they're not into civil discourse.
These people are not interested in discourse, change or even logic. A set up of private/public regulations a "government takeover"? Do these idiots even know what the hell they're talking about?
mellaneous said...
There is a deep seated sense of racism, sexism and homophobia, isolationism, warmongering and selfishness that seems to mark the Tea Party movement.
Exactly mell. These crazies don't seem to notice that half their problems started with Reagan and without those damn liberal ideas -- grandma would have died 10 years ago because she didn't have her heart meds and they would have all died in car accidents because auto regulations would be non-existant.
If they were truly angry at the way things were, they'd protest Wall Street banks and defense contracts as well. I was in New York at last year's Wall Street protest and you have fit those cats in a booth compared to the tea party. (Funny note, my moderate Republican sales manager was wondering why did half the protesters showed up naked. Aaah, lefties.) And nobody was marching through the streets of Stanford, Groton or Hartford CT protesting outrageous fee hikes in healthcare or unnecessary military weapons. No marching through Orange County when insurance companies jacked up fees by 38%.
Nope, they're barking 'nigger', 'baby killer' and 'faggot' because Congress making it illegal for 6 years to get kicked off insurance rolls because they were born with a condition.
And mell, to your point about TARP, these goon squads are fighting the Congress on the most basic of modern banking regulations.
The only way to battle these fools is to take the fight to them -- not with guns, but with logical, protest and voting.
The TP'ers and their GOP puppet masters are banking on liberals holding their noses and doing nothing. So gone folks, bitch that Obama is Bush with a Tan and balk at Health Reform. Legitimize these loons who would sooner shoot you than help you out of a car wreck. Think that la-la land types like Ralph Nader or Dennis Kuicinich will leads us to the promise land when they can't organize a decent Senate race. And we'll all see real death panels when President Sarah Palin comes to power in 2014.
mell:
ReplyDeletepoor people are soldiers...ONLY!
war = jobs for most poor teabaggers
endless wars for oil and contracts = the ONLY real jobs bill by hobama for all poor of all races
another reason teabaggers tend to condone that as opposed to being bilked for bankers and keeping mum about losing their homes
AB I hear what you're saying but I write for time to time for Black Agenda Report I don't think Glen Ford supports the Tea Party.
ReplyDeleteI know we are splitting hairs here but there are some important differences between the black working class and folks like Cornel West, opposition to Obama and the workings of capitalism.
There opposition is more inclusive. And while you are correct to nail the black church structure with rampant homophobia, the Tea Partyers are ardently homopobic as well.
I think we can agree that they need to broaden their outlook. Tavis, West, Dyson et al were also talking about the problem with public schools and you and I know that the Obama admin is pushing the privitization of education. Which ironically if he has his way would put some of his black cheerleaders out of work, while hurting the kids who would be left out of that scheme.
Tavis and them were complaining about the "injustice" system which continues with the mandatory minimum and the unequal crack/powdered cocaine sentencing laws.
The point is to move that crowd toward these injustices as well and have them examine why being anti-immigrant, anti-women or anti-gay is not good if the goal is indeed to create a more just society.
lackingvision:
ReplyDeleteu and dwhwb are the 2 deadest fish herein!!!!
you are the posterboys for hobama nazis
hobama is a dl bro who has grossly betrayed gays and supports banning gay marriage and has left dadt out to dry....
hobama has given the bankers u pretend to lament carte blanche to spend OUR tax dollars as they wish
he has promised latinos an amnesty agenda that looms while telling blacks to stfu
etc
and u still worship him which PROVES that u are a hobama nazi!!!
lackingapt:
ReplyDeletehobama is also a crack head who has given blacks ONE agenda:
amping up the prison industrial complex with cash/prisons/dna sampling etc...WORSE than gwb!
and you still worship him like a kingfish...shame!!!!!
"The Tea Party are the racist baiting anti-government, Flat earth, John Birch conspiracy yahoos converging onto into a corporate sponsored Klan Rally for one damn reason -- a Black guy is now President.
ReplyDeleteEnd Of Discussion."
It's so obvious.
mell:
ReplyDeleteu lost me
tavis/cornel et al are academics...yet they speak nobly for the uneducated poor masses
the same ones that black politicos pimp for votes and then abuse and ignore
see even louis f joined them in chi by finally slamming hobama:
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01240bb59112860e.html
there is one black agenda for MOST black americans who are not and never will be elitists like hobama et al!!!!
dwhwb:
ReplyDeletethe tea partiers are no more racist than the wm who run DC and penned obamacare!!!
and they are far less dangerous as they have no control over that hnic hobama!!!
mell:
ReplyDeletewhen i say we are black tea partiers i do not mean we take lawn chairs and share beers with them...
i mean we share the RIGHTEOUS RAGE ABOUT THE REAL SINS OF HOBAMA!
see?
semantics aside, they are wiser than his blind black cheerleaders who cheer their own slayings!!!
AB very good points!
ReplyDeletepoor people are soldiers...ONLY!
war = jobs for most poor teabaggers
At some point folks are going to have to say that I don't want to make a living by going off and killing other folks who haven't done anything to me.
For those who think I exaggerate or find either war justified. Think about this. The 9/11 attackers were from Saudi Arabia, but the US attacked Afghanistan. Sadam Hussein wreaked havoc in his own backyard but the US attacked and maimed his country as well.
Our sons and daughters were sent to fight countries that had not attacked us.
At some point AB someone has to say know and lay their rifle down. A few courageous and God fearing folks have done that and we ought to celebrate all who do!
please read the wapo column i posted by courtland milloyy. gives the congressmen a chance to speak and puts his own eloquent --and yes, heated -- words to the outrage. we know these people.
ReplyDeleteClearly we must figure out an approach which gives value to some of the correct themes of the tea baggers without the hate that comes with them..
ReplyDeleteI have an open mind until I feel something is out of place..I am tentative right now and that worries me..
AB said:
ReplyDeletewhen i say we are black tea partiers i do not mean we take lawn chairs and share beers with them...
"i mean we share the RIGHTEOUS RAGE ABOUT THE REAL SINS OF HOBAMA!
see?
semantics aside, they are wiser than his blind black cheerleaders who cheer their own slayings!!!"
