Thursday, September 06, 2018

When white nationalism becomes a political ideology.

TWEET METhe following essay was written over a year ago for Slate online by Jamelle Bouie. 

I believe that given all that has been going on of late, it is a good time to post it.

"Before the election, when Donald Trump was still just an unlikely presidential nominee, a conservative under the pseudonym “Publius Decius Mus,” wrote a remarkable essay in support of Trump. The pseudonym alone gave a glimpse into the writer’s thinking. The real-life Decius was a Roman consul who sacrificed himself to the gods for the sake of his embattled army. And in the same way, our internet Decius called on conservatives to embrace Trump—to back the vulgarian who mocked their ideals—for the sake of saving the country as they knew it. “The ceaseless importation of Third World foreigners with no tradition of, taste for, or experience in liberty means that the electorate grows more left, more Democratic, less Republican, less republican, and less traditionally American with every cycle,” he wrote, hailing the real estate mogul as the only figure who understood the stakes, who would beat back these “foreigners” and preserve America’s democratic tradition as Decius saw it. Not a tradition of pluralism, but one of exclusion, in which white Americans stand as the only legitimate players in political life. A dictatorship of the herrenvolk.

“Decius”—since revealed as Michael Anton, a former George W. Bush administration speechwriter—now works for President Trump. And he isn’t the only figure in the Trump circle who holds these views. Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions, his former aide Stephen Miller, and right-wing media mogul Stephen Bannon occupy prominent positions in the present administration. Like Anton, they hold deep antagonism to immigrants and immigration, opposition to their equality within American society, and nostalgia for a time when prosperity was the province of the native-born and a select few “assimilated” immigrants. But these aren’t just ideologues with jobs in a friendly administration. They are the architects of Trump’s policy, the executors of a frighteningly coherent political ideology.

What is that ideology? Most Americans think of “racism” in individualized terms. To call someone a “racist,” then, is to pass judgment on his or her character—a declaration that this person doesn’t belong in polite society. It’s why, when faced with the accusation, Americans often rush to deny any prejudice. I don’t have a racist bone in my body, goes the cliché. But individualized prejudice is just one way to think of racism. There’s also institutional bias or systemic outcomes—the things that lead critics to deem the criminal justice system as “racist.” And beyond the material, there’s racism as ideology—a structured worldview defined by support for race hierarchy and racial caste.

Racist ideology ebbs and flows through our history, changing with the shape of American society and the contours of American life. When the South was a vast archipelago of human bondage and labor camps, racist ideology took the form of a widespread belief in black inferiority and underlay the forceful defenses of slavery. When segregation was law and legislators defended lynching on the Senate floor—even though anti-racism had claimed a small foothold in the national consciousness—racist ideology was a virulent and violent “white supremacy.” America still has white supremacists, and they still terrorize nonwhites with harassment and violence. But now that most Americans share a nominal commitment to racial equality—such that the country celebrated at the election of its first black president, more than eight years ago—explicitly racist ideology has cloaked itself in a kind of “nationalism,” outside the mainstream, but not far from its borders.

This nationalism, white nationalism, was the ideology of Anton’s essay, driven by contempt for immigrants and foreigners of all stripes. A century ago, in the preface to Madison Grant’s The Passing of the Great Race, a then-popular work of scientific racism, American eugenicist Henry Fairfield Osborn ably summed up this worldview, which now holds the White House.
Thus conservation of that race which has given us the true spirit of Americanism is not a matter either of racial pride or of racial prejudice; it is a matter of love of country, of a true sentiment which is based upon knowledge and the lessons of history rather than upon the sentimentalism which is fostered by ignorance. If I were asked: What is the greatest danger which threatens the American republic to-day? I would certainly reply: The gradual dying out among our people of those hereditary traits through which the principles of our religious, political and social foundations were laid down and their insidious replacement by traits of less noble.
 This is Decius’ view. It was essentially the ideology behind Trump's campaign, defined by its hostility toward Muslims, marked by its reliance on racist stereotypes of Hispanic immigrants, and not so subtly contemptuous of black Americans. Now, it all but drives Trump’s administration, voiced by key figures and expressed through policy.

The ideological leader of the Trump movement is Sessions, hailed by Bannon for “developing populist nation-state policies” from his somewhat isolated perch in the Senate. Bannon, who avoids the spotlight, gives away the game in his praise of Sessions. “In America and Europe, working people are reasserting their right to control their own destinies,” he wrote in a recent statement to the Washington Post, blasting the “cosmopolitan elites in the media that live in a handful of our larger cities.” Given the demographics of Trump’s support—given the demographics of Europe—this definition of “working people” can mean only one thing: white people. And “cosmopolitan elites” has a long history as a euphemism for Jews and other minorities.

