I was listening to Van Jones and some other political pundits chop it up on CNN this morning, and Jones was lamenting the fact that the president is being too "lawyerly" in his assessment of the threat that Isis poses to the United States.
He needs to be more forceful as he addresses this issue, and he needs to say with no uncertainty what a serious threat Isis has become to our homeland. I am paraphrasing, but that was the gist of what he and the others panelists were saying.
Now here is the thing, and this will upset the fear mongers among us, but the truth is that Isis does NOT pose an existential threat to the United States. Russia poses an existential threat. North Korea poses an existential threat. China poses an existential threat. But Isis (sorry right-wingnuts) does not.
You would never know this of course given the climate of fear and consternation that has been gripping the country. The leading candidate for the GOP presidential nomination is calling on us to set up a data base to track Muslims, and he wants to round up their family members and kill them if they are related to terrorists. And, believe it or not, the leader of a large university is calling on his student body to arm themselves and shoot Muslims when they dare to step on his campus.
I wasn't around Germany in 1933, but I can imagine that this is what it felt like.
Benito Mussolini; Fumimaro Konoye; D. F. Malan; Adolf Hitler; Donald Trump. All these men have something in common. If you pay close attention to what is happening in America , I am sure that you can figure out what it is.
I don't think President Obama can be more forceful. He's doing the best he can. He is not a President we want during wartime. He just doesn't have the intellect nor the heart for it.
ReplyDeleteIt's time, it's been waaay time, for him to take a job as a Professor and disappear into the woodwork. We will be struggling with Obamacare, ISIS, Israel and Terrorism on our soil for years to come...
This country is a mess. There is no question in my mind that the next President will be a Republican...count on it.
We need a courageous President who has a deep faith and can bring back the great Creator and Spirit called God. Clearly, we cannot live without Him.
well said.
ReplyDeleteTheFieldNegro...
The F word.
Family, the first F word.
set up a data base to track Muslims
HAHAHA
You and I both are already in city, county, state and federal government databases.
TheFieldNegro said...
The leading candidate for the GOP presidential nomination is calling on us to set up a data base to track Muslims
And yet....
*Collects biodata: name, address, birthday, place of birth, etc
*Collects biometrics: iris scans
(for Syrians, and other refugee populations in the Middle East)
https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/11/20/infographic-screening-process-refugee-entry-united-states
Not all databases are equal to dumbocrats.
Obama needs to prove to Real (read: White Christian) Americans that he is not a Muslim and hates Muslims as much as the rest of us. By speaking the words "Islamic Terrorism" he can prove that he gets it, that any given Muslim either is a terrorist or looks like one, so let's presume that they all are terrorists, because it's more convenient that way, no skin off our potato. Unfortunately the 2 terrorists in San Bernardino, (not to mention the one in Colorado Springs and elsewhere but they look like us so no problem) did pose an existential threat to those of us who sadly lost their lives in those atrocities, so to the extent that any of us could be next, the fear mongers unfortunately are correct. And their solution? A leader with the conscience of a hard dick who will wipe Syria off the map, seal the borders, and throw all the Muslims into concentration camps.
ReplyDeleteI too can imagine that all this is reminiscent of Nazi Germany. What I don't know is how to convince people that the rights of an insignificant minority that they do not know or care about should be important to them. Perhaps if they want to see what is in store for them under right wing leadership they should go to Sarah Palin's house and look out the window.
Are you referring to the "Christian" university that wants to arm its students? That's very jesuslike of them. WWJD? Carry a gun to Econ 101 I guess.
ReplyDeleteWhen the number of ISIS inspired/supported terrorist attacks equals those committed by ANGRY WHITE MALES..................................
ReplyDeleteWhy are you qualifying a threat as having to be "existential" before being threatening? That's sorta stupid. WTF does "existential threat" mean anyway? Does it mean a threat to people's existence? ISIS doesn't pose this type of threat, but Russia, China and North Korea do? Are Russia, China and North Korea trying to kill us at the moment? (North Korea might be, but they haven't figured out the bottle rocket yet.)
ReplyDeleteMan, whatever kinship you folks think you share with Muslims because of their darker-than-white skin tones, let it go. They want to kill you too! When they're shooting up a place, do you think Yisheng is going to shout out, "ANGRY WHITE MALES have ruined earth, whatameoos are debils!" and they'll turn the gun on someone else? Stop tea-bagging terrorists to be PC.
And lol @ Godwin's Law's appearance in the close.
"When the number of ISIS inspired/supported terrorist attacks equals those committed by ANGRY WHITE MALES.................................."
