Thursday, March 05, 2015

"There is an evil in this town..."

"The air of Southside is foul-smelling and thick, filled with fumes from an oil refinery and diesel smoke from a train yard, with talk of riot and recrimination, and with angry questions: Why is Tarika Wilson dead? Why did the police shoot her baby?

“This thing just stinks to high heaven, and the police know it,” said Jason Upthegrove, president of the Lima chapter of the N.A.A.C.P. “We’re not asking for answers anymore. We’re demanding them.”

Some facts are known. A SWAT team arrived at Ms. Wilson’s rented house in the Southside neighborhood early in the evening of Jan. 4 to arrest her companion, Anthony Terry, on suspicion of drug dealing, said Greg Garlock, Lima’s police chief. Officers bashed in the front door and entered with guns drawn, said neighbors who saw the raid.

Moments later, the police opened fire, killing Ms. Wilson, 26, and wounding her 14-month-old son, Sincere, Chief Garlock said. One officer involved in the raid, Sgt. Joseph Chavalia, a 31-year veteran, has been placed on paid administrative leave.

Beyond these scant certainties, there is mostly rumor and rage. The police refuse to give any account of the raid, pending an investigation by the Ohio attorney general.

Black people in Lima, from the poorest citizens to religious and business leaders, complain that rogue police officers regularly stop them without cause, point guns in their faces, curse them and physically abuse them. They say the shooting of Ms. Wilson is only the latest example of a long-running pattern of a few white police officers treating African-Americans as people to be feared.

There is an evil in this town,” said C. M. Manley, 68, pastor of New Morning Star Missionary Baptist Church. “The police harass me. They harass my family. But they know that if something happens to me, people will burn down this town.”

Internal investigations have uncovered no evidence of police misconduct, Chief Garlock said. Still, local officials recognize that the perception of systemic racism has opened a wide chasm.
“The situation is very tense,” Mayor David J. Berger said. “Serious threats have been made. People are starting to carry weapons to protect themselves.”

Surrounded by farm country known for its German Catholic roots and conservative politics, Lima is the only city in the immediate area with a significant African-American population. Black families, including Mr. Manley’s, came to Lima in the 1940s and ’50s for jobs at what is now the Husky Energy Lima Refinery and other factories along the city’s southern border. Blacks make up 27 percent of the city’s 38,000 people, Mr. Berger said.

Many blacks still live downwind from the refinery. Many whites on the police force commute from nearby farm towns, where a black face is about as common as a twisty road. Of Lima’s 77 police officers, two are African-American.

“If I have any frustration when I retire, it’ll be that I wasn’t able to bring more racial balance to the police force,” said Chief Garlock, who joined the force in 1971 and has been chief for 11 years." [Source]

Indeed this young lady's life seemed to be a sad and tragic one. I have seen many Tarika Wilsons  here in Philly. But she did not deserve to die this way.

And meanwhile in New York.

"Prosecutors are dropping charges against 17-year-old Enrique Del Rosario related to assaulting a police officer after video contradicted their claims.

The incident took place at Brooklyn’s Puerto Rican Day parade on June 8. Dennis Flores, founder of the neighborhood police watchdog group El Grito De Sunset Park said police descended on the revelers in the evening, something that’s become expected. “We’ve been documenting this every year,” Flores told ThinkProgress. “The neighborhood gets flooded with police officers. Young kids are marching, waving flags, and cops are corraling them, pushing them around, like it’s a nuisance to have them out celebrating their culture.”

Flores’ group had several activists taping the police that day, a tactic that activists across the country have found useful for monitoring police. So they were able to capture Rosario’s arrest from multiple angles, a fact that would be crucial for proving his innocence. Photos and recordings can often mean the difference between conviction and exoneration.
Rosario wasn’t afilliated with El Grito, but he also happened to be filming when an officer shoved the woman standing next to him. In fact, Flores said that’s why he was targeted. Rosario’s lawyer Rebecca Heinegg said several officers then attacked Rosario, slamming him against the gate of a closed store and beating him with batons. “Basically, my client was a victim of a gang assault by the 72nd Precinct,” Heinegg told Max Jaeger for The Brooklyn Paper.