Sessions at least does us the service of being clear about his ideas and priorities. “In seven years we’ll have the highest percentage of Americans, non-native born, since the founding of the republic,” he said in a 2015 interview with Bannon. He continued:

Some people think we’ve always had these numbers, and it’s not so; it’s very unusual; it’s a radical change. When the numbers reached about this high in 1924, the president and Congress changed the policy, and it slowed down immigration significantly. We then assimilated through 1965 and created really the solid middle class of America, with assimilated immigrants, and it was good for America.

In 1924, Congress passed the Johnson–Reed Act, which placed strict limits on immigration. But these weren’t neutral limits, broadly applicable to migrants from all parts of the globe. They were national limits—racial limits. The stakes, for proponents of the law, were nothing less than the survival of an Anglo-Saxon America. In Strangers in the Land: Patterns of American Nativism, 1860-1925, the late historian John Higham notes how lawmakers and legislators conceived of the project of immigration restriction. “Its champions now largely ignored the economic arguments they had advanced in behalf of the first quota law three years before,” he writes. “Instead, they talked about preserving a ‘distinct American type,’ about keeping America for Americans, or about saving the Nordic race from being swamped.”

To that end, the Johnson–Reed Act placed tight quotas on Southern and Eastern Europeans, particularly Italians and Jews, Africans, and Middle Easterners. It barred Asian immigration entirely. “Without offense, but with regard to the salvation of our own, let us shut the door and assimilate what we have, and let us breed pure American citizens and develop our own American resources,” declared South Carolina Sen. Ellison DuRant Smith during debates over the law. This, for Sessions, is the right approach. Or, as White House counselor Kellyanne Conway said to the Post, “Sen. Sessions laid a bit of groundwork ... on matters like trade and illegal immigration. It was candidate Trump then who was able to elevate those twin pillars in a way that cast it through the lens of what’s good for the American worker.”[More]

Tonight the trump administration is scrambling to find the person who leaked to the world what we all suspected: That the White House (and the person who occupies it) is a dysfunctional mess.




108 comments:

dinthebeast said...

The same old bullshit they peddle to the Pig People to this day for profit and votes:

Your ignorance is noble and your bigotry is patriotic.

Be scared of anyone who doesn't look like you.

Never mind that poor white people have much more in common with poor people of color than they do the rich white people who are running this scam on them and don't give a rat's ass about them or their families or lives.

-Doug in Oakland

Fuck you, Wayne said...

"White nationalism is bad" says noted Black Nationalist Field Negro.

Anonymous said...

dinthebeast said...
"Never mind that poor white people have much more in common with poor people of color than they do the rich white people who are running this scam on them and don't give a rat's ass about them or their families or lives"

Rich white people vote democrat.

People of color, rich or poor, hate white people, especially poor white people.

Progressive whites hate poor white people. They call them names like "Pig People".

They all support mass immigration because of this hatred.

Donald Trump is the first politician in a generation who gives a rat's ass about poor white people. His great sin is not that he favors them (he does not), but that he does not specifically exclude them from America's future.

Simply acknowledging that poor white people have legitimate interests like anyone else is now equated with white supremacism by the Left.

America is a great nation because it is primarily a white nation. When America becomes majority non-white, it will become just like the rest of the non-white world. People everywhere, including America, have the right to stand up for their nation.

Anonymous said...

For all their talk about equality, anti-whites continually admit that true equality is the last thing they want. The very thought of having to compete with whites on a level playing field using the same objective standards is abhorrent to them, and for good reason.

Anonymous said...

Too much to read but I cried, cringed, farted and scream! Then there the unmentionables.

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mike from iowa said...

Kavanut is deeply anti-immigrant. I suspect Uncle Tom Thomas has had enough wasicu rubbed off on his black hide to be anti-immigrant as well.

Someone lamented last week there were more white nationalists in the Kremlin Annex than Blacks.

Sick of fuckboys said...

The very thought of having to compete with whites on a level playing field using the same objective standards is abhorrent to them, and for good reason.
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Probably the same reason whites, especially white males, need to put the thumb on the scale to make sure they always have a leg up because they have been exposed as the overrated and mostly dimwitted crew that they are. Now go burn shit you already paid for because the orange simpleton in the WH told you.

The Deplorables said...

What are acceptable topics white people can write about now that discussions about our well being and best interests are banned?

Anonymous said...

Fuck white people. Fuck the white race.

Anonymous said...

Black Anti-violence activist Delmonte Johnson killed: ‘He died as a servant of gangs’


https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/person-critically-shot-in-far-south-side/

Nice photo of him flashing a gang sign.

Anonymous said...

The Nordic race ,a bunch of savages with no morals,values or brains! Beasts that multiplied en masse while exterminating all others!

Anonymous said...

Black Anti-violence activist Delmonte Johnson killed: ‘He died as a servant of gangs’
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Any stories about white hillbillies ODing? Oh that's right, that never happens.

mike from iowa said...

http://juanitajean.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/tt180906.gif

Kavanaugh hearings explained so stoopid fucking wingnuts can understand and follow.

Anonymous said...

