Placing the emergency supplies shortage where it belongs, finally. BTW, the Strategic Reserve shipped out the last of the N-95 masks a week ago, all 77 of them and drumpf has publicly stated he has no intention of adding to the stockpile.
A must read.... wingnuts managed to get the sweetest of all sweetheart tax evasion deals in the new stimulus hoax. For the wealthiest of the wealthy and now they can go back to living tax free like before the 2017 changes.
7 million people left Wuhan, China in January...after government officials knew about coronavirus human to human transmission (and suppressed it) before travel was restricted (NYT).
Put your faith in Dementia Joe and the rest of the lefty commies, open up the borders so 7 billion people can come here and study the virus. Maybe stay home and watch Dr. Fauci fap one off over pics of his squeeze HRC? You commie assholes on here are the virus and the problem, low info mouth breathers that need deported post haste. Why no words of enlightenment from Halfrican Jesus Obongo? Surely there must be a witch Doctor in his family tree that knows the cure? Maybe all the welfare given to NPR(Negro Public Radio), PBS, and illegals 350$ million could have been better spent on PPE and Med research? But the UPChuck and Nancy show can't figure this out. The left, stupid as always and will never change.
The leader absent playing golf was the first one to institute a travel ban and promote the use of Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment.
And, as per usual, drumpf did a piss poor job on both fronts. His ban was not inclusive enough and full of holes (plus drumpf flying in infected Americans on commercial airlines) and pushing a drug that needs months of clinical tests and pushing these drugs so people rushed out to buy up the supplies needed for testing.
By the time trump instituted his travel ban mt airline and others had already stopped flying to Wuhan. Also had he kept the infectious disease team in place this very problem could have been nipped in the bud. Also even if he did ONE correct response he made 10 incorrect. "It's 15 now it'll be five then zero". Yeah, great leadership. Economy ruined, entire industries destroyed and the entire country stuck in the house with people they don't like, I guess he made America great again huh?
If it is spread by breathing (a.k.a. "aerosol" spreading)...then why isn't there an environmentally safe spray that can be sprayed like with mosquito spraying for west nile...etc?
Isn't the USA "supposed" to be the world leaders in EVERYTHING?
"IF OBAMA DID THIS THEN ALL OF THE DEPLORABLES WOULD BE CALLING FOR HIS PUBLIC LYNCHING!"
Obama did, with ebola and H1N1, much more incompetently than the current COVID-19 response has been. No one called for his public lynching, and the press covered for him instead of spending all their time trying to falsely exaggerate government missteps.
"If it is spread by breathing (a.k.a. 'aerosol' spreading)...then why isn't there an environmentally safe spray that can be sprayed like with mosquito spraying for west nile...etc?"
Because that's not a case of killing West Nile but instead killing the mosquitoes that carry it.
Most of the COVID-19 virus isn't in the air. It's in people. It only enters the air when people sneeze or cough. There would have to be a device that could instantly spray some kind of super-powerful (yet safe for humans) chemical into the air at the exact moment you sneeze, thereby neutralizing the virus before it could infect anyone. That technology doesn't exist.
Here's Proof That Aerosol Transmission aka Transmission By Air...Also Includes "TALKING" AND EXHALING THROUGH THE NOSE AND MOUTH SPREADS THE CORONA VIRUS.
AFTER LISTENING TO THE INFECTIOUS DISEASE DOCTOR ON A NATIONAL NEWS NETWORK WHO STATED THAT THE CORONA VIRUS IS SPREAD VIA "AEROSOL" TRANSMISSION WHICH MEANS BY: COUGHING, SNEEZING, AS WELL AS "TALKING" AND EXHALING THROUGH THE NOSE AND MOUTH
IT IS VERY WELL DOCUMENTED AS NOTED IN "ANNEX C" BELOW (WHICH IS EXCERPTED FROM THE ABOVE MENTIONED ARTICLE
There have been several studies on the number and size of droplets of saliva and other secretions from respiratory activities (Jennison, 1942; Duguid, 1945; Hamburger & Roberston, 1946; Loudon & Roberts, 1967; Papineni & Rosenthal, 1997; Fennelly et al., 2004) and excellent reviews have been written (Nicas, Nazaroff & Hubbard, 2005; Morawska, 2006). These studies and reviews note that the size of droplet nuclei due to sneezing, coughing and talking is likely to be a function of the generation process and the environmental conditions. The actual size distribution of droplets also depends on parameters, such as the exhaled air velocity, the viscosity of the fluid and the flow path (i.e. through the nose, the mouth or both) (Barker, Stevens & Bloomfield, 2001). There is also a great individual variability (Papineni & Rosenthal, 1997; Fennelly et al., 2004).
Humans can produce respiratory aerosols (droplets) by several means, including breathing, talking, coughing (Figure C.1, A), sneezing (Figure C.1, B) and even singing (Wong, 2003; Toth et al., 2004).
ALTHOUGH THE VIRUS IS MOST DEFINATELY SPREAD THROUGH SNEEZING AND COUGHING....MOST PEOPLE AREN'T GOING AROUND SNEEZING OR COUGHING ALL DAY.
HOWEVER, WHAT EVERYONE IS DOING IS BREATHING (EXHALING) THROUGH THE MOUTH AND NOSE EVERY SECOND AS WELL AS TALKING. SINCE EVERYONE TALKS AND BREATHES EVERY FEW SECONDS...FACT STANDS TO REASON THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST INTENSE AND QUICKEST MODE OF TRANSMISSION (ESPECIALLY DUE THE MASSIVE NUMBER AND THE RAPIDNESS OF THE SPREAD).
THINK: ON A COLD WINTER DAY..WHEN YOU EXHALE OR BLOW INTO THE AIR CAN'T YOU SEE THE CONDENSATION COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH AND GOING INTO THE ATMOSPHERE?
WE COME INTO CLOSE CONTACT WITH PEOPLE BREATHING THROUGHOUT THE DAY IN ALL ASPECTS OF OUR DAILY LIVES: AIRPLANES, AIRPORTS, BUSSES, SUBWAYS, STANDING ON LINE AT THE COSTCO, WALMART, SUPERMARKET, CLASSROOMS, AND THE LIST GOES ON.
