I am starting a new feature, it's called question of the day.
Here is today's question:
If Donald trump said that he would resign today, but Mike Pence would have to pardon him and the New York state attorney general's office would have to stop their investigations against him, would you agree to those terms?
Both long and short answers are fine.
233 comments:
1 – 200 of 233 Newer› Newest»No. But it is an annoying question, tempting and infuriating at the same time. Too many crimes have been either neutralized through pardons (Nixon) or buried in the interest of the nation's "looking forward" (Dubya,Cheney) and we will continue to pay the cost in new corruption until we get our elected criminals to do hard time. And this orange orang is so far a virtuoso of grift, graft, blackmail, obstruction, lying under oath, collusion, the whole list.
Would my answer be different if the race appeared closer and Trump made the same offer? I refuse to put myself through that ringer.
In a word, fuck no!
No, I would not.
That moment when someone says, "I can't believe you would vote for Trump."
I simply reply “I'm not voting for Trump.”
I'm voting for the First Amendment and freedom of speech.
I'm voting for the Second Amendment and my right to defend my life and my family.
I'm voting for the next Supreme Court Justice(s) to protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
I’m voting for the continued growth of my retirement 401K and the stock market.
I’m voting for a return of our troops from foreign countries and the end to America’s involvement in foreign conflicts.
I'm voting for the Electoral College & the Republic we live in.
I'm voting for the Police to be respected once again and to ensure Law & Order.
I’m voting for the continued appointment of Federal Judges who respect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
I’m voting for our jobs to remain in America and not be outsourced all over again to China, Mexico and other foreign countries.
I’m voting for secure borders and legal immigration.
I'm voting for the Military & the Veterans who fought for this Country to give the American people their freedoms.
I'm voting for the unborn babies that have a right to live.
I’m voting for continued peace progress in the middle east.
I’m voting to fight against human/child trafficking.
I’m voting for Freedom of Religion.
I'm voting for the American Flag that is disrespected by the Democratic Party.
I'm voting for the right to speak my opinion & not be censored.
I'm not just voting for one person, I'm voting for the future of my Country.
I'm voting for my children and my grandchildren to ensure their freedoms and their future.
What are you voting for?
Yeah, I think I would.
I would let Trump skate on criminal charges, if it absolutely guaranteed his disastrous presidency would end immediately. Even though the polls favor Biden to win, the damage Trump is causing is so great — he’s killing huge numbers of people with his ineptitude and malice — for the good of the country, I’d take away any possibility of him getting a second term.
This might even increase the risk that Pence could get elected and Republicans would hold the White House, although I think the chances of that are quite low. Pence has all the charisma of spackling paste. He is as exciting as a day spent in line at the DMV. Plus, if Trump were taken off the ballot, many of his supporters would be demoralized and simply not vote. They might fly into a rage and smash things, but then again, they might do that anyway if Trump lost the election.
It would be frustrating to see Trump dodge criminal sanction for his misdeeds, but that doesn’t mean everything would come up roses for him. His finally-revealed tax returns suggest he is on the verge of going broke. He owes a gargantuan amount of money to the banks, nobody will lend to him anymore, and I doubt he can grift his way out of this hole once he can no longer leverage the powers of the presidency for financial gain.
We would still all get to laugh and point as he lost his business and the cranes pulled the giant “TRUMP” labels off all his buildings. Trump would finally experience his worst fear: having everyone see him as a loser.
Initially, I would have said "no". But Trump is going to be Trump, he's going to cheat on his taxes in 2021 and then we can put his pasty fat ass in stir.
I forgot to add that Trump quitting would eliminate the awful possibility that he loses the election, but refuses to leave office, thereby touching off a civil war.
I guess anymoose @ 10:36 AM is voting for Biden.
ANYTHING! I'd even give him my first born to go away.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-10-11-mn-354-story.html
the normally right-of-center Ross Douthat has some balm to spread on all those dreading a new civil war if Trump loses and won't go away:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/10/opinion/sunday/trump-election-authoritarianism.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
Anonymous Anonymous said...
That moment when someone says, "I can't believe you would vote for Trump."
I simply reply “I'm not voting for Trump.”
I'm voting for the First Amendment and freedom of speech.
I'm voting for the Second Amendment and my right to defend my life and my family.
I'm voting for the next Supreme Court Justice(s) to protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
I’m voting for the continued growth of my retirement 401K and the stock market.
I’m voting for a return of our troops from foreign countries and the end to America’s involvement in foreign conflicts.
I'm voting for the Electoral College & the Republic we live in.
I'm voting for the Police to be respected once again and to ensure Law & Order.
I’m voting for the continued appointment of Federal Judges who respect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
I’m voting for our jobs to remain in America and not be outsourced all over again to China, Mexico and other foreign countries.
I’m voting for secure borders and legal immigration.
I'm voting for the Military & the Veterans who fought for this Country to give the American people their freedoms.
I'm voting for the unborn babies that have a right to live.
I’m voting for continued peace progress in the middle east.
I’m voting to fight against human/child trafficking.
I’m voting for Freedom of Religion.
I'm voting for the American Flag that is disrespected by the Democratic Party.
I'm voting for the right to speak my opinion & not be censored.
I'm not just voting for one person, I'm voting for the future of my Country.
I'm voting for my children and my grandchildren to ensure their freedoms and their future.
What are you voting for?
10:36 AM
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Point 1. Freedom of speech is being eroded under Trump. People are being prosecuted and/or fired for speaking out. Freedom of the press is also been eroded under Trump. After calling the pres, "the enemy of the people,"He banned several reporters for the White House Press room because he didn't like the questions they asked - This is unprecedented. If Trump is reelected there will be no more free speech or press in this country.
Point 2. Freedom to own guns. Biden will not "take away your guns' just like Obama didn't take away your guns. All right-wing dire predictions about Obama and guns were wrong.
Point 3. Conservative judges on the Supreme Court will not stand up for the bill of right, as they have not done so in the past. Citizens United is one major example. Google it.
Another is gutting the Voting Rights act so that Republicans are free to limit voting opportunities for all citizens.
TO BE CONTINUED....
Why not, we can continue Republican corruption. Reagan would have gone to jail has HW not been elected. What else is new?
“the normally right-of-center Ross Douthat has some balm to spread on all those dreading a new civil war if Trump loses and won't go away”
Not very much “balm,” as far as I’m concerned.
The sort of country club conservatives who are employed by the NY Times as columnists have useless opinions. They are totally self-deluded about what their party is actually like. They are in denial about the abysmal ignorance and bigotry that characterizes the redneck foot soldiers of their party, who may, in fact, riot if their “god emperor” isn’t allowed to be president anymore.
And the past spinelessness of the congressional Republican delegation is not reassuring, either. Mitch and company have acted like complete jellyfish for four straight years, refusing to rein in Trump in any way whatsoever. Why would they suddenly stop being invertebrates and courageously stand on principle and work to save the country? Sorry, I am not seeing it.
Wow you guys are really confident Biden is going win if you are indulging in such feverish fantasies.
LOL
Anonymous at 10:36 AM
Point 4. Stock market - If you would review the public record listing stock market performance, you would find that the stock market does better under Democratic administrations than under Republican. - Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are two examples. These are easily proven by looking at the record.
Point 5. Which party sent all those troops to foreign wars where our troops are still in danger? Republican presidents, that's who. Two examples both Bushes. As I recall, both were Republicans. Do you really think Trump will do differently if there is an international incident?
Point 6. Electoral College - Since the populations of the red and blue states are relatively evenly distributed, there is no reason to keep the Electoral College. The country will still be a republic. Republic simply means that we vote for candidates who represent us. In a Democratic Republic, the candidates with the most votes win. Many of us would like to see that happen in the U.S., so that everyone's vote counted.
Point 7. Policing: It is obvious that policing in this country must be reformed. When police respect everyone they engage, it will be returned in most encounters. Of course there are trouble-making law-breakers in every community, but their rights must be respected, just as you wish yours to be. I live in a community where the police are respected and even liked. Why do we like them? Because they treat us with respect.
TO BE CONTINUED...
“Republic simply means that we vote for candidates who represent us.”
No, “republic” simply means that we don’t have a king or hereditary aristocracy.
Fringey wingnuts have concocted some bizarro definition that means we are a country in which they deserve special rights to run things and persecute others, even though they are now a demographic minority, and that they are being oppressed if they don’t get those rights.
The nurse who appeared at the Republican convention to lie and say Trump has done a wonderful job dealing with the pandemic, has now been charged with shooting another woman in the stomach.