Kavanaugh hearings explained so stupid fucking moonbats can understand and follow:

You lost. All of your screeching and clowning can't change that.

Anonymous said...

"The Nordic race ,a bunch of savages with no morals,values or brains! Beasts that multiplied en masse while exterminating all others!"


Blacks kill each other at exponential rates all across America, its black on black, yet they blame others.

Just fucking do it said...

It amuses me to no end that this entire protest/kneeling movement was based on such a factually inaccurate premise. Namely, that police are shooting black people in such wildly disproportionate numbers that today’s law enforcement essentially amounts to hunting dindus for sport. Pointing out that blacks are shot at a higher frequency than would be expected based on their percentage of the population is a factually accurate statement, but it also ignores several important factors, the most obvious being that they also account for a much higher percentage of violent crimes. I would expect a specific demographic to be shot by police at roughly the same rate they commit violent crimes. Taken in that context, they are actually shot LESS frequently than one would expect. Of course, ‘factually inaccurate premise’ succinctly describes just about every liberal position, so this should hardly come as a surprise.

Anonymous said...

> Of course, ‘factually inaccurate premise’ succinctly describes just about every liberal position

Exactly.  Leftism is based on lies.  Not accidental falsehoods, but obvious lies.

Why?  Because if you can force people to be silent while they know they are being lied to, and even force them to repeat the lies, you have power over them.  Leftism is about acquiring and exercising illegitimate power over others.  The more outrageous the lies, the greater the power.

The Trumpening said...

Obama literally sued nuns to force them to fund abortions.

Thank God we now have a president that respects religious freedoms and treats everyone fairly.

mike from iowa said...

The Trumpening lies his ass off, just like always.

Those poor fucking Nazi nuns only had to fill out a small form and they would be allowed to opt out, but the crying activists complained it was such a burden on their poor widdle heads they couldn't possibly manage it. The activist right wing Scotus agree that filling in a few spaces on a form was an insurmountable burden against insincerely held political views of people who are not supposed to be political.

mike from iowa said...

Anymoose is a bigger liar than than the lying Trumpening.

Anonymous said...

Whaaaaaa whaaaa whaaaa, we can't discuss an all white country. Boo hoo. Chicago, Chicago, Chicago. Black on black crime. Obama was a secret gay moooooslim who forces priests to have sex with little boys and nuns to have abortions performed on themselves. Does that about cover the typical fuckboi post?

trumpenings are kinda dumb said...

Thank God we now have a president that respects religious freedoms and treats everyone fairly.
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You mean thank god there is an idiot in power who elevates the idiot class like yourself.

mike from iowa said...

https://www.cnn.com/2013/01/26/us/colorado-fetus-lawsuit/index.html

Catholis arguing a fetus isn't a human until it is born alive when they are being sued for the death of a mother and twin fetii.

So much for sincerely held religious beliefs and stoopid fucking wingnuts.

dinthebeast said...

"Rich white people vote democrat."

What are you smoking? Rich white men vote Republican, although that is swinging back toward voting for sanity again in the face of the the Republican party making a big show of rubbing their own shit in their hair and parading around like everyone should admire them for it.

-Doug in Oakland

Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...

Anonymous said:

"Rich white people vote democrat."


"Donald Trump is the first politician in a generation who gives a rat's ass about poor white people. His great sin is not that he favors them (he does not), but that he does not specifically exclude them from America's future."



I see by your post that you are not well educated in current politics. There is no truth to your first statement. According to
https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/groups-voted-2016/
there is not a great deal of difference how people vote based on income except for people earning less than 50 thousand a year. Here the split is 46 percent Republican and 30 percent Democratic. Go to the chart and look for yourself.

And I ask you, What has Donald Trump done for the Poor other than increase the cost of their health insurance, cut food grants for poor children, and reduce Medicaid eligibility?

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said:

"Blacks kill each other at exponential rates all across America, its black on black, yet they blame others."

So do whites, honey. So do whites. To become informed go to www.splcenter.org

Anonymous said...

"there is not a great deal of difference how people vote based on income except for people earning less than 50 thousand a year. Here the split is 46 percent Republican and 30 percent Democratic."

Your own chart shows that as income goes up, so does the percentage of white people who vote democrat.

You and Doug are living in the past. There has been another great realignment of the parties. The Democrats are now the party of Wall Street. It is the democrats who promote the globalist interests of the elite and whose agenda is pushed by mega-corporations.

The Trump version of the Republicans represents the middle and working class interests, small businesses and wage earners against the upper middle and rich classes who benefit from outsourcing jobs and insourcing cheap labor.

Wake the fuck up, the 80's are over.

mike from iowa said...

Screwdy Rudy wants to see Mueller report before it is released so he knows what to write in his rebuttal. Is that how it is done boys and girls?

mike from iowa said...

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/obama-calls-trump-name-first-time-since-leaving-white-house-mocks-economic-miracle/

Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...


The Trumpening said...

"Obama literally sued nuns to force them to fund abortions."