"Humans can produce respiratory aerosols (droplets) by several means, including breathing, talking, coughing (Figure C.1, A), sneezing (Figure C.1, B) and even singing (Wong, 2003; Toth et al., 2004)."
Great. Even if true, which is highly debatable despite this study, this changes nothing. There is no technology that could respond to people exhaling and neutralize a virus as it is expelled into the air. We don't have any such disinfectant or a machine that could deploy it with perfect timing.
This is not like fogging an area with pesticide to kill disease-bearing mosquitoes, which you only have to do once every several hours. And even that only puts a small dent in mosquito-borne illnesses. Otherwise, malaria wouldn't kill huge numbers every year in Africa.
WHEN YOU EXHALE THE CONDESATION COMES OUT OF YOUR MOUTH AND NOSE AS YOU CAN SEE IF YOU BREATHE OUT OR TALK AND YOU CAN SEE ACTUAL PROOF WHEN YOU EXHALE THROUGH YOUR MOUTH OR NOSE ON A COLD WINTER DAY YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE CONDENSATION....
SO IT IS EASY TO SEE HOW THE AEROSOL SPREAD OF CORONA INCLUDES TALKING AND EXHALING THROUGH MOUTH AND NOSE.
Thank you. I sure do wish that we had an environmentally safe and "HUMAN SAFE" organically grown spray that could be used and sprayed from airplanes that could kill this virus in the air.
Maybe that's something that our scientists could focus on. Hell, that could be something that maybe our billionnaires could focus on donating money to for research.
Story Number One makes the Orange so blue ‘Cause he cannot stand being Story Number Two. He is such a sad clown, he is such a loud moan-ah ‘Cause he wanted a crown, but he got a corona!
PilotX @ 1:48 PM, drumpf finally turned Obama's economy asround and sent it packing towards the Southern border pretty pronto.
Anyfuckingmoose, I don't depend on lies and made up shit from Fake Noize to form my opinions, which easily explains why you are a phucking moroon and I am normal.
Wuhan residents estimate, based on calculations of cremations and urns now being returned to families, that between 42,000-46,000 (!!) died in city and surrounding areas in the 2.5 months of lockdown. Far more than official figure of 2,535 deaths.
So now it's coming clear what the stakes are: millions infected, hundreds of thousands dead, just like the scientists said. Or worse. Decades from now, when the history of the event is written up, the withholding of relief supplies to hospitals in states who Fergus felt were insufficiently sycophantic to him will be noted as the monstrosity that it is. And hopefully there will be a note about those who supported him throughout the demolition of the country he presided over. And let history also show that we tried to warn you.
"Decades from now, when the history of the event is written up, the withholding of relief supplies to hospitals in states who Fergus felt were insufficiently sycophantic to him will be noted as the monstrosity that it is."
Wrong.
It's already been noted as the fiction that it is.
The leader absent playing golf was the first one to institute a travel ban and promote the use of Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment.
1:06 PM ---------- Who would that be? Eisenhower? He played a lot of golf but not as much a Trump. Also Gerald Ford spent much of his time on the links. Obama spent a fraction of the time playing golf as our current, incompetent president spends.
Anthony Fauci estimated the death toll of the outbreak at ~100,000.
That’s probably not an unrealistic estimate. We’re at 139,000 known cases now. If the number of infections were to grow at an average of 20% a day until peaking two weeks from now, the number of infections at the peak of growth would be about 1.8 million. Then you have to double that, because there will be roughly as many who become infected after the peak as before it, so a grand total of 3.6 million get infected.
If we assume a worst-case death rate of 3%, because hospitals get overwhelmed, that works out to 100,000 dead Americans.
Put your faith in Dementia Joe and the rest of the lefty commies, open up the borders so 7 billion people can come here and study the virus. Maybe stay home and watch Dr. Fauci fap one off over pics of his squeeze HRC? You commie assholes on here are the virus and the problem, low info mouth breathers that need deported post haste. Why no words of enlightenment from Halfrican Jesus Obongo? Surely there must be a witch Doctor in his family tree that knows the cure? Maybe all the welfare given to NPR(Negro Public Radio), PBS, and illegals 350$ million could have been better spent on PPE and Med research? But the UPChuck and Nancy show can't figure this out. The left, stupid as always and will never change.
1:15 PM ---------------------- WTF? You have no facts here. Storm Front and Breitbart are the places for you to post. You will be welcome, even appreciated there - here not so much.
"IF OBAMA DID THIS THEN ALL OF THE DEPLORABLES WOULD BE CALLING FOR HIS PUBLIC LYNCHING!"
"Obama did, with ebola and H1N1, much more incompetently than the current COVID-19 response has been. No one called for his public lynching, and the press covered for him instead of spending all their time trying to falsely exaggerate government missteps."
2:19 PM ----------------- Gambler2 said....
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html The United States mounted a complex, multi-faceted and long-term response to the pandemic, summarized in The 2009 H1N1 Pandemic: Summary Highlights, April 2009-April 2010. On August 10, 2010, WHO declared an end to the global 2009 H1N1 influenza pandemic. However, (H1N1)pdm09 virus continues to circulate as a seasonal flu virus, and cause illness, hospitalization, and deaths worldwide every year.
Obama handled the H1N1 a thousand times better than Trump is managing Covid19. And Obama's quick response to Ebola was magnificent.
San Francisco officials refusing to be transparent with coronavirus information, cite need to lie:
"Health departments in Bay Area make case releasing more granular data could heighten discrimination against certain communities where there might be clusters.The first cases in Bay Area were among ethnic Chinese residents returning from trips to China."
By not indicating where hot spots of infection are, they are increasing the risk of spread.
trump himself said it. He told the head of the corona taskforce to ignore calls from Washington and Michigan if they weren't "appreciative" enough. This is what happena when we elect a 9 year old drama queen.