Everyone on Team Trump is the absolute dregs.
Anonymous said...
Wow you guys are really confident Biden is going win if you are indulging in such feverish fantasies.
LOL
1:39 PM
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All indications are the these are not "feverish fantasies" unless you have some fool-proof plan to steal the election. So far, Democrats are voting in higher numbers than they have in recent elections. At least three red states appear to be turning blue, and Biden is well ahead in the three states in the mid west that Trump unexpectedly won in 2016.
After nearly four years of lies, corruption, and incompetence, it appears the most voters have had enough of Donald Trump
“After nearly four years of lies, corruption, and incompetence, it appears the most voters have had enough of Donald Trump”
White boomers are now abandoning Trump in large numbers. It turns out that a policy of doing nothing about a virus that kills elderly people, isn’t very popular with elderly people.
Go figure.
Anonymous said....
No, “republic” simply means that we don’t have a king or hereditary aristocracy.
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I beg to differ with you on this definition, as it is incomplete.
According to the dictionary available on Google, a republic is a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.
anonymous said...
White boomers are now abandoning Trump in large numbers. It turns out that a policy of doing nothing about a virus that kills elderly people, isn’t very popular with elderly people.
Go figure.
2:50 PM
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Gee, maybe they don't want to die for Trump's economy? By The way, At 83, I'm one of them, and I say, hell no.
A vote for Biden is a vote to make Harris president. Pelosi has already signaled this through her submission of a bill to make it easier to remove a President using the 25th amendment.
This is both dishonest and evil. Harris has zero qualifications to run anything.
Affirmative action and a willingness to suck her boss's cock are the only reasons why she is where she is today.
Tulsi Gabbard wrecked her during the debates because Kamasutra Harris is as dumb as a rock.
“According to the dictionary available on Google, a republic is a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.”
As the article I posted a day or two ago explained, there is an archaic definition of “republic” that meant “representative democracy.” But that is not really how anyone normal uses the term anymore. All real democracies are automatically assumed to be representative, because there isn’t really any other kind, on a nation-state scale. Today, it is mainly used to mean “country without a royal family.”
So, in the case of all those communist countries that called themselves “The People’s Democratic Republic of ...,” they were telling the truth about being republics — although, of course, lying about being democracies.
Affirmative action and a willingness to suck her boss's cock are the only reasons why she is where she is today.
And you have proof of this? Are you just libelling/slandering people you don't like?
Nope. The precedent of letting Republican presidents get away with their crimes is a large factor in how we got to this dismal place in our country's history.
Prosecute the criminals, whoever they are, and for the enablers trying to scuttle away and regroup so as to spring the same twisted bullshit on us again in 2022, burn the damn lifeboats and make them own this at least long enough for us to clean up the goddamn mess they've made of it.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
Wesley said...
A vote for Biden is a vote to make Harris president.
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If what you say is true, Kamala would be a hell of a lot better as president than incompetent Donald.
Mike from Iowa said...
Wesley said....
"Affirmative action and a willingness to suck her boss's cock are the only reasons why she is where she is today."
And you have proof of this? Are you just libelling/slandering people you don't like?
4:08 PM
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Mike, Of course he's just labeling/ slandering people he doesn't like (i.e. Democrats). It's sign pf desperation because he know that so far his candidate is losing bigly!
Prosecute the criminals, whoever they are, and for the enablers trying to scuttle away and regroup so as to spring the same twisted bullshit on us again in 2022, burn the damn lifeboats and make them own this at least long enough for us to clean up the goddamn mess they've made of it.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
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I totally agree, Doug. If we don't prosecute them, they will do the same thing next time a Republican becomes president. I hope that will be far in the future if at all. I hope that the current Republican Party collapses entirely and the sane Republicans form a new party. Then all the crazy people in Trump's base can form their own small party.
Anonymous said...
As the article I posted a day or two ago explained, there is an archaic definition of “republic” that meant “representative democracy.” But that is not really how anyone normal uses the term anymore.
3:19 PM
Since you post as anonymous I find it impossibly difficult to find the article you posted a day or tow ago. Could you repeat the web address of the source for your opinion? I would like very much to read it.
“Since you post as anonymous I find it impossibly difficult to find the article you posted a day or tow ago.”
And this is the inherent weakness in allowing people to post as anonymous. I love this blog but for the sake of constructive conversation one should have to create a username at minimum, that doesn’t infringe on free speech as far as I can see.🤔
I've had moments where I've wondered if it were possible to pay him off like a third world dictator exiled to Switzerland a la Jean-Claude Duvalier. But no, I want him and his children, his enablers to suffer the highest possible legal consequences.
PilotX said...
And this is the inherent weakness in allowing people to post as anonymous. I love this blog but for the sake of constructive conversation one should have to create a username at minimum, that doesn’t infringe on free speech as far as I can see.🤔
5:42 PM
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I agree. I wish Field would require a screen name. It does not limit anyone's freedom of speech.
“Since you post as anonymous I find it impossibly difficult to find the article you posted a day or tow ago. Could you repeat the web address of the source for your opinion? I would like very much to read it.”
Sure. It’s a good article, actually, which was written in response to Sen. Mike Lee’s scary comments on Twitter suggesting that democracy is kinda optional, and which referenced certain crazypants political theories on the right.
<a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21507713/mike-lee-democracy-republic-trump-2020”Sen. Mike Lee’s tweets against “democracy,” explained</a>
Sorry, here’s a clickable link:
Sen. Mike Lee’s tweets against “democracy,” explained
Getting back to the question posed, my answer would be yes, I accept the terms. While I would want to see trump prosecuted for his crimes, that would be looking at the situation with blinders on. 1) He would be out of office and could do no more harm to the country. 2) we as a nation could begin the process of returning to normal. 3) Those that enabled him for the last 4 years would NOT be immune from prosecution. So all the shilldren (misspelling on purpose) would be liable for any actions they did detrimental to the nation. This includes the Kids, Barr, Kayleigh, Kelly Ann, Pompeo, Meadows, the RNC, Giuliani, and any others that caused damage. 4) Additionally Trump would be disgraced, his word becomes worthless. His debts would be outstanding and he’d lose whatever value his properties have. And if those debts were to some unscrupulous sources, as some have speculated, those sources would exact their pound of flesh.
This is a broken man. That will become apparent after he is out of office, either by the question offered, or when his term is done.
Dale
Anonymous said...
Sure. It’s a good article, actually, which was written in response to Sen. Mike Lee’s scary comments on Twitter suggesting that democracy is kinda optional, and which referenced certain crazypants political theories on the right.
7:05 PM
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Interesting article. Thank you very much. That was very nice of you!
Why don't you choose a screen name and join the group here that enjoys intelligent discussion?
DTWND said.....
"Getting back to the question posed, my answer would be yes, I accept the terms. While I would want to see trump prosecuted for his crimes...."
7:25 PM
Damn - four good reason to support you position. I really like your answers and, I am contemplating how much the pain and death our country would escape if he was not around any more.
The Founders Sing strike again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1odd2yscP8Y
-Doug in Sugar Pine
Timeline of Fergus covid debacle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeuHkBGOp3E
-Doug in Sugar Pine
Antifa dude who murdered the Trump supporter yesterday was not a real security guard:
"there is no record for an active licensed security guard now or ever for an individual named Matthew Doloff or Dolloff. If he was operating as a security guard, he was in violation of the law”.
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/10/11/matthew-dolloff-denver-security-guard/
George Floyd was born in the richest, most egalitarian country the earth has ever known, was more distant from slavery and segregation than the average Yemeni or Yezhidi refugee, assaulted and robbed a pregnant woman, and was canonized as a saint for overdosing on opioids.
Racial representation in TV ads over the past ten years:
Whites were 54% of faces [66% of US population]
Blacks 34% [13%]
Hispanics 7% [16%]
Asian 2% [6%]
Other 3%
All groups except blacks are underrepresented.
Blacks overrepresented by a factor of three.
Is that strange?
Anonymous said...
Antifa dude who murdered the Trump supporter yesterday was not a real security guard:
anonymous at 10:16 PM
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If you read the Denver Post, you will see that the shooter was hired by Channel 9 in Denver to guard the news people at the demonstration because news personal have been attacked by MAGA mobs.
There is no ANTIFA or BLM plots here. Instead we have an untrained man with a gun in a crowd. What could possibly go wrong?
-Doug in Sugar Pine
8:49 PM
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Founders Sing Hilarious!
About that offer:
Throw in lifetime exile for him and his family, plus confiscation of assets, and you have a deal.
