The new year isn't officially here yet, but I already have some things that I am hoping and wishing for in 2011:
I am hoping that governor Neil Abercombie of Hawaii will be successful in quieting these "birther" nut cases here in A-merry-ca, forever. Good luck with that Gov.; the mind of the wingnut does not work like us normal folks.
I am hoping that A-merry-cans will stop obsessing over "celebrities" in our culture and start paying more attention to the people who really matter in our society. We can start with folks like our parents, youth coaches, and teachers.
I am hoping that "7" will find true redemption on the football field, and that folks will shut up forever about his damn dogs.
And, speaking of Vick; here is hoping that wingnuts like Tucker Carlson find it in their Christian hearts to forgive.
"Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson followed the company's interesting tradition the other day by making one of the most distasteful and egregious comments in recent media history. Filling in for Sean Hannity, Carlson said that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick should have been executed for dogfighting.
"I'm a Christian, I've made mistakes myself, I believe fervently in second chances," Carlson said. "But Michael Vick killed dogs, and he did in a heartless and cruel way. And I think, personally, he should've been executed for that. He wasn't, but the idea that the President of the United States would be getting behind someone who murdered dogs? Kind of beyond the pale."
I am hoping that governor Neil Abercombie of Hawaii will be successful in quieting these "birther" nut cases here in A-merry-ca, forever. Good luck with that Gov.; the mind of the wingnut does not work like us normal folks.
I am hoping that A-merry-cans will stop obsessing over "celebrities" in our culture and start paying more attention to the people who really matter in our society. We can start with folks like our parents, youth coaches, and teachers.
I am hoping that "7" will find true redemption on the football field, and that folks will shut up forever about his damn dogs.
And, speaking of Vick; here is hoping that wingnuts like Tucker Carlson find it in their Christian hearts to forgive.
"Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson followed the company's interesting tradition the other day by making one of the most distasteful and egregious comments in recent media history. Filling in for Sean Hannity, Carlson said that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick should have been executed for dogfighting.
"I'm a Christian, I've made mistakes myself, I believe fervently in second chances," Carlson said. "But Michael Vick killed dogs, and he did in a heartless and cruel way. And I think, personally, he should've been executed for that. He wasn't, but the idea that the President of the United States would be getting behind someone who murdered dogs? Kind of beyond the pale."
-Yes, and the idea that someone should be "executed" for killing a f&*^%$g dog is not?-
I am hoping that Ms. Thing gives black folks some shine on her new network. I mean how much more Rachael Rays and Doctor Phils can we take?
I am hoping that I am going to hear less of the word insurgents on the nightly news.
I am hoping that the authorities will find Jody Lynn Bennett. (No relation.) Tucker, who is worse? Jody Lynn Bennett, or Michael Vick?
"hand-held video game console and other items were stolen from the coffin of a teenager killed in a car crash on Christmas Day.
Jody Lynn Bennett, 38, of Mentcle, Pennsylvania, grabbed the items from the coffin of 17-year-old Bradley McCombs during a viewing on Monday night at a funeral home 65 miles northeast of Pittsburgh. State police have named the alleged suspect and said they were still searching for him this morning. "
Jody Lynn Bennett, 38, of Mentcle, Pennsylvania, grabbed the items from the coffin of 17-year-old Bradley McCombs during a viewing on Monday night at a funeral home 65 miles northeast of Pittsburgh. State police have named the alleged suspect and said they were still searching for him this morning. "
Oh lawd!!
Finally, I wish that all of you Me-groes would stay out of A-merry-can politics. Charlie, Kwame, Larry, and Sheila; please don't let the door knob hit you where the good lord split you on your way out.
Good luck silencing the birthers. You're right, the wingnut mind is quite special. I agree that we need to treat our teachers better, mom was one for over 40 years, but now with the rise of the TEA partiers and folks like Chris Christie they are being demonized and will take the brunt of spending cuts if Obama and the Dems don't fight for them. I have hope for the new year but the dropping of a ball, a new calendar and a new number at the top won't change much. I'd also like to add getting out of Iraq and Afganistan to the list.
ReplyDeleteNo-body (at least none of the brutha's...and who the fuck else matters)gave a fuck about the dogs then and we don't give a fuck about it today, even if he were to slaughter a few of them right now. WE DON"T GIVE A DAMN !
ReplyDeleteThawickedone is scary and I truly hope represents a small minority!
ReplyDeleteDon't speak for all the "bruthas".
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/latest_right-wing_freak-out_obama_wants_to_give_ma.php
ReplyDeleteNope there is no hope for the future. And to this these assclowns are going to run the house next year. Now why didn't I buy property in Jamaica while I was there?
thanks for the info Field I hadn't heard about Tucker Carlsons outburst. I suspect he is being childish. Surely he wasn't serious but must have done this for attention and ratings. Controversy sells and garners attention these days. I think he is best ignored.
ReplyDeleteBut let me say that if he is indeed a Christian he has things backwards. Nowhere in the scriptures does it suggest that animals are on par with human beings. Killing an animal is not the same as killing a human being, Christianity and Judaism attest to this.
If he is a Christian he is a poor one because he has engaged in gossip,backbiting, jealousy and slander all in one setting and in a very public way.
What he should be outraged about is the real killing of human beings in the Middle East, Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan for money and power.