The Fantastic Negrito asked his fans to send him video clips of what they were doing in quarantine, and he made a music video out of them called Chocolate Samurai and it kicks some holy ass:
Here's the corona virus "SMOKING GUN" ...GERM WARFARE but nobody wants to talk about it: Except the New York Post as indicated in the following article: Written By Steven Mother
At an emergency meeting in Beijing held last Friday, Chinese leader Xi Jinping spoke about the need to contain the coronavirus and set up a system to prevent similar epidemics in the future.
A national system to control biosecurity risks must be put in place “to protect the people’s health,” Xi said, because lab safety is a “national security” issue.
Xi didn’t actually admit that the coronavirus now devastating large swaths of China had escaped from one of the country’s bioresearch labs. But the very next day, evidence emerged suggesting that this is exactly what happened, as the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology released a new directive titled: “Instructions on strengthening biosecurity management in microbiology labs that handle advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus.”
Read that again. It sure sounds like China has a problem keeping dangerous pathogens in test tubes where they belong, doesn’t it? And just how many “microbiology labs” are there in China that handle “advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus”?
It turns out that in all of China, there is only one. And this one is located in the Chinese city of Wuhan that just happens to be … the epicenter of the epidemic.
That’s right. China’s only Level 4 microbiology lab that is equipped to handle deadly coronaviruses, called the National Biosafety Laboratory, is part of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
What’s more, the People’s Liberation Army’s top expert in biological warfare, a Maj. Gen. Chen Wei, was dispatched to Wuhan at the end of January to help with the effort to contain the outbreak.
According to the PLA Daily, Chen has been researching coronaviruses since the SARS outbreak of 2003, as well as Ebola and anthrax. This would not be her first trip to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, either, since it is one of only two bioweapons research labs in all of China.
Does that suggest to you that the novel coronavirus, now known as SARS-CoV-2, may have escaped from that very lab, and that Chen’s job is to try to put the genie back in the bottle, as it were? It does to me.
------------------------------------- SOUNDS LIKE GERM WARFARE TO ME TO.
Here's the corona virus "SMOKING GUN" ...GERM WARFARE proof but nobody wants to talk about it: Except the New York Post as indicated in the following article: Written By Steven Mother
At an emergency meeting in Beijing held last Friday, Chinese leader Xi Jinping spoke about the need to contain the coronavirus and set up a system to prevent similar epidemics in the future.
A national system to control biosecurity risks must be put in place “to protect the people’s health,” Xi said, because lab safety is a “national security” issue.
Xi didn’t actually admit that the coronavirus now devastating large swaths of China had escaped from one of the country’s bioresearch labs. But the very next day, evidence emerged suggesting that this is exactly what happened, as the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology released a new directive titled: “Instructions on strengthening biosecurity management in microbiology labs that handle advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus.”
Read that again. It sure sounds like China has a problem keeping dangerous pathogens in test tubes where they belong, doesn’t it? And just how many “microbiology labs” are there in China that handle “advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus”?
It turns out that in all of China, there is only one. And this one is located in the Chinese city of Wuhan that just happens to be … the epicenter of the epidemic.
That’s right. China’s only Level 4 microbiology lab that is equipped to handle deadly coronaviruses, called the National Biosafety Laboratory, is part of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
What’s more, the People’s Liberation Army’s top expert in biological warfare, a Maj. Gen. Chen Wei, was dispatched to Wuhan at the end of January to help with the effort to contain the outbreak.
According to the PLA Daily, Chen has been researching coronaviruses since the SARS outbreak of 2003, as well as Ebola and anthrax. This would not be her first trip to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, either, since it is one of only two bioweapons research labs in all of China.
Does that suggest to you that the novel coronavirus, now known as SARS-CoV-2, may have escaped from that very lab, and that Chen’s job is to try to put the genie back in the bottle, as it were? It does to me.
Also fueling suspicions about SARS-CoV-2’s origins is the series of increasingly lame excuses offered by the Chinese authorities as people began to sicken and die.
They first blamed a seafood market not far from the Institute of Virology, even though the first documented cases of Covid-19 (the illness caused by SARS-CoV-2) involved people who had never set foot there. Then they pointed to snakes, bats and even a cute little scaly anteater called a pangolin as the source of the virus.
I don’t buy any of this. It turns out that snakes don’t carry coronaviruses and that bats aren’t sold at a seafood market. Neither, for that matter, are pangolins, an endangered species valued for their scales as much as for their meat.
The evidence points to SARS-CoV-2 research being carried out at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The virus may have been carried out of the lab by an infected worker or crossed over into humans when they unknowingly dined on a lab animal. Whatever the vector, Beijing authorities are now clearly scrambling to correct the serious problems with the way their labs handle deadly pathogens.
China has unleashed a plague on its own people. It’s too early to say how many in China and other countries will ultimately die for the failures of their country’s state-run microbiology labs, but the human cost will be high.
But not to worry. Xi has assured us that he is controlling biosecurity risks “to protect the people’s health.” PLA bioweapons experts are in charge.
I doubt the Chinese people will find that very reassuring. Neither should we.
------------------------------------- SOUNDS LIKE GERM WARFARE TO ME TO.
UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ENGINEERS RECENTLY DEVELOPED THE "NON THERMAL PLASMA DEVICE" THAT REMOVES 99.9% OF AIRBORNE VIRUSES AND BACTERIA.
IT IS CURRENTLY BEING USED IN PIG BARNS TO KILL AIRBORNE VIRUSES THAT PIGS GET. THE ENGINEERS FEEL THAT THIS PROTOTYPE MAY ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR FACE MASKS IN THE FUTURE BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS VERY EFFECTIVE IN BARNS BECAUSE IT KILLS 99.9% OF THE AEROSOL VIRUSES IN THE BARN. HERE IS THE WEBSITE. (THE VIDEO OF THE PROTOTYPE IS ON THE WEBISTE)
Now the damn fool is accusing hospitals that don't have enough protective gear for the people who are working there to try and save people's lives of selling it on the black market.
Wouldn't it be nice if Fergus just fucked off and went golfing or something?