But he may not take it, for fear of his shadowy creditors. So here is my counteroffer: he leaves the election alone, he goes quietly, and he turns himself in, for protective custody in our most secure facilities.
Anonymous said...
"Is that strange?
10:49 PM
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Not really.
Lying Old Woman said...
If you read the Denver Post, you will see that the shooter was hired by Channel 9 in Denver to guard the news people at the demonstration because news personal have been attacked by MAGA mobs.
You are lying. The article says nothing about news personal being attacked by "MAGA mobs". In fact, the political violence we have experience over the past four years is almost entirely from the Left..
The shooter had an Antifa tattoo on his wrist. The reporter he was working for has been called "one of us" by Antifa. The murdered Trump supporter was unarmed.
Why do you feel compelled to lie? If your worldview was in line with reality, you wouldn't have to depend on lies to defend it.
"Racial representation in TV ads over the past ten years:"
C'mon, you know the rules. You have to post the source of your information. Geez!
Doug gives an interview:
https://twitter.com/Odel_Roo/status/1315333367429238789
Doug knows what penis tastes like.
Bernie Sanders, March 6, 2020:
"The American people are sick and tired of endless wars in the Middle East which have cost hundreds of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars. We will not defeat Trump with a candidate like Joe Biden who supported and voted for the Iraq War alongside Republicans."
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1236082407750733824
anonymous ass said....
You are lying.
11:45 PM
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Why do you think the stations hired the security guard? - because they like to waste money?
ttps://www.westword.com/news/9newss-jeremy-jojola-files-restraining-order-against-hate-criminal-samuel-cordova-11654913
More from the Denver Post - May 30, 2020
RELATED: Denver Post photographer struck twice by pepper balls during ... Rocks were thrown and Miranda Parnell, a television reporters from ...
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/political/national/journalists-wage-legal-fights-after-facing-protest-attacks
Adam Symson, the CEO of the E.W. Scripps Co., which is the parent company to this station, decried the assault on press freedoms in a memo to employees on Monday.
“I am greatly alarmed at the violence and hostility targeting news media, by both police and protestors,” Symson said. “I want to acknowledge that this feels like a new and unexpected dynamic. The targeting of journalists is unacceptable and inexcusable, and we will defend our right to report the news.” https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/national/dozens-of-journalists-assaulted-arrested-covering-protests-throughout-the-us
I post facts. It's good to do that. You should try it sometime. but I won't hold my breath.
How many times do I have to tell you morons that I've never been married. Getting the state involved in my love life never seemed like a good idea to me.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
President Trump embodies, or represents all that America is. A superpower, bold, brash, rude, barbaric, capitalistic, war mongering, an imperium built on strength and power. I would ask why people risk their very lives to get to it's shores and live there and not want to live anywhere else on earth...
YES!
No. Sadly we spend more, and so, in order to sell products, we are catered to by advertisers. It's really not that complicated.
anonymous @ 1:33 -
Normally I don't read Douthat myself. For decades the Times--I remember Safire--has furnished in-house conservatives for "balance". But I know he's distanced himself from the party of Trump, and before that, the Tea Party, and needn't answer for their abuses. I like that even though the return to moderate Liberalism isn't anything he desires per se, he does see Trump as far from a canny authoritarian that will take us into tyranny since too many pieces are missing and he's not singleminded enough to pull it off, only dream about it.
Chicago October 9th-12 2020 Peaceful Tally: 4 killed, 43 wounded:
2019 weekend tally: 8 killed, 20 wounded
2018 weekend tally: 4 killed, 26 wounded
2017 weekend tally: 9 killed, 17 wounded
2016 weekend tally: 10 killed, 42 wounded
2015 weekend tally: 3 killed, 20 wounded
2014 weekend tally: 3 killed, 22 wounded
Lilacpr said...
"President Trump embodies, or represents all that America is. A superpower, bold, brash, rude, barbaric, capitalistic, war mongering, an imperium built on strength and power."
Hate Trump if you must, but this is baseless, reflexive criticism.
Trump is the first President in 40 years not to start a war. He has held back the war mongerers and deescalated our overseas illegal wars.
As far as capitalism is concerned, he is the first President in generations to impose tariffs and renegotiate trade deals to favor American workers over the interests of free-trade globalists.
Yes he is brash and sends rude Tweets, but he is the first President in my lifetime to actually fight to get something back for the American people.
Biden represents the uni-party establishment that wants to get back to Forever Wars and selling off American jobs for the enrichment of the 1%.
Please vote for Joe Collins:
https://secure.winred.com/joe-collins-for-congress/mansionmaxine
Everyone, except stoopid fucking wingnuts, is entitled to their own opinions, Lilacpr. You probably won't find much agreement here from regulars who are not drumpfbot trolls.
Denver security guard was hired through Pinkertons. Ever heard of them? They once saved Abe lincoln's life.
Nope. Because the damage being done right now is not going to stop just because Trump leaves. Pence is equally able to mess things up. Maybe even more, since he wouldn't be as offensive while doing it.
Plus, Trump needs to be punished for what he has done.
Anonymous10:01 AM
Lilacpr said...
"President Trump embodies, or represents all that America is. A superpower, bold, brash, rude, barbaric, capitalistic, war mongering, an imperium built on strength and power."
Hate Trump if you must, but this is baseless, reflexive criticism.
Trump is the first President in 40 years not to start a war. He has held back the war mongerers and deescalated our overseas illegal wars.
As far as capitalism is concerned, he is the first President in generations to impose tariffs and renegotiate trade deals to favor American workers over the interests of free-trade globalists.
Yes he is brash and sends rude Tweets, but he is the first President in my lifetime to actually fight to get something back for the American people.
Biden represents the uni-party establishment that wants to get back to Forever Wars and selling off American jobs for the enrichment of the 1%.
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I don't hate Trump, I'm just saying that I believe his popularity is due to the fact that he represents America so well. I agree with you. People die to come here to live so must be a lot right going on too.
Yes he is brash and sends rude Tweets, but he is the first President in my lifetime to actually fight to get something back for the American people.
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But what about the more than two-hundred-thousand people dead due to Trump's concern for the stock market and his reelection? He deliberately did nothing between January and March, a time when we could have stopped the virus before it spread out of control.
What did he get back for the American people besides a raging pandemic, an economic disaster and civil unrest?
So vote for him if you wish; it's still a free country. As for me I'd rather crawl over broken glass than vote for the would-be dictator. And I think enough other people feel the same way that we can rid of ourselves of this monster.
Anonymous Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...
Yes he is brash and sends rude Tweets, but he is the first President in my lifetime to actually fight to get something back for the American people.
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But what about the more than two-hundred-thousand people dead due to Trump's concern for the stock market and his reelection? He deliberately did nothing between January and March, a time when we could have stopped the virus before it spread out of control.
What did he get back for the American people besides a raging pandemic, an economic disaster and civil unrest?
So vote for him if you wish; it's still a free country. As for me I'd rather crawl over broken glass than vote for the would-be dictator. And I think enough other people feel the same way that we can rid of ourselves of this monster.
10:56 AM
True embodiment of drumpf's magats performing drumpf's bidding....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/12/gisele-fetterman-pennsylvania-verbal-assault/
https://www.livescience.com/why-female-moles-grow-testicles.html
This helps explain why wingnut bitches are coyote ugly, that, plus the fact they have to kiss drumpf's orange skanky ass would make any woman grow a set.
Voting fraud as perpetrated by magats...
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/appalling-criminal-conduct-california-gop-accused-of-operating-fake-official-ballot-drop-boxes/
We know who does what little voting fraud that takes place and its name be stoopid fucking lying wingnuts.
'Nother lying scumbag wingnut....
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/twitter-buries-gop-scumbag-liar-ronna-mcdaniel-for-claiming-82-of-americans-make-over-400000-year/?traffic_source=Connatix
Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...
But what about the more than two-hundred-thousand people dead due to Trump's concern for the stock market and his reelection? He deliberately did nothing between January and March, a time when we could have stopped the virus before it spread out of control
To say he deliberately did nothing is absurd. He very quickly shut down travel from infected areas and got called racist and xenophobic by the Democrats for doing so. He mobilized the procurement of PPE, ventilators, and hospital space to prepare to what was expected to be an overwhelming of our medical resources. We never got to the point anywhere we we didn't have the capacity to take care of sick people.
