I swear, every time I see that little weasel, Mitch McConnell, I want to take a pitch fork to his dome. (I am speaking metaphorically so save your damn e-mails.) I love you Claire McCaskill, let's raise our pitchforks together. These wingnuts can try to spin this tax brake for wealthy folks anyway they want to, it's still a tax break for folks who don't need it, and it will cost us money, damn it! I thought that they wanted to reduce the deficit.
And now, to add insult to injury, "the One" has decided to go ahead and cut a deal with the weasels of Washington. Wingnuts are crying a river, and they claim that raising taxes during tough times for any A-merry-can would be wrong. Bulls^%t! Not raising taxes for high end wage earners will cost us more than the extended unemployment benefits and the payroll tax cuts combined. His O ness wanted those things in his little deal with the devils. Not enough! -BTW, I am writing this as someone who would be hurt more than many of you reading this by these cuts, so I come to this debate from a position of moral rectitude.-
"Administration officials sought to cast the deal in a positive light, saying many of the new provisions would do more to accelerate the economic recovery than the tax cuts at high income levels.
But Congressional Democrats have expressed increasing anger that the payroll tax cut and the jobless aide, which Mr. Obama demanded in exchange for continuing the Bush-era tax rates for the highest-income Americans, were not enough in return for such a big concession.
The payroll tax cut would put about $120 billion back in the pockets of workers and the unemployment benefits would cost about $60 billion, officials said. Continuing the lowered tax rates for the highest-earners, by contrast, would cost the government $700 billion in lost revenue over the next 10 years, according to budget analysts.."
And now, to add insult to injury, "the One" has decided to go ahead and cut a deal with the weasels of Washington. Wingnuts are crying a river, and they claim that raising taxes during tough times for any A-merry-can would be wrong. Bulls^%t! Not raising taxes for high end wage earners will cost us more than the extended unemployment benefits and the payroll tax cuts combined. His O ness wanted those things in his little deal with the devils. Not enough! -BTW, I am writing this as someone who would be hurt more than many of you reading this by these cuts, so I come to this debate from a position of moral rectitude.-
"Administration officials sought to cast the deal in a positive light, saying many of the new provisions would do more to accelerate the economic recovery than the tax cuts at high income levels.
But Congressional Democrats have expressed increasing anger that the payroll tax cut and the jobless aide, which Mr. Obama demanded in exchange for continuing the Bush-era tax rates for the highest-income Americans, were not enough in return for such a big concession.
The payroll tax cut would put about $120 billion back in the pockets of workers and the unemployment benefits would cost about $60 billion, officials said. Continuing the lowered tax rates for the highest-earners, by contrast, would cost the government $700 billion in lost revenue over the next 10 years, according to budget analysts.."
Do you hear that O? SEVEN HUNDRED BILLION. (With B) Remember that figure come 2012 when the little weasels in Washington are slamming you about the budget deficit.
Still, I am glad to hear that hard working folks who lost their jobs and now depend on their unemployment benefits might be spared. Folks like Felicia Robbins might still have a happy holiday. You know who won't have a happy holiday? Folks like yours truly who are sick and tired of seeing the weasels in Washington get over on hard working people.
I know what I want from Santa this Christmas: a nice pitchfork.
They are all weasels!!! Field do you have a notion that things will change or do you simply HOPE that they'll change?
ReplyDeleteThere was never a chance this was going to go any where but here.
ReplyDeleteThink SS will be tweaked instead of gutted. Nope -forget about that.
Forget about most of it. Not gonna happen.
I am truly disappointed. I wonder if Hillary would have had more backbone than the O-Man.
ReplyDeleteI was an early adopter, my kids have Obama shirts, I volunteered for the Texas primary, I made calls to other states, I gave money. I still have the sticking bumper sticker on my car; I am not giving up. HOWEVER, Obama reminds me of an abuse victim who thinks it's their own fault they get beaten and deserve the abuse.
It is time to fight back. If the Democrats can't convince people that a minor tax increase on the top 5% of earner is prudent move to deal with the debt then why do we bother.
I need some drama from No Drama Obama. I need a fighter not a marshmellow in Washington.
Chris Houston
Why is it that once I read the word "rectitude" I couldn't stop chuckling to myself...
ReplyDeleteYEs, I am twelve years old.
Now that the deal has been made, the stock market will see some action. BTW, Field, I suggested to you a few weeks ago to add gold and silver to your portfolio, and you scorned me,- telling me I didn't know what I was doing.
ReplyDeleteWell, Mr. know-it-all, gold and silver has nearly doubled my portfolio. Do I need to tell you why gold and silver are on fire?
Or maybe I should... considering you are a dem, free, over 21 and a black progressive liberal who couldn't beat a Republican at anything. You poor libs just don't have the endurance, backbone, maturity or mental capacity to win any negotiations against the GOP.
Politically, the REPUBS are just too much for you weaklings to handle.:)
Now Mr. Field, buy some gold and silver before it's too late!
i agree Chris, don't blame Mitch McConnell. He's honet about who he is and I respect that. Obama is the problem, if he's not pandering to the banks and insurance industries, then he's pandering the the Republicans. The only people he can ignore is his base and especially poor Black America. Actually had it not been for so many white people on unemployment then Obama would not have been for the unemployment extension. He and Bill Cosby would be all over Fox news trying to score some republican points by saying "Shaquita need to stop collecting unemployment and go get a job at walmart!"
ReplyDeleteI say, since the pimps of prosperity insisted these tax cuts for the rich are so they will use the money to create jobs... ok MFers... get your tax cut and if you don't use every friggin dime to create jobs for all those unemployed folk, we get to kill you!
ReplyDelete"I need some drama from No Drama Obama. I need a fighter not a marshmellow in Washington."
ReplyDeleteWhat you need to do is cross over to the GOP. That's where the action is...It's not where Obama and the Dems are.
Obama is thinking about 2012 and reelection. I think this is just the beginning of compromise.
ReplyDeleteJody, "I say, since the pimps of prosperity insisted these tax cuts for the rich are so they will use the money to create jobs... ok MFers... get your tax cut and if you don't use every friggin dime to create jobs for all those unemployed folk, we get to kill you!"