ReplyDeleteThat may take a while.
Where are y'all finding all these "ANGRY WHITE MALES" who are committing terrorist attacks at a higher rate than ISIS? Honestly. Are y'all factoring in slave owners and the suchlike who have been dead 200 years? European witch-burning Christians who have been dead 500? One maniac in the Carolinas and the random mass shooters every year or so and a fucking nutter who lets one loose over abortion? Do Muslims only count as 1/100th a person to black folks? What's going on here with this math?
ReplyDeleteOh, wait. I get it. My bad. I forgot the standard here. According to black people, a white person on a college campus allegedly saying "nigger," with no backing evidence, is exactly equal to over a hundred dead in Paris. #FuckParis - we're suffering too!
Sorry. I always forget to re-calibrate the scales to include a James Bold post at Field's as the literal equivalent of cutting a little boy's head off because he watched a soccer game. Silly me. JOSH asking a question is 1:1 equivalency to a Islamic terrorist slaughtering everyone at the diner because reasons.
World Ends, Black People Most Affected...
"The leading candidate for the GOP presidential nomination is calling on us to set up a data base to track Muslims, and he wants to round up their family members and kill them if they are related to terrorists."
ReplyDeleteOn that last "kill the terrorists' families!" brainstorm that Trump had, you know you've gone way off the rails when a staffer from the ultra-violent Israeli government is warning you that you're too violent and need to calm down already.
Speaking of the "f word," many people have been making comparisons between jihadism and fascism. This has been going around a while now, probably ever since Christopher Hitchens coined the nonsensical term "Islamofascism." (Hitchens is an odd historical figure, a guy from the far Left who called Henry Kissinger a war criminal but then embraced militarism in his later years and was a huge cheerleader for the terrible idea of invading Iraq in 2003.)
This is annoying, because jihadism isn't fascism. There are some similarities, in that jihadism includes beliefs about in-group superiority over everyone else (Sunni Muslim supremacism) and embraces military conquest and brutal human rights violations as a tactic. But fascism is also an economic system, which has absolutely nothing to do with jihadism.
People are comparing ISIS to the Nazis, in that their ideology is as repellent as what the Nazis believed, even though, as I've said, it's really not the same belief system. What's important to remember is that the Nazis weren't merely evil, but also were in control of one of the most powerful industrialized nations in the world, while ISIS are not. The Nazis had an enormous killing machine at their disposal.
ISIS don't pose an existential threat to anyone, despite what certain politicians suggest, and our response to them has to be kept in proportion. Anyone who is suggesting we need to ramp up our response to meet a threat equivalent to that of WWII is a liar.
Meanwhile some of the reactions to ISIS and jihadism in the West really are quite close to fascism.
ReplyDeleteAs everyone is pointing out, Donald Trump has more than a little whiff of fascism about him: moderately right-wing economic policies, extreme militarism, promotion of "strength" as the only social value that matters, strident racism, and zero respect for human rights and civil liberties.
Meanwhile, fascist parties are racking up big gains in Europe, coming off of the global financial crisis and the foolish austerity policies passed in reaction to it, the rise of ISIS and war in Syria, and the huge influx of refugees into Europe.
In Hungary, you've got the ruling party, Fidesz, and the even more fascistic Jobbik, calling for lists of Jews and so forth. In Greece, you've got Golden Dawn, who are straight-up Nazis.
And then there's Front National in France, scoring some predictable wins, capitalizing on the Paris massacre:
Front National wins opening round in France's regional elections
Fortunately, the economic climate is nothing like what Germany faced in 1933, with war reparations and hyperinflation followed by a full-on economic depression. The desperation of those times certainly helped the fascists win power. But recent political developments are still worrying.
Benito Mussolini; Fumimaro Konoye; D. F. Malan; Adolf Hitler; Donald Trump. All these men have something in common. If you pay close attention to what is happening in America , I am sure that you can figure out what it is.
Sorry to nitpick, but I don't think all of these guys really qualify as fascists.
With regards to D. F. Malan, I'd say the South African apartheid regime certainly had the racism part of fascism down pat, but not so much the economic or militarism part.
And Fumimaro Konoye was the civilian prime minister of Japan leading up to and during WWII, but the fascist ideology came from the military side of the Japanese government (in fact, Konoye had studied Marxist economics in college). The leading fascist bad guy in Japan was General Hideki Tojo.
By the way, here is what I mean about people wrongly calling ISIS "fascist." This is British MP advocating for bombing Syria in a recent debate.
ReplyDeleteAnnoying.