This was a new virus that nobody had any information on. There was plenty of conflicting advice. Shutting things down like we did has exacted a huge toll on America. If anything, we probably overreacted to a virus that has a very low death rate for the vast majority of people. The US is a huge, diverse country at the center of international travel. It's remarkable that we kept things in check as much as we did.
You blame him for the economic dislocation that came from the response to the virus at the same time you say he did nothing. If you remember, the stock market actually did crash. The economy was doing great up until this Black Swan event that no one saw coming. The whole world was affected.
Our numbers are so high because we do so much testing and conservatively count COVID deaths. The morality by country is heavily dependent on demographics, particularly the age profile of the population. The UK, Spain and Italy have first-world healthcare systems yet have much higher death rates. Do you really believe countries like Russia and China are reporting straight numbers? Do you believe the response of countries like Bulgaria, Pakistan and Nigeria had more effective responses and better healthcare systems to deal with the pandemic?
A real country pulls together when adversity hits. Instead we have an opposition that prioritizes the value of blaming their opponents for natural disasters and pandemics. We are rapidly rebounding to get back and track in what remains a very challenging environment. I have confidence America and the world will overcome this crisis as we have overcome past crises, and I'm glad President Trump chose the course he did given the information he had.
Lilacpr said...
"I would ask why people risk their very lives to get to it's shores and live there and not want to live anywhere else on earth..."
This is an excellent point that doesn't get made enough.
If America is such a systemically racist oppressive society living under the scourge of white supremacism, why do millions of non-white people do whatever they can to get here? They are breaking the law by swimming rivers, climbing fences, and overstaying visas because they crave oppression?
Trump labor department making corporations pay foreign H-1B visa workers "significantly higher than the market rate—which would prevent many employers from seeking foreign talent in the first place”.
Companies can keep bringing in foreign labor to take American jobs if, as they say, they really need them, but they can no longer use foreign workers to drive down wages. The entire H-1B project has been nothing but cheap labor for mega-corporations.
This is a big win for American workers.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/dols-sudden-mandatory-pay-increase-rocks-h-1b-worker-employers
Everyone arrested at last night's BLM protest in Portland was white:
https://twitter.com/KassandraKitson/status/1315396012773650433
Makes you wonder what exactly these protests are about.
To say he deliberately did nothing is absurd.
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No it's not absurd. He even admitted it on live T.V. He said he didn't want to create panic. Meanwhile, what he do back in February to prepare for a potential pandemic? -Nothing, zero, zilch.
Defend him, spin it, whatever but we've had enough of the bloated maniac.
If America is such a systemically racist oppressive society living under the scourge of white supremacism, why do millions of non-white people do whatever they can to get here? They are breaking the law by swimming rivers, climbing fences, and overstaying visas because they crave oppression?
11:52 AM
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Maybe because conditions in their home country are intolerable?
If American racism is so "tolerable", maybe it isn't so bad.
Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...
Defend him, spin it, whatever but we've had enough of the bloated maniac.
In other words, don't confuse the situation with facts, just stick to "Orange Man Bad!"
Anonymous said...
Everyone arrested at last night's BLM protest in Portland was white:
https://twitter.com/KassandraKitson/status/1315396012773650433
Makes you wonder what exactly these protests are about.
12:11 PM
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Why would anyone wonder? We all know it's because many white people support BLM and think black lives are important. Not all white people are raving racists like some people think they are. Racists are a very loud minority who think the country should be run they want it to be run. And they are becoming more violent.
Time for all good men and women to come to defense of democracy.
Anonymous said...
Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...
Defend him, spin it, whatever but we've had enough of the bloated maniac.
In other words, don't confuse the situation with facts, just stick to "Orange Man Bad!"
12:35 PM
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I have repeatedly given you facts, but you ignore them and counter with insults instead of logical arguments. Not once have I said "Orange Man Bad!" I would never say something so silly. What I have said and will continue to say in the future is"Trump is a demon from hell."
Granny you are going to blow a gasket November 3rd.
Corey Booker does not know how our government works. Just like the rest of the democrats.
Lilac, granny is going to start gaslighting you now.
“Everyone arrested at last night's BLM protest in Portland was white”
Dude,it’s Portland. The state of Oregon was created as an all white state.
Well, magats. drumpf got his 8 millionth case of covid and shortly his body count will break 220k deaths. Walk with pride in his incompetence and inattention.
United States
Coronavirus Cases:
8,003,660
Deaths:
219,805
So the concern over black criminal's right to violently resist arrest is cover for some other issue?
Time for all good men and women to come to defense of democracy."
Is burning, looting, murdering and pulling down statues of Abraham Lincoln (as they did again last night) "defending democracy"?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If American racism is so "tolerable", maybe it isn't so bad.
It isn't tolerable. drumpf won't even allow people seeking asylum because he is shoring up his racist base. They make up shit like immigrants taking away jobs for Americans and everybody but stoopid fucking wingnut magats knows Americans won't do those jobs, even with much higher pay. Too much physical exertion for wingnuts.
So the concern over black criminal's right to violently resist arrest is cover for some other issue?
No citizen should be harassed by a sounder of pigs for exercising their constitutional rights to assemble and march peacefully.
It is well documented the violence comes from drumpf's goons and has been so ever since Putin installed drumpf in the kremlin annex.
All you whining magat fucks can do is piss and moan because pigs haven't shot enough unarmed blacks in the back and lied about it.
mike's commitment to prioritizing GDP over people's lives by keeping wages down for the fellow citizens he despises is admirable. Thanks for the support, mike!
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/dols-sudden-mandatory-pay-increase-rocks-h-1b-worker-employers
Of course there are exceptions for Kushner's and drumpf's sweatshops in America. That goes without saying. Another thing, if these visa deals collapse and dio not keep the number of jobs quoted, the loans get repaid and Kushner goes bust.
"It is well documented the violence comes from drumpf's goons and has been so ever since Putin installed drumpf in the kremlin annex."
Never truer word spoken, comrade.
https://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/world-news/hillary-paid-me-tocommit-voter-fraud-and-create-violence-scott-foval-flips-rats-out-dnc-clinton-campaign/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/17/new_okeefe_video_clinton_campaign_dnc_coordinated_with_organizations_to_beat_up_trump_supporters.html#!
https://heavy.com/news/2016/10/robert-creamer-bob-white-house-video-barack-obama-dnc-voter-fraud-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-democracy-partner-wife/
Climate change brought the drought, the drought brought the bark beetles and this is from the "Fuels involved" tab on the InciWeb page about the Creek fire, about four ridges east of here:
"The fire is in an area of extreme bark beetle tree mortality. The fuels in the area consist of large expanses of beetle killed timber, 80-90 percent of the stand. The fuel loading in the timber is estimated at 2,000 tons an acre. The brush in the area is at critical fuel moisture levels. Thousand hour fuels are at 6 percent moisture level."
My dad worked for the US Forest Service in northern California for thirty years, and it didn't used to be like this.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
Joe Biden seems to be malfunctioning. But so does everything that is made in China.
Hell no, damn don't white folks get away with enough shit already? Double hell no!!!!
Project Veritas wisconsin scam videos were selectively edited and O'keefe the known/proven fraud won't release the original vids for comparison. Old debunked bullshit.
If it is Project Veritas it is as phony as a nine dollar bill.
It's all over the web, folks, the Republicans are once again committing election fraud. Check out this article on Crooks and Liars.
"Slate staff writer Mark Joseph Stern called the (Orange County) Register's reporting "incredibly alarming" and said it suggests "appalling criminal conduct by California Republican operatives."
"California Republicans are allegedly creating fake drop boxes and tricking voters into depositing their ballots in them," wrote Stern. "Apparently they're trying to prove voter fraud is real by committing actual election fraud." Orange and Los Angeles counties have been hit hard with this.
https://crooksandliars.com/2020/10/california-gop-accused-posting-fake-ballot
A normal person said...
Granny you are going to blow a gasket November 3rd.
12:54 PM
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LOL! Don't count on it.
Anonymous Scott Foval said...
"It is well documented the violence comes from drumpf's goons and has been so ever since Putin installed drumpf in the kremlin annex."
Never truer word spoken, comrade.
https://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/world-news/hillary-paid-me-tocommit-voter-fraud-and-create-violence-scott-foval-flips-rats-out-dnc-clinton-campaign/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/17/new_okeefe_video_clinton_campaign_dnc_coordinated_with_organizations_to_beat_up_trump_supporters.html#!
https://heavy.com/news/2016/10/robert-creamer-bob-white-house-video-barack-obama-dnc-voter-fraud-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-democracy-partner-wife/
1:53 PM
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Fake news!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Joe Biden seems to be malfunctioning. But so does everything that is made in China.
