Saturday, December 29, 2012

Throw a Hindu onto the train, and the NRA and the Black Panthers.

I have a very important request for all of you bigots out there: Please read some some books and do some research on the people and groups that you are hating on before you commit your hate crime.

"New York (CNN) -- A 31-year-old Bronx woman has been charged with second-degree murder as a hate crime in the death of a man shoved in front of a subway train, Queens prosecutors said Saturday.

District Attorney Richard A. Brown identified the woman as Erika Menendez. She was awaiting arraignment.
 
"(She) said in sum and substance 'I pushed a Muslim off the train tracks because I hate Hindus and Muslims ever since 2001 when they put down the twin towers I've been beating them up,'" the prosecutor said in a statement.
 
Witnesses said a woman paced the platform and talked to herself Thursday evening shortly before pushing the man as the 11-car train entered the station. The 46-year-old man's body was pinned under the second car after it came to a stop.
 
The woman made "statements implicating herself in the death of Sunando Sen," Paul Browne, the New York Police Department's chief spokesman, said earlier. Security video showed a person running from the scene."
 
If this woman really did commit this heinous crime , it would indeed be a sad thing as Hindus had nothing to do with the terrorist attack on New York city.
This woman obviously has some mental issues. But what about the perfectly "normal" folks who  believe that Hindus and Muslims are one and the same? These are the same folks who believe that the president is a Muslim and that he was born in Kenya. They just don't go pushing Hindus into subway trains. Not yet.

So Michael Moore pissed off winguts by saying that one of the reasons that folks own guns is because of their fear of the Negro in America. This got me thinking about the role race played in America's love affair with the Second Amendment. Personally, I don't think that Moore was that far off base, but I read an article by Richard Prince which raised some interesting and thought-provoking points about the rise of the Black Panther Party and the NRA.

I will share some of it with you.
 
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"The National Rifle Association was inspired by the Black Panthers?
Yes, according to Adam Winkler, a professor of 
constitutional law at UCLA School of Law and author of "Gunfight: The 
Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America."

Winkler said over the weekend on NPR's "On the Media":

"One of the surprising things I discovered in writing 'Gunfight' 
was that when the Black Panthers started carrying their guns around 
in Oakland, Calif., in the late 1960s, it inspired a new wave of gun 
control laws (audio). It was these laws that ironically sparked 
a backlash among rural white conservatives, who were concerned that 
the government was coming to get their guns next.

"The NRA mimicked many of the policy positions of the Black 
Panthers, who viewed guns not just as a matter of protection for the 
home, but something you should be able to have out on the street, and 
also protection against a hostile government that was tyrannical and 
disrespectful of people's rights. . . . "
Winkler wrote about the connection more expansively in "The Secret 
History of Guns," a September 2011 article in the Atlantic that 
preceded the book's publication.

"The eighth-grade students gathering on the west lawn of the state 
capitol in Sacramento were planning to lunch on fried chicken with 
California's new governor, Ronald Reagan, and then 
tour the granite building constructed a century earlier to resemble 
the nation's Capitol," the article began. "But the festivities were 
interrupted by the arrival of 30 young black men and women carrying 
.357 Magnums, 12-gauge shotguns, and .45-caliber pistols.

"The 24 men and six women climbed the capitol steps, and one man, 
Bobby Seale, began to read from a prepared statement. 
'The American people in general and the black people in particular,' 
he announced, must

" 'take careful note of the racist California 
legislature aimed at keeping the black people disarmed and powerless. 
Black people have begged, prayed, petitioned, demonstrated, and 
everything else to get the racist power structure of America to right 
the wrongs which have historically been perpetuated against black 
people. The time has come for black people to arm themselves against 
this terror before it is too late.'

"Seale then turned to the others. 'All right, brothers, come on. 
We're going inside.' He opened the door, and the radicals walked 
straight into the state's most important government building, loaded 
guns in hand. No metal detectors stood in their way.

"It was May 2, 1967, and the Black Panthers' invasion of the 
California statehouse launched the modern gun-rights movement." [More]

I suspect that if there was a Black Panther type organization today openly brandishing guns on public streets, there would be a shift in public sentiment about restricting access to guns. Just a guess.

*Pic from theRoot.com 















 
 
 

35 comments:

  1. Anonymous10:35 PM

    Field, your blog comments cannot be followed because you wait so long to post them. It's getting so that you post the comments almost at the same time you post the following day's post.

    This breaks the flow of communication and discussion. What gives?

