"Yo, Junior, what are you doing?" That was one of Philly's finest to a young man who has been all over the news in my fair city for openly packing heat on a Philly street. Mr. Fiorino taped the entire encounter and Philly's finest didn't come out looking so good.
Sadly, they (the po po) weren't familiar with Philly's law as it relates to concealed weapons on city streets. (Yes, I know it's confusing and a little vague, but a police officer, of all people, should be familiar with it. You can carry openly if you have a license to do so.)
"On a mild February afternoon, Fiorino, 25, decided to walk to an AutoZone on Frankford Avenue in Northeast Philly with the .40-caliber Glock he legally owns holstered in plain view on his left hip. His stroll ended when someone called out from behind: "Yo, Junior, what are you doing?"
Fiorino wheeled and saw Sgt. Michael Dougherty aiming a handgun at him.
What happened next would be hard to believe, except that Fiorino audio-recorded all of it: a tense, profanity-laced, 40-minute encounter with cops who told him that what he was doing - openly carrying a gun on the city's streets - was against the law.
"Do you know you can't openly carry here in Philadelphia?" Dougherty asked, according to the YouTube clip."Yes, you can, if you have a license to carry firearms," Fiorino said. "It's Directive 137. It's your own internal directive."
The cops, department officials later admitted, were wrong. They didn't know that a person who has a license to carry a firearm can openly carry it in the city.
But the story doesn't end there. How could it?
After Fiorino posted his recordings on YouTube, they went viral. Members of pro-firearms forums on the Web took a particular interest in the incident.
The Police Department heard about the YouTube clips. A new investigation was launched, and last month the District Attorney's Office decided to charge Fiorino with reckless endangerment and disorderly conduct because, a spokeswoman said, he refused to cooperate with police.
Fiorino said he plans to sue the city whenever his criminal case is resolved.
Police spokesman Lt. Ray Evers said the department believes that Fiorino wanted to get into a confrontation with cops, that he wanted to see them lose their cool so he later could file a lawsuit.
Or, as one cop was overheard saying on the YouTube recording: "He set us the f--- up, that's what the f--- he did."
Terrified to be powerless
Fiorino, an IT worker who lives in Montgomery County, grew up in Feltonville.
A handful of his friends fell victim to random crimes over the years - a mugging here, a beatdown there, the kind of stuff that happens all the time in a big city.
It was enough to make him think about being able to protect himself if he ever ran into trouble. "It would be terrifying to me to be powerless," he said.
So, about a year ago, Fiorino said, he got a firearms license and began openly carrying his .40-caliber Glock.
"I did research for quite a few years leading up to making a decision to carry," he said. "I was ready to take on the responsibility."
His gun went with him everywhere - to the store, you name it.
After he began carrying, Fiorino said, he was stopped a handful of times by cops in Montgomery County and other parts of the state. The encounters were civil and quick, he said, and usually ended when an officer checked out his firearms license.
He also had encounters with Philadelphia cops last year near the Philadelphia Museum of Art and on South Street.
"Both times they told me what I was doing was illegal," he said. "They patted me down and said, 'We don't care what you consent to.'
"The second time, they did an official confiscation, and it took me five months to get back my gun." [More]
Sadly, they (the po po) weren't familiar with Philly's law as it relates to concealed weapons on city streets. (Yes, I know it's confusing and a little vague, but a police officer, of all people, should be familiar with it. You can carry openly if you have a license to do so.)
"On a mild February afternoon, Fiorino, 25, decided to walk to an AutoZone on Frankford Avenue in Northeast Philly with the .40-caliber Glock he legally owns holstered in plain view on his left hip. His stroll ended when someone called out from behind: "Yo, Junior, what are you doing?"
Fiorino wheeled and saw Sgt. Michael Dougherty aiming a handgun at him.
What happened next would be hard to believe, except that Fiorino audio-recorded all of it: a tense, profanity-laced, 40-minute encounter with cops who told him that what he was doing - openly carrying a gun on the city's streets - was against the law.
"Do you know you can't openly carry here in Philadelphia?" Dougherty asked, according to the YouTube clip."Yes, you can, if you have a license to carry firearms," Fiorino said. "It's Directive 137. It's your own internal directive."
The cops, department officials later admitted, were wrong. They didn't know that a person who has a license to carry a firearm can openly carry it in the city.
But the story doesn't end there. How could it?
After Fiorino posted his recordings on YouTube, they went viral. Members of pro-firearms forums on the Web took a particular interest in the incident.
The Police Department heard about the YouTube clips. A new investigation was launched, and last month the District Attorney's Office decided to charge Fiorino with reckless endangerment and disorderly conduct because, a spokeswoman said, he refused to cooperate with police.
Fiorino said he plans to sue the city whenever his criminal case is resolved.
Police spokesman Lt. Ray Evers said the department believes that Fiorino wanted to get into a confrontation with cops, that he wanted to see them lose their cool so he later could file a lawsuit.
Or, as one cop was overheard saying on the YouTube recording: "He set us the f--- up, that's what the f--- he did."
Terrified to be powerless
Fiorino, an IT worker who lives in Montgomery County, grew up in Feltonville.
A handful of his friends fell victim to random crimes over the years - a mugging here, a beatdown there, the kind of stuff that happens all the time in a big city.
It was enough to make him think about being able to protect himself if he ever ran into trouble. "It would be terrifying to me to be powerless," he said.
So, about a year ago, Fiorino said, he got a firearms license and began openly carrying his .40-caliber Glock.
"I did research for quite a few years leading up to making a decision to carry," he said. "I was ready to take on the responsibility."
His gun went with him everywhere - to the store, you name it.
After he began carrying, Fiorino said, he was stopped a handful of times by cops in Montgomery County and other parts of the state. The encounters were civil and quick, he said, and usually ended when an officer checked out his firearms license.
He also had encounters with Philadelphia cops last year near the Philadelphia Museum of Art and on South Street.
"Both times they told me what I was doing was illegal," he said. "They patted me down and said, 'We don't care what you consent to.'
"The second time, they did an official confiscation, and it took me five months to get back my gun." [More]
Mr. Fiorino, your ass is lucky to be alive. And why were you "terrified to be powerless"? Have you ever been a victim of a crime? I bet not. Yes, you can openly carry in Philly, but you must seriously have a death wish to do some dumb s&^% like that. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you have to do it. Look, I know you want to be a hero to the NRA crowd, so you leave home with your tape recorder running while looking for an incident. I am glad you have that luxury, but just remember, cops here have lost a few of their own, and they tend to be a little itchy with the trigger. So you might want to save your little social experiment for town where there are less killings every year.
The next time you go to the corner store conceal your weapon and don't go thinking you are Clint Eastwood playing out some damn Spaghetti Western. You recorded it all on tape, but that tape recorder wouldn't have stopped Michael Dougherty's bullet from putting a hole in your chest.
Oh well "Junior", you are going to learn the hard way how law enforcement works here. They didn't charge you with a crime for having your licensed firearm, but now you might have to fight that little reckless endangerment charged they just slapped on you.
That's the man for you ,"Junior", they just don't like you to show them up.
Don't know how I feel bout this one. Though I'm not big on firearms I don't like the fact our "rural" counterparts can have an arsenal while us "urban" folk have to jump over the moon for the same right. I'm a youngest child, if one gets to do something we all do or none of us does.
ReplyDelete"I don't like the fact our "rural" counterparts can have an arsenal while us "urban" folk have to jump over the moon for the same right"
ReplyDeleteBlame those urban politicians you vote for.Theypass laws and ordinances that forbid you from having your "arsenal".
Don't know how I feel bout this one. Though I'm not big on firearms I don't like the fact our "rural" counterparts can have an arsenal while us "urban" folk have to jump over the moon for the same right. I'm a youngest child, if one gets to do something we all do or none of us does.
ReplyDeleteI'm not a big fan of gun control laws, either. I understand the basic premise of them, but in practice, they only serve to disarm people other than law enforcement who have legitimate reason to own a firearm and fuel black market trades of firearms.
On the other hand, I'm not a big fan of open carry, either. Some people get off intimidating others with an openly shown. In other cases, it's a big, juicy bullseye for those who are intent on offing those who seem most poised to stop them in a hostage/gunfight scenario.
BTW, I hate to drag the spectre of white privilege into the argument, but I happened to listen to the audio recording of the entire situation. Would the cop in the audio have tolerated back talk and "why do you have a firearm pointed at me?" if Mr. Fiorano was Mr. Diontaye Simmons from North Philly? How long would it have been before the cop decided to discharge his weapon into Mr. Simmons' cranial region, "in fear of his life"?
Speak the truth and you get attacked.
ReplyDeleteFrom Psychology Today--
Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women?
The only thing I can think of that might potentially explain the lower average level of physical attractiveness among black women is testosterone. Africans on average have higher levels of testosterone than other races, and testosterone, being an androgen (male hormone), affects the physical attractiveness of men and women differently. Men with higher levels of testosterone have more masculine features and are therefore more physically attractive. In contrast, women with higher levels of testosterone also have more masculine features and are therefore less physically attractive.
It is very interesting to note that, even though black women are objectively less physically attractive than other women, black women (and men) subjectively consider themselves to be far more physically attractive than others. In Wave III, Add Health asks its respondents to rate their own physical attractiveness subjectively on the following four-point scale: 1 = not at all, 2 = slightly, 3 = moderately, 4 = very. As you can see in the following graphs, both black women and black men rate themselves to be far more physically attractive than individuals of other races.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3412493
I think another thing that makes black women unattractive is they tend to talk out the side of they neck.
Imagine having to go home to queenie everynight...........
And yes.....Because it spoke the truth PT had to delete the post sp i had to link it here.
Not writin' bout the blackie who came out and the cracker who came out today? A DL bro like yourself should be all over that shyte.
ReplyDeleteThe SC just made all fascism easier today.
ReplyDeleteSouth Park Conservatives said...
ReplyDeleteImagine having to go home to queenie everynight...........
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Given that we BOTH have penis every night, I figured that would make us cool due to the commonality and all.
Nahmean, hillbilly homie?
As for the "article" you posted, Black women have the highest self esteem of ALL women as well we should.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
And I'm CLEARLY pro gun!
"Not writin' bout the blackie who came out and the cracker who came out today? A DL bro like yourself should be all over that shyte."
ReplyDeleteS.T.U.P.I.D.
Not writin' bout the blackie who came out and the cracker who came out today? A DL bro like yourself should be all over that shyte."
ReplyDeleteYes, shout out to Don Lemon for coming out. That was FNB.
Hi5ving Mack @ 9:09 PM.
SPC, I think a sister dissed you once. Just a thought.;)
mack lyons wrote on the previous post:
ReplyDeleteOil drilled from American oil wells is not, and will not be earmarked solely for American consumption.
Oil, like money, is fungible. Thus, it's not overly important where a barrel of Texas crude goes. But it does matter that Americans are getting paid to find it, drill for it, pump it, refine it and sell it.
It's very simple -- if we drill more here, we import less. Don't you wish it were that easy to bring auto manufacturing back to the US?
It's going on the open market, where the Chinese, Indians and any other national interest can purchase it.