NO, he did not. He asked all organization with religious objections to fill out a form that enabled them to opt out of allowing their civilian employees to have insurance to pay for abortion. The nuns objected to this, so instead of signing the paper, the nuns sued the government. Obama did not sue the nuns!

Why do you conservatives continue to repeat these half-baked lies?

mike from iowa said...

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-lied-least-4-times-oath-confirmation-hearings/

Lies 4 times?no biggie. He will be confirmed. The rest of the swamp things lied under oath, including perjurer Sessions and you know Drumpf will perjure himself.

Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...

Anonymous said:

"You and Doug are living in the past."

No Doug and I are not living in the past. The data I quoted was from the 2016 election. Here's the site https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/groups-voted-2016/ Please go take a look.

dinthebeast said...

Dana Rohrabacher (R) appears to be tied with Harley Rouda (D), 45% to 45%.
There's something not stuck in the past for you.

-Doug in Oakland

Loretta Lynch Mob said...

mike from iowa said...
"Screwdy Rudy wants to see Mueller report before it is released so he knows what to write in his rebuttal. Is that how it is done boys and girls?"

No, usually there is a clandestine meeting on the tarmac where the Attorney General meets the spouse of the accused and promises to drop all charges.

Anonymous said...

"No Doug and I are not living in the past. The data I quoted was from the 2016 election."

You apparently don't know how to read the data you quoted. You are completely wrong. The topic is the voting preferences of whites by income. The average Trump voter was wealthier than the average Clinton voter, but that is because Hillary got 95% of the black vote and 70% of the Hispanic vote. Among whites, wealthier areas went for Hillary and poorer/middle class areas went for Trump.

While polling data on the rich is imprecise given their small population, polls of the top-earning households favor Hillary Clinton over Donald J. Trump two to one. The July Affluent Barometer survey by Ipsos found that among voters earning more than $100,000 a year — roughly the top 25 percent of households — 45 percent said they planned to vote for Mrs. Clinton, while 28 percent planned to vote for Mr. Trump. The rest were undecided or planned to vote for another candidate.

The spread was even wider among the highest earners. For those earning $250,000 or more — roughly the top 5 percent of households — 53 percent planned to vote for Mrs. Clinton while 25 percent favored Mr. Trump. The survey’s margin of error was plus or minus four points.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/23/business/rich-vote-republican-not-this-election-maybe.html

Rich white areas vote Democrat:
https://www.newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2016/11/new-england-rich-so-why-does-it-vote-democrat

Rich people prefered Hillary:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/why-democrats-are-becoming-the-party-of-the-1-percent

35 point gap between whites with/without college degrees:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/behind-trumps-victory-divisions-by-race-gender-education/

President Upgrade said...

Reuters: August Job Growth Surges:
U.S. job growth accelerated in August, with wages notching their largest annual increase in nine years, strengthening views the economy was so far weathering the Trump administration’s escalating trade war with China.

Job growth "accelerated," with 210,000 new jobs being added, and, even more remarkably, wages increased at the fastest rate in nine years.

We had an eight year period of wage stagnation under Obama (and wages didn't grow much under Bush, either).

The economy is growing so quickly that the Fed is finally raising interest rates (to manage the growth and give us room to cut rates during the inevitable slowdown) after eight years of zero or below zero interest rates and three rounds of "Quantitative Easing," dumping paper money into the economy.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-instantview/instant-view-us-august-job-growth-surges-idUSKCN1LN1N7

mike from iowa said...

The economy is languishing at the same rate as Obama's did. Where is the 4-5% growth in the GDP? You stoopid fucking wingnuts are so deaperate for any good news you blow ordinary numbers up into the stratosphere. There isn't a sane economist out there that thinks this will last. The walls will come crumbling down and Drumpf will blame HRC's emails and the black GOST potus that was actually legally elected by the people of America.

Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...

Anonymous said:

"You apparently don't know how to read the data you quoted. You are completely wrong. The topic is the voting preferences of whites by income. The average Trump voter was wealthier than the average Clinton voter, but that is because Hillary got 95% of the black vote and 70% of the Hispanic vote. Among whites, wealthier areas went for Hillary and poorer/middle class areas went for Trump."

Sorry but I don't see your point. The data I cited was compiled by income intervals. I did not cite any averages or specific amounts of income. Historically, higher income people have tended to vote Republican regardless of their racial classification. And lower income people regardless of racial classification have tended to vote Democratic since FDR introduced The New Deal.

The election of Donald Trump was an anomaly. Trump stirred racial and class resentment, pretended to be a populist, welcomed help from Russia, and lied like crazy. Even after that, he didn't win the popular vote. He was elected through the antiquated Electoral College.

BTW, if review election results since about 1960, you will find that about 90 percent or more of the black vote has gone to Democratic candidates, while few Democrats running for president have gained even 50 percent of the white vote.

mike from iowa said...

https://www.vox.com/2018/9/7/17824598/republicans-block-hurricane-maria-investigation

Dtoopid fucking wingnuts don't want the world to know what the world already knows- Drumpf's response to Maria was a clusterfuck on a scale no one ever witnssed before.

dinthebeast said...