Once the attack started, Flores said, police began pushing people back and macing them to keep onlookers and cameras from seeing what was going on. Flores said that the injury police blamed Rosario for was caused by another cop. “This officer swung his nightstick and missed, hit another police officer across the head,” Flores said.

grand jury decided not to prosecute Rosario for assaulting a cop in September, but he continued to face charges for resisting arrest and larceny until the District Attorney’s office offered to drop all charges as long as he stays clear of the law for six months.

The charges proved to be an economic burden to Rosario’s family, even though they were dropped. Rosario and his mother Wendy Tabarez had to attend eight court dates since he was beaten and arrested, costing wages and time off lost. For working people, an arrest can come at a high price, even if they are eventually found innocent.

Rosario’s camera was never recovered, and footage from NYPD police videographers seems to have disappeared, arousing Flores’ suspicion. “It’s not like his camera was just left on the street. They took it, and it never showed up in evidence.” Both Flores and Heinegg have tried to obtain NYPD footage of the events, but have been told it can’t be located." [Source]

Look, police officers have a tough job. (One lost his life today here on the mean streets of Philly. RIP.) But at some point political leaders and people with influence in underserved communities are going to have to step up and acknowledge that we have a problem. And, more importantly, they are going to have to do something about it.

We cannot allow anymore Ferguson type situations to fester in small cities like Lima, Ohio, or in large cities like New York.


 

48 comments:

Josh said...

Let's see if I can make PC make a face like he's passing a kidney stone.

Fry these motherfuckers! It's one thing to be a patrolman who is attacked; it's another thing entirely to bust up into someone's home, guns drawn, and shooting anything that moves. That isn't police work; that is a government-sanctioned assassination squad.

Are they the fucking police or the Tonton macoute?

But for real:

"But they know that if something happens to me, people will burn down this town.”

Serious question: Why do people who feel slighted by the police never, ever go after the fucking police!? They always burn down fucking private businesses owned by a dude just getting by, or a family that's deep in debt, or a minority who struggled to get that position. It's always burning and rioting and looting and "We're mad as hell..." Okay. Be mad. But be mad at the motherfuckers you should be mad at, not the damn guy in his little store in the strip mall.

Angry mobs are the most unorganized force of stupidity in world history. Be mad at the police. Raid the fucking precinct. Burn the patrol cars. Hit the shooter with a brick. But, no, the dumb-fucks'll get angry, smash and steal from ordinary people, and the end result is a community that's even less prosperous because anyone with enough intelligence and drive to start a business says, "I better get the fuck out of here. This isn't a community; it's a jungle."

Police raids in general have gone on long enough. It's bad enough that the government in a supposed "free" society already strictly enforces moronic drug laws and seeks to regulate what adults can and cannot put into their bodies. It's fucking totalitarian, not democratic. But to think police have free reign to just bust up into your house on spec -- well, that's beyond stupid. Being American should afford you, at the very least, the right to not have your home burst into by an armed squad of assassins.

Are they hunting fucking pirates here? Are the Nazis making a comeback and putting Jews in ovens? Fuck no. Somebody might have above the allotted number of prescription medications, or somebody mighta sold an 8-ball. Get the tanks ready, men. Get the infrared and night vision and most lethal weapons we own. Anything moves, dog, kid or otherwise, put it down!

Hey, here's a novel idea for our pussified police: Since you already have the upper hand kicking in someone's door with great numbers, by surprise, in the middle of the night, try using non-lethal weapons like stun guns when you enter. You don't need M16s to put down children and housewives, you maniacal motherfuckers.

Bill said...


Josh said...
Serious question: Why do people who feel slighted by the police never, ever go after the fucking police!?


It is much safer to burn a business than a police station.

The store owner might have a gun.

The police has almost unlimited resources in both personnel and weapons.

Anonymous said...

Dear Josh, I really don't know what to say after your in-depth rational logical comment. I agree with everything.

Of course, I've agreed with everything you have said in the past. You are a very stand up guy. You see, I'm one of those Negroes like Rodney King...I want to get along with Whites, not badger them like PC or Yisheng does. There's no redeeming benefit in that.

I swear, every time PC or Yisheng posts on FN I cringe. I will never understand why Field doesn't do the right thing and kick their black asses off of FN. They are a disgrace to the black race.