It's pretty obvious that it's a man engineered virus, but that doesn't affect me as far as my feelings for the people of China, who are a good, honest hardworking people as the next. All governments in their quest for power as well as defense against attack have developed these weapons, it has nothing to do with the people of the country.
I myself have been ordering from the Chinese companies Wish like crazy, (as much as I can anyway $, as a way of keeping me sane and entertained, and that will continue, they're holding all packages until June anyway so I'm not concerned about it, I leave them in the heat on the porch anyway for 72 hours then I spray them with Lysol and leave them some more :D
dr drumpf is bound and determined his professional medical opinion about using untested drugs for Covid 19 treatment gets out there and people die because of it.
"It's pretty obvious that it's a man engineered virus,....."
-------------------------- Please post the source that supports your opinion. We would like to know where your information originate. Link? website? ??????
1. Accidental release of a virus from a laboratory. 2. Transmission from an animal virus, possibly from a Chinese "wet market".
Since China has made no moves to curtail wet markets (which apparently are back in business), it would seem they do not think this was the origin of the coronavirus.
In a word: Republicans.
ReplyDelete-Doug in Sugar Pine
What Doug said.
Deletehttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/technology/coronavirus-fauci-trump-conspiracy-target.html?fbclid=IwAR3mKDPzbrkf-sKhBA_7O-TVXQTn1SMde1sMJi40dZs9LR_6riL-u75mfOA
ReplyDeleteMaking Amerika great again! Wait for it.....now it's a 'shit hole of a country', shithead.
ReplyDeleteAhhh, how many cases in Norway, Russia, Israel, or North Korea?
The explanation is easy: The guy's a fucking schnook.
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MA received 17% of requested medical supplies from the Trump admin. ME: 5%. CO: 1 day's worth.
FL got everything they requested. + an identical shipment the next week. oh, and a 3rd is on the way.
https://washingtonpost.com/national/healt
-Doug in Sugar Pine
I'm going to spend my $,1200 on Pepto-Bismol.
ReplyDeleteLast updated: March 29, 2020, 13:15 GMT
ReplyDeleteUnited States
Coronavirus Cases:
123,781
Deaths:
2,229
Wait. There'll be moar, drumpf body count.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-coronavirus-masks/
ReplyDeletePlacing the emergency supplies shortage where it belongs, finally. BTW, the Strategic Reserve shipped out the last of the N-95 masks a week ago, all 77 of them and drumpf has publicly stated he has no intention of adding to the stockpile.
Leadership you will die from.
drumpf's comassionate conservatism at its finest.....
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/duty2warn/status/1243941873808478209/photo/1
A must read.... wingnuts managed to get the sweetest of all sweetheart tax evasion deals in the new stimulus hoax. For the wealthiest of the wealthy and now they can go back to living tax free like before the 2017 changes.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.cnn.com/2020/03/28/opinions/stimulus-bill-tax-break-for-1-mccaffery/index.html
WHO:
ReplyDeleteJan 14: “No clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of coronavirus"
Feb 7: "Masks don't necessarily protect you"
Feb 17: "...extremely cautious using term pandemic"
Mar 23: Treating COVID19 with Hydroxychloroquine could cause a drug shortage
What's the theme here?
Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete"What's the theme here?"
12:38 PM
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Incompetence?
Confusion?
Lack of coherent leadership?
Leader absent playing golf?
The leader absent playing golf was the first one to institute a travel ban and promote the use of Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment.
ReplyDelete7 million people left Wuhan, China in January...after government officials knew about coronavirus human to human transmission (and suppressed it) before travel was restricted (NYT).
ReplyDelete7 million people.
Put your faith in Dementia Joe and the rest of the lefty commies, open up the borders so 7 billion people can come here and study the virus. Maybe stay home and watch Dr. Fauci fap one off over pics of his squeeze HRC? You commie assholes on here are the virus and the problem, low info mouth breathers that need deported post haste. Why no words of enlightenment from Halfrican Jesus Obongo? Surely there must be a witch Doctor in his family tree that knows the cure? Maybe all the welfare given to NPR(Negro Public Radio), PBS, and illegals 350$ million could have been better spent on PPE and Med research? But the UPChuck and Nancy show can't figure this out. The left, stupid as always and will never change.
ReplyDeleteChina’s successful weaponization of the Baizuo mindset is probably even worse than the virus long-term.
ReplyDeleteThe leader absent playing golf was the first one to institute a travel ban and promote the use of Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment.
ReplyDeleteAnd, as per usual, drumpf did a piss poor job on both fronts. His ban was not inclusive enough and full of holes (plus drumpf flying in infected Americans on commercial airlines) and pushing a drug that needs months of clinical tests and pushing these drugs so people rushed out to buy up the supplies needed for testing.
Like I said, leadershit that kills.
anyfuckingmoose @ 1:15 PM, racyst much?
ReplyDeleteLast updated: March 29, 2020, 17:39 GMT
ReplyDeleteUnited States
Coronavirus Cases:
133,094
Deaths:
2,363
By the time trump instituted his travel ban mt airline and others had already stopped flying to Wuhan. Also had he kept the infectious disease team in place this very problem could have been nipped in the bud. Also even if he did ONE correct response he made 10 incorrect. "It's 15 now it'll be five then zero". Yeah, great leadership. Economy ruined, entire industries destroyed and the entire country stuck in the house with people they don't like, I guess he made America great again huh?
ReplyDeleteIF OBAMA DID THIS THEN ALL OF THE DEPLORABLES WOULD BE CALLING FOR HIS PUBLIC LYNCHING!
ReplyDeleteKeep up the Great Work Field....
ReplyDeleteThanks for keeping it real and for telling it like it is.
We will all keep the faith that the POTUS and his advisers will see the light and make the appropriate decisions.
ReplyDeleteKeep the faith everyone.
If it is spread by breathing (a.k.a. "aerosol" spreading)...then why isn't there an environmentally safe spray
ReplyDeletethat can be sprayed like with mosquito spraying for west nile...etc?
