Thursday, September 17, 2009

Who is W. Cleon Skousen?


I am really pissed tonight so I am going to probably do a cut and paste job. If I do one of my regular posts I am going to curse too much. I am really trying to cut back on my cursing. Not because of the main stream folks who told me that they would publish and link more of my work if I didn't curse so much. (Fuck them) But because as my blog gets more popular, some of Mrs. Field's acquaintances and co-workers are starting to read it, and she says it embarrasses her when I curse. So there you have it.

Anyway, thanks to Danmell Ndonye, a young woman who cried rape where there was none; (I wonder if all the folks who were defending the Duke boys came to these boys defense up in New York? *crickets*) Rush Limp-boy who wants segregated school buses; (As if we don't have that shit now.) and Joe Wilson's dumb ass son, who doesn't think his daddy is a racist because he doesn't laugh at all those racial["distasteful"] jokes. (Maybe he just doesn't think those racial jokes are funny. Maybe he knows much better racial jokes. I mean who gives a f..-see, there I go again- who cares if he doesn't laugh at some jokes? Since when is how you laugh at a joke a measuring stick for racism? Give me a break! ) I find myself wanting to count to ten every time I start writing.

See why I can't blog tonight? Just one paragraph and my head is already about to explode with all the dumb shit going on in A-merry-ca.

Since I can't write anymore without going all Fred Sanford and getting the "big one", here is an excellent article from Salon.com about one of the people who started silly season here in A-merry-ca:

"By Alexander Zaitchik
Sep. 16, 2009

On Saturday, I spent the afternoon with America's new breed of angry conservative. Up to 75,000 protesters had gathered in Washington on Sept. 12, the day after the eighth anniversary of the World Trade Center attacks, sporting the now familiar tea-bagger accoutrements of "Don't Tread on Me" T-shirts, Revolutionary War outfits and Obama-the-Joker placards. The male-skewing, nearly all-white throng had come to denounce the president and what they believe is his communist-fascist agenda.

Even if the turnout wasn't the 2 million that some conservatives tried, briefly, to claim, it was still enough to fill the streets near the Capitol. It was also ample testament to the strength of a certain strain of right-wing populist rage and the talking head who has harnessed it. The masses were summoned by Glenn Beck, Fox News host and organizer of the 912 Project, the civic initiative he pulled together six months ago to restore America to the sense of purpose and unity it had felt the day after the towers fell.

In reality, however, the so-called 912ers were summoned to D.C. by the man who changed Beck's life, and that helps explain why the movement is not the nonpartisan lovefest that Beck first sold on air with his trademark tears. Beck has created a massive meet-up for the disaffected, paranoid Palin-ite "death panel" wing of the GOP, those ideologues most susceptible to conspiracy theories and prone to latch on to eccentric distortions of fact in the name of opposing "socialism." In that, they are true disciples of the late W. Cleon Skousen, Beck's favorite writer and the author of the bible of the 9/12 movement, "The 5,000 Year Leap." A once-famous anti-communist "historian," Skousen was too extreme even for the conservative activists of the Goldwater era, but Glenn Beck has now rescued him from the remainder pile of history, and introduced him to a receptive new audience.

Anyone who has followed Beck will recognize the book's title. Beck has been furiously promoting "The 5,000 Year Leap" for the past year, a push that peaked in March when he launched the 912 Project. That month, a new edition of "The 5,000 Year Leap," complete with a laudatory new foreword by none other than Glenn Beck, came out of nowhere to hit No. 1 on Amazon. It remained in the top 15 all summer, holding the No. 1 spot in the government category for months. The book tops Beck's 912 Project "required reading" list, and is routinely sold at 912 Project meetings where guest speakers often use it as their primary source material. At one 912 meet-up I attended in Florida, copies were stacked high on a table against the back wall, available for the 912 nice price of $15. "Don't bother trying to get it at the library," one 912er told me. "The wait list is 40 deep."
What has Beck been pushing on his legions? "Leap," first published in 1981, is a heavily illustrated and factually challenged attempt to explain American history through an unspoken lens of Mormon theology. As such, it is an early entry in the ongoing attempt by the religious right to rewrite history. Fundamentalists want to define the United States as a Christian nation rather than a secular republic, and recasting the Founding Fathers as devout Christians guided by the Bible rather than deists inspired by the French and English philosophers. "Leap" argues that the U.S. Constitution is a godly document above all else, based on natural law, and owes more to the Old and New Testaments than to the secular and radical spirit of the Enlightenment. It lists 28 fundamental beliefs -- based on the sayings and writings of Moses, Jesus, Cicero, John Locke, Montesquieu and Adam Smith -- that Skousen says have resulted in more God-directed progress than was achieved in the previous 5,000 years of every other civilization combined.."



Big H/T to Greg Fuller for turning me on to this article.


99 comments:

Ernesto said...

Back in the '60s they called these nutcases "John Birchers". They are a lunatic fringe of the population, no more than about 3-5 percent. But they are a loud ass little handful and they have a big megaphone thanks to the Republican Party/Fox Noise channel. I am actually looking roward to them coming out in the Republican primaries and helping Sarah Palin , patron saint of dumbasses everywhere, to win the nomination. This will effectively render the right wing further out into the wilderness in 4 years. Bully for them!

Black Butterfly said...

Glenn Beck is a zombie leading more zombies. SMH

Monie said...

Wow, that false rape case at Hofstra is just crazy. She def ought to face charges and face the same 25 years that they did.