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    1. Anonymous3:03 AM

      50,000 bigoted snobs is what gave.

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    2. Anonymous8:58 AM

      And at least one of them tried to ruin a hard working, Black man's life in the real world.

      The only reason they didn't try they crap on Field is because he's an Attorney.

      DQAE

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    3. Anonymous11:17 AM

      DQAE , come on now. Fields cool and all, but he ain't no Johnnie Cochran.

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  2. Anonymous10:56 PM

    "If this woman really did commit this heinous crime , it would indeed be a sad thing as Hindus had nothing to do with the terrorist attack on New York city."

    Mr Field, you are exactly right. Hindus had nothing to do with the attack on the World Trade Towers. But Muslims sure did.

    Did you know that over 300 million Muslims live in India? Did you know that fights erupt in India quite often between the Hindus and the Muslims?
    Did you know that Gandhi was assassinated by an Indian who was a Muslim?

    Field said, " I have a very important request for all of you bigots out there: Please read some some books and do some research on the people and groups that you are hating on before you commit your hate crime."

    I suggest that: "What's good for the goose is good for the gander". That is, you might consider "reading" some books yourself about Hindus and Muslims in India. Some Muslims that attacked America could have been born in India and trained by the Taliban to attack America.

    Still, there is no good reason for that lady to murder an innocent man.

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  3. Anonymous10:59 PM

    I have a very important request for all of you bigots out there: Please read some some books and do some research on the people and groups that you are hating on before you commit your hate crime.

    Unfortunately this request isn't likely to be honored. Most Black criminals who commit the absolute majority of hate crimes black on white are either illiterate or functionally illiterate. 50-75% HS Drop out rate dependant upon the city and normal standards. I doubt they will read much.

    Hispanics, just don't care about Blacks at all. They don't need you anymore and are taking whatever you used to get. No Discrimination policy will ever impact bi-lingual preferred and Ebonics is not a city in South central or Latin America.

    As for guns, you guys confuse yourselves. Liberals and the KKK did start gun-control violating the second amendment to keep guns away from blacks. They continue it today even with a century of empirical evidence showing that their policies as most others destroy safety, security, freedom and cause death and carnage.
    Now the idiots try and flip the script by claiming whites only want guns for one reason, they know that the freckled face kid down the street is not going to invade their homes, so it is to protect themselves against Blacks.
    Imagine that, you just had a liberal tell you Blacks are criminals that invade white peoples homes and you still don't see who it is that is the real racist folks.

    I am protected against attackers no matter their skin color. You can always tell when the liberal idiots can not look at reality, they have to racebait and keep house Negroes firmly on the liberal plantation.

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  4. Anonymous11:08 PM

    Brother Field, I am surprised that the Black Panthers had something to do with this gun mess. I am also surprised that Still-a-Panther2 has not come clean about the nature of the Panthers back in the day in California.

    I now know why Oakland is such a gun-happy dangerous city to live in for Blacks...esp in East Oakland...and Richmond too. The Panthers have made it that way.

    Just think. If there were no Panthers, the NRA would have remained a rifle association for gun control. smh

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  5. Anonymous11:34 PM

    Hear the same piece on NPR and found it fascinating and interesting. The irony of the NRA to take up the argument of the Black Panther and incorporate into what is now its core belief. I don't believe that the 2nd amendment is not absolute as no government would want all its citizens to carry a firearm that could rise up against them. Of course the government will have some restrictions in the type of firearms. If had to interrupt the amendment, it may be that against a militia that is not of the United States. People generally think in the presence base upon the experience at that time, and the future may not be of any consequence.

    One could argument that the Black Panther reasonably believed that they were in constant threat of the police and there was some merit in that argument. White people reasonably believed of the backlash from black people. Hey you never, black people may one day exact revenge on white people. There's a lesson from this, it's not good always living in fear with one eye shut and the other open. Always looking behind your back, boy that's stressful to say the least. That's one heavy burden.

    I work in NYC and must say that I do not stand in proximity of the track because there are quite a few mentally folks walking around in the city. I think people who have an unreasonable fear are the most dangerous. I needed to go the ER when came home from the City on Sept 11 because I fell and sprang my ankle while walking to Penn Station. I had to walk over a mile with that ankle because subway was shut down. Once I got to UMDNJ University Medical and Dentistry of New Jersey in Newark, a nurse of Mid-Eastern descent cared for me. I did not associate him with those individuals responsibility for blowing up the World Trade Center because I'm somewhat reasonable and really don't like the idea of clumping entire group of people because of a few, and I know what that's like.