If Carlson thinks his behavior and thinking is in anyway Christian I think he is in for a very big dissapointment. Lets just say he isn't setting himself up for a cool reception.
I hope in the new year is taht folks who call themselves 'progressive' would spend less time blogging (myself included) and more time engaging our community, rallying our neighbors to care about something other than their own greed and tackling everyday problems in real, practical and tangible ways. Also hope that we learn to talk to conservatives and not talk at them.
ReplyDeleteI hope that working class Tea party folks and other conservatives wake up and realize that liberals and minorities are not their enemy and that the biggest cause of our pain is a twisted political economy that places wealth of the few over the needs and freedoms of the many.
If those two things happen - the rest of our political and economic problems will take care of themselves.
And on a personal note, I hope to be out of debt so can start the next phase of my life. I also hope to be in a reputable business school and engaged by this time next year.
"Thawickedone is scary and I truly hope represents a small minority!
ReplyDeleteDon't speak for all the "bruthas"."
Unfortunately, he speaks for quite a few. Even Field has said that he doesn't give a damn about dogs.
Thawickedone-"No-body (at least none of the brutha's...and who the fuck else matters)gave a fuck about the dogs then and we don't give a fuck about it today, even if he were to slaughter a few of them right now. WE DON"T GIVE A DAMN !"
ReplyDeleteAmerica knows this. How could you care when you don't care about yourselves, including your women and children?
ThaWicked-Evilone is also an ignorantone. It's amazing that someone like him exists. But then again, what can you expect from the ghetto?
ReplyDeleteAll the outrage about the puppies while munching on a burger. Have any of the outraged animal lovers visited a slaughterhouse lately? Wearing a leather belt or shoes? Ok hypocrits STFU. I know cows aren't as cute as puppies but damn give us all a break. Mike served his time, this ain't the 1920's when ya'll could just burn the whole town down and kill us all cause you're pissed.
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ReplyDeleteSorry bout that.
TeaBaggers want revenge on all them teachers. Who really cares 'bout spelling and readin' and matherating? Sarey done good without all that smarts...
ReplyDeleteYou too could be her...just run for office for a small town...make life hell for those who disagree or are ambivalent. Get voters from churches to vote early and oftern (all's fair when combaterating Satan!) Run for office against TeaBaggers...and stay silent about your own views. Get picked for MILFy goodness by a geezer who need to shore up the stoopid vote.
PilotX...sounds like Carlson wants a return to 'strange fruits'. So, I have to agree with you. bush caused the deaths of millions of humans...why isn't Carlson all weepy over that?
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PilotX what about the questions asked you about Buddhists, vegetarians, mosquitoes and doing harm to another animal?
ReplyDeleteWere the questions too hard for you or were you just spouting off your usual bm bs?
LOL. Anon, We all know the answer to your last question.lol
ReplyDeleteI think executing Vick is way extreme, but he deserves all the flack he gets. Cold hearted bastard.
ReplyDeleteAnon9:38p-don't hold your breath on PilotX. He doesn't answer straight forward questions. they shake him up.
ReplyDeletei predict mv won't last very long in the nfl before he starts collecting dogs for fighting. but what does it matter? as field, thawickedone and pilotx has mentioned, "they are just dogs." by their thinking, it's ok to electrocute, drown, or hang dops for their weird wicked pleasure. and guess what? pilotx claims to be a buddhist.
ReplyDeletethe dalai lama must be very saddened.
Was this Jody Lynn Bennett character on meth or something? I can't think of too many reasons a 38 year old man would steal a dead kid's video games, straight out of the coffin, no less.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, you have this Tucker Carlson twerp calling for Vick to be executed. Even after he's already been punished in the eyes of the law. Then again, you have a whole bunch of folk just hankerin' to lynch a big, strappin' Nigger. Strange fruit, indeed.
I remember when ol' Tucker was working for CNN. He got bounced a bit after his run-in with Jon Stewart and milled around MSNBC for a while.
People aren't gonna stop obsessing....or better yet, worshipping celebs any time soon. Many live their lives vicariously through them. Others hold them up as examples of where they should be. And you have those who just like dipping into other people's shit. Dipping into the shit of celebs via tabloids and paparazzi saves them the trouble of having to dip into other people's shit in real life. At least in most cases.
Good luck to the new governor of Hawaii. It's gonna be an uphill battle trying to dissuade the birthers from their nonsense.
"i predict mv won't last very long in the nfl before he starts collecting dogs for fighting. but what does it matter? as field, thawickedone and pilotx has mentioned, "they are just dogs." by their thinking, it's ok to electrocute, drown, or hang dops for their weird wicked pleasure. and guess what? pilotx claims to be a buddhist."
ReplyDeleteSo, the phrase "they are just dogs" = the condoning of electrocuting, drowning, and hanging dogs for some sort of perverse kicks. Nice leap of logic, that one.
No one around here condones animal abuse. We just don't tolerate animal abuse being used as a pretext for people unleashing their inner racist asshole.
It's a bit jarring to see "conservative-minded" folk give a major fuck about Vick's dogfighting and not really give much of one about this. Or this. I'm telling you, folks -- color-aroused ideation, emotion and behavior is a hell of a thing.
Mack Lyons, "It's a bit jarring to see "conservative-minded" folk give a major fuck about Vick's dogfighting and not really give much of one about this. Or this. I'm telling you, folks -- color-aroused ideation, emotion and behavior is a hell of a thing."
