Thursday, November 13, 2014

Where are the "Negrophobes" now?

If you get tired of hearing the history of the two main political parties and their history with black folks, imagine how tired I am of telling it to you.






Every time we have one of these debates republicans like to remind us that they are the "party of Lincoln" and that it was the democrats who were the party of the Southern racists and the KKK.






They have to do this, of course, because of the makeup of the modern day republican party and the perceptions that follow it.






I am so tired of repeating this particular part of history that I am going to allow Charles Blow to do it while responding to a racist who just  happens to be a republican.






"Last week, the economist and former Richard Nixon speechwriter Ben Stein went on Fox News and delivered a racial tirade completely detached from the anchor’s line of questioning.

When asked by the anchor about a Fox News poll showing the economy was the No.1 issue for voters, and how that poll result might work for or against Democrats in the midterms, Stein skirted the question altogether and instead spewed an extraordinary string of psychobabble about how “what the White House is trying to do is racialize all politics” by telling lies to African-Americans about how Republican policies would hurt them. He continued: “This president is the most racist president there has ever been in America. He is purposely trying to use race to divide Americans.”


Pat Buchanan, the two-time Republican presidential candidate, assistant to Richard Nixon and White House director of communications for Ronald Reagan, wrote a column this week accusing Democratic strategists of “pushing us to an America where the G.O.P. is predominantly white and the Democratic Party, especially in Dixie, is dominated by persons of color” in their last-minute get-out-the-vote appeals to African-Americans, by invoking Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown and Jim Crow.

This glosses over a hundred years of history that will be tucked quietly away into some attic of amnesia.

Let’s review how we got to this point where African-Americans vote so overwhelmingly Democratic and are suspicious of Republican motives.
As NPR reported in July, “If you’d walked into a gathering of older black folks 100 years ago, you’d have found that most of them would have been Republican” because it was the “party of Lincoln. Party of the Emancipation. Party that pushed not only black votes but black politicians during that post-bellum period known as Reconstruction.”

As Buchanan, writing in American Conservative, pointed out, “The Democratic Party was the party of slavery, secession and segregation, of ‘Pitchfork Ben’ Tillman and the K.K.K. ‘Bull’ Connor, who turned the dogs loose on black demonstrators in Birmingham, was the Democratic National Committeeman from Alabama.”

But allegiances flipped.

The first wave of defections by African-Americans from Republican to Democrat came with Franklin D. Roosevelt and the New Deal in the 1930s. According to the Roosevelt Institute: “As Mary McLeod Bethune once noted, the Roosevelt era represented ‘the first time in their history’ that African-Americans felt that they could communicate their grievances to their government with the ‘expectancy of sympathetic understanding and interpretation.'”

By the mid 1930s, most blacks were voting Democratic, although a sizable percentage remained Republican. Then came the signing of the Civil Rights Act by the Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson — although he wasn’t perfect on the issue of race, and the bill passed partly because of Republican support.


In response to the bill, Barry Goldwater waged a disastrous campaign built in part on his opposition. As NPR put it: “Goldwater can be seen as the godfather (or maybe the midwife) of the current Tea Party. He wanted the federal government out of the states’ business. He believed the Civil Rights Act was unconstitutional — although he said that once it had been enacted into law, it would be obeyed. But states, he said, should implement the law in their own time.” Whites were reassured by the message, but blacks were shaken by it.

Richard Nixon, for whom both Stein and Buchanan would work, helped to seal the deal. Nixon had got nearly a third of the African-American vote in his unsuccessful 1960 bid for the White House, but when he ran and won in 1968 he received only 15 percent. In 1972, he was re-elected with just 13 percent of the black vote. That was in part because the Republican brand was already tarnished among blacks and in part because the Nixon campaign used the “Southern strategy” to try to capitalize on racist white flight from the Democratic Party as more blacks moved into it.

As Nixon’s political strategist Kevin Phillips told The New York Times Magazine in 1970: “The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans.”
That’s right: Republicans wanted the Democrats’ “Negrophobes.”

The history of party affiliations is obviously littered with racial issues. But now, there is considerable quarreling and consternation about the degree to which racial bias is still a party trait or motivating political factor for support of or opposition to particular politicians or policies.


To get more directly at the issue of racism in political parties, Nate Silver’s FiveThirtyEight Politics looked at “a variety of questions on racial attitudes in the General Social Survey” and specifically at “the numbers for white Democrats and white Republicans.”

This wasn’t a perfect or complete measure of racial bias, but more a measure of flagrant bias — the opinions of people aware of their biases and willing to confess them on a survey.