I feel you but it would be more effective if we could sit and talk and share
mell:
ReplyDeletewhy should we demand more of white tea baggers than we do of black church demons like dicedicyicy?????
why should their agenda embrace gays when blacks who look like me do not???
we gays are at war with EVERYONE...even hobama who wants us to die as soldiers but give our gay widows no benefits!!!....why demand the tea baggers be solo allies???
people are attacking the tea partiers UNFAIRLY because they are demanding FAIR rep by hobama!!!!
mell:
ReplyDeletewar has always been the ONLY jobs program 4 poor people
as long as ruthless elitists like hobama see poor people as drones and cannon fodder...it will always be so
rich folks start wars BECAUSE only poor folks have to fight them
but at least the drones who died in vietnam were not cheering on the prez who sent them to die like this hobama nazi fools!!!!
mell:
ReplyDeletewhen i look at the tea baggers i see a group of dissenters who happen to be white daring to protest a HORRID prez who happens to be black...
while droves of drones who look like that blackish hobama are being slain MOST by him yet cheer him on as they die!!!
and i will never demonize or libel or slander any entire org that dares to be enraged by a ruthless corp govt like the usa!!!
mell:
ReplyDeletehere is more on the hoax of hobamacare and the fake brawls of repubs and dems:
The Fake Reform
On the whole, the Obama health care legislation is just plain bad. It's fake reform. Most of the people getting medical coverage for the first time under its provisions will get through an expansion of Medicaid. The Medicaid expansion and inclusion of children in their parents' policies till the age of 24 are perhaps the only unambiguously positive aspects of the bill, and both these could have been passed through the House and Senate at any time since the end of 2006.
Supposedly, insurers can't refuse to insure anybody, or jack prices on the basis of pre-existing conditions, and can't revoke policies when people get sick enough to actually use them. But so many loopholes and end runs have been written into the legislation that these and other widely ballyhooed provisions to safeguard the interests of patients are in fact meaningless. The ban on pre-existing conditions for example is negated by allowing insurers to offer “wellness” discounts. The older, the fatter, the less physically fit and the already sick need not apply for these discounts, and the fit will lose them when they gain a few pounds.
Insurance policies will continue to cherry pick their customers in the marketing, and like the credit card industry, insurers will now be able to evade already weak state regulators by selling policies across state lines. This will undoubtedly lead to concentrations of insurance companies in the least regulated states, and a race to the bottom. Health coverage that many working Americans now get will be steeply taxed, and to evade this tax employers will simply offer policies worth less, provoking yet another downward stampede.
Big pharmaceutical companies are assured exclusive rights for even longer periods than before to new classes of drugs, and insurance companies are prohibited from paying for the re-importation of drugs originally manufactured here from Canada, or combining to negotiate drug prices downward.
The ban on selling low-cost health insurance to the nation's twelve or fifteen million undocumented means the border will now extend to every doctor's office and emergency room in the land. And insurance policies offered through “the exchange” are prohibited from covering abortions or a list of reproductive health services.
Private insurance companies will use their all-too-real death panels to continue to decide which procedures they will cover, and which ones they won't, and how much they will pay for them. Health insurance premiums will be capped at just under ten percent of a family's income, but this will not include already high co-payments, or deductibles. In Massachusetts, where a version of the president's plan has been law since 2006, sick people are forgoing treatment because they cannot afford the high co-payments and deductibles, and the flood of bankruptcies from unpayable medical bills is continuing.
The legislation is not a step toward single payer, as it removes none of the legal obstacles facing states which choose that path on their own. It's almost a good thing that most of the bill's provisions don't take effect till 2014.
And of course the too big to fail private health insurers get a stream of compulsory customers, some of them paid for in part with government money.
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=print/content/obama-democrats-vs-tea-party-republicans-fake-fight-over-fake-reform
hobama is a liar and hobamacare is a lie!!!
ReplyDeleteUnder the new law, insurance companies still would be able to refuse new coverage to children because of a pre-existing medical problem, said Karen Lightfoot, spokeswoman for the House Energy and Commerce Committee, one of the main congressional panels that wrote the bill Obama signed into law Tuesday.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jYnajhWrPEXihcCrpRNfUKN7rN-AD9EKTKIG0
mell:
ReplyDeletehobama nazis rule all media/tv news (except fox)...that is another reason only the kkk segment of the teabaggers get press!
the urban league and the cbc agree with MOST teabaggers too!
http://www.theroot.com/views/urban-league-calls-168b-job-spending
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de1b23c4860d.html
maria:
ReplyDeletefyi
i was unimpressed by cm's wapo column
i once adored cm...but like most bm he was lobotomized by hobama's prez win...he has blindly worshipped hobama ever since
i have lost all respect for him as he has never penned a similar column about black church folks who abuse and slur gays FAR WORSE than white teabaggers!!!
ie
he never "got sick" of dicedyicyicy/mr and bashed their teeth in on any given sunday osd their fake evil covens/churches...
he never "got sick" of hobama betraying ALL who voted for him in EVERY way possible from 0%public option to 100% wars and lies!!!
and
he never "got sick" of all the racist dems who are as racist as any repub/tea partier ETC!!!...
fn:
ReplyDeleteanother gay jamaican escapee...fyi
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123ddf3463c860b.html
http://www.advocate.com/Arts_and_Entertainment/Music/Gay_Love_on_Top_at_Mtv/
AB you know I am feeling you but the anti- anti- part of the movement for individual rights is still going to make me nervous.
ReplyDeleteAnd if we are honest we have to admit that some of them are backed by the allies of big business.
Again AB from what i read and hear the Health Care Reform Bill has some serious problems. But, again I did not hear folks on the right calling for Universal Health Care.
How do you explain this contradiction? I mean if these folks are interested in justice and equality of opportunity and of course at least affordable health care for all.
I think we should call them all on the carpet (homophobes, racist,sexist, anti-immigrant folks) including the backward church folks. Things change people change even the church has changed. But folks have to present cogent reasons why they should change and people have to see that their ideology doesn't really work for them in the long run.
To reiterate I too agree with many of the planks of the Rightists protest. But they are not clear about their ultimate goal,whereas I and other revolutionary minded (and from what I can tell yourself and others who read this blog) and even some progressives and reformists are clear about their goals. Right wing folks are not.
AB thanks for the reference on the Health Care Reform as you probably guessed I already read Black Agenda Reports article. It gave good background.