ReplyDeleteYou FN folks refuse to NAME what Vick has done to dogs: ELECTROCUTED, DROWNED, AND HUNG THEM! That is, he murdered them. But you bm keep talking about dogfighting. AGAIN....while dogfighting is bad enough, Vick ELECTROCUTED, DROWNED AND HUNG THEM. Do you get it? that's what mostly everyone is outraged about, except folks like you and Kwansaa-Buddhist PilotX of course.
I know you and PilotX and other bm on this blog want to MINIMIZE the lives of dogs and the horrific things MV did to those dogs, but can you GRASP what Vick did to those dogs?
Or, maybe you think like Field: "they are just dogs." Believe it or not, dogs value and care about their lives just as much as you do. In other words, they don't want to lose their lives like you don't want to lose yours.
You folks are undoubtedly very poor in spirit.
Mack, those videos of humans killing defenseless dogs will be tracked down and prosecuted. NO ONE has the right to do that to innocent dogs.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the videos. It gives everyone how much more horrific Michael Vick was toward dogs. The man is beyond bestial. Thanks again. I am thinking maybe Vick should have done more time for the heinous murders he committed..thanks Mack.
"All the outrage about the puppies while munching on a burger. Have any of the outraged animal lovers visited a slaughterhouse lately? Wearing a leather belt or shoes? Ok hypocrits STFU. I know cows aren't as cute as puppies but damn give us all a break. "
ReplyDeletePilotX, if you do buy property in Jamaica,please consider Mandeville. We can be neighbors. :)
Anon. 11:05 PM, this is not the wild wild west. We do not execute people for killing animals. (Not even black men)
La~Coincidental, I think most progressive bloggers (at least the ones I know) are already doing some good things in their communities. But I get your point, we could always do more.
ReplyDeleteWhat is it with the racist idiots PilotXstacy and Mack Lying? Nobody said anything about Vick being Black except YOU. People don;t like him not because he is BLACK like you keep insisting. Its because he is a weak vile man who tortures helpless and defenseless animals.
ReplyDeleteI never cease to be amazed by BM like you who are so , so, fucking weak and have no pride. Everything and I mean everything is excused by someone elses made up racism. Get a fuckin grip you little pussies and start bein men. The only difference there would be if Vick was white is that YOU would join everyone saying negative things about what he has done. But instead he is Black and the OJ brutha done did his time syndrome kicks in. Pathetic.
Riddle me this O Field, why in the world does some idiot feel the need to be anonymous on the internet? We are all anonymous until we decide not to be. That is unless he's too stupid to figure out how to pick out his own fake name. I know buttwipe, just use the word verification prompt.
ReplyDeleteWhat a troo a hole.
Redemption for Mr. Vick is fine and dandy, as long as it does not come in the playoffs against the Falcons.
ReplyDeleteWhen #7 fell, he took the city of Atlanta with him. The Falcons have a new quarterback, and have done well this year. There was little choice but to give the dogfighter a chance elsewhere, and to his credit, he has made something out of his second chance.
If the Eagles play anyone else in the post season, I will wish them well. If they play the Falcons, I hope they suffer the fate of those poor dogs.
Naw, field - we don't execute even black men for killing dogs, but anyone with any decency at least struggles a little with the fact that Vick beat, hung, and electrocuted the animals. Is having a conscience about defenseless animals being tortured reason enough now for you to label someone as a house negro? I hope the brother's change is real, and I hope he prospers, but damn! Don't kneejerk to jump on the "either you've with us or against us" tip.
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ReplyDelete"white American culture has such a fucked up view on animals, especially dogs and cats. we think of them as people now. it's disgusting."
ReplyDeleteNo one wants to admit it, but this is the whole heart of why people, largely White people, seem so....distraught when it comes to the issue of animal abuse. And it's why people wouldn't mind paying money to see Vick get hanged or electrocuted or put under the needle for animal cruelty.
For a lot of Americans, pets like dogs and cats are essentially surrogate children. You'd be absolutely horrified if you saw children being beaten, electrocuted adn hung upside down and so forth. For these folks, treating dogs in the same manner has the same exact effect, perhaps even more.
Meanwhile, other cultures treat dogs as either a nuisance, an abomination (some Muslim sects) or a delicacy (China and other Asian nations). I'm not saying that people here don't care about animals or animal cruelty, just that expecting us to have the same doe-eyed adoration of animals that the rest of mainstream America shares is a bit much.
"Is having a conscience about defenseless animals being tortured reason enough now for you to label someone as a house negro?"
Does having a conscience about defenseless animals justify executing the human beings who bring harm to them?
Does it justify raising up a lynch mob to execute a man who was already tried, sentenced and imprisoned for his crime against animals?
What kind of message will be sent if people were allowed to hound this man out of his livelihood and into relative obscurity as an O.J. Simpson-esque figure? Hard to imagine that a Black man who allegedly killed two White people (and essentially got away with it) is getting LESS flack right now than a Black man who involved himself into the dogfighting scene.
Which brings me to this:
"You FN folks refuse to NAME what Vick has done to dogs: ELECTROCUTED, DROWNED, AND HUNG THEM! That is, he murdered them. But you bm keep talking about dogfighting. AGAIN....while dogfighting is bad enough, Vick ELECTROCUTED, DROWNED AND HUNG THEM. Do you get it? that's what mostly everyone is outraged about, except folks like you and Kwansaa-Buddhist PilotX of course. "
Considering how using the phrase "ELECTROCUTED, DROWNED, AND HUNG THEM" over and over is designed to get people to view Vick's actions purely through an emotional prism rather than a rational one, I don't think we need to NAME what he's done, since you're doing a fabulous job of that on your own.
