Monday, February 28, 2011

Tiger and my other cousins.


Tiger, how is that "Cablasian" thing working out for ya? While you keep trying to work that "Cablasian" angle, certain folks will have no problem reminding your black ass that you are just another N*&&#r who happens to have a sweet golf swing. I know that you are probably the greatest golfer of all time, but now that you aren't smoking fools and going in the red on your score card come Sunday, folks are feeling more comfortable about calling you out.

"Is Tiger Woods another Mike Tyson?

Woods hasn't won a tournament since the scandal over his extramarital affairs that cost him his marriage, multiple corporate sponsorships and world's No. 1 ranking. Johnny Miller, lead golf analyst for NBC Sports, compared Woods' crash and burn to Tyson's during Golf Channel's first State of the Game Live special Friday night.

After winning the WBC heavyweight belt at age 20 in 1986, Iron Mike flamed out. He was divorced by wife Robin Givens and knocked out by Buster Douglas in 1990. Tyson was sentenced to prison for rape in 1992. He declared bankruptcy in 2003.

"It's a little bit like a Mike Tyson story to be honest with you," said Miller during the Golf Central special. "Sort of invincible, scared everybody, performed quickly under pressure. Until a Buster Douglas came along...His life crumbled. It's like Humpty Dumpty. He was on the high wall, way above all the other players, and had a great fall, and there's pieces all over the place trying to put them together." [Source]


Yes, that's the ticket Johnny; Tiger Woods and Mike Tyson. They have so much in common: One is a boxer, the other a golfer. One went to prison for rape. The other...wait.. Woods didn't rape anybody. Never mind.

Finally, if I told you that folks in a suburb of Detroit are up in arms because some...ahem, ahem, "city folks" are moving into their neighborhood, I bet you would think there goes whitey again trying to keep us out of their neighborhoods. You would think it, but you would be wrong. This little saga playing itself out in Southfield, Michigan happens to pit cousins against cousins.

"SOUTHFIELD, Mich. — Three years ago, Lamar Grace left Detroit for the suburb of Southfield. He got a good deal — a 3,000-square-foot colonial that once was worth $220,000. In foreclosure, he paid $109,000.

The neighbors were not pleased.

"They don't want to live next door to ghetto folks," he says.

That his neighbors are black, like Grace, is immaterial. Many in the black middle class moved out of Detroit and settled in the northern suburbs years ago; now, due to foreclosures, it is easy to buy or rent houses on the cheap here. The result has been a new, poorer wave of arrivals from the city, and growing tensions between established residents and the newcomers...

"There's a way in which they look down on people moving in from Detroit into houses they bought for much lower prices," says Grace, a 39-year-old telephone company analyst. "I understand you want to keep out the riffraff, but it's not my fault you paid $250,000 and I paid a buck."

The neighbors say there's more to it than that. People like John Clanton, a retired auto worker, say the new arrivals have brought behavior more common in the inner city — increased trash, adults and children on the streets at all times of the night, a disregard for others' property.

"During the summer months, I sat in the garage and at 3 o'clock in the morning you see them walking up and the down the streets on their cell phones talking," Clanton says. "They pull up (in cars) in the middle of the street, and they'll hold a conversation. You can't get in your driveway. You blow the horn and they look back at you and keep on talking. That's all Detroit." [More here]

Real talk. Some of my cousins can be...well, how do I say this? Not quite as considerate as they should be of their neighbors. I hear it from some of you Negroes right here in Philly when your less desirable cousins move into your neighborhoods. ----White folks, don't trip. I hear it from you as well. I know some white folks with homes at the "Jersey Shore", and they absolutely lose their minds if a "certain type "of white person buys (or rents) a shore home even on the same block with them. So this little issue seems to be color blind.

Still, to my friends in Southfield, all I can say is can't we all get along? Why don't you throw a big block party and invite all the neighbors. After barbecues and a brew or two, folks will open up and feel free to talk. At that point tell Pookie an em to try to be more considerate of their neighbors and then duck.

105 comments:

  1. Field, I can see your point, but I can also see the comparison between Tiger and Iron Mike -- two invincible dudes in sports who got blindside by their own weakness (Tiger and his fetish for cheap porn star booty and Tyson's lack of spiritual piece and Don King running his corner).

    Still, they could have found another athlete who fell from grace. Seriously.

    As for the Michigan folks, it doesn't matter if Wayne Brady moved in next door. Some white folks will whine and plenty of 'uppity Negroes' will lose their cookies if poor people move in. This is straight bougie NIMBY crap - and I pray to the Lord I don't become like that when I get my money in order and buy a home.


    Here's a thought. Instead of making these blue collar folks feel like pariahs in houses they legitimately bought - how about welcoming them into the neighborhood? These snooty suburbanites could introduce themselves and work with the community. Hell, chances are that Big Mama tried to move out from the hood for piece and quiet too. Who knows, by actually acting like neighbors, the community might improve. What a novel concept.

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  2. The ironic thing is that Southfield used to be majority white as late as the eighties. So many whites left when blacks (middle class or not) moved in. The whites moved further out to more northerly/western suburbs.

    Eventually the whites will move back to downtown Detroit, gentrification will follow and people will be complaining about not being able to afford to live in their own neighborhood any more. So it goes.

    But it's not just racism though. SOME people do have an irritating habit of walking down the middle of the street (ignoring sidewalks built explicitly for that purpose)and LOUDNESS. If I had moved out to Southfield for the express purpose of avoiding that sort of thing I would be upset to have it follow me out there. I might do something drastic like move to Howell or Milan...LOL

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  3. oh good laird.

    i lived in Southfield way back in the day. it was "deteriorating" even then. it's actually a shadow of its former self, today, what with the abandoned factories and empty corporate buildings and krist... what a stupid article. only people from outside the D and its burbs would take that seriously. really, "white flight" was born in Detroit and the process has been going on since before I was born. rich white people who are racists? they live in far north Oakland county, and have for decades. Southfield hasn't been a "choice" address for racists since my mother was in college.

    still, it's actually a pretty nice 'hood and i'd live there again if i had to. unlike the morons who generalize for a living and call themselves "journalists" at MSNBC or whatever, i have no problem with neighbors who use cell phones or are a tad slow to clean up their lawns. dude, i live in the suburbs now and plenty of my white neighbors have 'issues' like that. this is simply more "detroit bashing" and frankly it's getting really tired. come here, look around, MI is diverse and interesting despite its lack of "hipness" to people who live on the oh-so-sophisticated Coasts.

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  4. Ah... Field, I've written papers on this topic: "Is it Class or Race". I contend that it's both, however, your article speaks to the class strata in the so called "black community" that like "colorism" is an uncomfortable topic.

    The brevity and humor that you frame this topic in makes it a little easier to read. But this is happening all over America and I witnessed on Eye Witness News in my community, a professional black gentleman speak out against a newly constructed idea (by the council) to build section 8 homes in his area. He went on about diminished property values and folks with different social customs and values. Oh "Lawd", the horror of bouncing basketballs at midnite and pit bulls running through the neighborhood dragging their chains. God forbid!!!

    One option that you mentioned...getting to know them and then expressing your concerns and possibly getting hurt; garnered a smile from me. It's complicated
    and far more insidious to problem solve intractable class biases than racism. Although, we are still working on the latter centuries later. You can't really control what ethnicity you're born into but you should be able to control your station in life and how you live it. Right? As you say we live in "A-merry-ca". Just as I denounce racism...the same goes for classism.

    In re: to Tiger. It's ironic how the public embraced him and he was the golden boy especially for those whites who could make an exception based on his skills. Now that he's messed up royally--they want to return him to us. Well he wants no part of it and neither do I. Please Tiger stay in "Cablasian" land!!!

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  5. Anonymous10:17 PM

    When you move to the burbs, you don't want to see folks from the ghettoes following you. That's the point of moving to the suburbs...to get away from those loud cell phone nappy headed don't give a damn Negroes.

