Thursday, September 04, 2014

Et tu, Bozo?

"Now there's some sad things known to man
But ain't too much sadder than
the tears of a clown When there's no one around..." ~Tears Of A Clown- Smokey Robinson~





I bet that clown in Memphis, Tennessee who lost his job because he let "color arousal" get the better of him is crying.




Not because he was exposed as a racist (heck he might be getting pats on the back from his like minded friends for that), but because he might not be able to get anymore gigs anytime soon.




Who wants to hire a clown that has "color arousal" issues?




Honestly, I never really liked clowns. I always found them to be kind of creepy. (I think they call it coulrophobia)That is, of course, until Homey D. Clown came along. I always liked Homey. Homey was a Field Clown, he didn't take any shit from the man.




I wonder how Homey would feel about the clown in this story.




Still, on some levels I almost feel bad for this clown. I mean clowns don't make a lot of money. Maybe he was forced to take a job as a clown because black folks were taking all the jobs in his area. You know, all that affirmative action and stuff.




Anyway, now he doesn't even have his clown job anymore.  I am sure that his family doesn't think that this is funny.




Finally, the lies and smears against a dead teenager in Ferguson, Missouri continues to unravel.




First it was the lie about Mike Brown having a major felony (or felonies) on his record at the time of his death. This was being spread by the right wing noise machine (I see you FOX VIEWS) to drum up support for officer Wilson and to further demonize the dead youth.




Now another lie has been debunked. This one, led by FOX, had Officer Wilson with a fractured eye socket. There was actually a picture posted of him on facebook to prove it.




There was just one little problem.



"On Tuesday, a Chicago firefighter named Kevin O’Grady posted this photo to Facebook, claiming it showed Ferguson, Missouri police officer Darren Wilson’s injuries following his shooting of unarmed teenager Michael Brown. He demanded to know why “the media” was not releasing this photo in the aftermath of the shooting. Over the course of two days, the post was shared more than 40,000 times.  
 
The only problem? That man isn’t Officer Darren Wilson. In fact, he doesn’t even look very much like him:


It was a commenter on the site Little Green Footballs that first debunked the hoax, discovering that the photo was actually of freestyle motocross rider Jim McNeil who died in 2011 after he suffered a crash during practice. The photo is from an earlier injury McNeil suffered in 2006.


Media outlets, including Fox News, have been reporting that Wilson sustained a fractured eye socket during his supposed physical confrontation with Brown since shortly after the incident occurred. CNN later disputed that account, citing sources that said Wilson’s x-rays came back negative for any facial fractures." [Source]


I can't wait to read about the next lie.


     


 


  














  


87 comments:

  1. Lilacpr8:00 PM

    It's a shame how a Black boy has to stand trial for his own murder!

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  2. Free Wilson!8:14 PM

    Well, we do know for sure that Mike Brown attacked Officer Wilson after robbing a convenience store, tried to take his gun, and then rushed him. So there's that.

    No amount of spin is going to change the fact that this was a justifiable shooting by Officer Wilson. The only thing this dissembling accomplishes is to rile up negroes as part of an electoral strategy.

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  3. FN said...
    CNN later disputed that account, citing sources that said Wilson’s x-rays came back negative for any facial fractures."


    Did michael attack the police officer or not?

    Simple answer FN, yes or no.



    Mike Brown having a major felony (or felonies) on his record at the time of his death

    Did Michael have any "minor" or non-serious felonies on his record?

    Another simple answer, yes or no.


    2 very simple questions a lawyer of your status could easily answer...



    *IF* your democrat rulers would let you.





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  4. "First it was the lie about Mike Brown having a major felony (or felonies) on his record at the time of his death. This was being spread by the right wing noise machine (I see you FOX VIEWS)'

    Links to where FOX NEWS reported Brown had a felony record has fact.

    Or was this another lie told by field?

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  5. ctrl+halt+del9:50 PM

    Unfortunately a young man lost his life for no reason other than the guy with a gun and a badge got confused and lost in the moment and made a poor choice.

    It's getting harder to troll black on black crime, when blue on black crime is rapidly on the rise. Most police officers never fire their weapons however, as of late we've witnessed a spate of violence perpetrated by poorly trained individuals who give the profession a bad name

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  6. When did Michael Brown become Mike Brown? Is this a attempt by the left at repackaging?

    "Now another lie has been debunked. This one, led by FOX, had Officer Wilson with a fractured eye socket."

    More lies from field.

    1. Fox wasn't the first to report from sources that Officer Wilson had a fractured eye socket.

    Which btw, has been confirmed by ABC, WAPO, and a few other media outlets.

    2. Have you seen the x-rays field? Did CNN get the x-rays?

    NO? How can you call it a lie? Say the story has been debunked?


    Field's Fox News Derangement Syndrome is getting worse by the day.

    Before long field will start to see little green men and think YT is out to get him.

    Oh wait.......

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  7. Anonymous10:07 PM

    ctrl said,
    Unfortunately a young man lost his life for no reason other than the guy with a gun and a badge got confused and lost in the moment and made a poor choice.
    ==============================

    Poor choice? Really? Lets see, the gentle giant robs a store, gets loaded, fight with the popo and tries to steal his gun, then comes back for more. Yeah, lets talk about poor choices. I'm surprised the CNS shot stopped the gentle giant because his brain had to be pea sized.

    QLB

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  8. Señor, please provide a link.

    Bill, the same goes for u. Please provide a link to show us that the murdered teen has a felony on his record.

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  9. Anonymous10:17 PM

    ctrl said,
    It's getting harder to troll black on black crime, when blue on black crime is rapidly on the rise. Most police officers never fire their weapons however, as of late we've witnessed a spate of violence perpetrated by poorly trained individuals who give the profession a bad name
    ================================

    More Black BS. 12 million arrests and only 400 fatal shooting per year. That's not even the Chicago death toll for Black on Black crime. You kill each other wholesale and when YT tries to give you a little help you bitch about it. Typical.

    QLB

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  10. Clowns are creepy.