So yeah, I'll continue to use the terms "dogfighting" and "animal cruelty", since those are the technical terms for what Vick was involved in, charged with and sentenced for. Now, if you are willing to share photos and video of Vick personally ELECTROCUTING, DROWNING, AND HANGING dogs, then be my guest.
"Or, maybe you think like Field: "they are just dogs." Believe it or not, dogs value and care about their lives just as much as you do. In other words, they don't want to lose their lives like you don't want to lose yours. "
Which suggests that dogs have the same sort of cognative capacity for intellegent thought and empathy that human beings possess. Domesticated dogs come close to that. Their feral counterparts are only thinking of food, reproducing and survival.
"So yeah, I'll continue to use the terms "dogfighting" and "animal cruelty", since those are the technical terms for what Vick was involved in, charged with and sentenced for."
ReplyDeleteScratch that. He was charged with one count of "conspiracy":
NFL star Michael Vick formally pleaded guilty to one felony count of conspiracy Monday (August 27). He also accepted a deal with the federal government in hopes of a lenient sentence based on the charges stemming from his arrest for heading an illegal dogfighting operation.
Vick, 27, admitted in his plea that he funded Bad Newz Kennel and the gambling associated with the operation, and that he was part of the enterprise responsible for killing dogs that underperformed or were not fit to participate in fights.
In his plea, Vick did not admit to personally killing dogs or gambling on individual fights, although in legal papers filed last week, he admitted to participating in the killing of dogs that did not fight well.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1567923/20070827/story.jhtml
"Riddle me this O Field, why in the world does some idiot feel the need to be anonymous on the internet? We are all anonymous until we decide not to be. That is unless he's too stupid to figure out how to pick out his own fake name. I know buttwipe, just use the word verification prompt."
ReplyDeleteThe same reason you remain anonymous with "sickupandfed". Stop your whining little boy and say something new instead of the same ol same ol. Are you that empty?
Mack Lyons, "For a lot of Americans, pets like dogs and cats are essentially surrogate children. You'd be absolutely horrified if you saw children being beaten, electrocuted adn hung upside down and so forth. For these folks, treating dogs in the same manner has the same exact effect, perhaps even more."
ReplyDeleteYes, it is true. That IS 'the HEART of the matter.' So you violent sicko folks are headed for a lot of trouble if you think you can kill pets without impunity IN AMERICA. FYI-It's NOT only Whites who love their pets. MANY AMERICANS love their pets as part of their family. You see, dogs and cats help to complete a family...they provide a soothing balm for the aching human heart with unconditional love. But folks like yourself, Field, LAC and Michael Vick enjoy 'killing' the heart. It's been over 50 years since my dog died and I still miss him. You see, pets touch the heart of humans...it's about KINDNESS AND LOVE..THAT IS THE HEART OF THE MATTER. Obviously, love and kindness is something you know little about.
Mack Lyons said, "Meanwhile, other cultures treat dogs as either a nuisance, an abomination (some Muslim sects) or a delicacy (China and other Asian nations). I'm not saying that people here don't care about animals or animal cruelty, just that expecting us to have the same doe-eyed adoration of animals that the rest of mainstream America shares is a bit much."
Mack, why not move to the Middle East or China where your views and rationale will be shared? This is America. Americans love their pets and have no intention of becoming like a Muslim society. Surely even a light-brained half-human like you can figure that out? So quit using other cultures to justify Vick's wicked enjoyment of electrocuting, drowning and hanging dogs.
I am hoping the new incoming Congress will pass a law that protects pets from wretched murderers like Michael Vick and yourself. I am grateful to Obama for reminding America about the nature and character of #7, your hero--a sick heartless person.
And stop talking as if you know MOST Blacks agree with you. I AM BLACK, and I sure as hell don't think like you, Vick or Field.
Mack Lyons, "Considering how using the phrase "ELECTROCUTED, DROWNED, AND HUNG THEM" over and over is designed to get people to view Vick's actions purely through an emotional prism rather than a rational one, I don't think we need to NAME what he's done, since you're doing a fabulous job of that on your own."
ReplyDeleteWhat Vick did DOES touch human emotions. Afterall, feelings are what makes humans human beings. Get it? And I WILL continue to remind people what this thugish wretched stupid man did..how he created a 'hell' for defenseless vulnerable dogs.
Field, how stupid are your anon trolls? How do they get "I DON'T CONDONE THE KILLING OF ANY SENTIENT BEING" confused with condones the killing of dogs? Amazing lack of reading comprehension. I don't and never have stated that I am a Buddhist but I do dig some of their philosophy. For all those outraged atthe killing of dogs go to a slaughterhouse and let me know how that goes. And for god's sake learn how to read people, the stupid is too overwhelming.
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ReplyDeleteTucker Carlson is another one of these true, proud, flag waving Christian Americans who speak like the devil.