Anonymous said...

Well, Beck can do what he does and garner followers like Xi because we live in a Christian nation with lots of Christians who think they know Christ but in truth it's their ego talking.

Whenever Christians become involved in politics, trouble isn't too far behind.

Anonymous said...

@Monie -- In alleged sex crimes like this, I think there needs to be a shield law for both parties that extends until a trial commences at which point the trial judge can decide whether to continue the shield of the accused until after a verdict. The shield wouldn't apply in cases where the suspect was an imminent threat to the community (serial rapist on the loose etc.) and authorities need help apprehending or ID'ing a person of interest. The press could do this on their own as many do now in regards to alleged victims.

I remember when I first saw these kids' faces plastered everywhere and I wondered why on Earth it was national news. Local news, yes but not national. It bothered me then because it seemed weird that this went national and so big. The press acted like they had another Yale case and were about to launch into the hysteria meme of "are our children safe on campus."

This girl needs to be punished** (that's without a doubt) but a shield law for both parties or just a common practice not to publish names of the accused in certain sex based cases until a certain time by news agencies would've prevented this damage to the young men. Waiting until trial or even a set time, would've saved the young men's reputations. Most baseless charges that are thrown out and recants take place before trial.

That said, they're getting enough press now that they'll get a lot of support and help from people.

**One thing on punishing accusers in general... Rape victims and sex crime victims commonly drop charges or refuse to testify because it's often a he said/she said situation and they don't want to go to trial when the odds of winning are minuscule. I think we need to be very careful we don't punish real victims who do decide against going to trial as opposed to fake victims who falsely accuse.

--j

p.s. I live that the Avatars are showing up on the main article comment area now! :)

Monie said...

@j

I agree, a double shield would be a good thing. But in a nation as polarized on so many different fronts as this one is I'm not sure if the (All powerful media giants) would stand for missing opportunities to stir up the muck.

Anonymous said...

@Monie -- You're right but I wish you weren't. They could make just as much of it by publishing all kinds of stuff just without the names. They do it all the time with underage perpetrators and victims. The name of the accused or the alleged victim isn't integral to ratings unless it's a celebrity or politician based story where people are watching or reading just because a celeb or pol did something. Rename all the players in any given novel and the story will be just as good -- you lose some flavor but not so much that a good novel doesn't remain a good novel. But of course, the media giants would rather make something of whatever the backgrounds are so they can stir up some ethnic, racial, gender, or religious etc. tensions. Sad.

--j

--j

La♥Incognita said...

This is unfortunate. False rape claims make it difficult for other women who are real victims, especially for black females.

Is this woman pulled her story because she lied beforehand (and not because of threats etc..) then she should be punished by law just the same.

Monie said...

@La♥Incognita

Initially I thought she may have recanted due to some sort of outside pressure, as you allude to. But according to the article there is photographic evidence that supposedly shows she was not forced to have sex.

Race Traitoress said...

Former conservative Salt Lake City mayor J. Bracken Lee said of former SLC police chief Skousen,

"The man is a master of half-truths. In at least three instances I have proven him to be a liar. He is a very dangerous man [and] one of the greatest spenders of public funds of anyone who ever served in any capacity in Salt Lake City government."

This also from Wikipedia:

In 1987, controversy erupted in California over the term "pickaninny" used in Skousen's book The Making Of America, when it was considered as a textbook by the National Center for Constitutional Studies.

smh

Race Traitoress said...

@Monie - and apparently 4 of the 5 men admitted they had consensual sex with her.

This young woman is, what, 18?

I'm absolutely not excusing her behavior, but it's clear this young woman is not her own best friend. Sad.

tawana brawley said...

"I wonder if all the folks who were defending the Duke boys came to these boys defense up in New York? *crickets*"

I wonder why the NAACP, New Black Panther Party, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and all those other black males who were set to lynch those white boys- why didn't they come to this young woman's defense? Why weren't they threatening these black boys (hey, you called them boys first FN) like they did with them Duke boys???? I'm sure Jesse Jackson will give this woman $10,000 just like he gave Crystal Mangum AFTER she was found to be lying. Right? How come this hasn't happened..... and won't??? *crickets*

Anonymous said...

We need to bring back Fundamentalism and segregated school buses for black and white students. That kid should not have been beaten that way.

I say segregate the races. We are separated by centuries of racism anyway. Whites don't want their children on the same bus as Blacks for the very reason what happened in the video. I don't blame them.

Anonymous said...

"I wonder why the NAACP, New Black Panther Party, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and all those other black males who were set to lynch those white boys- why didn't they come to this young woman's defense?"

They learned from the Duke incident not to jump to conclusions because women lie about rape.

Monie said...

@Race Traitoress

"...but it's clear this young woman is not her own best friend. Sad..."

Yeah that's true.

Race Traitoress said...

Anonymous at 12:50

You're a coward and small-minded. And where do you get off speaking for so-called "whites"?

STFU

Race Traitoress said...

hell's bells, field, I'm jonesin' to drop several f-bombs myself.

perhaps it's time for me to step away from "teh internets."

Monie said...

@Ernesto

"...This will effectively render the right wing further out into the wilderness in 4 years. Bully for them!..."

But wouldn't be nice to have a two (or even three) party system where we actually had a choice?

As it stands forward thinking people are stuck voting for Democrats. Doesn't that give the Dems too much power?

Green Party? A new Progressive Party?

La♥Incognita said...