    I swear, I hate Negroes like those ignoramuses. And why should I have to give a block party for Negroes who only care about themselves? That will only make them think they are more important than they already are and they will act more like black asses even more. Stay downtown you uneducated loud talking gun toting shitheads!

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  6. This is reminiscent of the good ole high-sodiddy black folks of Martha's Vineyard calling Michelle Obama uncultured or whatever buzzwords they use to try to self-inflate. Bougieness is a mental disease.

    Tiger fell victim to the same illness. Doesn't matter how far you try to run from who you are, they will always be waiting to grease your fall. Meanhile white athletes can get away with anything, anytime, anywhere.

    I live in G-Rap, but I looove me some Detroit. Her rouigh edges just makes her even more endearing.

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  7. Anonymous10:25 PM

    Tiger lost his wife because of some dumbass porn girls. Believe or not, that affected his ability and skills as a professional golfer.

    But I don't blame him for wanting to be Cablasian because that's what I am. Seeing how Blacks act in Detroit and in Southfield, MI who the hell wants to be Black? Unless you are Chicago Dyke who has no problem with loud ass Negroes in the neighborhood. But with a name like C.D. what can you expect? With a name like that you are bound to have the standards and morals of an alley cat.

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  8. Sandy24810:29 PM

    While I'm not bougie by any means, I can understand why people don't want to be around ghetto behavior. I work with a sister now who says fo instead of four and think it's cute. It's not. It doesn't take having high income to have a little class and consideration. Unfortunately, crass behavior is prevalent among working class people. I'm not condoning the actions of billionaires who are trying to undermine the rights of the masses by financing republican politicians, but the crass behavior of working class people makes it easier for the greedy bastards to do their dirty work. Nothing wrong with having some dignity and consideration of your neighbors and it doesn't cost a dime.

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  9. Anonymous10:30 PM

    Ernesto, "I live in G-Rap, but I looove me some Detroit. Her rouigh edges just makes her even more endearing."

    It figures because you are the ghetto type. Where have you been? I thought you were ""dedicated"" to teaching us Anons a lesson? Don't feel bad. Better folks than you have tried and failed. But I must say, "Ernest, thus far, you have been the weakest of them all"

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  10. Anonymous10:32 PM

    Field, couldn't you have found a 'better' picture of Tiger? Please show him some respect. We Cablasians are human too.

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  11. Anonymous10:39 PM

    Sandy, ".. Nothing wrong with having some dignity and consideration of your neighbors and it doesn't cost a dime."

    Sandy, you nailed it. That says it all. Not only do they have no dignity, but they have no shame. Shameless people aren't fully human.

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  12. Most people don't want to do the neighborly thing. Instead, they behave like assholes to those who they see as having less material wealth than them. It's one thing to want to keep your community from devolving into a hot ghetto mess, but it's another to actively engage in asshole behavior towards those who might have less means than you do.

    "But I don't blame him for wanting to be Cablasian because that's what I am. Seeing how Blacks act in Detroit and in Southfield, MI who the hell wants to be Black? Unless you are Chicago Dyke who has no problem with loud ass Negroes in the neighborhood. But with a name like C.D. what can you expect? With a name like that you are bound to have the standards and morals of an alley cat."

    You'd be surprised by the number of people who proudly accept their "Blackness". You must have been around those folk who invent new ethnic groups for themselves to escape being Black for too long.

    You really need to lay off the insults before your fingers type up a check that your ass can't cash. I'll be around the corner with a bag of popcorn waiting for that ass to get bounced.

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  13. Mack, i don't respond to trolls but i'll say this to you:

    trying to shame me about my ethnicity or sexuality? about as effective as trying to teach a fish to use a bicycle. no worries, my friend. they never phase me.

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  14. Anonymous11:40 PM

    Ernesto said...
    Meanhile white athletes can get away with anything, anytime, anywhere.


    Please,please,please name me one thing,just one thing, that a white athlete has gotten away with that black athletes hadn't gotten away with 10 fold.



    fields,

    "Is Tiger Woods another Mike Tyson?"

    Uh..... I agree with LAC on that point.[Don't tell anyone]

    Also,Miller is one of them Latter-day Saints.

    Just sayin' is all....

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  15. Anonymous11:49 PM

    Mack Lyons, "You really need to lay off the insults before your fingers type up a check that your ass can't cash. I'll be around the corner with a bag of popcorn waiting for that ass to get bounced."

    Why are you always picking on me? Why can't I express myself like everyone else? You certainly don't call out AB, Kid, uts, mell, or even slappz. This is discrimination. that's why so many blacks are becoming Cablasians. it's because of Negroes like you.

    and i'm tired of cd calling anons trolls. THAT IS "INSULTING" but somehow you condone it, you double-standard-double-minded jackass.

    No I am not crazy about being part of the black race. Too many self-righteous Negroes like you, mell, uts, Kid, and other Detroit Negroes who destroy cities, and their race. And YOU expect me to love Blacks...get the eff outta here!

    You can play like Blacks are proud to be Black if you want to, but many feel and know otherwise. Try walking the streets in the hood at night and see how much you love your brother..lol

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  16. Anonymous11:55 PM

    The only reason there is a post picking on poor Tiger is because he found a way to get out of the black race, but folks like Field won't leave him alone. Why? jealousy. pure jealousy.

    Many thanks and more power to Tiger for starting a new race of Cablasians. He opened the doors and freed many of us Negroes looking for a "way out"!

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  17. LOL at Tiger, a real cunumunu mumu, he deserves all the backlash. I keep telling people, that crackish lust for white flesh has always been the down fall for many black/ish men. History is always revolving, certain groups of people never learn. And I don't know why some of you black folks (black men) are hell bent on claiming that man. Well, a long time ago I already filed that willfully confused cabulasanan under... one less march and one less color coded t-shirt to throw in the trash. Next.

    And sorry Field, I sympathize with Clanton and the others. AND I'M SURE THERE WERE LOTS OF LOUD MUSIC AND UNNECESSARY NOISE INVOLVED! And we wonder why some white people with even less tolerance want to live further away as well.

    And Clanton better hope and pray the Dominicans and Haitians don't move in next. He will be kissing his peace, quiet, backyard items and four legged pets goodbye!

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  18. "Why are you always picking on me? Why can't I express myself like everyone else? You certainly don't call out AB, Kid, uts, mell, or even slappz. This is discrimination. that's why so many blacks are becoming Cablasians. it's because of Negroes like you."

    Trolls be trollin', trolls be trollin.

    Troll on, "brother", troll on.

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  19. "STFU you pussy before I tell your wife and she smacks that nappy head of yours around. You aint bouncing my ass so get those disgusting dreams out of your head loser. You sure know what ghetto is fo sure."

    Seems like every blog post the trolls become that much lamer. Learn from your anon colleagues on how to step your game up.

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  20. SPC: "Please,please,please name me one thing,just one thing, that a white athlete has gotten away with that black athletes hadn't gotten away with 10 fold."

    Serial raping white women like Big Ben Rapistburglar. Note how last season Mike Vick has to apologize every 10 seconds for killing Rover whilst all the sportswriters skated so gingerly around a rapist.

    anon 11:55: Many thanks and more power to Tiger for starting a new race of Cablasians. He opened the doors and freed many of us Negroes looking for a "way out"!


    Idiot, the whole point of the post was that he ain't being ALLOWED to forget his blackness now that he messed up. He could have been given a pass if the "bla" part of the caublasian wasn't in there.

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  21. "Serial raping white women like Big Ben Rapistburglar. Note how last season Mike Vick has to apologize every 10 seconds for killing Rover whilst all the sportswriters skated so gingerly around a rapist."

    The guy was merely "accused" of being a rapist. Not that it made it any better. You'd be amazed how many people don't really give a shit about sexual assault victims, but when "man's best friend" is in danger....