Yeah, well even though your statement is factually correct, you might want to look into the actual flows of crude oil. There are plenty of oil producing nations that send NO oil to the US. And since we are net consumers, we don't export very much of our domestic oil.
At best, it'll put a next-to-insignificant dent in US fuel prices.
Lowering prices is not the primary objective of producing more oil domestically. The world consumers about 85 million barrels of oil per day.
Total production has to exceed 85 million barrels by at least 2 million before the world would see a noticeable drop in prices.
But the real bottleneck is in refining capacity. We can have an oil glut, but still see higher gasoline prices because the world's refining capacity is at its peak.
At worse, the effect is totally nonexistant.
Nonsense. If daily US production went from 9 million barrels to 10 million barrels, thereby reducing imports by a million barrels a day, we would pump $100 million dollars a day into OUR economy, instead of sending that money to a foreign economy.
It's like building cars. I hope you're bright enough to know that building a million more cars in the US, instead of importing a million Volkswagens, is the better choice.
You want to drop the price of gas? Crack down on Wall Street speculation that keeps the price of gas at record highs.
More nonsense from the peanut gallery. Speculators bet on prices going up AND down. However, if the commodity exchange were to increase margin requirements, we would see less volatility in oil prices. But no matter what, the price of oil will continue to go UP and DOWN.
But Obama has said he wants the price of oil to go way up, way up. But he wanted to raise the price artificially -- with taxes, to put money in the hands of politicians, in the same way they've gotten their hands on tobacco tax money.
Dr.Queen said...
ReplyDeleteGiven that we BOTH have penis every night,
You have a penis?Well hells bells, that explains queen.
South Park Conservatives said...
ReplyDeleteYou have a penis?Well hells bells, that explains queen.
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And I'm sure "have" FAR more then you.
Fiorino, the Glock-head, was looking for trouble and he found it.
ReplyDeleteA 40-minute debate? He's an idiot. Was he thinking he could provoke the cops into killing him? Yeah, maybe a family member might benefit from a lawsuit naming the city as the responsible party, but winning wouldn't do anything for Fiorino.
He said he studied the handgun laws for years. Sure. How about an hour. He's 25.
If he had any sense, he'd stay out of bad neighborhoods at night, and if possible, during the day too. That makes carrying a gun unnecessary.
Of course he would have had no problems if he had had a license to carry a CONCEALED weapon and done so.
Instead, the moron wanted to flash it around so everyone would see it. Not smart, as he is now learning.
Was Mumia licensed to carry that handgun he used to kill Officer Faulkner?
South Park Conservatives said...
ReplyDeleteYou have a penis?Well hells bells, that explains queen.
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And I'm sure "have" FAR more then you.
OK and this is winning to you, you have a bigger penis then SPC does, yet you claim you are a woman. Are you a transgender or he-she?
Explains a lot about you it really does.
Last Thursday evening a petite woman was closing her beauty salon when a man got out of a car ran up to her put a gun in her back announced a holdup and when she turned around shot her in the chest. Buuuut she had been trained in the use of and had a legal gun in her purse which she was able to get out and shoot him in a testicle and both feet as he fled.Imagine his surprise! Pardon me for gloating but it just doesn't get any better than that! LOL! Now everyone is calling her a hero and applauding her actions.
ReplyDeleteSo today this senator Albita Rivera goes on a crazy media tour saying that what the woman did was wrong! So we're supposed to let these criminals rob, shoot and kill us?
Last weekend 18 people were assassinated in San Juan alone! The police here just cannot keep up with the crime wave. It's like a war zone here. SomI say a gun in every home equals peace of mind!
As for "Junior" well, he went out looking for trouble and he found it!
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteSouth Park Conservatives said...
You have a penis?Well hells bells, that explains queen.
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And I'm sure "have" FAR more then you.
OK and this is winning to you, you have a bigger penis then SPC does, yet you claim you are a woman. Are you a transgender or he-she?
Explains a lot about you it really does.
10:40 PM
Must be those higher mutation loads in black women.
PilotX said...
ReplyDelete"Your just a lowlife hoodrat"
wow, this ignorant troll hasn't figured out how to properly use YOUR yet?
Field, I leave and the stupid continues.
8:47 PM
And you return and think everyone who already schooled you in this very bit of grammer has either left or forgotten. Typical liberal, can't hang with the content, it is over your head, so then try and discredit the source with something assinine. Well "YOUR" mistaken, we can still see your content even with the attempted distraction.
South Park Conservatives said...
ReplyDeleteImagine having to go home to queenie everynight...........
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Given that we BOTH have penis every night, I figured that would make us cool due to the commonality and all.
Nahmean, hillbilly homie?
As for the "article" you posted, Black women have the highest self esteem of ALL women as well we should.
No actually unfortunately it is the lowest. Self esteem would come with quiet grace, elagance and self confidence. It sure as hell would not come with the attributes you have. Loud, obnoxious, vicious, antagonistic, bitchy, violent, argumentative, unable to deal with things always blaming someone else for personal actions...another words your a total ghetto nasty bitch and angry nasty one at that.
No actually unfortunately it is the lowest. Self esteem would come with quiet grace, elagance and self confidence. It sure as hell would not come with the attributes you have. Loud, obnoxious, vicious, antagonistic, bitchy, violent, argumentative, unable to deal with things always blaming someone else for personal actions...another words your a total ghetto nasty bitch and angry nasty one at that.
ReplyDelete10:54 PManon wit sense
ya know queefkim if eye were u ide take a good look and ax myself wtf? eye mean errybody see thru ur stoooopid lies bloviations and exaggerations u aint nuttin but a qoohole idgit imbecile! so u need to look in the mirror take some adhesive remover to remove that gawdsawful piss smelling weavewig and weave cap and address those burrs queefkim seriously start off wit the burrs then work on yer grammar sweetie pie tomorrow welle give u another lesson in an attribute ure sorely lacking class chump!
field negro ude think a guy like u an attorney would be more supportive of this guys rights but more then anything u point out his stupidity eye wonder why if the aclu decided to advocate for this fella would u change ur mind?
ReplyDeletemuah muah muah muah muah mauh muah muah
ReplyDeleteWhat's up psycho, stalking, crack licking bitch?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteNo actually unfortunately it is the lowest. Self esteem would come with quiet grace, elagance and self confidence. It sure as hell would not come with the attributes you have. Loud, obnoxious, vicious, antagonistic, bitchy, violent, argumentative, unable to deal with things always blaming someone else for personal actions...another words your a total ghetto nasty bitch and angry nasty one at that.
10:54 PManon wit sense
ya know queefkim if eye were u ide take a good look and ax myself wtf? eye mean errybody see thru ur stoooopid lies bloviations and exaggerations u aint nuttin but a qoohole idgit imbecile! so u need to look in the mirror take some adhesive remover to remove that gawdsawful piss smelling weavewig and weave cap and address those burrs queefkim seriously start off wit the burrs then work on yer grammar sweetie pie tomorrow welle give u another lesson in an attribute ure sorely lacking class chump!
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You know it takes a seriously crazy bitch to talk shit then repond to your own posts.
PSYCHO STALKING BITCH!!!!
Muah!
And to the anon so concered about me responing to this crazy bitch, here's a saying for you:
ReplyDelete"Don't start nothin', won't be nothin'.
And clearly the ass licker enjoys the attention.
I see queen's got the testosterone flowing so i will bid a good night to her and her big penis:)
ReplyDeleteAnd goodnight to you too tweezer boy!
ReplyDeleteBlogger South Park Conservatives said...
ReplyDeleteSpeak the truth and you get attacked.
From Psychology Today--
Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women?
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This is funny on so many levels. Perhaps, because the author of this article is Japanese. Apparently, Satoshi Kanazawa has issues with people of African decent. He feels they are not fit to live. So much so that his articles have appeared on Stormfront and Vangard. Sounds like Satoshi is suffering from some serious, internalized racism. I don't know why he chose to attack black women. Could it be that they have their own perception of beauty- instead of a European ideal? Or, is it some kind of projection going on? After all, Asian men are not so desirable. Living in London, he has probably been rejected. However, it appears that he is a believer in racist stereotypes-and- is using bogus science to perpetuate them. P. Z. Meyers an evolutionary biologist at the University of Minnesota, has called Kanazawa "the great idiot of social science."
By the way Psychology Today has scrubbed its site. Don't let them get away with this!
This is funny on so many levels. Perhaps, because the author of this article is Japanese. Apparently, Satoshi Kanazawa has issues with people of African decent. He feels they are not fit to live. So much so that his articles have appeared on Stormfront and Vangard. Sounds like Satoshi is suffering from some serious, internalized racism. I don't know why he chose to attack black women. Could it be that they have their own perception of beauty- instead of a European ideal? Or, is it some kind of projection going on? After all, Asian men are not so desirable.
ReplyDeleteOh, I see and HE is the racist.
who what did YOU say
"is a believer in racist stereotypes-and- is using bogus science to perpetuate them"
He say me no wan mud guppy, me like pwetty small light nice smellin women..you ugggllly you go home now I know dat not your real hair my sister put weave on you in her shop..go home now.
Dr.Queen said...
ReplyDeleteAnd to the anon so concered about me responing to this crazy bitch, here's a saying for you:
"Don't start nothin', won't be nothin'.
And clearly the ass licker enjoys the attention.
11:25 PM
Ah the angry black ghetto thing speaks. No way this creature has an education. I know she is on welfare and has about 12 kids all named leroy. Don't worry when she calls them, no one gets confused, she just uses they last names.
"Mr. Fiorino, your ass is lucky to be alive."
ReplyDeleteHis ass was lucky it wasn't black. Fiorino would have been a dead duck, shoot first no questions ask. And that's how I just knew he wasn't black.
Also, I have a problem with the average Joe Blow walking around with a loaded firearm. I hate guns period, they can do more harm than good for the average gun owner, especially inside their homes. Furthermore, I don't see how walking around with an exposed firearm is going to protect you, is that suppose to scare the bad guys away? Oh Really? And at least conceal the weapon, why should other people have to feel uncomfortable in a public place knowing they're at your mental mercy while things could easily turn into the wild wild west?
I know for a fact I don't ever want to own a gun. People drive so stupid where I live, I'm liable to show it to somebody in traffic and get my ass in trouble.
Btw Field, have you ever heard about this racist crap during the 2009 Obama inauguration? "Drunken Negro Head Cookies: The cookies depict black faces with bloodshot eyes and the usual stereotypical features (over-sized lips and noses)". The baker store owner saw nothing wrong with them. Typical.
Be sure to watch the video below the article.
http://www.blippitt.com/drunken-negro-head-cookies-offensive-marketing-at-its-worst/
"Oil, like money, is fungible. Thus, it's not overly important where a barrel of Texas crude goes. But it does matter that Americans are getting paid to find it, drill for it, pump it, refine it and sell it.
ReplyDeleteIt's very simple -- if we drill more here, we import less. Don't you wish it were that easy to bring auto manufacturing back to the US?"
In regards to job creation, it might. As for lowering gas prices? Not so much. As I said, burst the speculation bubble down on Wall Street, so per-barrel prices of crude plummet from $100+/barrel to $30-$40 per.