You hold q minority view that Obama's speech was adequate. American citizens and journalists from all political ranks were less than impressed with Obama's weak offering of leadership. Again.
ReplyDeleteField,
ReplyDeleteYou're adding to fear mongering as well. US pose a treat to China due to the fact that the US had shift almost all of it naval actions to the South China Sea. US run invasion scenarios on North Korea. The US had military bases in over a 150 countries; China Zero! North Korea Zero! We might disagree with their policies but there very little there.
I agreed that ISIS pose very little threat but our western glance of the world is only so limited. The United states of Amnesia is a threat based on continuous actions around the world: From arming of holy warriors in Afghanistan toKabul point man Osama, invasions of both countries, arming Syria groups, training Chechen groups, Saddam in the 80s...
let's be a little more introspective and honest cause our national need to side with very bad folks globally has impact over time.
As a lawyer, do you support a law that would allow central government to claim the power to label anyone it wants a potential terrorist and, under the new proposal, possess a weapon, with no way for the citizen to appeal?
So if a citizen pisses off the central government, in addition to hitting them with an IRS audit, they could be put on the terrorist watch list and cant't fly or possess a weapon?
ReplyDeleteOr I guess the offending citizen could choose to bow to the prevailing political thought police to get off the list. 1933 indeed.
What if in the next administration removes a right by stroke of the pen that impacts your life without due process?
Blogger PilotX said...
ReplyDeleteAre you referring to the "Christian" university that wants to arm its students? That's very jesuslike of them. WWJD? Carry a gun to Econ 101 I guess.
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If you are not a Christian, then you know nothing about Jesus or what He taught...FUNDAMENTAL ATHEIST AND IGNORAMUS LIVES ON SOUTH SIDE CHIRAQ TALKS ABOUT JESUS IN THE NEGATIVE.
Obama actually has created a database of political opponents, second amendment defenders, and members veterans groups. He has jailed filmmakers and authors hostile to his regime and threatened to prosecute free speech. He has used federal agencies to stamp down rival political movements. His DHS cites American flag bumper stickers as a possible terrorist indicator. He has expanded NSA surveillance to every single person in America.
ReplyDeleteWe already have a fascist government, and it is you.
America suffers the worst terrorist attack since 9/11, and the President's response is to lecture the citizens on national TV that they better not have any negative feelings toward the people who are killing them.
ReplyDeleteObama repeatedly peddles euphemisms and false assurances. Reality refuses to conform to Obama's prescriptions. Obama is as impervious to experience as the worst men who ever lived. Obama does not trust the American people with the truth in part because he believes the American people cannot be trusted with the truth and in part because the truth is inimical to his projects.
Obama's antipathy to the United States and to the American people render him unfit for the high office he holds.
-- Scott Johnson
At this point in his presidency, Obama speaks with only one tone, the slightly exasperated and sometimes not-merely-slightly exasperated "adult in the room" who constantly has to correct his fellow Americans, who are always flying off the handle, calling for options that "aren't who we are", betraying our values, and so on. He's always so disappointed in us.
ReplyDelete-- Jim Geraghty
The West doesn't want to admit the appeal of evil, because that would require admitting that evil exists. And if evil exists, then that implies a duty to be good, which they would find onerous and tediously old-fashioned.
ReplyDelete-- Glenn Reynolds
Liberals coined the verb "radicalize" to take the onus off terrorists who shoot 31 people, killing 14 of them. It is the atheistic version of the old Flip Wilson line about "the devil made me do it" (a line that predates Flip Wilson, but I like Flip Wilson). I will grant you that the devil tempts people, but people have freewill and choose to follow the devil of their own volition.
ReplyDeleteThe Islamic State does not have a huge Death Ray that beams a ray across 10,000 miles to radicalize people in the West. People make choices. Global warming didn't do it. This was not a reaction to a You Tube video.
No, this assassin and his assassin wife chose to gun down people who wanted to share a Christmas celebration with them -- people who had thrown the couple a baby shower.
-- Don Surber
"If you are not a Christian, then you know nothing about Jesus or what He taught."
ReplyDeleteYep. Because all information about Jesus is kept under lock and key until which point one becomes a Christian. I mean, there is no possible way to read a Bible unless one is a Christian. It's like that book on Grimm that only a hexinbiest can use.
Oh, I forgot about JOSH, the one who calls Blacks "blahs" whom he claims doesn't know how to live life without violence, like Whites.
ReplyDeleteNow he thinks he knows a lot about Jesus and has a good grasp of the Bible. Yep, he is still the same negative thinking anti-god fundamentalist ignoramus as PX.
