Saturday, February 11, 2023

When diversity and "wokeness" goes wrong.


The link below is a very thought provoking article from Salon. I don't agree with all of it, because I happen to believe that  being "woke" is a good thing. And if we put the right people in place, so is diversity. 

This following paragraph from the article is an example of the author's mindset: 

"Diversity is important. But diversity, when devoid of a political agenda that fights the oppressor on behalf of the oppressed is window dressing. It is about incorporating a tiny segment of those marginalized by society into unjust structures to perpetuate them."

Nice lines. But wouldn't it better if we just made sure that the segment of  the marginalized people we put in those spaces were "woke" enough to understand their assignment? If those officers in Memphis were "woke" they would have never beaten poor Tyre Nichols to death.    

Sadly, woke has become a four letter word that the right has brilliantly manipulated to be a bad thing. It triggers their base in unspeakable ways. Which I guess is kind of the point. 

Their latest hope for a presidential throne, the fascist in chief from Florida, is banking on it, and he is hoping to ride that wave all the way to the White House. 

Anyway, read the article and give me your thoughts. 

[Article here]


91 comments:

mike from iowa said...

I read most of the article, but it went way over my head. It seemed to me Libs got the most blame for these problems and I don't see that in my life. No offense.

Ian said...

I think the author, Chris Hedges, raises some interesting points. But the author also clearly has an axe to grind, and it shows in the Salon piece.

"The engines of white supremacy, which constructed the forms of institutional and economic racism that keep the poor poor, are obscured behind attractive political personalities such as Barack Obama, whom Cornel West called "a Black mascot for Wall Street." These faces of diversity are vetted and selected by the ruling class. Obama was groomed and promoted by the Chicago political machine, one of the dirtiest and most corrupt in the country."
"Identity politics and diversity allow liberals to wallow in a cloying moral superiority, disguising their passivity in the face of corporate abuse, neoliberalism, permanent war and the curtailment of civil liberties."

The axe here is that liberals and their diversity representatives are bad, and if liberals didn't do that but instead were vocal leftists everything would be better.

Diversity targets aren't a fix-all, and I don't think anyone (acting in good faith) promoted them as such. The questions I would ask Chris Hedges if he published at a place with the temerity to allow comments are...
1) have the people you dismiss as "representationalists" been able to make measurable progress and accomplishments for their communities?
2) if these "representationalists" were not in their positions, would the terrible things that you (the author, Chris Hedges) still have occurred or been worse?
3) If the liberals/Democratic party he likes to slag on so much adopted his chosen political views, would it have been able to win elections in a manner enabling it to control policy?

This article isn't terrible, it addresses things that need to be talked about more. Yet I get the feeling that if we had done the *checks article again* nothing he proposes as an alternative, the things he rails against would be worse and the people he complains about would have been white conservatives even more bent on economic exploitation of the poor and marginalized.

dinthebeast said...

I don't know what planet Chris Hedges lives on, but on this planet, if you want to improve things, you have to work at it. Sometimes the work is messy, and never, ever do you get everything you want.
Some of his criticism is valid, but his main rant is wrongheaded. Almost every one of his examples of misplaced diversity has measurably improved the structures in which they work, which by the way are riddled with far-right actors trying to do actual harm to the communities he claims to want to protect.
Also, his repeated use of shibboleth buzzwords undermines his criticism. Calling it "permanent war" doesn't make the underlying security needs that modern militaries are stood up to address any less politically potent.
He does make good points, though. As a life-long lefty, I have to say that his writing reminds me quite a bit of the comment section at Crooks and Liars, where for years I was branded a "corporate dem Hillbot" for the high crime of believing that the Democratic party stood a far better chance of advancing its agenda if it won some elections...
I still stand by what Barack Obama said: "I'll take better every time."

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Anonymous said...

I like all three comments/observations from Ian, dinthebeast, and mike from iowa.

Bloviating Ignoramus said...

What is sad is the left demonstrating yet again their will to lose allowing the Nazis to hijack "woke" and rebrand it as anti-White anti-Christian anti-straight anti-American. You would think just once someone would say Damn Right I'm Woke but no even AOC is shying away from it ... so 20th century.

Don't Say Gay ... Don't Say Don't Say Gay ... Legalized vehicular homicide ... quack surgeon general Ladapo ... Trump is an Insane Clown. DeSatan is just Insane.

field negro said...

All great comments so far, and a lot to chew on. Bringing change is definitely "messy" , as someone commented above. Ideological purity might look good on paper, but it won't bring about change, only pushback.

mike from iowa said...