"if we drill more here, we import less"? Aside from the job creation aspects of increased US oil production, how is that going to affect how much goods we import from China, et al?
"Yeah, well even though your statement is factually correct, you might want to look into the actual flows of crude oil. There are plenty of oil producing nations that send NO oil to the US. And since we are net consumers, we don't export very much of our domestic oil."
I'm reading data on crude oil and petroleum-based product exports from the US Energy Information Administration. So far, Canada is the only country with figures listed for crude oil exports, at 847,000 barrels per month for Feb. 2011.
"Lowering prices is not the primary objective of producing more oil domestically. The world consumers about 85 million barrels of oil per day. "
The "Drill Baby Drill" crowd linked raising oil production to lowering gas prices. If lowering gas prices isn't the objective of increased oil production, does that mean the "Drill Baby Drill" crowd knows fuck-all about what they're talking about, or are they simply packaging this to a general public, hoping they'll associate more drilling with lower prices at the pump?
"Nonsense. If daily US production went from 9 million barrels to 10 million barrels, thereby reducing imports by a million barrels a day, we would pump $100 million dollars a day into OUR economy, instead of sending that money to a foreign economy."
Technically speaking, we pump way more money than that per day into foreign economies with military spending, but that's beside the point. Seeing an extra $100 million/day directed towards our economy is a good thing, but it still doesn't address how to lower the price of fuel. And farther down the road, you get to balance the extra influx of revenue with the raised environmental costs from increased drilling.
"It's like building cars. I hope you're bright enough to know that building a million more cars in the US, instead of importing a million Volkswagens, is the better choice."
ReplyDeleteFrom the average American's POV, yes. From the POV of an automaker looking to cut costs and increase profits by building their vehicles in locales offering cheap labor? Not so much. Unless the locale happens to be a southeastern "right to work" state that's willing to shower the company in millions of dollars worth of tax cuts. But building VWs in Pueblo and shipping them into the US courtesy of NAFTA may still be cheaper than building VWs in Tennessee with a labor force largely sourced from temporary labor agencies.
"More nonsense from the peanut gallery. Speculators bet on prices going up AND down. However, if the commodity exchange were to increase margin requirements, we would see less volatility in oil prices. But no matter what, the price of oil will continue to go UP and DOWN.
You may see something that will curb excessive speculation: naturalresourcereport.com/2011/05/wyden-targets-oil-speculators/
But Obama has said he wants the price of oil to go way up, way up. But he wanted to raise the price artificially -- with taxes, to put money in the hands of politicians, in the same way they've gotten their hands on tobacco tax money."
Do you have a link for this? I recall some talk about adding $1-$2 in taxes on fuel to pay presumably for repairing road infrastructure and possibly funding rail and bus transport, but I figured that plan was essentially DOA, given most Americans' hyper-reflexivity towards resisting tax increases.
"This is funny on so many levels. Perhaps, because the author of this article is Japanese. Apparently, Satoshi Kanazawa has issues with people of African decent. He feels they are not fit to live. So much so that his articles have appeared on Stormfront and Vangard. Sounds like Satoshi is suffering from some serious, internalized racism."
I wouldn't be surprised. He comes from a homogenous nation that indulges in rank xenophobia. Foreigners are treated warmly as long as they spend their money and leave. Problems come up when they attempt to integrate themselves into Japanese society, which with them being "not Japanese", well....
The great thing about the US is that practically anyone can become an American. It's a national identity that (most times) transcends ethnic backgrounds. It's something you can't do in Japan. Being "Japanese" is as much of a racial concept as it is a national one, so outsiders have no choice but to stay outside, generally speaking. And it gets even more complicated when you have mixed offspring...
"He say me no wan mud guppy, me like pwetty small light nice smellin women..you ugggllly you go home now I know dat not your real hair my sister put weave on you in her shop..go home now."
I wonder if at some point Kanazawa got shot down by a sistah and had to live through the indignity of seeing his female counterparts pass him up for black and white guys? And since veiled Asian racism towards whites isn't exactly in vogue nowadays, he had to settle for picking on blacks?
"His ass was lucky it wasn't black. Fiorino would have been a dead duck, shoot first no questions ask. And that's how I just knew he wasn't black."
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"Btw Field, have you ever heard about this racist crap during the 2009 Obama inauguration? "Drunken Negro Head Cookies: The cookies depict black faces with bloodshot eyes and the usual stereotypical features (over-sized lips and noses)". The baker store owner saw nothing wrong with them. Typical."
Amazing the lengths some people will go to conceal their bigotry so they can say what they feel about [add ethnicity here] without running the risk of being called "racist".
Once upon a time, when a white guy didn't like Negros, he'd call them "niggers" and just said how he felt about them, without shame. Ugly, but honest.
Today? Code-words, dog whistles and bigots bending themselves into pretzels coming up with new ways to call black folk "niggers" without actually using the word.
I bet the cookies tasted like shit.
And Dr. Q, sis, you really should ignore them. It's not about you, they just want to provoke anyone who's willing to entertain their foolishness. Don't give them that power.
ReplyDeleteAs for the South Park Pervert, that sounds like something he got off a Stormfront KKK website, it's akin to their theory on black people equals low intelligence. Pay him no mind. He's lacking testosterone himself, I doubt he even knows what it is, much less how to spot traits of it in a woman.
Mack, did you see the video below the article? He "apologizes" but he still sees nothing wrong. Amazing.
ReplyDeleteFN:
ReplyDeleteWe expect you to replace Ashley C.(with all due respect) with Carlos Santana as Field Negro...Day for his righteous indignation and condemnation re anti-immigration legislation in Ariz and Georgia.
That cop is a moron. Field, I don't buy that "they're paranoid because cops are droppin left and right" line for a second. All those shootings were 2 to 3 years ago, boo hoo, get over it and use sound judgement plz. This guy is casually buying something at Autozone. He's clearly not engaged in a fucking robbery. And yet Officer Dipshit decides to aim at dude's medulla oblongata like he's taken a child hostage? Wha?
ReplyDeleteI wish I could say the part about him catching a bullshit charge for exposing this violation of his rights surprises me, but....nope. This is common now. It doesn't seem to matter if you catch a cop on tape tazering your infant child, you can expect official reprimand from The Man. How dare you attempt to hold your armed police accountable. The watchmen must not be watched by the unwashed masses.
Yeah, I'm mad lol.
"As for the South Park Pervert, that sounds like something he got off a Stormfront KKK website, it's akin to their theory on black people equals low intelligence"
ReplyDeleteYep!
La~Audio, I remember that story.
Swiff, that's how the po po rolls here.:)
I co-sign with what some others have said: why was he walking around Northeast Philly like he is Clint Eastwood or something? Dude was looking for trouble. He has a history.
But, not to worry, he will be in Fox later this week. :)
If possible Fiorino should sue the police and DA. The charges against him are obviously b/c he showed them up.
ReplyDeleteThat said although I admire his knowledge of the law and willingness to challenge unlawful authority he could very well have done all that while obeying the officer's command. Were he black he would have been shot or beaten.
So that part was stupid beyond belief. Fiorino is lucky to be alive.
That said although I prefer concealed carry, if the law allows open carry then I can understand why some people prefer that.
As far as "looking for trouble" or "trying to set the police up" that is what anyone who's in a vanguard of social activism does. The police come off as whiners - "This guy he knew his rights and set out to show us as the ignorant bullies we often are"...
Shady, I love you because you are always consistent on this issue.
ReplyDeleteAnon.@ 2:03 am, that has been done.
So is open carry legal or not? If so, who voted on it? If you don't like it, don't get mad at the guy exercising his rights, vote the law off the books. This is supposed to be a democracy that follows the rule of law, right?
ReplyDeleteHere we see a good example of how all standards are being degraded all across America, even in the law. Wayne Bennett, an attorney and also a Master in child support proceedings, openly applauds the way that the police and prosecutors are retaliating against a citizen for exercising his legal right.
ReplyDeleteThe rule of law, in Bennett's view, should be subordinate to personal and group opinions. "That's how they roll".
Did he get his law degree from inside a cereal box?
Kim says: "As for the "article" you posted, Black women have the highest self esteem of ALL women as well we should."
ReplyDeletehaha, Kim is a black supremacist. Jesse's "I yam somebody" is at work. You all shouldn't be surprised that ghetto negroes (those that will go on to be the prostitutes, pimps, drug addicts, murderers etc) consistently score highest in tests of so-called 'self-esteem' in schools.
A typical negro doesn't know the difference between self-esteem and braggadocio, and neither do the tests.
Love how the jerkholes support the 'rite' of another to be a flaming jerkhole. Wasn't there another whiner about open carry in Lebanon County PA? Took her manly manhood firearm to football practices? Because there are such terrible dangers when small children play games. One never knows when OBL will send armed goons to flyover areas.
ReplyDeleteWhy yes, I did see where brave heroic hero avoided 'those' areas of Philly. The ones where young adults have 'open carry' for reals. Funny how he picked places where he would not be double-tapped for being a jerkhole.
Lucky, lucky heroic brave hero. Trying to shake down the City.
And I would be ridding my firm of anyone who needed a firearm to bully or intimidate others. Queue jumpers beware! Flipping this dude off while driving the Sure-kill Expressway could be deadly! Watch out parents of football playing children!
He wants to carry so badly...let him enlist...
Mold
So...Lena Horne is ugly? Eartha Kitt (younger years)?
ReplyDeleteCompared to the lardy lump of Bristol Palin...or horse-faced white actresses?
Sorry...I have white co-workers who...really like the muscularity of the Williams sisters. One fellow likes the ample proportions called steatopygian.
Wonder why the man made poo up.
Urban areas should not require firearms. When was the last uprising of Bambi? As far as arsenals....lots of urbanites have multiple firearms. It just isn't as culturally important as in rural areas....where guns are a stand-in for wealth and status.
Mold
Yes, shout out to Don Lemon for coming out. That was FNB.
ReplyDeleteONLY AFTER PROMPTED, OF COURSE IT WOULD NOT COME FROM THE HEART, ON YOUR OWN. YOUR LENS IS TOO NARROW.
FURTHERMORE, WE ALL KNOW YOU ARE HOMOPHOBIC...YOU POSTED YOU GET SCARED IF GUYS PISS NEXT TO YOU AT THE URINAL...IT'S THAT TYPE OF RESPONSE THAT ENFORCES THE BLACK MALE IDEA OF MASCULINITY THAT MAKES YOUR BLACK BROTHERS FEARFUL TO COME OUT (JUST READ LEMONS STATEMENT). THANKS FOR PERPETUATING THE HETEROSEXIST STATUS QUO FN. THANKS A LOT.
DONT' RESPOND, BUT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE THINK ABOUT THESE WORDS. MANY OF US BLACK BROTHAS FEEL WE CANNOT COME OUT, AND AS A PERSON OF PRIVILEGE YOUR WORDS CARRY WEIGHT.
La♥audiobooks said...