Monie, yeah I read where there were photographic 'evidence". hmmm

Sexual violation can represent itself in various ways. I was thinking earlier, why were they taping or taking pics? I doubt she consented.

I wold figure she thought she knew what she was getting into, but then things turned for a twist. (Which would eventually happen when you realize you're outnumbered and not in control of your own body.) A situation like this can confuse a victim in which causes them to flip flop on what they think happened. A rape isn't always traditional in the sense.

You know, most people may wonder why a female would place herself in this situation. But I also wonder why would some males set themselves up, or put themselves in liable situations like this. These boys are not innocent either.

(Also makes you wonder, how should I woman look or act when she's being raped?)

Race Traitoress said...

@La Incognita

You know, most people may wonder why a female would place herself in this situation. But I also wonder why would some males set themselves up, or put themselves in liable situations like this. These boys are not innocent either.

cosign

I'm no prude, but when these young men admitted straight up to all having sex with this woman and no one seemed to bat an eye at that. . .just one of those things that made me go "hmmm." This is just an unfortunate situation all around.

Monie said...

@La♥Incognita

"...Also makes you wonder, how should I woman look or act when she's being raped?..."

That's very true. I can think of circumstances where a women might feign her consent in order to survive.

-----------------------------

"...You know, most people may wonder why a female would place herself in this situation. But I also wonder why would some males set themselves up, or put themselves in liable situations like this. These boys are not innocent either..."

Age? Inexperience? Getting caught-up in the moment? Peer pressure?

Gregory said...

Here we go, just in case anyone was wondering where Mr. R. & Frank D. got their ideas. I've seen this asshat's books passed around since I was a kid (a very long time ago), usually produced by an insane person who insisted that you read it, because it was "rilly rilly important".

The fact that Skousen is still being read should put to rest the racist notion that whites are, genetically speaking, intellectually superior to anyone.

Anonymous said...

@Race Traitoress -- lol. Gotta love the trolls. It's always the dumbest, and often most vile, fool who thinks he/she speaks for a given group. The distinctions we draw are largely artificial** -- real only in the sense that make them real and keep acting on our belief in them -- and yet they think they speak for whatever demographic has been created.

**Sex/gender is about the only one that's biologically real.

--j

uptownsteve said...

My brothers are gonna get away with raping that white ho.Thank god Obama is president.If Bush was president they would have been killed by the police.

I'm lovin' this post-racial America.

Anonymous said...

That should be "...in the sense that we make them real..."

--j

Anonymous said...

@uptownsteve -- Pretty positive the girl was black. Nice try though.

--j

MR.R said...
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MR.R said...

Another black woman lying about being raped?

I figued she had to be black since no one was playing the race card and the liberal msm wasn't having newsgasms over the story.

Resse said...

MR.R said...
"Another black woman lying about being raped?

"I figued she had to be black since no one was playing the race card and the liberal msm wasn't having newsgasms over the story."

Didn't stop you from wetting your pants!

Anonymous said...

Mr. R you and your other identities are some of the lamest fail trolls I've ever encountered online. The FAIL just never stops and the fact that you keep coming back for more just makes it better. There's nothing more amusing than watching a racist make a fool of himself while he thinks himself smart. Not only are your posts some good ole fashioned hilarious self-inflicted fail (which makes it guilt free for those of us who don't like to pick on the mentally challenged) but they're also quite justifying -- proof that we're fighting the good fight. Just when folks think to themselves 'well maybe it's not race' or 'I guess I've seen so much racism in my life that maybe I'm too quick call it nowadays' you come along to prove everyone's instincts right.

Keep up the good work. It's so nice to see constant proof that (a)contrary to conservative assertions that we're just making it all up racists are very much still out there and (b) racists are sill dumber than a box of rocks.

--j

Shady_Grady said...

If there were no cell phone video of the (presumably enthusiastic) participants the woman likely would have stuck to her lie and innocent men would have been convicted.

It's incredible that even after the woman has recanted, video has been stated to show the "exact opposite" of the woman's claims and she is being criminally investigated that some people still want to believe in the possible criminal guilt or bad behavior of the men.

That said I do not understand any man that would want to have sex with a woman while she's having sex with another man or just afterwards. Incredibly disgusting. Sounds pretty freaking dumb too.

But not illegal. As far as putting yourself in a bad situation, that could happen to anyone. There's no foolproof way for a man to protect
himself against false rape allegations, short of not engaging with women at all. Even then, mistaken identity could happen...

Sometimes women lie. Fortunately in this case the lie was caught early. In future job apps will the men have to answer "yes" to the question of "have you ever been arrested?"

Although I think a double shield would be nice, in truth it would not be fair to the public or news media. Someone being arrested is news and people deserve to know.

Shady_Grady said...

As far as Beck, it's only been since 1978 that Blacks were even allowed to be Mormons. Has the Mormon church formally repudiated its stance that Blacks are the descendants of Cain?
I think that stuff is still in their "Bible".

marci said...

hey field..
apologies for interrupting this post.. have tried to mail you with a sighting of the lovely lark.. it bounced back sooo...
it's over at shadow and act...
http://www.shadowandact.com/?p=10356

have a great day..

kid said...

M
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I wonder why the NAACP, New Black Panther Party, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and all those other black males who were set to lynch those white boys- why didn't they come to this young woman's defense?"

They learned from the Duke incident not to jump to conclusions because women lie about rape.