5th circuit court of appeals, based in Nawlins has taken it upon themselves to try to force federal budget cuts in social programs such as SS, Medicare and Medicaid, etc.

This is the court drumpf and dumbass dubya packed with incompetent magat ideologues.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/02/social-security-medicare-cuts-republican-judges.html

PX said...

“5th circuit court of appeals, based in Nawlins has taken it upon themselves to try to force federal budget cuts in social programs such as SS, Medicare and Medicaid, etc.”

And so it begins.😖

Anonymous said...

Over on Trump’s lame social media platform this weekend, he:

1) Threw a tantrum over Rihanna hosting the halftime show, because she was black. Er, wait, I mean bad. Yeah, that’s it. Bad.

2) Congratulated the victorious Chiefs, who he claimed were from the “great state of Kansas.”

Oof. How many US presidents do you think there have been who did not know where major American cities were located? I count one.

#Dumbest_POTUS_Ever

mike from iowa said...

Steven Van Zandt gave Jamie Raskin a bandana to cover his chemo/bald noggin.

mike from iowa said...

Senator Feinstein not running for re-election 2024. Hope Dems can keep her seat Blue.

Anonymous said...

Senator Feinstein not running for re-election 2024. Hope Dems can keep her seat Blue."

It's California, so ... yes, they definitely can.

The question is really one of whether the Democrat they elect will be great or just kinda lame.

dinthebeast said...

We kind of have an embarrassment of riches in our senate race. Pelosi has endorsed Adam Schiff, and there's no doubt that he'd be a great senator, plus his billboard ad saying "Make Adam Schiff Kevin McCarthy's senator" is pure brilliance, but he's not the only one running. Katie Porter is running and so is Barbara Lee.
Now, just on a "who would be the best senator" basis, that would be a very hard call, but there are also politics to consider: I think Adam and Barbara could win their seats back if they were to fail, but I'm not at all confident that Katie could, and based off that aspect of the race, she's likely to get my vote, even though voting against Barbara Lee feels like a betrayal.
Would I be thrilled to have any one of them as my senator? Yes, I would.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

mike from iowa said...

Speaking of embracing diversity, there is this to celebrate....

For Democrats, part of the goal was to create a more diverse federal judiciary, and there’s no doubt that they’re succeeding: Of the 100 confirmed jurists, 76 are women, and 68 are people of color.

What’s more, as Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer was eager to emphasize yesterday, the Democratic-led Senate has also confirmed more public defenders to appeals courts than any in history.

Fuck racist, wasicu scumbag magats.

dinthebeast said...

The adding of more former public defenders to the bench is, as our president might put it, a big fucking deal.
So the despicable little punk who murdered all of those Black people in Buffalo was sentenced to life without parole after a family member of one of the victims lunged at him in the courtroom.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Anonymous said...

Go woke .....go broke!!!

Anonymous said...

MSU slayings heighten push for national concealed carry rule due to killer negro attack:


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/msu-slayings-heighten-push-for-national-concealed-carry-rule

Anonymous said...

The question is really one of whether the Democrat they elect will be great or just kinda lame.

9:21 PM

democrat=lame

dinthebeast said...

Jeff Jackson on the outrage Olympics:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1625155105937928193

-Doug in Sugar Pine

mike from iowa said...

Interesting tweet, Doug. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

My politics aren't as far left as the author of that article, Chris Hedges. On economic issues, he is a for-real socialist, and all available evidence suggests socialism doesn't work. (As in: It is an extremely unproductive economic system that condemns everyone to a lower standard of living in the name of equality.) He is also an ardent anti-war pacifist, which to me is synonymous with "naive dope," given that there are other bad governments in the world, ones worse than that of the United States, which insist on war, and leave us no option but to give it to them. These are the kind of fools now whining "Why are we being so mean to poor Vladimir Putin? Whyyyyyyy?"

However, with all of that said, Hedges is probably right that the emphasis on putting historically dis-empowered groups into high office does end up acting as a distraction from what I bluntly think are the more serious problems facing the nation and the world. Not that discrimination and bigotry doesn't matter; it's just less of a serious policy problem than the top three: global warming, our hyper-capitalist economic system, and our over-punitive justice system. What Hedges is saying is that there a lot of voters who see "someone like me" has gotten a top job in business or law or government, and feel like "everything is fixed," when in fact nothing is fixed for most people. So diversity hiring for top jobs has the effect of mollifying people, cooling their anger, and keeping them from demanding real policy change that would improve their lives.