ReplyDeleteAnd Dr. Q, sis, you really should ignore them. It's not about you, they just want to provoke anyone who's willing to entertain their foolishness. Don't give them that power.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The only reason I find it difficult to see your point is because 1) There's more than one of them, I'm counting 3 so far, 2) Because one of them is Black coon faced dog, and so 3) It's CLEARLY about me until I stop posting here (like the daily vicious attacks on AB that didn't stop until she stopped posting here).
Ignore a troll and they get the message but when I tried that, it didn't work. Bullies and stalkers need a little more drastic motivation to stop and unfortunately the most useful one (banning) isn't being employed here.
So from this point forward, I promise to try real hard to address the psycho bully stalkers with just 4 words, once/day:
KISS MY BLACK ASS!!!!!!
Kim is bragging again about how many penises she gets. Then she says, "KMBA", which just reinforces that she is a ghetto rat.
ReplyDeleteDr Queen is really a student of penisology. You can bet she has a PhD in THAT, fo sho
ReplyDeleteMold, why do you think he was carrying his gun to bully or intimidate others?
ReplyDeleteFiorino, an IT worker who lives in Montgomery County, grew up in Feltonville.
A handful of his friends fell victim to random crimes over the years - a mugging here, a beatdown there, the kind of stuff that happens all the time in a big city.
It was enough to make him think about being able to protect himself if he ever ran into trouble. "It would be terrifying to me to be powerless," he said.
So, about a year ago, Fiorino said, he got a firearms license and began openly carrying his .40-caliber Glock.
By and large the people shooting each other in the streets are not the people with valid licenses to carry firearms. Whether you like it or not individual right to handgun ownership has been established by the SC. PA evidently allows open carry.
So what Fiorino did initially was legal.
Giving a Type-A personality, high testosterone police officer reason to shoot you, taze you, mace you or beat you over a principle was extremely foolish imo, particularly since Fiorino eventually submitted anyway-making his initial refusal pointless.
But for those people who are concerned with self-defense or not becoming a victim I can't be angry at them for whatever legal steps they take-whether that's just avoiding certain areas, becoming a judo or silat serak expert, or carrying a valid registered firearm. It's up to the individual to choose how to best protect his life and property.
Field, what does the law state about a citizen's right to refuse a patently unlawful request from a police officer. I know the wise thing to do is to comply and fight it out in court..
ReplyDeletequote FN: 'And why were you "terrified to be powerless"? Have you ever been a victim of a crime? I bet not.'
ReplyDeleteThere you have it. Only a person who has been directly victimized by violent criminals can have a reasonable concern about being victimized himself. Brilliant! Why waste time reading about crime or anything, only direct experience matters.
Urban areas should not require firearms. When was the last uprising of Bambi? As far as arsenals....lots of urbanites have multiple firearms. It just isn't as culturally important as in rural areas....where guns are a stand-in for wealth and status.
ReplyDeleteMold
Yes, yes chile, we know you don't understand the need for the ability to defend yourself. It is nice and warm and safe in mommies basement.
So from this point forward, I promise to try real hard to address the psycho bully stalkers with just 4 words, once/day:
ReplyDeleteKISS MY BLACK ASS!!!!!!
Honey, did'n I tell you I gots huge lips but even I's cant kiss dat flappy smelly droopy dang my lips aint big enuff and the gas mask gets in da way.
Maybe if you weren't such a pig, people wouldn't be callin you a sow? How dat sound sueeeeeeeeeeeee--wheeeeeeeeeeeee.
It's too bad that Fiorino isn't black. If he were, then this would be called a case of "racism" and he'd have all the teams of free legal help that he needs, from NAACP et al. As it is, he's white so he'll have to get a lawyer on his own, and probably have to come up with a retainer.
ReplyDeletemack lyons writes:
ReplyDeleteIn regards to job creation, it might. As for lowering gas prices? Not so much. As I said, burst the speculation bubble down on Wall Street, so per-barrel prices of crude plummet from $100+/barrel to $30-$40 per.
Where do you get this nonsense about "speculation"?
In your imaginary world the market is one-sided. But in the real world, it is two-sided.
As the world knows, commodity markets are volatile. But volatility is NOT a one-way path to high prices. It means prices go up and down, sometimes rapidly.
If you want to slow the pace of change, then the best way is to raise the margin requirements for trading. But slowing the pace of change will have only a small effect on the peaks and valleys of oil prices.
Meanwhile, you seem to think that oil has an intrinsic value of $30-#40. This is your imagination at work. Something is worth whatever consumers are willing to pay.
As we're seeing, there is limited willingness among buyers to pay $100 a barrel. Thus, the price of oil has begun to drop.
How low will it go? Who knows? But after peaking at $147 a barrel in the summer of 2008, it fell to $38 a few months later. It bounced off the low price and hovered around the mid-point till recently.
Shady, wearing a firearm like he did is solely for intimidation. If he needed a gun for protection...he could obtain a CCP. But if I was Sheriff, I would decline weenies request.
ReplyDeleteThe bully is obvious...talk to me in a less than deferential tone...and you could get shot. Review the wearing of swords for the relevant background.
I would posit that he knew being a jerkhole to an armed officer could result in an outcome that would not be positive for the jerkhole. And what jury would convict? Jerkhole has gun, officer makes reasonable request, jerkhole becomes danger to officer and public...jerkhole dead or incapacitated. Wahhh.
I might question the IT person being a legal expert on the question of carry. Sounds more like the Sir Wankalot is repeating drivel from sites that also tell you how to declare yourself 'sovereign', refuse taxes, drive without insurance and plates, avoid child support, and generally declare your Royal self above the laws that other peasanty types must obey.
This is wite privilege.
Mold
mack lyons asks:
ReplyDeleteAside from the job creation aspects of increased US oil production, how is that going to affect how much goods we import from China, et al?
What? You're saying that if we increase our domestic oil production and pump the extra money into our own economy, that's not good enough because the extra oil money doesn't solve ALL our economic issues. Wow.
You better go back and re-read the chapter in your economics book titled "Comparative Advantage."
Trade is good. But increasing imports because we've created our own internal tariffs is bad.
One way countries overcome their own idiocy is by devaluing their currencies. Then imports become too expensive for the citizens while exports become cheap for people in other countries.
That's where Obama is taking us. Unfortunately, that gambit won't work very well for the US.
Shady says, "Field, what does the law state about a citizen's right to refuse a patently unlawful request from a police officer. I know the wise thing to do is to comply and fight it out in court."
ReplyDeleteIn effect, you've answered your own question. There was a common law right to resist. Some states codified that right. But that right has been dispensed with by many state courts, on the grounds that you mention: a person has legal venues to redress the wrong, so physical means should not be allowed.
I don't know about PA in particular. Still, as always, rights often only belong to those who have the money to win in court.
There was a similar case in MD, in which a motorcyclist recorded his speeding stop via a helmet cam. When the video was discovered on youtube, the police retaliated with a wiretapping arrest for recording the stop.
If Fiorino was black, Sgt. Dougherty would have put one in the back of his head.
ReplyDeleteShady, wearing a firearm like he did is solely for intimidation. If he needed a gun for protection...he could obtain a CCP. But if I was Sheriff, I would decline weenies request.
ReplyDeleteThe bully is obvious...talk to me in a less than deferential tone...and you could get shot. Review the wearing of swords for the relevant background.
I would posit that he knew being a jerkhole to an armed officer could result in an outcome that would not be positive for the jerkhole. And what jury would convict? Jerkhole has gun, officer makes reasonable request, jerkhole becomes danger to officer and public...jerkhole dead or incapacitated. Wahhh.
I might question the IT person being a legal expert on the question of carry. Sounds more like the Sir Wankalot is repeating drivel from sites that also tell you how to declare yourself 'sovereign', refuse taxes, drive without insurance and plates, avoid child support, and generally declare your Royal self above the laws that other peasanty types must obey.
This is wite privilege.
Mold
Queen
ReplyDelete"The only reason I find it difficult to see your point is because 1) There's more than one of them, I'm counting 3 so far, 2) Because one of them is Black coon faced dog"
Yeah.
The Anon-Tom is a real punk ass piece of work.
Really sick.
mack lyons writes:
ReplyDeleteI'm reading data on crude oil and petroleum-based product exports from the US Energy Information Administration. So far, Canada is the only country with figures listed for crude oil exports, at 847,000 barrels per month for Feb. 2011.
I have no idea what your preceding statement means.
The two countries sending the most oil to the US are Canada and Mexico.
The possibility that we export some oil to those countries while simultaneously importing oil from both is tied to operational issues. Net net, we import a lot of oil from those two.
We also pipe in -- import -- huge quantities of natural gas from Canada. Mexico is also increasing its US-bound shipments of natural gas.
"If he needed a gun for protection...he could obtain a CCP."
ReplyDeleteMold is such a dillweed. The story says he has a license. It's a central part of the story.
"If Fiorino was black, Sgt. Dougherty would have put one in the back of his head."
ReplyDeletethe police aren't supposed to notice that it's the angry coons like steve who are doing most of the murders of police across the country
uptownsteve said...
ReplyDeleteQueen
"The only reason I find it difficult to see your point is because 1) There's more than one of them, I'm counting 3 so far, 2) Because one of them is Black coon faced dog"
Yeah.
The Anon-Tom is a real punk ass piece of work.
Really sick.
Translation: I usually get away with tons of bullshit, this guy exposes me for the dumbass fraud I am and I don't like not being able to use my racist wheelchair to get out of situations I have created. Just yesterday he revealed how totally racist and ignorant I am when I post articles I don't read and even worse don't understand, yet loudly say others are wrong.
So now I have to say he is a TOM, which is ghetto code word for saying I am a dumb ass incompetent negro, but he aint backin me..he a TOM. No, your a dumbass, incompetent racist negro.
Yes, you are a real piece of work. It's like watchin a little bitch cry, were you always such a whining pussy? Hears a hanky, wipe away your weakness the world can see it coon.
The only "gun" mold is familiar with is the fleshy type that fills her bowels with sticky stuff.
ReplyDeletemack lyons writes:
ReplyDeleteThe "Drill Baby Drill" crowd linked raising oil production to lowering gas prices.
So what?
The Obama crowd linked electing Obama to dozens of erroneous outcomes -- like ending the fighting in Afghanistan, like restoring the financial health of the nation, etc.
In the case of Drill Baby Drill, it's the spirit that matters. It's the spirit of putting a lot of Americans to work in high paying jobs.
If lowering gas prices isn't the objective of increased oil production, does that mean the "Drill Baby Drill" crowd knows fuck-all about what they're talking about, or are they simply packaging this to a general public, hoping they'll associate more drilling with lower prices at the pump?
It means that PRICE isn't what people want to believe. It's a matter of importing versus consuming a domestic product.
When people say "Buy American" do they think if enough people buy Fords made in Detroit that Ford prices will drop? No.
But Ford does have some control over vehicle pricing, whereas the oil companies have no control over oil pricing.
As I said, the more oil we find, drill, pump, refine and sell in the US, the more American workers get paid for all the work involved. That's what economic recoveries are made of.
Your focus on all the externalities is an exercise in irrelevance and evidence that you have no grasp of economic reality.