That said, they found that:

“So there’s a partisan gap, although not as large of one as some political commentators might assert. There are white racists in both parties. By most questions, they represent a minority of white voters in both parties. They probably represent a slightly larger minority of white Republicans than white Democrats.”

Still, the question is how much of this muck at the bottom of both barrels sullies what’s on top? The best measure many find for this is in the rhetoric and policies of party leaders.

The growing share of the Democratic Party composed of historically marginalized populations — minorities, women, Jews, L.G.B.T.-identified persons — pushes the party toward more inclusive language and stances.

The Republican Party, on the other hand, doesn’t have that benefit. They can’t seem to stop the slow drip of offensive remarks, like those of the Republican governor of Mississippi, Haley Barbour, who referred to the president’s policies last week as “tar babies” or the obsessive-compulsive need to culturally diagnose and condemn black people, like Stein’s saying this week that “the real problem with race in America is a very, very beaten-down, pathetic, self-defeating black underclass.”

At that rate, Republicans will never attract more minorities, try as they may to skip over portions of the racial past or deny the fullness of the racial present. [Source]

Yes, so once again, we get the history lesson. And , once again, we understand that both political parties played racial ping pong with the black vote and for black support.




But now here we are in 2014, and it is people like Ben Stein who are demonizing black people and people like the entire FOX VIEWS crowd who are declaring that we are the racists in America.




It is no wonder then that the black vote (at least for the foreseeable future) will continue to be very lopsided in favor of the donkey.




Pic from homebrewedtheology.com




81 comments:

  1. Anonymous10:45 PM

    Mr Field, this is America. History about what happened 100 years ago doesn't cary any weight today. Surely you know that?

    The fact is Blacks will be crossing over to the GOP so much that the only Blacks left in the Dem Party will be you, PC, PX and the CBC.

    Hell, I bet Obama crosses over when his term is up. That is, 'IF' he survive the IMPEACHMENT BEAT-DOWN he will get next year.

    Brother Field, I am getting real tired of this bm shit. I mean, what's a brother suppose to do?

    And why aren't our bw supporting us? After all we have done for them they abandon us. That's a damn shame.

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  2. Peak Negro11:27 PM

    Blacks are today's racists. They vote as a block where race trumps everything, they openly express their hatred of whites, they demand racist affirmative action, quota, and set-aside laws, they commit nearly 100% of interracial crime, and they protest when property-tax paying whites move into their neighborhoods.

    Face it Field, Ben Stein is right: You are the problem.

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  3. “I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” —Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One

    50 years down, 150 to go!

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  4. “These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.”—LBJ

    Enjoying that little something?

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  5. LBJ's FBI sent MLK a letter in a heavy-handed attempt to blackmail King into taking his own life:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11226618/You-filthy-abnormal-animal-graphic-contents-of-anonymous-letter-sent-by-FBI-to-Martin-Luther-King.html

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  6. http://aattp.org/kkk-promises-lethal-force-against-terrorists-protesting-michael-browns-murder-video/

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  7. "The fact is Blacks will be crossing over to the GOP so much that the only Blacks left in the Dem Party will be you, PC, PX and the CBC."

    I'm not a Dem and pretty sure neither is PC.


    “I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” —Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One

    Sad, we have to go back 50 years to find a Dem quote that's racist. Why not find a Repub one from last week? It'll be easier.

    Wow, racist whites are working overtime tonight.

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  8. "Blacks are today's racists. They vote as a block where race trumps everything, they openly express their hatred of whites, they demand racist affirmative action, quota, and set-aside laws, they commit nearly 100% of interracial crime, and they protest when property-tax paying whites move into their neighborhoods."

    Because all of the southern whites voting in a bloc doesn't mean anything huh? Oh no, only blah people can be racists.

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  9. the GOP12:16 AM

    The Oklahoma House of Representatives publicly reprimanded Rep. Sally Kern for comments she made during a debate on the House floor last week. Lawmakers were discussing a proposed constitutional amendment that would eliminate affirmative action in state government, a measure that then passed the chamber.

    “We have a high percentage of blacks in prison, and that’s tragic. But are they in prison just because they are black or because they don’t want to study as hard in school? I’ve taught school, and I saw a lot of people of color who didn’t study hard because they said the government would take care of them,” Kern said last week in a ten minute speech."

    http://colorlines.com/archives/2011/05/sally_kern_update.html

    Modern day Republican racism. We don't even have to go back 5 years let alone 50.

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  10. Anonymous12:24 AM

    Saly Kern's statement says that blacks high incarceration rate is not due to their race, but because they don't apply themselves and just live on the plantation LBJ set up for them.