Ping TheFieldNegro...
How do you feel about the no fly list being applied to guns.
Does that interfere with the "innocent until proven guilty" concept of America?
Money is nice, but being able to speak my mind is better.
Please speak your mind on the legality of denying rights without due process.
Don Surber @ 11:41AM: Well said, and I agree wholeheartedly. It's too bad the atheists can't see it.
ReplyDeleteField, "Money is nice, but being able to speak my mind is better."
ReplyDeleteBill, "Please speak your mind on the legality of denying rights without due process."
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Well, the zeitgeist of the times dictates the legality of denying rights in order to protect the people from themselves. If you really sit down and think about it, life and man made laws have always been this way. It's nothing new.
Therefore, Mr Field is right and I am a White, who agrees with him.
Bill, are you by any chance from one of those very Red States? maybe Wisconsin or the Dakotas? Man, this is not only a Black or White issue, but it's also about being smart enough to see and operate in the "gray areas".
Mr Field knows how to operate in those areas. It takes a special skill that very few humans have. Obviously, you are not one of them...sorry about that.
Based on Field's willingness to truncate some peoples' rights because the powers that be deem those people as potential threats, I assume he strongly supports stop and frisk in minority neighborhoods.
ReplyDelete"How do you feel about the no fly list being applied to guns."
ReplyDeleteObama last night: "Freedom is more powerful than fear." Now let me take your guns away based on a secret list that only I control.
"Oh, I forgot about JOSH, the one who calls Blacks "blahs"..."
ReplyDeleteOh, I forgot about ANON, the moron whose grasp on the English language is so incredibly substandard that he thinks JOSH quoting someone saying "blah" is JOSH saying "blah." Oh, shit, there JOSH goes again, saying "blah" and not simply quoting someone else having said it.
"whom he claims doesn't know how to live life without violence..."
Never claimed this. Stop making shit up, you fucking retarded bastards. Wanna come at me with insults and the suchlike? Go for it. But if I'm such a bad person, such a racist, why the fuck do y'all have to invent shit that I never said?
Hi Josh.
ReplyDeleteJust wanted to relay some info to you about the real threat of homegrown terror.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html?_r=0
Yes, uptown, liberals consider Americans who aren't on board with their fascist agenda the true enemy.
ReplyDeleteIn 2009, the gun homicide rate for white Americans was 2 per 100,000.
ReplyDeleteIn 2009, black Americans faced a gun homicide rate of nearly 15 per 100,000.
Gun control advocates and politicians frequently cite the statistic that more than 30 Americans are murdered with guns every day. What’s rarely mentioned is that roughly 15 of the 30 are black men living in predominately black, urban areas!
And righties consider anyone who isn't white, male, conservative and needle dicked to be their enemy.
ReplyDeleteRepublicans respect people who support their families, pay their taxes, obey the law, and love their country, uptown.
ReplyDeleteDicks, race, and gender are the obsessions of the left.
"What’s rarely mentioned is that roughly 15 of the 30 are black men living in predominately black, urban areas!"
ReplyDeleteIt's always mentioned in rightwing media. If the same rates existed for white Americans, there'd be gun control reform tomorrow.
Dicks, race, and gender are the obsessions of the left.
ReplyDeleteSo how come so many corrupt, perverted DICKS like McDonnell, Vitter, Livingston, Rowland, Cunningham, Limbaugh and Libby are Republicans?
It could not be more obvious that America is under siege and that the federal government is aggressively on the enemy’s side. Last night Obama followed up Lynch’s threat by making a bid to use an enemy attack as a pretext to disarm us, rendering us more vulnerable to inevitable future attack.
ReplyDeleteField: You need to reconsider your post about the Dothan, Alabama police department. The story has turned out to be just another bit of SPLC propaganda. From Slate, no less:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2015/12/dothan_county_alabama_police_corruption_what_do_we_actually_know.html
uptown,
ReplyDeletedo you honestly think that the black murders in urban areas will be at all affected by gun control laws, background checks, or no fly list inclusion precluding gun ownership?
As to Some of the listed people above, yeah, the party has some real assholes who claim membership, but it is a free country. They are, so far, allowed to espouse their shit and I and other moderates are free to ignore their shit.
"do you honestly think that the black murders in urban areas will be at all affected by gun control laws, background checks, or no fly list inclusion precluding gun ownership?"
ReplyDeleteI think if there were national gun control legislation the easy access to guns would definitely be curtailed.