Isn't the USA "supposed" to be the world leaders in EVERYTHING?
Why is the government "hoarding" ventilators?
ReplyDeleteI smell a rat here.... follow the money trail people.
WAKE UP!
...and he accused Obama of doing nothing but play golf.
ReplyDeleteI'll bet they're praying for the "Black Messiah" now.
Oh but than again....maybe not because they'll always vote against their best interest as long as it's preaching racial divisiveness.
Uhhhh...who's country is a "Shit Hole Country" now?
ReplyDelete"IF OBAMA DID THIS THEN ALL OF THE DEPLORABLES WOULD BE CALLING FOR HIS PUBLIC LYNCHING!"
ReplyDeleteObama did, with ebola and H1N1, much more incompetently than the current COVID-19 response has been. No one called for his public lynching, and the press covered for him instead of spending all their time trying to falsely exaggerate government missteps.
"His ban was not inclusive enough"
ReplyDeletemike in January: "Drumpf's travel ban is racist extremism!"
mike now: "Drumpf's travel ban should have been more extreme!"
Fuck you.
Heard by our fearless leader:
ReplyDelete"I don't give a #$!!!#!!! what the numbers are. "
"The only numbers I care about are on my stocks and bonds!"
"Let's get these sick !@#$%!!!! back to work NOW!!!! "
"Cough, cough, cough, bring me one of those 100 ventilators that I hoarded!"
"If it is spread by breathing (a.k.a. 'aerosol' spreading)...then why isn't there an environmentally safe spray
ReplyDeletethat can be sprayed like with mosquito spraying for west nile...etc?"
Because that's not a case of killing West Nile but instead killing the mosquitoes that carry it.
Most of the COVID-19 virus isn't in the air. It's in people. It only enters the air when people sneeze or cough. There would have to be a device that could instantly spray some kind of super-powerful (yet safe for humans) chemical into the air at the exact moment you sneeze, thereby neutralizing the virus before it could infect anyone. That technology doesn't exist.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK143281/
ReplyDeleteHere's Proof That Aerosol Transmission aka Transmission By Air...Also Includes "TALKING" AND EXHALING THROUGH THE NOSE AND MOUTH SPREADS THE CORONA VIRUS.
AFTER LISTENING TO THE INFECTIOUS DISEASE DOCTOR ON A NATIONAL NEWS NETWORK WHO STATED THAT THE CORONA VIRUS IS SPREAD VIA "AEROSOL" TRANSMISSION WHICH MEANS BY:
COUGHING, SNEEZING, AS WELL AS "TALKING" AND EXHALING THROUGH THE NOSE AND MOUTH
IT IS VERY WELL DOCUMENTED AS NOTED IN "ANNEX C" BELOW (WHICH IS EXCERPTED FROM THE ABOVE MENTIONED ARTICLE
There have been several studies on the number and size of droplets of saliva and other secretions from respiratory activities (Jennison, 1942; Duguid, 1945; Hamburger & Roberston, 1946; Loudon & Roberts, 1967; Papineni & Rosenthal, 1997; Fennelly et al., 2004) and excellent reviews have been written (Nicas, Nazaroff & Hubbard, 2005; Morawska, 2006). These studies and reviews note that the size of droplet nuclei due to sneezing, coughing and talking is likely to be a function of the generation process and the environmental conditions. The actual size distribution of droplets also depends on parameters, such as the exhaled air velocity, the viscosity of the fluid and the flow path (i.e. through the nose, the mouth or both) (Barker, Stevens & Bloomfield, 2001). There is also a great individual variability (Papineni & Rosenthal, 1997; Fennelly et al., 2004).
Humans can produce respiratory aerosols (droplets) by several means, including breathing, talking, coughing (Figure C.1, A), sneezing (Figure C.1, B) and even singing (Wong, 2003; Toth et al., 2004).
ALTHOUGH THE VIRUS IS MOST DEFINATELY SPREAD THROUGH SNEEZING AND COUGHING....MOST PEOPLE AREN'T GOING AROUND SNEEZING OR COUGHING ALL DAY.
ReplyDeleteHOWEVER, WHAT EVERYONE IS DOING IS BREATHING (EXHALING) THROUGH THE MOUTH AND NOSE EVERY SECOND AS WELL AS TALKING. SINCE EVERYONE TALKS AND BREATHES EVERY FEW SECONDS...FACT STANDS TO REASON THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST INTENSE AND QUICKEST MODE OF TRANSMISSION (ESPECIALLY DUE THE MASSIVE NUMBER AND THE RAPIDNESS OF THE SPREAD).
THINK: ON A COLD WINTER DAY..WHEN YOU EXHALE OR BLOW INTO THE AIR CAN'T YOU SEE THE CONDENSATION COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH AND GOING INTO THE ATMOSPHERE?
WE COME INTO CLOSE CONTACT WITH PEOPLE BREATHING THROUGHOUT THE DAY IN ALL ASPECTS OF OUR DAILY LIVES: AIRPLANES, AIRPORTS, BUSSES, SUBWAYS, STANDING ON LINE AT THE COSTCO, WALMART, SUPERMARKET, CLASSROOMS, AND THE LIST GOES ON.
"Humans can produce respiratory aerosols (droplets) by several means, including breathing, talking, coughing (Figure C.1, A), sneezing (Figure C.1, B) and even singing (Wong, 2003; Toth et al., 2004)."
ReplyDeleteGreat. Even if true, which is highly debatable despite this study, this changes nothing. There is no technology that could respond to people exhaling and neutralize a virus as it is expelled into the air. We don't have any such disinfectant or a machine that could deploy it with perfect timing.
This is not like fogging an area with pesticide to kill disease-bearing mosquitoes, which you only have to do once every several hours. And even that only puts a small dent in mosquito-borne illnesses. Otherwise, malaria wouldn't kill huge numbers every year in Africa.