    She is explicitly not being racist.

    But PilotXcrement can't get it.

    Are you stupid, or did you just not study hard in school?

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  11. Anonymous12:27 AM

    "Because all of the southern whites voting in a bloc doesn't mean anything huh?"

    Only blacks vote 95%+ for one party.

    Only blacks are that racist.

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  12. the GOP12:28 AM

    "The new events to which I refer were: the Republican Convention held in San Francisco; the hideous triple lynchings in Mississippi; and the outbreak of riots in several Northern cities.

    The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The "best man" at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade.

    It was both unfortunate and disastrous that the Republican Party nominated Barry Goldwater as its candidate for President of the United States. In foreign policy Mr. Goldwater advocated a narrow nationalism, a crippling isolationism, and a trigger-happy attitude that could plunge the whole world into the dark abyss of annihilation. On social and economic issues, Mr. Goldwater represented an unrealistic conservatism that was totally out of touch with the realities of the twentieth century. The issue of poverty compelled the attention of all citizens of our country. Senator Goldwater had neither the concern nor the comprehension necessary to grapple with this problem of poverty in the fashion that the historical moment dictated. On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represented a philosophy that was morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulated a philosophy which gave aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America, I had no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy.

    While I had followed a policy of not endorsing political candidates, I felt that the prospect of Senator Goldwater being President of the United States so threatened the health, morality, and survival of our nation, that I could not in good conscience fail to take a stand against what he represented."

    The words of Dr. King himself.

    https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/king-papers/publications/autobiography-martin-luther-king-jr-contents/chapter-23-mississippi

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  13. the GOP12:31 AM

    "Saly Kern's statement says that blacks high incarceration rate is not due to their race, but because they don't apply themselves and just live on the plantation LBJ set up for them."

    Gee, I wonder why she then had to apologize for her remarks. You are a good little Republican, sticking up for your racist partiers.

    "Only blacks vote 95%+ for one party."

    Nope, 90+% of whites in Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia vote Republican. There are 0 white Dems in the south. So maybe that number is closer to 100%

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  14. the GOP12:33 AM

    "Formerly surging GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum, now struggling, is trying to deny ever saying, “I don’t want to make black people’s lives better by giving them somebody else’s money. I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money.” Even though the day after he appeared to make that familiar old GOP argument, he didn’t deny it. What gives?"

    http://www.salon.com/2012/01/05/rick_santorum_flip_flops_on_black_people/

    Yep, a leading REPUBLICAN Presidential candidate goes full QLB on us.

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  15. the GOP12:36 AM

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/upshot/southern-whites-loyalty-to-gop-nearing-that-of-blacks-to-democrats.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=1

    "From the high plains of West Texas to the Atlantic Coast of Georgia, white voters opposed Mr. Obama’s re-election in overwhelming numbers. In many counties 90 percent of white voters chose Mitt Romney, nearly the reversal of the margin by which black voters supported Mr. Obama.

    While white Southerners have been voting Republican for decades, the hugeness of the gap was new. Mr. Obama often lost more than 40 percent of Al Gore’s support among white voters south of the historically significant line of the Missouri Compromise. Two centuries later, Southern politics are deeply polarized along racial lines. It is no exaggeration to suggest that in these states the Democrats have become the party of African Americans and that the Republicans are the party of whites."

    I guess this is what happens when racists can't get over the fact a blah man is in the WH.

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  16. the GOP12:40 AM

    "It is impossible to discuss Mr. Obama’s weakness among Southern whites without mention of race. It is surely a factor, and perhaps even a large one. Mr. Obama performed significantly worse than John Kerry among Southern whites, even though both were Northern liberals and 2008 was a far better year for Democrats than 2004. (The estimates are derived from census and exit poll data). And the pattern of white support in the 2012 presidential election is an eerie reversal of post-Reconstruction presidential elections, when Jim Crow laws rendered blacks ineligible to vote and Democrats won the so-called Solid South by similar margins."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/upshot/southern-whites-loyalty-to-gop-nearing-that-of-blacks-to-democrats.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=1

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  17. PilotDumbass said..
    Gee, I wonder why she then had to apologize for her remarks
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    Because we live in Black Run America.

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  18. Anonymous12:47 AM

    "Only blacks vote 95%+ for one party."

    Maybe that's because Republicans don't like blah people. The FINALLY let one blah female in the congress and have only two blah members in 2014! The Dems have 22X the number. Hmmmmm, who knows, maybe by 2015 there might even be 3 or 4 blah people in the GOP. Yeah right. Ha!!!!!! Racists!