ReplyDeleteI think we can agree that if you give the Health Care insurance industry too many outs they will take them. It is a big business after all.
mell:
ReplyDeletehow can we bash any corp when hobama was OWNED by corps long before any of us ever voted for him???
the bankers bankrolled his entire campaign...the swindleus pkgs were green than u notes charged to us!!!
does not every other corp influence even the crumbs thrown to the cbc pale by comparison???
the repubs and dems will share in the pharma bounties...if we had any real journalists left in media they would have listed their conflicting stock ownerships etc long ago!
just as we found that hobama had stock in the swine flu hoax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cm74KIicfc
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/investing/chinese-drugmakers-soar-as-obama-declares-swine-flu-a-national-e/19209307/
Yup. Told you folks that conservatives were violent al-qaeda enabling scum. Alicia Banks here just proved my point, the way she foams at the mouth like a rabid dog for post after post.
ReplyDeleteSounds familiar, almost Beck-ian...
Looks like the Klan is out in full effect, Field! Carrying a gun won't help because these nuts are quicker off the draw. However, you need not worry- they usually shoot up their own houses. Just treat them like the rabid dogs they are; stay out of the way and let Animal Control deal with them...humanely...
Given all the craziness afoot these days, it sounds like this Health Insurance Bill could have used some mental health incentives. Because boy, oh boy, the nuts are out of the bag...
Ahh..Me thinks that the "teabaggers" have infiltrated my job in the form of women. I'm the only dude - and black dude at that at my job - And I overheard one silly "bagger" say that she is worried that here Mom's Medicaid will disappear, so I asked, "Where did you read that?" Her, "I didn't, I heard"..That Obama is going to sign into law that all illegal aliens will become legal, so I asked "When is he going to sign it?". Her, "I don't know, I heard that" This is some silly shit. All up in the Kool-Aid and don't know the flavor. I wish these fuckers would learn how to read before they open their mouths. And I'm sorry AB, RM, anons but these "teabaggers" don't know shit about what's going on and in some cases I feel like you all are defending them. I seriously doubt that they ever will know anything since they can't even find the time to educate themselves other than LISTENING to a bunch of racist white people. Yeah, I said it.
ReplyDeletemell:
ReplyDeletelike most folks...right wing fols are DISinformed, petrified, and panicked...many ar ecomputer illiterate and undereducated too...and STILL they dare to protest as best they can rather than be hobama nazi drones!!!
that makes me admmire them even MORE not less!!!
a thousand mice can slay a lion...but only if they attack!!
rk:
ReplyDeletei will PROUDLY & ETERNALLY defend anyone of any race and any org who rises against the evil blackish bastard that is hobama and the fascist empire that is the usa...always!!!
so did mlk and malcolm and harriet and all of my s/heros!
rk:
ReplyDelete"racist white people" rule america...as DEMS and repubs!
and racist rich whites OWN hobama and his wars and bankers and lies!!
axetogrind:
ReplyDeletebetter to foam at the mouth as a rebel like me than foam at the mouth while sucking hobama like u and your fellow blind black racist hobama nazi drones...bet!
axetogrind:
ReplyDeletein an INCREASINGLY insane world, only insanity breeds revolution...bet!
thanks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4fI6FbtmZ4
So AB you voting for Palin in 2012?
ReplyDeletealicia banks said...
ReplyDeleterk:
i will PROUDLY & ETERNALLY defend anyone of any race and any org who rises...
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Why would you defend them since they can't even defend their own answers? THE KNOW NOTHING!!! That's the problem I'm having with "teabaggers". Maybe you can help them by setting up a workshop for them and teach them to learn to read a bill before I hear of their "informed" opinions. The answers they gave just pissed me off and these are the people that want their country back. I say Fuck 'em.
rk:
ReplyDeletewe agree to disagree
i defend them because they are telling the truth about hobama and hobamacare!!!
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this is really ok with hobama nazis who pretend that sarah p could do any worse!!!...shame!!!
Fannie and Freddie agreed to pay the government a 10 percent dividend each year on funds they draw from their lifeline. So far the companies have paid $6.8 billion to the Treasury Department, even as they continue to take in tens of billions of dollars from Treasury. In essence they are paying Treasury’s dividends with money from Treasury, the companies disclosed in regulatory filings last year.
Aside from the bailout, the Federal Reserve has purchased about $1.2 trillion of Fannie and Freddie mortgage securities and corporate bonds. The Treasury Department also has bought about $220 billion of the companies’ mortgage securities.
In total, Fannie and Freddie have received direct and indirect federal support worth more than $1.5 trillion.
Yet the companies’ financial health has not been improving. At first, the companies were each entitled to a $100 billion government lifeline. The Obama administration later raised the limit to $200 billion.
Then on Christmas Eve, the administration quietly lifted the cap altogether, effectively giving the companies a blank check. It was one of several controversial Fannie and Freddie-related announcements made on the holiday. After Dec. 31, the decisions would have required congressional approval.
Some of the announcements were expected. For example, Fannie said it would need another $15 billion from taxpayers to stay afloat. Freddie hasn’t asked for more money since last May, but indicated that it will in “future periods.”
Amidst these statements was an even more controversial disclosure: The Treasury Department approved about $42 million in combined cash compensation and bonuses for Fannie and Freddie’s top executives.
The payouts drew the ire of some lawmakers.
“We are paying these people bonuses to lose tens of billions of dollars,” Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas) said at a House Financial Services Committee hearing in January. “What people do with their money is their business. What they do with the taxpayer money is our business.”
http://www.alternet.org/module/feed/mobile/?storyID=146154&type=story
field i wish you would ban that crazy bitch ab. she taking up too much space on yo blog mane. all those posts look like some weirdo having a conversation with themselves.
ReplyDeletedwhwb:
ReplyDeletewhat could sarah do worse???
gwb was kinder and gentler than hobama and spent less too!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/gender-abuse-trumps-politics---rethinking-sarah-palin.html
AB said:
ReplyDelete"how can we bash any corp when hobama was OWNED by corps long before any of us ever voted for him???
the bankers bankrolled his entire campaign...the swindleus pkgs were green than u notes charged to us!!!
does not every other corp influence even the crumbs thrown to the cbc pale by comparison???"
AB we agree Obama works for the interest of the ruling class, which includes big business the big corps and the big bankers.
WE agree that the Dems and Repubs both represent the interest of the rich and that folks have been put to sleep a bit by the Obama phenomenon.
We are saying some of the same things, but I disagree that the narrowness of many of the tea party folks can be ignored or treated with kids gloves. I think that the right wing folks who are narrow have to be viewed with a bit of suspicion.