Josh Barro

@jbarro

bringing a lie detector to the White House feels like bringing a drug-sniffing dog to Studio 54
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From Steve Benen:

"Donald Trump has now been in office for 19 full months -- February 2017 through August 2018 -- and in that time, the economy has created 3.58 million jobs. In the 19 full months preceding Trump's presidency -- July 2015 to January 2017 -- the economy created 3.96 million jobs.

The White House has not yet offered an explanation for why job growth has slowed."

-Doug in Oakland

Flashback Friday said...

"bringing a lie detector to the White House feels like bringing a drug-sniffing dog to Studio 54"

Obama used lie detectors to sniff out leakers:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/flashback-obama-prosecuted-staff-leakers-gave-lie-detector-tests-paranoid

Witch hunt said...

George Papadopoulos got a 14 day jail sentence. What’s that, a little less than the sentence for a DUI, and a little more than jaywalking? Doesn’t sound like Mueller has shit for evidence.

He wasn't charged with being a RUSSIAN spy -- just relentlessly investigated and publicly accused of that.

He was actually charged with, supposedly, lying about when he met with Russiagate figure Josef Misfud -- something he denies, and which is of very dubious relevance in any event.

His sentence is for two weeks in the clink. Which might actually be too severe for the non-crime he's actually accused of.

I don't think they'll be able to squeeze him further.

America is a communist country said...

The fact that being called a Nazi results in hysterical denunciations while being called a Bolshevik has no effect whatsoever shows the extent to which Marxism pervades public discourse and how deeply embedded the indoctrination has become.

"Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time and the fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators"

----Solzhenitsyn

Anonymous said...

“The fact that being called a Nazi results in hysterical denunciations while being called a Bolshevik has no effect whatsoever shows the extent to which Marxism pervades public discourse and how deeply embedded the indoctrination has become.”

Jesus, you are astoundingly out of touch with reality. My guess is that you have never set foot outside the US. And, in fact, probably have never even ventured outside Alabammy, or whatever backwater, snake-handlin’, trailer-dwellin’, sister-humpin’ state you hail from.

Because if you had, you’d realize that the United States is about the most economically right-wing country on the planet, barring only dictatorships like Saudi Arabia.

“Bolshevik,” my ass. This is a view that only makes sense in the bizarro world of wingnut media, where they pretend a two-dollar hike in the minimum wage would constitute “socialism.”

All power to the Soviets, comrades!

LOL

Anonymous said...

The only "anti-democratic" thing that has happened in the USA since 2016 is that the party that lost the election has refused to accept the result.

America is a communist country said...

"My guess is that you have never set foot outside the US."

Wrong again.

Cultural Marxism is ascendant in all major governmental, academic, and even religious institutions in America. All major corporations now embrace the globohomo agenda. America is a progressive theocracy that uses rapacious economic capitalism to fuel its social marxist ideology, destroying all rival cultures in a quest to establish the eternal dominion of the chosen elite over the deracinated masses who exist to serve them.

We are the Evil Empire now.

mike from iowa said...

Yeah, Drumpf still thinks he won the rigged cheating contest. Funny how he blames everyone else for his gift from Putie.

James Rosen said...

Obama didn't just "complain" about Fox News -- he spied on their reporters.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/05/20/james_rosen_spied_on_his_case_is_even_worse_than_the_ap_reporters.html

mike from iowa said...

Witch hunt said... you apparently aren't familiar with plea bargaining to get a criminal to testify against a higher up, are you?

I suspect Mueller got plenty of corroborable evidence out of Papadickless.

Witch hunt said...

mike from iowa said...
Witch hunt said... you apparently aren't familiar with plea bargaining to get a criminal to testify against a higher up, are you?
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The process of offering sweetheart deals to people in return for their “cooperation” to get someone else convicted has long been one of the most corrupt aspects of the federal criminal-justice system, especially as part of the federal government’s much-vaunted (and much-failed) war on drugs.

Suppose a federal criminal defendant contacts a prospective witness in a case and offers him $50,000 in return for his “cooperation” in his upcoming trial. The money will be paid as soon as the trial is over. The defendant makes it clear that he wants the witness to “tell the truth” but that his “cooperation” when he testifies at trial would be greatly appreciated.

What would happen if federal officials learned about that communication and offer? They would go ballistic. They would immediately secure an indictment for bribery and witness tampering.

What if the defendant says, “Oh, no, I wasn’t tampering with the witness. I specifically told him that I wanted him to tell the truth when he took the witness stand. I was just seeking his friendly ‘cooperation’ with my $50,000 offer to him.”?

It wouldn’t make a difference. Federal prosecutors would go after him with a vengeance on bribery and witness-tampering charges. And it is a virtual certainty that they would get a conviction.