WHEN YOU EXHALE THE CONDESATION COMES OUT OF YOUR MOUTH AND NOSE AS YOU CAN SEE IF YOU BREATHE OUT OR TALK AND YOU CAN SEE ACTUAL PROOF WHEN YOU EXHALE THROUGH YOUR MOUTH OR NOSE ON A COLD WINTER DAY YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE CONDENSATION....
ReplyDeleteSO IT IS EASY TO SEE HOW THE AEROSOL SPREAD OF CORONA INCLUDES TALKING AND EXHALING THROUGH MOUTH AND NOSE.
Thank you. I sure do wish that we had an environmentally safe and "HUMAN SAFE" organically grown spray that could be used and sprayed from airplanes that could kill this virus in the air.
ReplyDeleteMaybe that's something that our scientists could focus on. Hell, that could be something that maybe our billionnaires could focus on donating money to for research.
He’s Number Two
ReplyDeleteStory Number One makes the Orange so blue
‘Cause he cannot stand being Story Number Two.
He is such a sad clown, he is such a loud moan-ah
‘Cause he wanted a crown, but he got a corona!
Nice bit of rhyming, Paradoctor, and so so true.
ReplyDeletePilotX @ 1:48 PM, drumpf finally turned Obama's economy asround and sent it packing towards the Southern border pretty pronto.
ReplyDeleteAnyfuckingmoose, I don't depend on lies and made up shit from Fake Noize to form my opinions, which easily explains why you are a phucking moroon and I am normal.
Phuck ewe.
Country singer Joe Diffie "corona timeline.....
ReplyDeleteTested positive last week
Dead this week.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/joe-diffie-country-singer-dead-obituary-974556/
How many times did killer drumpf claim he had it under control or it was contained?
ReplyDeleteLast updated: March 29, 2020, 20:22 GMT
ReplyDeleteUnited States
Coronavirus Cases:
138,908
Deaths:
2,438
Wuhan residents estimate, based on calculations of cremations and urns now being returned to families, that between 42,000-46,000 (!!) died in city and surrounding areas in the 2.5 months of lockdown. Far more than official figure of 2,535 deaths.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/wuhan-deaths-03272020182846.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWB6Ufh4O98
ReplyDeleteSo now it's coming clear what the stakes are: millions infected, hundreds of thousands dead, just like the scientists said.
ReplyDeleteOr worse.
Decades from now, when the history of the event is written up, the withholding of relief supplies to hospitals in states who Fergus felt were insufficiently sycophantic to him will be noted as the monstrosity that it is.
And hopefully there will be a note about those who supported him throughout the demolition of the country he presided over.
And let history also show that we tried to warn you.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
"Decades from now, when the history of the event is written up, the withholding of relief supplies to hospitals in states who Fergus felt were insufficiently sycophantic to him will be noted as the monstrosity that it is."
ReplyDeleteWrong.
It's already been noted as the fiction that it is.
For God's sake man, get a grip on reality.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteThe leader absent playing golf was the first one to institute a travel ban and promote the use of Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment.
1:06 PM
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Who would that be? Eisenhower? He played a lot of golf but not as much a Trump. Also Gerald Ford spent much of his time on the links. Obama spent a fraction of the time playing golf as our current, incompetent president spends.
Anthony Fauci estimated the death toll of the outbreak at ~100,000.
ReplyDeleteThat’s probably not an unrealistic estimate. We’re at 139,000 known cases now. If the number of infections were to grow at an average of 20% a day until peaking two weeks from now, the number of infections at the peak of growth would be about 1.8 million. Then you have to double that, because there will be roughly as many who become infected after the peak as before it, so a grand total of 3.6 million get infected.
If we assume a worst-case death rate of 3%, because hospitals get overwhelmed, that works out to 100,000 dead Americans.
We have to hope it isn’t even worse.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-29/california-broken-ventilators-silicon-valley-newsom
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeletePut your faith in Dementia Joe and the rest of the lefty commies, open up the borders so 7 billion people can come here and study the virus. Maybe stay home and watch Dr. Fauci fap one off over pics of his squeeze HRC? You commie assholes on here are the virus and the problem, low info mouth breathers that need deported post haste. Why no words of enlightenment from Halfrican Jesus Obongo? Surely there must be a witch Doctor in his family tree that knows the cure? Maybe all the welfare given to NPR(Negro Public Radio), PBS, and illegals 350$ million could have been better spent on PPE and Med research? But the UPChuck and Nancy show can't figure this out. The left, stupid as always and will never change.
1:15 PM
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WTF? You have no facts here. Storm Front and Breitbart are the places for you to post. You will be welcome, even appreciated there - here not so much.
CNN: "Dr. Birx is no one we can trust on the matter of how to deal with this coronavirus outbreak any longer!"
ReplyDeleteCNN: "Next on the air with us to discuss all of the needed steps to take in this pandemic, Sean Penn"...
Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete"IF OBAMA DID THIS THEN ALL OF THE DEPLORABLES WOULD BE CALLING FOR HIS PUBLIC LYNCHING!"
"Obama did, with ebola and H1N1, much more incompetently than the current COVID-19 response has been. No one called for his public lynching, and the press covered for him instead of spending all their time trying to falsely exaggerate government missteps."
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Gambler2 said....
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html
The United States mounted a complex, multi-faceted and long-term response to the pandemic, summarized in The 2009 H1N1 Pandemic: Summary Highlights, April 2009-April 2010. On August 10, 2010, WHO declared an end to the global 2009 H1N1 influenza pandemic. However, (H1N1)pdm09 virus continues to circulate as a seasonal flu virus, and cause illness, hospitalization, and deaths worldwide every year.
Obama handled the H1N1 a thousand times better than Trump is managing Covid19. And Obama's quick response to Ebola was magnificent.
States don't get the necessary equipment to help it's citizens unless they show appreciation for Chairman Trump. What the hell.
ReplyDelete"States don't get the necessary equipment to help it's citizens unless they show appreciation for Chairman Trump. What the hell."
ReplyDeleteThat's a lie. Wesley. Don't fall for it.