    I am always unsure of the rules about how much of a person's past and past choices factors into how their crimes are dealt with in the criminal justice system.

    Field, if Michael Brown had a history of prior violent encounters, that resulted in police contact/petitions, (which is different from a conviction) would that information be provided to the Grand Jury as part of their deliberations?

    A history of violent/aggressive behavior will be important in this case, especially if he was "known" to police. If that is the case, that would have been a factor in how the officer chose to respond.

    But for the public gawkers - no, it doesn't matter. What matters is how the individuals involved in those few moments acted and the choices they made.

    On some blogs, people have tried to bring up even more extraneous details about Mike Brown that don't matter and alot of people are making great efforts to smear both parties.

    The chatter about competing "fund raising" GoFundMe accounts for various players in this drama is also depressing. Some people are treating this like a Crime Story version of the Army-Navy game. Sick.

    Sad that something so tragic is another example of street theatre for public consumption and entertainment.



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  11. ctrl+halt+del10:51 PM

    Qlb

    53 on the force, 2 dead in Ferguson in two weeks. I don't think you can turn a blind eye to that.

    I think if you are black (h/t to Dr Dyson) in Ferguson you are more likely to be shot by cop than anybody else.

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  12. Anonymous ctrl+halt+del said...

    Unfortunately a young man lost his life for no reason other than the guy with a gun and a badge got confused and lost in the moment and made a poor choice.

    It's getting harder to troll black on black crime, when blue on black crime is rapidly on the rise. Most police officers never fire their weapons however, as of late we've witnessed a spate of violence perpetrated by poorly trained individuals who give the profession a bad name

    9:50 PM

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    "Unfortunately a young man lost his life for no reason other than the guy with a gun and a badge got confused and lost in the moment and made a poor choice."

    That's a little than more than disingenuous. If we, who know nothing, really, rely on the various witness accounts that have been posted to YouTube, Mike Brown turned and confronted then "bull rushed" the officer after a physical "tussle" with the officer seated in his cruiser.

    I don't think the officer was "confused".

    If the witness accounts are accurate, Mike Brown lost his life because he made some very impulsive choices that led to a result of no "do-overs". Teens make incredibly stupid choices all the time, and, yes, many of them do lose their lives because of their poor choices. Teen drunk driving/designer drug use experimentation are other examples. That doesn't make the loss of life any less tragic, but let's not shift the blame for the consequences solely onto the officer and absolve Mike Brown of any blame.


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    1. 2-3 shots is defending yourself. An additional 3-4 shots including 2 on the top of the head is murder, plain and simple.

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  13. Anonymous11:02 PM

    "First it was the lie about Mike Brown having a major felony (or felonies) on his record at the time of his death. This was being spread by the right wing noise machine (I see you FOX VIEWS) to drum up support for officer Wilson and to further demonize the dead youth.




    Now another lie has been debunked. This one, led by FOX, had Officer Wilson with a fractured eye socket. There was actually a picture posted of him on facebook to prove it."

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    Field, for most Whites, the more dead Blacks there are, the better. And it doesn't matter who or where they are. That is clear. Again, let me say that oppression by Whites has been going on since slavery. Like QLB and Bill, most, but not all, don't give a damn about about the lives of bm, let alone justice, when it comes to Blacks.

    They are evil and proud of it.

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  14. "It's getting harder to troll black on black crime, when blue on black crime is rapidly on the rise. Most police officers never fire their weapons however, as of late we've witnessed a spate of violence perpetrated by poorly trained individuals who give the profession a bad name".

    Black on black crime hasn't decreased with a black President and black AG. I think by some measures, it's actually increased. Using terms like "gun violence" is also disingenuous because it attempts to deflect from the reality that it is people behind the guns who create the violence, not the GUNS. PEOPLE make the choice to kill other people, and they don't always use guns. Whether or not it is a subject for "trolling", it is something that must be discussed honestly, even painfully.

    As for your comments about the calibre of officers, I would have to concur. My husband is retired US military and remains friendly with several people who had worked for him who are now on various forces and have been professional officers for some 20+ years. They lament that the demand for staffing for the ridiculous "War on Terror" and plus-up of the military depleted the ranks of priority candidates for police forces.

    However, based on some of the information that was published before this event became over-politicized/radicalized, it would appear that Officer Wilson was no "rogue cop" but a dedicated officer who had won awards and elected to stay in the community, rather than move on to better paying pastures, as many before him had done.

    One of the things that has alarmed me greatly is the aggressive policing and ramp up of military-style policing. That is definitely something ALL Americans should work together to push back, but making this about race instead of focusing on the issue will guarantee that won't happen ... which is exactly the way many people want it to remain.

    Another issue I found interesting about Ferguson was the court money machine. Many years ago I had posted about the rise of debtors prison where people are jailed for the most minor offenses if they don't have the money to pay the fine ... a very vicious war on the poor. Seems that's how Ferguson is supplementing its budget.

    Ferguson isn't the only community being terrorized by the very people its citizens thought were supposed to be working FOR them, not working to fleece them.

    Again, make it about "race" and not the issue, and it's a non-starter.

    Join forces with other communities who are also victims of the same predatory behaviour, and you could get this to go somewhere.

    I think it is much much harder to get out of the poverty trap now than it was 10 years ago, and that is true whether you are black or white.

    But dividing the people who are trapped is a good way of making sure they don't join forces to really change things.

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  15. Anonymous11:02 PM

    ctrl wrote,
    53 on the force, 2 dead in Ferguson in two weeks. I don't think you can turn a blind eye to that.
    ---------------------------------------------

    If your people learned how to act and didn't commit as many crimes do you think that would happen as often?

    QLB

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  16. If your people learned how to act and didn't commit as many crimes do you think that would happen as often?

    QLB

    11:02 PM

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    The real issue is the choice of those on the lower rungs of the socioeconomic ladder try and find personal validation in guns, drugs and "easy money".

    It's not just a "black" issue - Eminem raps about it in the underclass white community. The small community in Northern Ontario I worked in had many teens who had no interest in completing high school let alone learn how to open/run a business because their "plan" was to have an out of wedlock kid and deal drugs for the "cush".