There is good reason for that. The law recognizes that the money could serve as an inducement for the witness to lie. Even though the defendant tells him to “tell the truth,” the witness knows that the fifty grand is being paid to him to help the defendant get acquitted, especially since it is payable after the trial is over. The temptation to lie, in return for the money, becomes strong, which is why the law prohibits criminal defendants from engaging in this type of practice.

Suppose a federal prosecutor says to a witness,

“You are facing life in prison on the charges we have brought against you. But if you ‘cooperate’ with us to get John Doe, we will adjust the charges so that the most the judge can do is send you to jail for only 5 years at most. If you are really ‘cooperative,’ we will recommend that the judge give you the lowest possible sentence, perhaps even probation. Oh, one more thing, we want to make it clear that we do want you to tell the truth.”

Do you see the problem? The temptation to please the prosecutor with “cooperation” becomes tremendous. If the witness can help secure a conviction of Doe, he stands to get a much lighter sentence for his successful “cooperation.” The inducement to commit perjury oftentimes takes over, notwithstanding the prosecutor’s admonition to the witness to “tell the truth.”

Defenders of this corrupt process say that without it, prosecutors could never get convictions. That’s pure nonsense. For one thing, prosecutors can secure a conviction against the witness and then force him to testify once his case is over. That’s because a person whose case is over is unable to rely on the Fifth Amendment to avoid testifying in the case against John Doe.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-29/trump-right-about-flipping

Anonymous said...

“Cultural Marxism is ascendant in all major governmental, academic, and even religious institutions in America.”

“Cultural” Marxism does not exist. Marxism is an economic system, period.

Wingnut “thought leaders” (lol) have tried to attach the word “Marxism” to efforts to oppose bigotry, because wingnuts are morons and they’ve idiotically decided that anything they don’t like must be some kinda communist thingy.

American wingnuts are self-parodying. You can’t satirize them, because whatever humorous exaggeration of their awfulness you might think to make, they are already so much worse than that.

dinthebeast said...

"Obama used lie detectors to sniff out leakers"

Obama isn't a pathological liar surrounded by pathological liars.
Thus the joke. Fergus' white house is so full of lies that testing for them would be like testing studio 54 for drug use.

-Doug in Oakland

PilotX said...

"Why do you conservatives continue to repeat these half-baked lies?"

What's the old joke about the scorpion and the frog?😂

dinthebeast said...

So it costs a dollar to punch a Nazi. That's value.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/405384-jury-fines-man-who-punched-unite-the-right-organizer-1

-Doug in Oakland

dinthebeast said...

"Why do you conservatives continue to repeat these half-baked lies?"


Wingnut Agnosia: An impairment in the ability to recognize the blindingly fucking obvious. (h/t: Driftglass)

-Doug in Oakland

Anonymous said...

“So it costs a dollar to punch a Nazi. That's value.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/405384-jury-fines-man-who-punched-unite-the-right-organizer-1”


Jason Kessler should probably go into hiding, since it appears that Jason Kessler beatdowns have been marked down to clearance prices.

America is a communist country said...

"“Cultural” Marxism does not exist. Marxism is an economic system, period."

Such ignorance is nauseating.

America is a communist country said...

“So it costs a dollar to punch a Nazi. That's value."

Our communist society has now legalized violence against anti-communists.

Things are proceeding apace.

President Clownbama said...

Obama criticizes Americans for embracing "wild conspiracy theories -- like those surrounding Benghazi. Or my birth certificate."

Minutes later accuses GOP of "cozying up" to KGB and letting the "Russians hack" our election.

Take a bow, Spartacus

President I. Lie said...

Obama today: "I complained plenty about Fox News, but you never heard me threaten to shut them down, or call them enemies of the people."

Reality check: Obama criminally prosecuted Fox News journalists. Obama had his DOJ surveil Fox News reporters, track their whereabouts and look at their emails and phone records because Obama did not like their reporting. Obama used the Espionage Act against journalists and leakers alike.

Anonymous said...

“Reality check: Obama criminally prosecuted Fox News journalists. Obama had his DOJ surveil Fox News reporters, track their whereabouts and look at their emails and phone records because Obama did not like their reporting.”

Is this the dumb James Rosen thing again? Another load of bullshit.

The Obama DOJ named Rosen as a “co-conspirator” solely in order to get warrants for his phones and emails so they could track down and prosecute the source for Rosen’s story, Stephen Kim, who was illegally leaking highly classified American intelligence information about North Korea.

One could argue that this was an underhanded and inappropriate way of obtaining a warrant (because Rosen was never actually suspected of any crime; the US attorney lied about that to get the warrant), but Rosen himself was never prosecuted and was never the target of the investigation.

And it was not because “Obama did not like their reporting.” It was because Fox got the information to do their reporting courtesy of a federal government employee committing a crime.

Anonymous said...

Did Obama’s policies stimulate the economy?