ReplyDeleteDear Jody, where have you been for so long? I have missed you.
Happy Holidays!
Btw, your comment is SOooo like a Democrat...but we Republicans know Democrats are all mouth. You talk and yell and scream like children but you do nothing.
However, because I like you, may I suggest that in order to be happy you need to:
"Quit those sorry Democrats and join us Republicans. You will have a great New Year!"
Field, "And not Anon. 9:33PM, I will not buy silver and gold. Why should I invest in something that I have to pay to keep and that has no logical value. Sorry, I like income from my investments. There is no income. dividends or interest paid out from having bullion."
ReplyDeleteField, Field, Field. Your lack of knowledge is astonishing. Did you know there are ETF's, gold and silver mining companies that pay dividends? But hey, it's your money, happy investing! I am sure that liberal progressive LOGICAL mind of yours knows what is logical and what is not.LOL
"Obama is thinking about 2012 and reelection. I think this is just the beginning of compromise."
ReplyDeleteReally? I haven't heard one word from him about this. Did he tell you personally?
I hope his O ness realizes what he has done to prog. bloggers like myself. We have to put up with these wingnuts dancing in the end zone. :(
ReplyDeleteAnd not Anon. 9:33PM, I will not buy silver and gold. Why should I invest in something that I have to pay to keep and that has no logical value? Sorry, I like income from my investments. There is no income, dividends or interest paid out from having bullion.
Jody, I feel your pain.
"Field, Field, Field. Your lack of knowledge is astonishing. Did you know there are ETF's, gold and silver mining companies that pay dividends? But hey, it's your money, happy investing! I am sure that liberal progressive LOGICAL mind of yours knows what is logical and what is not.LOL"
ReplyDelete"Silver mining companies"? No, I am afraid I don't live in Beckville. :)
Do you hear that O? SEVEN HUNDRED BILLION. (With B) Remember that figure come 2012 when the little weasels in Washington are slamming you about the budget deficit.
ReplyDeleteIn my line of work, I move large amounts of money...not my money...on a screen. When you have the power to play with and manage more money than the average person will ever earn in their lifetime, it's easy to have a cavalier attitude towards such large sums...think of a 20 something with a sugardaddy or sugarmommy's exclusive credit card with no limits.
Sounds awful, but really, no one should get tax cuts. I saw the Fed Chairman lie...Lie....LIE to us all on 60 minutes. There, I said it. I do agree with extending unemployment, but this can't keep happening forever. Roland Martin further pointed out where most of us stand in the scheme of things...Unemployment extended for about 1 more year, Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthy extended for 2 years.
Jody has the right idea, but I say that will never happen for three reasons...1. Too many people are too lazy or self serving to get off their asses and March on Washington 2. Even if they did, police and armed forces that are EMPLOYED will put down the mob as ordered. They are not there just to keep law and order, but to protect the elite banksters and the ilk that wanted to keep the tax cuts for the top 2%. 3. Most people have a delusion that they will one day be Oprah wealthy. While I would never crush your dreams, I believe in looking at facts and mathematical odds. The odds are you will never join that club. Please, ignore your wingnut and blingnut preachers and look out for your own interests. Stop idolizing people who want to piss or trickle down on you.
Poor Charlie Rangel. He needs to retire. Censuring him is like giving out speeding tickets to the loser in a NASCAR race. I can think of a lot of people in DC that are far more corrupt. Oh well, if you're black or brown, you'd better keep your nose clean.
Anon @9:33 has a point. The idea of buying silver or precious metals may possibly allow you to eat and pay rent when the greenback collapses ala Germany after WWI. Thanks to the fed, that dollar in your pocket is not really worth what you think.
Field I feel your frustration with Obama, but the problem is that Obama faces is hardcore united Right and a meandering left. He also the GOP are holding out the START treaty and the extension of unemployment benefits. So Obama wouldn't be the Sold Out Nigger who gave billionaires a tax cut. He would have been the Do-Nothing Nigger who just raised everyone taxes and squashed unemployment benefits during a recession.
ReplyDeleteAlso, realize the conservative Democrats and the GOP aren't going to budge, because they don't have to. They just have to hold the ball and blame the tax hike on Obama.
Also, if we want to call Obama a weak corporatist sellout, the Democrats in congress were just as chicken shit as Obama, if not more so. As O'Donnell pointed to Anthony Weiner on the Last Word, Pelosi and her crew had ample time to pass the middle class tax extension before the election in the House. Pelosi was so worried about being labeled the Tax and Spend Liberals during a tough midterm that she refused to put it on the line.
So it's another case of blaming the O-man for everything, while not seeing the big picture.
Yes, Obama needs a little more fire in the belly. And yes, he's doing a lot of things we would have killed Bush over. But, the reality is that the Democrats know that their base is too fickle for a real fight (look at how we're all bitching now) and the GOP only have to appeal to cynical and stupid to succeed.
To anonymous: I'll join the Independents before leaving a confused arena(Democrats) to join those (wingnuts) residing on the first and second levels to the pit of hell.
ReplyDeleteHow can anyone celebrate Christmas and the New Year scapegoating the poor and hard working classes in America. Oh Dickens I hear you..."It was the best of times and it was the worst of times". Ah "the winter of despair" and anonymous is gleeful about it and trying to recruit others to join in this momentary fit of mania.
Field I want a pitchfork now...I can't wait until Christmas!!!
Hey Field, they sell pitchforks at Home Depot, only $35.97. Maybe you can afford one now thanks to the money Mitch McConnel put back in your pocket.
ReplyDeleteObama is just trying to do what Slick Willie did - "triangulate". It worked for Bill, and now that Obama has kicked Hillary to the curb by allowing the Wikileaks dump, he won't have a serious challenge from his own party to worry about.
Now that the Republicans have stopped this tax hike madness, the economy will take off and things will get so much better even Obama will look OK.
It's smooth sailing from here on out for a second Obama term, and you can thank Mitch McConnell.
America is back on track!