    The flip side of it is if Vick was the one being accused of sexual assault (of white women, because the justice system and the media really don't give a shit about Black women) and if ROFLsburger was the one fighting pits, Big Ben would still get a pass -- people will chalk up the experience as a result of Ben being "mislead" or "misguided". PETA would be plenty pissed, but it wouldn't matter. Vick would still be in jail, convicted and handed down a 20-30 year sentence based on the mere verbal testimony of the victim and nothing else.

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  22. Ernesto12:45 AM

    "Big Ben would still get a pass -- people will chalk up the experience as a result of Ben being "mislead" or "misguided". PETA would be plenty pissed, but it wouldn't matter. Vick would still be in jail, convicted and handed down a 20-30 year sentence based on the mere verbal testimony of the victim and nothing else."


    And you know this!!

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  23. Anonymous1:23 AM

    Seems like every blog post the trolls become that much lamer. Learn from your anon colleagues on how to step your game up.

    Yeah, that wasn't lame, not much. I thought you were a tough thug? what happened? this was a pussy statement.
    It would be lame if we all didn't know that your wife actually does whip your head around every time you disobey her. She does pay the bills after all.

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  24. "Yeah, that wasn't lame, not much. I thought you were a tough thug? what happened? this was a pussy statement.
    It would be lame if we all didn't know that your wife actually does whip your head around every time you disobey her. She does pay the bills after all."


    Sorry Skippy. You aren't worth getting all upset over. You can go back to playing WOW in your funky-ass underwear now.

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  25. mellaneous1:42 AM

    @Ernesto and Mack

    Where ya'll been you know I have been making this point about Vick and Roethlisberger for a few posts, but I'll give ya'll some dap lol.

    You know Mack that if Vick had of been accused of pulling out his stuff and forcing himself on women it would been all over. Of course if they were black women maybe not so much! But if the situation had been reversed. Lawd!!!

    @LAC you nailed it, black folks don't have to act like other folks just cause they got a little money.

    Field I think you got it right a little reaching out would probably go a long way.

    @Chicago Dyke I think they are hating on your town

    @ Carolyn Moon its class first race is used to keep folks from noticing the class issue. Like Jody's funny anecdote they run off with 11 of the dozen while pointing out how somebody took more than their fair share of the 12th cookie.

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  26. mellaneous1:47 AM

    Oh yeah Mack and Ernesto I wrote a column about what I thought the Vick Rothlisberger hypocrisy was all about.

    Want to read it, here it go...

    "Race trumps dog, dog trumps woman"

    these are the last few paragraphs you can read the rest here:

    http://www.spokesman-recorder.com/?p=1840

    ...One would have expected female writers to have more to say on this issue. I suspect women were silent — especially White women, the same who were so hostile toward Vick — are silent about Big Ben and his misbehavior involving women because the Steeler quarterback is White and the dictates of White Supremacy override their own self-interest.

    I suspect it’s because these women saw first in Vick a Black man who deep down they don’t feel should be able to make millions of dollars, especially after he had done something criminal in our unforgiving society. They inherently know the rules: Black folks are to be given one chance and one chance only!

    Ironically, this is just another ploy by the ruling rich to keep us divided, because in truth no one is innocent and we all need forgiveness and redemption from time to time. For those who I think I exaggerate, take a closer look.

    Oddly, the Steeler quarterback has been offered redemption although he has clearly been unrepentant and unapologetic, while the obviously penitent and remorseful Vick is denied redemption by a society that — deny it if they will — sees race first and foremost.

    Moreover, I suspect the silence on this subject is also because many women understand their place in this society and understand the pecking order, which ranks White men first (White Supremacy), then dogs (animals), then White women, then other people of color, and finally Blacks.

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  27. Ernesto2:32 AM

    mell...there are some obvious truths in what you write, but obviously, the truth is so well hidden that you have to bring out the obvious to people.

    Speaking of which, I wrote something about this topic three years ago titled "Message to the Black Athlete in America", which brought up the ugly truth that things haven't changed much since the days of Jack Johnson.

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  28. Hey you all this even happens in Fort Smith AR. The condos were I used to live started accepting Hud. Not just us Black folks acted a fool so it has to be a class thing or maybe just a common sense thing.The owners made everyone move out fixed the places back up and stopped taking Hud.The former residents moved into the apartments down the street and proceeded to trash them in turn.Most people who do not work have to much time on their hands and well yall know the deal about idle time. Mike did a lot of crazy things but he stayed away from Buffey , Kateland and Robin was Black on the surface anyway imagine if she had been white.

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  29. P.S. My man Jay z better watch out as well cause just as soon as the transformation is complete , his Black ass gonna be on the grill as well thats right I said it.

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  30. OG, the main problem with public housing and Section 8 is that it attracts a certain mentality that's never come in contact with or appreciated the finer points of home/property ownership (or even renting). In other words, they feel that since the rent's on the government's dime, they are absolved of any responsibility for maintaining the property.

    Combine this with the general "ghetto" attitudes of some of the folks who move into these places and the criminal activity that follows and you can see why people tend to get pissed when they find out the house down the block is slated to be Section 8. Because that's where the thugs and the squad cars and the gunshots and loud-ass people fighting in the street over their sexual partners will come from. And then the property values start to drop.

    The reason I chafe when certain people talk about this phenomenom is that they often throw in a subtle racist component -- they conclude that the attitudes of the ghetto bastards that government housing sometimes brings is the attitudes that all Blacks share, therefore in order to keep the community pristine and crime-free, you must keep out the Blacks, even if they share many of the same values as you and yours do, because they'll eventually morph into the ghetto bastards you're scared shitless of. Somehow.

    Iron Mike's career would have been a wrap if he did to a "Becky" what he did to Robin Givens. O.J.'s still paying for Ron and Nicole's deaths. Troi Torain would had been blacklisted from radio and sent to Riker's Island for the next 10 to 15 years if DJ Envy's kid was a white "Shirley Temple"-looking photogenic kid. And R. Kelly? Let him piss on a 13-year-old white girl and people would be chomping at the bit to have him castrated and hanged like it was the Jim Crow-era South all over again.

    Rule of thumb of Black men: DON'T FUCK WITH OUR WHITE WIMMIN. Unless they're fat, ugly, trailer trash or all three -- white folk aren't as concerned when Black men take their "rejects" and "leftovers".

    Reminds me of how Auburn or Alabama was getting a multimillion-dollar upgrade to their stadium, but people on AL.com became outraged when Legion Field bought one of their hand-me-down scoreboards for $10k...

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  31. "Tiger is because he found a way to get out of the black race, but folks like Field won't leave him alone. Why? jealousy. pure jealousy."

    OK, you are on to me; I would kill for that golf swing.

    CAROLYN, you are right, this is a complicated subject. But sometimes we just have to talk.

    Mack I deleted that stuff Anon wrote about your fam. come on Anon. you can do better than that. Don't let me call your President on you.

    I know that some of you Anons are a bit weak in the words dept. but even an Anon can do better than what you posted.

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  32. Anonymous7:59 AM

    Ben is guilty because he's white? Sorry, but I want this proof thingie. NW PA has a woman who was claiming the BabyDaddy was a famous AfAm...two DNA tests later...she still claiming it. DNA has a different story.

    Why the assumption that the gal is truthful? Don't you remember McMartin? Nixon? Kissinger? Pearle? Wolfowitz? Cheney? Ollie North? Bill Clinton? bush? People lie...that includes cute white girls as well as the local Heeyucks.

    Our local 'subsidized housing' used to be really nice. Elderly and low income...but there was screening...no Heeyucks allowed. It was deciderated by a bush putz to place more Heeyucks in the housing and it became less pleasant. Letting TeaBaggers in lowered the desirability and added crime. TeaBaggers love it, all those old folks they can Galt on..and the children of the poor are prime targets for TeaBagger 'desires'. But, the local police are not FOX fakeLibruls and eagerly excise TeaBaggers like tumors.

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  33. field, you wrote:

    While you keep trying to work that "Cablasian" angle, certain folks will have no problem reminding your black ass that you are just another N*&&#r who happens to have a sweet golf swing.