I. At the G20 Summit, Obama greeted the King of Saudi Arabia by bowing from the waist; a true American would NEVER bow down or curtsy to any foreign monarch

II. When Obama went to Cairo to address the Muslim world he declare a new beginning between the US and Muslims blaming Westerns for hostility towards Muslims. He insisted Westerners denied rights and opportunities for Muslims, but he never mentioned how the Ottoman Empire rule the Arab world for 600 years.

III. Obama promoted the Council on American-Islamic Relations and the Islamic Society of North American with not only a wink and a nod; but widespread giveaways.

IV. Essentially, Obama stimulated an economy favoring Muslims; as opposed to disenfranchised black Americans.

dinthebeast said...

That's not even wingnut agnosia, that's just plain old agnosia.

-Doug in Oakland

PilotX said...

"Did Obama’s policies stimulate the economy?"

Sure, GDP increased after it fell off a cliff in 08-09.

Spartacus said...

Cory Booker: "I am not paying for these breadsticks."

Waiter: "Sir, this is Olive Garden. Breadsticks are complimentary."

Cory Booker: "I said, I am not paying for these breadsticks."

dinthebeast said...

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-demands-to-know-who-put-entering-crazytown-sign-on-oval-office-door

-Doug in Oakland

mike from iowa said...

Very few racist thugs deserved a beatdown more than Kessler. Neither Obama or legally elected Potus HRC offered to pay the beaters legal bills before or after. That is progress above intellectual capacity of stoopid fucking wingnuts.

mike from iowa said...

Anonymous President Clownbama said...

Obama criticizes Americans for embracing "wild conspiracy theories -- like those surrounding Benghazi. Or my birth certificate."

Minutes later accuses GOP of "cozying up" to KGB and letting the "Russians hack" our election.


I believe there are 87 known instances of Drumpfuck's lying henchmen meeting with Russian gubmint officials during the campaign and after the election. All documented. All true, stoopid fucking wingnuts.

mike from iowa said...

James Rosen got Bill O'ed at Fake News for dragging pecker tracks across female employees? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Clinton and her emails made him do it.

Lance Cockstrong said...

What white boys like Butt Trumpet and his pale supporters lack in dick size, they make up in the size of their hatred for blacks and their racist pride.

Yisheng = nigger, lilac = cunt said...

Trump supporters will support any ideology that oppresses anybody who isn't white! They are sick and twisted!

YellowMONEY said...

And yet, black nationalism as an ideology is an accepted mainstream thing. That's why your white liberal/Democrat masters allow blacks to spew racist shit every day.

Katelyn Davidson said...

Black men are disgusting. Black women have pretty poor taste in most things, so it's no wonder so many have chosen to mate with them. Blech.

Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...


YellowMONEY said...

"And yet, black nationalism as an ideology is an accepted mainstream thing. That's why your white liberal/Democrat masters allow blacks to spew racist shit every day."

Hey Yellow, please define what you mean by Black Nationalism. Thanks.

Dave Zirin = faggot kike said...

White supremacy is a joke. The only things whites are better at than black people are being retarded and being pieces of shits.

Kill white men, fuck white women said...

Kill white men.
Fuck white women.

straight2thetop said...

As a Chinese-American I have to say that a black criticizing white nationalism amongst the Trump crowed is highly ironic seeing as there was plenty of black nationalism amongst many of the Obama lovers. Then again, critical thinking is not one of your people's strong suits.


See more at:
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reddit.com/r/aznidentity

Anonymous said...

> The only things whites are better at than black people are being retarded and being pieces of shits.

So you're moving to Africa to get away from whites and everything they've built, right?  Right?

If you need help packing, just ask.

Anonymous said...

Kavanaugh WILL be confirmed. So put your pussy hats on and have a box of Kleenex handy and some crayons.

mike from iowa said...

Anonymous Katelyn Davidson said...

Black men are disgusting. Black women have pretty poor taste in most things, so it's no wonder so many have chosen to mate with them. Blech.

So naturally, Ms Racist Scum you would be built along the general lines of a Percheron. http://www.horsebreedspictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Horse-Percheron.jpg

Goooollly, toots, you be Black, too.

dinthebeast said...

Pence sure seems to like the word "lodestar"... I thought he'd be more of a "doughy pantload" kind of a guy, but with more fake Jebus in the, uh, load.

-Doug in Oakland

mike from iowa said...

Kavanaut will be and be just as illegitimate a justice as Drumpfuck is potus. And impeachable as well.

dinthebeast said...


Howard Dean

@GovHowardDean

Kavanaugh knows the perjury is probably disqualifying and he knows his past perjury has now been revealed. He may be a creep but he is a smart lawyer. I don’t think it’s dawned on the Senate yet, with a few exceptions, what bad trouble this nomination is in.

-Doug in Oakland

mike from iowa said...

Drumpfuck Deangement Sindrome isn't a proble. The real problem is Kiss Drumpfuck's ass every time he lies or commits criminal acts.

mike from iowa said...