12:54 AM

_______________________________
In the Duke case the "boys" were disappointed when the strippers showed up. They said they didn't like the one black and one Hispanic womwan that howed up. Actually bothe were black. The one of the boys took a handle off a household appliance and ask one of the strippers to "use it".Classy huh?

field negro said...

Nice discussion on the rape shield laws there folks. Sorry it had to be interrupted by our resident mascot. :)

Kid, why did you even waste your time explaining the difference to that moron?

"As far as Beck, it's only been since 1978 that Blacks were even allowed to be Mormons. Has the Mormon church formally repudiated its stance that Blacks are the descendants of Cain?
I think that stuff is still in their "Bible".'

Shady.. I am glad you went there. BTW, it's the fstest growing church here in A-merry-ca. Hmmm, I wonder why?

Marci,you don't ever have to apologize for a Lark sighting. :)

Anonymous said...

The fact that Skousen's book is a best seller indicates that there are more extemists out there than anyone knows.

Frank Drackman said...

Hey Spearchuckers!! Now I know how Fay Wray felt...Isn't this the day the Welfare checks come? My Check Cashin' Business would go belly up if it weren't for y'all. And I'd never heard of Glenn Beck till y'all started flappin your Category 5 Gums about him...I only listen to Sports talk radio..but that looks like a purty interestin book...Does it have any pictures??
Y'know we DO put saltpeter in the Malt Liquor...for flavor purposes only..

Frank

uptownsteve said...

"Sarah Palin , patron saint of dumbasses everywhere"

ROTFLMBAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RiPPa said...

Well, well well, looks like Tawana Brawley has grown up and done well for herself. She's at Hofstra now? I wonder if she's gonna get a Ph.D like Roxanne Shante?

Nah but all jokes aside...

does anyone know if the lying rape victim is white or black? I've been trying to get a line on that for a few days now.

See why you should always pack a video camera even if it's cell phone quality? I bet the rapper Mystikal wishes he had one of those at his disposal several years ago.

trickster206 said...

Her name sounds African. There are no pictures of her except for one through a peephole. Can't really see how she looks. The kid who had the cellphone is lucky. The bad part about it is that they would have to say they were arrested on a job application. Really they should nolly that so their records remain clean. The Daily News however, still calls them suspects as of yesterday bastards!

Shady Grady: When men go to brothels, they don't mind how many men the woman had minutes before they got there.

Frank Drackman said...

Man y'all Knee-grows are funnier than that time I through that bottle of Ipecac in the Monkey Cage at Zoo-Atlanta... So ya gotta find out what color the Rape-ee is before ya decide who's in the right??, let me Splain' it for y'all..
The "Accused" rapists are BLACK, so they're the bad guys, no matter what color the Rape-ee is, and BTW, shes blacker than Ted Kennedy's Soul..
Your welcome, now get make in your effin Cage..

Frank

uptownsteve said...

Field,

Just a heads up.

The lowlife who posted as "uptownsteve" at 2:04 am was not the real "uptownsteve".

There are some really sick folks on these boards.

Nothing better to do at 2 in the morning.

Sad.

Frank Drackman said...

Field,

Just a heads up.

The lowlife who posted as "uptownsteve" at 10:10am was not the real "uptownsteve".

There are some really sick folks on these boards.

Nothing better to do at 10 in the morning.

Sad

Anonymous said...

rightwingnut clutching "5000 Year Leap": "Duh, I read it in a book so it must be true. They wouldn't publish something that wuzn't true!"

sigh.

...yop

uptownsteve said...

Dag Frank,

You seem on edge lately.

Your new cellmate not as gentle with ya?

hm said...

Kid Said: "In the Duke case the "boys" were disappointed when the strippers showed up. They said they didn't like the one black and one Hispanic womwan that howed up. Actually bothe were black. The one of the boys took a handle off a household appliance and ask one of the strippers to "use it".Classy huh?"

Maybe they were "disappointed" that they were both ugly skanks. As far as your quote, were you there? Funny how blacks are still trying to tarnish the rep of these guys through fabrications.
If you want to see classy look at the actions of these 4 black colege guys- gangbanging some 18 year old ho. One said that is prison "We were treated like animals." They acted like animals even if it was consensual. For more classy black males see Jesse Jackson and the Central Park Puerto Rican Parade Rapefest.

Monie said...

What just a minute, how did I miss this?! A White guy named Cleon? Lmao!

MR.R said...

uptownsteve said...
Field,

Just a heads up.

The lowlife who posted as "uptownsteve" at 2:04 am was not the real "uptownsteve".


Field,

Just a heads up.....uptownsteve isn't black either.


I think we need to stop blaming the victim.The young hood rat is black.So what?

We know black women tend to be hypersexual and they can't control their sexual urges.

So lets try to understand the victim and not be racist.

uptownsteve said...

Monie

"What just a minute, how did I miss this?! A White guy named Cleon? Lmao!"


I have a client, a white woman from North Carolina, named "Shalomar".

Go down South and you'll see white guys named Rufus, Earl and Leroy.

Mr. R's mom is named Aquanetta.

Race Traitoress said...

@Shady Grady

As far as Beck, it's only been since 1978 that Blacks were even allowed to be Mormons. Has the Mormon church formally repudiated its stance that Blacks are the descendants of Cain?

I'm not Mormon, but I live in Utah, so I know quite a bit about the religion. Mormons have long accepted Blacks as members of their church, but it was in 1978 that Mormon men were "given the priesthood" or allowed to join the exalted ranks. Mormon women of any color cannot be "priests"; Mormon males become priests at age twelve.

