*Still, if you are a republican you have to be wondering about Mitt. Is he turning on us already? Why just yesterday Mitt was saying that he likes some parts of "Obamacare":
"Mitt Romney said on Sunday that if he were elected president he would keep portions of President Barack Obama's signature health care law, a seemingly abrupt turn on an early campaign promise.
"Well, I'm not getting rid of all of health care reform," the former Massachusetts governor said in an interview with NBC's "Meet the Press." "Of course there are a number of things that I like in health care reform that I'm going to put in place. One is to make sure that those with pre-existing conditions can get coverage. Two is to assure that the marketplace allows for individuals to have policies that cover their family up to whatever age they might like. I also want individuals to be able to buy insurance, health insurance, on their own as opposed to only being able to get it on a tax advantage basis through their company." [Source]
My goodness, he was against Obamacare before he was for it.(???????)
Finally, it's time to attack black.
You all know how much I despise politricksters who betray the public trust. Especially black ones. They are particularly contemptible, because they were put in office by people who are for the most part powerless, and who trusted them to do the right thing on behalf of the community that they serve.
We can now add Trenton, New Jersey Mayor, Tony Mack, to the list of black politricksters who did their people wrong by looking out for themselves, first. Mack allegedly sold his office and was perp walked by the feds this morning in yet another embarrassing chapter in the story of local black elected politricksters in America. (I see you Kwame)"Trenton, N.J., Mayor Tony Mack -- a.k.a. "Napoleon," "the Little Guy" and "Honey Fitz" -- was arrested and charged with corruption Monday following a two-year federal probe into kickbacks allegedly taken by city officials in connection with a development project.
A 31-page complaint also accuses two other men -- the mayor's brother,
Ralphiel Mack, and Joseph A. Giorgianni (a.k.a. "the Fat Man," among other
monikers) -- of demanding $119,000 in payments from a man they thought was vying
to build a parking garage in Trenton, the state capital.
In reality, the man was working with federal agents in a sting operation that
had begun in September 2010. That's when the man met with Giorgianni in
Giorgianni's eatery, JoJo's Steakhouse, under the guise of representing a
developer willing to pay bribes for the right to build a parking garage on city
property...
Now before one of you Negroes give me the "field, they all do it" speech, please understand that I don't really care. This is not about them. This is about our community needing those of us who get to a position of power and influence doing the right thing and not letting power corrupt them.
* Pic from Politic365
Field, "You all know how much I despise politricksters who betray the public trust. Especially black ones. They are particularly contemptible, because they were put in office by people who are for the most part powerless, and who trusted them to do the right thing on behalf of the community that they serve."
ReplyDeleteWhat about Obama? Do you despise him too?
Also, you must know you have done a "no-no" as far as Granny and Mack Lyons and PilotX are concerned. You should not be talking about the wrongs of Blacks under NO circumstances-as far as they are concerned. So don't expect any support from them. However, when you get back to trashing the Whites those three FN Negroes will be right there with you.
Well, you and I both know it's the "unlikely voter" and the independent voters (most of them moderates) that will sway this particular vote. Polls seem to poll "likely" voters, but the unlikely ones happen to be ... people like us.
ReplyDeleteIn any case, I think Mitt Romney is a lot more centrist than he lets off. Dude only got this little edge of his for the election. He'll outdebate himself in no time.
What the MSM media won't tell you is the guy hugging picking up Obama visited the White the Week before. It was all scripted, otherwise you think Secret Service might have moved, they didn't even blink, they knew it was going to happen. Even the stupidest things are trickery, lies and deceit
ReplyDelete"What about Obama? Do you despise him too?"
ReplyDeleteAnon., please provide a link to the case where Barack Obama was charged with corruption.
Take all the time you need. I will wait........
field negro said...
ReplyDelete"What about Obama? Do you despise him too?"
Anon., please provide a link to the case where Barack Obama was charged with corruption.
Take all the time you need. I will wait........
Blagovitch is writing the book and Jesse Jackson Jr is in hiding....
Obama just hasn't been charged yet.
"Anon., please provide a link to the case where Barack Obama was charged with corruption."
ReplyDeleteNo need to wait, field:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/rezkotimeline.php
http://www.humanevents.com/2011/11/22/obama-pal-tony-rezko-gets-10-and-a-half-years-for-corruption/
http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/01/bankrupt-solar-company-with-fed-backing-has-cozy-ties-to-obama-admin/\\
http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/08/solyndra-officials-made-numerous-trips-to-the-white-house-logs-show/
http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2012/02/24/back-to-the-source-obama-rewards-campaign-contributors/
http://napavalleyregister.com/news/opinion/mailbag/media-ignore-corruption-of-obama-administration/article_7823591c-579b-11e1-afa0-001871e3ce6c.html
"What about Obama? Do you despise him too?"
ReplyDeleteAnon., please provide a link to the case where Barack Obama was charged with corruption.
Take all the time you need. I will wait........
9:34 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
You avoid the truth about Obama. In your opening sentence of this post you claim Blacks are ALL excited about the O man being re-elected.
The fact of the matter, Mr. Field, it is YOU who is excited even thought this President shitted ALL OVER us. And now you have the nerve to post about Blacks doing wrong when YOU are voting for a President who not only broke his promises, but has totally left Blacks with the highest unemployment in the history of America. He has clearly and shamelessly IGNORED the entire black race during his tenure in office.
And you are excited about voting for him again, so that he can shit on us again? Negro, GTFOH!
If his winning depended on my black vote he would be toast. As far as I am concerned, Romney is a much better prospect. I know. Because I am from MA. Brothers and Sisters in Mass. have nothing against him because he did right by us. You just trying to paint him somebody that he is not.