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/george-zimmerman-accused-threatening-beyonce-trayvon-martin-documentary-report/

Zipperfuckermurdererman needs to keep his yap shut and his whereabouts unknown or else he will get bitch slapped like never before.

Keep the good stuff coming, Doug. It makes stoopid fucking wingnuts cream their boxer shorts.

Wokemon said...

Woke up today.

Bought some Woke Nike's to own the Nazis.

Bought a 3-liter of Woke Cola to own the Nazis.

Took out a Woke Loan at Woke Banking to own the Nazis.

Doxed a Nazi on behalf of Woke LLC

I am powerful. I am God. We are the Resistance.

I think for myself.

I am Woke.

Kenny Rogers, a.k.a. "The Gambler" said...

All I know is that the results of Trump’s style are making America great again, are proving just how horribly this country has been managed by the failed Establishment for the last 30 years.

President Loser said...

2016 Obama: Some of those jobs of the past are not going to come back. (Trump) says he's going to bring all of those jobs back. How actually are you going to negotiate that? He doesn't have an answer.

2018 Obama: Republicans say the job numbers are a miracle. Actually those job numbers are the same as they were in 2015, in 2016.

Anonymous said...

I hope the New England Patriots do the right thing and replace Tom Brady with Colin Kaepernick because social justice is more important than winning.

The Great Divider said...

Barack Obama on people left behind by new economy: “And it’s not surprising then they get bitter,they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

President Dictator said...

Barack Obama justifying ignoring constitution limits on the power of President: “Middle-class families can’t wait for Republicans in Congress to do stuff. So sue me.”

The Great Divider said...

Barack Obama in a Univision interview calling on Hispanics to vote against GOP “enemies”: “If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, ‘We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us...”

President Hypocrite said...

Pres. Obama is right. It is wrong for a President to use divisive language, such as:
1. Call all opponents of same-sex marriage bigots
2. Call the Pro-Life movement a "War on Women"
3. Call all immigration enforcement advocates racists
4. Call the GOP the enemy of Hispanics

mike from iowa said...

Anonymous Kenny Rogers, a.k.a. "The Gambler" said...

All I know is that the results of Trump’s style are making America great again, are proving just how horribly this country has been managed by the failed Establishment for the last 30 years.

You don't know shit, son. You have been brainwashed to think bad is good. America is not respected because of the loose brained jackass in the Kremlin Annex and his big fucking, Putin cock sucking mouth.

Drumpfuck's bestest buddy Putie is willing to back Syria to the hilt if they use poison gas again. That can't be because Drumpf knows Putie inside and out and he would never do that. He is our friend. Yaeh, yer s fucking moron, son.

Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...


Anonymous Katelyn Davidson said...

"Black men are disgusting."

Well Kate, I don't think anyone is forcing you to data a black man, so what is your problem? Why post your disgusting opinion?

Puerto Rican food looks, smells, and tastes like shit said...

tr**p and his supporters are the epitome of domestic terrorists.

Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...

President Hypocrite said...

"Pres. Obama is right. It is wrong for a President to use divisive language, such as:
1. Call all opponents of same-sex marriage bigots
2. Call the Pro-Life movement a "War on Women"
3. Call all immigration enforcement advocates racists
4. Call the GOP the enemy of Hispanics"


What the hell? Are you proposing that President Obama said these four things? If so, please give us your source that includes date and location. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Fuck the gooks and chinks!

White feminists are retarded cunts said...

White nationalism is for silly people who are mentally stuck in the 19th century.

mike from iowa said...

The fictitious "pro-life" movement is a war on women and a woman's fundamental right to bodily autonomy.

Greedy Old People party poopers are the enemies of Hispanics and Hispanic/Latino Americans.

As for racists he should have led off with the Drumpfuckian Kremlin Annex as the most racist it has been since pre-Civil War.

Love scratching my asshole said...

This Cult of Trump is almost as bad as and sometimes worse than anything the 1980's puked out.

President Hypocrite said...

"What the hell? Are you proposing that President Obama said these four things?"

Yes. He. Did.

You are hopelessly ignorant.

Fact of the Day said...

White people are bland af.

Jack Ketch said...

G2 said,
"Well Kate, I don't think anyone is forcing you to data a black man, so what is your problem? Why post your disgusting opinion?"

I read it as more of a PSA than an opinion.

Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...

Anonymous Puerto Rican food looks, smells, and tastes like shit said...


"tr**p and his supporters are the epitome of domestic terrorists."


True. Good way to describe them!

Anonymous said...

Yisheng = nigger

lilac = cunt

mike from iowa said...

Anonymous President Hypocrite said...

Pres. Obama is right. It is wrong for a President to use divisive language, such as:
1. Call all opponents of same-sex marriage bigots
2. Call the Pro-Life movement a "War on Women"
3. Call all immigration enforcement advocates racists
4. Call the GOP the enemy of Hispanics

4:55 PM

This was lifted from an alleged Tweet from Marco Rubio, with no affirmation I might add.