Why is the establishment media sacrificing what little remains of its credibility in a pathetic attempt to keep us from learning what we already know? Because the liberal establishment is on the side of Islam against Western Civilization, and therefore will cover for it at every opportunity, so as to prevent us from defending ourselves against it.
ReplyDeleteThe only way to make sense of their treasonous depravity is to remember that the ideology that drives our liberal ruling class is cultural Marxism. Its explicit purpose is to destroy American society so that a utopian oligarchical collectivist society can be constructed in its place. The strategy for achieving this malevolent objective is to create, import, and exacerbate alienated, perpetually aggrieved special interest groups and use them to attack the core population. This is why the government/media is hostile to whites, even though most of our rulers are white themselves; why they promote sexual perversion; why they are sympathetic to the cause of Black Lives Matter thugs; why they won’t close the border; and why even now liberals like Obama and collaborators like Marco Rubio still want to import more potential terrorists from the Middle East.
Their commitment to cultural Marxism makes every opinion, dislike, affinity, and short-term political goal of liberals clear — even seemingly incomprehensible affinities like their support for Islam.
Where do these friggin nuts come from?
ReplyDeleteIllegal guns aren't my problem. They don't impact me or my community. Instead of confiscating guns from law abiding citizens, the president needs to advocate for programs to address the real problem: black inner-city gun violence, illegal weapons, drugs.
ReplyDeleteQuote: Josh
ReplyDelete"According to black people..."
But Josh is not a racist.
Naaaaahhh, couldn't be.
uptownsteve said...
I think if there were national gun control legislation the easy access to guns would definitely be curtailed.
I'll call your bluff.
If all the city/state/federal drug laws were unable to keep drugs out of government high schools, please explain why you believe guns would be different.
To uptown@3:13 pm, they come from the FOX farm.
ReplyDeleteBill
ReplyDeleteYou can get drugs through a metal detector?
uptownsteve said...
You can get drugs through a metal detector?
Your suggestion is the government should set up metal detector checkpoints on the streets and sidewalks of America to stop guns?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That sure was some speech last night.
ReplyDeleteHe looked like he has bulemia or anorexia. Or worse. Charlie Sheen looks better than him.
But what he says is even worse.
What has been the extent of the Obama-Democrat-left response since Wednesday?
Let’s see:
1. GUNS!!!!
2. NRA are terrorists
3. The victims had it coming
4. It had nothing to do with Islam!
5. Prayer shaming
6. BACKLASH!!!!
7. Muslim men play footzball and bassatbawl
8. Something about “values”
9. Loretta Lynch has appointed herself the Shari’ah enforcer
The democrats are pathetic enough to get Trump elected.
Bill
ReplyDeleteDon't try to be slick. You don't have the gray matter.
You made an analogy between guns and drugs in schools specifically.
Support your local far right, civilization's last line of defense.
ReplyDeleteYeah right.
ReplyDeleteThe family that caps together, eats squirrel together.
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ReplyDeleteAnon@4:03,u support Trump and u are talking about how Obama looks?
ReplyDeleteThat's like a hooker calling an exotic dancer a slut.
U wingnuts sure seem scared. May I suggest that you get a dog? :)
And for the record, I agree: If u are on the no fly list u should not be allowed to purchase a firearm.
In fact. If u listen to country music,fly a confederate flag, or watch FOX VIEWS u also should not be allowed to own a firearm.
Field, "In fact. If u listen to country music,fly a confederate flag, or watch FOX VIEWS u also should not be allowed to own a firearm."
ReplyDeleteWell at least you admit you are a bigot, field. I've included the definition below, in case you didn't know the meaning of bigot.
"a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions."
I suspect you are a racist, too.
uptownsteve said...
You made an analogy between guns and drugs in schools specifically.
Not really, I can see why you want to deflect.
Why do you believe the government can do a better job of curtailing guns than they did drugs?
"In fact. If u listen to country music,fly a confederate flag, or watch FOX VIEWS u also should not be allowed to own a firearm."
ReplyDeleteThis is why you don't let progressives run your country.
Wait,I left off chewing tobacco. Definitely a firearm disqualifier.
ReplyDeleteWhy all over the place they're having classes, seminars and courses on 'How to deal with an active shooter situation'?
ReplyDeleteThat's all I see, in all the states. The slogan I believe is, 'Run,Hide,Fight'
Schools, churches, public buildings, businesses everywhere!
But we don't have any here on the island, I guess 'cos we won't be having any 'live shooter situations' here..I guess...I hope...???
Actually field, a Black skinned, 9-30 year old, inner-city dweller, male, child born out of wedlock, and having a prior arrest shouldn't have firearms, Field.