Josh, may you and your people live long healthy fruitful lives without being hassled by my folks.

PilotX said...

America is the greatest country in the history of countries! American exceptionalism! Let's stop any history class that does not teach how great America is because there is nothing else to know about this country. There are no problems here and never forget that! USA USA USA USA USA USA!

Carson/Cain '16

Lt. Commander Johnson said...

I suppose I should puke now....

Faith_and_Fairness said...

Always greatly disturbing to hear of another loss of life, whether civilians or member of law enforcement.

And if any of the fields are viewers of the ABC drama, "Scandal," I'm sure one can agree tonight's episode was too profound for words in terms of the way it portrayed communities of color impacted by rogue officers while also shedding light on the reasons many officers spiral out of control emotionally and professionally.

At the end of the day, every community along with the good men and women who put their lives on the line are in need of prayerful support, healing and understanding.

I also concur with Anon regarding Josh's insightful perspective. Not to mention, Josh, oftens sees the big picture more than he's given credit.

Anonymous said...

"Not to mention, Josh, oftens sees the big picture more than he's given credit."

When he's not juggling plums.

Anonymous said...

"I suppose I should puke now...."

That's what your girlfriend says when you take off your clothes.

Anonymous said...

"You don't need M16s to put down children and housewives, you maniacal motherfuckers."

Wayne LaPierre might disagree with that analysis.

Faith_and_Fairness said...

Juggling plums, huh?? Then add the peaches and oranges, too :-)

Anonymous said...

"Hey, here's a novel idea for our pussified police: Since you already have the upper hand kicking in someone's door with great numbers, by surprise, in the middle of the night, try using non-lethal weapons like stun guns when you enter. You don't need M16s to put down children and housewives, you maniacal motherfuckers."

LOL Good luck with that suggestion, Josh.

The entry team in this case, as in a great many cases, is coming after someone they believe to be a drug dealer. Just an FYI: Drug dealers in the U.S. do not typically employ non-lethal weapons, so don't expect the cops to show up with a can of pepper spray. It ain't gonna happen any time soon.

Here are some actual viable suggestions to solve the problem:

1) Cops should learn only to fire at people who genuinely constitute threats, not indiscriminately at anything that moves. In other words, they should be decent at their fucking jobs.

2) The public should be disarmed so that cops don't have to be heavily armed in order to keep up with heavily armed criminals. Countries like the UK, where all the civilians aren't armed, don't have to have most of their cops equipped as if they were a occupying military force.

3) We should end the War on Drugs. That would honestly eliminate much of the need for cops to kick in doors in the first place, as well as not financially incentivizing a huge amount of gang violence. Countries like Portugal have had better success with "harm reduction" programs that don't produce the warlike mayhem of drug prohibition.

I don't expect any of these things to happen immediately, because the U.S. is stubbornly resistant to change, even when the solutions to problems are blatantly obvious.

Josh said...

I've never been a drug dealer, @Anon #502,482, so I couldn't say. But I highly doubt drug dealers are Ezio from Assassin's Creed. They don't have Eagle Sense, nor are they sleeping with their hair-trigger Uzis affixed to their hands.

This is why police perform raids and not just door knocks. They gain the element of surprise. They gain numbers. They gain tactical advantage by going when people are either asleep or just not in the daytime zone.

I don't understand how a hostage situation in a bank can go down without an innocent person being killed, yet bozos cannot perform a raid on a low-level drug dealer without shooting up his wife and a baby. Dogs are usually their favorite target. You know, 'cause those thick-ass SWAT uniforms can resist bullets and knife wounds, but they can't stop the canines of a beagle from inflicting grievous bodily harm.

With such a tactical advantage, a stun gun or beanbags can easily incapacitate a real-gun-wielding lunatic who's trying to go Tony Montana on everyone.

My suggestioN:

1) Legalize drugs. Government has no business telling adults what they can and cannot put into their bodies. They have no problem allowing for expensive-ass medication from Big Pharma. But they'll outright ban things like coke and heroine and potential life-saving drugs from overseas that our inept government won't even test much less pass as safe.