In the nineteenth century, what forces brought citizens together to decide not to openly carry guns in their cities? Was it an effort to appear more civilized? Mind you most of the citizens weren't against gun ownership.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteThe only "gun" mold is familiar with is the fleshy type that fills her bowels with sticky stuff.
Correction "HIS" bowels. Mold is a white male ex student who was kicked out of college for being incompetent and just plain fuckin nuts. He was stalking teachers, students, now he stalks people on the internet and is a masterful sockpuppet and meatpuppet rolled into one.
Question:
ReplyDeleteHow can an anonymous punk "expose" anybody?
Yeah, keep talking smack behind your keyboard sweetie.
We've already seen what you're about.
My invite is still open.
"The Obama crowd linked electing Obama to dozens of erroneous outcomes -- like ending the fighting in Afghanistan, like restoring the financial health of the nation, etc."
ReplyDeleteIt's coming Slapstick.
It's coming.
Exactly why BO will be getting a second term and won't have to start a bogus war to get it.
In the nineteenth century, what forces brought citizens together to decide not to openly carry guns in their cities? Was it an effort to appear more civilized? Mind you most of the citizens weren't against gun ownership
ReplyDeleteNo, it was actions taken directly by the ruling class. Only someone not looking would miss seeing that in ALL communities increased gun ownership almost eliminates crime. It is no coincidence that our cities today with the highest crime rates have the strictest gun control laws for citizens, of course this disarms the law abiding citizens and the criminals are already law breakers
uts: "My invite is still open"
ReplyDeletewhat invite is that? is coonboy making internet threats? haha, what a douchebag
mack lyons writes:
ReplyDeleteSeeing an extra $100 million/day directed towards our economy is a good thing, but it still doesn't address how to lower the price of fuel.
There is NO absolute method for lowering the price of oil to a level that YOU think is the "correct" level.
Buyers decide for themselves. If the price is too high, they cut back. But where is that point? It's different for every buyer.
And farther down the road, you get to balance the extra influx of revenue with the raised environmental costs from increased drilling.
Nonsense. EVERY form of energy comes with environmental costs. If nations operated on the standards you're implying, then NO energy source would suffice.
When the day arrives that solar panels are efficient enough to compete with oil at $100 a barrel, you'll see solar companies trying to paper millions of acres of real estate with their panels. The plants and animals that had been living in those hot sunny desert-like regions will die when the ground is shaded by the blanket of solar panels.
There will be huge fights over ruining the environment for Gila monsters and other desert reptiles.
Anyway, clean-up costs are just part of life in the oil & gas industry. Not a problem.
Clean up is a source of meaningful work for many, and the cost of cleaning up will work its way into the price of oil.
"Mold is a white male ex student who was kicked out of college for being incompetent and just plain fuckin nuts. He was stalking teachers, students, now he stalks people on the internet and is a masterful sockpuppet and meatpuppet rolled into one."
ReplyDeletethat makes sense. No negro would call himself "mold". That's the type of name chosen by demented white teenboys with emotional problems, like "spaz" etc.
anon 9:40,
ReplyDeleteYou are speaking to a different issue.
Not to opening carry, does not mean a restriction on ownership. Those towns in the west and southwest in the late 19th century were quite different from what you described.
uptownsteve said...
ReplyDeleteQuestion:
How can an anonymous punk "expose" anybody?
Yeah, keep talking smack behind your keyboard sweetie.
We've already seen what you're about.
My invite is still open.
Listen Shirley, I don't care if you made me promise not to say it publicly, I have to stop this shit.
I am not gay, I am not interested in letting you blow me. If I were gay I would pick someone much better looking and with some brains over you. Not some henpecked pussy whipped little bitch. why would I go with a woman bitch like you if I were gay? I would want a man.
So now stop the sexual advances you are a sick and disgusting pervert and I can't believe you are doing this again. For the last time I WILL NOT LET YOU TOSS MY SALAD you sick man!!!! So stop askin, it aint gonna happen.
You are worthless weak and infantile. gettin all suburban gangsta during a discussion on guns, what a stupid coon you prove to be each time you post.
Now your coon bag of tricks is empty. What will you say next? I can tell ya, but you are so limited in your intellectual capacity you would do it anyway as you know nothing else.
Have a nice day Mr Coonfuckery hisself.
slappz, you are wrong about the speculators. Commodities markets were meant to provide stability. Instead, they have become gambling parlors. Everybody has paid an inflated price for gas these past weeks because the gamblers made it so. Supply and demand wasn't changed, the Saudis made up for Libya.
ReplyDeleteWe now have a situation where a small number of people gambling with a relatively small amount of money can and do set prices for consumers.
mack lyons writes:
ReplyDeleteFrom the POV of an automaker looking to cut costs and increase profits by building their vehicles in locales offering cheap labor? Not so much. Unless the locale happens to be a southeastern "right to work" state that's willing to shower the company in millions of dollars worth of tax cuts.
Yep. You're right. Low taxes and free-market wage rates are just the ticket for attracting world-class manufacturers that bring jobs and prosperity to their locales. See how simple it is for American manufacturers to compete, even when they operate in the US?
Somebody in Detroit should consider the obvious.
But building VWs in Pueblo and shipping them into the US courtesy of NAFTA may still be cheaper than building VWs in Tennessee with a labor force largely sourced from temporary labor agencies.
Yep. Could turn out that way. But, as you noted by not mentioning it, a place like Detroit isn't worth mentioning because it has sacrificed its competitiveness as a manufacturing site by creating the internal tariffs that send work as far away as possible.
US car companies could easily compete with foreign manufacturers IF it were possible to dump ALL remaining union contracts and related obligations.
However, due to the fact that the restructuring of the US auto industry was only partial, the US car companies will always operate with a ball and chain on one leg.
white forman writes:
ReplyDeleteslappz, you are wrong about the speculators. Commodities markets were meant to provide stability.
Obviously you have no understanding of commodities markets. Or the concept of "stability."
Airlines buy futures contracts on oil-related products to control their fuel costs. Their goal is to "hedge" against rising prices, which they have been doing. But, as recent airline reports show, high oil prices have overtaken their hedging actions.
Nevertheless, as always, they have made their best estimates of fuel prices and hedged themselves accordingly.
Instead, they have become gambling parlors. Everybody has paid an inflated price for gas these past weeks because the gamblers made it so. Supply and demand wasn't changed, the Saudis made up for Libya.
All nonsense. On one side of a futures contract is the airline that is hedging against higher prices. The airline buys its contract from a participant who is speculating that prices will go higher.
YOu don't get one without the other.
We now have a situation where a small number of people gambling with a relatively small amount of money can and do set prices for consumers.
Gambling with a small amount of money that's leveraged into a much larger total does not ipso facto mean that prices go to the moon. But it does mean that prices can become extremely volatile.
You simply do not understand that oil has no exact value. Airlines can pay varying prices and still remain solvent. But there are a number of examples of airlines that went bankrupt because they did not hedge against their own internal limit on fuel costs.
uptownsteve said...
ReplyDeleteThe Anon-Tom is a real punk ass piece of work.
Really sick.
>>>>>>>
Yeah, that a$$ IS sick, but what do you make of the assnons that want "proof" yet they don't even have a real username? They have never mentioned what THEY do for a living which basically translates to working as a cashier at the local Piggly Wiggly or maybe as a secretary for the local public library (for free internet access of course).
It's all good though, makes me celebrate my highly successful and VERY blessed life that much more!!!
What's that song by Jill Scott, "hate on me haters, now or later..........".
Muah!
mack lyons wrote:
ReplyDeleteI recall some talk about adding $1-$2 in taxes on fuel to pay presumably for repairing road infrastructure and possibly funding rail and bus transport, but I figured that plan was essentially DOA, given most Americans' hyper-reflexivity towards resisting tax increases.
Let's see. Gas is $4 a gallon. If it were $3 people would feel relieved. If it were $2 a gallon, people would be positively ecstatic.
On the other hand, if Obama hit America with an extra $1 a gallon today, the $5 price would bring on a firestorm of protest. If gas were pushed up to $6 due to Obama gas taxes, the nation would demand his resignation.
So, rather than risk his political neck, he's taken steps to restrict supplies by refusing to expand domestic drilling into areas where oil reserves are easy to tap. ANWR and off both coasts there are known, easily accessible oil fields that would soon boost US production by a significant percentage if we were to start the drilling process now.
Instead, Obama has made the oil companies the villains. Their profit margins are generally less than 10%. Whereas Apple and Microsoft have profit margins around 25%.
@Cereal Box- yes if I were Fiorino I would have complied with the officer's order immediately rather than delay but then again that's me. But my question is more along the lines of how the law recognizes a citizen's right to resist assault, rape or other celarly illegal "orders" from police officers-where to comply with a clearly illegal order causes bodily harm. That wasn't really the case here but I just find that question interesting as the officers were in the wrong.
ReplyDelete@Mold
It's not Fiorino's fault that he's white. It's not the path I would have chosen but as it turns out he was right on the law and the officers were wrong. He had a license to carry and state law preempts local law. Both sides should have handled it better. And my understanding is that PA is a shall issue state, which means that if you are not a criminal/insane or under a protection order, you can't be stopped from getting a license to carry.
mack lyons posted:
ReplyDeletenaturalresourcereport.com/2011/05/wyden-targets-oil-speculators/
Very amusing and naive writing, proving only that our legislators are a lot dumber than 5th graders.
In the end, the blame for oil prices will be placed on ghosts.
For now, it's either villainous oil companies or green-eyed, greed obsessed evil speculators.
The following was especially amusing:
“Last week crude oil prices unexpectedly fell by nearly 10 percent in one day defying the basic economic principles of supply and demand and today they are back up over $100 a barrel,”
I love the part where he claims prices fell "unexpectedly." In other words, he believes that most of the time, people know -- in advance -- that prices will rise or fall. What a moron.
Wyden said. “The wild fluctuation could only be the result of rampant oil speculation, plain and simple...
Oh. The drop couldn't have anything to do with herd behavior and the sudden sense that airlines had reduced their hedging efforts.
Takes two sides to tango. Meanwhile, Wyden seems oblivious to the difference between the spot market and the futures markets.
First, he has to admit he knows nothing. Then he might begin to learn a little about the nature of dealing with expectations of what might or might not happen in the days ahead.
Ms. Ann G. Myma said...
ReplyDeleteThis is funny on so many levels. Perhaps, because the author of this article is Japanese. Apparently, Satoshi Kanazawa has issues with people of African decent. He feels they are not fit to live. So much so that his articles have appeared on Stormfront and Vangard. Sounds like Satoshi is suffering from some serious, internalized racism. I don't know why he chose to attack black women. Could it be that they have their own perception of beauty- instead of a European ideal? Or, is it some kind of projection going on? After all, Asian men are not so desirable. Living in London, he has probably been rejected. However, it appears that he is a believer in racist stereotypes-and- is using bogus science to perpetuate them. P. Z. Meyers an evolutionary biologist at the University of Minnesota, has called Kanazawa "the great idiot of social science."
Satoshi Kanazawa dared to speak about one of those unspoken truths.
And no he is getting punished for it.Liberal fascism at its worst.
Fiorino shouldn't bitch too much.
ReplyDeleteNow, THIS fella.....mebbe so. If he could.