I like this little saying:
"a thousand mice can slay a lion...but only if they attack!!"
But AB the mice won't even think about attacking the lion if they are fighting each other for cheese, rather than trying to figure out a way that they all can eat and live peacefully and respectfully with one another.
If we (working people,middle class people white, black, red, yellow, brown, old, young, whatever, male female, shemale, gay or whatever) are going to solve our problems we have to come together and not throw rocks at one another.
And AB we simply can not close our eyes to the fact that rocks have been thrown. Its like you remind folks everyday of the homophobia in the black community. While I know a lot of black folks who are not gay but are not homophobic, I can't ignore your assertion because it has truth in it.
What do I do? I do and will call the son of a guns out. But I won't pretend that many of those suckers sit in the pews and in the pulpit are not homphobic.
AB the mice can't attack the lion if they are busy biting one another and it will be a useless attack if they aren't organized, the Lion will pick them off one at a time or one little pack at a time.
Lets find common ground
assnons ignore every single post i respond to because they are obsessd with reading ONLY every word i post!!!!
ReplyDeleteassnons count because they cannot debate!!!
i hate illiterate whiny assnons!!!
mell:
ReplyDeletei adore u
but did u read ax's post???
HE ATTACKED THE FOAM IN THE MOUTH OF FELLOW MICE AND DID NOT EVEN MENTION THE CHEESE!!!
these BLACK SUICIDAL adoring hobama nazis are not cheesing they are cheeering HOBAMA BLINDLY AND EXCLUSIVELY!!!
they are not even in the fight...they are hobama fans slandering and cursing each fighting mouse in every arena!!!
unlike u, i will not even pretend to be concerned with hobama nazi niggers who are NEVER in my armies or my tribes...and never will be!!!
ie
harriet ignored niggers to scared to run away...she did not waste time convincing them...she just slew them when they punked out on the railroad...nahmean??
i will waste no time and keep warring!
The Dramacrats and their echo chambers are going full-tilt hysteria on violence and threats of violence from opponents of the Health Care Takeover. (None of which have been confirmed and some have been definitively refuted.) Even though no one on the right has been proven to have committed or even advocated violence, simpering leftists are insisting we denounce it as though it has. I'm not falling for that trick. Just like the fake "Nigger" story last week - Lewis to his credit admits he never heard it - this is propaganda tactic designed to distract the populace. Gullible fools lie Field are right there to run with it. You are a puppet on strings.
ReplyDeleteWhy is Alicia Banks so disrespectful? That's why she's always at odds with everyone on this blog. The problem is Alicia.
ReplyDeleteFake "nigger" story???
ReplyDeletehttp://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20100320/pl_mcclatchy/3457015
Yeah that's right Jethro.
You aren't falling for no "librul" propoganda.
You get your truth straight from Drugbo's oxycotin laden ass.
It is fake, fake as your intellectual pretensions, you racist old jerk off.
ReplyDeleteHouse-negro Obama does not run this country...he was chosen to govern the white elite's affairs...period.
ReplyDeleteAND...to all you foolish folks here on that "tea party" bullshit, get this straight...the Tea Party ain't nothing but another diversion, created for the masses that have been brainwashed into believing that they have to "take their country back"...but my question to those folks here who support that bullshit is, who are they taking it back from?
Niggers...immigrants...pro-choicers?
White folks (or ANYONE) that believes and participates in this so-called movement are complete dupes...do you really think that Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh really believe all that shit they espouse? There is no left or right...just greed and avarice...its about the benjamins folks...and everyone is being played like suckas!
C'mon people wake the fuck up...
The Demoncrats and Repugnicants are just two-sides of the same coin...politically and economically, their on the same side and as soon as you fools understand this, the sooner we can accept that this country is KAPUT!
Now go back to watching American Idol, Faux News, Keith Olbermann or some other mindless, brain-mushing stupidity that being fed to you by the corporate-owned media.
Two words: Hegelian Dialectic
seeingwitmy3rdi said...
ReplyDelete"House-negro Obama does not run this country...he was chosen to govern the white elite's affairs...period"
Not the white elite, but the white Marxist elite and their cronies in industry and labor.
And Obama can't be a house-negro, beacuse he's not black. His blackness is as fake as uptownsteve's porn-surfing job.
C'mon make up your minds.
ReplyDeleteEither BO is a Marxist-Socialist Militant Black who took the country from the "real" Americans or he's a house negro chosen to be a black front for white elites.
Which one is it?
Democrat puppets like representatives [Emanuel] Cleaver and John Lewis are nothing but frauds. They instinctively play the race card because that is how they have achieved their lot in life. No one should be surprised that they can’t prove these accusations. They never can. With all these videos surfacing, the large police presence and all the witnesses, I find it hard to believe that no one can identify or find any evidence of their claims. It’s disgraceful and completely unfounded for John Lewis to compare this peaceful protest to his experience on the Pettus Bridge. The situations and conditions are completely different. The truth is these cowards are always going to play the race card because they are weak-minded, cowardly individuals that exploit race by instinct. I'm sure they were told by democrat leadership to manufacture a story like this. Anyone who takes this at face value is a fool.
ReplyDeleteC'mon make up your minds.
ReplyDeleteEither uptownsteve is an affirmative-action phony who took a job from a "real" American or he's a house negro chosen to be a black front for white morons.
Which one is it?
don't nobody give a fuck about u ab i told field u take away from the good conversations on this blog that may have happen cause the bullshit mess that cums out yo mouth. you a loudmouth shit talker. that s why dont nobody come to yo blog. dont nobody like you. dont nobody care about yo funky ass. kneegrows been telling field to ban yo ass for a while u lucky he aint banned you. cunt.
ReplyDeleteThen you have the black teapartiers AB refers to.
ReplyDeleteAll 3 of them.
http://www.thegrio.com/politics/some-blacks-back-tea-party-despite-movements-racist-reputation.php
play the race card? of course when white folk wan to call people racist its okay but when a black person rightfully points out that shit the white folk quick to talk that race card shit. fuck em. fuck you anonymous cunt.
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ReplyDeleteSeeing with my 3rd I said:
ReplyDelete"do you really think that Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh really believe all that shit they espouse? There is no left or right...just greed and avarice...its about the benjamins folks...and everyone is being played like suckas!"
This is pretty close to the truth.
Anon 2:14 what is a race card and how do you play it?
Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete"play the race card? of course when white folk wan to call people racist its okay but when a black person rightfully points out that shit the white folk quick to talk that race card shit. fuck em. fuck you anonymous cunt."
In A-merry-ca today there are all kinds of racism, however there is absolutely NO legitimate expression of white racism in public discourse. Expressions of black racism in contrast are celebrated every day.
Your head must be completely wedged up your ass.
Mellaneous: "Anon 2:14 what is a race card and how do you play it?"
ReplyDeleteIt is what one pulls out to end debate when one is losing an argument.
You sir are not a racist. You a Marxist dupe, but not really a racist.
"Expressions of black racism in contrast are celebrated every day."
ReplyDeleteExample please.
alicia banks said...
ReplyDeleterk:
we agree to disagree
i defend them because they are telling the truth about hobama and hobamacare!!!
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How can they be telling the truth? I just told you they no nothing other than what their toothless friends tell 'em. Listen, I don't care or even mind that they are scared, pissed or whatever but they should have some basic knowledge as to why they're scared, pissed or whatever. But as always, it's all good. It's rather fun watching their heads implode with ignorance.
Democrat puppets like representatives [Emanuel] Cleaver and John Lewis are nothing but frauds. They instinctively play the race card because that is how they have achieved their lot in life. No one should be surprised that they can’t prove these accusations. They never can. With all these videos surfacing, the large police presence and all the witnesses, I find it hard to believe that no one can identify or find any evidence of their claims. It’s disgraceful and completely unfounded for John Lewis to compare this peaceful protest to his experience on the Pettus Bridge. The situations and conditions are completely different. The truth is these cowards are always going to play the race card because they are weak-minded, cowardly individuals that exploit race by instinct. I'm sure they were told by democrat leadership to manufacture a story like this. Anyone who takes this at face value is a fool.
ReplyDelete___________________________________
That's the stupidest shit I have ever read.
And I read stupid shit for a living.
Wingnuts, Racists, and assorted fools.....
Why do you need to have about 500 of you guys together to hurl insults at blacks?
Why can't you guys go up to that black dude at your job, at your school or socially, and tell him he's a socialist, or better yet a nigger?
They mixture of guilt and fear renders you impotent. That's why conservatives need talk radio and fox news so much. They need someone to rub their back and tell them, "it's okay, you dont have to be scared of the big black man."
But you are.
veronice:
ReplyDeleteplease direct me to the angelic persons i am disrespecting...i missed their love letters and respectful sonnets/poems to me herein!
respect begets respect. ONLY!!!
i never disrespect anyone who respects me!
i disagree daily with many people herein respectfully...just as i return the venom of blind evil fools...
got glasses???
don them anew and catch up before you act as blog cupid/cop herein!!!
rk:
ReplyDeletewe agree to disagree
like all sane americans not blinded by hobama as a blackish icon, the tea partiers are enraged that bankers have saved no homes
&
that construction jobs etc promised continue to bleed with massive layoffs
that unemployment pay will soon disappear
that many stats are flat broke and will be made more bankrupt by hobamacare
that DC job stats continue to be insulting lies
that hobama gave his baknker pals trillions and they are wilding on yachts with bonuses etc
they are irate that ALL of his birth and academic records have been sealed....
ETC!!!!
THESE ARE THE TRUTHS THAT MILLIONS OF BLACKS LIKE AGREE WITH!!!... even as black hobama nazi fools like dwhwb pretend we do not exist
This whole charade about the so-called "Tea Party" being down for smaller government, keeping our privacy from being violated, fighting against "socialism and tyranny" is all hogwash...particularly since the movement is being co-opted by the very slimy pols (i.e, Palin, et al)that this so-called movement talks about getting rid of...the true facts are that EVERY Republican president since and including Herbert Hoover has increased the federal government’s size, scope, or power–and usually all three.
ReplyDeleteOver the last one hundred years, of the five presidents who presided over the largest domestic spending increases, four were Republicans. Include regulations and foreign policy, as well as budgets approved by a Republican Congress, and a picture begins to emerge of the Republican Party as a tool of government growth and corporate thievery on their watch.
Now, I'm not saying the Dems are any better but the sheer hypocrisy of those who promote the tea party movement is overwhelming. When I hear pols like Bachmann or Cantor preach about smaller government and "taking back our nation"...I laugh my ass off. Now, I'm not saying that there aren't honest people participating in this movement, who truly feel fed-up and are dedicated to their cause but the fact remains that their "movement" is being directed and controlled by agents and money of the very thing they rail against.
Beck, Palin and the whole list of political boondogglers are nothing more than "the sky is falling" propagandists who are only interested in selling books, getting paid and making sure their re-election coffers are full.
The Tea Party was on-point to take aim at the bailout legislation, but one wonders where the Tea Party leadership (many involved in Republican circles) was when Bush created harmful precedents by pushing for a new Medicare prescription drug benefit and the No Child Left Behind Act...one does wonder, does one?
Now the Tea Party movement is being infested with offshoots of white supremacy and other assorted "anti-Obama" groups that have heap the failures created by their own ignorance and indifference to challenge the status quo that existed long before this man had taken the reigns of the schizophrenic nation.
I'm not big fan of ObamaCare but how is what he's doing any different than what has occurred under previous presidents like Reagan or Bush? It tickles me when I read posters here who tried to intellectually justify their hatred (or whatever you want to call it) for the current CEO of America...ya'll should already know that he ain't going to be any different than those who have slept in the big plantation house on Pennsylvania Ave.
So Obama is much worst than Bush?
Now that's some funny shit.
rk:
ReplyDeleteTHESE ARE THE TRUTHS THAT MILLIONS OF BLACKS LIKE ME/TAVIS/CORNEL WEST/HARRY B/URBAN LEAGUE/CBC/UHURU/BLACK AGENDA REPORT/KRS ONE/PROF GRIF/LOUIS F/NOI AND MILLIONS MORE AGREE WITH!!!... even as black hobama nazi fools like dwhwb pretend we do not exist
HELL YES HOBAMA IS WORSE THAN BUSH!!!!
ReplyDeletehobama spent more of YOUR money in 8 mos that gwb did in 8 yrs!!!
gwb never bought a bank/auto co
gwb never hawked any bs like hobamacare
he hung with less brazen gaybashers
he never invited a demon to pray at his inauguration
he never pretended he did not adore illegal wars as hobama either!!!
wake up obama nazi!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/distinctions-differences-denials-obama-hitler.html
ETC!!!!!!!!