But one thing people know about Romney, the man is rich and doesn't give a damn what either party says, and he won't be bullied by either. He's going to do his thing and that means EVERYONE will benefit. Take a look at his record as Gov, if you dare!
That's a record I have noticed that you Leftists have remained silent about. Why? Because he tends to lean left.
You might as well vote for Romney. At least he will get things done because he is courageous and will remove the GOP's stone wall. Obama will be another repeat of his first four years.
AND THAT IS NOT GOOD FOR BLACKS!
anon@10:11pm, I can understand where you are coming from.
ReplyDeleteActually, you make me wonder how many other brothers and sisters are out there who also are angry for how Obama has insulted them?
This election is full of potential surprises. So much that I doubt no one can predict how it's going to turn out. And that includes the black vote.
Obama hates whites, but he respects them.
ReplyDeleteObama merely despises blacks.
Once again wingnuts; please provide a link where Barack Obama was C-H-A-R-G-E-D with corruption by ANY law enforcement agency here in America.
ReplyDeleteI will wait.....
Blogger field negro said...
ReplyDeleteOnce again wingnuts; please provide a link where Barack Obama was C-H-A-R-G-E-D with corruption by ANY law enforcement agency here in America.
Oh you mean it doesn't count unless he ultimately gets "charged for it" unlike your Mitt Romney rumors and in-U-end o's. Maybe he just fast and furiously will invoke executive privilege.
When he loses and Romney gets the books, there will be a helluva lot of confirmations.
"What about Obama? Do you despise him too?"
ReplyDeleteAnon., please provide a link to the case where Barack Obama was charged with corruption.
Take all the time you need. I will wait........
9:34 PM
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Field, you don't have to wait anymore:
There is no 'legal' charge at this time of corruption by Obama. But for your information, there is more to human life than legal corruption.
There is a corruption of character:
Obama is a liar and is untrustworthy; and does not deserve to be President, let alone a second term.
It would be foolish to vote him in again 'hoping' for 'change' from a compulsive liar.
I hope, Mr Field, I have made myself clear. No, I am not a white troll. I am a black one, believe it or not. I will never forget how Obama has treated us while in office. From his behavior toward us, he might as well had said to us, "Go to hell".
So, Mr. Field, you might be excited about his chances for a second term but I am not. I wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher. You see, you only have to f**k me once, not twice. Obviously, ONCE is not enough for you.
The money has always been a lure for the wingnuts and grifters. Joe Walsh, Sarey Palin, Ryan, Quayles, nearly all the TeaBaggers.
ReplyDeleteConsidering what the losers did after the end of the Civil War, it should be no surprise that they will do whatever they can to prevent AfAm Presidents.
Ummm...one might not wish to pretend-cite known liars as "proof" of your own personal racial animus. It really only shows that you are willing to lie.
Mold
Considering what the losers did after the end of the Civil War, it should be no surprise that they will do whatever they can to prevent AfAm Presidents.
ReplyDeleteUmmm...one might not wish to pretend-cite known liars as "proof" of your own personal racial animus. It really only shows that you are willing to lie.
Yeah those democrats have been pretty nasty throughout history.
Whats worse a guy with a border line IQ playing a retard or a borderline retard playing a guy who has a border line IQ? Which one Stevey?
The United States just dropped to seventh place on the World Economic Forum’s newly released Global Competitiveness Index.
ReplyDeleteiStock Analyst reported:
The U.S. dropped to No. 7 on the World Economic Forum’s newly released 2012 Global Competitiveness Index report. Switzerland retained its top position as the most competitive nation, followed by Singapore, Finland, Sweden, the Netherlands and Germany.
Asian countries continue to be among the most competitive—and many are gaining strength. Among the top 20, five are from Asia. Compared to last year’s ranking, Singapore retains its No. 2 spot, Hong Kong gained two positions, Taiwan remains No. 13, Korea advanced five spots and Japan dropped one position.
One year ago this week the US was downgraded for the first time by Standard and Poors.
The Obama deficit just topped a trillion dollars for the fourth year in a row with a month left in the fiscal year.
But....Romney said he would keep some aspects of healthcare reform.
Jig for your democrat masters Field, jig!
"A white man voting democrat is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders"
ReplyDeleteJig for your democrat masters Field, jig!
ReplyDelete11:46 PM
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Yep, he is a jigger for the Democrats. Not once has he answered about the lies Obama told. He just simply jigs as if Obama has been good to us. TNB
Beneath all the diversity there was one commonality at the DNC: the atheists, blacks, Hispanics, “good” white liberals, homosexuals, Amerindians, and other NAMs in attendance – despite their ultimately divergent political interests—were totally united in their belief that the historic majority population of the United States must be deposed and that the culture this hated majority created must be subverted at all costs.
ReplyDeleteIt was a surreal sight to see white liberals, Blacks, Hispanics, and other NAMs swoon over such illustrious individuals as Jesse Jackson, Rep. John Lewis, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews (as he waddled through the concourse to the media suites), all making a living by promoting an agenda that must frankly be described as anti-white.
Everybody thinks of the Republicans as the White Party, but they desperately featured token minorities in their convention lineup to try to expand thier appeal. It will never work because the demographics they are pitching hate whites, and have everything to gain in a system where minority status is an advantage.
The Republican's only hope would be to explicitly champion white interests. Call for an end to affirmative action, seal the border, gut the welfare state. But they can't, as they have completely bought into the liberal precepts that "diversity" is an unassailable good and that white people as a group can have no legitimate interests.
On November 7 it will be recognized by the Dems that these despicable whites that they piss on, pick the pockets of, and make slave labor, are still a very large voting bloc.