2:48 PM
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Totally dumb remark. Try to do better by posting some facts. You do know what those are or don't you?
"Project Veritas wisconsin scam videos were selectively edited"
Yes, they "selectively edited" Foval saying the things he said. Genius.
He was fired over it:
"The videos allegedly showed Foval discussing the use of mentally ill individuals to spur violence at political rallies for 2016 Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump. The videos also allegedly showed Foval discussing potential voter fraud tactics to bus voters into right-leaning states. Following the release of the Project Veritas Action videos in October 2016, Foval was fired from his position with Americans United for Change."
The videos feature two men, Scott Foval and Robert Creamer, both of whom ran organizations — The Foval Group and Democracy Partners, respectively — affiliated with the Democratic National Committee (DNC), the central operating apparatus of the Democratic Party.
Through his company Democracy Partners, Robert Creamer appeared to be the “mastermind” behind the strategies discussed in the videos. Although Creamer appears in them less than Foval, Foval talks extensively about his ties to Creamer, gushing at one point “Bob is diabolical, and I love him for it.”
In the videos, Foval bluntly admits that he and Creamer use tactics that are likely illegal, saying, “It doesn’t matter what the friggin’ legal and ethics people say; we need to win this motherfucker” (meaning the national presidential contest). These tactics include paying homeless people and mentally ill people to incite violence at Trump rallies, bussing in out of state voters to cast illegal ballots, and setting fire to black churches in order to blame Trump.
White House visitor logs show Creamer made 340 visits to the White House, with 45 of those meetings including President Obama.
"In one hidden camera video, filmed at Creamer’s Washington, D.C. office, Creamer explains that Hillary Clinton is aware of “all” of his activities, directly or indirectly, and that Democracy Partners has a daily conference call with the Clinton campaign, as well as frequent calls with the White House."
BTW, Creamer is a convicted felon, who committed a $2.3 million in bank fraud in the 1990s. He is also married to Democratic Rep. Jan Schakowsky of Illinois. He was also fired after the release of the videos.
Scott Foval issued a series of Tweets right before his account got suspended where he admitted that "Hillary paid me to commit voter fraud and create violence @DavidCornDC. She is a mob figure herself." And "Burning black churches & blaming opponents to gain votes is not birddogging. That is terrorism. I can no longer support Hillary Clinton."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3850226/Democratic-strategist-steps-post-video-surfaced-purportedly-showing-hired-people-incite-violence-Trump-rallies.html
https://www.americanlibertyreport.com/articles/who-are-robert-creamer-and-scott-foval/
https://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/world-news/hillary-paid-me-tocommit-voter-fraud-and-create-violence-scott-foval-flips-rats-out-dnc-clinton-campaign/
Anonymous Aaron Minter said...
"Project Veritas wisconsin scam videos were selectively edited"
Glad you agree with me. Every O'keefe video ever made has been edited to change the narrative and leave out important context. Every single one. Your sources are bullshit.
The media doesn’t understand the first thing about the “black community” in America. Neither do white politicians. The black community feels that Joe Biden really blew it with his VP pick. Working- and middle-class black women despise Kamala Harris. They all mispronounce her name as “Carmella” Harris (because she’s caramel-colored, i.e. not really black).
Women voters – and especially black women voters – are incredibly empathetic voters. That’s not a criticism. It’s just a fact. Men tend to vote more on economic concerns, while women are more likely to project themselves into the shoes of another woman when considering who to vote for. That’s not a good thing or a bad thing and I’m not judging – it just IS.
Barack Obama enjoyed record-high black voter turnout in 2008 and 2012. Part of the reason why he enjoyed such high support from the black community was because the black female voter turnout was incredibly high. Many of them were not voting for Barack Obama so much as they were voting for Michelle.
The reason why black women voted for Barack Obama was because they could picture themselves in MICHELLE Obama’s shoes. Mrs. Barack Obama.
When black women look at Kamala Harris, they see a light-skinned, aggressive, not-really-black vamp who would make a move on their own husbands, boyfriends or significant others. They see Mrs. Willie Brown.
They’re not empathizing with Kamala Harris, who they see as a gold-digging opportunist who will sell her body to get ahead. Black women voters are empathizing with the pain that California State Assembly Speaker Willie Brown’s wife went through, when he was buying Kamala Harris a BMW and appointing her to state boards with six-figure salaries.
Biden picked the absolute worst possible choice that he could have made in selecting a “black female” running mate. Black women voters don’t consider Kamala Harris to be a member of their community. They know that Kamala Harris herself never identified as a “black” woman until she decided to run for president last year.
I am not suggesting that Trump is going to enjoy some landslide support among the black community in November. He’s not.
But I think that one of the big surprises among all the experts is going to be the tepid black voter turnout that results from “Carmella” being on the Democrat ticket. The overall black voter turnout is going to be surprisingly low, because many black female voters are simply not going to show up on Election Day. It literally causes them emotional pain to think about Kamala Harris in the White House, because they see Harris for what she really is.
When asked yet again what he would do with four more years in the presidency, Fergus basically said that he'd kill more Americans and stay out of prison.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
From NPR....
The videos are edited, and O'Keefe and Project Veritas have a history of selectively — and at times misleadingly — editing their videos. While they have previously posted raw footage, they have not done so with these latest stings.
Another political operative who appears in the video says this is a case of misleading editing. Immigration reform activist Caesar Vargas wrote on Facebook that "they just edited the video to distort the story."
The video shows Vargas appearing to agree to a scheme that an undercover Project Veritas operative is pitching that would involve busing people from state to state in order to vote illegally.
Vargas says, "this is not going to happen this election," but appears to be open to the idea at another point in time. "Can we make something special during midterm elections in 2017," he says.
But it's not clear what Vargas is talking about here. Theoretically, he could be talking about any number of proposals floated during that meeting. "Whatever I told this group is what I tell everyone in public: We fight for our family not for a political party," Vargas wrote on Facebook. "They have a transcript of our conversation to confirm I told them that voting twice was illegal."
Veritas does have the original, unedited videos. Why not man up and turn them over so the truth comes out?
Too little, too late -- Hell no!
Anti-abortion zealot and former speaker does what all hypocritical wingnuts do when they need to abort an unwanted fetus....
https://people.com/health/former-pro-life-speaker-opens-up-preparing-abortion/
Well I have medical problems and recently widowed and any friends of hers will tell her there are no exceptions to abortions includi9ng the life of the mother.
"When asked yet again what he would do with four more years in the presidency, Fergus basically said that he'd kill more Americans and stay out of prison."
Imagine seeing the world through Doug's eyes.
SCAMDEMIC/CONTROLLA VIRUS
https://twitter.com/jonkirbysthlm/status/1315648772828016643?s=09
Blogger mike from iowa said...
Well, magats. drumpf got his 8 millionth case of covid and shortly his body count will break 220k deaths. Walk with pride in his incompetence and inattention.
United States
Coronavirus Cases:
8,003,660
Deaths:
219,805
1:33 PM
Total Bullshit. take these numbers and reduce by 99% and you get a more realistic number.
SCAMDEMIC
CONTROLLA VIRUS
"they just edited the video to distort the story."
How do you 'distort' a video of a guy saying he paid mentally ill homeless people to incite violence at Trump rallies? That he got union thugs to disrupt opposition campaign events?
In what conceivable context is that innocent?
Viewership for NBA finals crashed 70%.
Get woke, go broke.
Biden said he was running for Senate again today. He also forgot what state he was in again.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1315761376166653952
Nancy Pelosi is going to use all these gaffes to remove him from office and make Carmela Kneepads President.
Good times ahead.
Happy Columbus Day!
Imagine seeing the world through Doug's eyes. How does the world look out of drumpf's asshole?
As for drumpf's personalized body count, I will trust science and experts while you quote the shit fer brains drumpf and fake noize.
I'd show you how the videos get selectively edited, but, you ain't smart enough to understand. First i need the unedited original videos. Good luck getting them from O'stoopid fucker keefe.
Read it and weep, anyfuckingmoose. dead Breitbart is where O'keefe learned his editing dirty tricks. That is if you can read.
https://www.journalism.org/2010/07/26/shirley-sherrod-page/
Sherrod helped smoke out the wasicu racists in conservative news and the tea party.
L- said...
When black women look at Kamala Harris, they see a light-skinned, aggressive, not-really-black vamp who would make a move on their own husbandsor significant others. They see Mrs. Willie Brown.