"Please, ignore your wingnut and blingnut preachers and look out for your own interests. Stop idolizing people who want to piss or trickle down on you."
ReplyDeleteTruer words....
Smashed..., I get the urge to stock up on Gold; but honestly, when that time comes; (where we pay $100 for a pack of gum) I am not sure I will want to buy anything, period. BTW, I saw our boy from the feds on 60 minutes as well. Was it me or did he seem nervous?
La~Coincidental, I understand political realities, and I am on record as saying that O has not done a bad overall job in leading the country. (Ten times better than the last guy, that's for sure.) But I think I speak for many other progressives when I say that I am sick of the deals with the weasels in Washington.
If he wins two terms and we have to go through six years of this crap what's the point?
"It's smooth sailing from here on out for a second Obama term, and you can thank Mitch McConnell.
ReplyDeleteAmerica is back on track!"
There is this beautiful bell here in Philly that I would love to sell you. It's an antique,- slight crack on the side- but it has a lot of historical significance. Are you interested? I can get you a good deal.
LACoincidental said... "Yes, Obama needs a little more fire in the belly. And yes, he's doing a lot of things we would have killed Bush over."
ReplyDelete"We" being the hardcore left, which represents at most 10 to 20% of the electorate.
However we have a democratically elected representative government, and the majority doesn't want national socialist wealth redistribution.
Obama was not elected King, and Pelosi is not Queen. They are supposed to reflect the will of the people who have entrusted them with power, not enact their personal wish list of utopian pipe dreams.
The democrats have been punished because they over reached. Perhaps todays deal signals that they are finally starting to realize it.
@ Field: I don't want your bell - maybe next year when the economy is booming I'll be needing one.
ReplyDeleteYou don't think the Republicans back in charge of the house is going to turn the economy around? It is, and the resultant drop in unemployment and wage increases will get Obama re-elected, because the American people will have no idea why things suddenly got better.
Mark my words, losing congress was the best thing that ever happened to Bill Clinton's presidency, and it will be the best thng that ever happened for Obama's career.
Keep that bell shined up, and next year, we'll talk.
"The democrats have been punished because they over reached. Perhaps todays deal signals that they are finally starting to realize it."
ReplyDeletePasquale, serious question: What exaclty did they "over reach" with?
And we have a name for the folks doing the punishing:masochists.
Field,
ReplyDeleteWho was that on this board who said "Go Green" referring to The Jets?
"Pasquale, serious question: What exaclty did they "over reach" with? "
ReplyDeleteWhy Obamacare, of course.
What a joke Field, this tax cut for the rich will create jobs alright, but not for the Ameircan people,but for illegals sad to say. Malcom X said it best.WE'VE BEEN HOODWINKED,BAMBOOZLED,LEAD ASTRAY.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ie0bXNzFkw
"Also, if we want to call Obama a weak corporatist sellout, the Democrats in congress were just as chicken shit as Obama, if not more so. "
ReplyDeleteI've noticed a growing number of bloggers accusing Obama of being just that. They're frustrated with the way things are going and I don't blame them.
Except in one area.
The vast majority of these people probably didn't vote on Nov 4, 2010. They may have been voting for "change" back in '08, but it was the blue-hairs and wingnuts coming out in force for '10.
AND SHOT....
ReplyDelete"Obama is thinking about 2012 and reelection. I think this is just the beginning of compromise."
ReplyDeleteObama has been over compromising sever since he got elected, I'm thinking this is more like the end.
I hope his O ness realizes what he has done to prog. bloggers like myself. We have to put up with these wingnuts dancing in the end zone. :(
ReplyDeleteYes!!! Field, has does that song go? 'Dance like a dancing machine'...SING IT FOR ME FIELD!the entire GOP wants to form a dancing line...SING IT, FIELD, SING IT! :D
anon 11:49p lol. is mitch mcconnell doing the 'stroll' down the line? is he twisting and turning while the dems are standing around watching like wall flowers? ROFL...
ReplyDeletepoor Jody and Field.
man I need a pitchfork
ReplyDeletesome torches an angry mob
people with some backbone
and the stones to do the job
we must protect our interests
the economic bottom line
these rapacious evil bastards
will just only rob us blind
with lies and evil rhetoric
made to disguise and confuse
millions of stupid idiots
are smiling as they lose
delusional republican optimism
anonymous ramblings are insane
trillions of dollars wasted
there's nothing to ease the pain
McConnell is not a weasel
he is not a mammal at all
just a cold blooded reptilian
pushing us all towards a fall
and it will cost us money, damn it!
ReplyDeletewow how hypocritical and anti american. SO FORCING someone to give their money to the government or be arrested and have your assets taken is ok in your book and in your liberal mind someone else's money that they earned is going to cost YOU???
Deficit? How about STOP FUCKING SPENDING. This is simply the government not being allowed to steal more then they normally do to then bribe and pay for all those things and areas where they break the law. Illegal aliens, welfare, more welfare and more welfare.
Damn you liberals are totally disgusting.
Please do not talk despairing of Senator Mitch McConnell. He is an honorable man who is doing what he thinks is right and deserves to be respected in the same way you would want President Obama to be respected.
ReplyDeleteYou FN progressive liberal racist dems are really mean-spirited evil minded people. How can you live with yourselves?
It's the Democrats in Congress fault. They should have brought this issue up before the November election, when they could've had leverage against the Republicans.
ReplyDeleteEveryone in Congress knows the Bush Tax Cuts expire at the end of the year but they did nothing, until it was too late.
The Democrats dealt President Obama a bad hand and now they want to turn the tables, legislation starts with Congress.
I still support President Obama but I agree he needs to start fighting for his policies.
Sandra said...
ReplyDelete"It's the Democrats in Congress fault. They should have brought this issue up before the November election"
They lost 63 seats as it was, if they had tried to raise taxes before the election, they would have lost 100.
Obama did fight, and he won the battle on healthcare, but in so doing has paid a heavy price.
Time to get with the program!
Anon 1:06am
ReplyDeleteThey were not trying to raise taxes on everyone, just those making a certain income level. It would have exposed the Republicans for who they are really fighting for, the rich. I believe the Democrats would have done better in the mid-term elections.