ReplyDeleteThe latest CNN poll shows Obama ahead of Mitt Romney 52 to 47. But the poll drastically oversampled Democrats to get this stunning result. If a more accurate number of Republicans and Independents were included the poll would show Mitt Romney leading 53 percent to 45 percent for Obama.
ReplyDeleteThe Examiner reported:
The latest CNN/ORC poll released today shows a wider lead for President Obama than the previous CNN/ORC poll but it is doubly skewed. It massively under-samples independents while it also over-samples Democratic voters. The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll official reports Obama at 52 to percent and Mitt Romney at 46 percent. Unskewed, the data reveals a 53 percent to 45 percent lead for Romney.
This new CNN/ORC survey, unlike many other analyzed, not only over-samples Democratic voters, but also massively under-samples independent voters, to produce a result more favorable to Barack Obama. This survey’s sample includes 397 registered Republicans and 441 registered Democrats. But the survey included a total of 822 registered voters, leaving only 37 independent voters at most. The survey clearly under-sampled independent and Republican voters.
Boy, is Barack gonna be suprised!
One is to make sure that those with pre-existing conditions can get coverage.
ReplyDeleteThe insurance companies will now love either candidate -- because now they both support the increase in insurance rates to cover the added burden of a kid who remains on his parents insurance through the worst of his drunk-driving years.
Two is to assure that the marketplace allows for individuals to have policies that cover their family up to whatever age they might like.
Again -- more good news for insurance companies. Higher rates are on the way.
I also want individuals to be able to buy insurance, health insurance, on their own as opposed to only being able to get it on a tax advantage basis through their company.
More music to insurance compnay ears.
No, they don't all do it. Savvy, intelligent politicians know how to enrich themselves legally. Takes more effort & more time. The best of them may do some good, too. Tony Mack is punk stuff, old old school mob style gimme. The Feds take these fools down every week. Most of them aren't high profile fools.
ReplyDeleteJust another case of democratic voter fraud.
ReplyDeleteWe need to set up a years stay with someone the democrats love that is aligned with their party as punishment,
1) A year with the Taliban
2) Satanists
3) Occupy Wall Street
4) In a black community
Wendy Rosen, a Democrat running for election in Maryland’s first Congressional District, dropped out of the race Monday after being confronted with allegations that she had committed voter fraud.
Party officials urged Rosen to step aside after it was alleged that she voted in elections in both Maryland and Florida in 2006 and 2008.
judging from most of the comments here, it's a shoe-in for Romney. you see, dems just don't have the endurance to defend themselves against the right.
ReplyDeletehell, i bet they don't even go vote on election day, esp the black ones. and the white couch potatoes...Field, you know it's true.
I am sad that Rosen stepped aside on false voter fraud allegations. Everyone knows the only crooks in this area are Republicans. Voter fraud is not the style of Democrats. In fact, I doubt if Dems know how to do such a crooked deal.
ReplyDeleteMy goodness, he was against Obamacare before he was for it.(???????)
ReplyDeleteUmmmmm......Michelle - you are the field Negro right mooch? C'mon fess up, I aint seen a case of love like this since mr leg tingles said clinton would be bangin martians.
Ummm....he said he would reform and replace.....get it? Now leave my schools alone, you turned our schools into a waste ridden fiasco where kids don't even eat the slop they serve, only parents aren't allowed to pack lunch because the black kids get embarrassed mommie aint up that early and aint givin them no lunch -tats what gub'ment is for. If kids get free, breakfast lunch and dinnner now at schools shouldn't we be cutting off those on food-stamps for their kids? Who they feedin if the kids eat at school for free?
Field, "Now before one of you Negroes give me the "field, they all do it" speech, please understand that I don't really care. This is not about them. This is about our community needing those of us who get to a position of power and influence doing the right thing and not letting power corrupt them."
ReplyDeleteEr Field. What about Obama? Since when did he care about our community? There have been more killings, more unemployment, and more poverty since Obama has been in a position of power. But you never say anything about that. Is Obama "too big to fail" and so you pick on the little Negroes?
Brother Field...100% with you on putting these minority politicians that fall for such stupid set-upson blast. They don't read...history is full of past and current polis that have stoled, cheated or lied. AAs politicians usally have not crews whereby they can play big politics. For this I am thankful. There is no excuse for these guys/gals to be dishonest. It is so sad that such immoral people climb the ladder then dishonor us by being stupid. My number one lesson when my kids were under daily tutelege was..."Black people are too dumb to be criminals". How do you enter into an enterprise with peole that you don't know...as evidenced by him getting popped?
ReplyDeleteFYI: Kwame was framed. He is innocent. BTW, isn't Kwame from Jamaica? SERIOUSLY.
ReplyDeleteA Black Panther Forever, ""Black people are too dumb to be criminals". How do you enter into an enterprise with peole that you don't know...as evidenced by him getting popped?"
ReplyDeleteYou have a very point: Blacks are too stupid to be criminals. As far back as I can remember, black crooks have always been caught. Not ONE has gotten away!
Every race that has come to America has gone deep into the criminal element and been very successful. Blacks are the only ones who haven't. I wonder if not being able to scientists and not being able to be crooks are related in terms of IQ?
Hell, even Obama is not successful. He ranks as our poorest President of all time. I personally think there is an inhibiting gene in our brain that affects our thinking.
Even the Panthers couldn't make it. They were to easy to set up............Remember that?
"I hope, Mr Field, I have made myself clear. No, I am not a white troll. I am a black one, believe it or not. I will never forget how Obama has treated us while in office. From his behavior toward us, he might as well had said to us, "Go to hell"."
ReplyDelete"US"? I don't think so. You are a republican plant who I hope is being paid to troll the internet by Flipper and Co.