Question to all the Annons- were you as outraged over Big Ben raping your women as you are over MV kiling dogs? A married Farve- who's wife by the way battled cancer and is harrassing reporters... sending his jank via e-mail.. How about this one- were you as outraged when Scott Peterson cut up his wife and unborn baby?... Get a life. Period. Stop hating on this man and his millions and the many ppl who have and continue to support him. Crawl back to your cave- Yeah I know about you and your "love for dogs" since histoically w ppl have always been in love with their dogs and you know what I mean. Field and all of my Folk- Happy New Year Peace and Blessings!
ReplyDelete"if i have to explain why to you..." indeed.
ReplyDeletei have been in deep mourning over her loss, FN. it's been damn hard. thank you for being among those who mark her passing.
Mac Lyons answered this question, that I posted...
ReplyDeleteDoes having a conscience about defenseless animals justify executing the human beings who bring harm to them?
With this:
Does it justify raising up a lynch mob to execute a man who was already tried, sentenced and imprisoned for his crime against animals?
Which clearly illustrates the "all or nothing" thinking that limits a lot of us so-called "intellectual" black men. Why in the hell does having a conscience about defenseless animals have to necessarily mean one or the other? Is it possible for you to hold two thoughts in your mind without making them be exclusive of the other? this is exactly why people feel like they HAVE to be liberal or conservative, "field negro" or "house negro", "with us or against us".
As I said, I HOPE VICK PROSPERS (did you read it that time, Mac Lyons?), but to me what he did is something that can't be dismissed as easily as "just killing a dog".
And I ain't white.
HNY Suzan!
ReplyDeletechicago dyke,I can't wait to get home and download some of her songs for my iPod.
PilotX, the Anons have a leader. We should be addressing our concerns about their reading comprehension to him/her.
Let me come at this from a different perspective, dogs descended from wolves, if you believe that sciency evolution stuff. Tucker says nothing about a certain woman that allowed the shooting of these animals from helicopters and even does it herself. She kills animals regularly on tv. Where is the outrage? Why the double standard.
ReplyDeleteThe main reason Carlson took a shot at Vick was because Obama used him as an example of what can happen when a black ex-con is given a second chance by society.
ReplyDeleteBesides Vick has been playing lights out football( minus Tuesday night's game) since he has been back.
BTW, Field what the hell happened to your Eagles Tuesday night? For a moment I thought that the Cowboys OF was subbing for Philly's OF. The Vikings were getting to Vick too many times and Vick looked stiff from the very beginning of the game then looked gimpy.
Anyhoo, the Vikings offense did play damn well especially their black quarterback Webb. If Fraizer gets the head coaching job he should start him next year because Webbb has some serious skills.
Do you nigs have any heroes who aren't criminals? You spend half your lives defending any black criminal that you hear about, then the other half wondering why you've produced such a culture of lowlife scumbags.
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ReplyDeleteI agree that we need to treat our teachers better, mom was one for over 40 years, but now with the rise of the TEA partiers and folks like Chris Christie they are being demonized and will take the brunt of spending cuts if Obama and the Dems don't fight for them.
3:31 PM"
Your mom was a teacher for 40 year? How coincidental! That's right about the time that American Public Education began it's long, slow slide into the crapper!
Yeah....throw more money at the teachers....we see how well THAT'S worked. Half of them can't spell K-A-T.
To all of you who say that Vick "murdered' dogs, technically he did not, since only human beings can be murdered under U.S. law. However, I do think that what Vick did to those dogs was terrible. But he did go to jail for two years and lost all his income. Please, tell me what you animal rights people want. Blood?
ReplyDeleteOh yeah, to the above poster, your heroes like Thomas Jefferson (pedophile) and Bush/Cheyney (mass murderers) aren't much to brag about, so what the hell are you talking about?
I'm a football fan, and you can't tell me that if this was Brady, or one of the Manning brothers, there would be such an outcry. The man paid his dues, but I guess to some people the life of a black man is worth less than dogs.
Also, all those people that wish harm on Vick don't seem to take into account that he has two little girls at home. Do they really want to see their father dead?
i hope that americans participate in democratic process with the same energy we use for sporting events.
ReplyDeletei hope my young sisters will starting loving themselves and be responsible for their bodies.
i hope that when adults give their children pets there's an understanding it’s a life time commitment.
i hope all Field Negroes have a safe and happy 2011.
@snood. I agree with Mack because we have to look at this in context. Fox has a majority white audience. Tucker Carlson is a known bigot and he was guest hosting a show with a large and ignorant audience. As the Jews always say, never forget, that is the same sentiment. There was a time in this country when over-reactions to slight offenses meant bad news to Black men. Not saying this can happen today but knowing the history should have at least given Tucker pause.
ReplyDeleteField, how stupid are your anon trolls? How do they get "I DON'T CONDONE THE KILLING OF ANY SENTIENT BEING" confused with condones the killing of dogs? Amazing lack of reading comprehension.
ReplyDeleteSo to put this in other words. You are claiming others are "stoopid" resulting from your low I.Q and lack of understanding of what sentience is. I shall break it down for you.
You support MV and the killing of dogs because they are not "Sentient" really? Why are they not "Sentient" to you? Do they have a low I.Q.? For they surely are "Sentient" in having the power of perception by the senses.
Perhaps Pilot X, readers don't have a reading comprehension problem, you have an I.Q. problem. One low in "sentience".
A dog will die trying to defend his masters after bonding with them. A dog shows loyalty when given love and respect. A dog can understand the difference between good and bad and alters his behavior- unlike you. A dog can naturally sense danger and attitudes and quickly adjusts in response to those attitudes. A dog doesnt break the laws of the pack and then blame others in the pack.