Field asked, "But wouldn't it better if we just made sure that the segment of the marginalized people we put in those spaces were 'woke' enough to understand their assignment?" Hedges' implied point would be: These people do understand their assignment. They have often been hired to thwart the kind of changes he would like, as a condition of their employment.

This is most obvious when looking at what Republicans do. They recruit people like Candace Owens, Diamond and Silk, or Herschel Walker, with the express mission of shitting on other black people. But this phenomenon exists among Democrats, too. There are certainly centrist Democrats who go out of their way to recruit pocs, women, and sexual minorities, with the goal of defending the economic status quo. It's something to watch out for.

All of which is to say: What a person will do with power should always be more important than who they are.

Voters should focus on this in the polling booth.

Anonymous said...

Virginia's governor insists the police have to know when you have your period so they can control your uterus.

Hooray for theocracy.

mike from iowa said...

Pence tells Fake Noize that we need to cut SS and Medicare and replace them with an alleged magat better deal for younger workers. No mention of bloated military spending being cut or making the wealthy pay their share of taxes.

Magat better deal for younger workers is likely to be as elusive as magat health care to replace Obamacare all those years ago. Elusive as in non-existent.

mike from iowa said...

Guy who bought Kenosha Killer Kyle's assault rifle and escaped a jail sentence, now serving 6 months in jail for eluding pigs on a motorcycle. He apparently has remorse for buying that killer gun. He blames behavior on alcohol and drugs.

dinthebeast said...

Any bets on whether the witness the special grand jury in Georgia is accusing of perjury is Miss Lindsey? Or Flynn, perhaps?

-Doug in Sugar Pine

dinthebeast said...

The electronically controlled air brakes that would have been required on all railcars that carry flammable or hazardous materials this year might have avoided the derailment in Ohio and subsequent release of tons of highly carcinogenic chemicals if Fergus and Elaine Chao hadn't killed the Obama era regulations.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Anonymous said...

*braking system

mike from iowa said...

Magats are blaming Dems for the train derailment. Biden's infrastructure bill had millions of bucks for railroads and magats refused to go along without cuts to the bill, including for the choo-choos.

mike from iowa said...

ps Guv De Whiner refused to take federal assistance to help pay for cleanup.

Anonymous said...

“Magats are blaming Dems for the train derailment”

Yeah, that’s Republicans’ strategy: blame Biden for literally anything bad that happens, from inflation to Super Bowl losses to jock itch. Doesn’t matter how implausible the accusation; they’re making it.

They have to. They’ve got nothing else. They have no policies — or at least none that normal people would ever want to vote for. And half of them are embarrassing joke politicians, like Lauren Bobo or George Santos.

I am still kind of amazed at the (also Republican—fueled) very silly balloon panic. Apparently, most Americans aren’t aware that China is spying on us 24/7 via satellite and has been for years. Otherwise, how else to explain the furor over one spy balloon being perceived as some massive new threat?

mike from iowa said...

Georgia grand jury found no significant fraud in 2020 election making drumpf a 6X loser in that state.

mike from iowa said...

https://www.rawstory.com/andy-ogles-2659430945/

Another recently elected magat congressvarmint has Santos gaps in his resume. Claims to be an economist, blocked his grades at one school, lied about law enforcement career and who knows what else.

Anonymous said...

Leftists are perpetually unhinged about everything, but especially gun rights. The dirty little secret they refuse to admit is that most mass shooters (outside the realm of the gangbangers that make up most of the statistics) are left-wing wackjobs. Conservatives do not engage in this sort of activity. Leftists are violent agitators and thugs; it is in their DNA.

The fundamental difference is that most of us on the right simply want to be left alone with as little government intrusion as possible, Leftists desire to control every aspect of one’s lives to the smallest detail. When someone opposes that, they react violently. It’s no wonder they react as they do; liberalism is the most soul-sucking, depressing ideology in the history of mankind. Combine that with no self-discipline, and you end up with the Keith Olbermann’s of the world.

dinthebeast said...

Yeah, sure, that's why goddamn Republicans are allowing menstrual tracking apps in search warrants; because they just want to be left alone.
Goddamn Republicans are fucking right wing radicals, there's nothing conservative about them, the "conserving of norms and traditions" has been left to the Democrats by default for years and years, ever since the goddamn Republicans threw a fit and refused to govern en masse.
Gun rights? You mean like how my housemate in Richmond ordered a 1911 with three spare clips and the delivery guy left it on the porch at noon, where it sat until he got home from work at seven?
Things really aren't as your propaganda wants you to to believe they are.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

mike from iowa said...