If not, you are as stupid as the other unhinged trolls who post here all day. ;)
"FYI: Kwame was framed. He is innocent. BTW, isn't Kwame from Jamaica? SERIOUSLY."
"A mind is a terrible thing to waste"
"Wendy Rosen, a Democrat running for election in Maryland’s first Congressional District, dropped out of the race Monday after being confronted with allegations that she had committed voter fraud.
Party officials urged Rosen to step aside after it was alleged that she voted in elections in both Maryland and Florida in 2006 and 2008."
*Yawn*
Party officials urged Rosen to step aside after it was alleged that she voted in elections in both Maryland and Florida in 2006 and 2008."
ReplyDelete*Yawn*
But of course, a Moonbat says yawn to illegal activity and vote stealing. Shows you what you stand for. After all whats voting in two states compared to massively taxpayer funded democratic social groups like Acorn derivatives, they mail out thousands of fraudulent absentee ballots in a week.
Is Obama going to go March with the Chicago teachers? It's sad they only make about 74k a year before benefits(twice what the average parent with a student makes) and they are fighting to make sure teacher evaluations aren't made public.
ReplyDeleteWell I saw the strikers and heard them speak and saw signs they couldn't spell correctly. Of course they don't want their evaluations for providing a public service teaching at a public schools paid for by public funds to be public, after all only 20% of all students in 8th grade in Chicago can actually read proficiently.
This is what you want everywhere? Do you sacrifice kids and the future for this?
Idiocracy.
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ReplyDeletefield booty, GrannyStandingforTruth has forsaken you for:
http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/
No loyalty at all.
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Obama really wants to be re-elected hes wearing a flag pin that he doesnt like, put his hand over his heart for taps and Michelle didnt say all this for a flag at todays 9/11 moment of silence.
ReplyDeleteFake
Does this guys deserve to keep his job?:
ReplyDeleteDuring his first 1,225 days in office, Obama attended his PDB just 536 times — or 43.8 percent of the time. During 2011 and the first half of 2012, his attendance became even less frequent — falling to just over 38 percent.
In July, a GAI analysis of President Obama’s calendar found that the president has spent just 412 hours in economic meetings of any kind throughout his presidency versus the over 600 hours he’s spent golfing.
Field....
ReplyDeletePassing NDAA was criminal enough. Does there really have to be some kind of formal indictment for you to acknowledge the criminality of it??
Libya stunk to High Heaven too..Im sure there were a few Int'l laws broken during that fiasco...
Nobel Peace Prize should be given back....
"Libya stunk to High Heaven too..Im sure there were a few Int'l laws broken during that fiasco..."
ReplyDeletehttp://youtu.be/Fgcd1ghag5Y
The 1964 Civil Rights Act did two things: it delegitimized the white majority so that it could no longer lead, and it turned black America into a sacred victim whose demands for group privilege could not in good conscience be opposed.
ReplyDeleteIt did yet another thing. When senators expressed concerns that the Bill could lead to racial quotas, those concerns were real; that’s why Humphrey made his forceful assurance that the bill contained no such language. But Humphrey’s assurance implied that a demand for racial group preferences would indeed arise as a result of this bill and that therefore the bill had to have rock-solid language to stop that. Humphrey’s promise was an admission that the bill would produce a demand for preferences that would have to be withstood. Therefore someone would have to protect the law against those who wanted to bend it into a different shape. But who would that protector be? It couldn’t be the black community; that was assumed. It couldn’t be the civil rights advocates; that was assumed. The enforcers would have to be whites who were not part of the civil rights movement. But, once again, the white majority had been discredited and disempowered by its admission of historic racial guilt.
So, though the language of the bill forbad preferences, the bill nevertheless produced on one side a self-interested and aggrieved class that was expected to demand preferences, while it eliminated on the other side the very class that was being tacitly depended on to resist the granting of such group preferences and to enforce the bill as written
Those are the group-power dynamics that underlay the devolution of civil rights from the prohibition of discrimination to the bestowal of group privileges. Yet the civil-rights conservatives, believing only in individual rights and in the irrelevance of race, keep treating the issue as a matter of abstract principle. Over all these years leading up to the catastrophe of Grutter v. Bollinger, they seemed to believe that if they just kept invoking the principle, the principle, as though it were some independent entity, would revive itself and become once again the law of the land. The reality—which modern conservatives are incapable of understanding because they live in a world of abstractions—is that in order for a society to maintain its principles, it has to have actual people who are ready, willing, and able to enforce those principles. An America whose historic white majority has been shorn of its moral legitimacy lacks such people.
I wonder if Obama is having Rev. Wright over to the White House for some 9/11 fried chicken?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous America's Chickens Have Come Home to Roost! said...
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Obama is having Rev. Wright over to the White House for some 9/11 fried chicken?
He did a radio interview today on 9/11 but didn't mention 9/11. The radio interview was with "pimp with a limp" and they discussed Jay Z, the Dolphins and Medicare.
How presidential on the day when the Islamic Muslim brotherhood that he backs stormed the US embassy and raised an AL Qaeda flag, he rejected a meeting with Netanyahu (guess we know why they removed Jerusalem from the democratic plank) and condemned anyone who "offends" Islam.
It's all coming together you bunch of sheeple.
NEW YORK TIMES goes after Bush on 11th anniversary of attacks...
ReplyDeleteNBC's 'TODAY' Show Skips Moment Of Silence For Kardashian Interview...
Is anybody else wondering what these wingnuts are talking about?
ReplyDeleteI love the disingenuous conservatrolls and stepandfetchit negroes that talk about Barack ignoring the blah community. They know damn well if he did show ANY attention to us they would be all over him for being a racist. I say jold on and give him a second term and I bet he will be able to make more of an effort to give attention to communities of color.