As far as I know, Mormons still consider "white and delightsome" skin to be indicative of righteousness, though they don't broadcast this like they used to. They have long held that Black skin is the "mark of Cain" mentioned in the Old Testament.

Anonymous said...

Frank "So ya gotta find out what color the Rape-ee is before ya decide who's in the right??, let me Splain' it for y'all.."

Frank, in America you gotta know the color. If she is White, then it's a bad reflection on her. But if she is Black, it's a reflection on the entire race. i would think a dumb hillbilly like you would know that. guess there is no limit to stupidity.

Anonymous said...

"And I'd never heard of Glenn Beck till y'all started flappin your Category 5 Gums about him"

sometimes you make very good sense. guess the law of averages works even for you.

Ernesto said...

Monie: "As it stands forward thinking people are stuck voting for Democrats. Doesn't that give the Dems too much power?"

You are correct and Max Baucus is Exhibit A of how fucked up the current set-up is. The DNC is awash in corporate cash, and the RNC is 10x worse! What we really need is a Constitutional Amendment making all political campaigns 100 percent publically financed. Then the Supreme Court won't be able to equate bribery with free speech like they do now.

Anonymous said...

Race Traitoress said, "STFU".

I am surprised at your language, beautiful. i am sorry if i pissed you off. btw, i love your sun glasses and your name. i've been working a name...any suggestions?

RT said, "I'm no prude, but when these young men admitted straight up to all having sex with this woman and no one seemed to bat an eye at that. . .just one of those things that made me go "hmmm." This is just an unfortunate situation all around."

as a woman you should be angrier than a mild "hmmm". those dumb lustful jackasses didn't bat an eye because they are conditioned to treating women like inhumane sex objects.

it should piss you off enough to curse their black asses instead cursing me. anybody ever tell you that you tend to have double standards?

Ernesto said...

"the main stream folks who told me that they would publish and link more of my work if I didn't curse so much. (Fuck them)"

Field, I couldn't agree more. There is a time for civility but it ain't here and it sure ain't now. I am hoping that Obama includes at least five "those motherfuckers" and more than three "can kiss my black ass"es in his next town hall or speech to congress. His approval ratings would go through the roof.

Amanda said...

Totally OT - For Field:
http://bossip.com/154480/random-ridiculousness-lark-voorhies-playing-whitney-houston-in-biopic/#more-154480

Dailyfare said...

W. Cleon Skousen a real person or an anagram? or both?

Ernesto said...

Health care reform by the numbers:

http://www.campaignmoney.org/HMO_insurance_spend_to_kill_reform

A campaign finance watchdog’s analysis of insurance and HMO political contributions and lobbying expenses found the industries spent $126,430,438 over the first half of 2009 and $585,725,712 over the past two and a half years to influence public policy and elected officials. The group, Public Campaign Action Fund, found that in the first part of 2009, the industries were spending money at nearly a $700,000 a day clip to influence the political process and that the monthly pace of political spending this year has increased by nearly $400,000 over the average spent per month in the previous two years.
--------------------

That's what we are up against.

Anonymous said...

"I wonder why the NAACP, New Black Panther Party, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and all those other black males who were set to lynch those white boys- why didn't they come to this young woman's defense?"

They learned from the Duke incident not to jump to conclusions because women lie about rape.
_________________________

They didn't know women lied about rape before this incident? LOL!!!
Actually they have been accusing white woman of false accusations of rape for a f-ing century!!!!!

Nation of Islam and New Black Panther Party didn't go bolistic not because they "learned not to jump to conclusions". They didn't go bolistic because the (alleged) perpetrators were ALL BLACK. The one and only reason.

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Anonymous said...

Hofstra University has suspended her pending hearings into the matter.

Crystal Mangum wasn't suspended. And when the student newspaper at Duke pointed out that she should have since she violated several codes of ethics of her college the student was called racist. Why is no one complaining that this student was suspended but Crystal wasn't???

uptownsteve said...

Crystal Mangum was a student at North Carolina Central State, not Duke.

And she graduated summa cum laude with a degress in Business Administration on May 7, 2007.

I was at the ceremony cuz my niece was graduating as well.

krystalxlyte said...

The title of the book makes NO sense, and the even more inane and incomprehensible Glenn Beck signing on to it makes it less than credible making it fit to be categorized in between the nursery rhymes and coloring book section in the Bush LIEbrary and nowhere else.

but who said that those Reich wing nuts didn't care for science and inventions and all that brainy edjukahtunal stuff.. LOL!! How is it possible to confine the number of great ideas that changed the world to there only being just 28?


You sure about that Mr. Double U, sir?

and I will just be damned if not one but two of those revolutionizing ideas of the 28 listed would include "The Television" followed by Murdoch taking flight by way of his dorsal webbed wings from Australia to migrate to America to establish FOX news. (eye roll)

Whats next? Glenn Beck's cracky ass on NOVA? I'll be damned.

I think we need to stop blaming the victim.The young hood rat is black.So what?

We know black women tend to be hypersexual and they can't control their sexual urges.


LMAO! Puhleeze. Get fucked already, tired closeted N*gger lover.