Maybe your the one who is not "sentient" compared to other humans with your low IQ and inability to do even what a dog does naturally and instinctively.
Maybe those who cannot even display the most basic admirable traits of dogs are the ones who are not "Sentient" after all. You would never see a dog pack defending bad behaviour because the dog involved was brown. They would still kick the dog out of the pack. So again, while dogs are certainly "sentient" in that they have the power of perception given by their senses, you have proven you are not sentient having taken leave of your senses or never having possessed a developed set.
In fact, one can now say that Liberals/progressive/marxist/communists are not "sentient" as they defy logic and all the input their senses provide.
Hmmm. this was too easy. Most BLACK FOLKS heroes are ourselves. We don't promote and worship false gods by turning them into media heroes like you yt's do. Ya'll are always hyping up folks- let's use the Juice as an example... what Black person do you know praised OJ... OJ didn’t check for us until his life was on the line and the majority still weren’t thinking about his sellout azz. But ya’ll were so heartbroken when you found out that your hero may have killed a Becky. Were ya’ll that outraged when he left his wife after their baby daughter drowned in a pool? Hmmm my guess is NOT. See the media didn’t talk about that because his then wife was a Sista. I digress.
ReplyDeleteOur Heroes are US. Everyday Folk. And yes MV represents what we have faced and continue to face good bad or indifferent- we will ALWAYS RISE TO THE TOP. YOU CAN NOT DEFEAT OR DESTROY US. EVERYTIME YOU TRY WE WILL CONTINUE TO RISE. Be clear- none of us approve of what he did to those dogs... But it’s OVER. You can't bring them back. He's served his time - move on... oh yeah and I know you're really mad because old boy will be a Pro Bowl QB alongside the lily white TB... sucks that ALL OF US are laughing all the way to the bank. And just to add insult to injury MV is a natural talent -On November 15, 2010, Vick became the first player in NFL history with 300 passing yards, 50 rushing yards, four passing touchdowns and two rushing touchdowns in a game. Vick also became the first player in NFL history to have three passing touchdowns and two rushing touchdowns in the first half of a game.
Even my unemployed brothas and sistas are thriving with new found entrepreneurial endeavors. Find a new bone to chew-
field negro said...
ReplyDeleteLa~Coincidental, I think most progressive bloggers (at least the ones I know) are already doing some good things in their communities. But I get your point, we could always do more.
Field, your probably right. But I've in been enough progressive circles to know that far too many so-called 'radicals' are either unengaged in things they can actually change or they engage in far too much political theater. Sorry, just venting my general frustration with LA's so-called 'progressive' atmosphere.
As for the whole Obama/Micheal Vick/Tucker Carlson circus - its another example of the kind of ass-backwards 'mighty whitey' thinking that still infects our political discourse. Ozzie Osborne built a career biting the heads off live bats and doves in a concert. And now that drug-addled old loon is a TV Dad. Hypocrisy of the highest order.
Look Obama's overall point was that if the Eagles can risk their franchise on a three time loser like Vick, then cousins Ray-Ray and Shaheed can work the sales desk at your local Macy's. The fact that Carlson can't get that point and that he wants this man crucified for eternity for dog fighting just shows how political tone deaf the Far Right truly is. To claim your a Christian and not understand grace and mercy shows just how 'Christian' he really is. It also shows that many white Americans value dogs over the lives of Black and Brown people. And the sad part is Carlson is one of the saner right wingers.
supah nigga said...
ReplyDeleteDo you nigs have any heroes who aren't criminals? You spend half your lives defending any black criminal that you hear about, then the other half wondering why you've produced such a culture of lowlife scumbags.
I wouldn't call Vick a 'hero', but I certainly would give the man another chance.
And seeing as the right holds up other convicts (Liddy) con men (Delay), repeat adulterers (Gingrich), imbeciles (Palin) and convicted traitors (North), I would say pot and kettle.
"Mac Lyons answered this question, that I posted...
ReplyDeleteDoes having a conscience about defenseless animals justify executing the human beings who bring harm to them?"
Nah, your question was: "Is having a conscience about defenseless animals being tortured reason enough now for you to label someone as a house negro?" That was answered with the above. And FYI, I'm addressing the lynch mob mentality that a lot of people want to engage in against Vick, something that they most likely wouldn't do with anyone else in his shoes -- when they hear that he was sentenced, jailed and served his time, they would LEAVE HIM ALONE. Sure, there would be a few murmurs about how he didn't serve enough time, but there wouldn't be any calls for him being executed after he served his time.
"Which clearly illustrates the "all or nothing" thinking that limits a lot of us so-called "intellectual" black men."
Not that you think much of Black men anyways, which is essentially the gist of your statement.
"Question to all the Annons- were you as outraged over Big Ben raping your women as you are over MV kiling dogs? A married Farve- who's wife by the way battled cancer and is harrassing reporters... sending his jank via e-mail.. How about this one- were you as outraged when Scott Peterson cut up his wife and unborn baby?"
*crickets*
PilotX, "For all those outraged atthe killing of dogs go to a slaughterhouse and let me know how that goes. And for god's sake learn how to read people, the stupid is too overwhelming."