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  6. Anonymous12:08 AM

    Dear Mr Field, I watched that video of Michael Moore and I wondered where he got the hair-brained idea that Whites were afraid of Blacks.

    NOBODY IS AFRAID OF BLACKS! I mean, we are a powerless group who use a lot of cuss words like Dr Queen does. But everyone knows we are ALL mouth.

    Surely anyone coming onto FN blog can tell Dr Reine/Dr Queen is all mouth and can't back up anything she says. I mean, she is a joke...the Blacks know it and so do the Whites. However, we know Queenie can't help it because she is addicted to compulsive lying, and is a big mouth racist. Even Stormfront can't compete with Dr Reine when it comes to racism.

    Dr Queenie, go see Django. In that movie Jamie Foxx gets to shoot a lot of dumb snaggled-tooth Troglodyte looking white men.

    As a future doctor who hates Whites, get yourself a bucket of popcorn, two hot dogs, a giant root beer and enjoy the movie! ... you'll love it.

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  7. Anonymous12:40 AM

    Dear Mr Field, please share this hilarious video with your readers. Have a great NEW YEAR!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/29/the-best-fails-of-2012_n_2381111.html?utm_hp_ref=comedy

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  8. The "war on drugs" disarmed the black man. It also made life a lot more dangerous, for everyone.

    It has to end.

    JMJ

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  9. The "war on drugs" disarmed the black man. It also made life a lot more dangerous, for everyone.

    It has to end.

    JMJ

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  10. Anonymous3:00 AM

    Crackers only worry about things when it starts happening to them. True story.

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    1. Anonymous9:08 AM

      I think you mean when things happen to heterosexual crackas.

      When white, homosexual men were dying of AIDS in the early part of the AIDS epidemic, no one gave a damn. When the children of Molly and Betty Sue started contracting the disease and dying, hundreds of millions of dollars were suddenly allocated toward finding a test/treatments for it.

      DQAE

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    2. Anonymous11:20 AM

      Don't you mean homosexual crackas ?

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  11. Hennasplace, I take the train into the city quite often myself and I must say that these stories are a bit troublesome.

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    1. Anonymous9:10 AM

      Every since the movie Money Train was released in the 90's, I stopped standing so close to the edge of the platform. Life imitates art far too much in America.

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  12. Anon@10:56PM, you pretty much validated the first part of my post with your comments.

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  13. "I suspect that if there was a Black Panther type organization today openly brandishing guns on public streets, there would be a shift in public sentiment about restricting access to guns."

    Only because you're a race obsessed bigot. What other civil rights do you want to see eliminated, Klansman?

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  14. Ignorance thy name is Democrat11:37 AM

    "But what about the perfectly "normal" folks who believe that Hindus and Muslims are one and the same?"

    Do you mean democrats? The same people who don't know which party controls congress, or any idea of the policies their party pursues, or anything about the politcians they vote for except the fact they have a (D) by their name?

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  15. "When white, homosexual men were dying of AIDS in the early part of the AIDS epidemic, no one gave a damn"

    Lies.

    America turned itself upside down and committed billions to save homosexuals and drug users from their own stupidty.

    Fuck you. Have some gratitude for the actions of your betters.

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  16. Shooter12:29 PM

    "one of the reasons that folks own guns is because of their fear of the Negro in America"

    No shit.

    Negroes are dangerous. They are responsible for over half the violent crime in America, yet make up only 12% of the population.

    In St. Louis, where I live, African-Americans are 49.2 percent of the population, but are responsible for 92 percent of homicide, 78 percent of rape, 93 percent of robbery, 87 percent of aggravated assault, and 82 percent of burglary.

    That's why I have several guns.

    It is completely rational for white people to fear black people. In competely white cities, murder is almost non-exisitent. If I lived in a 100% white area, I would not feel that I needed a firearm. But I don't, so I own guns.

    Black people have to deal with other black people more than anyone. The second ammendment right to protect themselves should be more important to them than anyone. Gun control is just going to disarm the good negroes.

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  17. Wayne's daddy12:38 PM

    If all you nigs went back to Africa, crime would plummet and this country would experience a wonderful Renaissance. Cowardly Wayne, you hate white people so why don't you start. Go on now.

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  18. Anonymous 10:35 said:

    Did you know that Gandhi was assassinated by an Indian who was a Muslim?