    Ah, more of the black imagination at work. As golfer and as someone with an interest in Woods' career, I've had plenty of conversations about his success, his fall and his return.

    Not one conversation has had a racial angle. Not one person I've spoken to has enjoyed his misery. Moreover, no one has taken a negative view of him because of his off-the-links antics.

    The only place these thoughts burble up is in your head, and maybe the collective black unconscious.

    As for Tyson, believe me, white boxing fans felt let down by the way his career crumbled. Personally, I believed he should have been acquitted in his rape trial. But as a result of his conviction, fans of Tyson and boxing itself, lost the three years that would have probably been the best of his career.

    Just like Muhammad Ali, who lost three years because he had become a pathetic tool for the Nation of Islam.

    Seems the place where the worst thoughts about black are formed is in black minds.

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  34. Anonymous8:48 AM

    Amazing...not one wite dude mentions race when discussing Tiger. How do they do it?!
    It is almost like those cabbies who agree completely with pundits who are 'discussing' column pieces.
    I never knew so many Iraqi citizens thought bush was a man-god among mere mortals and all worshiped his manly manliness.
    Or, being an old cynic, I could say it was made up.

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  35. Anonymous8:50 AM

    "Yes, that's the ticket Johnny; Tiger Woods and Mike Tyson. They have so much in common: One is a boxer, the other a golfer. One went to prison for rape. The other...wait.. Woods didn't rape anybody. Never mind."

    Mr.Field, LOL! That was my first laugh Of the day! And I needed that! All the comments that followed are quite funny also.

    I agree with Carolyn Moons analysis of this complicated topic, and "pitbulls dragging their chains" LOLOLOLOL! still laughing!!!

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  36. shady grady wrote:

    Eventually the whites will move back to downtown Detroit, gentrification will follow and people will be complaining about not being able to afford to live in their own neighborhood any more. So it goes.

    Whites return? Probably not. Detroit has so many problems that anyone who can move away will move away. That includes the auto industry.

    Car companies are doing their best to find hospitable sites for new factories. Moreover, cars and trucks are now assembled from parts that come from sources that are often far from the final assembly plants in Detroit. This trend will continue no matter what happens in Michigan.

    That forces the question of what will fill the gap of the shrinking industry? At this point the replacement is government checks.

    If the schools close -- and there WILL be major closings -- that means there's even less chance former residents of Detroit will "return."

    Meanwhile, "gentrification" does not occur where the housing stock and the community has gone completely to crap.

    Only parts of Harlem have begun to "gentrify", and there is no doubt the gentrification is good news. Of course it's bad news for the 3am, loud talking, car honking, street blocking, low-lifes that make living near them such a nightmare.

    YOu can claim that whites engage in the same nonsense. It may be true if you live near a fraternity house, over a bar that hosts live music, or way down at the lowest ebb of white society. But I've been all over the US and I've lived in Brooklyn for a number of years. There's no comparison.

    Aside from the tiny number of upscale black housing sites, the others are noisy, chaotic, anarchic and home to way too many unruly people. The nature of these neighborhoods is a function of Class and Race.

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  37. mack lyons writes:

    OG, the main problem with public housing and Section 8 is that it attracts a certain mentality that's never come in contact with or appreciated the finer points of home/property ownership (or even renting). In other words, they feel that since the rent's on the government's dime, they are absolved of any responsibility for maintaining the property.

    Wow. Is anyone getting the idea that you cannot provide FREE HOUSING to people who lack the personal qualities essential to maintaining a livable neighborhood?

    Let's all thank Lyndon Johnson for giving us the Great Society as interpreted by HUD.

    Project housing has a long history in the US. But until the Civil Rights Act, operators of government housing were able to refuse undesirable tenants -- people with no credit, no jobs, no money. Then the laws changed and it was unlawful to deny someone access to government housing for all the reasons that had been previously considered prudent.

    Hmmmm. Sounds like the mortgage crisis. Laws were changed and it was no longer possible to say NO to someone seeking a mortgage. All the applicant had to do was promise, just promise he would repay the loan. And here we are.

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  38. hey fn:

    i told u so...

    hobama has officially declared war on africa via africom

    that kenyan hobama is the new champion slayer in africa...shame!!!!

    stay tuned

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/world/puts%20jets%20ships%20Libya/4363068/story.html

    http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

    http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/americas-first-war-africa-us-africom-launches-large-scale-offensive-somalia

    http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/africom-unmasked-unwanted-and-vulnerable

    http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=category/africa/africom

    http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/africom-ain%E2%80%99t-peace-corps

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CB0QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DBD7363AEwzE&ei=ewBtTffeCZGftwf59_jFBQ&usg=AFQjCNEVEqPFS8H-hjAgCZMh2PUci_8rfg

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  39. ps:

    farrakhan has been a friend to mq and a moderate hobama fan...

    which side will lf choose now???

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  40. "Aside from the tiny number of upscale black housing sites, the others are noisy, chaotic, anarchic and home to way too many unruly people.
    "


    Actually, that sounds wonderful to me, I could go for that. I live in the dullest of suburban enclaves these days, I could do with experiencing some life again.

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  42. pookies run the world...

    ask anyone who has seen a great apt complex/bldg destroyed by section 8...

    we lost the battle with pookies long ago when they started turbo breeding...

    ask the resident pookie/turbo breeder = the vdlr!!!

    pookies' worst sins are yet to come globally!!!

    http://www.amazon.com/Disintegration-Splintering-America-Eugene-Robinson/dp/0385526547/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1298990973&sr=1-1

    http://www.amazon.com/Conversate-Not-Word-Getting-Ghetto/dp/1556527802

    http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

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  43. Anonymous9:57 AM

    Lyndon Johnson knew what it was to be poor and denied opportunity...so he tried to give other poor folks a chance. How eveel of him!
    bush grew up with advantages that he gleefully rubs in your face...and you thank him for being a bully and a jerkhole? bush beleeverates he is 'Merican aristocracy...and you enable this?
    Maybe it is because your history begins with st reagan and you have really no clue as to what life was like back then.
    They really were the Bad Old Days...even the 1950s.

    Mold

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  44. Anonymous10:11 AM

    " The Purple Cow said...
    "Aside from the tiny number of upscale black housing sites, the others are noisy, chaotic, anarchic and home to way too many unruly people.
    "

    Actually, that sounds wonderful to me, I could go for that. I live in the dullest of suburban enclaves these days, I could do with experiencing some life again.

    9:27 AM"


    Well by all means, move your dull self to Detroit! But, be sure your life insureace is paid-up. IF you can get it, that is. (Because you might not be "experiencing life" too long)

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  45. Anonymous10:15 AM

    Ernesto said...
    Serial raping white women like Big Ben Rapistburglar


    You mean like serial raping/assualting Jerramy Stevens?

    Whats the count?? 5 plus woman had to be paid off??


    Still waiting.................




    Mack Lyons said...
    "Serial raping white women like Big Ben Rapistburglar. Note how last season Mike Vick has to apologize every 10 seconds for killing Rover whilst all the sportswriters skated so gingerly around a rapist."

    This after it took forever to get Mike Vick to tell the truth.


    LOL@ gingerly




    The flip side of it is if Vick was the one being accused of sexual assault (of white women, because the justice system and the media really don't give a shit about Black women)

    The only time anyone gives a sh*t about balck women is when white males are doing the crimes against them.



    and if ROFLsburger was the one fighting pits, Big Ben would still get a pass -- people will chalk up the experience as a result of Ben being "mislead" or "misguided".


    You forget the "black culture" defense?Or the broken home defense??