    How gun violence evolved as a way of showing social dominance/power/status in the underclass black community and why is the third rail of these discussions.

    It's much easier to glibly snark,
    "blacks are criminals" without any caveats.

    The majority of black and mixed-race citizens are law-abiding people who are grinding it out like everyone else that isn't black or mixed race and trying to catch their piece of the American dream.

    My older daughter had intended to volunteer at a free medical clinic in Appalachia when she was a pharmacy tech and she was told not to because it was "too dangerous". I don't think there were any blacks at all in the most recent census in the part of the state she had considered volunteering.

    However, that type of violence/mayhem takes place out of sight of the media because it doesn't happen in major cities where THEY roost, ergo, it's not important enough to catalogue.

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  17. Anonymous11:21 PM

    Some people always want to talk about Black on Black crime...well here's some figures:

    Crimes by race in America:

    Whites commit 70 percent of all crimes in America

    Whites 50 percent of murders

    Whites 65 percent of forcible rape

    Whites 68 percent of aggravated
    assault (attempted murder)

    Whites 73 percent of sex crimes (child molestations, lewdness, etc)

    Whites 67 percent of burglaries

    Whites 85 percent of drunk drivers (4,500 people killed by whites...more than Blacks murdered)

    Whites 67 percent of drug abusers

    Whites 66 percent of crimes against the family

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

    Whites commit 7 out of 10 crimes in America...Blacks live in certain areas...whites are all over...86 percent of the time it's white on white crime...you're much more likely to be a victim of white crime than Black.

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  18. field negro said...
    Bill, the same goes for u. Please provide a link to show us that the murdered teen has a felony on his record.



    You (Lawyer) made the legal distinction he didn't have a "major" felony on his record.

    Did he have a "minor" or non-serious felony on his record?

    If you know for a fact he doesn't have a "major" felony don't you know for a fact if he had a minor felony?

    Why the refusal to answer?

    No crickets now FN.



    Did you miss the question if Michael attacked the cop?



    I would ask again except I know I have backed you into a political corner.


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  19. Anonymous11:24 PM

    Thank goodness the media is on the Ferguson case and exposing all the huge White lies about Michael Brown.

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  20. Black on black crime hasn't decreased with a black President and black AG. I think by some measures, it's actually increased.
    >>>>>>>

    Why would anyone assume that Black on Black crime would decrease when most of the factors that lead people to a life of crime STILL exist with a Black prez and AG?

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  21. Yīshēng said...

    2-3 shots is defending yourself. An additional 3-4 shots including 2 on the top of the head is murder, plain and simple.

    11:18 PM

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    Tuesday morning armchair quarter backing is always easy-peasy.

    Have you ever trained with a weapon? Drawn your weapon? Been in a tense situation where you could be risking your life and potentially taking another's?

    It isn't as easy or cut and dried as the TeeVee would have you believe. There's the adrenaline surge and the urgency to make a choice.

    I'm not willing to condemn the officer, because all of the facts are not known to "us". What I do know is that there has been unremittant spin by actors who have other motives than doing what is best for the families and the community.

    My heart does go out to the mother, Lesley McSpadden. From all accounts, she tried to do the right thing - hectoring him to finish high school, to think about and plan for work that would allow him to be self-sufficient and would give him a sense of pride and purpose. Teens make really dumb choices all the time, and parents are helpless to prevent them from doing so.
    She doesn't deserve to be thrust into this whirlwind for everyone's perverse thrill seeking and chatter.

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  22. Why would anyone assume that Black on Black crime would decrease when most of the factors that lead people to a life of crime STILL exist with a Black prez and AG?

    11:24 PM

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    Because the majority of white people who voted for Obama naively thought he would have unique insight into how to tackle the root of the problem.

    Instead, they found out he wasn't some healer of the planet but your typical politrickster who was more concerned about his take and making sure his entourage and big contributors got their pay-offs.

    Tell me again why Jon Corzine isn't in jail?

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    1. Did White folks really believe that the President, who was raised by a White woman, would have insight into Black on Black crime? Absolutely absurd!

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  23. Anonymous11:30 PM


    Anon, "Whites commit 7 out of 10 crimes in America...Blacks live in certain areas...whites are all over...86 percent of the time it's white on white crime...you're much more likely to be a victim of white crime than Black."


    11:21 PM
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    Brother Anon, do you really believe what you just said? I mean, come on. Negroes are getting robbed and killed left and right. But it's not by the wm, it's by us Blacks. I don't even know how or why you even bothered to list such statistics because they don't mean jack shit to me who lives in a non-White community. I mean, get real.

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  24. ctrl+halt+del11:30 PM

    @Anon test blog

    You are right. The question is state of mind.

    Did the officer decide to shoot before the alleged altercation, during the confrontation or after his realization that he was in over his head.

    Why not just follow, observe and call for backup.

    This is a clear case of manifest density. What else could it be?

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  25. On another note, it's funny how the US Open crowd cheers for the underdog unless the underdog is Black.

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  26. Whites commit 7 out of 10 crimes in America...Blacks live in certain areas...whites are all over...86 percent of the time it's white on white crime...you're much more likely to be a victim of white crime than Black.

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    Not this again ....sigh. You leave for a few years, you come back to find ....nothing's changed.

    Blacks constitute approximately 13% of the US population. They commit just under 40% of the violent crimes.

    The other issue is hispanic/latinos are deemed "white" when in fact they are not. Many lower income hispanics share the same criminal impulses that is found in that segment of the black population.

    My father in law owns a building in a poor section of Queens, NY. Many of the people are very poor Eastern European immigrants who don't even speak English. The balance are poor PR. The neighborhood is kept tidy and doesn't feel "unsafe" - in fact, it has a strong sense of community and people helping each other.

    Go four blocks south to Bed-Stuy and you've entered another world. No crime in the neat and tidy but poor Queens, 6 shootings majority black Bed-Stuy.

    Clearly, income and geography aren't the issues.

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    1. Double sigh.