San Francisco officials refusing to be transparent with coronavirus information, cite need to lie:
ReplyDelete"Health departments in Bay Area make case releasing more granular data could heighten discrimination against certain communities where there might be clusters.The first cases in Bay Area were among ethnic Chinese residents returning from trips to China."
By not indicating where hot spots of infection are, they are increasing the risk of spread.
Political correctness kills.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/us/coronavirus-data-privacy.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
Bill de Blasio, Mayor of New York:
ReplyDeleteMarch 2: No virus problem here. Patronize your favorite restaurants. Go to the parade. It's cool.
March 24: Better chill on the rim jobs.
March 29: Violators of social distancing guidelines will be fined $500.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/490099-new-yorkers-who-break-social-distancing-rules-subject-to-fines-of-up-to
"That's a lie. Wesley. Don't fall for it."
ReplyDeletetrump himself said it. He told the head of the corona taskforce to ignore calls from Washington and Michigan if they weren't "appreciative" enough. This is what happena when we elect a 9 year old drama queen.
He needs to be removed immediately!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/27/coronavirus-trump-told-pence-not-to-call-washington-michigan-governors.html
Michigan Governor has already walked that story back.
ReplyDeleteCome on, X.
Pig People:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/i/status/1244390633239871488
"Michigan Governor has already walked that story back."
ReplyDeleteWhat story? I watched him make those comments. THOSE ARE HIS WORDS!
Watch it for yourself.
ReplyDeletehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sov6nQhqwis
Dozens of Videos of Chinese Nationals Caught Intentionally Spreading the Corona Virus:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/i/status/1242560682672844801
You’re not gonna believe this, but the Chinese lied.
ReplyDeleteThe Fantastic Negrito asked his fans to send him video clips of what they were doing in quarantine, and he made a music video out of them called Chocolate Samurai and it kicks some holy ass:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bolqbyi1VMQ
-Doug in Sugar Pine
Here's the corona virus "SMOKING GUN" ...GERM WARFARE but nobody wants to talk about it:
ReplyDeleteExcept the New York Post as indicated in the following article: Written By Steven Mother
https://nypost.com/2020/02/22/dont-buy-chinas-story-the-coronavirus-may-have-leaked-from-a-lab/
At an emergency meeting in Beijing held last Friday, Chinese leader Xi Jinping spoke about the need to contain the coronavirus and set up a system to prevent similar epidemics in the future.
A national system to control biosecurity risks must be put in place “to protect the people’s health,” Xi said, because lab safety is a “national security” issue.
Xi didn’t actually admit that the coronavirus now devastating large swaths of China had escaped from one of the country’s bioresearch labs. But the very next day, evidence emerged suggesting that this is exactly what happened, as the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology released a new directive titled: “Instructions on strengthening biosecurity management in microbiology labs that handle advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus.”
Read that again. It sure sounds like China has a problem keeping dangerous pathogens in test tubes where they belong, doesn’t it? And just how many “microbiology labs” are there in China that handle “advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus”?
It turns out that in all of China, there is only one. And this one is located in the Chinese city of Wuhan that just happens to be … the epicenter of the epidemic.
That’s right. China’s only Level 4 microbiology lab that is equipped to handle deadly coronaviruses, called the National Biosafety Laboratory, is part of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
What’s more, the People’s Liberation Army’s top expert in biological warfare, a Maj. Gen. Chen Wei, was dispatched to Wuhan at the end of January to help with the effort to contain the outbreak.
According to the PLA Daily, Chen has been researching coronaviruses since the SARS outbreak of 2003, as well as Ebola and anthrax. This would not be her first trip to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, either, since it is one of only two bioweapons research labs in all of China.
Does that suggest to you that the novel coronavirus, now known as SARS-CoV-2, may have escaped from that very lab, and that Chen’s job is to try to put the genie back in the bottle, as it were? It does to me.
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SOUNDS LIKE GERM WARFARE TO ME TO.
Here's the corona virus "SMOKING GUN" ...GERM WARFARE proof but nobody wants to talk about it:
ReplyDeleteExcept the New York Post as indicated in the following article: Written By Steven Mother
https://nypost.com/2020/02/22/dont-buy-chinas-story-the-coronavirus-may-have-leaked-from-a-lab/
At an emergency meeting in Beijing held last Friday, Chinese leader Xi Jinping spoke about the need to contain the coronavirus and set up a system to prevent similar epidemics in the future.
A national system to control biosecurity risks must be put in place “to protect the people’s health,” Xi said, because lab safety is a “national security” issue.
Xi didn’t actually admit that the coronavirus now devastating large swaths of China had escaped from one of the country’s bioresearch labs. But the very next day, evidence emerged suggesting that this is exactly what happened, as the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology released a new directive titled: “Instructions on strengthening biosecurity management in microbiology labs that handle advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus.”
Read that again. It sure sounds like China has a problem keeping dangerous pathogens in test tubes where they belong, doesn’t it? And just how many “microbiology labs” are there in China that handle “advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus”?
It turns out that in all of China, there is only one. And this one is located in the Chinese city of Wuhan that just happens to be … the epicenter of the epidemic.
That’s right. China’s only Level 4 microbiology lab that is equipped to handle deadly coronaviruses, called the National Biosafety Laboratory, is part of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
What’s more, the People’s Liberation Army’s top expert in biological warfare, a Maj. Gen. Chen Wei, was dispatched to Wuhan at the end of January to help with the effort to contain the outbreak.
According to the PLA Daily, Chen has been researching coronaviruses since the SARS outbreak of 2003, as well as Ebola and anthrax. This would not be her first trip to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, either, since it is one of only two bioweapons research labs in all of China.
Does that suggest to you that the novel coronavirus, now known as SARS-CoV-2, may have escaped from that very lab, and that Chen’s job is to try to put the genie back in the bottle, as it were? It does to me.
Also fueling suspicions about SARS-CoV-2’s origins is the series of increasingly lame excuses offered by the Chinese authorities as people began to sicken and die.
They first blamed a seafood market not far from the Institute of Virology, even though the first documented cases of Covid-19 (the illness caused by SARS-CoV-2) involved people who had never set foot there. Then they pointed to snakes, bats and even a cute little scaly anteater called a pangolin as the source of the virus.