How frustrating it must be for you day in and out to sit from 9-5 in your cubicle while the rest of the office earns their living while you fantasize about that Lakeisha walking by with those full glossy lips and grabbing her round toned ass and fondling her full C cups just like the boys from DOOK. Damn if only she had more recessive genes and the good sense to be ashamed of being colored and good looking at the same time, you just may throw caution to the wind and might actually to say 'hi' to her one of these days and if she doesn't roll her eyes or neck at you, you've got your foot in the door to continually harass her until she gives it up! Hell, If you actually did do something illegal who would believe her? The court knows she'll lie in a heartbeat because shes black. (end snark)


We all know you all don't know how to take 'No' for an answer. Killing is like second nature for most of you, though the statistics may go soft on you but we all watch the news and CSI! LOL! the numbers don't lie, especially if you happen to be a subordinate to anyone outside your race too!

Control! Ain't that the ritz callin the saltine a cracka!

Darn that Obama! Every since that jigger has been in office, a white man just can't get away with murder anymore these days..LOL!


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Anonymous said...

hey, FN, even though you are one hate-mongering ignorant racist, this was downright funny:

"link more of my work if I didn't curse so much. (Fuck them)"

Back to business: since you are a born bootlicker you would never criticize Obama. But everyone else is aware that lowlife Obama will impose yet another tax on the poor: the tariff on cheap tires from China.

We're still all meanwhile waiting for that tax in the super rich that lowlife Obama campaigned with. [crickets]

Anonymous said...

who says that steve isn't black? just do a web search:
http://www.google.com/search?q=uptownsteve

click the third result, "UptownSteve Reacts To The News About Ted Kennedy's passing" and you can see his photo... poor steve, he seemed really upset over teddy... it's rough being a natural-born bootlicker, like you and fn are

Anonymous said...

Right UPTOWNSTEVE, I never claimed she went to Duke. I pointed out that she was never taken to task by either law enforcement or her college for what she did, which was a violation of the law and rules of the college. I'm just curious why there was no outrage from the "no justice no peace" people. And no one is pointing out the double standard. Do you think it's cause she was black and her victims were white?

uptownsteve said...

I'm not completely convinced "nothing" happened to Mangum that night.

alicia banks said...

ditto fn!

do not sleep on rippa's great blog
he has a great post today and a great photo of the bf liar

this is tragic
each man charged should sue her
and she should be prosecuted too!

no shock here
as lying fake rape victims are becoming as routine as dl "het" jocks who
prefer gang sex so that they can clandestinely enjoy each other homoerotically and safely ("no homo")...

this is my query:

as tons of kids are being told not to sext

and as sexting is forcing many kids to become lifelong
registered sex offenders for
sending kiddie porn of their own nude/sexing selves....

these bros were freed ONLY because one filmed the consensual group sex on his cell phone!???

SO:
sexting = self-defense = do it!!!???

this entire vulgar and sad saga gives mixed messages about sexting MUCH deeper meaning...

alicia banks said...

fn:

see more on the cell ph etc here:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/18/hofstra.case/index.html


The woman recanted her story Wednesday after authorities told her that part of the incident was recorded on a cell phone video, Rice said. Watch Taveras describe being falsely accused »

"That was when she began to tell the truth," she said.

Race Traitoress said...

@Anonymous 2:37

as a woman you should be angrier than a mild "hmmm"

What a surprise: a "white" man telling me what I should feel.

they are conditioned to treating women like inhumane sex objects.

As are you, as evidenced by your pandering and paternalistic "compliments."

it should piss you off enough to curse their black asses instead cursing me.

There you go again. I cursed you for assuming to speak for me; apparently the irony of your response escapes you. I have no anger toward these young people for their sexual behavior; I make no judgment therein.

btw, I have no problem with lustful. What a silly assumption. Apparently you've pigeonholed me into the "Madonna" slot of your Madonna/Whore dichotomy. Typical.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Right UPTOWNSTEVE, I never claimed she went to Duke. I pointed out that she was never taken to task by either law enforcement or her college for what she did, which was a violation of the law and rules of the college. I'm just curious why there was no outrage from the "no justice no peace" people.

The race hustlas only come out when its white on black.


uptownsteve said...
I'm not completely convinced "nothing" happened to Mangum that night.

Of course your not.

kathy said...

"as a woman you should be angrier than a mild "hmmm". those dumb lustful jackasses didn't bat an eye because they are conditioned to treating women like inhumane sex objects."

hey anyon, you seem to like twisting things around, RT said, "no one batted an eye", YOU inserted "dumb", "lustful", and "jackasses", hmm.

p.s. who conditioned you? lol

MR.R said...

krystalxlyte said...

I think we need to stop blaming the victim.The young hood rat is black.So what?

We know black women tend to be hypersexual and they can't control their sexual urges.

LMAO! Puhleeze. Get fucked already, tired closeted N*gger lover.


How frustrating it must be for you day in and out to sit from 9-5 in your cubicle while the rest of the office earns their living while you fantasize about that Lakeisha walking by with those full glossy lips and grabbing her round toned ass and fondling her full C cups just like the boys from DOOK. Damn if only she had more recessive genes and the good sense to be ashamed of being colored and good looking at the same time, you just may throw caution to the wind and might actually to say 'hi' to her one of these days and if she doesn't roll her eyes or neck at you, you've got your foot in the door to continually harass her until she gives it up! Hell, If you actually did do something illegal who would believe her? The court knows she'll lie in a heartbeat because shes black. (end snark)


I have to admit something.I am a "closeted" negro lover.

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I don't have to do anything illegal to Lakeisha.She will give it up freely and be happy a white man is showing her some love.

Greg Dragon said...