Funny you didn't hear about this one in the MSM, either:
http://www.kold.com/story/14604192/wife
Obviously you have no understanding of commodities markets. Or the concept of "stability."
ReplyDeleteHaha, in ego-land, only slappz understands all, and everyone else is inferior. What a supercilious twit you are. (Since you 'debate' by constantly inserting demeaning language, I've dropped down to your level so you can understand me.)
Contracts were meant to exist between buyers and sellers of commodities. Farmers wanted to know what a crop would sell for at harvest, before they decided how much of a crop to plant in spring. The crop buyers likewise wanted to know in advance what they would be paying, so they could enter into contracts with their own customers. That's called stability. It doesn't mean whatever you fancy.
Speculators were allowed in order to provide liquidity to markets that needed it. There is no need for added liquidity in gasoline trading, therefore no need for speculators.
The situation that exists now allows speculators to place leveraged bets, and the bets in large part determine the price that consumers eventually pay.
You apparently are rather dull witted and think that fuel prices rose because those who eventually will take delivery of the fuel were the same ones bidding the prices up. In the real world, the buying pressure came from gamblers.
The solution is to allow only those who actually buy and sell fuel to participate. The overall trend would remain the same, yet we wouldn't be hijacked with spikes that are caused by gambling activity.
Queen
ReplyDelete"Yeah, that a$$ IS sick, but what do you make of the assnons that want "proof" yet they don't even have a real username"
Yeah, they're all cowards and losers.
The type of pantloads who park in the handicap spaces at the mall.
Shady: "But my question is more along the lines of how the law recognizes a citizen's right to resist assault, rape or other celarly illegal "orders" from police officers-where to comply with a clearly illegal order causes bodily harm. That wasn't really the case here..."
ReplyDeleteWell, you think like a fair-minded judge would. It's likely that a decision would be made precisely along those lines of imminent harm or not. But it's not "settled law", AFAIK.
Yet note that according to the post, he is not charged with resisting (or obstruction), but instead with reckless endangerment and disorderly conduct. DC is the catchall charge that says "we want to get you on something". (Did Fiorino raise his voice?) The oddly applied endangerment charge might be related to the claim that police cars racing to the scene might have caused an accident.
As always, your state law may vary.
Still, Fiorino would likely be convicted by a judge in Phila, because of political considerations. A jury might be more likely to acquit.
However, the case became one of retaliation, since Fiorino was not originally charged on those counts. So a US court will decide that in a civil rights complaint, if things get that far.
I am proud of Don Lemon.Calling out the black community on their homophobia is FNB.......
ReplyDeleteIts time the black community move past their homophobia and racism.
Ah the angry black ghetto thing speaks. No way this creature has an education. I know she is on welfare and has about 12 kids all named leroy. Don't worry when she calls them, no one gets confused, she just uses they last names.
ReplyDeleteya know queefkim if eye were u ide take a good look and ax myself wtf? eye mean errybody see thru ur stoooopid lies bloviations and exaggerations u aint nuttin but a qoohole idgit imbecile! so u need to look in the mirror take some adhesive remover to remove that gawdsawful piss smelling weavewig and weave cap and address those burrs queefkim seriously start off wit the burrs then work on yer grammar sweetie pie tomorrow welle give u another lesson in an attribute ure sorely lacking class chump! lesson 1 get it under that thick skull of yours qoohole idgit learn a lesson
ReplyDeleteYeah Spc,
ReplyDeleteWhite folks, especially conservatives are so culturally tolerant.
The GOP sure supports homosexuals, don't they?
Is it just me or does anyone wonder if some of these goobers were dropped on their heads at birth?
@Shady: there's also the unremarked upon civil rights aspect of the recording itself. One officer sees Fiorino's recorder and says, "that's illegal".
ReplyDeleteYet there was no charge on that matter. So maybe PA has settled that and it is no longer considered illegal to record an LEO in the public conduct of his official duty.
But then what about a bystander doing the recording? Fiorino has legal bills because he was doing something legal, though unwanted by the police. What if the police decided to charge a bystander with obstruction for recording, even knowing that ythe bystander would be acquitted - yet figuring that would discourage others?
senile steve surely knows how to pick em hede rather support an ovious liar fraud and fake with no edumacashun then to even acknowledge that spc the wite trash shitstain is rite about something talk about hubris!
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ReplyDelete100 dummies!
ReplyDeletewannabe dawktaw da queefkim apparently needs etiquitte help too Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteDid you ever think people just don't like you and it's you that is abrasive and phony? With your made up name and all? You are a phony braggart who does nothing but make up things that are incredulous (still waiting for that scientific paper on aids cures that you published) that you back up with nothing, attempt to denigrate your obvious betters with gutterish ghetto speak and homophobia, nastiness beyond the pale and then amazing claims that you have multiple degrees but choose to act like a half witted racist ghetto hood rat.
Truth is people see the garbage you are and the hypocrisy and don't like you at all...even though your family has "fitty seben duhgrees" and some white guy lives in a trailer some where.
Your just a lowlife hoodrat who is so full of herself that she is about to explode and soil everyone around her/him, whatever you really are Pat.
"uptownsteve said...
ReplyDeleteThe GOP sure supports homosexuals, don't they?
Is it just me or does anyone wonder if some of these goobers were dropped on their heads at birth?
11:33 AM"
Hmmm....I don't know Steve. Never thought about it, but it's an interesting hypothesis. Maybe dropping them on their heads DOES make them queer.
Come to think of it...you look a little bit flat-headed yourself.
uptownsteve said...
ReplyDeleteIs it just me or does anyone wonder if some of these goobers were dropped on their heads at birth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
Actually UTS they weren't born at all, they were hatched from eggs found in excrement, LOL!!!
steve took it up the butt a lot in the Coast Guard from the white guys, that's why he hates whitey but wants everybody to believe that being gay is normal
ReplyDeleteSo ass-non,
ReplyDeleteYou're saying that homosexuality is abnormal?
Queen, I think this is the anon-Tom, right?
It's the white anon who claims that blacks are homophobic and the Tom who actually is homophobic.
Right?
hey that's good :) steve finally admits that he thinks taking it up his butt is normal
ReplyDeletelet's have a coming out party for steve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
queenie, be a doll and get your strapon and give steve a working over
"Nearly 20 percent of new Obamacare waivers are gourmet restaurants, nightclubs, fancy hotels in Nancy Pelosi’s district
ReplyDeleteOther common waiver recipients were labor union chapters, large corporations, financial firms and local governments. But Pelosi’s district’s waivers are the first major examples of luxurious, gourmet restaurants and hotels getting a year-long pass from Obamacare.
Looks like only the saps without political connections will be subject to the damage of mandates. Hope and change, uh huh.
uptownsteve said...
ReplyDeleteQueen, I think this is the anon-Tom, right?
It's the white anon who claims that blacks are homophobic and the Tom who actually is homophobic.
Right?
>>>>>>
LOL!! Hell if I know, what I do know is that there are more truly crazy people posting here than I've see on the mental health "wards" of a local hospital.
Liberal Fascism exists only in the lies of liars. Or Jonah Goldberg...who fibbed in a book to make the claim.
ReplyDeleteWhining that Goobers have to follow law..is not Fascism...but the whimpers of mental defectives that they are not feted above other citizens. Wahhh.
If you want preferential treatment...pay the extra fees.
I took the statements from the article...and he was sooo askeered of being in the WSZ that he needed to parade around with his pistol in view. Very much like sword carry. Bullying and intimidation.
As far as his expertise...he sounds less like a legal expert and more like one of the fool 'sovereign' idiots. Where he can decline to follow the laws he, personally, disagrees with. Unlike the Civil Rights marchers who knew full well the consequences for their actions...these heroic brave sov-ran heroes expect to be treated with deference.
You might wish to understand that many lawyers carry...some of their wingnut clients are irrational. Yet, I can't think of a single attorney of any philosophical stripe who straps a gun to their hip in a desperate attempt to recreate the WildWild West of st reagan.
Oh, an he is pouting that being a stoopid jerkhole has consequences. Poor baby. He should be allowed to walk around society with a gun, no training and zero oversight. Yep.
Mold
did you ever see that old tv show "The Addams family"?
ReplyDeletemold is like Cousin It, but nigt as classy. when he comes up from the cellar occasionally, you know he's there only when you notice the smell
i've just learned to quickly scan a post for his sig so I can ignore his demented spews. I suppose most of you do the same. he's creepy and ooky
"Anonymous said...
ReplyDeletehe's creepy and ooky
12:47 PM"
...and Steve fudge-packs his dooky.
Queen
ReplyDelete"LOL!! Hell if I know, what I do know is that there are more truly crazy people posting here than I've see on the mental health "wards" of a local hospital."
Nah, there's only one or two of the losers.
Their goal is to harrass and harnague people off the board.
Then claim victory.
They have no lives.
white foreman writes:
ReplyDeleteContracts were meant to exist between buyers and sellers of commodities. Farmers wanted to know what a crop would sell for at harvest before they decided how much of a crop to plant in spring....
Where did your quote come from? A high school US history book with a few paragraphs on agriculture and commodities markets? Please tell me how farmers SELLING contracts for FUTURE delivery of wheat, corn, etc, can incorporate the effects of drought or bumper crops.
They only know how much they will receive for the quantities they sell into the futures markets. By setting the price of their crops for sale in the future, they make manage to keep their own businesses going, but these deals do NOT stop prices from going way up or way down.
If every wheat farmer in the country tried to sell futures contracts to unload all their wheat crops in the same month, the price of that contract would drop way way down. But Farmer A does not know and cannot control the plans of Farmer B, or Farmer C, so they all have to live with the results.
Check the price of wheat today. Guess what? There's a drought that no one foresaw. Prices are way up.
What do you think the flooding from the Mississippi will do to supplies of crops nearby?
How high will prices go as a result of the drought? How high as a result of the floods?
... The crop buyers likewise wanted to know in advance what they would be paying, so they could enter into contracts with their own customers. That's called stability. It doesn't mean whatever you fancy.
Yeah, that's all very nice and it's what hedgers and speculators have always done. Nothing new here. Nothing new at all.
Nevertheless, prices have always swung from one extreme to the other, always as a result of perceived levels of supply and demand. NOT actual supply and demand -- but expectations of FUTURE supply and demand.
We can estimate and project with some confidence. But we can NEVER price to perfection.
Speculators were allowed in order to provide liquidity to markets that needed it.
I have a feeling you don't know the definition of liquidity, or what it takes to create a liquid market.
Without liquidity, there is no market. If you want and example of a buyers and sellers making deals without the benefit of liquidity, all you need to do is to look at the trading in credit derivatives during the Financial Crisis.
Or, you could look at Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns. both collapsed when the liquidity in the markets they depended on suddenly, very suddenly disappeared.
There is no need for added liquidity in gasoline trading, therefore no need for speculators.
Right. Sure. YOu seem determined to miss the central point of commodities markets, which is that it takes two sides to make a market, and the two sides require a hedger and a speculator.
The situation that exists now allows speculators to place leveraged bets, and the bets in large part determine the price that consumers eventually pay.