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/feb/23/claudia-tenney/do-many-mass-shooters-end-being-democrats-rep-tenn/

Fucking lie. Most shooters have no political affiliations.

mike from iowa said...

https://wreg.com/news/local/6-dead-in-arkabutla-ms-shooting-suspect-in-custody/

Wasicu shooter from south has to be a magat.

Anonymous said...

If it's a day ending in "y," Ann Coulter is saying something racist. Her most recent hateful trash talk is aimed at a member of her own party.

Ann Coulter tells Nikki Haley to ‘go back to your own country’ in racist rant against new GOP presidential candidate

Bloviating Ignoramus said...
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Bloviating Ignoramus said...

"What's with the worshipping of the cows? They're all starving over there" - Annorexia

Takes one to know one Annorexia.

dinthebeast said...

From NPR:

Former President Jimmy Carter, the 39th president of the United States, is moving to hospice care. Carter is 98 years old and served as president from 1977 to 1981.

The Carter Center issued this statement:

"After a series of short hospital stays, former U.S. President Jimmy Carter today decided to spend his remaining time at home with his family and receive hospice care instead of additional medical intervention. He has the full support of his family and his medical team. The Carter family asks for privacy during this time and is grateful for the concern shown by his many admirers."

-Doug in Sugar Pine

dinthebeast said...

Another six year old brought a loaded gun to school in Virginia.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Anonymous said...

Unless this couple leave the increasingly dismal theocracy known as Florida to allow the wife to get an abortion, she will have to pointlessly carry her doomed baby to term, only to watch it immediately die.

Florida doctors refuse abortion for woman whose baby is expected to live less than 2 hours

Anonymous said...

Yet another of Trump's very shady friends goes to the pokey.

GOP operative sentenced in scheme to funnel Russian money to Trump campaign

Anonymous said...

And here's another exciting tale of a prepubescent gunslinger.

'Murica.

6-year-old shoots driving grandmother in back in Florida

mike from iowa said...

Every time a woman forced to carry to term dies, a red state guv should be drug out in front of cameras and summarily executed without a trial. I'd prefer all red state guvs be executed at one time, but where is the fun in doing that? Strictly my opinion.

PX said...

“6-year-old shoots driving grandmother in back in Florida“

Great, I’m in Florida now. Not only do I have to watch out for alligators and boas now we have kiddie shooters.😖

mike from iowa said...

https://www.rawstory.com/texas-guns-school/

Let's worry about alleged grownups with guns in schools. Stoopiderintendent left his handgun in bathroom and a 3rd grader found it.

Seems patently obvious who the first gun shot victim should be!

mike from iowa said...

Rumour mill suggests O'Keefe has resigned from Project "Make Shit Up' Veritas.

https://www.rawstory.com/james-okeefe-resigns/

If we could swap O'keefe's health for carter's hospice, what wonderful world this would be.

dinthebeast said...

Biden made a surprise presidents' day visit to Ukraine, and the secret service had a cow...

-Doug in Sugar Pine

dinthebeast said...

From Susie Madrak's blog:

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Luke Bowen, 34, former Texas Right to Life Political Director, pleaded guilty to online solicitation of a minor and has been sentenced to 5 years in prison.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Anonymous said...

“Biden made a surprise presidents' day visit to Ukraine, and the secret service had a cow...”

I mean, the detour to Kiev was a surprise to everyone else, but I don’t think it was a surprise to the Secret Service. They clearly were asked to plan for this.

And if I were heading up Biden’s Secret Service detail, I’d probably have a cow, too. It would seem very dicey to keep the president safe in an active war zone with no U.S. military presence.

I’m not sure why Biden took the risk, to be honest.

dinthebeast said...

"I’m not sure why Biden took the risk, to be honest."

Perhaps to stride down the sidewalk in Kyiv in the daylight while Putin is holed up in the Kremlin and only able to travel by armored train?

Apparently O'Keefe had to go over allegations of his mistreatment of staff and investigations of the theft of Ashley Biden's diary.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

mike from iowa said...

McCarthy gave Tucker the Fucker Carlson 41k hours of 1/6 video evidence from committee hearings. You know fucker has no good plans for these, don't you?

dinthebeast said...