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  46. Anonymous10:19 AM

    Funny how it is Detroit that is eveel...along with Buffalo...and other cities with large AfAm populations drawn there by Southern 'civility' and jobs that paid oodles more than slavecropping.
    Note how we avoid any mention of Wasilla...is it because there are wites? How about the nasty of PA coal towns? Whimper about loud and obnoxious AfAms...but how can you overlook the Saturday Night Desperation?
    Wonder how CT would do if NYC cut off all the subsidies? There are actually 'contingency plans' for such events...I'll tell you all that vaunted pale witeness won't do you any good.

    Mold

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  47. Anonymous10:28 AM

    Anonymously Moldy said...
    Funny how it is Detroit that is eveel...along with Buffalo...and other cities with large AfAm populations drawn there by Southern 'civility' and jobs that paid oodles more than slavecropping.

    It is not funny it's sad. But now that you have said it why do you supposed Black Cities are so bad? I am sure you only meant evil (you mispelled evil) in a figurative sense.

    Whats "slavecropping"? Whats "wites"? What do you mean by "all that vaunted pale witness"?

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  48. Anonymous10:33 AM

    Anonymous said...
    Amazing...not one wite dude mentions race when discussing Tiger.
    Mold

    Thats because we leave the lame attempts at race baiting to you and your ilk.

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  50. more on the horrid hopelessness and perpetual perils of pookies/vdlrs:

    I took them with us to the park, to baseball games, and to most of the cultural events my family attended. Their mother always said yes before I could even finish the offer and never wrote down my offered cellphone number. Before I accepted that Sam's Club's offerings were more than my small family could efficiently consume, I took a chance on sharing my extras with "Mary" and she gratefully accepted. So gratefully that, before long, she was sending the kids over with requests: "Mama say we need sugar." I sent over a 5-pound bag. A week later: "Mama say we need sugar." "Mama say we need orange juice." "Mama say, we hungry." Each request came complete with prolonged, drug-bust-style banging on my window though the doorbell is brightly illuminated. "Mama say we need meat." "No, she say we need four rolls of toilet paper. And soap." "You don't got no sour cream chips?"

    They had no tools, no salt for the sidewalks, no batteries for the broken toys that littered their yard and which the kids hopefully offered in exchange for the use of mine's Toys "R" Us bonanza. When the child I sent home to be bandaged (they played so roughly) came back still bleeding and undisinfected, I left a Megalo-Mart, industrial-size box of bandages and a four-pack of Neosporin on the broken porch chair I used as the drop site for my donations. The next few days, I watched the Smith kids run about festooned head to toe in Winnie the Pooh steri-strips. The next time "Mama said we need Band-Aids" I said I was all out.



    http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/feature/2006/12/18/katrina

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  51. No_Slappz wrote
    Whites return? Probably not. Detroit has so many problems that anyone who can move away will move away. That includes the auto industry.


    You're wrong.
    Some Whites have already started moving back to Detroit, even as Blacks move to the inner suburbs.

    http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2010/09/29/report-whites-moving-back-to-detroit/

    http://detroit.blogs.time.com/2010/09/29/the-return-flight/

    http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=219112

    This was all huge news locally as it went against everyone's preconceptions about white people.
    Big surprise.

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  52. Anonymous11:03 AM

    SPC, why I do beleeve you, yes I do. Not one wite dude ever mentioned race when discussing the career of Eldrick Woods. Perish the thought.
    Why in Witesylvania, all wites follow the teachings of MLK and only judge fellow citizens on their character and not one iota on the colour of their skin. Just beleeve it when they tell you this. Why would wite dudez lie?
    Oh.
    Maybe it is because actions speak louder than repeated denials...and that calling racists, 'racists' is not, in and of itself, anyway racist. But it bugs racists to have everyone know that they are racist. Kind of 'mental Kochroaches'. Add the light of Truth and they scurry...crying out that they aren't 'Kochroaches'.
    Maybe it is a wingnut thing...that claiming a 9 yo 'seduced' you and having the Heeyucks accept such nonsense. Or that if you repeat bullpoo enough, it will be true. That intellectually deficient and work-averse can be the leaders. That undifferentiated cells are people and women are just Easy-Lay ovens for the Glorious and Sacred Only Male Created Life.

    See, that's what happens when women get educated...they realise what losers some folks are...and state it openly.

    Mold

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  54. Anonymous11:08 AM

    Shady, I was surprised to see the same in Beantown. Peak Oil worries and cheap housing. Commute times may gladden the hearts of conservadummies...but most people would rather spend the time doing something else. Makes me wonder what kind of person likes to sit in an SUV peeking into other folks' cars.

    Mold

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  55. From San Francisco’s Fillmore, Hayes Valley and Western Addition, Black people and other members of the community of the poor were removed. The removal was a new form of segregation and discrimination. The government unit that led the charge was the Redevelopment Agency. The sociological name for this removal was and is gentrification.

    San Franciscans, indeed Californians, will oppose segregation and discrimination in any form. Therefore, to succeed, it must be practiced below the radar. In our recent history, restrictive covenants were used to discriminate. The voters eliminated that practice once it was exposed.

    Gentrification, the new form of segregation, works because the people are unaware of its pathology. News media will not publish any description of its practice. The mainstream media conspire to keep it hidden from the fair-minded voters of San Francisco.

    http://sfbayview.com/2009/gentrification-the-new-form-of-segregation/

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  56. sg:

    MANY major american cities are whiter than ever all over the usa

    chi
    frisco
    oakland
    dc
    etc

    it is ethnic cleansing by realtors for the blackish hobama and his banskters

    that is called gentrification

    and it is nothing to herald

    and pookies make many welcome it
    shame!!!

    fyi

    In urban Black America, stable communities are the exception rather than the rule. It's a fact of black life in the US that our urban communities, especially poorer ones are rarely allowed to exist more than a couple generations. Low and moderate income black communities, especially renters are not valued, either by our black elite or by the larger society. Portrayed in the media as desparate sinkholes of despair they are inevitably slated for gentrification, displacement and dispersal. Communities of public housing residents have been conspicious targets of this model of urban redevelopment. Last summer, Black Agenda Report talked to USF's Dr. Susan D. Grreenbaum, one of the few scholars studying the outcome of the national policy of demolishing and dispersing public housing communities. It's a question most scholars and our black elite seldom ask. For too much of our black business class leadership, gentrification isn't a question of economic justice. It's just another way to get paid

    http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/gentrification-demolishing-projects-and-dispersal-poor-urban-black-communities


    see much more on that:

    http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

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  57. http://videosift.com/video/Chappelles-Show-The-Racial-Draft

    remember this?

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  58. gentrification = poverty pimping + elite bilking

    pookies and yuppies/buppies are all being pimped by greedy realtors all over the usa


    Seeing that the housing projects in San Francisco are going the way of the dinosaur, what does that mean for our people who live there? The powers that be have had a long standing practice of systematic gentrification – i.e., dismantling public housing and only allowing a small number to return once the new units are built.

    One of the tactics was making the re-entry requirements too stringent for them to return. Another practice of the City and the Housing Authority was to dangle the Section 8 carrot in front of people. Who could resist the opportunity to move to the suburbs and live in a 2,000 square foot house for $150 a month? There’s only a limited amount of affordable housing in San Francisco, and 80 percent of landlords don’t want anything to do with Section 8. Thus we have flight to places like Antioch, Pittsburg, Vallejo, Fairfield, Stockton etc.

    http://sfbayview.com/2011/black-population-drops-to-3-9-in-san-francisco/

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  59. hey lack:

    more ar kudos

    Dr. Edith Irby Jones was the first African-American student to attend the University of Arkansas School of Medicine - nine years before the Little Rock Nine - and she was also the first woman president of the National Medical Association.


    http://www.blackamericaweb.com/?q=articles/news/the_black_diaspora_news/26259

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  60. Anonymous11:41 AM

    Congrats to Natalie Portman for her Oscar for 'Leon, the Professional'. After all, every Star Wars fanboy should be as artistic as her and be a soft-core pron star at 12. Why, they need to get lives. Look at her, she does a Trilogy and now she has the spare cash for a moocher 'boyfriend' and to campaign mercilessly for over a year to obtain an Oscar.