    Actually, he was assassinated by a Hindu nationalist. who was enraged by Gandhi's lack of hatred for Muslims:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathuram_Godse

    Proving the author's point, I guess.

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  19. Anonymous12:55 PM

    Field, "Anon@10:56PM, you pretty much validated the first part of my post with your comments."

    7:43 AM
    <<<<<<<<<<,
    How so? As a side tidbit: India treats its women like animals. I am sure you have heard about the gang rape of a student female-who died from it. Those men who did that were Hindus. This has been a never-ending problem in India. Men in India rape and kill their women.

    'Why' have you, Mr Field, remained silent on this when the rest of the world is outraged by this gang rape in India? In fact, none of your FN members have even mentioned it. I guess Blacks could care less about it but are fighters for illegal immigration?

    I do not understand how you folks think. Even your own people can't go to see a movie without mean-spirited personalities ruining the experience. Again, I do not understand how you think.

    And who is Dr Reine, Dr Queen, Dr Nuwait? Are they the same person? I ask because they have similar narcissistic mean-spirited personalities like the ones who create violence in places.

    Mr Field, you are a responsible individual who appears to have a lot of influence over FN Negroes, esp those in the hood....Why won't you address these matters to them? Why not instruct FN Negroes how to talk and behave?

    I am sure all Negroes, including the hoodie student who is in Med School working on her 5th degree, will be most grateful to you. AND, so will Whites, Asians, and Latinos. Mr Field, it's a win-win situation for you. You can't go wrong on this one.

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  20. Anonymous1:03 PM

    Anonymous Ryan said...

    "When white, homosexual men were dying of AIDS in the early part of the AIDS epidemic, no one gave a damn"

    The only people who have increased in Aids infections are Homosexuals and Blacks. For some strange reason Aids never did take root in the White Heterosexual community. Yet it grew in incidents to horrifying numbers for Homosexuals and sadly Blacks.

    I wonder why that is? Do you think somebody is doing something that isn't good for them and unnatural?

    Homosexuals getting aids is like a "crap shoot" so we won't talk about that, but what has me scared is this:

    Although Black teens (ages 13–19) represent only about 17% of U.S. teenagers,they accounted for 68% of new AIDS diagnoses among teens in 2009. A similar impact can be seen among Black children.

    Maybe all that free sex, just kill it if you get pregnant, the down-low syndrome and repealing don't ask don't tell just isn't working out very well.

    It is estimated nearly 1 in 3 Black women have aids and were infected through heterosexual contact with Men who are on the "down-low"

    Scary stuff.

    http://www.kff.org/hivaids/upload/6089-09.pdf

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  21. Anonymous1:08 PM

    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I think you mean when things happen to heterosexual crackas.

    When white, homosexual men were dying of AIDS in the early part of the AIDS epidemic, no one gave a damn. When the children of Molly and Betty Sue started contracting the disease and dying, hundreds of millions of dollars were suddenly allocated toward finding a test/treatments for it.

    DQAE

    Interesting, not sure I understand your thought. I don't seem to recall our first openly gay half black president Barack Bath-house Obama even mentioning aids or saying anything significant about it.

    Are you trying to say there is a White/Mommy and Daddy out there who hasn't taken care of their little deviant homosexual boy enough to his liking making that bad disease go away so you can be free to engage in your deviance as you wish?

    Tell you what, while we work on the cure, stop getting poop on yourself or shooting up or engaging in homosexual or unprotected sex. You won't catch aids, promise.

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  22. Anonymous1:47 PM

    Blogger Mitch said...

    Anonymous 10:35 said:

    Did you know that Gandhi was assassinated by an Indian who was a Muslim?

    Actually, he was assassinated by a Hindu nationalist. who was enraged by Gandhi's lack of hatred for Muslims:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathuram_Godse

    Proving the author's point, I guess.

    Lets get real shall we. Non Blacks have no issues with Indians. Indians represent some of the finest minds and hardest working people in the world, many of who become Doctors and Scientists and or run your local corner store catering to the Black population.

    I mean even Trayvon Martin got his lean/purple drank ingredients from an Indian on that fateful night.

    Blacks hate Indians/Pakistani's as they claim they hold the Black people down by opening businesses in their neighborhoods and thus stopped them from opening a business themselves.

    Or becoming doctors and having Black women like Dr Nuwang or is it old wrinkled wang? collect stool samples for them.