Shouldn't, you know, the DOJ and the public get those videos also? Here comes the GOP ratfucking whitewash of the goddamn insurrection.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

mike from iowa said...

WAPO says O'Keefe out at Project Veritas after internal power struggle, likely over treatmnt of employees. Too bad. So sad.

PilotX said...

Let's have some fun making fun of the GOP's "diverse" candidates. Get ready for the "we can't be racist because Nikki Haley and Timmy Scott are running". Let's ignore the fact that neither of these folks have a snowball's chance in hell of winning. Let's laugh while we can.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/14/nikki-haley-video-states-secede-secession-republican-south-carolina

Anonymous said...

"Let's have some fun making fun of the GOP's 'diverse' candidates. Get ready for the 'we can't be racist because Nikki Haley and Timmy Scott are running.'"

Is Tim Scott running for president? I hadn't heard he was.

Nikki Haley is a covert minority. I don't think she really wants her party to advertise her ethnic background too much, including to fend off accusations of GOP racism. She's a very white-looking Indian and has a white-lady name, so there's probably a bunch of Republican voters who don't actually know she's not of European heritage, and she'd probably like to keep it that way.

Ann Coulter shrieking "Go back to your rat-worshiping country, Nikki!" won't help with that, of course.

Anonymous said...

Ron DeSantis is visiting Chicago. He’s already campaigning for president, though he hasn’t announced it.

The theme of his visit is pro-law enforcement — i.e., there’s no need for BLM; if black people don’t want to end up like George Floyd, they should just stop resisting arrest.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis visits Chicago suburb, slams 'woke ideology’

dinthebeast said...

Project Very-Tass (h/t:Driftglass) will more likely than not just find some even richer and more depraved donors and continue ratfucking like nothing even happened, and O'Keefe will likely do much the same.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

mike from iowa said...

South Duhkota's shit fer brains, worthless part time guv spent the weekend in DC trying to rise her profile and raise cash for 2024 run for Potus.

She is on the record having told constituents over and over she would serve our years as guv if she was re-elected. She has spent so much time out of state her pic is on milk cartons.

Her lege has been passing bills she didn't want and denying her the bills she asked for because she isn't in state long enough to lobby for herself.

mike from iowa said...

Update to my 6:07 PM comment above. McCarthy gave Carlson 41k hours of insurrection video from all angles and Carlson is the biggest Jan 6th propagandist out there. Dems are Fearing for Capitol police safety with Carlson in charge of evidence.

I may have misled people thinking the footage was from the hearings itself.

PX said...

“Nikki Haley is a covert minority. I don't think she really wants her party to advertise her ethnic background too much, including to fend off accusations of GOP racism.“

Too late for that, that’s how she started her presidential run.

Anonymous said...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/18/nikki-haley-racism-woke/

dinthebeast said...

Looks like we won a couple of elections tonight.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

mike from iowa said...

Alaskan magat asks if it would benefit society by having abused kids just die instead of being a burden to society by receiving governmental funds to support them as they deal with the trauma.

Compassionate conservatism at its finest.

https://www.rawstory.com/david-eastman-alaska/

dinthebeast said...

A modest proposal.

Kyle Rittenhouse is being sued again, this time by the one he shot who lived, and Steve Bannon is being sued by his own lawyers for nonpayment.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Anonymous said...

"Kyle Rittenhouse is being sued again, this time by the one he shot who lived ..."

Still waiting for the release of the Kyle Rittenhouse video game, which is intended to raise money to pay his legal fees.

Kyle Rittenhouse ‘Turkey Shoot’ video game lets players shoot creatures that exhibit ‘liberal bias’

Anonymous said...

Makes sure you take your vaccine and boosters. Pump that shit into you...............

Anonymous said...

biden regime really dropping the ball again in East Palestine, OH. Letting Americans suffer while giving aide overseas.

Anonymous said...

“biden regime really dropping the ball again in East Palestine, OH. Letting Americans suffer while giving aide overseas.”

How, pray tell, is he letting Americans suffer in Palestine, Ohio? All the resources of the federal government have already been made available to the residents for environmental testing and cleanup. No more resources would become available if Biden actually went there.

mike from iowa said...

Prior to DeWine's statement on Thursday, Fox News hosts questioned why Ohio has not yet received federal aid.

"Why isn't there federal money now for these people to move?" Jeanine Pirro said during Fox News' The Five this week.

In response, Pirro's co-host Dana Perino said, "There should be, but Governor DeWine has to ask FEMA to come in, and he hasn't done it yet."