Do you think airlines are unleveraged operations? How many months ahead should they purchase fuel? Or should they stick with the spot market only, figuring that what goes up, must come down?
Do they ever sell their contracts before maturity? Or do they always take delivery?
How about refinery companies? What about companies that only drill for oil and pump it? Where do they stand?
Who or what is on the other side of these trades? Nobody? The government?
How about companies that drill, pump, refine and sell refined products? HOw do they utilize the commodities markets?
white foreman con't:
ReplyDeleteYou apparently are rather dull witted and think that fuel prices rose because those who eventually will take delivery of the fuel were the same ones bidding the prices up.
That wcenario exists in your mind only. Whereas, you seem oblivious to the fact that after Egypt began its revolution and the idea began to spread across North Africa and the middle east that somehow it was/is known how these upheavals will affect oil supplies.
Libyan production is down and Saudi Arabia cannot crank up production by a million barrels a day on short notice. It can definitely increase production by a million barrels a day -- given enough time and enough effort from the US and other nation's companies that actually manage the Saudi oil industry.
How long will Libya be offline? What will happen after Gaddafi is gone? Libayan production is very low because muslims are always extraordinarily incompetent at everything and Gaddafi was no exception. Thus, a sane leadership in Libya can expect to crank up oil production by a multiple of five or six, no problem. What will that do -- if it happens?
In the real world, the buying pressure came from gamblers.
You have no idea what MIGHT or WILL happen in the real world, which is why you believe it's possible to have a one-sided market.
The solution is to allow only those who actually buy and sell fuel to participate.
Really? Here's some hot news. Those guys are called speculators and there are a number of hedge funds (which should really be called Speculator Funds) that do exactly what you're suggesting. They buy and sell fuel. That's it. If they take deliverty, they warehouse the fuel in storage facilities, of which there are many around the world.
But mostly they scalp small profits trading contracts.
The overall trend would remain the same, yet we wouldn't be hijacked with spikes that are caused by gambling activity.
In other words, you believe the markets would find a perfect balance as every variable on the planet fell into a state of equilibrium.
What do you think about the price moves in gold and silver over the last 30 years?
Dr.Queen said...
ReplyDeleteLOL!! Hell if I know, what I do know is that there are more truly crazy people posting here than I've see on the mental health "wards" of a local hospital.
You are so right.Queen has a penis and mold post like a drunk retard.
Steve is a bitter old black man who still gets pissed because he has to say "YES SIR" to his white boss.
Whatever happen to the educated negros who use to post here?
white foreman,
ReplyDeleteRecently there was an article in the Wall Street Journal about a hedge fund (speculator fund) that was heavy into trading oil and energy contracts.
Unfortunately for investors in this fund, the strategist predicted prices were about to change direction. The fund placed its bets according to the predictions of the resident genius. But the genius was wrong and the fund lost 20% of its value in a matter of weeks.
The same happened a couple of years ago to a trader/genius running a fund focused on natural gas. Hunter-something was the name of the fund, and it got crushed.
If you want to know about disasters you have to keep up with those who report this information -- like those who collect data on hedge fund performance.
slappz, you really do make me laugh with your inflated sense of self importance. Take a chill pill, as these negroes say. Haha.
ReplyDeleteI'll take the last point of your misguided diatribe, since I don't want to get too bogged down in your clouded thinking:
me: "The overall trend would remain the same, yet we wouldn't be hijacked with spikes that are caused by gambling activity."
you: "In other words, you believe the markets would find a perfect balance as every variable on the planet fell into a state of equilibrium."
no, I believe what I'd said. Just reread it. It doesn't make much sense for you to incorrectly restate what I'd said, then take that restatement as if I'd said it.
One last thing: you have a penchant for using stats, yet you miss out on actually understanding things. The main stat that explains the price spike(s) concerns how much money has flowed into buying contracts. When the speculators decide that is a hot market, they pour in and drive prices up. Too much money chasing the contracts makes them rise. It's simple. It's not about too much money chasing the actual fuel, it's a temporary artifact of the gambling dens.
UTS, it's what worked for them in school. When they could not follow the curriculum...they tried to ruin it for others.
ReplyDeleteJust because they were lost or Left Behind, they assumed that the rest of the class was so retarded.
No. We waited for such losers to be out of our lives. And, with the blessings of modern meritocracy...most of them have been removed.
Still, our resident 'legal expert' maintains his 'innocence'. Riiight.
Maybe he just wants wingnut welfare from a settlement. 25 and seeking 'disability'.
No wonder he is a wingnut hero.
Mold
slappz: "Recently there was an article in the Wall Street Journal about a hedge fund (speculator fund) that was heavy into trading oil and energy contracts..." [and they suffered].
ReplyDeleteThat's as it should be, they took the risk. My objection comes when their risk-taking directly affects EVERYBODY in the country and beyond - especially me.
They put down their 5% or whatever it currently is and prices change at the pump. Quickly change.
It is a false tale that speculators are needed in order for markets to work. Just like the fantasy that everybody benefits when jobs are exported to China. Just like the fantasy that Wall St employs the 'best minds'.
Mold
ReplyDeleteLook at it though.
They're succeeding.
Today you have Slappy, SPC, White Foreman and the various assnons.
They've run the blacks off a black blog.
Damn.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteUTS, it's what worked for them in school. When they could not follow the curriculum...they tried to ruin it for others.
Mold
Please provide us with facts and proof of this happenin'.
We're all waiting.........
Whose "we" SPC?
ReplyDeleteYou and your goober aliases?
Freakin loser.
Hathor: "In the nineteenth century, what forces brought citizens together to decide not to openly carry guns in their cities?"
ReplyDeletePresumably, when they thought that the law could and would handle the bad guys. We now live in a time where society is falling apart, and more and more realize they must protect themselves in one way or another.
Historically, I don't know if restrictive laws were passed that long ago. But in most of non-U.S. history, it was a matter of rulers not wanting the ruled to have weapons.
(Then again, you probably won't be back to read this response. Things seem to wind down around this time.)
uptownsteve said...
ReplyDeleteMold
Look at it though.
They're succeeding.
Today you have Slappy, SPC, White Foreman and the various assnons.
They've run the blacks off a black blog.
Damn.
Instead of name calling, join in the conv.We can all get along.Its only when you ,mold,and queen start the childish name calling that things go bad and people stop posting here.
You know, Stevie & Moldy?
ReplyDeleteI find it mighty coincidental that since you two rocket scientists vacated our wonderful Publik Skool Systems, the aggregate IQ level of blacks in the "system" suddenly went to shit.
Odd, that.
"They've run the blacks off a black blog."
ReplyDeletehey, that's funny :)
(You should have said "dang", though.)
So you believe in separatism, huh?
No actually it's pathetic.
ReplyDeleteYou racists goobers aren't satisfied with freerepublic.com, frontpagemag.com, aryan.com, stormfront.com and literally thousands of other sites you can spew your bile on.
You can't stand to see black people have a site where we can gather on and talk about issues that interest us.
Damn, one more time.
The freakin nerve.
uptownsteve said...
ReplyDeleteLook at it though.
They're succeeding.
Today you have Slappy, SPC, White Foreman and the various assnons.
They've run the blacks off a black blog.
Damn.
>>>>>>>>>>
I guess there's a little truth to what you're saying Steve. I think it boils down to the fact that most Black folks have enough "issues" to deal with in our real lives without spending what little free time we do have on a blog being harasseed/stalked to hell and back by a bunch of hicks and coons.
I guess there's a little truth to what you're saying Steve. I think it boils down to the fact that most Black folks have enough "issues" to deal with in our real lives without spending what little free time we do have on a blog being harasseed/stalked to hell and back by a bunch of hicks and coons.
ReplyDeleteSo says the hoodrat. Did you just call steve a Coon?
Awwwww...she thinks she is better then everyone, but everyone thinks she is just a hoodrat. How can someone be so educated yet remain so stupid and unable to speak english? Even Steve hates her guts but now is looking for another friend to play in the sandbox because he and MOLD got it all wet when they pissed on each other or was that ejaculate after they "touched" each other?
Steve, now that you are out, are you a catcher or a pitcher? Or both?
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ReplyDeleteLooks like Arnold has a love child.
ReplyDeleteOh well, gotta love that Repub "Conservatism".
Now imagine that, if the Constitution had been changed for the Terminator, we may have had a "baby daddy" in the white house.
And NO suprises here, it would have been a white man, LOL!!!
Hey, a black racist negro called me a racist goober. Cool.
ReplyDeleteSomehow though, it didn't quite work. How about cracker?
Meanwhile, I'll have to check out the sites you mentioned.
Summary for today: the same people who constantly complain about civil rights are presented with a story in which the police violated the civil rights of a white person acting legally. The police and prosecutor retaliate via unfair use of their vast power, when they get "showed up". But the hypocrites here are for... THE POLICE!!!!
Good luck to SPC and slappz and the others, with swimming in the sea of double standards. Though it has to be said that all are not alike - who would have figured.
(That was still a funny line, though. Dang.)
See you all tomorrow.
" Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteI guess there's a little truth to what you're saying Steve. I think it boils down to the fact that most Black folks have enough "issues" to deal with in our real lives without spending what little free time we do have on a blog being harasseed/stalked to hell and back by a bunch of hicks and coons.
So says the hoodrat. Did you just call steve a Coon?
Awwwww...she thinks she is better then everyone, but everyone thinks she is just a hoodrat. How can someone be so educated yet remain so stupid and unable to speak english? Even Steve hates her guts but now is looking for another friend to play in the sandbox because he and MOLD got it all wet when they pissed on each other or was that ejaculate after they "touched" each other?
Steve, now that you are out, are you a catcher or a pitcher? Or both?
2:54 PM"
Oh, take my word for it...Semen 1st Class Steve was definitely a catcher. Especially with the long balls.
So says the hoodrat. Did you just call steve a Coon?
ReplyDeleteAwwwww...she thinks she is better then everyone, but everyone thinks she is just a hoodrat. How can someone be so educated yet remain so stupid and unable to speak english?anon wit sense
there was a book written some years ago about people who r so stoopid that they truly have no clue as to how incompetent they r sadly these assholes tend to be ambitious and utterly blind like sarah palin bytch aint ha no sense and no brain but she gots big balls though jess like wannabe da kimqueef over here admittedly she gots a big dick and balls or he whatever it is but gawds kimqueef ain ha no sense and ain ha no brain at all!
Queen,
ReplyDeleteLet's see if the rightwing media goes after Arnold the same way they ripped Jesse Jackson who didn't hold any public office.
Don't hold your breath though.
Dr.Queen said...
ReplyDeleteLooks like Arnold has a love child.
Oh well, gotta love that Repub "Conservatism".
Now imagine that, if the Constitution had been changed for the Terminator, we may have had a "baby daddy" in the white house.
And NO suprises here, it would have been a white man, LOL!!!
Sorry Queentee-fah, keep up with the times, he is a RHINO a true democratic person who calls himself republican.
even senile steve cannot bring himself to address u as doctor since ure not a doctor nor will u ever be one kim da queefkin
ReplyDeleteArnold ain't a "Minister of the Lord", either, preaching to Bill Clinton about banging Lewinsky, while Jesse was banging his hoochie all the while.