      Here's another stat. 98% of Blacks do NOT commit crimes and the 2% who do mainly commit crimes among themselves.

      Of that 40% how many were targeted/wrongly convicted?

      Racial profiling at it's best. Unless you think choking guy to death for previously selling singles is a good use of the NYPD'S time.

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  27. Yīshēng said...

    Did White folks really believe that the President, who was raised by a White woman, would have insight into Black on Black crime? Absolutely absurd!

    11:35 PM

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    Yes, they did. Even though is "track record" of actually solving the problems and helping his constituents in the South side of Chicago were is pretty much .... zero ... they ignored that inconvenient factoid and saw him as a magician who would magically solve intractible problems.

    From the few conversations I've had with various blacks I've interacted with during my daily transactions in my brief time here, the theme seems to be that many black people turned out to vote for him because of a sense of pride and more important, a sense of validation and acceptance that finally a black person had reached the highest office in the country.

    The other sense I got from them was a profound sense of not disappointment exactly but a deep wounding with the knowledge that just because large numbers of whites voted for him, that didn't translate into any meaningful sense of acceptance and respect as full citizens in the complete sense of the world.

    And whites thought by voting for a black man, blacks would finally stop "complaining" about racial issues and we could all just "move on". The fact that that hasn't happened has them just completely pissed off and unwilling to even deal with the issues any more.

    Really sad on both sides.

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  28. Deputy Anon11:43 PM

    DAYUM! TEST BLOG BE KICKING AZZ ON HERE TONIGHT !!!


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  29. Anonymous11:47 PM

    Test blog...how does anything you posted change those stats?

    Hispanics are Black also...so you're saying that the Black Hispanics are lumped into the "white" category too...not likely.

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  30. Anonymous11:50 PM

    Test Blog said...
    "From the few conversations I've had with various blacks I've interacted with during my daily transactions in my brief time here,"
    11:42 PM
    <<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    You speak as though where you come from/live there are no black people at all! Where is that pray tell? Because the majority of black people are at the bottom rung of the economical ladder all over. And because of this their problems are all the same where ever.

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  31. Why not just follow, observe and call for backup.

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    Again, Tuesday morning quarter-backing.
    We all want to rerun the plays to be the perfect plays. That's not life.

    I personally have never been in that situation. I can only speak from second-hand accounts from my dear husband and from others close to him who serve as PD.

    When he served, my husband was in some pretty hairy situations which involved split second decision making about taking a life.

    When the eye witness accounts described Brown first assaulting the officer than charging/ "bull rushing" him (which I am given to understand is some type of football offensive maneuver), the officer was probably in a position where he feared for his own life. A 300 # angry individual, black, white or purple, charging you, doesn't leave you the option of "following" and "observing".

    I am interested in the results of the full tox report, not because I want to use that to try and condemn Brown, but because it may give people a more complete picture of the emotions of the various actors in this tragic play.

    I've heard accounts from more than one PD of dealing with individuals who are on particular street drugs that make them hyper aggressive. Our military faced the same in Iraq and the Stan.

    Everyone seems to be lining up to pick "teams" - you're either on Team Brown or Team Wilson it seems. Being on the "right team" appears to be more important than dispassionately dissecting the facts.

    You know who I will be really angry about if he skates? Mr. Pinocchio himself, Dorian Johnson. I can't prove it, but as a mom who raised some kids, my gut tells me Pinocchio took advantage of Mike Brown and groomed him to be his "muscle".

    From his mom's own accounts, Brown struggled in school, which is why his graduation was such a triumph for the family. He had beaten the odds. That same academic struggle may have translated into low self esteem and being the "big guy" and "enforcer" may have given him a sense of external validation that he craved.

    Unfortunately, there was no one older and wiser around to peel Brown back from his very unwise and heartbreakingly immature decisions in his encounter with Wilson.

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  32. I wonder if Hannity will admit he was wrong about officer Wilson having a broken eye socket. Don't hold your breath. Also there were several posters here who claimed Mike was a felon but conservatives never admit fault.

    Field, did you see the video of the brotha in St. Paul who was tazed in front of his kids while he was trying to pick them up? Very disturbing.

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  33. You speak as though where you come from/live there are no black people at all! Where is that pray tell? Because the majority of black people are at the bottom rung of the economical ladder all over. And because of this their problems are all the same where ever.

    11:50 PM

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    Yes. Where I currently live outside of the US there are no black people.
    None.

    So I'm not going to presume to understand the "black experience" as it has been felt during the past few years here.

    Sometimes it's easier to be honest with complete strangers you know you'll never meet again.

    We're staying in a fairly nice corporate apartment, and there are a few black people also staying here. Given the daily rate here, I don't think they are at the "bottom of the rung" economically or socially.

    But I've also struck up some pretty interesting convos with the guy that owns the restaurant we've been hitting for breakfast, with the very pleasant young man working at the Harris Teeter who explained why you can't buy wine in grocery stores in Maryland and gave excellent directions to a wine/liquor store close by, the maid here while she was waiting for her son to pick her up (really really nice lady) and so on.

    I never stated they are the sum of the black experience or our brief convos reflected that. I was just interested in taking the pulse of people who had lived a very different experience from me to try and see the issues through their eyes.

    So shoot me for caring.

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  34. Yīshēng said...

    Double sigh.

    "Here's another stat. 98% of Blacks do NOT commit crimes and the 2% who do mainly commit crimes among themselves."
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    EXACTLY. The majority of us are just trying to live our lives and raise our families the best way we can with the resources we have at our disposal.
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    "Of that 40% how many were targeted/wrongly convicted?

    Racial profiling at it's best. Unless you think choking guy to death for previously selling singles is a good use of the NYPD'S time."

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    I can't speak to targeting/wrongful conviction. But making excuses for those who do make the wrong choices and do commit crime won't help us collectively to deal with the underclass who DO.

    And that includes white collar crime. Apparently all it takes is some strategically placed donations to the winning team and you are good-to-go!
    Who cares what misery you create or how many deaths you may tangentially caused, because you're never going to be held accountable for your crimes -- you got cover at the highest possible levels!!