    Mold

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  61. shady grady, you wrote:

    You're wrong. Some Whites have already started moving back to Detroit, even as Blacks move to the inner suburbs.

    Yeah. Sure. I'm wrong. Whites vacate Detroit, but a few hopeful white opportunists move in.

    You have the standard black math innumeracy problem. And you also seem to think whites will move to an urban setting where there are no jobs.

    Detroit, as an auto center, is still losing ground. As long as the economic backbone of the region is declining, there is no reason to believe whites other than those white hermit crabs looking for a cheap shell to inhabit will move in.

    Gentrification -- the return of whites -- to Harlem, Bedford Stuyvesant, Bushwick and the Rockaways is happening ONLY because these people have jobs in Manhattan or nearby.

    With schools shutting down in Detroit, there is less and less reason every day to stick around. More parents and children will leave, creating a social dynamic that gets worse and worse.

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  62. mold, i haven't seen black swan. who do you think deserved to win?

    i thought her performance in the profession was far better than the girl's in true grit.

    you know the melissa leo, who won best-supporting for the fighter, self-funded her successful oscar campaign? i have always liked her, back from the days of homicide.

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  63. great morning lack!

    lack:

    more on hobama's cia ties that bind...

    The New York Times on Sunday published a column by its public editor, Arthur S. Brisbane, defending the newspaper’s decision to withhold, at the request of the Obama administration, the fact that CIA killer Raymond Davis is an employee of the US spy agency.



    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/mar2011/time-m01.shtml

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  64. shady grady, the news article you cited states:

    Newly released data shows a growing trend in Detroit — more whites are moving back into the city. Kurt Metzger of Data Driven Detroit says that, according to the latest figures, the number of whites in Detroit jumped from 8 to 13 percent between 2008 and 2009.

    Yet another example of reporter ignorance and innumeracy. These clowns never understand numbers.

    Here's an explanation of his idiocy.

    The population of Detroit has been dropping. But a lot of young whites have remained in the city. As renters they've probably had an easy time of getting rent reductions, or certainly no rent increases. Therefore, why move if their neighborhoods are okay?

    Anyway, if the overall population of Detroit falls, but white residents stay put, then their percentage of the total population climbs.

    Get it?

    Anyway, I'm sure you realize that Detroit desperately needs to keep whites in the picture. Obviously, the idiot reporter is doing what he thinks he can do to start a tidal shift of whites coming TO the city, instead of running for the hills.

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  65. Anonymous11:59 AM

    If whites move back, the Grandiose Myth of Witeness will lose ground! Quick...man the keyboards!
    Did it ever occur to wingnuts that Detroit is an object lesson in union-busting outcomes? Eradicate those 'parasites' and the infrastructure crumbles, businesses fold, and life becomes Libertarian/Randian/Fwee Market. Koch and their wealthy ilk can sidestep all this..as can the 'talented tenth'..but what about wingnuts...TeaBaggers...and other low-skill/low-info/low everythings?


    Mold

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  66. Anonymous12:14 PM

    maria, NP in 'Leon was great work. I don't know who I'd pick for Oscar. Bad year for my film watching. Just found her whine about the fanboys a tad petualant...since Star Wars paid her bills. And what she called 'art' was very similar to the ongoing scam of modern art. Plus, we heathens did not comprehend the greatness that was her mooch/boyfriend/rentboy/?...without her bankrolling his 'projects'..he'd be working as an actor/waiter. Sorry, but I like a lot of fanboys.

    Mold

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  67. Anonymous12:17 PM

    Just so the Trolls are kept honest...the criminalization of miscarriages was true...and worse than rational beings thought.

    Mold

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  68. Anonymous12:18 PM

    mold said...
    Did it ever occur to wingnuts that Detroit is an object lesson in union-busting outcomes?

    LOL@ union-busting.


    Detroit is a object lesson in Liberalism.Liberalism fails everywhere it is tried.

    How long have Democrats ran Detroit? 50 plus years???

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  69. needs fatal slaps:

    more peasant pedophile clones
    of molded/more white pookies for you to ignore...

    they are global ills too!!!

    In real life, Steven Demink didn't have children, a college degree or a lasting career. Online, prosecutors say, he presented himself as Dalton St. Clair, an attractive single father and psychologist — a fantasy image authorities say the Michigan man used to persuade mothers across the country to commit unspeakable acts on their children.

    Demink, 41, of Redford Township, preyed on single mothers for more than a year, prosecutors say, convincing them to sexually assault their children as a form of therapy. After pleading guilty Monday to six charges related to the sexual exploitation of children, Demink faces 15 years to life in prison when he is sentenced in June.



    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110301/ap_on_re_us/us_fake_psychologist_sex_abuse

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  70. pookies rule in all races globally

    see indonesian pookies here

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DzgxPe891-JQ&ei=FCttTarkHsqztwfbg-3QBQ&usg=AFQjCNGEyRPDPFaTIkUatRBaWD5gjudpbQ

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  71. Ernesto12:28 PM

    "but what about wingnuts... TeaBaggers...and other low-skill/low-info/low everythings?"

    They can troll black blogs and feign superiority. While not having a job, apparently.

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  72. Ernesto12:30 PM

    "Detroit is a object lesson in Liberalism.Liberalism fails everywhere it is tried."

    Yeah, I know the colored folk should have never migrated north from good ole conservative Mississippi, where conservatism triumphed all over the cotton fields.

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  73. Anonymous1:08 PM

    What's wrong with black people moving away from ghetto black people? I did it, and it's one of the best things I ever did for myself.

    It's not MY job to "educate" black people who don't think they are doing anything wrong by having out-of-wedlock children they cannot afford, playing loud filthy rap "music" at all hours, sagging pants, crime, declining property values (yes, some black people care about property values) and all the rest of the garbage that poor black people bring to any neighborhood. Get away from the poor negroes while your property is still worth something AND DON'T LOOK BACK. Don't let anybody guilt trip you with this "we gotta help alla our people". Poor, ghetto acting black people are not "my people" and I don't have a problem saying that.

    BTW, my parents were property owners so I know how to maintain property and how important it is to maintain your property if you want it to maintain its value.

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  74. Quote Anony"Well by all means, move your dull self to Detroit! But, be sure your life insureace is paid-up. IF you can get it, that is. (Because you might not be "experiencing life" too long)"

    No offense Annony, but no thanks. I wouldn't relocate to the USA for all the tea in China.

    My brother lives near Detroit in a town called East Lansing - I wouldn't move there either. He's hoping to move to Canada.

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  75. Anonymous1:26 PM

    Here's a kool story about poorer blacks moving on up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9y4iXAso4I&feature=related

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  76. hey nig kid:

    more on tiger and why hobama is blackish but will NEVER be black!
    just like shirley sherrod said!!!


    Hopelessly lost now, he just gaped up at me. Then he pulled his black clip-on tie from his sweater and said, helpfully, "My tie is black." Still wriggling on his brown mommy's lap, he went back to staring in confused wonderment at all the Negroes.
    Now, two months later, he has come up with an explanation. "They" are all brown because "they" are irresponsible with flammables. I know I need to nip this in the bud. But how on earth do you explain things as complicated as race and blackness to creatures who believe that the police will know when we need help because they all have baby monitors in their cars? They're so young; I'm still in the gooey, overprotective stage of motherhood wherein I shield them from knowing about crime, homelessness, war, rape, pedophilia and the horrors of capitalism. But I'm supposed to tell them that white people, their father's people, enslaved, raped, sold and Jim Crow'd us simply because we look burned all over? And I'm supposed to tell them now, when my 3-year-old daughter is still oblivious to the whole subject of race, that racism is far, far from over? Even if I wanted to tell them all this, I'm not sure where I'd start.

    If I'm honest, I know why. It's because I know they're not black. I am but they're not. They're biracial.