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  19. Nat Turner12:48 AM

    "Because we live in Black Run America."

    Damn right white boy!!!!!!! And you better get used to it!

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  20. the GOP12:49 AM

    "Because we live in Black Run America."

    You can always join the Republican party because ain't no Negroes over there.

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  21. Peak Negro12:51 AM

    the GOP said...

    "It is impossible to discuss Mr. Obama’s weakness among Southern whites without mention of race. It is surely a factor, and perhaps even a large one.
    ----

    Yep, the democrats hatred of whites is a factor.

    Whites that live in states with large numbers of blacks know the score.

    Whites where there are few blacks still vote liberal, but the Democrat Party's overt anti-white platform is starting to sink in.

    It's time to fight the real racists.

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  22. the GOP12:54 AM

    "Because we live in Black Run America."

    Reince Preibus, white male head of the RNC.

    Bryan Cutler, white male, House majority whip.

    John Bohner, white male, Speaker of the House.

    Kevin McCarthy, white male, House majority leader.

    Every single Republican president, white male.

    See, you're in good company. i know the election of a darkie has you scared but don't worry, the klan er I mean the GOP will protect you from Ebola and darkies.

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  23. GOP=KKK12:57 AM

    "Whites that live in states with large numbers of blacks know the score."

    You mean like Mississippi and Georgia? I think they've known the "score" for years. And that wasn't blah folks being the racists. You are one dumb muther fucker but then again racists usually are.

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  24. teh stupid12:58 AM

    "Yep, the democrats hatred of whites is a factor."

    Dumbest comment of the century!
    The stoooopid is strong in this one.

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  25. Peak Trailerpark Dweller1:00 AM

    "Yep, the democrats hatred of whites is a factor."


    You mean the democrats hatred of dumbass whites like you and Palin.

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  26. Anonymous1:00 AM

    PilotX has no idea what Black Run America means.

    Go figure.

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  27. Anonymous1:01 AM

    PilotDumbass

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  28. Q: "And why aren't our bw supporting us?"

    A: "...getting real tired of this bm shit."

    Q: "what's a brother suppose to do?"

    A: act Right.

    :)

    https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=701020109948138&pnref=story

    i got Much Love for the kings.

    always.

    Blessings!

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  29. Anonymous1:19 AM

    "PilotX has no idea what Black Run America means."

    It's some stupid shit one of the dumbass racists here made up. Everybody knows that.

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  30. Bobby Jindal1:20 AM

    "Only blacks vote 95%+ for one party."

    The only question is why 5% would vote for the stoooopid party?

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  31. Bin Stain knows how to break through the noise and sell his snake oil to the rubes.

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  32. Anonymous2:46 AM

    "PilotDumbass"


    Who makes more money than all of the hillbillies here combined and is smart enough to not be a Republican.

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  33. Quote Anonymous 12:27:

    "Only blacks vote 95%+ for one party.

    Only blacks are that racist."


    To give him his due, when he wrote it, in his head, it probably made sense.

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  34. Anonymous7:02 AM


    "Then came the signing of the Civil Rights Act by the Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson — although he wasn’t perfect on the issue of race, and the bill passed partly because of Republican support."

    Partly?

    The Democratic Party voted almost lock-step against the Civil Rights Act.

    "He wanted the federal government out of the states’ business."

    So did the Founders: it is called Federalism.

    "That was in part because the Republican brand was already tarnished among blacks and in part because the Nixon campaign used the “Southern strategy” to try to capitalize on racist white flight from the Democratic Party as more blacks moved into it."

    No. It was because Johnson bought the Black vote with massive welfare payments.

    "For years the Republicans have been the party of fear, ignorance and divisiveness. All you have to do is look around to see what it has done..."

    Yes, of course. But, may I ask, what party put out all the racially-charged advertising in this past election? Oh, my, it was the Democratic Party. (Puts a lie to that quote, doest it not?)

    "This wasn’t a perfect or complete measure of racial bias, but more a measure of flagrant bias — the opinions of people aware of their biases and willing to confess them on a survey."

    Ok. So it is flagrant bias the a majority of YT supports the Republic Party, but it is not at all bias that 95%+ of Blacks support the Democratic Party. Curious interpretation of bias/

    "There are white racists in both parties." Then I suppose that there are no Black racists in either party....I guess that makes FN an Independent.

    The rest of this particular post is garbage....

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  35. So then troll only notices when blacks vote overwhelmingly for one party.Nothing about whites voting as a block in the South?

    Yep, the troll stupid is strong.

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  36. teh stupid is really stupid10:05 AM

    Anonymous teh stupid said...
    "Yep, the democrats hatred of whites is a factor."