GWB ALSO NEVER PISSED ON THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE EITHER!!!!
ReplyDeleteHOBAMA HAS ALSO ABUSED GITMO WORSE THAN GWB
ReplyDeleteHE HAS ALSO WORSENED THE PIC AND PENAL LAWS MORE THAN GWB
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.4b23a31c3686bc071c5b2ae66b18d1d8.201&show_article=1
A
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123ddfa4604860b.html
"THESE ARE THE TRUTHS THAT MILLIONS OF BLACKS LIKE AGREE WITH!!!... even as black hobama nazi fools like dwhwb pretend we do not exist"
ReplyDeleteWhat millions AB?
The number of black Republicans in America couldn't fill a high school gymnasium.
Tea Party negroes couldn't fill a padded room.
Although they belong in one.
Alicia...you are one serious nutter, huh!
ReplyDeleteGirl, get a grip...you're flare for the dramatic is only surpassed by your inane commentary.
Both are corporate shills in perpetuating the fallacy of democracy.
Give AB a break. She can't help it if she contracted Mad Cow Disease while slurping down a Triple Whopper.
ReplyDelete-----Original Message-----
ReplyDeleteFrom: Justin Ruben, MoveOn.org Political Action <moveon-help@list.moveon.org
In the last week, Democrats have faced racial slurs and death threats. But Republican leaders have been mostly silent or dismissed these deeply disturbing events as isolated incidents. Will you sign the letter asking them condemn the bigotry and hatred?
Add your name
Dear MoveOn member,
Last weekend, anti-health care protesters were out in force in Washington—and some of their behavior was deeply disturbing.
A crowd of tea partiers shouted the "n word" at Congressman John Lewis, a former civil rights leader who marched with Dr. King. They yelled homophobic epithets at Rep. Barney Frank, an openly gay congressman. And one protester actually spat on a Black member of Congress.1
Then this week, Democrats who voted for reform began receiving death threats—one had a coffin left on his lawn and another was told snipers would kill the children of lawmakers who voted yes.2 Several Democrats had their district offices vandalized, and a gas line was cut at a home that tea partiers mistakenly believed belonged to Rep. Tom Perriello.3
A few Republicans have spoken out against the racism and violence, but most are still treating them as "isolated incidents."4 They are not isolated. They've been part of Republican-supported tea parties for almost a year and they're a natural consequence of telling people that reform is a totalitarian plot.5
It's an outrage, and no American should tolerate it. So we're joining with our friends at Color of Change to stand up to the hate. Can you add your name to this letter asking Republican leaders to unequivocally condemn bigotry, hate, and violence among their supporters?
http://pol.moveon.org/condemnhate/?id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=3
The letter asks the leaders of the Republican party to do two simple things:
Unequivocally condemn bigotry and hate among your supporters, and make clear that those who embrace it have no place in your party and that you reject their support.
Make clear that you will not tolerate fear-mongering and coded appeals to racism from officials in the Republican Party, at any level.
Instead of calming the tea partiers' anger, Republican members of Congress have stoked it.
NBC reported that on Saturday, Reps. Mike Pence, Tom Price, and Michele Bachmann all addressed the tea partiers and that Bachmann stirred them "into a tizzy."6 Protesters from that rally then fanned out across Capitol Hill and were behind the assaults on Reps. Lewis, Frank, and Cleaver.7
Yesterday, Rep. John Boehner called the violence and threats "unacceptable."8 But just last week, he referred to fellow representative Steve Driehaus as "a dead man" if he voted for health care reform.9 And while Boehner's office insisted his remark wasn't meant to be taken literally, as Rep. Driehaus pointed out, "It doesn't really matter the way you meant it, nor the way I accept it. It's how the least sane person in my district accepts it."10
And there's more: During the debate on the floor of the House on Sunday, Rep. Randy Neugebauer shouted "baby-killer" at Rep. Bart Stupak.11 And after the vote, Sarah Palin told supporters "Don't Retreat—Reload," and then highlighted specific members of Congress she thinks are politically vulnerable using gun cross-hairs.12
Trapped in Selfdelusion:
ReplyDelete"I read stupid shit for a living."
Well, that explains your opinions. Shit in, shit out.
"Why can't you guys go up to that black dude at your job, at your school or socially, and tell him he's a socialist, or better yet a nigger?"
I'd walk up to your sorry ass and call you a socialist, and you'd take it like a bitch.
Mell: There's your example of a race card. TSC can't adequately defend the statist power grab on its own merits, so he tries to paint legitimate dissent as racist. He is a little worm who talks tough but inside is a coward. He is just the kind who, if given the chance, would gladly cheer the "elimination" of the people he hates. He is despicable.
The Tea Party movement has been marked by racially inflammatory and violent outbursts since its inception a year ago. And while most Republicans are probably disgusted by this behavior, the Republican Party and its leaders have repeatedly tolerated it at events they support.13 But the hateful rhetoric and the tacit acceptance of "isolated incidents" of violence have gotten way out of hand.
ReplyDelete–Justin, Nita, Kat, Daniel, and the rest of the team
Sources:
1. "'Tea party' protesters accused of spitting on lawmaker, using slurs," The Washington Post, March 20, 2010
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87574&id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=5
2. "FBI investigating threats to Democrats," The Associated Press, March 24, 2010
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87575&id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=6
"Coffin placed on Carnahan's lawn," Politico, March 25, 2010
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34982.html
"The backlash: Reform turns personal," Politico, March 24, 2010
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34907.html
3. "The Map So Far," Talking Points Memo, March 24, 2010
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87576&id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=7
"Severed gas line found at home of Perriello brother," Charlottesville Daily Progress, March 24, 2010
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87577&id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=8
4. "Steele: Slur-hurlers 'idiots'," Politico, March 21, 2010
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87578&id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=9
5. "Swastika painted outside Congressman's office," The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, August 11, 2009
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87580&id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=10
"10 Most Offensive Tea Party Signs And Extensive Photo Coverage From Tax Day Protests," The Huffington Post, December 28, 2009
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87579&id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=11
"Armed and Dangerous?" Talking Points Memo, August 11, 2009
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87581&id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=12
"We have something to fear from fear-mongering itself," The Washington Post, March 24, 2010
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87582&id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=13
6. "Tea Party Protest Scene," MSNBC, March 20, 2010
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87583&id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=14
7. "'Tea party' protesters accused of spitting on lawmaker, using slurs," The Washington Post, March 20, 2010
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87574&id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=15
8. "Leadership decries threats to lawmakers in wake of health vote," The Hill, March 24, 2010
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87584&id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=16
9. "Exclusive: House Minority John Boehner on the Health-Care Vote," National Review Online, March 18, 2010
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87585&id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=17
10. "Amid Death Threats, Dem Rep Driehaus Points The Finger At GOP Leadership," Talking Points Memo, March 24, 2010
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87587&id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=18
11. "'Baby killer outburst fuels Republican's new funding ad," The Houston Chronicle, March 24, 2010
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/6928920.html
12. "Palin Uses Crosshairs To Identify Dems Who Voted For Health Care Reform," Talking Points Memo, March 24, 2010
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87586&id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=19
13. "Tax Day Tea Parties Officially Endorsed By Republican Party," The Huffington Post, May 15, 2009
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87588&id=19573-5641099-20Er9ax&t=20
"Steele: I'd join the tea parties," Politico, January 5, 2010
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31177.html
maria said...