I don’t buy any of this. It turns out that snakes don’t carry coronaviruses and that bats aren’t sold at a seafood market. Neither, for that matter, are pangolins, an endangered species valued for their scales as much as for their meat.
The evidence points to SARS-CoV-2 research being carried out at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The virus may have been carried out of the lab by an infected worker or crossed over into humans when they unknowingly dined on a lab animal. Whatever the vector, Beijing authorities are now clearly scrambling to correct the serious problems with the way their labs handle deadly pathogens.
China has unleashed a plague on its own people. It’s too early to say how many in China and other countries will ultimately die for the failures of their country’s state-run microbiology labs, but the human cost will be high.
But not to worry. Xi has assured us that he is controlling biosecurity risks “to protect the people’s health.” PLA bioweapons experts are in charge.
I doubt the Chinese people will find that very reassuring. Neither should we.
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SOUNDS LIKE GERM WARFARE TO ME TO.
Author of the NY Post Article about possible accidental escape of the corona virus from a Wuhan Lab is
ReplyDeleteSteven Mosher
WTF...BIO-RESEARCH LABS IN CHINA ARE UNREGULATED????? AND THERE'S ONE IN WUHAN???!!!
ReplyDeleteIF SO THIS IS A WORLD WIDE DISASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/internet-stunned-after-sociopath-trump-brags-his-pandemic-press-conferences-are-getting-ratings-like-the-bachelor-finale/
ReplyDelete
ReplyDeleteUNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ENGINEERS RECENTLY DEVELOPED THE
"NON THERMAL PLASMA DEVICE" THAT REMOVES 99.9% OF AIRBORNE VIRUSES AND BACTERIA.
IT IS CURRENTLY BEING USED IN PIG BARNS TO KILL AIRBORNE VIRUSES THAT PIGS GET.
THE ENGINEERS FEEL THAT THIS PROTOTYPE MAY ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR FACE MASKS IN THE FUTURE BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS VERY EFFECTIVE IN BARNS BECAUSE IT KILLS 99.9% OF THE AEROSOL VIRUSES IN THE BARN. HERE IS THE WEBSITE. (THE VIDEO OF THE PROTOTYPE IS ON THE WEBISTE)
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-new-device-can-kill-99-9-of-an-airborne-virus-in-the-blink-of-an-eye
THIS COULD BE THE ANSWER TO WHAT THE DOCTORS AND NURSES MAY NEED IN THE HOSPITAL ROOMS WHILE TAKING CARE OF PATIENTS..
Can you unstick the cap lock? Thanks.
DeleteNow the damn fool is accusing hospitals that don't have enough protective gear for the people who are working there to try and save people's lives of selling it on the black market.
ReplyDeleteWouldn't it be nice if Fergus just fucked off and went golfing or something?
-Doug in Sugar Pine
John Prine is hospitalized and fighting for his life against COVID-19.
ReplyDelete-Doug in Sugar Pine
It's pretty obvious that it's a man engineered virus, but that doesn't affect me as far as my feelings for the people of China, who are a good, honest hardworking people as the next. All governments in their quest for power as well as defense against attack have developed these weapons, it has nothing to do with the people of the country.
ReplyDeleteI myself have been ordering from the Chinese companies Wish like crazy, (as much as I can anyway $, as a way of keeping me sane and entertained, and that will continue, they're holding all packages until June anyway so I'm not concerned about it, I leave them in the heat on the porch anyway for 72 hours then I spray them with Lysol and leave them some more :D
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ReplyDeleteLast updated: March 30, 2020, 12:18 GMT
ReplyDeleteUnited States
Coronavirus Cases:
142,793
Deaths:
2,490
drumpf body count exceeded 1000 in New York.
Prine would be a serious loss, if and when it happens.
ReplyDeleteOK wingnuts you're barking up the wrong trees, again, some more, as per usual and too, still yet.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.pop.org/facebook-blocks-steven-moshers-new-york-post-article-calls-it-false-information/
Mosher is the new John Solomon wannabe, I guess.
dr drumpf is bound and determined his professional medical opinion about using untested drugs for Covid 19 treatment gets out there and people die because of it.
ReplyDeletehttps://thehill.com/homenews/administration/490110-fda-issues-emergency-use-authorization-for-anti-malaria-drugs-amid
Now ask your favorite dumbfuck wingnuts why they oppose patient suicides.
ReplyDeleteThe chickens have come home to roost and the Evangelicals new 'savior in chief ' has no answers not a one.
ReplyDeleteLilacpr said....
ReplyDelete"It's pretty obvious that it's a man engineered virus,....."
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Please post the source that supports your opinion. We would like to know where your information originate. Link? website? ??????
Options for the origins of coronavirus are:
ReplyDelete1. Accidental release of a virus from a laboratory.
2. Transmission from an animal virus, possibly from a Chinese "wet market".
Since China has made no moves to curtail wet markets (which apparently are back in business), it would seem they do not think this was the origin of the coronavirus.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf
https://www.ccn.com/hiv-ebola-like-mutations-suggest-coronavirus-leaked-from-a-lab/
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/baseless-conspiracy-theories-claim-new-coronavirus-was-bioengineered/
ReplyDeleteFact check humbly disagrees with anymoose some more.
mike: Everything left-wing fake fact check sites tell me is a baseless conspiracy is a baseless conspiracy.
ReplyDeleteAlso mike: The President is a puppet of Valdimir Putin and is doing everything he can to maximize the death toll from coronavirus.
ReplyDeleteAlso mike: The President is a puppet of Valdimir Putin and is doing everything he can to maximize the death toll from coronavirus.
And he sets out to prove it everyday.
From Nature Medicine:
ReplyDelete"Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus."
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9
-Doug in Sugar Pine
More pablum from the loser left.....wah wah
ReplyDeleteTRUMP 2020!!
ReplyDeleteTrump aka "Lumpy," could be the first person to lose the popular vote twice and be re-elected after being impeached.
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