    Dumbest comment of the century!
    The stoooopid is strong in this one.


    Teh stupid is the dumbest poster to ever call someone stupid!!!!

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  37. FN copied/pasted...
    “So there’s a partisan gap, although not as large of one as some political commentators might assert. There are white racists in both parties. By most questions, they represent a minority of white voters in both parties. They probably represent a slightly larger minority of white Republicans than white Democrats.”


    "Probably," codespeak for a white democrat citing facts when he couldn't find the facts to fit his agenda.


    the bill passed partly because of Republican support.

    you mean with a little help from democrats.

    More Republicans voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act than Democrats
    ....
    broke down the vote, showing that more than 80% of Republicans in both houses voted in favor of the bill, compared with more than 60% of Democrats.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/10/politics/civil-rights-act-interesting-facts/


    And your article left out the whole democrat filibuster of the civil rights act. Interesting.

    I wonder if black democrats knowing that al gore was raised on a plantation in the south and his daddy had a serious "color arousal" problem cost him a few votes?

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  38. Albert Trollstein10:40 AM

    field negro said...

    So then troll only notices when blacks vote overwhelmingly for one party.Nothing about whites voting as a block in the South?
    ----

    All balcks everywhere vote 95%+ for one party.

    Some whites in some states vote in the high 80's for one party.

    See the difference?

    Only blacks are that uniformly racist.

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  39. According to Obama's DOJ, black voters are the most ill-informed, unaware voters in America.

    This explains why blacks continue to hit themselves in the head with democrat hammers and cry racism cause it hurts.

    The most violent,dangerous places to live in this country are controlled by Democrats and have majority black populations.

    The poorest places in this country have majority black populations and are controlled by Democrats.

    The most corrupt places in this country have majority black populations and are controlled by Democrats.


    The places with the worst school systems have majority black populations and are controlled by Democrats.

    The places with the most corrupt police departments have majority black populations and run by Democrats.


    Let's not forget Detroit. Which is ran by Democrats.

    Six years into the Obama presidency-

    Black unemployment, poverty, homelessness all up.

    Black incomes are down.

    And yet blacks give Obama an over 90% approval rating and blacks overwhelming vote Democrat.

    Blacks have become what Malcolm X feared-chumps of the Democrat party.

    So no one is to blame more for the plight of blacks in America than blacks themselves.







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  40. Anonymous10:48 AM

    The Civil Rights Act would have pasted years earlier if not for LBJ leading the fight against it.

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  41. teh stupid is really stupid in this one10:53 AM

    PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

    I'm not a Dem


    Who was the last Republican or Independent you voted for?

    That's right. You're not a Democrat. You just voted Democrat every election.



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  42. Jonathan Gruber

    The news embargo of the architect of Obamacare.

    Jonathan Gruber Admiting Obama Was In the Room When Cadillac Tax Lie Was Created
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_e00NjQvFM


    I wonder why Obama had to intentionally lie to the CBO and the "stupid americans" to pass his healthcare act?

    I remember the old days when democrats were against presidents lying.

    FN knows what happens in court once a witness is proven to be a liar, will he hold his party's president to the same standard?
    Strange how little interest the democrat media has in reporting this story.

    Obviously, reporting the truth hurts Obama and democrats so mums the word.


    Politics in 2014 is like sport fans and their team.
    It's all about "winning" at any cost.

    FN believes his team "won" by lying about Obamacare.


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  43. field negro said...
    So then troll only notices when blacks vote overwhelmingly for one party.Nothing about whites voting as a block in the South?


    Difference is?

    Blacks overwhelming vote Democrat because of race. Which is why Democrats campaign on lynching, slavery, the kkk and jim crow.

    Whites overwhelming vote Republican because of economics.

    Which is why the second Republican wave under president Obama happen.


    Stein is right about one thing.

    Democrats play identity politics.

    Obama has divided America by race ,class and religion.


    That will be Obama's legacy.


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  44. Kinky, that's your story and you are sticking to
    it.

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  45. señor kinky said...
    Blacks overwhelming vote Democrat because of race. Which is why Democrats campaign on lynching, slavery, the kkk and jim crow.


    Democrats couldn't run on all the lies from Obama and his administration.

    Democrats couldn't run on the widening of the gap between the rich and poor.

    Democrats couldn't run on how poor people are doing under the Obama administration.

    Democrats couldn't run on record number of people on welfare.

    Democrats couldn't run on lowering the unemployment rate when everyone knows unemployment dropped because of record number of people giving up looking for work.

    Democrats couldn't run on record number of people on food stamps.