ReplyDelete"The Tea Party movement has been marked by racially inflammatory and violent outbursts since its inception a year ago."
Lies, Lies and more lies.
You are a "useful idiot".
Obama is not worse than Bush at all. He is just as bad. Obama is merely continuing the policies of Bush with his own flavor, which are really the policies of the FED.
ReplyDeleteaperpetuallyproudvulgarpervoi:
ReplyDeletehow revealing is it that the moronic nonsense you incessantly post always features something cannibalistic/anal/fecal/
explicitly vulgarly sexual etc....
especially when you are a fat celibate hog who cannot distinguish between your own mammy and a putrid pork chop?
what inane idiotic irony...huh?
mr:
ReplyDeletei understand precisely why a gaybashing evil buybull toting hypochristian dl shrew like you would deny every detail i listed that proves hobama is indeed worse than bush!!!
gitmo is a legal issue and you have routinely proven that you are severely retarded about all laws!
that is why you are dumber than the doorknobs owned by teabaggers!!!
Moveon.org isn't exactly known for its objectivity as a news source. I was saddened to read the SPLC newsletter the other day where they likened the Oath Keepers to right wing extremists! They've lost their focus and moveon.org is a propaganda machine JUST like FOX news.
ReplyDeleteno, "maria" was quoting, but it's not wrong. read the links.
ReplyDeletemaria:
ReplyDeleteyou are lying on ALL tea parties as u indict SOME of them...
ie not ALL of them were holding racist signs etc!
SOME politicos have been fired for sending racist emails....and???
read the links.
ReplyDeletethey are 99% news stories NOT from move on. and they have more credibility than palin and the teanuts! and they have not lost their focus. that's pretty funny to compare them to fox news.
one is supposed to be a news organization, and one is an advocacy group and doesn't pretend to be anything else!
@MRigmaiden -
ReplyDeleteSimply stated and right on the money baby girl!!
mr:
ReplyDeletename one msm that is NOT a propoganda machine?
fox is number 1 because it is the ONLY one that is NOT a fan club for hobama!
people like me who once hated fox now stay glued to it as the only place we can find one iota of truth about hobama inc!!!
"They've lost their focus and moveon.org is a propaganda machine JUST like FOX news."
ReplyDeleteNo, FOX is a legitimate news organization, albeit one (the only one)with a conservative bias. Moveon.org was explicitly founded as a propaganda machine and today continues to serve the interests of the snake who paid for it, Obama puppetmaster George Soros.
Damn Alicia...what's with all the name-calling! You come here and profess your love and dedication to the "cause" but you repeatedly fall into the trap that you so vehemently argue against...WTF!!
ReplyDeleteI agree with alot that you express but you will not persuade anyone with your name-calling. Cool that ish out baby girl!
Anonymous you just said FOX is legitimate but has a conservative bias. Bias and news equals propaganda. It is hard for me to watch national or even local news because the emphasis is on sensationalizing tragedy no matter the cost. For this reason, how we are fed the information, not to mention the complex geopolitical origins of these conflicts, is enough to make a person's head spin. The only news sources I trust now are local newspapers and AP/Reuters.
ReplyDeleteanon:
ReplyDeleteditto!
and who at fox news could possibly be more "biased" than the blind hobama nazis who dare to bash it????
what hypocrisy!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de0aa982860c.html
assnon:
ReplyDeleteam i the only one name calling herein?
and if not, why are YOU calling only me out???
no one hurls more names herien than dwhwb!!!
even fn calls out "wingnuts" at the intro to this thread
i will NEVER follow any SOLO rules herein!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"No, FOX is a legitimate news organization, albeit one (the only one)with a conservative bias. Moveon.org was explicitly founded as a propaganda machine and today continues to serve the interests of the snake who paid for it, Obama puppetmaster George Soros."
ReplyDeleteGTOH!!! And suppose Rupert Murdoch is a paragon of news truth!
You are a deluded brainwashed slave if you believe Faux News is real journalism...and that goes for anyone else here who believes that ANY corporate-owned media organization is reporting "the news".
"The only news sources I trust now are local newspapers and AP/Reuters."
ReplyDeleteAP/Reuters is far more biased to the left than FOX is to the right. There influence is far more pernicious, as it passed along by thousands of news outlets.
In fact, per several objective analyses, FOX sticks closer to objectivity than any other major news organization.
reuters is also a joke!
ReplyDeleteie:
they lie about hobama's bogus jobs stats daily!!
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1715009520100325
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteplay the race card? of course when white folk wan to call people racist its okay but when a black person rightfully points out that shit the white folk quick to talk that race card shit. fuck em. fuck you anonymous cunt.
co sign with you 1000%!
Like they could give a fuck about us?
They hate us with every fucking breath in their bodies.
Most, if not all of them actually believe it's God's will for us to be treated like slaves.They would rather die themselves, than give any type of aid to Black people.
They even show other races, including some of our own it's ok to be racist against us.
Why do you think they get away with the shit they do?
I've never seen anybody get as close as they get to the president, and with guns too!
Nobody gets arrested, Black guy takes the high road, business as usual. I'm really sick of this high road bullshit, we must look like a bunch of gullable pussies to everyone else. We get exploited and used or destroyed at every turn of the hand, and nothing happens. No fight, no justice, nothing. Me personally, If a war you want, bring it.
Me and my wife are licensed and carry. We decided we were going to protect our family at all costs.