ReplyDeleteHayseed Ferd isn't a fun violence threat to anyone but the squirrels.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cirg/active-shooter-and-mass-casualty-incidents/run-hide-fight-video
ReplyDeleteThe FBI has made this survival video. I watched it. I liked especially the last part "commit to taking the shooter down"
For you guys out there! 'Cos I got nuttin to worry about here in paradise, hehehhee x*D
field negro said...
And for the record, I agree: If u are on the no fly list u should not be allowed to purchase a firearm.
What other rights should you lose without due process?
As someone that chases police abuse/racism as much as you do I expected a much different answer.
uptownsteve said... If the same [gun homicide] rates existed for white Americans, there'd be gun control reform tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteProbably. I don't disagree with this statement. White people on balance aren't the victims being killed or killing each other, however.
The problem is even Obama won't acknowledge the gun violence is centered in the predominately black cities and the drumbeat of homicides are overwhelmingly black, young men. I mean he discussed the murders of white kids at Columbine ad nauseam, but do you ever hear him discuss Chicago, New Orleans, or Minneapolis murders of young black men by black men almost every day?
Say, "Filled" Negro (as Constructive Feedback calls you), take a look at this and then answer a question for me.
ReplyDeletehttp://fox59.com/2015/12/07/police-indy-man-stabs-kills-6-year-old-boy-during/
Briefly, a Black man broke into a White home at night and stabbed a 6-yr-old to death.
Can you "Black Lives Matter" people show me even ONE incident like the one at this link, but with the races reversed? Where's the epidemic of White people bursting in on Black families and stabbing their kids to death? If it was happening I'm sure we'd have heard about it from BLM, but I just want to be sure.
Let's all "thank" Chump for the free ISIS recruitment videos he's recording on a daily basis these days.
ReplyDeleteYaaaaaaaah, hooooooooo!!!
Now twirl that confederate flag and do-see-do your dumb ass into a hot pit of 100M sulfuric acid!!!
W
Anon 5:30pm
ReplyDeleteObama has REPEATEDLY addressed inner city gun violence.
http://newsone.com/2235495/obamas-gun-control-chicago/
"According to black people..
ReplyDeleteBut Josh is not a racist."
PC must have those Scottie Pippen arms! Dude's scraping the very bottom of the barrel here these days. lol
So, if Josh says "black people," Josh is thus racist.
Sorry. Is "niggers" better? Nah, I'm not like Yisheng. "Moon crickets?" Ah, too niche. "Sambo?" Little too old. Tell me, PC, your preferred descriptive. I mean, if saying "black people" is fucking racism, then I'm undoubtedly one racist motherfucker. I say "black people" all the fucking time!
"African American" doesn't quite apply to you, does it? I mean, if it were CNN it would. Black people in France are African Americans.
How about "negroid," the race to which black people belong? Is that one gentle enough on your emotions? Oh, shit. Sounds too much like "negro," so that one's out.
Racism is a catch-22. No matter what you do, what you say, even if you say nothing at all, you're still a racist if you're a white person.
World Ends, Black People Most Affected.
My God, JOSH! Why do you come at Blacks like you do? Do you know you have a lot of support on FN? So why do you act a N-Word?
ReplyDeleteYou are so ungrateful and mean-spirited toward Blacks. So many Negroes on FN have stood up for you, defended you, including Field himself. And what do you do? You spit in their faces.
You make me ashamed to be White.
Yo Josh,
ReplyDeleteWhat if somebody said "according to white people"...blah blah blah.
You're the one who is always yapping about "collectivism" but is the first one to employ it when it suits your purposes.
Don't you realize, Josh? Anything you use to describe Africans-in-anywhere will collect negative connotations, and any negative word used to describe them is "racist". The label must be changed regularly like a diaper, and for the same reason.
ReplyDeleteYou're the one who is always yapping about "collectivism" but is the first one to employ it when it suits your purposes.
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You mean Josh is a hypocrite? No way, I thought Josh was perfect in every way.
Anything you use to describe Africans-in-anywhere will collect negative connotations, and any negative word used to describe them is "racist".
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Well not really, James you ARE a racist but too fucking dumb to realize this. It's understandable due to your lack of education and unemployed status. PWT's like you are normally dumb and racist.
Josh will never get hemorrhoids cause he's a perfect asshole.
ReplyDeleteSo how come so many corrupt, perverted DICKS like McDonnell, Vitter, Livingston, Rowland, Cunningham, Limbaugh and Libby are Republicans?