ReplyDelete"and they are fighting to make sure teacher evaluations aren't made public."
ReplyDeleteFalse, they are fighting to make evaluations fair and transparent. CPS teachers are now evaluated by students, their principal and by test scores. Any objective oberver can see the problem with the current system.
"It's sad they only make about 74k a year before benefits(twice what the average parent with a student makes)"
77K is the top rate for teachers with over 20 years of service. Most start at 44K so pretty disinginuous to use the top rate as the standard.
Bet someone who never taught posted this B.S. Most conservatrolls live off the taxpayers so they have no clue what it takes to actually work and earn a livable salary and are envious of those that do. These are the same fools who remain silent when CEO's, like Rawmoney, get rich by outsourcing and firing people but have a hissy fit when hard working folks make 77K. Sad.
field negro said...
ReplyDeleteIs anybody else wondering what these wingnuts are talking about?
Stop watching MSNBC with the Obama Filter and you will find out whats really happening in the world.
Must suck to be behind the 8-ball and living in a fantasy world.
Field disrespectfully said, "US"? I don't think so. You are a republican plant who I hope is being paid to troll the internet by Flipper and Co.
ReplyDeleteIf not, you are as stupid as the other unhinged trolls who post here all day. ;)"
My, my. Your paranoid imagination and FN self-importance runs wild. No, I am not a paid republican 'plant'. What makes you think anyone would pay anyone to be on your blog when anyone can do it for free?
So, according to your emotional intellect that makes me stupid. From where I am standing, any Negro who votes for Obama is voting for more black unemployment, insults and for more mistreatment as if we don't exist.
Now that is beyond stupidity. It puts you in the category of a moronic imbecile. I don't ever want to see Obama again as President. He has the attitude of a black Republican catering to only Whites.
"It's sad they only make about 74k a year before benefits(twice what the average parent with a student makes)"
ReplyDeleteOMG!!!!!!!! A working person makes a livable wage and they're not even a CEO with millionaire parents! Shame on them for making a decent wage and have benefits too! They should be stripped of their benefits and their salary lessened because we all know we should borroww money from our rich parents and start a business. How dare they teach kids and try to make a difference in their communties! We all know only "job creators" should make more than 30K per year. Damned socialists!
PilotX said...
ReplyDelete"and they are fighting to make sure teacher evaluations aren't made public."
False, they are fighting to make evaluations fair and transparent. CPS teachers are now evaluated by students, their principal and by test scores. Any objective oberver can see the problem with the current system.
Yes, over 60% of students in 8th grade are functionally illiterate and have 2nd grade math levels, being taught by teachers who are quasi literate themselves. Every job has responsibilities and accountability and a boss. No one should EVER be exempt from the results of their performance. If the teachers want to blame parents and culture for low performance, well I guess they should figure out that they are parents and it is their culture as well. Who is blaming whom?
"It's sad they only make about 74k a year before benefits(twice what the average parent with a student makes)"
77K is the top rate for teachers with over 20 years of service. Most start at 44K so pretty disinginuous to use the top rate as the standard.
It's disingenuous and no, 77k is the Average pay for Chicago teachers. If you are saying they are all long term fully tenured and at max pay (not true) but if you are than this is even more horrifying seeing the results of students learning in Chicago. If the teachers are the best and most experienced, why are the students illiterate in math and science? is there some other factor we should look at?
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/chicago-public-school-teachers-highlight-perennial-debate-teacher/story?id=17202417#.UE-qgK5ri0c
Bet someone who never taught posted this B.S. Most conservatrolls live off the taxpayers so they have no clue what it takes to actually work and earn a livable salary and are envious of those that do. These are the same fools who remain silent when CEO's, like Rawmoney, get rich by outsourcing and firing people but have a hissy fit when hard working folks make 77K. Sad.
Are you an infant? Do you have an IQ over 60? These are public taxpayer funded paid positions, paid for by taxpayers, funded by taxpayers. What in the hell sense of a warped mind that you have does your jealousy of someone making it in the private sector have to do with public employees holding taxpayers hostage for performance that all of them would be terminated for, yet demanding more money than the people who pay them and they work for make?
I am sure you are a product of public schools.
"I don't ever want to see Obama again as President. He has the attitude of a black Republican catering to only Whites."
ReplyDeleteBecause we know house negroes like yourself would never accuse him of racism if he showed ANY attention to us.
I agree Field, this is a white person pretending to be blah or they're as dumb as a rock. No wonder its voting for rawmoney. The gop loves their stupid.
PilotX said...
ReplyDelete"It's sad they only make about 74k a year before benefits(twice what the average parent with a student makes)"
OMG!!!!!!!! A working person makes a livable wage and they're not even a CEO with millionaire parents! Shame on them for making a decent wage and have benefits too! They should be stripped of their benefits and their salary lessened because we all know we should borroww money from our rich parents and start a business. How dare they teach kids and try to make a difference in their communties! We all know only "job creators" should make more than 30K per year. Damned socialists!
You have become idiotic with your jealousy and hatred. The people who pay their salary make half as much. That is not sustainable and the performance of a lot of these teachers is horrific.
"I am sure you are a product of public schools."
ReplyDeleteYes I am. And unlike you who dropped out of the 4th grade I actually graduated from college and make more money than you. I appreciate my teachers and fight for hardworking folks unlike you who collects wefare and fight for millionaires. Maybe you should have stayed oin a public school, would have done you some good.
ReplyDelete"You have become idiotic with your jealousy and hatred. The people who pay their salary make half as much."