    Democrats couldn't run on their corporate sponsors enjoying record profits.


    What else could the democrats do besides instill fear about lynchings in the people they care about?


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  46. Firedoglake, a progressive blog acknowledges the lying.

    Trying to pretend Gruber had no part in crafting Obamacare or that you have never heard of him despite considerable evidence to the contrary does sound like someone who is relying on a lack of transparency and the stupidity of the American voter – doesn’t it?
    http://news.firedoglake.com/2014/11/13/nancy-pelosi-claims-not-to-know-who-jonathan-gruber-is-cited-him-on-her-website-in-09/


    Surprise Surprise, a progressive blog (and the comments) that don't appreciate being repeatedly lied to by the democrats they voted for.

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  47. But but....democrats could run on a lower deficit, low unemployment, low gas prices, affordable health care, Dow way up (my broker thanks them ), no major terrorist attacks, American troops not dying in Iraq, major climate change agreement with the Chinese....I could go on, but u see how this works. They could spin, too.

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  48. Reality1:24 PM

    Except every single one of those claims is complete bullshit.

    Gotta plan B, Mr. Shill?

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  49. Anonymous1:27 PM

    Blogger field negro said...
    So then troll only notices when blacks vote overwhelmingly for one party.Nothing about whites voting as a block in the South?

    Yep, the troll stupid is strong.

    8:27 AM
    ----------------
    Whites voting as a block in the South is 'different' from 95% of Blacks voting for Obama. You see, Whites vote for their common good. Blacks vote for their common loss.

    You STILL don't get it, do you?

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  50. Reality1:40 PM

    lower deficit

    Lower than the astronomical deficits earlier in the administration, when they had a democratic congress, but still historically insane.

    low unemployment

    You mean low fake unemployment numbers created by removing tens of millions of people from the workforce. Actual employment percentage is at record lows.

    low gas prices

    Resulting from the shale boom Obama tried to kill. And gas prices are still higher than under Bush.

    affordable health care

    Ha!

    Dow way up (my broker thanks them)

    So does the 1%

    no major terrorist attacks

    Nidal Hasan disagrees.

    American troops not dying in Iraq

    The Iraq war was ended on the timetable Bush negotiated with the Iraqis, and more troops have died in Afghanistan under Obama's watch than Bush's.

    major climate change agreement with the Chinese

    An 'agreement' whereby we promise to cripple our economy even more severely by 2025, and the Chinese say they'll start thinking about doing something maybe in 2030. Brilliant bit of negotiation there!

    There is nothing this administration can point to as a policy success, unless it was to weaken the country economically, militarily, and spiritually. In that, they have been very successful.

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  51. Anonymous1:49 PM

    IF can convince Elizabeth Warren to run in 2016, not only will she be the leading Democratic candidate, she will be the next President. I am praying she will change her mind and run:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2014/11/elizabeth-warren-liberal-donors-112888.html

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  52. Warren 2016!1:54 PM

    Because eight years of progressive disaster is not enough!

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  53. Anonymous2:13 PM

    Obama is not progressive. Furthermore, the GOP has obstructed EVERYTHING.

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  54. field negro said...
    But but....democrats could run


    Could have, should have, but didn't.

    For some reason democrat politicians didn't think democrat voters would believe it.


    lower deficit
    low unemployment


    I debunked these days ago.
    Do you need those left-wing links again to refresh your memory? :)


    low gas prices

    Couldn't run on this. Increased oil production in America (lowering the price) is against the environmental special interest groups. Why do you think obama and the democrat controlled senate put off voting on the keystone pipeline for all these years?


    affordable health care

    Which lie should I start with?
    1. You can keep your doctor
    2. lower the cost $2,500
    3. Grubers admission of lies to the CBO and "stupid people."


    Dow way up

    The rich getting richer at record levels.
    Works great at the obama bevery hills $38,000 a plate fundraisers, not a vote getter when talking to the middle class or poor.


    no major terrorist attacks

    Like there were under clinton and bush.
    There was Benghazi, no matter if you believed the movie caused it or not, we now know it was a terrorist attack on 9/11.
    Remember the Obama Romney debate when the democrat moderator Candy Crowley had to jump in and lie that Obama did call it an act of terror? Why would she lie if she thought people believed the movie explanation?


    American troops not dying in Iraq

    No mention of afghanistan?
    No surprise considering...
    The Death Toll Does Not Lie -- Afghanistan Is Obama's War
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/by-us-deaths-as-of-today_b_683441.html

    And now that Obama is putting troops back into iraq, that is bound to change.


    major climate change agreement with the Chinese

    The china economy is growing at record pace, and you believe china is going to put the brakes on that to honor Obama's major agreement for his legacy?
    Reminds me of that Clinton treaty with n korea and the billions of taxpayer $$.