Oh wow Alicia Banks posted something coherent that I actually can read and somewhat learn from. I wonder if hell froze over, or did satan's throne get usurped by a horde of albino firby's?

Btw, dumb question but if a religion has a history of shunning you based on color and associating you with one of the most negative characters in their "holy book", why would you want to join? I know us black folks are the masters of self hate but damn, that blows my mind. Nm I'm off to go eat at Denny's...

kathy said...

Actually, I have read some of her posts on bell hooks, and they are really good.

Anonymous said...

" uptownsteve said...
I'm not completely convinced "nothing" happened to Mangum that night."

And I'm not completely convinced that Susan Smith didn't have a black male accomplice. I'm not completely convinced all those "innocent" black males who were lynched were all that f-ing innocent.
As far as crack ho Mangum is concerned... the sperm of 5 men was found in her. All of black men- hmmm- Jesse Jackson, Jesse Jackson Jr, Al Sharpton, Khalid Abdul Muhammad, and the 5th? Maybe Uptown Steve. Or better yet, maybe they were these 4 young "innocent" Hofstra students!

La♥Incognita said...

"We know black women tend to be hypersexual and they can't control their sexual urges.

I don't have to do anything illegal to Lakeisha.She will give it up freely and be happy a white man is showing her some love.
"

Exhibit A:

To all: This further proves how those white Duke boys more likely had that racist, contemptuous and violent mindset towards black females in the first place. There is no doubt what went down that night, no doubt what those boys expected and therefore demanded by force.

(Sorry you didn't get the big angry reaction that you were hoping for. You have been very fruitful demonstrating first-hand your inherent characteristics).

Anonymous said...

La♥Incognita said...
"We know black women tend to be hypersexual and they can't control their sexual urges.

I don't have to do anything illegal to Lakeisha.She will give it up freely and be happy a white man is showing her some love."

Exhibit A:

To all: This further proves how those white Duke boys more likely had that racist, contemptuous and violent mindset towards black females in the first place. There is no doubt what went down that night, no doubt what those boys expected and therefore demanded by force.

(Sorry you didn't get the big angry reaction that you were hoping for. You have been very fruitful demonstrating first-hand your inherent characteristics


So in your small world the words of 1 represents a entire race?



"There is no doubt what went down that night, no doubt what those boys expected and therefore demanded by force. "

Thats true.Nothing illegal went down that night.No dna evidence,no physical evidence,just many lies and many different stories told by Crystal and her friend.

Those Duke boys told a story that never changed,and they cooperated with the police.

field negro said...

"How frustrating it must be for you day in and out to sit from 9-5 in your cubicle while the rest of the office earns their living while you fantasize about that Lakeisha walking by with those full glossy lips and grabbing her round toned ass and fondling her full C cups just like the boys from DOOK. "

Ouch!

Phil4Real said...

Hey FN,
Have you read this article by Andrew M. Manis?

When Are We Going to Get Over It?

http://www.aapci.org/forum/showthread.php?p=31322

Manis is a professor at Macon State College in Georgia. He's a white guy who appears to be sick and tired of whites using Obama to start some sort of modern day Rosewood.

Shady_Grady said...

Joseph Smith claimed to have a revelation from the angel (ahem) MORONi who told Joseph where to find the golden plates. These golden plates would be the basis for the Book of Mormon and fortunately for Smith, were buried conveniently close to his home. Of course Smith had to return the golden plates to MORONi so no one else got to see them...

Sounds like Scientology.

Race Traitoress said...

@Greg Dragon

Btw, dumb question but if a religion has a history of shunning you based on color and associating you with one of the most negative characters in their "holy book", why would you want to join? I know us black folks are the masters of self hate but damn, that blows my mind. Nm I'm off to go eat at Denny's...

Good question. Ask Eldridge Cleaver, Thurl Bailey or Gladys Knight.

But seriously, one of the biggest draws the Mormons have is the concept that families will be together in the afterlife. I think many people find this idea particularly comforting. (Not me--lolz.)

Anonymous said...

RT "What a surprise: a "white" man telling me what I should feel."

I would be surprised too, if I were White, but I am not. Why would you think so?

Anonymous said...

RT "But seriously, one of the biggest draws the Mormons have is the concept that families will be together in the afterlife. I think many people find this idea particularly comforting."

All religions speak of the afterlife. It IS very comforting. Considering you don't believe in the afterlife I guess once you are dead you are dead, right?

Anonymous said...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/twisted_motive_behind_rape_story_niSXmOMgjcr2RTJiRkacXJ


a picture of the accuser.
now that we know she's black there will be few snarky comments (unlike if she was white)
still 5 guys did her? ewwwwwwwwwww

Race Traitoress said...

@Anonymous 1:21

RT "What a surprise: a "white" man telling me what I should feel."

I would be surprised too, if I were White, but I am not. Why would you think so?


Perhaps because you claimed to know how "whites" feel about their children being around Black children. Perhaps because you wear the mantle of male supremacy so comfortably. Perhaps I should have said "What a surprise: an arrogant, sexist man telling me what I should feel." Better?

@Anonymous 1:25

All religions speak of the afterlife. It IS very comforting. Considering you don't believe in the afterlife I guess once you are dead you are dead, right?

How do you know I don't believe in the afterlife? The point I was trying to make, which you either missed or ignored, was that Mormons believe that families remain intact in Heaven. I know of no other religion that makes this assertion, which, IMO, has some serious logistical problems. Plus, an eternal family reunion doesn't sound like my idea of paradise.