    As far as the choking death ... I think the victim's name was Garner (not sure). I watched the video on YT and it was stomach-turning.

    THAT is exactly the type of out of control PD behavior that we ALL need to push back against -- and focus on the behavior, not the race.

    I don't doubt that race played a big role, but as my dear husband has patiently taught me over the years, sometimes we have to ignore the obvious if we want to win. You can be right, or you can be victorious. Sometimes you can't have both.

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  35. ctrl+halt+del12:25 AM

    @test blog 1020p
    "I am always unsure...."

    Then what is your point?

    "especially if he was "known" to police."

    If the shooter didn't know that's all the more reason to call for backup


    @ 11p
    "I don't think...."
    How about I don't know.

    @ 1102
    "depleted the ranks of priority candidates for police forces.
    On this we agree.

    @1155
    "I personally have never been in that situation.
    Is this what you mean by Monday morning quarterback?

    Did your husband ever shoot a civilian?

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  36. Who wants to hire a clown that has "color arousal" issues?

    Roger Ailes.

    -Doug in Oakland

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  37. Anonymous12:27 AM

    Test Blog said...
    "Yes. Where I currently live outside of the US there are no black people.
    None.
    So I'm not going to presume to understand the "black experience" as it has been felt during the past few years here.
    So shoot me for caring.
    12:01 AM
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Caring from afar. That's really nice and comfy. You don't know wtf you're talking about!

    You must be that nice white lady that comes on here from time to time and writes about how she is all upper class and S&i#!

    Where you "live there are no black people! None!" Give me a f****** break will ya!


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  38. ctrl+halt+del12:31 AM

    " A 300 # angry individual, black, white or purple, charging you, doesn't leave you the option of "following" and "observing"."

    Quite the contrary, that's all the more reason to follow, observe and call for backup.

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  39. Deputy Anon12:34 AM

    Well I think the general consensus is that Test Blog lady has $#(+ herself, so I guess it's lady go home to Costa Rica where "there are no Black people" HUH??? Place is filled with them LOL! Filled to the brim! Lady is clueless, or blind!
    Good luck lady! :)

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  40. ctrl+halt+del12:36 AM

    @anon test blog

    "I am interested in the results of the full tox report,"

    Did the shooter receive testing? Isn't that material, too?

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  41. Yīshēng said...
    Did White folks really believe that the President, who was raised by a White woman, would have insight into Black on Black crime? Absolutely absurd!



    Or someone raised by middle class bank vice president to have any insight on being poor.

    Or attending private schools having any insight on government education.

    Or attending the most prestigious universities to have any insight to working their way through college.

    Or having limited real life work experience would have any insight to small businesses.

    Or being the leader of the choom gang would have any insight to marijuana.


    I wonder why so many of his voters actually believed this absurdity the media kept telling us.


    "this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal"

    I wonder why obama believed the absurdity the media kept telling us.



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  42. Bill is a F'n retard12:46 AM

    "Not all unarmed dead black people shot in the back and the head are equal to democrats."

    What do you mean by democrats dumbass? Were her friends and family Republicans? If they are democrats do they not care about her? You are one dumb sommabitch Bill!

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  43. so I guess it's lady go home to Costa Rica where "there are no Black people" HUH??? Place is filled with them LOL! Filled to the brim! Lady is clueless, or blind!
    Good luck lady! :)

    12:34 AM

    ----------------------------------

    I don't live in Costa Rica. In fact, I've never been there. Ever.

    We've been invited to stay in Costa Rica with a family we've known for years. Our daughters competed in the same sport, and there is a big competition being held in San Jose. Our daughters are both competing, and they've invited us to stay with them and watch our daughters.

    I'm aware that there are black people in Costa Rica. I've also been told that it has become a very popular retirement spot for Americans, who are driving up the prices of everything for native Costa Ricans.

    In any event, I hope to have a good time and see some beautiful country and eat some amazing food. Our hosts are lovely people, so I am sure we will see the parts of Costa Rica most tourists don't.

    I do appreciate your concern, though.

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  44. Where you "live there are no black people! None!" Give me a f****** break will ya!


    12:27 AM

    -------------------------------

    Why the anger and hostility? You don't accept that there are, in fact, places in the world where there are no black people?

    We stayed briefly in a part of the Lake District of Chile. There were native Chileans, but no blacks where we were.

    We currently hang in a small and very old medieval city in an Eastern European country. We're currently leasing an apartment in a converted tithing storage barn from around 1400 or so. And yes, there are no blacks there. None. Zip. Zilch.

    But thanks for your concern.
    And I popped my head in hoping to engage with interesting commenters like StillaPanther to get a sense of how they are seeing things, since they have a depth of experience.

    I don't know who you are, and given your hostility, no longer care.

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  45. Deputy Anon1:34 AM

    Okay,okay, calm down folks all this name calling could lead to violence! and the test lady gettin' uppity with the Deputy huh?

    I'ma have to have my taser ready!

    !0-4 This is Deputy Anon calling for back up, Sheriff BIB where are you? There's a new uppity lady in town got the citizens all riled up over heah! and don't forget your guns this time please, you may have to shoot someone to establish law and ordah! 10-4 and ovah!

    Sheesh, some people! No blacks where she lives! Give me a break lady,okay!

    Plenty of blacks here though. You sure gonna get your fill Ahahaha!

    I need my taser!

    Is your plane from Tailand lady? I certainly hope so,hehehehe



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  46. Did your husband ever shoot a civilian?

    12:25 AM

    --------------------------------

    I don't know. He isn't allowed to really talk about in any detail his experiences and prefers not to. He only really opens up around his fellow veterans.

    One of the few examples he has shared with me involved a tense standoff at a checkpoint where a group of Hajjii crowded the up armored HumVee they were in, and refused to disperse even when told to in Iraqi dialect Arabic. They came very close to opening up on the crowd, apparently. It was a very tense few minutes.

    That being said, he is not happy with the response of the PD in Ferguson with the military style tactics and equipment. I try to not get him started because it tends to ruin my evening.