    I lived blackness. All they can do is study and perform blackness. My parents were Mississippi sharecroppers who became part of the Great Migration north. My great-grandfather, who lived well past 100 and was still kicking when I was a child, had been born a slave. His son, my grandfather, got a "Klan escort" out of Mississippi. I saw "Whites only" signs when we went visiting down south and remembered white cops coming to my A'int Mazelle's to "urge" her to teach her kin from up north in St. Louis "how to behave." Clueless, I hadn't yielded my place in line to whites at the country store. At my own home in Missouri I knew not to enter South St. Louis after dark, and I grew up sharing my World War II combat veteran father's bitterness at the racism of the Marine Corps. Segregation made black culture pervasive in our lives; the same oppression that so limited our options gave us all a common frame of reference. My kids can only study that in books.



    As much as blacks bemoan the "one drop rule," no one works harder to enforce it and keep it alive. See: blacks' attitude toward Tiger Woods. I thought he was as much a self-hating sellout as most blacks did with his "Cablinasian" routine. Then, I heard him say that he didn't consider himself solely black because it was an insult to his mother. That nearly blew a hole in my brain. He's absolutely right -- it is an insult to the mother who carried him, birthed him in agony and raised him. Why on earth should her Thai heritage count for nothing and his dad's black heritage count for everything? If my children ever self-identify as "white" I'll be crushed. That would be tantamount to saying all my love and sacrifice and devotion meant nothing. Mrs. Woods is not a brood mare and neither am I. If my kids end up identifying as "black" rather than white or biracial, I'll be secretly pleased. But in the end, if they can go toe to toe with me, they can consider themselves whatever they like.



    http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/feature/2007/03/05/kids

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCwQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.abcnews.com%2Fgeorge%2F2010%2F07%2Fshirley-sherrod-obama-is-not-someone-who-has-experienced-what-i-have-experienced-through-life.html&ei=30BtTbyeNpS4twe8h7DbBQ&usg=AFQjCNHrsYWN6ZKgM9QNxt0LIUiEvSs3pw

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  77. mellaneous2:45 PM

    You know Field if noone notices blackness and its all good on the race front why did Tiger Woods go to such lengths to make up a category for himself. After all he is simply half black and half white. The Caucasion part is further along the blood line.

    Its just proof positive that some folks really don't like themselves and some of that dislike is just the internalization of other folks dislike for all things black.

    Tiger figured out he would be a bit more popular if he hid his blackness. But as Field pointed out, he can't hide the obvious. No matter how many ways he says it he is still black. A rose by any other name is still a rose!

    When people like the racist guy on the thread, who is either starved for attention --like a poor abandoned child-- or a paid stooge, say that folks don't notice Tiger's blackness, its a safe bet that everything else they say is a lie as well.

    And many black folks admire Tiger's success but they dislike the fact that he disowns who he is, which many see is a slap in the face, since they don't have the luxury of faking it.

    And the truth is,most don't want to, but are proud of their blackness.

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  78. Anonymous3:05 PM

    with all this ranting it is clear you aint ha no job Tommy buceta lickin moron!

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  79. mellaneous3:10 PM

    I wrote about Tiger a little while ago for Black Agenda Report, want to read it here it go:)

    here is the link:
    http://blackagendareport.com/?q=node/10512

    some excerpts-

    Muhammad Ali is revered because he stood up for black folk and even for the embattled Vietnamese against whom this country was waging an illegal and murderous war. Football great Jim Brown, though widely discredited because of his mistreatment of women, was right nevertheless, when he said Woods should have spoken out. In his day, Brown could be counted on to take astand.

    So what do we want from Tiger? We want him to stand up andstop acting like he was put together by Buick, with Buick parts, and stopacting like being black and a minority in this country has nothing to do withhim. We want him just once to look out for the other guy, because while he isonly obligated to represent himself - and whoever is paying the big bucks -history smiles on those who reach out as well to help their fellow man

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  80. mell

    ditto

    see more on tiger here

    When Tiger was the victim of a racist attack as a student at Stanford University, he phoned the NAACP. I guess he thought the "C" stood for Cablinasian. Actually, it stands for "Colored". And, that color is BLACK! This comical moniker itself is so revealing of Tiger's eurocentrism and denial. "Ca" is for Caucasian. It appears first for emphasis and dominance, although it is the alleged heritage which is least visible in Tiger's skin. "Asian" appears in its entirety, as a tribute to his mother. Yet "bla" is hidden and incomplete, as a diminishing insult to the blood of his Black father, the golf coach who made Tiger who he is today, thus clearly the parent to which he owes his greatest debt.

    Likewise, millions of “multiracial” persons are Black when they are brutalized by traffic cops, degraded and harassed by department store security staffers, and dismissed by racist job interviewers. These are REALISTIC racial experiences 364 days a year!!! How dare those same persons decide that they will be beyond Black /closer to white only on the day they fill out census forms; a day that will haunt ALL Blacks, themselves included, forever!!!

    http://webspace.webring.com/people/rm/monicasass/RACIAL-LABELS-2.htm

    http://aliciabanks.xanga.com
    hold that tiger!

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  82. hobama evades race even more than tiger as hobama slays black fans....shame!!!!

    more from a former hobama nazi and yet another bm whom i revere and adore

    dr. mike dyson:

    I think that we should push the president. This president runs from race like a black man runs from a cop. What we have to do is ask Mr. Obama to stand up and use his bully pulpit to help us. He is loathe to speak about race.



    http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/michael-dyson-says-obama-runs-from-race-like-a-black-man-runs-from-a-cop/

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  84. anon 583:47 PM

    Tiger Woods can identify himslef ANYWAY he chooses.

    How Tiger identifies has nothing to do with me. It has nothing to do with any one, except him. Honestly, there are more important things for black people to think about: like the 72% out-of-wedlock birthrate for black children for starters. The one person Tiger owed anything to, his wife, he betrayed. Is this someone you really want on your side?

    Your desire to "claim" Tiger Woods says more about you than it does about him. Mr. Woods is not thinking about your black azz. Why are you thinking about him?

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  85. Anonymous3:49 PM

    SPC...how droll..you can repeat Glenn Beck nonsense. Here are some terms..
    Correlation is not necessarily causation.
    Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
    Simply...Beck if full of poo. His fake teacher schtick only fools the 'specials'..the rest of us see him for the bad imitation of an instructor he is.
    Then again, he could be hired at a christian kkkollege.
    You'd like to beleeverate that Liberalism was the cause...if so...show your proof. Beck doing the 'grave concerned edumacator' clowning on TV is not proof. Neither are pics of old buildings.

    Mold

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  87. assnon w/ 58 IQ:

    read again

    i think u missed the pts!

    i gladly NEVER claimed hobama or tiger

    and i never will

    u may have and keep each

    FORE x 2!!!!!!

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  88. Anonymous4:00 PM

    Wonder what the Palin OOW rate is? 100%? Where is your fauxtrage? Your taxes pay for DownsBaby and the spare. Yet...you wail about AfAms who aren't the offspring of a Governor. Who might not get free jobs....or political ads masquerading as talent shows.

    Overton Window again, AB? Keep it up...those wingnut welfare checks can be shut off with alarming quickness. Just ask the Mena-nites. Scaife unloaded them like they were useless slugs.
    Still, it's nice to know that, like AJones wite conspiracy paranoids, all roads lead to Obama. Fat...Michelle has an Organic garden. Sterile, Obama takes campaign contributions from chemical corps. Dateless, Obama has a secret plan to keep pudgy, smelly, paranoid, unemployable wite guys from hawt chicks. Bad movies, the Obama crew allows conservatards to make really Razzie stinkers.
    Funny...pretty much your entire pout is that Obama is a right-of-centre R politician. Which surprised no one from Chicago...or the Left. Seems we believed him when he said he wasn't one.
    And the bloggers noted this before he ran.
    Villagers missed it, but they only worry about who gets invited to Cokie and Andrea's parties. Wingnuts missed it...but they always miss. Ever since they were Left Behind in Grade Nine.
    AfAms knew it..and voted for him as DownBabyGranny Sarey and Rentboy McCain were far, far worse. Besides, it was fun watching racist scum like Addison Graves Wilson and George Allen fume.