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  23. StillaPanther2......what is there for me or any Black Panther has to say. What Brother Bobby Seale did was symbolic......you would have to been there in that moment of time in America. Today's America is so much different. We are different as a people. We were as one. One black man's oppressor was every black man's oppressor. Historically, the day Brother Bobby walked into that building with weapons was akin to the feelings we shared when Mr. Obama was elected. Of course in those days the computer was not in mainstreame society.....the response was internal in us as a people. Finally there were Black men that got off thier knees (Brother MLK) and put their lifves in their own hands. As far as guns being brought by whites at that moment....I am sure there was an uptick. Whites came to America fully loaded with arms. As a sideline thought....I threww away more weapons than I could count. Being a medic I was fully loaded with medical needs and could not carry the weapons of the KIAs, WIA. The Black Panthers's actions hurried the pace of civil rights for a downtrodden people. Now I am not going to debate about how we have responded to the gifts that the Panthers and myself gave....I do know that we were a smart and courageous segment of the Black population.........A suggestion to all..talk to some men/women face to face about the 60s. The true history of the Black Panthers movement was shocking to a nation that has never respect fully the Black man.

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  24. parvenu5:28 PM

    Sorry Field, In my opinion the Black Panthers had little to no influence on the NRA. First of all, the government took care of the Panthers long before the white public had a chance to even start to worry about Panthers waving guns around. Witness how the police department shot up Black Panthers headquarters in Chicago. There were so many bullet holes in the outside walls of the Panther's apartment that the walls actually collapsed when the police stopped shooting.

    The NRA originally was founded for rifle hobbyists, people who were interested in buying, building,testing, calibrating, and evaluating rifles. I joined the NRA as a youth and at that time the organization was promoting programs in conjunction with the Boy Scouts of America. These programs were designed to be used for qualifying scouts working on merit badges in riflery and markmanship.

    As the years passed a controversy erupted because some members wanted to start including handguns as a shared topic with rifles. Many members objected to adding handguns simply because the name of the organization was "The National Rifle Association", and the name represented the primary interests of its members.

    When the NRA board decided to allow hand guns in to share the focus of the organization, this was the beginning of the NRA organization becoming captured by the hand gun manufactures' lobby. Prior to the introduction of hand guns the cost of publishing the NRA magazine was supported by advertisments from rifle manufacturers and rifle hardware suppliers. However, once hand guns became a part of the NRA; the hand gun manufactures' lobby virtually took over control of the NRA, and the emphasis of the organization slowly shifted from rifles to hand guns. This influence by the hand gun lobby has steadily increased to the level of complete control that is exercised today. Therefore today the NRA is totally indestinguishable from the actual "K" Street hand gun lobbys.

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  25. Know your History8:09 PM

    Ghandi on gun control:

    “Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act which deprived a whole nation of arms as the blackest.”

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  26. A Black Panther Forever said...
    "StillaPanther2......what is there for me or any Black Panther has to say. What Brother Bobby Seale did was symbolic......"

    Huey Newton raped Bobby Seale. What did that symbolize?:

    Seale had been whipped — literally — and then personally sodomized by Huey with such violence that he had to have his anus surgically repaired by a Pacific Heights doctor who was a political supporter of the Panthers.

    http://konspiracybrothanews.blogspot.com/2005/10/bobby-seale-was-raped-by-huey-newton.html

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  27. Anonymous8:32 PM

    A Black Panther Forever, If we Blacks were together in the 60's why did the Panthers fall apart "so easily" on mistrust of each other? I answer for you: Because we folks have "never" been together, that's why. If we were united the FBI could not have so easily dismantled the Panthers. Even today, Blacks are divided, fractured and basically kill each other daily. That's a sign of separation and hatred, not togetherness.

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  28. Anonymous9:40 PM

    Seale had been whipped — literally — and then personally sodomized by Huey with such violence that he had to have his anus surgically repaired by a Pacific Heights doctor who was a political supporter of the Panthers.

    http://konspiracybrothanews.blogspot.com/2005/10/bobby-seale-was-raped-by-huey-newton.html

    8:15 PM
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    Huey proved that he was definitely an animal from Oakland and definitely a Panther Forever, like Still a Panther2, who won't tell the truth about the Panthers. He only talks about a few good deeds the Panthers did, which is a cover-up.

    Somebody please tell me what the Panthers did that was so good?

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  29. field, and anyone else wishing to ban guns, pray tell how a woman is supposed to defend herself against a man without a gun?

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