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Because Republicans are hypocrites?
Blogger uptownsteve55 said...
ReplyDeleteJosh will never get hemorrhoids cause he's a perfect asshole.
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ROFLMAO! I must remember that one....Thank you, UTS.
"What if somebody said "according to white people"."
ReplyDeleteLike all things, you mentally deficient buffoon, it would depend on context.
For instance, if there were white rednecks creating a #FuckCali hashtag over the terrorist attack there, and suggesting that they're being ignored because people are focusing on victims, and these people were white, and you said, "according to white people, #FuckCali" then it has context. (Do we need James Bold to explain this further?)
Are you an intelligent enough person to see how that works? Those "white people" to whom you're referring have a contextual basis. It's not as if you're just blurting out randomly, "according to white people."
The people who are implementing the #FuckParis hashtag and crying that white people saying "nigger" have committed literal terrorist attacks are black people. According to black people; not according to every single black person on the entire planet earth past, present and future.
Context, you dullards. This isn't rocket science.
"You make me ashamed to be White."
ReplyDeleteYou make me ashamed to be a human being. Treating people like adults with their own agency, holding stupidity to account for being stupid, and you're acting as if I need to treat people differently because they're black!
How is it that you emotional sophist bigots cannot see the pitifully low levels of esteem in which you personally hold black people? And why doesn't any black person here actually have a problem with a whiny bitch demanding that you all be treated like retarded children and not adults? Is it because you really do want preferential treatment and not to be treated equally? That's what it comes across like. Every time someone treats you like an adult, like another human being, here comes the sophists out of the woodwork crying that we need to treat blacks kinder and gentler because of their skin color. THAT racism seems to be fine and dandy with y'all; that racism seems to be the standard of living you expect.
I have never, a single time, treated anyone here any differently because of their skin tone. I treat y'all the exact same way I treat Christian creationists, ancient alien theorists, cryptozoologists, those race-is-a-social-construct Marxists, etc, etc. I demand evidence. I tell you if your shit stinks. I get cursed at and return it in kind. Yet every single day I leave a post here, it's people crying that I need to hold black people to different--to lower--standards than I hold everyone else. A black person says something I think is stupid, and suddenly I'm not allowed to treat them like a Christian creationist saying Noah's flood carved the Grand Canyon. Suddenly I have to be nice and respectful and let you be correct. Anything more than that is considered to be racism.
It's considered to be cruel and demeaning to treat black people like equal human beings.
Field, Steve, anon triplets, PX, PC, Yisgheng, Lance Cockson, et al -- y'all don't find that insulting? I've never seen any one of y'all utter a mumbling word about that. Seems y'all fucking love that shit: Treat me differently because of my blackness! Treat me nicer! Hold me to separate standards! But don't you dare fucking do it with anything negative, you racist!
Yeah, nothing bad will ever happen with all these mixed messages. And when it does, we all know the score. It'll be whitey's fault.
I will James, as soon as you explain this for me:
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Josh,
ReplyDelete"For instance, if there were white rednecks creating a #FuckCali hashtag over the terrorist attack there, and suggesting that they're being ignored because people are focusing on victims, and these people were white, and you said, "according to white people, #FuckCali" then it has context"
No it doesn't, you pathetic piece of Donald Trump afterbirth.
It is stereotyping. Conflating the stupidity of a distinct subset of racist jagoffs.
It's really pathetic how you incessantly try to rationalize your race hatred.
"It's really pathetic how you incessantly try to rationalize your race hatred."
ReplyDeleteSays the unapologetically extreme hateful racist uptownsteve.
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ReplyDelete"You make me ashamed to be White."
You make me ashamed to be a human being. Treating people like adults with their own agency, holding stupidity to account for being stupid, and you're acting as if I need to treat people differently because they're black!
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That's your problem right there. You keep claiming to be a human being when in fact, you are not. And you claim to be an 'adult' of which you have no conception of.
And yes, you do need to treat black people differently because you are an insult to them.
I repeat what I said before: You make me ashamed to be White.
For the record Josh I have never called you a racist. I don't think you are a racist. Overly judgmental for sure, but not a racist.
ReplyDeleteLance, fucking right I'm judgmental. lol Unlike a lot of people who pretend to be something other than an animal of evolution, I have long embraced my place in this life. There are things we do, things we have evolved to do very well. We all profile. We all judge. Those who pretend they don't are the worst type of hypocrites, IMO. Just look at Steve. This delusional motherfucker judges every white person he's ever met as a racist. I judge, and I am judged. It's not as if this is a one-way street.