    They could spin, too.

    They didn't, they made the choice to run on scaring black people about upcoming lynchings.

    Strange that democrats internal polling said scaring black people would get more votes than "spinning" on your list of things


    As an educated Black Man, do you honestly believe that republicans will bring back lynchings?


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  55. Anonymous2:47 PM

    "As an educated Black Man, do you honestly believe that republicans will bring back lynchings?"

    nope, nor will environmental regulations lead to One World Order and nazi style death/re-education camps. Nor does the ACA create death panels, nor will Eric Holder take over using the New Black Panther Party.

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  56. Kinky is a racist!2:51 PM

    "Blacks overwhelming vote Democrat because of race."

    All of us? You take a poll or something or do you just know this Kinky? Please explain.

    "Whites overwhelming vote Republican because of economics."

    Really? None vote gop because of religion or "family values"? Once again how do you know this or are you just going by the racist notion that blah people are just ignorant emotional creatures while whites are rational and calculated? Hmmmm, sounds kind of like a racist over simplification but I could be wrong.

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  57. Anonymous3:05 PM

    The Twosqueegee Airman said...

    "Hmmmm, sounds kind of like a racist over simplification but I could be wrong."
    ----

    You are.

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  58. You got the right one baby3:25 PM

    "You are."

    I don't think so.

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  59. CNN?

    Obamacare architect in 6th video: 'Mislabeling' helped us get rid of tax breaks
    ...
    "It turns out politically it's really hard to get rid of," Gruber said. "And the only way we could get rid of it was first by mislabeling it, calling it a tax on insurance plans rather than a tax on people when we all know it's a tax on people who hold those insurance plans."


    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/14/politics/gruber-update-friday-white-house-obamacare/index.html


    Didn't Obama promise not to raise taxes on the middle class?

    Another Obama lie debunked.


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  60. Bill said...

    "It turns out politically it's really hard to get rid of," Gruber said. "And the only way we could get rid of it was first by mislabeling it, calling it a tax on insurance plans rather than a tax on people when we all know it's a tax on people who hold those insurance plans."
    ---

    McCain proposed doing just that in the 2008 election. His idea was that we would get rid of this exemption and instead give people an additional tax credit valued at the average cost of health insurance. Thus, people would be held harmless by the change, but we'd get rid of this government-made distortion in how employers pay their employees.

    Barack Obama, get this, demagogued that plan and accused McCain of wanting to increase taxes on people.

    And meanwhile, he schemed to achieve the same thing, except without that part about giving people an additional tax credit which would offset increased taxes, and, get this, without telling people he was getting rid of the tax exemption.

    Once again -- subverting democracy by completely destroying the concept of Consent of the Governed.

    The Worst. President. Ever.

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  61. "Once again -- subverting democracy by completely destroying the concept of Consent of the Governed."

    Fuck right off.

    A government's job is to lead the people, not to be lead by them.

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  62. Anonymous5:44 PM


    "Nothing about whites voting as a block in the South?"

    If ignorance is bliss, FN is in his happy place.

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  63. Anonymous6:00 PM

    The Purple Cow said...

    A government's job is to lead the people, not to be lead by them.
    ----

    No, a representative government's job is execute the will of the people, not to rule by deception. Lying to them about the intent and consequences of policy is the kind of leading a criminal dictatorship does.

    I can't wait until we start hanging communists. I hope you don't have to wait too long for your turn.

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  64. "No, a representative government's job is execute the will of the people, not to rule by deception."

    Nonsense.

    **
    "I can't wait until we start hanging communists. I hope you don't have to wait too long for your turn."

    Give it a rest, needledick. Save your faux macho rhetoric for your parole officer.

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  65. Anonymous6:33 PM


    So, Purple Cow, expand upon your manifest stupidity: is it the job of representative government to rule by deception?

    Representative Government: serving to represent; representing.

    Represent: to act for or in behalf of (a constituency, state, etc.) by deputed right in exercising a voice in legislation or government.

    Deception: a misleading falsehood; the act of deceiving.

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  66. Ace, one day your grandchildren will be reading about how the Kenyan saved their country from Tea Party rule.

    PC, the parole department has turned him over for mental health evaluation.

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  67. Anonymous6:56 PM

    Brother Field, you are such a dreamer. You know we are in bad shape when it comes to Obama.