Sandra, "The Democrats dealt President Obama a bad hand and now they want to turn the tables, legislation starts with Congress."
ReplyDeleteLegislation starts with Congress, but Leadership starts with the President, and Obama has been a weak leader.
The Dems took a risk with Obama's healthcare bill and lost a majority in the House because of it. Obama convinced them to follow their conscience and do what was right instead of politics. It cost them seats in Congress, left the President without a political base, has caused dissention among the Democrats, and gave political power to the Republicans.
The President is a lame duck and can only hope to be able to work out a compromise with the Republicans on anything going forward. The only thing that will save face for the President is the economy turning around fast enough to put Americans back to work. That will take a miracle.
Can somebody tell me whose photo is that in the sidebar, the first one with the white hair?
ReplyDeleteThis is no compromise, more like collusion. Both parties are corporate puppets, and the wingnuts that called Obama a socialist are looking more ridiculous than ever. If that were possible.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, the health insurance bailout would have been popular if it was actually reform instead of Max Baucus et al. giving their sponsors another massive handout. Wingnuts never complain about corporate welfare for some reason.
The United States, once a world leader in quality of life indicators such as education and a social safety net, continues to devolve towards a morally bankrupt, third world joke thanks to the short-sighted greed of its most predatory 2 percent.
Obama has got the testosterone of a castrated guinea pig. He's constitutionally unable to fight.His idea of compromise is "Give the other guy almost everything he wants and I get 1% of what I want". It's bad policy and worse politics. Everyone (except for liberals) seems to have figured out that the best way to deal with Obama is tell him "NO". Eventually he will cave and give you most of what you want.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/opinion/06krugman.html
America has become one of the foremost countries in regard to the depth of the abyss which lies between the handful of arrogant multimillionaires who wallow in filth and luxury, and the millions of working people who constantly live on the verge of pauperism.
ReplyDeleteV.I. Lenin
Source: Collected Works, Volume 28,62-75
Like children attracted to Disney movies, liberals have yet to grow up and accept responsibility for their own existences.
ReplyDeleteSo, here are the ten top ways the liberal view of reality resembles a Disney movie:
10) Liberals' entire universe is divided into Good Guys and Bad Guys, Nice People and Mean People, Us. vs. Them.
9) Liberals are powerless; their puny little lives are controlled by big ugly mean monsters or corporations that don't care and want to hurt them.
8) Birds and animals and fish and trees can think and feel and talk.
7) Transportation can be effected with little or no fuel consumption, via vehicles such as broomsticks, magic carpets and pixie dust. Much like the cute little hybrids and electric cars liberals love.
6) There is no God, just an unreasoning faith in some inchoate force you might as well call "The Circle of Life."
5) Reality revolves entirely around what they are thinking, feeling and experiencing, as if the universe were a movie in which they had the starring role.
4) Nobody understands or appreciates them. And this fact is somehow of the utmost importance.
3) Collapsing in a puddle of tears is an effective coping strategy; they expect someone to turn up who actually cares.
2) There's no hope at all for a happy ending unless someone more powerful than they magically comes and saves them. In their case, though, it's not a fat genie or a fairy godmother. Instead, it's some heroic and compassionate government initiative.
And the Number One way that liberals view the world as a Disney movie...
1) To get something, they don't think they should have to plan for it or work for it or sacrifice. Instead, they should only have to want the thing a whole, whole, whole, whole lot. (Wishing on a star optional.)
Anon 5:16 am...seriously, do you even have a job?
ReplyDeleteAnd are you willing to live in a country that inspired an Upton Sinclair novel, like we had a hundred years ago and we seem hellbent on going back to?
The fact of the matter is if you don't regulate capitalism it will eventually, and sooner rather than later, kill you while robbing you.
"Deficit? How about STOP FUCKING SPENDING"
ReplyDeleteGreat, let's start with defense. Are you with me on that one?
BTW moron, a very small percentage of our budget goes to pay for social programs. Just an FYI for your uninformed wingnut mind.
Ernesto, Anon 5:16am is probably some middle manager somewhere stuck in a nowhere job with a nowhere existence, and he blames all of his problems in life on his taxes going to poor people. Pathetic.
"America has become one of the foremost countries in regard to the depth of the abyss which lies between the handful of arrogant multimillionaires who wallow in filth and luxury, and the millions of working people who constantly live on the verge of pauperism."
Yep!
"anon 11:49p lol. is mitch mcconnell doing the 'stroll' down the line? is he twisting and turning.."
Oh dear god, that would be a pretty disgusting thing to see.
"Field,
Who was that on this board who said "Go Green" referring to The Jets?"
Wesley, you are mean.:)
FN, i hate to break it to you but the time for pitchforks and torches was in 2000, when an unelected court decided to take away the elected president and replace him with a corrupt loser. i'm sorry Gore didn't have the balls to lead that fight, because american democracy died the day he tossed in the towel.
ReplyDeletesince then, it's been increasingly obvious that this is a kleptocracy, and that the Rule of Law is not in force for the rich, and that our political process is completely determined by money. Citizens United was merely the last nail in the coffin. Obama is a symptom of the disease, and not the cause, and it was obvious to anyone paying attention to his actual voting record and policy statements that he would act in favor of the rich more than than the poor. people just didn't want to hear that during the primaries, they fell for the marketing of "hope and change." i understand why, it's hard to look reality in the face. most people would prefer to watch a lot of TV and pretend what they see there is "real."
but that laziness has pretty much doomed the country. we're a banana republic now, and it's only going to go downhill from here. soon, people will come to understand that we're also actually a police state. gays and muslims will likely be the first targets, judging from the rhetoric, but "out" liberals and leftists with a record of speaking up for democracy will also be scapegoats and imprisoned. my advice to all who can? get out. just leave. this country is at the point where countries like Chile or Germany or China were, before the military takeover. soon, people like us won't be allowed to leave. Menken had it just right: fascism is here, and it's draped in a flag and carrying the cross.