ReplyDeleteOne is a philanderer. The other is a philandering hypocrite.
Of course, I don't expect you to recognize that difference.
Oh, take my word for it...Semen 1st Class Steve was definitely a catcher. Especially with the long balls.
ReplyDeleteNow that is funny, how you Doing Queen Que-fa?
Hey Field speaking of guns and criminality do you think the thieves at the Big Banks the hedge fund managesrs and the Wall Street hustlers will ever be brought to justice.
ReplyDeleteThe monies they took and the lives they wrecked has nothing on the boyz in the hood.
Did you see in the NY Times today that the Attorney General is investigating the crooks. The reader comments on the article are great too.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/17/business/17bank.html
white foreman, you wrote:
ReplyDeleteme: "The overall trend would remain the same, yet we wouldn't be hijacked with spikes that are caused by gambling activity."
Is there some market that's run according to your standards that reflects the pricing pattern you believe in?
Meanwhile, if the "trend" were to remain the same, then the prices would reach the same peaks and valleys, but get there at a slower pace. In other words, in your scenario it's likely that the weighted average price over a one-year stretch would be higher than the average in which swift up and down spikes occurred.
The main stat that explains the price spike(s) concerns how much money has flowed into buying contracts.
But not the contracts sold short? Again, you are fixated on the idea that a market is one-sided.
When the speculators decide that is a hot market, they pour in and drive prices up.
Up? How high is UP? When has a "hot market" boiled over? Do you believe speculators hear a bell ringing when the price peaks?
Is there a corresponding "cold market" in which price are driven down? Or is do the prices simply fall due to gravity?
Too much money chasing the contracts makes them rise.
Really? How many contracts are there? In your scenario, there are a fixed number of contracts and all that changes is the amoung of money moving into those contracts.
But we're discussing FUTURES contracts, which involve unknown quantities of commodities. Unknown quantities. Nevertheless, you seem to think the markets function in a world of certainties.
It's simple. It's not about too much money chasing the actual fuel, it's a temporary artifact of the gambling dens.
Based on your willingness to ignore my questions in a previous comment, in addition to your statements here, it remains obvious that your views of commodities markets and how those markets reflect human behavior were formed with the help of journalists who are mystified by both.
Speakine of banging hoochies AND divorcing wives who are in the hospital suffering from cancer while banging hoochies.....Newt is running for President.
ReplyDeleteCan a foreign national be Vice President?
Newt and Arnold would be a great ticket.
"The American Taxpayers aren't the only ones we like to fuck"
white foreman, you wrote:
ReplyDeleteIt is a false tale that speculators are needed in order for markets to work.
As I keep saying, it takes two to tango. If there is no one to buy a contract from a someone looking to hedge his risk, there is no market. You seem to think the buyer is evil.
YOu might want to keep in mind the fact that oil companies are pleased when they can sell FUTURE production for high prices. It means they have money for more drilling projects. But here in the US, Obama and his Department of Energy killjoys have gone a long way to cap the expansion of drilling, which is one way of minimizing future production, which is a factor in higher prices of oil futures.
If Obama were to announce that oil companies could drill anywhere and everywhere, oil prices would fall due to expectations of increasing supplies in the future.
Would prices drop to $30 or $40 and stay at that level? No. But $60? That's possible. $70? Probably.
Just like the fantasy that everybody benefits when jobs are exported to China.
No responsible and credible economist has ever made that statement. But plenty of irresponsible gasbags have probably made the claim.
Just like the fantasy that Wall St employs the 'best minds'.
No credible source will stand behind that statement either.
But here's what is true: When it comes to prices found in commodities markets, EVERYONE can register his opinion on the "right price" by buying or selling a contract. Geniuses, idiots, everyone, and almost instantly prices reach a clearing point.
uptownsteve said...
ReplyDeleteNewt and Arnold would be a great ticket.
"The American Taxpayers aren't the only ones we like to fuck"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
ROTFLMBAO!!!!!!
Obama 2012
mellaneous writes:
ReplyDeleteHey Field speaking of guns and criminality do you think the thieves at the Big Banks the hedge fund managesrs and the Wall Street hustlers will ever be brought to justice.
Who wrote the laws that permitted virtually anyone to borrow huge sums even though their credit ratings were lousy, their job prospects were poor and they had NO money for a downpayment?
Who allowed such idiocy to become law?
Of course everyone believed the house behind the mortgage would collateralize the loan. Thus, all the players believed they were safe from disaster.
Bottom line -- NO Laws Were Broken. Hence, no one is heading to jail.
Oh, maybe a couple of scammers who fleeced some grandmothers. But the latest investigation is a witch hunt to take the spotlight off Congress for having given its blessing to lenders willing to hand over billions of dollars to deadbeats.
This like OJ leading the search for the Real Killers of his ex-wife and Ron Goldman.
Or Wolfowitz and Pearle leading the search for WMD's in Iraq.
ReplyDeleteDr.Queen said...
ReplyDeleteuptownsteve said...
Newt and Arnold would be a great ticket.
"The American Taxpayers aren't the only ones we like to fuck"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
ROTFLMBAO!!!!!!
Obama 2012
I love it, bring it on. Let's get this thing called america over with quick. This way we can start over and not make the same "mistakes" again. No what I'm sayin? When it crashes there will be no doubt what caused it.
Rebuild we will, only this time no free rides, you can't make the grade or pay the fare you don't gets to ride the merry go round. woo-hoo!
Why yes, wite lad was sooo legal. Just ask him...and his extensive 'legal' knowledge.
ReplyDeleteFunny how the police deciding that some loser wite dude isn't worth police time...but the loser wants a confrontation...so he invents one.
Sooo brave...knowing the local officers treat him like the village idiot and therefore won't shoot. So, doofus goes outside the area, seeking validation for his much researcherated 'rites'.
Bet the police called in and got the word from his locals that he was a loser and a jerkhole...so they let him go. Pouty baby.
If he wants jihad so bad...let him enlist.
UTS, as posted, these are the Left Behinds who are miffed that the rest of the class has an understanding of the material. Instead of contributing, they seek disruption. While they thinkerate it is kewl and hawt and sooo showing the world how they are better...it shows that they are stoopids. And I care not that white folk participate...in an adult manner. This is an open forum...and the valid discussion is welcome.
Don't you-all recall what happened to the last Second 'Mendment blowhard?
Mold
RAPE VICTIM IN THE DOMINIGUE STRASS-KAHN ARREST IS AN AFRICAN IMMIGRANT. ACCORDING TO SOME FEMINIST WEBSITES HER NAME HAS BEEN RELEASED.
ReplyDeleteIf you missed the news about the president of the IMF, and potential president of France, Dominique (kosher)Strass Kahn was arrested for the rape of a maid, in New York, yesterday. As soon as I heard about the incident, my reaction was- this is pathological behavior. This man has probably been doing this for most of his life. Nevertheless, the French papers are crucifying the victim. Already top French intellectual,(I think he is living in New York)Bernard Henri Levy is outraged that a man of Strauss-Kahn's caliber would be held for such as crime. Will he be prosecuted? NO!
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Excerpt From article:
Dominique Strauss-Kahn accused of attempted rape of African maid
Strauss-Kahn appeared grim-faced and kept his mouth shut late Sunday night as he was taken, handcuffed, from the Manhattan office of the NYPD's special victims unit to the medical facility.
His accuser, described by a co-worker as a single mother of African descent, stared down the political star during a police lineup at the special victims unit.
She isn't the first woman to identify Strauss-Kahn as a sex fiend. Anne Mansouret, the mother of French TV reporter Tristane Banon, said that when her daughter interviewed Strauss-Kahn in 2002, he tried to attack her. Banon, goddaughter of Strauss-Kahn's second wife, spoke about the attack in a 2007 TV program, but Strauss-Kahn's name was bleeped. She described the politician as a "rutting chimpanzee" and claimed she had to kick and fight him off.
Sunday night, Mansouret told reporters in France that she regretted talking her daughter out of filing charges. " "I bear a heavy responsibility," Mansouret said.
The maid at the Sofitel hotel on W. 44th St. who accused Strauss-Kahn on Saturday told cops he was naked when he attacked her as she went to clean his $3,000-a-night suite. The maid, 32, told cops she tried to run away from the randy Frenchman, nicknamed both the "The Great Seducer" and "Hot Rabbit." But he chased her down a hallway and yanked her into a bedroom, she told police. He then dragged her into a bathroom, tried to strip off her panties and forced her to perform oral sex on him, police said.
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http://www.africanoutlookonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1818
I heard Strauss-Kahn had just called down to room service & ordered him up a ho dressed like a French maid.
ReplyDeleteJust a case of mistaken identity.
"If the peter wasn't bit; you must aquit"
Don Siegelman, anyone?
ReplyDeleteMichael Jackson, OJ, Clinton....the list of MSM guilty verdicts is long and should give us pause...particularly when they treat Brietbart and OKeefe as if those two and their cohorts were honest.
Did you not know how racist Sherrod is? Or that pimps could go to ACORN and make up poo. Or that Planned Parenthood was eveeel?
Mold
Shyt, I got shot at the last time I carried my piece son license and all. Love this post.
ReplyDeletefor outtatownsteve who lives in Camelot:
ReplyDeletePG Executive Jack Johnson, Wife Arrested!
Johnson Pleads Guilty To Charges
Former Prince George's County Executive Jack Johnson has pleaded guilty to charges of extortion and witness and evidence tampering.
uptownsteve said...
ReplyDeleteIf Fiorino was black, Sgt. Dougherty would have put one in the back of his head.
Dude, you aren't supposed to say that. We are in a "post-racial" era in A-merry-ca.
Johnny Cochran said...
ReplyDeleteI heard Strauss-Kahn had just called down to room service & ordered him up a ho dressed like a French maid.
Just a case of mistaken identity.
"If the peter wasn't bit; you must aquit"
I smell set up on this one. Strauss-Kahn literally managed a globe of money at one time. Are you telling me this man choose to sexually harass a lowly maid over purchasing a piece of ass in NYC?
Shiid.
"And you return and think everyone who already schooled you in this very bit of grammer has either left or forgotten. Typical liberal, can't hang with the content, it is over your head, so then try and discredit the source with something assinine. Well "YOUR" mistaken, we can still see your content even with the attempted distraction."
ReplyDeleteYeah anon, you still are too ashamed to create a name and still don't know proper grammar. I know, third grade English is a bitch huh? Maybe YOUR buddy can teach you some English after he/she/it teaches you how an expensive gas guzzling SUV is more efficient than a car with good gas mileage. Conservatives love to create their own little worlds in which they are always right and change the rules to make it so.
"So you believe in separatism, huh?"
ReplyDeleteNo Foreman, we just love having to read ignorant racist filth from ignorant hillbillies. Every sista and brotha should be so lucky.
Anonymous Rudy said...
ReplyDeleteAre you telling me this man choose to sexually harass a lowly maid over purchasing a piece of ass in NYC?
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YES!
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ReplyDeleteThis is why we carry firearms.
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ReplyDeleteHere is another reason why we carry firearms.