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  68. Limpbaugh7:21 PM

    People are people. There are white racists and black racists. The difference is that blacks are an oppressed minority. They have reason to vote against the conservative racism that targets them whether they are conservative and racist themselves or not. Whites are the majority and they can vote for racism or against it. There are some people who are conservative without being racist, but being conservative about fiscal issues often equates to a racist obsession about too much money going to minorities. A liberal is more likely to worry about too much money going to the 1%. I know that there are more white racist conservatives than white racist liberals. And that is true for degrees of racism, how racist people are. I can see it every day. Republicans were the liberals of Lincoln's time and the parties switched roles. Lincoln and LBJ were much less racist than the alternatives.

    Robert D. Putnam of Harvard and David E. Campbell of Notre Dame did a study of who joined the Tea Party. They used a survey of more than 3,000 people taken before the Tea Party started. After the Tea Party started they went back and questioned the people again. The Tea Party wasn't made up of Democrats, Independents, and Republicans, as they like to claim. The studies showed that the people who joined the Tea Party were the most conservative and most racist Republicans before the Tea Party began. Not all Republicans joined the Tea Party.

    Out of 24 categories, Tea Party people ranked blacks and Mexicans as the ones they liked the least. Their most common answer for why they didn't like Obama was, "I don't know, I just don't like him." The studies also supported the case that government spending was less important to them than protesting that the president is black.


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  69. Anonymous7:29 PM

    Is this the same Robert D. Putnam who studied and wrote about the negative impact of diversity?

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  70. "So, Purple Cow, expand upon your manifest stupidity: is it the job of representative government to rule by deception?"

    It is the job of representative government to get the job done.

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  71. Anonymous7:32 PM


    "Robert D. Putnam of Harvard and David E. Campbell of Notre Dame did a study of who joined the Tea Party."

    Reference please (a link, perhaps).

    "The studies showed that the people who joined the Tea Party were the most conservative and most racist Republicans before the Tea Party began."

    Ibid.

    "The studies also supported the case that government spending was less important to them than protesting that the president is black."

    Ibid.

    P.S. Ibid: In the same place (used when citing a reference).

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  72. Anonymous7:34 PM


    "It is the job of representative government to get the job done."

    That is not an answer to the question.

    And the question is: [is] it the job of representative government to rule by deception?

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  73. teh stupid is really stupid in this one7:40 PM

    Goober doesn't link because the study was done by leftists for a leftwing media source.

    It was discredited and the "study" went nowhere.

    These are the same libs who did a diversity study-when the results didn't reinforce their liberal beliefs , they buried it.

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  74. Who is ruling by "deception" ?
    Don't u people have FOX VIEWS to make sure that doesn't happen?

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  75. Anonymous8:09 PM


    Well, I do suppose then, FN, you are unaware of the recent revelations put forward by MIT Economist Jonathan Gruber.

    Perhaps using google (an Internet search engine....a functionality that delivers information to the user....try it...www.google.com) you may be able to determine those that are ruling by deception.

    But, then again, given your un-curious nature, you would probably suffer incurable intellectual whiplash.

    P.S. Yes, I am giving you credit for having an intellect....as stunted as it may be.

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  76. field negro said...
    Who is ruling by "deception" ?
    Don't u people have FOX VIEWS to make sure that doesn't happen?


    If this is for me...

    Problems reading the small screen on your old cellphone? I've noticed you've blamed a lot of misspellings on autocorrect, if you upgraded your phone you wouldn't be stuck with version1 of autocorrect AND could read the screen a little better. Just a thought.

    I mentioned it was from CNN in case someone skipped over the link that included cnn.com.

    Here it is again...

    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/14/politics/gruber-update-friday-white-house-obamacare/index.html


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  77. Kinky is a racist!1:05 AM

    "Out of 24 categories, Tea Party people ranked blacks and Mexicans as the ones they liked the least. Their most common answer for why they didn't like Obama was, "I don't know, I just don't like him." The studies also supported the case that government spending was less important to them than protesting that the president is black."

    That can't be because according to Kinky white people vote only for economic reasons while blah people are ignorant and impulsive and vote because they are racist. Prove your point Limpy!

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  78. Anon above, thanks for confirming what I always believed.

    To the wingnut@8:09, the MIT professor is right. He just needs to put a filter on his mouth at times. Americans can't handle the truth.

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  79. field negro said...
    To the wingnut@8:09, the MIT professor is right. He just needs to put a filter on his mouth at times. Americans can't handle the truth.


    So you believe it was okay for bush to lie?

    Or you only embrace lies from demcorats?

    Which explains your love for Obama.





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  80. "People died when Bush lied."
    Lies to save your life? Eh.......

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