You don't think the Republicans back in charge of the house is going to turn the economy around? It is, and the resultant drop in unemployment and wage increases
ReplyDeletesave that one, FN. please. i'd make a bet with this person about how many pounds of wrong he's made of, but i don't want to share my email with anyone this deluded. you really believe that's going to happen, Vin? you are a very funny person, and very, very uninformed by reality. turn off your TV for a while. and remember you wrote this, this time next year, when someone throws this comment in your face and you run away from it like a little girl.
I have a question for Field Negro. Do you agree with the statement that: Obama for the most part of his Presidency, is a House Negro?
ReplyDelete"You don't think the Republicans back in charge of the house is going to turn the economy around?"
ReplyDeleteWeren't they in charge when the economy tanked in the first place?
Is ya ignint?
"Do you agree with the statement that: Obama for the most part of his Presidency, is a House Negro?"
If that is the case why do the righties, racists and the real house negroes (black conservatives) hate him so much?
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteLike children attracted to Disney movies, liberals have yet to grow up and accept responsibility for their own existences.
So, here are the ten top ways the liberal view of reality resembles a Disney movie:
10) Liberals' entire universe is divided into Good Guys and Bad Guys, Nice People and Mean People, Us. vs. Them.
9) Liberals are powerless; their puny little lives are controlled by big ugly mean monsters or corporations that don't care and want to hurt them.
8) Birds and animals and fish and trees can think and feel and talk.
7) Transportation can be effected with little or no fuel consumption, via vehicles such as broomsticks, magic carpets and pixie dust. Much like the cute little hybrids and electric cars liberals love.
6) There is no God, just an unreasoning faith in some inchoate force you might as well call "The Circle of Life."
5) Reality revolves entirely around what they are thinking, feeling and experiencing, as if the universe were a movie in which they had the starring role.
4) Nobody understands or appreciates them. And this fact is somehow of the utmost importance.
3) Collapsing in a puddle of tears is an effective coping strategy; they expect someone to turn up who actually cares.
2) There's no hope at all for a happy ending unless someone more powerful than they magically comes and saves them. In their case, though, it's not a fat genie or a fairy godmother. Instead, it's some heroic and compassionate government initiative.
And the Number One way that liberals view the world as a Disney movie...
1) To get something, they don't think they should have to plan for it or work for it or sacrifice. Instead, they should only have to want the thing a whole, whole, whole, whole lot. (Wishing on a star optional.)
5:16 AM
The author of this is:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/12/how_liberalism_is_like_a_disne.html
It's funny that everyone can talk about what should be going on. I would love to see some of the critics-not just here on this board-but everywhere run for office-any office and see what they are up against. What will they be willing to compromise to get at least a little bit of what they want.
ReplyDeleteIf there had been more compromising in the past we wouldn't be in this situation now. Obama is damned if he doesn't and damned if he does. Am I the only one who knew that his campaign was a wishlist? And if he is allowed (and I say allowed cuz he got shit coming at him left and right) to do fulfill it, he will? I really didn't think he was just going to do what he wanted and actually get it done they way he wanted to without having to compromise. We've already been down that lovely road of lack of compromise before and look where that got us.
If he didn't have to compromise then in that case we wouldn't have a democracy, we'd have a monarchy. And his word would be final good or bad and people still wouldn't be happy. Then we'd have a revolution. And history would blame still Obama. Meh
Yes, I continue to sip on the kool-aid-I take a splash in my coffee every morning.
Didi
Anonny 05:16 a.m.
ReplyDeleteFunny, your post seemed oddly familiar - and lo and behold, I found this...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2638594/posts
As a matter of interest, do you have any ideas of your own? Are you capable of original thought?
Is this a common course of action for you? Stealing other wingnuts words and trying to pass them off as your own?
Mmmmmmmmmmm?
PC
ReplyDeleteRighties don't THINK.
They just regurgitate what's fed to them by their media demogogues.
Anon @ 5:16: That was great fun. Liberalism is not a coherent ideology. We need to get people who think they are in a Disney movie out of government.
ReplyDeletefield negro said...
ReplyDelete"BTW moron, a very small percentage of our budget goes to pay for social programs. Just an FYI for your uninformed wingnut mind."
Now there's a big, fat softball served up by the uniformed moonbat mind.
Social spending is the largest item in our federal budget.
Social security and medicare alone make up over 40% of the budget. Defense is 20%. In third place is interest payments on our debt.
In 2010, the US paid $414 billion in interest on the debt. For comparison, the NASA budget was $19 billion. Education was $93 billion. Crazy enough for you? Just wait. Obama and the democrat congress have exploded the debt to the point that soon, interest payments will be the largest single government expense.
That was easy.
purplecow said: "Is this a common course of action for you? Stealing other wingnuts words and trying to pass them off as your own?"
ReplyDeletePosting an anonymous comment is hardly plagiarism.
You are certainly in no position to criticize anyone for lack of originality, with your tired liberal platitudes and regurgitated ignorance.
An approving quote (Field sure liked it!) from Lenin too. That's nice. Is Lenin the guy in your avatar? Cause he sure liked to point guns at people's heads; he even liked pulling the trigger. "Progressive" governments killed over 100 million of their own citizens last century, that's better than Hitler! Got any good Hitler quotes for us? Here's one for you:
"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
--Adolf Hitler
(Speech of May 1, 1927. Quoted by Toland, 1976, p. 306)
Are you starting to see a pattern here cow?
chicago dyke said...
ReplyDelete"You don't think the Republicans back in charge of the house is going to turn the economy around? It is, and the resultant drop in unemployment and wage increases
save that one, FN. please. i'd make a bet with this person about how many pounds of wrong he's made of"
I don't want to take your money from you, you probably need it, but I'd take Field's for sure.
I hope you do save this one, because things will be looking much better by next summer because of the stability the new Republican congress imposes on the reckless policies of this administration.
I am just as sure, however, that by the time things do start picking up, you will have "forgotten" this exchange and the improving economy will be attributed to something socialist the President has done.
Whatever. At least America will be getting back to work.
God bless Mitch McConnell!
The country's going to hell and you can't stop it.