ReplyDeleteNow 'why' would those of us outraged with the killing of dogs want to go to a slaughterhouse to watch animals slaughtered? What's the point, brainyack? Is that suppose to change the minds of dog lovers? I don't think so. It's YOU who is dumb and deaf. It's YOU who claimed to be a vegetarian according to Buddhist principles of eating. Btw, you NEVER responded to the Buddist vegetarian question...WHY? Is it because YOU can't read, or YOU are just a liar?
If you think you can insult people into improving their reading skills, you are wrong. Any good teacher or compassionate Buddhist knows that. Only STUPID people who call others stupid are ignorant jackasses...that's YOU.
BTW, stupid...animals at slaughter houses are killed for food to feed others. That is HOW nature works. But it doesn't ELECTOCUTE, HANG, DROWN AND MURDER JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT.
WHAT WAS VICK'S PURPOSE IN KILLING DOGS? Can you answer that, smarty pants? That's the trouble with people like you who call others stupid...YOU are projecting your own shortcomings.
"PilotX, the Anons have a leader. We should be addressing our concerns about their reading comprehension to him/her."
ReplyDeleteField, you are far too kind to the trolls on this blog. These guys mean nothing but ill will, especially the ones who claim to help "bw" while tearing down "bm" in the most awful ways possible. These people have a cancer, and the cancer is killing this blog.
I wish you luck, sir.
Suzan, "Crawl back to your cave- Yeah I know about you and your "love for dogs" since histoically w ppl have always been in love with their dogs and you know what I mean. Field and all of my Folk- Happy New Year Peace and Blessings!
ReplyDeleteThe Anons you are responding to are Black. Are you so dumb you can't recognize your own people? And you judge us and at the same time wish people Happy New Year? What a joke...YOU need to get a life. For a pet for YOU, please consider a tarantula or a cobra. they both would be a perfect fit for your mean-spiritness.
snood, "Which clearly illustrates the "all or nothing" thinking that limits a lot of us so-called "intellectual" black men. Why in the hell does having a conscience about defenseless animals have to necessarily mean one or the other? Is it possible for you to hold two thoughts in your mind without making them be exclusive of the other? this is exactly why people feel like they HAVE to be liberal or conservative, "field negro" or "house negro", "with us or against us".
ReplyDeleteAs I said, I HOPE VICK PROSPERS (did you read it that time, Mac Lyons?), but to me what he did is something that can't be dismissed as easily as "just killing a dog".
And I ain't white."
I am in total agreement with you and I ain't White, either. Some of the folks on this blog like Mack Lyons and esp. PilotX think in 'Black and White', 'All or Nothing', or 'Either Or' terms and consequently cannot hold two thoughts in those infantile brains of theirs. They continuously shift from MV to some other extreme which has nothing to do with MV's ruthless cruel behavior. It's as though they identify with Vick as someone who hasn't done a damn thing wrong.
What Vick did was sickening and
TEN YEARS in the slammer won't erase from memory what he has done...esp. if you are a dog lover.
And once again, I ain't White.
Roderick, "The main reason Carlson took a shot at Vick was because Obama used him as an example of what can happen when a black ex-con is given a second chance by society."
ReplyDeleteVick was doing just fine after doing time in prison, until Obama stuck his nose into it. Obama needs to stay Presidential and leave people like Vick alone. I am sure Vick would rather Obama said nothing and let his behavior in the future speak for itself. Now, he has a lot of controversial shit to contend with.. and it isn't just Tucker, it's with the press and the American people in general.
He really doesn't need this shit....thanks Mr. President.
supah nigga, "Do you nigs have any heroes who aren't criminals? You spend half your lives defending any black criminal that you hear about, then the other half wondering why you've produced such a culture of lowlife scumbags."
ReplyDeleteMost of the regulars with ID's on this blog- like Mack Lyons and PilotX- and a few bw gravitate to defending and upholding the scum of the earth, as long as they are Black! That's why I am suspect of bm who claim to be a pilot because PilotX thinks like a street pirate who worships and admires those with a total disregard for life.
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/mar2008/2008-03-12-094.asp
ReplyDeleteWell...Sarey is a genteel Lady who has that 'pass for' pale white skin. Vick is as black as 'sin'.
ReplyDeleteBoth are 'sports'..but one requires the use of a helicopter (price point) and the other has long been the diversion of the poor.
Hate to break it to all the FakeAnons...but when you drop off your puppies in rural Pennsyltucky...the farmers don't adopt them. If the dogs are lucky...guns are used. More common, as ammo is expensive, is to club them...run them over...poison them...or send them through farm equipment. At least Vick's dogs had a chance.
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Supah.....,I suspect that u are "supah" something else.
ReplyDeleteHappy New Year...
ReplyDeleteI will return in 2011
Thrasher
supah nigga:
ReplyDelete"You spend half your lives defending any black criminal that you hear about, then the other half wondering why you've produced such a culture of lowlife scumbags."
Is that why the justice department is finding out that many folks in prison who claimed they were innocent, after doing DNA test are being released from prisons and being awarded millions of dollars because it turns out they really were innocent all the time? Does that blindfold Lady Justice wear really represent color stroke?
Tucker Carlson should be executed for wearing that ridiculous bow tie and outdated hairdo of his. While he is at it, it wouldn't hurt if he hired a decent tailor because he looks as if he just stepped off a "country bumpkin" bus.