American government has too long been too hypocritical. They gotta stop pretending to be Puritans. They never were. They were slavers, then land thieves, then warmongers, all the while being usurpers. They have never been the Puritans that they try to force everyone else into being. Enough is e-fucking-nough. Legalize it all and let's start using "freedom" as a word that means something instead of a synonym for big government micromanagement and central planning.

And if all the liberal Democrats 'round here had their way, things would only get exponentially worse. They think it would usher in change like less racism and fewer instances like these, but they would only increase. For as big as Republican government is, Democratic government towers over it like Shaq over Spud Webb.

Anonymous said...

"Hey, here's a novel idea for our pussified police: Since you already have the upper hand kicking in someone's door with great numbers, by surprise, in the middle of the night, try using non-lethal weapons like stun guns when you enter. You don't need M16s to put down children and housewives, you maniacal motherfuckers."

Easy Josh. If by chance the cops read your comment, they might come a-kicking in your door...shooting first and asking questions later.

I'd hate for that to happen. What would FN do? I mean, you and Field's posts are now the main attraction here.

Does anybody know what happened to BIB and Lilac and FP? Man, Negroes are dropping like flies on this blog.

I wonder if Field has done any research why folks leave his blog? Or why folks come to his blog? Even Anon Inc has been leaving, and coming and going. There is something really wrong going on here.

I think I know the answer: Brother Field, you need Jesus.

PoopAvenger said...

Lt. Commander Johnson doesn't have a girlfriend. He is just a lonely pathetic loser who jerks off to kiddie porn.

Josh said...

I don't know about people leaving, but I found Field's blog through Malcolm, owner--perhaps former--of Diversity Ink, and I found him through some right-wing blog in the comments section.

But I have noticed that my posts attract a lot of attention. There's a couple of people who actually attempt to get at me with what I say; everyone else just has a default "Fuck you, Josh, you faggot" way of going about their business.

They care more what I say on a random blog than the shit that goes in their own communities. My comments are evidently oppressing them. Up the reparations. Josh owes 75 acres and a pack of wild burros to every butthurt black blogger to read my comments and damn near suicide. I mean, apparently that's what goes on 'round here; that's what I glean: Folks here are so inherently and viscerally emotional that their personal feelings trump the entire fucking universe's worth.

"It matters because I feel it. It's true because muh feels!"

Muh feels! Muh oppression! Muh struggle!

Anonymous said...

"This is why police perform raids and not just door knocks. They gain the element of surprise. They gain numbers. They gain tactical advantage by going when people are either asleep or just not in the daytime zone."

No, that's not why cops do no-knock raids. The cops would have a better tactical advantage, and less risk of killing innocent people, if they just waited for the suspect to leave his house and busted him outside, assuming all they wanted to do was arrest him.

The reason they are smashing into his house is because they aren't after the drug dealer at this point. They're after the drugs and other evidence they believe he's got squirreled away inside the house.

And the motivation behind the battering rams and flash-bang grenades in the dead of night is that if they knocked politely on the front door, all of the evidence might get flushed down the toilet or tossed in the fireplace before they even got inside to collect it.

There's plenty of logic behind the War on Drugs. It's a real war, almost, with real military tactics.

Lt. Commander Johnson said...

Wow, Anonymous.

You nailed me! I'm stoopernegrofied.

You are an un-educated dick.

Get down-lo, bro. I sorta like blows from you bros, you are cheap, as to compared to the whites girls.

Limpbaugh said...

I saw that Jesse Ventura is thinking about running for president and I went and looked at his Facebook page. It was all about civil rights, Darren Wilson getting away with murder, cops having a free pass to kill black people, etc. It had some stuff about women's rights. He might ask Cynthia McKinney to run as his VP candidate and he praised her votes against wars. Peace activists would like him too. I like him because he is for 9/11 truth. When the government tells us burning carpet melted all 84 steel beams of a skyscraper at the same time and the media covers it up for them, we have big problems. I watched Andrea Mitchell interview Bernie Sanders the other day. During the few minutes I watched, Sanders said he didn't know if AIPAC has too much influence over congress or not, and he called the Iraq War a blunder. It wasn't a blunder, it was on purpose. Democrats can't even charge Dick Cheney. Democrats are wimps and Republicans are stupid.

Joder La Resistencia said...

Siting on someone's Whopper JR. while black.......