ReplyDeleteCut the tax breaks for the rich and they'll just find other ways to suck the dough out of the citizenry.
Give me the damn unemployment extension, jobs are scarce out here.
field negro said...
ReplyDelete"Deficit? How about STOP FUCKING SPENDING"
Great, let's start with defense. Are you with me on that one?
BTW moron, a very small percentage of our budget goes to pay for social programs. Just an FYI for your uninformed wingnut mind.
FN....really with all respect. DId you actually just call someone a moron while stating that only a SMALL percentage of our spending, (not budget as you say as Liberal congress and senate for the first time in this countries history havent passed a budget 4th quarter because they knew it would tell the country the horrible truth) is Social Spending? Really?
And if we cut defense to the bone, do you also believe the big bad world will just say aww shucks, we love those guys now, even though they have stopped paying tribal bribes..(we call it economic support) if the big stick and tribal bribes are no longer there as a deterrent, really? Do you really believe these things? I think Obama does too. Look how that worked out.
When you wish upon a star...your dreams....might hit the worlds reality.
Thank god adults will be back in charge in Jan. America may just have a chance left.
By the way. If you want to tell someone else they are uninformed. You might want to inform yourself just a tad outside of the liberal antireality spinsphere first.
Just for 2010 so far "SOCIAL" spending is 3.9 Trillion while Defense (that you so DisneyLike presume we don't need) is 0.8 Trillion.
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/breakdown
uptownsteve said...
ReplyDeletePC
Righties don't THINK.
They just regurgitate what's fed to them by their media demogogues.
So says the man who cant debate or discuss anything without vomiting liberal talking points and then when facts are provided starts incessantly asking questions that even a child knows the answer of.
You project very much there Mr Uptown Maddow.
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ReplyDeleteSo now Obama is planning to spend $60 billion a year on tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires rather than, for example, a national infrastructure plan that would rebuild America and put people back to work. It’s hard to see how the president will benefit either politically or substantively from this latest reversal of policy -- caving on the tax cuts will only embolden GOP leaders, who already see Obama as weak and unprincipled, and will further deflate restless Democratic activists and Obama supporters. If this is how Obama plans to govern in the future, we’re in for a rough next two years.
ReplyDeleteUPDATE: Five major progressive groups--MoveOn, Democracy for America, TrueMajority, Credo Action and the Progressive Campaign Change Committee--are now urging the Senate not to ratify the imminent Obama deal. Says DFA chair Jim Dean: "Voters - and activists - are not buying the notion that tax cuts for high income earners are the only path to extending the middle class tax-cuts. As for any Democratic members of Congress who are going along with extending the tax cuts for high income earners -- this is the stuff that primaries are made of."
http://www.alternet.org/economy/149114/obama_caves_on_tax_cuts_for_wealthy%2C_capitulating_to_%27bush-mccain_philosophy%27_/?page=entire
the extended tax break for the rich trumps all tax cuts
ReplyDeleteshame.
kudos to obama for 13 more months of temp mercy on a few poor...but the bloodiest cuts are yet to come for us all...
In 2008, Obama presented himself as a clean break from the Bush and Clinton dynasties and a fresh face for the nation and the world. Yet once in office he packed his White House with holdovers from the Bush and Clinton administrations and continued or even accelerated key Bush-era policies, whether in the realm of counterterrorism, Afghanistan or offshore drilling. The latest "compromise" on the Bush tax cuts, extending the upper-income tax cuts for two years in exchange for the continuation of unemployment benefits, is simply the latest in a series of capitulations from the Obama White House.
http://www.alternet.org/economy/149114/obama_caves_on_tax_cuts_for_wealthy%2C_capitulating_to_%27bush-mccain_philosophy%27_/
Field negro is like an abused wife,
ReplyDeletewatch the next blog post he will call him again "the o'ness"
McGuire said...
ReplyDeletepurplecow said: "Is this a common course of action for you? Stealing other wingnuts words and trying to pass them off as your own?"
Posting an anonymous comment is hardly plagiarism.
You are certainly in no position to criticize anyone for lack of originality, with your tired liberal platitudes and regurgitated ignorance."
Wrong. I first posted that the Disney rant was lifted from someone else's blog. Not sure who the person is who posted it here; my guess is it is NOT the author.
McGuire said:
ReplyDelete"Posting an anonymous comment is hardly plagiarism."
Posting someone else's work with attribution is plagiarism.
"You are certainly in no position to criticize anyone for lack of originality, with your tired liberal platitudes and regurgitated ignorance.”
I don't use liberal platitudes because I am not a Liberal.
"An approving quote (Field sure liked it!) from Lenin too. That's nice."
What, prey tell, is 'an approving quote'? Approving what? Do you make this stuff up as you go along?
"Is Lenin the guy in your avatar? Cause he sure liked to point guns at people's heads
No, if you knew your history, you would know that Lenin was the one that got shot - by MI6.
"Progressive" governments killed over 100 million of their own citizens last century, that's better than Hitler!
There were only a handful of progressive governments in the 20th century. I would like to see your evidence that Sweden, the Netherlands and New Zealand murdered 100 million people.
Hey genius anon. 12:13pm,do you think ss benefits are entitlement?
ReplyDeleteDidi said: "We've already been down that lovely road of lack of compromise before and look where that got us."
ReplyDeleteIf you are referring to GW Bush policies that helped accelerate the economic collapse of 2008 and current massive deficit, wars without end, etc.,etc., you are once again not talking about compromise, but COLLUSION between the two major parties. Obama is Bill Clinton Redux, and, as the insurance company bailout he called "healthcare reform" shows, he is only looking to put band-aids on massive, gaping wounds. Ditto his Wall Street "reform". Will either of these do any good? No, they are just delaying another inevitable disaster by, using his own rhetoric, "kicking the can down the road".
McGuire's idiocy part two.
ReplyDelete”Got any good Hitler quotes for us?”
Yes.
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter."
“Here's one for you:
"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
--Adolf Hitler
(Speech of May 1, 1927. Quoted by Toland, 1976, p. 306)
Newsflash McGuire-baby. Evil dictators say one thing and do another. Kim jung-il said that North Korea is a beacon of democracy in Asia. Do you believe him as well?