They’re not empathizing with Kamala Harris, who they see as a gold-digging opportunist who will sell her body to get ahead. Black women voters are empathizing with the pain that California State Assembly Speaker Willie Brown’s wife went through, when he was buying Kamala Harris a BMW and appointing her to state boards with six-figure salaries.
Biden picked the absolute worst possible choice that he could have made in selecting a “black female” running mate.
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I have a couple of responses to your comments. First, you pretend to speak for all Black woman. That seems somewhat presumptuous to me especially paragraphs two, four and six. I think your opinions here are demeaning. How many Black women have you spoken to on this topic?
Second, you remarks about how Black women make decisions seems a bit misogynistic, especially your personal analysis of Kamala.. The Black women I know and have known are intelligent, practical, and pragmatic.
Third, "Black women voters don’t consider Kamala Harris to be a member of their community. How do you know this?
They know that Kamala Harris herself never identified as a “black” woman until she decided to run for president last year."
This is blatantly untrue. Californians knew very well that Kamala was a Black women when we voted for her as Attorney General and as Senator She clearly identified as Black.
I find it puzzling that you found it necessary to make these comments here.
And what sources or proof do you have regarding the rummer that Kamala had an affair with Willie Brown? If you have it, please post it.
Anonymous said...
Biden said he was running for Senate again today. He also forgot what state he was in again.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1315761376166653952
Nancy Pelosi is going to use all these gaffes to remove him from office and make Carmela Kneepads President.
Good times ahead.
6:03 PM
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More bull shit from the intellectually challenged right wing troll.
anonymous who obviously never had a class in civics or read the Constitution said...
Nancy Pelosi is going to use all these gaffes to remove him from office.
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Newsflash, Anon! Nancy Pelosi doesn't have the power to remove a president from his office. If she did, she would have removed Trump long ago. LOL!
READ the CONSTITUTION.
wingnuts at Barrett debacle today made up shit as Dems pounded Barrett for he likely vote to throw millions off healthcAre and allow insurance companies to refuse to insure folks with pre-existing conditions.
Nutjobs countered with screAming at Dems non existing attacks on her radical catholicism. Dems never mentioned it and wingnuts talked of nothing else.
“They know that Kamala Harris herself never identified as a “black” woman until she decided to run for president last year."
Man please, Kamala has a large following from the Divine 9 led by her AKA sisters. She went to Howard. Don’t get much Blacker than that. 😆
From Aimee Mann's Twitter feed:
David Avallone
@DAvallone
·
Oct 11
Dear Journalists: it is legal to add seats to the Supreme Court. It's been done before. It will be done again.
Violating the Hatch Act is illegal. Suppressing the vote is illegal. Violating campaign finance laws: illegal.
"Both sides" is a morally bankrupt disease. Get cured.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
US hits record budget deficit.
https://apnews.com/article/financial-markets-financial-crisis-19c8c125d299a402cee3b98704e13f41
COVID relief, dumbass.
Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...
"And what sources or proof do you have regarding the rummer (sic) that Kamala had an affair with Willie Brown? If you have it, please post it."
It is no secret but public knowledge that Kamala Harris slept her way up into California political life by being a very public escort and mistress for California Democrat Kingmaker Willie Brown. Willie Brown is 30 years older than Harris and was very married at the time. It was public. It was an embarrassment.
That is why Kamala Harris, who openly and brazenly slept her way into California Democrat state politics by publicly hooking onto the very married Willie Brown, should matter to all women — regardless of ethnicity, color, religion, or party. Just as, despite the wrong assumptions on which she plays, Harris simply is not an “African American” — her parents are from India and British Jamaica — she likewise is not a woman who rose the way that Americans teach their daughters to achieve. Yes, she went to high school, college, and law school. Good for her. So did zillions of other Americans. And then, with law degree in hand, those other Americans had to prepare résumés, do often-unpaid internships and summer volunteer jobs if not clerkships, interview for entry-level positions, and do the lowest-on-the-totem-pole legal tasks at their new positions for a few years as they worked their way up. It was not as simple as just being a mistress.
https://spectator.org/kamala-harris-willie-brown-women-stereotypes/
Willie Brown, admitted he helped her get her political start, writing in his bloggy San Francisco Chronicle column:
"Yes, we dated. It was more than 20 years ago. Yes, I may have influenced her career by appointing her to two state commissions when I was Assembly speaker.
And I certainly helped with her first race for district attorney in San Francisco. I have also helped the careers of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Gov. Gavin Newsom, Sen. Dianne Feinstein and a host of other politicians."
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Sure-I-dated-Kamala-Harris-So-what-13562972.php
Brown made a cutesy reference to Kamala saying she was going to ticket him for jaywalking, which sounds like overkill, probably the kind of statement someone with a guilty conscience would make, not wanting anyone to know about how she got her office. What's more, Harris has kept virtually all references to Brown out of her numerous memoirs on the market.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/08/willie_brown_admits_it_kamala_harris_slept_her_way_to_the_top.html
Even Snopes, a site that exists to cover for the lies of Democrats, admits the Brown-Harris affair is "partly true" (Which tells you it's so true not even they can lie about it).
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kamala-harris-affair-willie-brown/
Back in 2003, she described her former relationship with Brown in an interview with SF Weekly as an “albatross hanging around my neck.”
“I refuse to design my campaign around criticizing Willie Brown for the sake of appearing to be independent when I have no doubt that I am independent of him — and that he would probably right now express some fright about the fact that he cannot control me,” she told the outlet.
“His career is over; I will be alive and kicking for the next 40 years. I do not owe him a thing.”
Nice.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/11/kamala-harris-ex-suggests-she-politely-decline-being-bidens-vp/
“COVID relief, dumbass.“
Yup, probably should have handled it properly.😆
But keep in mind trump was running up record debt before covid genius.
Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...
anonymous who obviously never had a class in civics or read the Constitution said...
Nancy Pelosi is going to use all these gaffes to remove him from office.
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Newsflash, Anon! Nancy Pelosi doesn't have the power to remove a president from his office. If she did, she would have removed Trump long ago. LOL!
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Nancy Pelosi’s push to create a commission to study the 25th Amendment is a politically transparent power grab designed purely to raise questions about President Trump’s mental and physical health right before Election Day.
It won’t work — and actually could backfire on Democrats if voters think the House speaker is trying to capitalize on Trump’s coronavirus diagnosis.
Pelosi claims the bill has nothing to do with Trump, yet at the same time, she says, “We are reminded of the necessity of action by the health of the current president.”
Right. Suddenly we have to introduce this bill now, but it’s about “future presidents.”
The only future Pelosi is thinking about is her own.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/battenfeld-nancy-pelosi-bill-on-25th-amendment-a-transparent-power-grab/ar-BB19TQWx
If she is not going to use it against Trump, who do think she has in mind?
Keep cackling you evil hag.
Anonymous said....
"Right. Suddenly we have to introduce this bill now, but it’s about “future presidents.”
The only future Pelosi is thinking about is her own.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/battenfeld-nancy-pelosi-bill-on-25th-amendment-a-transparent-power-grab/ar-BB19TQWx
If she is not going to use it against Trump, who do think she has in mind?
Keep cackling you evil hag."
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whoa! So I'm cackling evil hag just because I disagree with you? Who do you think you are anyway?
Your argument stinks. Any bill that Nancy introduces even if passed in the house will die on the Turtle's desk. Mitch is holding a great many bills passed by the house that will never come to the floor of the Senate.
That's one reason Democrats must take back the senate, so something will get done to move the country forward.
'Grim Reaper' Mitch McConnell Admits There Are 395 House Bills Sitting in the Senate: 'We're Not Going to Pass Those." https://www.newsweek.com/mitch-mcconnell-grim-reaper-395-house-bills-senate-wont-pass-1487401'. Mitch won't even bring them to the floor. He's just sitting on them.
If you answer this with insults, try to be more creative. "Evil hag" is kinda childish. LOL!
“Keep cackling you evil hag.“
Racist conservatives aren’t very gentlemanly are they?
Anonymous said....
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kamala-harris-affair-willie-brown/
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this is what I found on snopes:
"What's False
Although Brown was technically still married during the time period that he dated Harris, he had been estranged from his wife Blanche Brown for more than a decade. Harris' first, successful run for office in 2003 happened well after the relationship ended, and Harris sought to distance herself from Brown."
Hey anonymous, at least she didn't pay a porn star for sex like the would-be king Trump.
"Mitch is holding a great many bills passed by the house that will never come to the floor of the Senate."
Of course he his holding back the nonsense from the lunatic House. Thank God the Republicans hold the Senate.
Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...
Hey anonymous, at least she didn't pay a porn star for sex like the would-be king Trump.
You're right, Kamala was the whore in this scenario.
"You're right, Kamala was the whore in this scenario."
You mean that she was an attorney, district attorney, attorney general, senator, and then most likely vice president, and possibly president after that who had sex like a normal human being.
Republicans really shouldn't give anyone any shit for their sex lives, the list of Republican perversion is long and storied.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
"Normal human beings" fuck their boss to get their job?
Joe Biden: "I'm running as a proud Democrat for the Senate"
https://twitter.com/i/status/1315717708734959619
After saying he's running for Senate, a confused Joe Biden tells voters to go to http://IWill.com/Ohio, which is not a real website.
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1315721074420658176
WATCH: Joe Biden can't remember Mitt Romney's name
https://twitter.com/i/status/1315688231384633346
WATCH: Joe Biden misreads the teleprompter: "I got to the Senate 180 years ago"
https://twitter.com/i/status/1309930188730511360
He didn't even realize what he just said.
WATCH: Joe Biden gets confused, touts South Carolina Democrat candidate for Senate as "the next president of the United [States]"
https://twitter.com/i/status/1233939924174299136
Joe Biden in February: “My name’s Joe Biden, I’m a Democratic candidate for the United States Senate.”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1315762733992812545
Senator Hirono at the confirmation hearings performing stupendous feats of staggering idiocy, as is her specialty.
putting pepper flakes on your pizza is more damaging to your lungs than covid if you get one of those fuckers caught in there
I guess going after Kamala distracts us from Pence’s weird ass. Can’t be alone with another woman unless “mother” is there. Now they nominate another religious nut case to the Supreme Court. 😳 I guess religious repression is a thing in the GOP. Maybe that’s why trump is so popular because he’s the only one getting some. 🤔
"Can’t be alone with another woman unless “mother” is there."
Prevents the Christine Blasey-Ford type psychos from derailing your career.
Smart.
"Now they nominate another religious nut case to the Supreme Court."
Why is Amy Coney Barret's Catholic faith an issue when Ruth Bader Ginsburg's Jewish faith was not?
“I am a judge born, raised, and proud of being a Jew. The demand for justice runs through the entirety of the Jewish tradition. I hope, in my years on the bench of the Supreme Court of the United States, I will have the strength and the courage to remain constant in the service of that demand.”
""Normal human beings" fuck their boss to get their job?"
First, he was never her boss (a concept Fergus and Billbarr Buggins have a hard time grasping also), and second, what rock have you been living under for, like, ever? Have you ever had a job?
I think that if we have to have a Barrett on the supreme court, it should be Syd. Sure, he's been dead for fourteen years, and for the last few decades of his life he was seriously crazy, but I can guarantee you that he would never overturn Roe v Wade, strike down the ACA, reverse Obergefell v Hodges or push the country in the direction of a fascist theocracy.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
"Have you ever had a job?"
Unlike you, yes.
And Syd Barret would think you were a fag.
"Republicans really shouldn't give anyone any shit for their sex lives, the list of Republican perversion is long and storied."
And Doug should know.
Actually you and Larry Craig would be the ones who know best.
But speaking of corrupt Republicans, remember Jack Abramoff? He just became the first criminal to plead guilty to breaking a law that was written because of his own crimes.
They got him for wire fraud this time, but Abramoff was also charged with, and pleaded guilty to, violating the Lobbying Disclosure Act in 2017. Congress amended provisions of the Lobbying Disclosure Act in 2007 in part as a reaction to Abramoff’s past conduct as a lobbyist.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
"Why is Amy Coney Barret's Catholic faith an issue when Ruth Bader Ginsburg's Jewish faith was not?"
Because she didn't give speeches and write papers suggesting that, as a justice, she'd issue rulings that would force you to chop off your foreskin and start eating kosher food?
Amy Coney Barrett holds wackadoodle religious views -- which would be perfectly fine, except she thinks the government should make everyone else follow her wackadoodle views.
Doug, who is Larry Craig? More importantly why do I care? That's two simple ones, so don't be a bitch.
https://youtu.be/Pm7cm-IGE3Q?t=476
"Amy Coney Barrett holds wackadoodle religious views"
Ruth Bader Ginsburg: “It’s not a baby; it’s just a clump of cells.”
Our first and most revered republican hero is Senator Bob Packwood who was forced to resign in disgrace after several women accused him of sexual harrassment and sexual assault. I bet most of you are too young to remember when the Senate had the moral authority to threaten a member with expulsion. And that disgraced member had the dignity to resign. I didn't think so.
One of my favorites was actually a pretty good guy. Randy "Duke" Cunningham just wanted to enjoy some of the perks of his position as a player in the House of Representatives. Randy was not really happy with his salary. His tastes ran towards expensive whiskey, cigars and prostitutes with his buddies. Suddenly this all fit into place with his association with defense contractor Brent Wilkes. Randy and Brent used to argue over which one of them would get the prettiest prostitutes. Those guys knew how to live. Using his power as a member of the Armed Forces Committee, the Duke steered some $87 million in government contracts to Brent's financial backers. Did I mention that the Duke was the greatest fighter pilot ace of the entire Viet Nam conflict? Before the scandal and disgrace one of his dog fights with the top Viet Cong pilot was the stuff of legend and required coursework for all of the top gun guys. Damn shame because I like Randy. He opposed torture. I mean it.
These are the old school guys. Then came a string of imitators. Some bright eyes figured out that they could use federal anti-discrimination laws to protect errant congress critters who were caught in sexual pecadillos. It worked like a charm. A little apology, some time off for counseling and there was no need to lose their jobs. Notable among this class of sexual offenders and predators is my personal favorite, Mark "Are You Rock?" Foley. Mark was something of an embarrassment to the new Speaker of the House, John Boehner. Mark liked to send dirty text messages to young, gay pages and every now and then hook up in person. Really fun guy who knew how to party. Boehner, (no pun intended,) put the kibosh, so to speak, on these prurient activities and that was the end of it. But I will always have a special place in my heart for Larry "Wide Stance" Craig. Larry liked to pair up with like-minded individuals in public places such as airport bathrooms. One of the signals was to bump the next guy's shoe with your shoe as you stood in the bathroom stalls. The cops had set up a sting with a really cute undercover blonde policeman. Larry fell for it. Much to the nation's joy, he tried in vain to defend his behavior in court. Everybody was cracking up. Good times.
But special honors are reserved for Louisiana Senator David who only recently retired. I know, I know. All he did was buy whores. That's kinda par for the course for the U.S. Congress, right? But you have to admit, technically it is against the law. I think the whores in Louisiana are a cut above. Televangelist Jimmy Swaggart had a great deal of difficulty leaving them alone. I guess they will do just about anything you ask them to do and still make you feel like a man if you know what I mean. David like to put on diapers for his sexy times. I'm guessing that he would pretend that the prostitute was his baby-sitter. Come on! Like none of you remember the special pleasure of letting the baby-sitter change your diapers? What? Like I'm some kind of weirdo? I was barely three years old!
Yeah. There were some democrats. But the republicans were much cooler.
David Vitter, of course.
Back in the day, Roy Zimmerman had a funny song about the self-righteously Christian and ostensibly anti-gay senator’s interesting public bathroom adventures, called “Larry Craig Is Completely Heterosexual.”
Sadly, I cannot find it online anymore. Who knows, maybe Craig threatened lawsuits if Zimmerman didn’t take it down?
United States
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8 million cases of drumpfuck's disease and 220k+ bodies for drumpf to own.
Vitter was photographed wearing diapers by hookers if memory serves.
Anonymous Do as I say, goy said...
"Amy Coney Barrett holds wackadoodle religious views"
Ruth Bader Ginsburg: “It’s not a baby; it’s just a clump of cells.”
2 truer statements have never been uttered.
I wouldn't cross the street to piss on any wingnut that was on fire or dehydrated and they have no one to blame but themselves. Especially a drumpf family member.
Anonymous said...
Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...
Hey anonymous, at least she didn't pay a porn star for sex like the would-be king Trump.
You're right, Kamala was the whore in this scenario.
11:55 PM
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So I guess you have never had sex with some one who you were not married to? If you have, then you are a whore under your definition of the term
PilotX said....
Anonymous said..
“Keep cackling you evil hag.“
Racist conservatives aren’t very gentlemanly are they?