3 arrested for hamburger beat down


http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/crime/2015/03/04/hamburger-beating-video-arrests/24369751/

I'm sure field will be all over this latest injustice blahs face...

Joder La Resistencia said...

The typical knee-jerk reaction of the left is to blame cops and whitey.

They preach diversity and scream false slogans.

Has diversity ever made a police department mo better?


Looking at Detroit, New Orleans, Miami and many other cities one could argue diversity has made police departments worse.


The deeper issue that needs to be looked at is why cities with the largest black populations are the most violent places to be on earth?

I can't help but notice most of the officials in Ferguson are Democrats. In fact, most cities that have the worst police corruption and race relations are controlled by Democrats.


In 2016 at least 90% of blacks will vote democrat no matter who the Democrat is or what they stand for.



Long has blacks continue to vote for the people who are most responsible for their plight in life, why should anyone non-black care?

Anonymous said...

Josh said, "They care more what I say on a random blog than the shit that goes in their own communities. My comments are evidently oppressing them. Up the reparations. Josh owes 75 acres and a pack of wild burros to every butthurt black blogger to read my comments and damn near suicide. I mean, apparently that's what goes on 'round here; that's what I glean: Folks here are so inherently and viscerally emotional that their personal feelings trump the entire fucking universe's worth."


Oh my! Josh you have struck the "elephant" in the living room of the black community. You must have had some experience with the bros and sistas to know these hidden truths.

You are right. Blacks are emotional, no question about it. Did you expect us to be less emotional than Whites, given our history in America?

Look, we are carrying centuries of repressed and suppressed emotions that squirts out whenever a white person such as yourself lacks empathy with our side of experiential reality.

But that's been the problem with racism. Whites lack the experience of being discriminated against because of the color of their skin. Blacks come from a long lineage of generations who have been discriminated against because of the color of their skin.

Simply put: The perpetrators and supporters of racism don't feel what the pain of those who are hurt by Whites. There just isn't any empathy or justice coming from Whites such as yourself, unless you are an exceptional white person, which you are not.

You are here to enlighten us. However, we have so much anger and mistrust pent up inside that we can't hear your reproaches. And you can't hear ours.

The amazing thing is those in power think they are right and those not in power think they are right. Probably both are wrong because no one can see the big picture when it comes to being human.

No one asks what is it to be human? Well, it probably has nothing to do with being White, Black or Brown.


3:34 AM
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Anonymous said...

"Has diversity ever made a police department mo better?"

No, and that is a fact. In fact, some of the worst cops are Black and they mistreat Blacks worse than White cops.

Why is that? Maybe SAP2 or Field can answer that?

Bill said...


Click it or ticket

Seatbelt usage is chronically lower among black drivers. [3] If a law enforcement agency aggressively enforces seatbelt violations, police will stop more black drivers.
...
A study in Cincinnati found that black drivers had longer stops and higher search rates than white drivers. However, when the researchers matched stops involving black drivers with similarly situated white drivers, those stopped at the same time, place, and context (reason for the stop, validity of the driver's license, etc.), they found no differences. Their conclusion was that differences in the time, place, and context of the stops were the cause of the longer stops and higher search rates

http://www.nij.gov/topics/law-enforcement/legitimacy/Pages/traffic-stops.aspx

Bill said...


I remember the old days...

Obama stops wearing American flag pin
Presidential candidate says he will show patriotism by expressing his ideas

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21138728/ns/politics-decision_08/t/obama-stops-wearing-american-flag-pin/#.VPnWE-HCbSs


So when Obama is calling out Netanyah Obama puts on a flag lapel on.

https://twitter.com/MotherJones/status/573154731658518528


There must be a good reason Obama has decided to show his patriotism by wearing a flag.

Good reason = Internal dumbocrat polling

Bill said...


The fact the "hands up don't shoot" lie made its way to the White House and the global stage (sports, award shows, etc.) shows how powerful the dumbocrat media is when pushing a fake meme.


“It remains not only valid — but essential — to question how such a strong alternative version of events was able to take hold so swiftly, and be accepted so readily,” Mr. Holder said Wednesday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/06/us/in-ferguson-both-sides-see-vindication-in-justice-department-reports.html

Bill said...


I remember the old days when dumbocrats mocked trump for saying the same thing.