Hitler claimed to be for the working man when it suited him. Then once in power he enacted laws that made trade unionism illegal, and sent 400,000 Communists, Socialists and Trade Unionists to death in concentration camps. They were the original guinea pigs for the final solution.
You will no doubt remember Niemoller’s moving poem.
They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.
”Are you starting to see a pattern here cow?”
Indeed I am.
That pattern is that you are dim-witted redneck, that believes everything he reads on far-right websites.
Anon said: "Thank god adults will be back in charge in Jan. America may just have a chance left."
ReplyDeleteSometimes I wonder if y'all are paid operatives by Obama 2012 to try to paint the Prez as an actual liberal in order to force his base to defend his collusion with Republicans.
If that's not the case then you are suffering from delusions of the magnitude that would make you pretty much non-functional in any setting save an internet message board.
McGuire: "Social security and medicare alone make up over 40% of the budget. Defense is 20%. In third place is interest payments on our debt."
Military spending accounts for a majority of "discretionary spending", meaning money that has not been deisgnated mandatory by congress. Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid have been made mandatory since we are supposedly a civilized country that would like to maintain the impression that we are a civilized country. This means that we don't want tourists to come here and see masses of people begging in the streets and searching garbage cans for food. That would not look good when compared to our soaring rhetoric about the evils of other economic systems besides our own.
Even though military spending is "discretionary" it is pretty much untouchable because it has become another form of corporate welfare. See Eisenhower's speech on the miliary industrial complex.
Where's your outrage about corporate welfare?
purple cow shrieked...."There were only a handful of progressive governments in the 20th century. I would like to see your evidence that Sweden, the Netherlands and New Zealand murdered 100 million people."
ReplyDeleteAre you willfully ignorant, or just a fool? Small nations like Sweden and the Netherlands are currently in the advanced stages of cultural suicide by progressivism. I was referring of course mainly to the progresssive collectivist societies of the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China, which you well know killed tens of millions of their own citizens in the name of "social justice".
cow: "Newsflash McGuire-baby. Evil dictators say one thing and do another."
So if words are meaningless, why throw quotes out by evil dictators like Lenin? I guess your point is that they are legit if they somehow reinforce your point, but can be ignored if they don't. What a typical moonbat you are, cow.
cow: "That pattern is that you are dim-witted redneck, that believes everything he reads on far-right websites"
Uh oh, cow is calling names and projecting again. Must be hitting close to home.
News for you son: the communist death toll for the 20th century is well documented. Just like their progressive cousins, the Nazi's, their utopian collectivist ideas of "change" resulted in the slaughter of millions of people.
Maybe this time, first they'll come for the cows. And we'll have hamburgers for dinner.
field negro said...
ReplyDeleteHey genius anon. 12:13pm,do you think ss benefits are entitlement?
I am neither the anon at 12:13 nor, unfortunately, a genius, but I believe this was in reference to your orignal statement, which was:
"BTW moron, a very small percentage of our budget goes to pay for social programs. Just an FYI for your uninformed wingnut mind."
On it's face, this is a ridiculous statement, as social spending is by far the largest category of the federal government's budget.
Are you asserting that social security is not a social program?
Well, everyone has now seen how badly this “Bush Tax Cuts” debate has gone so far…there was no debate. The Republicans said …massage my shoulder will ya? The Democrats are now the masseur, massaging the Elephant’s shoulder, putting lotion on his feet…and kissing where the sun don’t shine… cleaning up their shit, adding at least 700 Billion dollars more to the deficit… This shit certainly leaves a bad taste in our mouths.
ReplyDeletehttp://madmikesamerica.com/2010/12/class-warfare-slaves-to-the-wealthy-by-george-carlin/
Yep, that's about the gist of it.
Ernesto you made a good point about capitalism. But you have to understand that most people don't really understand the true nature of capitalism. It is set up to keep going to the well until it runs dry.
ReplyDeleteThe profit motive is its driving force with acquisition that greases the wheel. It will keep grabbing until it uses everything and everyone up.
In the meantime its genius is the propaganda machine it has enabled which makes its victims somehow think that its their system!
McGuire that HItler quote means nothing. Just as the claims that Obama is a socialist mean nothing since it isn't even close to true.
The fact that Hitler tried to pass himself off as an enemy of capitalism while doing their dirty work means nothing.
McGuire you have no idea what you are talking about. Purple Cow and Ernesto you are wasting your time with this guy.
ReplyDeleteHe is an example of someone who knows something is wrong but calls on the wrong sources for cures.
So he wouldn't know a liberal from a progressive or what it means to be radical or revolutionary.
He has no historical reference so he equates totalitarianism with communism.
And he has been taught well by his masters because he has no clue about the damage of capitalism in the world even though its obvious. He isn't aware of how early capitalist treated workers like so much garbage to be thrown out. He doesn't even recognize Hitler as a capitalist.
He doesn't even count the lives lost in US and other capitalists adventurism in the world. He can't even remember that the capitalists dropped an atomic bomb, twice.
I bet he doesn't let the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans --who have died for a reason he can't give -- even enter his consciousness.
He and too many people like him are the reason there is no real working class pushback in this country.
And BTW if capitalist can take from your labor and only give you back what they think you are worth then wouldn't it only be fair that poor workers indeed should be entitled to some kind of old age social security.
But your masters have even tried to convince you to give that back!
Please!
"Are you asserting that social security is not a social program?"
ReplyDeleteYes, I am. And since I know that you wingnut "geniuses" like to stick together, I will explain why and get a twofer:
We pay for social security; it's fully funded by employers and employees. It's not an entitlement because the money that goes into it was OURS TO BEGIN WITH. FDR conceived a great program, but it's in vogue for you wingnuts to attack it now because your puppet masters on wingnut radio and FOX tell you that it's cool to do so.
BTW genius No. 2, did you know that the feds borrow trillions from the social security surplus to fund other programs? W's wars come to mind.
It's good to see some Black folks finally, well at least a few, finally holding Obama accountable.