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Not so much, my friend. I think Anon. is an incel.
to Anonymous 12:29 = 12:34
You could post a hundred Joe Biden gaffs, and we would al still vote for him because he's a thousand times better than Trump to lead our country.
You see, Joe has always been gaff prone, and it means nothing.
You are pretty much wasting your time on this blog.
You mean Joe has always been a joke, and it means nothing to you because Orange Man Bad!
"So I guess you have never had sex with some one who you were not married to? If you have, then you are a whore under your definition of the term"
No my definition is the generally accepted one that having sex for payment is being a whore.
Kamala Harris got her political appointments as payment for having sex with Willie Brown.
Ergo...
"You could post a hundred Joe Biden gaffs"
Just get the video anthology:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1315852795132678145
Well, we had a pretty good run for a while.
https://www.theroot.com/this-has-to-be-the-most-bizarre-trump-story-of-all-time-1845348207
"Why is Amy Coney Barret's Catholic faith an issue when Ruth Bader Ginsburg's Jewish faith was not?"
Because RBG wasn't trying to force everyone to live by her religious beliefs? That's the biggest difference, I'm sure we could find others if we looked even superficially.
'Kamala Harris got her political appointments as payment for having sex with Willie Brown."
Really? Attorney General of California? Senator? VP candidate? I mean Willie Brown, like me, is an Alpha man but he has THAT much sway in the Democratic Party and over voters? Man, that brotha has some juice or maybe this is just another attempt to discredit a woman of color? Or maybe a little of both. LOL
Remember when wingnut heads exploded in fear Obama would instill Sharia law as our last legally elected twice, Potus?
Orange Man Bad!....
10:27 AM
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I see you are back posting your usual nonsense. If you think Trump is a good president in contradiction to the general consensus, then vote for him. It's still a
free country.
PilotX said...
"Because RBG wasn't trying to force everyone to live by her religious beliefs?"
Everyone in America has been forced to live by Jewish religious beliefs for quite some time now.
Anonymous said...
"So I guess you have never had sex with some one who you were not married to? If you have, then you are a whore under your definition of the term"
No my definition is the generally accepted one that having sex for payment is being a whore.
10:30 AM
So it has never occurred to you that perhaps Kamala found Willie attractive and dated him because she liked him? I saw Willie in action once in Sacramento, and he was a bomb! Very attractive man!
BTW, how do you know they were bed mates?
10:30 AM
"Really? Attorney General of California? Senator? VP candidate?"
Those are elected offices. All of her appointments to start her career came through Willie Brown.
The playing dumb act is wearing thin, X.
"So it has never occurred to you that perhaps Kamala found Willie attractive and dated him because she liked him?"
She was 29, he was 60.
He gave her political appointments, she gave him head.
Willie Brown's wife was publicly humiliated.
Watching 80-year old Patrick Leahy and 87-year old Diane Feinstein maunder on about Obamacare and this thought occurs to me: wW have sell-by dates for cartons of milk, why not US Senators?
Everyone in America has been forced to live by Jewish religious beliefs for quite some time now.“
Care to give examples and links?
“Those are elected offices.“
And that’s the point. She seems to be doing fine on her own and very well may become your VP. I mean trump was handed everything on a silver platter by his rich daddy and never worked a day in his life so everyone has help along the way.
I mean let’s look at the situation Kamala is an AKA and bro Willie is an Alpha. Of course he’s gonna look out for her, we tend to do that. Also if he was dating her once again of course he’s gonna look out for her. Just like trump’s dad looked out for him and made sure he didn’t have to serve in Nam. People do favors for each other all the time, Moscow Mitch blocking Merrick Garland? Favor. Let’s not pretend politics isn’t a big reach around.
He gave her political appointments, she gave him head.
Willie Brown's wife was publicly humiliated.
2 statements you can't possibly verify. Better lawyer up, dude.
If Creamer and Foyle's doctored project veritas video had any truth or relevance, drumpf would have been all over this thing since it came out. More O'Keefe bullshit, just like the Omar scam last week.
Ted Cruz is raving and lying at the senate judicial hearing om T.V.
Ted Cruz is on T.V. at the senate judicial committee hearing. He's raving, ranting, and lying his ass off.
Willie Brown's wife was publicly humiliated.
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Willie and his wife had been separated for ten years. How humiliated could she be? Not nearly as humiliated as Trump's two former wives. He cheated openly on both of them. And then there are the hookers he frequents too.
Anonymous said...
She was 29, he was 60.
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And your point is? I saw him during the 1990s when he was about 60. And he was a bomb!
“Remember when wingnut heads exploded in fear Obama would instill Sharia law as our last legally elected twice, Potus?”
Wingnuts aren’t upset about the prospect of living in an undemocratic theocracy. They just insist it be a Christian and not an Islamic theocracy.
Although the latter is preposterous fear, given that Muslims, at roughly 1% of the populace, aren’t in a position to impose their will on anyone, ever. Worrying about the possibility of American Shariah law is like worrying about the possibility of being murdered by a gnat.
“Worrying about the possibility of American Shariah law is like worrying about the possibility of being murdered by a gnat.“
That’s what they’re good at.
Interesting program.
https://www.pbs.org/show/driving-while-black/
Wingnuts aren’t upset about the prospect of living in an undemocratic theocracy. They just insist it be a Christian and not an Islamic theocracy.
So instead we get a Progressive theocracy that imposes the unassailable doctrines of Equality and Diversity, the Original Sin of White Racism, the Apocalyptic myth of Climate Change with divine retribution for sin, and it's ability to punish blasphemy ("hate speech").
Progressivism is the historical mainstream of Protestant Christianity. It is puritanism without God. An areligion, but a religion nonetheless. It escapes the restrictions of the separation of church and state by denying it is a religion. Yet it's dogma thoroughly and completely dominates all of the institutions in our society.
https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2008/06/ol9-how-to-uninstall-cathedral/
Wall Street and Silicon Valley are terrified a populist agenda. Globalist investors demand access Chinese goods made for pennies on the dollar by slave labor. Wall Street really hates free market capitalism and loves corporate cronyism welfare.
Look where Goldman Sachs is putting its money: Firm execs have given $173,000 to Joe Biden and just $11,943 to Donald Trump, which is just a few bucks more than the $11,200 they gave to Caruso Cabrera, the former CNBC anchor whose long-shot bid to unseat AOC was unsuccessful. In 2016, they gave Hillary $169,000 and an additional $675,000 in speaking fees.
“So instead we get a Progressive theocracy that imposes the unassailable doctrines of Equality and Diversity, the Original Sin of White Racism, the Apocalyptic myth of Climate Change with divine retribution for sin, and it's ability to punish blasphemy ("hate speech").“
Oh yeah, kinda sucks to use the courts to maintain equality, fairness and a clean environment that we all share. That’s much worse than being subjected to strict Catholic extreme ideology.🙄
Still waiting for the evidence we’re being subjected to a Jewish ideology.
"Progressivism is the historical mainstream of Protestant Christianity. It is puritanism without God. An areligion, but a religion nonetheless. It escapes the restrictions of the separation of church and state by denying it is a religion."
Because it's not a religion, being based on reason and evidence, not supernatural dogma inscribed in a book by someone who claims to be a prophet.
You just don't like the conclusions, so you fabricate your own phony evidence to reach different ones.
And if the "alternative facts" fail you, well, then it's right back to the the standard tactic of "God says! You must obey him!"
Anonymous said ...
"So instead we get a Progressive theocracy that imposes the unassailable....................."
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Progressive Theocracy = Oxymoron
Huh, what a conundrum. Why might bankers not be fond of Trump?
While I'm sure Wall Streeters very much enjoyed Trump's big fat tax cut, they are also now quite concerned about the long-term growth potential of the economy, because that's where their profits ultimately come from. And their business acumen tells them that Trump being president is terrible for the economy, Trump having proven himself to be an utter moron and all.
This might come as a great shock to you, since Trump keeps telling you what great things he has done for the economy, but I regret to inform you that TRUMP LIES.
Seen several "Driving While Black" youtube videos, PkilotX.
PilotX said...
"Oh yeah, kinda sucks to use the courts to maintain equality, fairness and a clean environment that we all share"
Equality under the law is the proper use of the courts. Enforcing equality of outcome that ignores the reality that all people are not equal in abilities and proclivities is tyranny.
"Fairness" would be a system devoid of special protections for favored classes of people.
We all share in the cleanest environment of our lifetimes. Pollution is not an issue in America. Climate change is an ideological tool that subverts science to push an agenda of societal and economic control. Primitive peoples think the Gods punish man through the weather; so do Progressives.
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