Let's see, the person who makes a big deal about teachers making 77K after 20 years on the job accuses ME of jealousy. Anyone else with half a grain of sense see the irony in this statement? Boy your trolls are dumb. No wonder they hate teachers so much. Ha!
"You have become idiotic with your jealousy and hatred. The people who pay their salary make half as much."
ReplyDeleteSo by that logic the president, congress, mayors and any public employee should take a pay cut because they make more money than me. Common sense is not very common. Jealosy much troll? Again, no mention of CEO's who make 30 times the salary of their employees that do the actual work at a company. Pile on teachers but leave CEO's alone. Sick.
PilotX said...
ReplyDelete"You have become idiotic with your jealousy and hatred. The people who pay their salary make half as much."
Let's see, the person who makes a big deal about teachers making 77K after 20 years on the job accuses ME of jealousy. Anyone else with half a grain of sense see the irony in this statement? Boy your trolls are dumb. No wonder they hate teachers so much. Ha!
Lets see, first you say 77 is only the top salary, now you say 77 is all they make after 20 years on the job even though they start at 44K. Additionally now you are saying all of chicago's teachers have been on the job for 20 years and 77k is not the average.
So which is it numbnuts are you arguing facts or your union socialistic emotions?
The private sector that you dont' like is also the one who PAYS the teachers through fees, fines and taxes. So your example is ridiculous. Most importantly why are kids so horribly deficient if we have such good teachers? Why, is there something common about the teachers, what they are being taught, the students? What could it be?
As for your usual disconnected liberal idiotic straw arguments. No one ever said they hate teachers we love them, (all except the ones you had for obviously either you or they failed to teach you critical thinking)
The point of discussion is salary, not love for teachers, not worshipping your ideals, rather what are we getting for the huge amounts of money and how is this impacting our debt and the education of students overall. I would say we spend a fortune and aren't getting much back at all.
"The point of discussion is salary, not love for teachers, not worshipping your ideals, rather what are we getting for the huge amounts of money and how is this impacting our debt and the education of students overall. I would say we spend a fortune and aren't getting much back at all."
ReplyDeleteSo to solve our debt problem is to reduce the salaries of teachers? Great plan. The plan to create better schools is to lower the salary of teachers? God, republicans have such great plans don't they. Let's not let Bush tax cuts expire let's cut salaries of teachers. Let's not cut defense spending by 1% or so but let's cut salaries of teachers. Let's not let Germany, Japan and othe rnations protect themselves but let's cut teachers salaries. Let's vote republican for such womderful ideas.
PilotX said...
ReplyDelete"I am sure you are a product of public schools."
Yes I am. And unlike you who dropped out of the 4th grade I actually graduated from college and make more money than you.
What a silly man, you can barely spell basic words that are actually at a 4th grade level, yet you have the temerity to assume you achieved a higher education level than I, make more money than I. Have you always been this dimwitted? Or is something else to blame? If I were you I would go back to your college and demand that they refund your tuition to me and other taxpayers who footed the bill. We got ripped off.
I appreciate my teachers and fight for hardworking folks unlike you who collects wefare and fight for millionaires. Maybe you should have stayed oin a public school, would have done you some good.
The dimwitted logic may not be a solely a product of public education, it seems to be genetic.
You say " I collect welfare and fight for millionaires". Really, when did that happen? Are you confusing me with friends family and the people you know who collect welfare? I don't fight for millionaires they can stand on their own, but what have you against someone who pays the majority of bills of this country? Don't you think you will ever be successful aside from the employment some "millionaire" created for you? Surely you don't think the world owes you anything just because you are you?
Socialists, if you had the same high standards the free market requires you might get a little further with your artificial middle class creation, as of now all it has done is destroy this country financially and eliminated quality, standards and competence.
PilotX said...
ReplyDelete"The point of discussion is salary, not love for teachers, not worshipping your ideals, rather what are we getting for the huge amounts of money and how is this impacting our debt and the education of students overall. I would say we spend a fortune and aren't getting much back at all."
So to solve our debt problem is to reduce the salaries of teachers? Great plan. The plan to create better schools is to lower the salary of teachers? God, republicans have such great plans don't they. Let's not let Bush tax cuts expire let's cut salaries of teachers. Let's not cut defense spending by 1% or so but let's cut salaries of teachers. Let's not let Germany, Japan and othe rnations protect themselves but let's cut teachers salaries. Let's vote republican for such womderful ideas.
No lets' vote democrat and never look problems in the eye, just keep taking others money and wasting it until we are all dumb and broke and a nation of janitors.
Oh please with your idiocy if you can't stay logical stop creating positions you want to pigeonhole other into because you cannot think rationally.
No one is reducing the salaries of anyone you nitwit. What they are asking is reasonableness from teachres in a time when nearly everyone in the country is impacted by getting no raise or a very small one, the teachers who make a VERY good salary in terms of accountability, pension plan, health care, time off are still demanding over 16%.
Now, lets try this again, people who pay their salaries are not getting 16% salary increases and on average make half of what the teachers do and even less if you factor in benefits.
How long do you think these teachers will have a job if they aren't reasonable? Haven't we seen this play out in numerous other bankrupt cities?
And to me most importantly, what is their claim to demand all these outlandish compensation packages? They are creating a nation of idiots who can barely read/write. Who tests the teachers for literacy and curriculum knowledge?
"What a silly man, you can barely spell basic words that are actually at a 4th grade level, yet you have the temerity to assume you achieved a higher education level than I, make more money than I. Have you always been this dimwitted? Or is something else to blame? If I were you I would go back to your college and demand that they refund your tuition to me and other taxpayers who footed the bill. We got ripped off."
ReplyDeleteOh really? Are you the product of a private school? Did you graduate from college? What was your major? What does a genius such as yourself do for a living? Can you come up with a name so we can track your lies and distortions? Thanks.