Senator Bernie Sanders, the self-identified socialist from Vermont
(13:40)
Because when you see in the papers that official is 5.8%. I trust that you all understand that is different than real unemployment.

Real unemployment, government figures, excludes those people who have given up looking for work and those people who are working part-time when they want to work full-time. If you add those numbers together government statistics tell you that real unemployment in America is over 11%. Youth unemployment, which we never talk about, is 18%. African-american youth unemployment is close to 30%.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DKc98DaMHU#t=860


Even socialists can see the real unemployment truth.

Anonymous said...

""Indeed this young lady's life seemed to be a sad and tragic one."

Yep, living with drug dealers is hazardous to your well-being.

Her bad.

Next.

Bill said...


I remember the old days when Sen. Bob Menendez was outraged at Obama and his Cuba policy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA8qwgNUqzk


Feds prepare criminal corruption charges against Senator Bob Menendez
...
he used his Senate office to push the business interests of a Democratic donor and friend in exchange for gifts.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/06/politics/robert-menendez-criminal-corruption-charges-planned/


As if he is the only politician of either party to use his position to help donors, friends and family.

There must be a good reason Eric Holder wants to make an example of Menendez.

Josh said...

"You must have had some experience with the bros and sistas to know these hidden truths."

I think there might have been 4 other white people where I grew up, if you count the family that lived around the block.

"Look, we are carrying centuries of repressed and suppressed emotions that squirts out whenever a white person such as yourself lacks empathy with our side of experiential reality."

This is where we'll differ entirely. I'll go ahead here and assume that you're in your 30s? Maybe 40s? Even if that's off, it's not off but by a couple of decades. The fact of the matter is that a person is not born with memories of their ancestors. We live in real life, not a video game by Ubisoft. DNA does not carry with it those types of memories. So, if you want to make the argument that you, in your life, have experienced racism and oppression and have repressed it, I'm in no position to argue with you. But if you want to say you're carrying around your ancestors' burden, I'm going to have to call BS on that one.

I know racism exists in America today. I'm not one of those. I know there are some areas where blacks are really lagging behind. But speaking about black folks living today, none were ever whipped or sold or enslaved; very few are still left from Jim Crow. America is not an ideal place, but to say that all blacks share in common the same repression is to flatly assert that all blacks are intrinsically linked like Star Trek's Borg through DNA.

Blacks today know what it was like to be blacks of centuries ago because they're black? Don't question it. In fact, teach it to your children. "You were a slave. Whites owned you."

"But, mama, I'm 9." "Don't matter, honey; you are Kunta."

In many respects, this is perfectly understandable. As it pertains to advancement and individuality today, however, it's an impediment.

"There just isn't any empathy or justice coming from Whites such as yourself, unless you are an exceptional white person, which you are not."

I'm not an exceptional person. I'm just a person. A person who will not apologize for things I did not do. I was born in 1980. I came up around a black population. My Irish ancestors were slaves of the English. I didn't have anything to do with keeping slaves, segregating anyone, stealing land, etc, nor will I apologize for it. I am not sorry. I will not be shamed because of MY skin color to treat you like a victim because of YOUR skin color.

Take it how you will, but your skin color doesn't fucking matter to me whatsoever. What your great grandfather endured doesn't matter to me at all. I don't think about it. I sleep like a baby. Now, you yourself, on the other hand -- that's a different story. And I will strive to judge you as a person based on your merit as a person.

If you have a problem with that and would rather I judge you a victim because you're black, go find an upper-class white kid at university willing to congratulate you for being born black. I ain't the one. If that makes me evil or whatever else, so be it.

You get no empathy from me. As it stands, your life is objectively easier and freer than a slave's life.

Again, that doesn't mean things are all gravy in America. It doesn't mean racism doesn't exist. But it does mean you are not the same as those who came before you, by any standard: The imagination of Verne or a fever dream. You are not those people.

Anonymous said...

Yeesus Crize! Field have u heard how allegedly Fox has hired a member of the King family as a contributor?

They're saying it has to be the bitter one that was left out of the will :)

Omaigah!!!

The Truth will set you free said...

"Field have u heard how allegedly Fox has hired a member of the King family as a contributor?"