Forgive me field, I guess Tucker's comment gave me flashbacks of the pre-Civil Rights era when they were lynching black men to satisfy their own sadistic entertainment purposes behind created falsehoods.
No, I am not back. I just dropped by to wish everyone a belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Ozzie Osborne built a career biting the heads off live bats and doves in a concert. And now that drug-addled old loon is a TV Dad. Hypocrisy of the highest order.
ReplyDeleteNote. Ozzy built a career and he did so by creating something people wanted. He organized, put a band of the most talented musicians on the planet. Packaged it and sold it. So he created something. HE supports his kids and doesnt sit on the couch demanding someone else does.
So whos the more admirable person? No one makes any excuse for Ozzy being a pathetic remnant of drug abuse. If he were Black though, you can bet you and others like you would be lieing up a storm to make him a victim of some ficticious white man. When we all know, he is his own victim and at the same time created a HUGE financial musical empire that supports not only his own family, but those of many involved with his business. What have you dont lately? Whose BassAckwards?
MOst people with brains including him know that he is a model of what not to do in terms of drug use.
J said...
ReplyDelete"PilotX, the Anons have a leader. We should be addressing our concerns about their reading comprehension to him/her."
Field, you are far too kind to the trolls on this blog. These guys mean nothing but ill will, especially the ones who claim to help "bw" while tearing down "bm" in the most awful ways possible. These people have a cancer, and the cancer is killing this blog.
I wish you luck, sir.
Translation. Field. These anons are tough. I can't talk the same bullshit and have everyone buy in. They know how to think and challenge my dum ass....waah...waahhh..waahhhhhh. I can't hang with adults....its not fair....waaaah....waaahhhh....wahhhhhh.
Hey Field,
ReplyDeleteWhat happened to your promise to post our cause on your website?
Remember the civil rights case of the 21st Century:
www.Photobucket.com/albums/a288/Psoentgen/
Sincerly wating to hear from Field,
Paul J. Soentgen, III.
Psoentgen@aol.com
(610)-703-9556
Hey Field,
ReplyDeleteDid you forget about:
"The Civil Rights Case of the 21st Century? which your visitors can access at:
www.Photobucket.com/albums/a288/Psoentgen/
Very truly yours,
Paul J. Soentgen, III.
Psoentgen@aol.com
(610)-703-9556
Hey Ass I mean Annon since you KNOW the Annons I'm responding to are Black can you tell me the PowerBall numbers... Paging Miss Cleo.. I'd sho apprecaite it. Oh and by the way I have a beautiful 20 lb Maine Coon Oreo Cat... his name is Buddy Jo Jo- and he's the prince of my palace- real talk... Again stop hating. Us Black Folk are making moves and will continue to- don't beleive me? Check out Mike Vick... LOL too easy. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!! To all my sistas and brothas holding it down I wish you nothing but the best. Keep RISING TO THE TOP I sure will.
ReplyDeleteJ, "Field, you are far too kind to the trolls on this blog. These guys mean nothing but ill will, especially the ones who claim to help "bw" while tearing down "bm" in the most awful ways possible. These people have a cancer, and the cancer is killing this blog.
ReplyDeleteI wish you luck, sir."
First of all Anons are not trolls. Secondly, we do not wish ill-will to FN blog or bm. In fact, we love Field, even though he is a misguided confused progressive liberal agnostic-atheist who does NOT know God. But, as Pat Robertson and Rick Warren would say, "Sooner or later, Field will surrender."
Thirdly, some of us bm Anons cannot stand by while some of you jackasses berate, belittle, and degrade our bw. And yes, we will call your cowardly sorry asses out.
FYI: Most Anons contribute a great deal to FN blog...a lot more than your brain-dead-whiny ass could ever do. If FN had to depend on bm like you to comment, FN blog would be dead. Obviously, you haven't noticed how well this blog flourished in 2010! A lot is credited to the sophistication and knowledge of Anons, which you- Mack Lying, and PilotX could only dream of.
Grow up, you whimp!
And if you think Anon agents are cancer, then take your sorry ass to Stormfront. They will be glad to see your black ass. Tell them the Anons sent you...lol
"If he were Black though, you can bet you and others like you would be lieing up a storm to make him a victim"
ReplyDeleteNah, the "good neighbor"
and "he was such a good kid" or "I've known him all my life, he used to cut my lawn" excuses belong to whites folks.
these sick dog fightin pricks steal dogs and then have them fight to the death to give them the taste for blood mother fucker took my dog and did that he get a fucking baseball bat up side his skull
ReplyDeleteso sad to see field moderating fuck it's going to a bad year
ReplyDeleteThis Anonymous has an unhealthy relationship with a dog...that much is certain.
ReplyDeleteIts a damn dog......just because you have a jacked up twisted life and cannot relate to humans does not make the dog a person.
Get over it......
The Falcons owner profited way more off Michael Vick than Vick's entire contract was worth...by triple the amount. Vick didnt do anything to the Falcons but expose that the front office was living off him.
Now Jeffrey Lurie can look at the monster television ratings, incredible jersey sales, sit back with a big grin and lets see who the Eagles will play at the Linc on Jan 8th. GO EAGLES!
"so sad to see field moderating fuck it's going to a bad year"
ReplyDeleteFFH,it is not going to be a bad year, because I rarely censor comments. The moderating is primarily to fight off spammers, and it only kicks in after 24 hours.
"Oh Lawd!" I know....my goodness!!!
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