    Mold

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  89. Mold, I would concur with your assessment - though I would say that Obama is a typical DLC moderate technocrat, he's not going to rock the boat or piss off corporate America if the political calculus isn't on his side (i.e. he wasn't going to speak out on the WI issue until he was damn sure the GOP had full overreached and the country wouldn't tar and feather him as a 'liberal socialist')

    Not great, but I wasn't expecting some mau-mau firebrand who was going to put a foot in corporate America's collective asses. John Edwards and his baby momma drama took care of that.

    Also, most hard line liberals and well received DNC stalwarts are rather easy to pick off the roaches with Raid.

    But to be frank - its not his job to lead the charge on revolutionary change (I mean in the sense of changing the system at its core - not violence). That's the people's job. Obama has certainly failed us - but more importantly, we failed ourselves.

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  91. hey lack:


    "Not great, but I wasn't expecting some mau-mau firebrand who was going to put a foot in corporate America's collective asses. John Edwards and his baby momma drama took care of that."

    who was expecting such?????
    who????

    hobama failed the LOWEST PREZ bar in history...shame!!!!!

    and he made EVERY ill worse!

    your perpetual references to dreams that no one EVER had will NEVER make hobama less of a blackish GLOBAL nightmare!!!

    ask the libyans today!



    http://www.infowars.com/obama-encircles-us-war-machine-around-libya/

    http://www.infowars.com/chavez-u-s-distorting-situation-in-libya-to-justify-an-invasion/

    http://www.infowars.com/us-tightens-military-grip-on-gaddafi/

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  92. hobama lied!!!!!

    he did not do anything he promised

    his bailouts made all worse etc

    shame that you would rather pretend he is being held to some nonexistent dreams than admit his real self defined nightmares!!!

    http://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2010/01/20/obamas-broken-promises/

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  93. lack:

    there is NOTHING black about that kenyan hobama's policies...

    so why the racist mau mau refs???

    huh????

    cc that offensive bs to anti-africom activists in africa!

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  94. who lack????

    like hobama, u lie!!!

    Reed continues his scurrilously- Fox News like -attacks against progressives who speak truth to power, by misleading whites liberals and Blacks folks into thinking that progressives want Obama to sport a black beret, sunglasses, and throw a black leather gloved first in the air on national TV. What we have been saying over and over again, is that President Obama should use the elegant rhetoric that got him elected President, to honestly explain to America how the disparity between rich and power in our country is now equal to Great Depression era levels and how one percent of the population controls 40 percent of the wealth while the rich are demanding more! But I guess the best we can do is allow President Obama to waste away his Presidency by continuing to be the night watchmen of the plutocrats who sank The United State’s of America into the icy sea, while they speed off ( with all the money) aboard a luxurious yacht purchased from The United State’s Treasury.


    http://thespookwhosatbythedoor.blogspot.com/2010/12/ishmael-reed-fights-real-change-by.html

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  95. Hey AB - I would say "Did you bother to read what I wrote?" but this is you, so the answer is 'no'. I agree that Obama is a corporatist. Do I need to be any clearer? Do I need to finger-paint it on cave wall for you?

    Until you start thinking clearly, leave me alone. Grown folks are talking.

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  96. Anonymous6:11 PM

    pretty much your entire pout is that Obama is a right-of-centre R politician.

    mold


    Only in the world of Liberal is obama right of center.


    Speaking of Beck,

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gold-extends-gains-on-geopolitical-fears-2011-02-28


    Also mold, its pretty f'n sick of you to make fun of babies with down's syndrome.

    Once again,we see just how classless and miserable Liberals are.

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  97. so why the racist mau mau refs???

    Such a student of Black History, and you don't know what this mean. Mau-mau, in the common speak amongst activists are loud angry people who usually fail miserable at making real change. They're more interesting in making noise and causing a ruckus than doing anything positive. Its a reference to Thomas Wolfe's 1970's article about how many so-called activists used white guilt to sucker guilty rich liberals out of money. In other words, they're hucksters and phonies.

    Even Spike Lee referenced this in 'Bamboozled'.

    My girlfriend's family is from the continent - so I am well aware of the original origin of mau-mau the Biafra movement and other liberation struggles.

    End of of lesson for the day. Class dismissed.

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  98. "Your desire to "claim" Tiger Woods says more about you than it does about him. Mr. Woods is not thinking about your black azz. Why are you thinking about him?"

    Of course he isn't. I am not blond; I don't have fake breasts; and I am not a waitress. Yes, I guess that pretty much cancels me out. ;)

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  99. Anonymous7:05 PM

    Of course he isn't. I am not blond; I don't have fake breasts; and I am not a waitress. Yes, I guess that pretty much cancels me out. ;)



    You mean your breasts are real??? :)

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  100. Hello again you all it was always plain that Tiger had issues, how can he look at his brothers and sister and say he is not Black. He got that mess from his dad whose first wife he could not handle and left a bad taste in his mouth. He is what his dad made him, i remember him on real people back in the day when he was about 4 years old. We sell ourselves short a lot of them dope boys could be accountants , chemists etc...what we are what skills we have are stolen and repackaged on a daily basis.I am reminded of the movie Undercover Brother when all the Black folk were eating the generals fried chicken and feeling assimilated. Hell how could we ever integrate into a social structure when we were not equal in the first place.Now folks are getting their skin lightened , do not want to be Black no more . Hell we were better off when we were colored. We been devided and conquered and do not even realize it.

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  101. anon 589:46 AM

    On the 2010 census, "multiracial" people (like Tiger Woods) are allowed to claim ALL of who they are by checking as many boxes (regarding race and/or ethnicity) as applies to them. GET USED TO IT.

    Tiger Wood's mother is a Thai woman. SHE IS ASIAN. She is not black. Neither is Tiger Woods. He has NEVER denied that he has SOME black in him but he is 50% ASIAN. How could Tiger Woods be "black"?

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  102. lac:

    you are the most arrogantly ignorant intellectually dishonest.

    you are a racist fool to try to negate the african context of your slurs and how interculturally incompeten you are to feign their complete irrelevancy with the gray hobama...

    shame!!!

    we see u u stupid mf!

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  103. lack:

    so have your african girl review the racist insane ignorant boyish bs u just posted.

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  104. uneducated amoral lying reaching shameless lack:

    again

    what does your racist ref ro the mau maus have to do with that racist hobama????

    one must hate blacks to love hobama...and u prove that daily fool!

    In a few weeks, a group of quiet, dignified elderly men and women will arrive in London to explain how the forces of the British state crushed their testicles or breasts with pliers. It was part of a deliberate policy of breaking a civilian population who we regarded as "baboons", "barbarians" and "terrorists".


    They will come bearing the story of how Britain invaded a country, stole its land, and imprisoned an entire civilian population in detention camps – and they ask only for justice, after all this time.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-we-owe-it-to-do-right-by-the-kenyan-victims-of-british-brutality-1692507.html

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  105. lacking education and argument:

    spike lee was making a comical ref to racist clowns like u

    again, slooooooooooowly:

    what does that have to do with YOUR ahistorical arrogantly ignorant racist bs about hobama????

    again

    what does your racist ref ro the mau maus have to do with that racist hobama????

    one must hate blacks to love hobama...and u prove that daily fool!

    In a few weeks, a group of quiet, dignified elderly men and women will arrive in London to explain how the forces of the British state crushed their testicles or breasts with pliers. It was part of a deliberate policy of breaking a civilian population who we regarded as "baboons", "barbarians" and "terrorists".


    They will come bearing the story of how Britain invaded a country, stole its land, and imprisoned an entire civilian population in detention camps – and they ask only for justice, after all this time.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-we-owe-it-to-do-right-by-the-kenyan-victims-of-british-brutality-1692507.html

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