For the record, regarding the concept of Heaven or an afterlife. . .I'm not convinced based on the evidence so far. However, if I find out differently once I'm dead, I'll be delighted, I'm sure.

field negro said...

"How do you know I don't believe in the afterlife? The point I was trying to make, which you either missed or ignored, was that Mormons believe that families remain intact in Heaven. I know of no other religion that makes this assertion, which, IMO, has some serious logistical problems. Plus, an eternal family reunion doesn't sound like my idea of paradise."

RT, that was classic.

"a picture of the accuser.
now that we know she's black there will be few snarky comments (unlike if she was white)
still 5 guys did her? ewwwwwwwwwww"

Anon, I think most of the folks reading this blog knew that she was black all along.

Anonymous said...

RT, "I know of no other religion that makes this assertion, which, IMO, has some serious logistical problems. Plus, an eternal family reunion doesn't sound like my idea of paradise."

You cannot think in terms of earthly logistics, that is absurd. Everything is possible with God. However, you must have faith which is way beyond the earthly self-centered ego. It is clear your 'doubt' is far more powerful than your faith. That's too bad.

@RT "However, if I find out differently once I'm dead, I'll be delighted, I'm sure."

Maybe you will be delighted, and maybe you won't. It depends on your faith and what you have done here on earth. According to all religions, your motives/intentions throughout your life are very important. For instance, are you committed to truth and justice or are you just committed to a group of people, right or wrong? Justice and Truth has no color and how you live your answers to those questions will determine very different outcomes and how you see life. Good luck.

Race Traitoress said...

@Anonymous 9:43

According to all religions, your motives/intentions throughout your life are very important.

Religion doesn't have a monopoly on this, of course. As Einstein asserted, "A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."

"For instance, are you committed to truth and justice or are you just committed to a group of people, right or wrong? Justice and Truth has no color"

"Treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity." - Noel Ignatiev.

Anonymous said...

RT-"Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."

You seem to be full of quotes by others. What about your own direct experience to validate Einstein?

Quoting Einstein's 'idealism' and 'hope' for man doesn't change the "fact" that "man IS in a poor way" because his "ethical and moral" behavior, 'sympathy, education, and social ties' are dysfunctional and sorely lacking. American society and rampart racism accelerating across America like wildfire is a fine example that mocks your quote.

In addition, America has the greatest penal and prison system in the world to keep the evil ones in check. America represents just how 'poor in spirit' man is. Re: to your quote of Einstein, the system IS based on man's effort in America to "restrain based on fear of punishment" without any hope of reward. That is what Einstein was trying to convey. But you would have to know about his life and philosophy to know. Finding one of his quotes just to throw something out, doesn't cut it.

Again, Einstein was speaking about what man "should" be, not who he "actually" is. Here's another Einstein quote for you to reflect on:

"I want to know God's thoughts, the rest are just details."

Race Traitoress said...

@Anonymous 6:46

You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension, not to mention a chip on your shoulder.

Let me break it down.

Your point: Religions profess belief in an afterlife/heaven, and of the importance of moral behavior during one's life.

I agree, they do. Religions do that. I agree.

My point: One does not have to be religious to exhibit moral and ethical behavior. I quoted Einstein because he said it better than I.

What's your beef, anyway? I've not made any statements of disrespect toward Mormonism or Christianity as a whole. I agree that racism is rampant, and in fact hold that racism is a product of twisted "white" delusions of superiority.

You seem to be full of quotes by others. What about your own direct experience to validate Einstein?

My "direct experience" consists of the fact that I am a moral and ethical, though not religious, person.

And I'm not so arrogant as to not realize that sometimes someone else says what I'm trying to convey in a more elegant manner.

You're arguing with points I've never made. And other than the apparent fact that you are a person of faith, and I'm not, I don't even see where we disagree substantially.

Whatev.

Anonymous said...

RT you sound quite angry. You don't handle conflict so well, do you? And what makes you think I am a religious person? First, you assumed that I was White. Now you are assuming that I am a person of faith. But I do agree with some of your premises if that eases your stress any.

As far as your opinion of my problematic reading comprehension and my arrogance, that's YOUR opinion and that is what YOU see. You might be right- but not everyone can be as bright as you think you are.

That's just the way life works: no two human beings are the same and the human race is full varying intelligence and consciousness.

However, it's nothing to get your backsides out of whack because a person like myself doesn't match your intelligence or doesn't behave according to your personal way of life. I recommend you discuss this matter with the Creator and tell HIM you don't like some of HIS works.

As far as you accusing me of being "arrogant", you might want to take a good look in the mirror at yourself. Imho, what you see in me, you still have yet to recognize in yourself.

"We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." Anis Nin

Race Traitoress said...

lolz @Anonymous 9:52

Y'all Anons are the same guy? Heh--that's funny. My bad.

Gotta admit, you were pulling my chain there a little bit. I thought you were just jonesin' for a fight, which bewildered me.

But when you wrote this:

And what makes you think I am a religious person? First, you assumed that I was White. Now you are assuming that I am a person of faith.

and then, this:

I recommend you discuss this matter with the Creator and tell HIM you don't like some of HIS works.

I knew you were just funnin' with me. Good one.

Peace out---

Anonymous said...

RT, Your laughter is your profound denial of the truth. Until you have the courage to honestly look at yourself in the mirror ending your comment with "peace" IS funny.

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