"Who tests the teachers for literacy and curriculum knowledge?"
ReplyDeleteIf you don't even know the answer to this basic question what business do you have discussing thi smatter as if you have any idea of what you speak? You're not even from Chicago so I know you don't know any CPS teachers or administrators so your arguments are pure speculation and conjecture. Nice try though.
PilotX said...
ReplyDelete"You have become idiotic with your jealousy and hatred. The people who pay their salary make half as much."
So by that logic the president, congress, mayors and any public employee should take a pay cut because they make more money than me. Common sense is not very common. Jealosy much troll? Again, no mention of CEO's who make 30 times the salary of their employees that do the actual work at a company. Pile on teachers but leave CEO's alone. Sick
It's impossible to talk logic with someone this angry and stupid. Have you always been unable to connect paper to wood and to trees? Maybe your next campaign should be for maple trees who are being treated unfairly because Oak trees get more sunlight, maybe you should just cut them all down and make them all equal but dead.
Pilot X said..
ReplyDeleteCan you come up with a name so we can track your lies and distortions? Thanks.
No one else is commenting, don't allude to there being a lie, call it out. You and I know there aren't any lies, yet somehow you resort to calling me a liar to save face. Although you have lost respect for this liberal tactic.
Fact you do not like are not relabeled lies.
"No one else is commenting"
ReplyDeleteOh the stupid is strong in this one.
"ROMNEY: I believe it’s important to have a president and I will be a president, if elected, that honors that pledge and all the pledges that I made. [The Pledge of Allegiance] says that we are a nation under God…. If I become president of the United States, I will not take God out of my heart, I will not take God out of the public square and I will not take it out of the platform of my party."
ReplyDeleteThank Allah, Shiva, mormo or whatever that rawmoney won't take our gods out of his heart or the public square. Becaue we all know how much Zeus hates being kicked out of the public square. Hooray for imaginary beings.
"Fact you do not like are not relabeled lies."
ReplyDeleteAnd this comment is from the so called "educated" troll. Ha!
PilotX said...
ReplyDelete"Who tests the teachers for literacy and curriculum knowledge?"
If you don't even know the answer to this basic question what business do you have discussing thi smatter as if you have any idea of what you speak? You're not even from Chicago so I know you don't know any CPS teachers or administrators so your arguments are pure speculation and conjecture. Nice try though.
Sigh, I know the answer very well. Yet you seem to have misplaced the part of the discussion where you voiced your opinion that teachers being held accountable was unacceptable and there needed to be a better (easier on the teachers) way. My question is with the "unfair" levels of accountability in existence, who is actually holding the teachers accountable - for obviously they have failed horribly and yet you want to lower standards even further and the only reason they are striking is they do not want standards.
Do I need to simplify things even more so you can grasp the main concepts of the discussion? You seem to forget what you have said or perhaps never really understood what your own words meant and they are confusing you. Here:
The issue is Chicago teachers have a meaningless checklist they use to evaluate teachers now, this has resulted in the following achievements below.
So with this in mind , what is your reason for not wanting to improve teachers performance to match the wonderful "living wages" they are supposed to be earning? With earning being the key word, teaching or state jobs are not a form of welfare despite what you might think.
79 percent of Chicago public school 8th graders were not grade-level proficient in reading. According to the U.S. Department of Education, this included 43 percent who rated “basic” and 36 percent who rated “below basic.”
In the 8th grade math test, Chicago public school 8th graders scored an average of 270 out of 500, compared to an average of 274 for 8th graders in “large city” public schools, and 283 for 8th graders nationally as well as statewide in Illinois.
With these NAEP test results, only 17 percent of Chicago public school 8th graders rated proficient in math while another 3 percent rated advanced—for a total of 20 percent who rated proficient or better.
Thus, 80 percent of Chicago public school 8th graders were not grade-level proficient in math. According to the U.S. Department of Education, this included 40 percent who rated “basic” in math and 40 percent who rated “below basic.”
Pilot X on fire again. This dumb ass makes no sense at all. You would think this blog would be called Negro X as much space as this joker takes up. If you don't agree with him you're uneducated, on welfare , white and a republican. Though I believe most Obama supporters ate black, uneducated, democrats on welfare. Why else would they support him?
ReplyDeletePilotX said...
ReplyDelete"Fact you do not like are not relabeled lies."
And this comment is from the so called "educated" troll. Ha!
Oh I am sorry, did I offend your pigeon English?
Fact's that you do not like, cannot be relabeled lies. There, so now that I have corrected my completely discernible yet grammatically incorrect sentence lets dispense with your idiotic diversionary tactic and get back to the question you avoided, You claimed I have lied. Please detail precisely what lies I have said.
Put up or shut up with your weak tactics.
Blogger PilotX said...
ReplyDelete"No one else is commenting"
Oh the stupid is strong in this one.
Lets see from 1713 until 1703 it was just you and I. You really don't have much in your arsenal of with. Is this the best you can do? You avoid everything relevant and talk shit, not only do you talk shit, you are glaringly obvious about just how feeble your mind is.
The mind of an ant with the beliefs of a grasshopper. I am sure even this simple reference will float over your tiny skull and be out of your grasp.
"I am sure even this simple reference will float over your tiny skull and be out of your grasp."
ReplyDeleteAnd the simple notion of answering my simple questions and request you create a name is completely lost on you. I know how this game is played, you refuse to name yourself so you can post later and never be held to the posts you made earlier. Nice try though troll. Yeah, the X man is no match for your brilliance. Ha!