This is a different time in amerry-ca. Times are hard, and some people will do anything to get theirs.
Before the flaming trolls hit, know that I don't give a flying fuck how you feel. I ain't gotta sleep with any of you motherfuckers at night.
@ alicia
ReplyDelete"assnon:
am i the only one name calling herein?
and if not, why are YOU calling only me out???"
Because I was trying to appeal to your better sense of awareness on this blog..my mama taught me that you can get more flies with honey than shit, even though they are attracted to both...but since you responded in such a fucked-up way...nevermind.
Shabazz: "Like they could give a fuck about us?They hate us with every fucking breath in their bodies. Most, if not all of them actually believe it's God's will for us to be treated like slaves.They would rather die themselves, than give any type of aid to Black people."
ReplyDeleteYou are a sick, sick person. Seek professional help. It's all free now.
assnon:
ReplyDeletewhat is fuc*ed up is how you dodged my valid question about all the other flies herein!...why you give your vinegar to me alone when so many others herein call many names daily...including fn!!!
if even he is cool with name calling on his blog, why do u bother me alone???
fyi:
i hate flies.
i have no use for honey to catch them.
drowning them in vinegar works like a charm for me!
anon:
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shabassed out is truly a racist retard
ie:
he is incoherently enraged at some fellow broke powerless whtes who dare to protest valid sins of hobama
but he is loyally cool with the globally powerful hobama who has powerfully destroyed homes/jobs/healthcare/ via banks/lies/bills etc....and tells him daily to stfu
shame!!!
shame!!!!
Yada yada yada AP is biased to the left? What? Where are the objective analysis to which you refer? Puleeze.
ReplyDeleteAs to the other anonymous commenter, when people become rigid ideologues they believe that their way is the ONLY way to live and all others are bad people. It isn't that they disagree with opinions espoused by others but NO they actually think that they are bad people. To participate in this thought distortion gives them much pleasure because they can demonize anyone who isn't under their belief system. In their minds calling people degrading names is just fine so long as they are the 'enemy'. Mental illness is a mutha...
Hey fuck u Alicia...as I said, I was just attempting to appeal to your better sense...if u see an ulterior motive in my comments that's your problem.
ReplyDeleteIt's obvious that you're passionate bout what you believe and that's fine but if this is a place where you feel so disrespected...why come here?
assnon:
ReplyDelete2 reasons:
1. preaching to the choir gets boring
2. jesus told me to save dicedicyicy's and mr's lost evil holy souls!
mr:
ReplyDeleteeasier to slur me than defend that blatant lie posted TODAY at your beloved reuters huh?
NOTHING IS AS MENTALLY ILL AS A BLACK HOBAMA NAZI LIKE YOU THAT DOES NOT OWN A BANK OR A PHARMA CORP!
NOTHING!!!!
assnon:
ReplyDeleteyou sure did move from cupid to cursing rapidly...further evidence of your fake bs!
spare me the fake niceness along with your fake arrows...ok?
Alicia please...you diss me with your first response...WTF! As I said, I agree with many of the things you've stated and my initial post was sincere, but because of the way you've been responded to here, you project that defensiveness before you even get to dialogue with me as to why I would appeal to you and not the others...I'm not psychic and I doubt you are too!!
ReplyDeleteSorry for the fuck u and more power to you sista...take care.
Anon 4:58
ReplyDeleteAlicia is a self-proclaimed beast. Beasts are incapable of reasoning and rational thought.
assnons are dumb apes who sit in the jungle peeking through the bushes looking ONLY for me...the lioness that slays them and their fellow baboons daily!!!
ReplyDeleteassnons need cable tv!!!!
see MUCH reasoning and SUPERBLY rational thought daily:
http://aliciabanks.vox.com
assnon:
ReplyDeleteare u serious?
scan up!
you blatantly accused me of being a solo name caller herein...no???
then you swiftly proceeded to curse/call me names yourself!
no bs and no special solo rules ever fly with me
anon:
ReplyDeletei accept your apology
i hate hobama nazis like u hate name calling is all...
peace
ab
assnon:
ReplyDeletecorrection:
i am a self-proclaimed LIONESS!!!...queen of all jungles filled with WEAKER LESSER beasts like you.
fyi
AB --
ReplyDeleteYou obviously believe half the nonsense that FOX puts out about Obama? Did Obama not ask you out on a date back in the 80's or something? Damn, I bet you think he was born in some Kenyan hut and smuggled into Hawaii too. Please, get a grip!!
(Remember what I said about if Fox said Obama was an alien cyborg, AB would believe it. I think we just proved it.)
You know what's funny -- Social Security were fairly crappy when they came out. They got changed over time. Same with Medicare and the GI Bill.
We can always improve on the HCR bill. We'd be up feces' creek if we follow some bloggers' advice and scrap the whole damn thing.
Same thing with Banking reforms. We can scream about how its not independent from the Fed and so on. But small changes are better than nothing. Get what you can and work like Hell to fix it later.
Obama, if anything positive, is the beginning of change and not change itself. He's not going to change anything if the people are too apathetic to make change happen. Its called getting your foot in the door.
He's the President, not Jesus or Satan. Until we all get a grip and see him as just a guy with a really big job and not some sort of secular deity -- Liberals and black folks will be spinning our wheels whining about how he's failed us and many a Tea Party member will loading their pistols waiting for Rahm Emanuel to jump out of a black Helicopter with an Illuminati branding iron.
MR and AB -- you both agree about obama. what are you fighting about?
ReplyDeletei've worked for AP, UPI and reuters (among others). they're all fine. they don't lean one way or another.
msbnbc is right wing, fox is right wing, washtimes is right wing. washpost has become more right-wing with each passing day.
cnn is moderate, nyt is moderate--opinion pages and certain shows tend to be liberal.
two organizations that check the truth & lies:
http://mediamatters.org/
http://www.factcheck.org/
correction:
ReplyDeleteCNBC is right wing.
MSNBC left leaning (or more, with olberman, eg)
LACk:
ReplyDelete"Obama, if anything positive, is the beginning of change and not change itself."
Obama is the restorer of conservative fervor and will be the end of the democrat party.
Maria, I am not fighting with anyone. NONE of my comments were directed towards a particular person except one of the anonymous posters. I don't come to this blog to fight but apparently insults about my religion and appearance have been tossed about here nonetheless. It just shows the depths of mental illness among some folks.
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