ReplyDeleteEveryone else has their say. Even if I'm not around for two weeks, I can scroll back through old posts and find people screaming my name when I'm not even around. lol
Here am I, a complete fucking stranger that none of these people will ever meet, having zero net effect on their lives, and they're about to boil my damn bunny on the obsession tip. It's to the point now they don't even show up to see what Field says; they show up to see what I say, clinging on my every word like I'm their daddy.
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"No it doesn't, you pathetic piece of Donald Trump afterbirth.
It is stereotyping. Conflating the stupidity of a distinct subset of racist jagoffs.
It's really pathetic how you incessantly try to rationalize your race hatred."
More logical fallacies and further proof that you don't have the intellect to follow the concept of context.
Keep being you, Steve. I mean Carlos. I mean DarkStar. Whenever I need to be reminded what a stupid person looks like, you show up with bells on.
"Well not really, James you ARE a racist but too fucking dumb to realize this."
ReplyDeleteYou say that like it's a bad thing. Too dumb to realize it? Sir, I REVEL in it. "Nigger" was out of fashion before I was born, but I've seen you change your label from "negro" to "Afro-American" to "African-American" without changing the underlying reality. If this doesn't remind you of the re-labeling of "moron" to "mentally retarded" to "developmentally disabled" as each term became radioactive, it should.
"It's understandable due to your lack of education and unemployed status."
I am university-educated in a technical (not fuzzy) discipline, and I work at the things I want to work at; there happens to be a literary niche where I am uniquely qualified these days. I don't particularly need money and have no expensive vices or hobbies, so I can do more or less what I want. For this you envy me. Oh, if you want to dispute me on any of this feel free to put up any 6-figure sum as a bet and I'll be happy to meet it; my terms have been detailed here enough times I feel no need to repeat them.
"why doesn't any black person here actually have a problem with a whiny bitch demanding that you all be treated like retarded children and not adults?"
They do it because they can, and they can get concessions that way. That will work until someday it doesn't. That day there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth, to put it mildly.
"I will James, as soon as you explain this for me"
Was the infant Black? Had it been, I'm certain we would have been told. Further, the intent was not murder. Therefore it is irrelevant to the question: show me an equivalent White-on-Black crime.
If you want to talk Black-on-Black infant rapes there are plenty in Africa, and the only thing that stops the same from happening in America is AIDS treatment drugs (invented and supplied by Whitey) and the push against superstition (ditto).
Really, you should ask harder questions. Hitting these out of the park isn't the slightest challenge for an informed person... which you are not.
"you do need to treat black people differently because you are an insult to them."
I'm not sure which alert is appropriate here: Digital Whiteface or Disingenous White Liberal. This one has internalized and sacralized The Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations: one must praise the African for coming up to levels for which a European would be told "you loser, do better".
"You make me ashamed to be White."
I am proud to be White. Even if you win the Special Olympics, you're still a retard.
@Josh 12:14AM -
ReplyDeleteYeah we all judge but there is a difference between judging and being judgmental. Look, you are no doubt a bright guy who has your own way of looking at things and a very unique and provocative way of expressing them. And yeah there are those who seem to pay more attention to you than Field. I'm not one of those, I haven't directed any comments at you for weeks. Smoke a bone and chill out for chrissake before you bust a blood vessel in that computer brain of yours. And keep your bunny away from Daly!
Josh grunts,
ReplyDelete" Just look at Steve. This delusional motherfucker judges every white person he's ever met as a racist."
You idiot, you don't even have a clue about my white friends online, let alone in real life.
Just because I don't like you and your "Cast of Deliverance" buddies over at Goldberg.com doesn't mean that I'm anti-white.
LMMFAO!
ReplyDeleteDid you seriously just pull the "I have white friends" card?
Man, I can't even...
I haven't completely lost faith in your ability to think and process information just like a normal human being, but it's getting fucking close.
Josh believes all negroes are racist and no whites are, even his butt buddy James Bold who regularly fantasizes about shooting niggers. Josh is a piece of work. Dumb as hell but a piece of "work".
ReplyDelete"even his butt buddy James Bold who regularly fantasizes about shooting niggers."
ReplyDeleteOnly as regularly as the "Black coonmunity" excuses their spawn's murder of White people with things like "he was turnin' his life around" and "sending him away would ruin his fambly". My goal is to get you to stop, and if the coonmunity is terrified of the consequences that seems likely to do it. If you won't allow physical separation, you know what's on the table; after all, if John Allen Mohammed and Lee Boyd Malvo can do it, anyone can.