"Fact's that you do not like, cannot be relabeled lies. There, so now that I have corrected my completely discernible yet grammatically incorrect sentence"
ReplyDeleteOK, you can't pay for comic gold like this! OMFG, and THIS is the "educated" one. Ha!!!!!!!!!
WTF are fact's?????????????
ReplyDeleteBwwwwwwaaaaaahhhhhahaaaaaa!
Command of the English language isn't popular in the trailer park huh?
PilotX said...
ReplyDelete"How dare they teach kids and try to make a difference in their communties!"
Some diffrerence, as 80% of the students in the Chicago Schools cannot read proficiently!
For this stellar performance, these union slugs were offered a 16% raise over four years, when the average person has seen his wages decrease 16% over the past four years.
What a cesspool of incompetence and entitlement public sector unions breed, and teachers unions, because of how important their job is to the future, are the worst.
Parasites sucking the life out of black and brown children.
Vermin.
PilotX > Wingnut
ReplyDeleteHouse Coon has spoken.
ReplyDeleteBut he always says that.
PilotX said...
ReplyDeleteWTF are fact's?????????????
Bwwwwwwaaaaaahhhhhahaaaaaa!
Command of the English language isn't popular in the trailer park huh?
Sigh, of the entire discussion this is the only thing the idiot can hang his little skullcap on.
So now did a misplaced apostrophe make your ridiculousness any more credible? Make any more sense? Help you address the basic questions?
You after all your misspelled words and horrible sentence structure caught someone else making a horrible mistake. So everything you did now becomes acceptable enough for you to become an incompetent hypocrite.
Well you are you are.
You win you are the biggest idiot.
That's what said.
ReplyDeletePilotX > Wingnut
PilotX said...
ReplyDelete"Fact's that you do not like, cannot be relabeled lies. There, so now that I have corrected my completely discernible yet grammatically incorrect sentence"
OK, you can't pay for comic gold like this! OMFG, and THIS is the "educated" one. Ha!!!!!!!!!
It's funny how you even argue against your own straw arguments forgetting that you were the one who actually said them.
When did I say I was the educated one? Or are you just acting out your inferiority complex? Though to be fair, I certainly do understand why you thought it was so.
Blogger PilotX said...
ReplyDelete"No one else is commenting"
Oh the stupid is strong in this one.
Lets see from 1713 until 1703 it was just you and I. You really don't have much in your arsenal of with. Is this the best you can do? You avoid everything relevant and talk shit, not only do you talk shit, you are glaringly obvious about just how feeble your mind is.
The mind of an ant with the beliefs of a grasshopper. I am sure even this simple reference will float over your tiny skull and be out of your grasp.
7:23 PM
Blogger PilotX said...
"I am sure even this simple reference will float over your tiny skull and be out of your grasp."
And the simple notion of answering my simple questions and request you create a name is completely lost on you. I know how this game is played, you refuse to name yourself so you can post later and never be held to the posts you made earlier. Nice try though troll. Yeah, the X man is no match for your brilliance. Ha!
What game? You can't even justify your "simple" positions without resorting to diversionary tactics. Just like the teachers you think offering nothing gives you the right to make demands.
You can't reply because your positions are inept and ill thought out, you want someone to demonize and polarize that is all I see from you, no thought on the issue, only thought on who might have the opinion.
The X man - uhh - now how stereotypical can you get.
Unless you do this I aint answerin the questuns you axed I aint stoopid I be de x-man
LOL - enough. Go play with the buttons on your tv or something. You win, you are just to damn smart for me and I can't cope. Even though I detailed my thoughts anonymously, you can't simply defend your indefensible rants because u just knows someones out ta trick you and spin da words.
Lawdy yes the x-man cometh to da U-ess-of-A - Hallelujah
Thanks for proving the point that we need urgently to raise the standards of public education.
And thats the "fact's" Missa X-man
HAHA
The Twosqueegy Airman wins again!
ReplyDelete"I don't ever want to see Obama again as President. He has the attitude of a black Republican catering to only Whites."
ReplyDeleteYou nailed it. Many Blacks probably feel the way you do. PilotX and Field are in terror over that possibility. I am sure there are surveys to prove it. Even more so as we near the elections. Sorry Field.:)
nonymous said...
ReplyDeleteBlogger PilotX said...
"No one else is commenting"
Oh the stupid is strong in this one.
Lets see from 1713 until 1703 it was just you and I. You really don't have much in your arsenal of with. Is this the best you can do? You avoid everything relevant and talk shit, not only do you talk shit, you are glaringly obvious about just how feeble your mind is.
Correction that should have read 1903 -before the childlike mind of Pilot goes teacher accountability what accountability nanny-nanny-poo-poo
Aint nobuddy gone stop my brillance
ReplyDeleteI be de x-man and I'se da shit. I aint no disinginous thang.
Wut, wut? Whats your name? whos your momma? Why you askin me these questions. I aint answerin shit till you tells me where you live, what you eat, where you go to school, what your momma name is, how much you make a year...sheeettt.
Sheeeeettttt.
PilotX, "No one else is commenting"
ReplyDeleteThat is because no one supports or buys the stupid crap you put out. And furthermore, you are a fool to expect support from FN Negroes. FN Negroes always seem to disappear when competition shows up. Your supporters are all mouth, which is what you Dems are known for...ALL MOUTH AND NO ACTION! That includes Obama.
You must be new here. I played for a while but as anyone who's been here for more than a while knows I have two rules if one wants to have a conversation 1. choose a name and 2. stick with it so I know with whom I'm communicating. Simple requests no? If not you can see the results, more anons start commenting and I don't know if it's the original anon or another but you already know that right? Either you're doing that to hide in the weeds among your fellow anons or you're not too bright. Why would I want to communicate with either type of person? I guess we can go back to ignoring each other.
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