Real Field Negroes know conservatism offers them lives as individuals who are judged by the content of their character.

House Negroes still live on the democrat plantation where the color of their skin is of primary importance.

The world is changing, Lilac. Don't be a prisoner of the past like Field.

field negro said...

Those who forget their history are destined to repeat it.

Yīshēng said...

OMG is right PR!!!

But so NOT surprising!!

PilotX said...

Conservatism offers what? Racism and the southern strategy. Conservatives have always fought civil rights tooth and nail.
Is it Alveda King? AD's daughter?

Josh giggles like a girl said...

"Folks here are so inherently and viscerally emotional that their personal feelings trump the entire fucking universe's worth."

So says the biggest crybaby on the internet.

Josh is stupid said...

"You get no empathy from me. As it stands, your life is objectively easier and freer than a slave's life."

And thus is the whole of Josh's argument, since you are not being beaten or enslaved things are hunky dory.

"very few are still left from Jim Crow."

Josh is a very dumb boy. There are MANY still around that experienced james crow. I guess we see the kind of lack of intellect we're dealing with here. His dumb ass thinks james crow laws ended sometime in the 1800's.

Josh said...

Josh wrote: "I know racism exists in America today. I'm not one of those...Again, that doesn't mean things are all gravy in America. It doesn't mean racism doesn't exist."

A moron Anon #45,412 wrote: "And thus is the whole of Josh's argument, since you are not being beaten or enslaved things are hunky dory."

That's really the whole of my "argument," you fucking moron, really? That things are "hunky dory" just because blacks today aren't slaves?

What I can't understand is that you actually even fucking pretended to read this one, but betray that by quote-mining me when the correct fucking text is literally one paragraph away.

How fucking stupid a people do you trolls plan on being in the pursuit of running me down?

You're all 0'fer to this point. Just stick with what you've been doing: Flat insults. Pretending you want to speak about what I actually write doesn't work out well for you dishonest cunts around here.

You might get Yisheng to buy it without question, probably even Field, but the facts are in literal black and white.

You folks are just like creationists and it never ceases to amaze me how idiotic and dishonest one person can be and still feel comfortable showing up here.

Anonymous said...

If its so bad and so hateful there is an option that you can exercise you know. Usually when I find myself in a situation or a place I don't like......I leave. It's really as simple as that.

Of course they don't give out EBT and SNAP in Africa do they? Are you a masochist? Do you enjoy living somewhere that (in your mind ) is so terrible? Just go home back to Africa, I'm sure it's all lollipops and rainbows in the majority black countries there. Of course if black people did that they wouldn't be able to blame whites for all their problems now would they?

Anonymous said...

They probably went the way of most shills. When confronted with rational fact based arguments they disappear into the net. The site is better off without them.

Anonymous said...

That's typical left wing/prog ideology. It's all about the emotions, facts don't matter it's how it makes someone feel.

Anonymous said...

Truth.

McJosh said...

Go back to your pub, pattie. You're drunk.

Joshua is annoying said...

"You folks are just like creationists and it never ceases to amaze me how idiotic and dishonest one person can be and still feel comfortable showing up here."

Says Josh the dumbest poster ever. He must not have many mirrors in his house.

Bullshit detector said...

"That's typical left wing/prog ideology. It's all about the emotions, facts don't matter it's how it makes someone feel."

unlike the right who think Reagan was a saint because he made them feel good about 'merica or elected W. because they could drink a beer with them or ending AP History because it doesn't only include the "good" parts of 'merican history or wanting to include creationism in science........yeah, the right is sooooooo intellectual.

Anonymous said...

Field that article is years old, I don't know if you noticed

Unknown said...

Did the autopsy confirm that she was hip-hopped on drugs? What are you not telling us?

2coolj said...

Black life matter in this one horse town, Finally Black people are Mail carrier's, that should be a class action lawsuit. All other Government jobs including the Tank plant. We need someone to make sure we are represented by the numbers of minorities of this population. Who is supposed to police this? NAACP.

2coolj said...

Black life matter in this one horse town, Finally Black people are Mail carrier's, that should be a class action lawsuit. All other Government jobs including the Tank plant. We need someone to make sure we are represented by the numbers of minorities of this population. Who is supposed to police this? NAACP.