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  47. Plenty of blacks here though. You sure gonna get your fill Ahahaha!

    -----------------------------------

    Sadly, it appears that you have run off most of the erudite and eloquent black commenters.

    Snark comments may make you feel like you're scoring some type of "points" in whatever perverse score keeping system you've internally set up, but it doesn't add anything to the discussion.

    I started commenting here around the time when Obama became a real possibility for the Democratic nominee in the runup to the 2008 election. This blog was one of the few places that didn't censor people and tried to foster a dialogue.

    That was then, and your inane comments are .... now.

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  48. Deputy Anon2:05 AM

    Test Blog said...
    Sadly, it appears that you have run off most of the erudite and eloquent black commenters.
    1:40 AM
    <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>

    Aaawwww! Why all the anger and hostility Lady Testy? It's
    all in good fun!

    Well now you're here so it appears we finally have some "erudite" back right?

    Well I'll tell ya if you came here from your "all white enclave" to get a "feeling for what's happening with the Black populace. You have come to the right place!

    This here blog is filled with us Blacks, so stick around and get a feel.

    I'm sure your old time friends/commenters will show up as soon as they read your comments and see you're back on here to class up the place as well asc"get a sense of what's happening with us, cause "you care"!

    Don't mind us, we just like to get at the truth and you write such a bunch of see through lies, ahahaha! But do carry on, just don't mind our calling you on it. That's just how we roll around here ;D.

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  49. Anonymous Bill said...

    The Purple Cow said...
    No, the question is, who gives a kipper's dick?


    AGAIN PurpleCow exhibits his obsession with the male anatomy."


    Male anatomy?

    A kipper is a smoked herring....

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  50. Free-range Negro2:23 AM

    Anonymous said...
    Whites 50 percent of murders
    ===
    That number is inflated as, get this, the FBI counts hispanics as white when they commit a crime, but hispanic when they are the victim of a crime.

    Neat trick, huh?

    Blacks commit 50% of the murders in America, yet comprise only 13% of the population.

    Do you understand statistics?

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  51. Kersey3:00 AM

    No white person fears being the victim of "white on white" crime, because crime committed by white people is overwhelmingly personal, whereas black on black crime is impersonal, arbitrary, and utterly savage in nature.

    No one in their right mind has ever even uttered the words "white on white" crime, because such concentrated criminality by white people is found nowhere in America.

    But black on black crime is found wherever black people in America are found, meaning those living near America's permanent underclass must be mindful of the negative effects of such concentrated criminality.

    When you see a food desert, immediately know the threat of black on black crime is near.

    When you see boarded up buildings, where formerly business was conducted and a community flourished, know the threat of black on black crime is near.

    The collapse of property value in metro St. Louis and all of America is entirely a black phenomenon. White people flee the biological detritus of unwed black mothers, the bad schools their progeny inherently create and the poverty that proliferates courtesy of the crime committed by individual blacks that inhibits any outside capital investment due to the high risk/no reward scenario.

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  52. Anon above, u might want to reconsider that statement about savagery. I could start.giving u some links but I have to be in court by 10:00 this morning.

    Karen, I see u picking up right where u left off.

    One thing, though, do not feed the trolls. We have a new crop.

    Bill, again, please.provide a link as proof that Michael Brown has a felony on his record. (Any felony)

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  53. Anonymous7:41 AM

    "I bet that clown in Memphis, Tennessee who lost his job because he let 'color arousal' get the better of him is crying.
    Not because he was exposed as a racist (heck he might be getting pats on the back from his like minded friends for that), but because he might not be able to get anymore gigs anytime soon."


    Meh. He'll be fine. Landing a gig blowing up balloons and cracking corny jokes at a kid's birthday party probably doesn't require a particularly demanding background check.

    Plus, it's Tennessee. Even though it's not the Deep South, it is, nonetheless, the South. Down that way, they're still extra laid-back about the whole racism thing. Just sayin'.

    "On Tuesday, a Chicago firefighter named Kevin O’Grady posted this photo to Facebook, claiming it showed Ferguson, Missouri police officer Darren Wilson’s injuries following his shooting of unarmed teenager Michael Brown. He demanded to know why 'the media' was not releasing this photo in the aftermath of the shooting."

    This is why you shouldn't trust the rumors and innuendo coughed up by your social media network grapevine -- unless you've independently verified it, or it includes a link to a reputable news source. (FYI: Fox News is not remotely a reputable news source. Neither are Breitbart, the Daily Caller, or (lol) WorldNetDaily. Those are right-wing bullshit factories.)

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  54. This is a bad time for race relations in America.

    When has there ever been a good time?

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  55. Field

    Keep em honest! Michael Brown has no felony as an adult or as a juvie! Not unless the PWTB made one up??

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  56. PilotX said...
    I wonder if Hannity will admit he was wrong about officer Wilson having a broken eye socket. Don't hold your breath. Also there were several posters here who claimed Mike was a felon but conservatives never admit fault.


    Please provide a link to Wilson's x-rays that prove "Hannity" was wrong.

    Can't? Didn't think so.


    field negro said...
    Bill, again, please.provide a link as proof that Michael Brown has a felony on his record. (Any felony)


    How can Bill do that when Brown's full record hasn't been released?



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  57. Fed: Under Obama, only the richest 10 percent saw incomes rise

    Under President Obama, the richest 10 percent were the only income group of Americans to see their median incomes rise, according to a survey released this week by the Federal Reserve.

    The Fed data covered the years 2010-2013, during which period Mr. Obama constantly campaigned against income inequality and won re-election by painting his Republican rival as a tool of Wall Street plutocrats.

    “Data from the 2013 [Survey of Consumer Finances] confirm that the shares of income and wealth held by affluent families are at modern historically high levels,” the report said in noting that the median income fell for every 10-percent grouping except the most affluent 10 percent.

    “The 2013 SCF reveals substantial disparities in the evolution of income and net worth since the previous time the survey was conducted, in 2010,” the report stated. The SCF is conducted by the Federal reserve triennially and compiles information about family incomes, credit use, net worth and finances.