ReplyDeleteToo bad it took so long. Because had we been on point as soon as he surrounded himself with rich bankers and the Chicago city hall crew, we might have pressured Obama to fight for a public option as part of the Universal heath care plan. Which is exactly what the
conservative Maryland physician Senator, Randy Harris, who got elected on appealing "Obamacare"
demanded because HIS government-subsidized health care plan will take a month to kick in.
p.s. it sure would have been great had Obama singled Randy Harris out along with all the other rich republican Senators out who are fighting so hard for the rich
"He has no historical reference so he equates totalitarianism with communism.
ReplyDeleteAnd he has been taught well by his masters because he has no clue about the damage of capitalism in the world even though its obvious. He isn't aware of how early capitalist treated workers like so much garbage to be thrown out. He doesn't even recognize Hitler as a capitalist."
Mell, you are so right. But leave PC alone. I am enjoying the smack down. :)
McGuire is just a knuckle-dragging dimwit.
ReplyDeleteI mean how are you supposed to deal with a man who thinks China and the Soviet union were 'progressive' states?
He also drags out Glenn Beck's 'The Nazis were actually Leftist' claptrap. But not even right wingers actually believe that to be true. It's just their little joke. Ho ho ho.
So if words are meaningless, why throw quotes out by evil dictators like Lenin?
I never said words are meaningless, and Lenin was never a dictator. I suspect he may have wanted to be at some stage, but he never had control of the Politburo or the Supreme Soviet. The only actual dictator the Soviet Union ever had was Joe Stalin.
Are you keeping up with 'the Ashes', Field? We kicked some serious Aussie ass yesterday... Anyways, no late-night cricket on the box tonight so I'm off to bed.
ReplyDeletenighty-night, all.
Field said..."We pay for social security; it's fully funded by employers and employees. It's not an entitlement because the money that goes into it was OURS TO BEGIN WITH."
ReplyDeleteAll money we pay in taxes is our money to begin with. Social security is just part that is set aside for a specific purpose.
And social security IS a "social program" that is part of the federal budget. Stop dancing around semantics.
Of course social security is a social program. What is your point?the alternative is that we just spend money primarily on wars and defense and of course corporate welfare and forget the worker in their old age.
ReplyDeleteCan you say self-hating worker!
Mellaneous said.."McGuire that HItler quote means nothing."
ReplyDeleteHow so sir?
If Hitler always maintianed that he was sociaist, if the name of his poliical party was the "National Socialist German Workers Party", how can you so easily dismiss the fact that Nazism was a form of socialism?
Do capatalists nationalize industries?
The official Nazi platform, points 13-17:
13. We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts).
14. We demand profit-sharing in large industrial enterprises.
15. We demand the extensive development of insurance for old age.
16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, the immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that the utmost consideration shall be shown to all small traders in the placing of State and municiple orders.
17. We demand a land reform suitable to our national requirements, the passing of a law for the expropriation of land for communal purposes without compensation; the abolition of ground rent, and the prohibition of all speculation in land. *
Does that sound like capitalism?
Purple Cow actually said..."I never said words are meaningless, and Lenin was never a dictator."
ReplyDeleteThe words "Lenin was never a dictator" are pretty damn meaningless, cow. And morally retarded, as well.
As leader of the Bolsheviks, Lenin had a primary role in setting up the entire Soviet system. Once established, he had near complete control of the government. He set up the first labor camps and brutally repressed dissenters. After his socialist policies had collapsed the economy and the cities ran out of food, he instituted the mass confiscation of food from the countryside, initiating the mass famine of 1921-1922.
Lenin and Trotsky killed 4 million people - men, women and children - by mass executions, death camps, and state-caused famine.
And you think Lenin was a great guy. You don't have any friends, do you?
cow sneered: "I mean how are you supposed to deal with a man who thinks China and the Soviet union were 'progressive' states"
Modern Progressivism is not a leftist ideology? The same left that brought us the totalitarian leftist states of the 20th century?
Sorry cow, but history shows us that's it's as hard to be a little bit totalitarian as it is to be a little bit pregnant. The difference between modern progressives and the communists of generation ago is a mater of degree, not principal, and not all that much at that.
McGuire, five minutes spent reading hysterical far-right websites does not a historical perspective make.
ReplyDelete"The words "Lenin was never a dictator" are pretty damn meaningless, cow. And morally retarded, as well."
Gosh really? The words 'Lenin was never a dictator' are meaningless?? That's really odd, because to me they have real meaning. They mean that Lenin was never a dictator. That's quite a bit of meaning if you ask me. Now you can argue that my statement was wrong, but it is not meaningless. This suggests that you are desperately making this shit up as you go along.
To describe Lenin as a dictator shows a fundamental miss-understanding of the Soviet system of governance. Lenin's hold on the Politburo was fragile at best. To be a dictator you would ( by definition) have total control, to be able to dictate everything that happened in the Soviet Union.
As for [i]"Lenin and Trotsky killed 4 million people"[/i] - that shows simple pig ignorance on your part. Try getting yourself a proper education. Not easy in America I know - but give it a go.
"And you think Lenin was a great guy. You don't have any friends, do you?"
I never once said that Lenin was a great guy, I do not believe that Lenin was a great guy. Nothing I have written would convince an intelligent reader that I think Lenin was a great guy.
I have many friends - some of whom are even white.
"Modern Progressivism is not a leftist ideology? The same left that brought us the totalitarian leftist states of the 20th century? "
In many ways the Soviet Union and China were Far-Right states. They operated a system of state owned capitalism. In a marxist society apparatus the state would have withered away.
"Sorry cow, but history shows us that's it's as hard to be a little bit totalitarian as it is to be a little bit pregnant."
Or a little bit intelligent in your case.
"The difference between modern progressives and the communists of generation ago is a mater of degree, not principal, and not all that much at that."
This is where being as stupid as you gives you an advantage. it's hard to know how to respond rationally to a statement as feeble-minded and just plane wrong as this one. I will say this though, you can hardly slip a cigarette paper between the social views of the Taliban and Sarah Palin, and between the right wing totalitarian states and people like you. Fiurther
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