Maybe, like drumph, De Whiner made the request in his mind.

Anonymous said...

“‘Why isn't there federal money now for these people to move?’ Jeanine Pirro said during Fox News' The Five this week.”

Jesus, it’s a little early for that, don’tcha think? The EPA is still in the process of assessing the level of contamination. But we’re already suggesting it’s unsafe to live there and everyone needs to move? WTF? This isn’t the Chernobyl meltdown. There’s no reason to automatically assume the area is now so toxic as to be uninhabitable.

These wingnut bloviators are so totally disconnected from the idea of evidence-based decision-making. Every news event is just a partisan weapon to be wielded to help their scummy party to win elections.

*Global pandemic arrives, evidence shows millions will die without social restrictions*

Fox News: It’s just the flu. Ignore it and it will go away.

*Train derails, chemicals spill, level of contamination as yet undetermined*

Fox News: CLOSE THE TOWN! EVERYONE MUST MOVE!

mike from iowa said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWiDS4rgzF4

6 wasicu pigs in Mississippi busted into home of Black brothers, without a warrant, handcuffed the brothers and accused them of dating wasicu women and selling drugs. Cops allegedly tortured both men, waterboarded them, beat them and held guns to their heads for at least 2 hours after the arrests. Finally, a pig shot one brother in the mouth while still handcuffed. The assaulted bro had to have his tongue surgically removed.

FBI and others are allegedly involved in the investigation of the crimes.

dinthebeast said...

Word is that the toxic dirt and water from the Ohio train derailment will be shipped to Texas. No word on whether or not they will will package it and sell it as a covid cure or a limp dick remedy.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

mike from iowa said...

I second the inherent evil of wasicus.

Anonymous said...

“I second the inherent evil of wasicus.”

So how evil are you, Mike? On a scale of one to Darth Vader?

mike from iowa said...

Pretty evil, I'm thinking. I hate puppies and kittens.

mike from iowa said...

A-Butt of Texass wlll likely dummp contaminated dirt in Texass water supply and then blame Biden when Texassns die.

mike from iowa said...

Freshman Alabama men's bb player who delivered a gun to a team mate, which was then used to kill a woman, is allowed to play for Alabama and people aren't thrilled.

Uni said he was a cooperating witness and thus eligible to stay on the team. Sounds more like he had aided and abetted a murder, to me.

mike from iowa said...

Kenosha killer kyle guarantees drumpf jr that George Soros was behind KKK's prosecution. Of course he has no evi dense but is sure of it.

https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-jr-interview-kyle-093436538.html

dinthebeast said...

They're always guilty of the things they accuse others of:

QAnon ‘Meme Queen’ Wants Trump to Help Pedophile Son

February 24, 2023 at 12:43 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 170 Comments

Vice News: “For the last five years, Deborah Sullivan has been at the forefront of the QAnon movement, fighting a non-existent Democratic cabal of elites running a child sex trafficking ring. As the self-described QAnon ‘Meme Queen’ she has produced more than 4,500 memes about the conspiracy, many of them focusing on former President Donald Trump, who she believes is secretly working to save the children.”

“But earlier this month, when Sullivan’s own son was convicted of repeatedly abusing his stepdaughter in Oklahoma City, her passion for ‘saving the children’ seems to disappear. Instead, she defended her son as ‘innocent,’ blasted the justice system as ‘crooked,’ and attacked the 12-year-old girl at the center of the case as ‘a horrible liar.'”

“Now she is appealing to her community of fellow Qanon believers to come to her aide, including a direct plea to Trump himself.”

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Anonymous said...

Chicago's only hope is to elect a white mayor. Black mayors always fail.

Anonymous said...

GO WOKE GO BROKE!!

Gambler2 said...

Mike from Iowa said...

"Senator Feinstein not running for re-election 2024. Hope Dems can keep her seat Blue."
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Rest easy, Mike. The only way the Democrats can lose that senate seat is if they nominate a Republican to run for it. Thankfully, California is solidly blue.

Gambler2 said...

Anonymous said...

Go woke .....go broke!!!

6:07 PM

Go woke and be a kind, loving person who cares about others and tries to save our planet.

Gambler2 said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The question is really one of whether the Democrat they elect will be great or just kinda lame.

9:21 PM

democrat=lame

6:09 PM
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Don't worry about it, Honey. The lamest Democrat is light years better than any Republican. At least we Dems understand the meaning of the word "seized". Apparently at least one Republican in the House of Representatives does not.

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