    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/4/incomes-fell-most-families-past-three-years-while-/#ixzz3CRT9wyoU
    Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter



    Just more proof Obama's policies are working for the poor and middle class.


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  58. The Purple Cow said...

    AGAIN PurpleCow exhibits his obsession with the male anatomy."

    Male anatomy?

    A kipper is a smoked herring....



    Do you believe female kipper fish have dicks?

    So yes, male anatomy.


    Sometimes I wonder if you even think about what you write.

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  59. Lilacpr10:24 AM

    Anonymous Bill said...
    If he didn't have any felonies at all the headline would be "NO felonies of any kind.
    Instead, it's "no serious felonies."
    10:11 AM
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Well I think you have to admit that in a place like Ferguson where a Black kid can cop a legal offense/court case just for jaywalking, or dropping a gum wrapper on the sidewalk,or giving the side eye to a cat, or just what ever those super racist cops decide to pin on them! I wouldn't be surprised if they'd actually pinned a minor "crime" such as that on them! Just to give them a rap sheet and screw them up!

    Given the history of those officers and that precinct, and their hostile treatment of the Black citizens there, I would not be surprised at all. In fact I would expect it!

    So it's really all relative isn't it? and it also remains to be seen,

    So now I want to see the entire report also! I'm pretty sure it will reflect much worse on the Fergusun police department than on Michael Brown.





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  60. field negro said...
    Anon above, u might want to reconsider that statement about savagery. I could start.giving u some links but I have to be in court by 10:00 this morning.
    >>>>>>>

    So it's okay for YOU to talk about being in court at 10, but I can't talk about a seminar I have to attend at 11 about developing NLP (natural language processing) systems to extract information from clinical documents using IBM Content Analytics at a major cancer center?

    Da' ish just ain't right Field, just ain't right ROTFL!!!

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  61. Lilacpr10:37 AM

    Hey Yisheng, you tell it! We be learned and edumacated too! :)

    Represent!

    Have a good seminar! and come back soon. Today's fun Saturday! ;D



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  62. Lilacpr10:39 AM

    Ahahaha! I mean it feels like Saturday ahahaha! Oh s***tusky I'm a day ahead of myself!

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  63. Anonymous10:42 AM

    Field,

    I know it is a free country but you hvae a few "nuts" following every thread on here. Your nutty friends(groupies) need a post, I say!

    Keep up the good work, their comments are signs of your diligence.

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  64. LaCubanadeMatanzas said...

    Field

    Keep em honest! Michael Brown has no felony as an adult or as a juvie! Not unless the PWTB made one up??
    ---

    Attacking a police officer and trying to take his gun is a felony, and one likely to get you killed, as Michael Brown found out.

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  65. Anonymous11:11 AM

    Anonymous Lilacpr said...
    Well I think you have to admit that in a place like Ferguson where a Black kid can cop a legal offense/court case just for jaywalking, or dropping a gum wrapper on the sidewalk,or giving the side eye to a cat, or just what ever those super racist cops decide to pin on them! I wouldn't be surprised if they'd actually pinned a minor "crime" such as that on them! Just to give them a rap sheet and screw them up!
    ----

    You don't know anything at all about Ferguson, yet you repeat the worst kind of slander against the men and women of the Ferguson police force.

    Why?

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  66. Yīngyang Token said...
    So it's okay for YOU to talk about being in court at 10, but I can't talk about a seminar I have to attend at 11 about developing NLP (natural language processing) systems to extract information from clinical documents using IBM Content Analytics at a major cancer center?

    Da' ish just ain't right Field, just ain't right ROTFL!!!
    ----

    Rolling on the floor laughing? Really?

    You know what would be funny? Hearing you try to explain exactly how you would set up and implement a data mining system using NLP. I'll bet you don't understand half the words you hear everyday while hanging around with actual smart people. But hey, it's America, every one with enough melanin can pretend they are a doctor. What a country!

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  67. CNN’s Amanpour Mocks Hillary Shovel Photo: ‘Trying to Unearth an ISIS Strategy?

    CNN Chief International Correspondent Christiane Amanpour took a swipe at Hillary Clinton Thursday over a photo the former secretary of state posted on Twitter.

    The photo shows Clinton along with current Secretary of State John Kerry and the four other former U.S. chief diplomats with shovels in their hands. The group was in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday for the groundbreaking ceremony of a new museum.

    “I’ve broken bread with all of my fellow #SecStates but we’ve never broken ground!” Clinton tweeted with the photo. “Great visit to State Department yesterday.”

    To that, Amanpour retweeted the photo with the comment, “Trying to unearth an ISIS strategy?”

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/cnns-amanpour-mocks-hillary-shovel-photo-trying-to-unearth-an-isis-strategy/

    Ouch...

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  68. You know what would be funny? Hearing you try to explain exactly how you would set up and implement a data mining system using NLP. I'll bet you don't understand half the words you hear everyday while hanging around with actual smart people.
    >>>>>>>

    What would be even funnier is hearing YOU try to explain it, ROTFL X2!!!!!!

    Not really my problem that while I spend my days with some of the smartest people in the world, you're around some of the dumbest.

    Bawhahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

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  69. Hey PR , !!!!

    Oops gotta go, it's almost showtime!!! :)

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  70. Anonymous12:03 PM

    Pēt Yīngyang said...

    Hey PR , !!!!

    Oops gotta go, it's almost showtime!!! :)
    ====

    Time to pretend you are thinkerating 'bout important stuff!

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  71. Lilacpr12:05 PM

    Anonymous said...
    You don't know anything at all about Ferguson, yet you repeat the worst kind of slander against the men and women of the Ferguson police force.
    Why?
    11:11 AM
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I know what I and the world saw on TV.

    I saw a mob of angry men in uniform pushing people around, calling them names on camera, even brazenly touching and pushing reporter and anchor Don Lemon, disrespectfully physically touching and pushing as if talking weren't sufficient. (that officer has since retired btw.
    Among other out of order things I'm sure you also saw.)

    I saw officers with no apparent code of conduct who gave the distinct impression that they are used to to doing whatever they please without following code of conduct regulations or even basic decent human civilized conduct, and without consequences for such.

    and they knew they were on TV! Imagine what they do when no one is watching. Need I say more?

    BTW this type of hostile, bullying behavior does create a strong feeling of resentment in their victims.



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  72. Field, check out the apology by the Economist

    http://www.economist.com/news/books-and-arts/21615482-how-slaves-built-american-capitalism-blood-cotton

    Interesting.

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  73. Anonymous1:56 PM

    Lilacpr said...
    "BTW this type of hostile, bullying behavior does create a strong feeling of resentment in their victims."
    ===

    Those poor "victims" sure do resent it when the police interfere with their robbing, looting, and burning.

    You want a country where negro criminality is becomes accepted and applauded as their birthright.

    Let's see how that works out.

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  74. Anonymous2:11 PM

    PilotX said...

    Field, check out the apology by the Economist
    -----

    Falsehoods don't need to be censored.

    A lie will fall on it's own.

    Inconvenient truths must be apologized for.

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  75. Lilacpr3:22 PM

    Anonymous said...
    You want a country where negro criminality is becomes accepted and applauded as their birthright.
    1:56 PM
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    No, I what I want is a country where everyone is treated with respect and dignity when they are just walking down a street doing ordinary everyday things, regardless of their color!

    That's what I want.

    The residents of Ferguson all indicated and told anecdotes of the abusive treatment they undergo every day at the hands of this police corp.

    But that's over now, they have to wear cameras. :)





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  76. Anonymous3:32 PM

    Lilacpr said...

    Anonymous said...
    You want a country where negro criminality is becomes accepted and applauded as their birthright.
    1:56 PM
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    No, I what I want is a country where everyone is treated with respect and dignity when they are just walking down a street doing ordinary everyday things, regardless of their color!
    ===

    Attacking a police officer and trying to take his gun is "doing ordinary everyday things"?

    That's not the kind of society I want to live in.

    Dignity is something inherent to yourself. No one can give it to you or take it from you.

    Respect is earned.

    The people rioting over this thug's death have no dignity and deserve no respect.

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  77. Lilacpr3:51 PM

    Anonymous Anonymous said...
    "Attacking a police officer and trying to take his gun is "doing ordinary everyday things"?

    "Dignity is something inherent to yourself. No one can give it to you or take it from you.
    "Respect is earned."
    3:32 PM
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The teen did not run after the patrol car. The patrol car stopped beside him and told him to "get the ****on the sidewalk!"

    Nice talk coming from an officer of the law huh?

    Would you like to e told in that manner also? I guess the answer is yes, since you think it's okay :)?

    Respect has to be earned you are correct.

    The police of Ferguson have not earned it! Nor do they behave with dignity!

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  78. Anonymous4:57 PM

    Lilacpr said...
    The patrol car stopped beside him and told him to "get the ****on the sidewalk!"
    ===

    This according to Dorian Johnson, a known liar who had been convicted of giving false information to police in the past, and who told an obviously false story about the 175 pound cop driving up on them, reaching out the window with one arm and grabbing the 300 pound Michael Brown by the neck, pulling him into the truck.

    Only a moron would tell or believe that story, and I don't believe you are a moron. You must just want to believe it so bad you ignore the impossibility of the described events.

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  79. Seems like Ferguson Police Just Cant stop Lying about anything regarding this case...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/05/ferguson-chief-lied-about-michael-brown-tape_n_5773420.html

    Chief Thomas Jackson said...

    All I did --what I did was -- was release the videotape to you, because I had to," Jackson told reporters on Aug. 15 when asked why he released the robbery footage. "I’d been sitting on it, but I -- TOO MANY people put in a [Freedom of Information Act] request for that thing, and I had to release that tape to you."


    However, a review of open records requests sent to the Ferguson Police Department found that no news organization, reporter or individual specifically sought the release of the surveillance tape before police distributed it on Aug. 15.

    I wonder why the cops friends are posting FAKE pictures of injuries.
    While his immediate supervisor is LYING about the requests for the robbery tape...

    http://theblot.com/exclusive-ferguson-police-chief-lied-about-michael-brown-surveillance-tape-7725621


    Well .. Everything comes to light eventually...


    Hopefully those donations to the officer turns into a commissary fund....or a settlement for the parents...

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  80. Anonymous7:28 PM

    BIB wrote,
    Hopefully those donations to the officer turns into a commissary fund....or a settlement for the parents...
    ---------------------------------------------

    It won't. That's just more Negro wishful thinking. Meanwhile the Chicago weekend shit show is on. With just two kills for the month of Sept. will the bangers get their shooting jones back?

    QLB

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  81. Trollonymous Burgundy7:58 PM

    Gee, all that bwahahaha-ing. Sounds like a guffaw to me. I thought they said only men guffawed.

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  82. I'll show those uppity Negro's who is Reaally Superior ...

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  83. Anonymous8:08 PM

    lilac cep wrote,
    he teen did not run after the patrol car. The patrol car stopped beside him and told him to "get the ****on the sidewalk!"

    Nice talk coming from an officer of the law huh?

    Would you like to e told in that manner also? I guess the answer is yes, since you think it's okay :)?

    Respect has to be earned you are correct.

    The police of Ferguson have not earned it! Nor do they behave with dignity!
    -----------------------------------------

    Most normal people think that walking in the middle of the street is stupid behavior. But somehow Blacks think it's OK. Yet they wonder about their IQ deficit.

    QLB

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  84. Lilacpr12:26 PM

    Anonymous said...
    This according to Dorian Johnson, a known liar who had been convicted of giving false information to police in the past,

    Only a moron would tell or believe that story, and I don't believe you are a moron. described events.
    4:57 PM
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I may just be a moron yet though! That has not been decided yet :)

    But, the thing is that most of the citizens of Ferguson related like stories!

    When you have such a preponderance of experiences, as well as so much resulting malaise, you have to conclude that there is something wrong that should be addressed.

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