Monday, August 15, 2011

Strange days, and "The Help" isn't helping.

"Long time ago, back in the mist of time Back when the crystal waters flowed There was a world so strange and so beautiful All life would flourish and would grow
Years went by, time just fell away Love was worshiped like the sun But as we arrive at the house at the waterside We're living in strange times Do dodo do dodo doooooooo
Strange times, strange times"
~Moody Blues~


These are strange times indeed.

Consider the following: An anti Gay republican was accused of trying to get his freak on with a black male prostitute on the Internet. A mega church preacher from Florida was found dead up in a Zoo York hotel room with drugs in his possession. (Hold the offering plate.) WTF is going on with you preachers,lately?  They are shooting at politicians in Brooklyn. (Wait, this isn't Jamaica.) Negroes are hanging from towers in Oklahoma and refusing to come down. White folks in Louisiana love Wal*Mart so much that they are literally masturbating in the parking lot. (Must be all the beautiful people coming in and out...)

I swear, those Moody Blues dudes were right on the money.

OK, speaking of money, The Help pulled in a little over 25 million this weekend. That's a decent opening by any measure. I am sure that most of you are not surprised. There is nothing A-merry-cans love more than seeing those "dignified" blacks of the civil rights era and the white folks who felt their pain telling us about it. 

Over at The Grio the director and producer of The Help was lamenting the fact that some folks are just too critical of the movie:

"theGrio: What made you decide to direct 'The Help?'

Taylor: I am from Jackson, Mississippi, and this story really pulled at my heartstrings and my nostalgic urges. The moment for me, was when Aibileen and Mae Mobely's characters came to life in the manuscript. I was immediately thrust back, to years ago and I thought of Carol Lee, the woman who helped my mother raise me.

Kathryn Stockett had a very similar situation in her adulthood, where she began missing her nanny. It made her start writing short stories that ultimately became The Help.

I knew I wanted to direct the movie, as soon as I read the manuscript. I got the rights to the manuscript a year before the book was even in print. Kathryn had been turned down by 60 agents, and she said "Tate, I have this book, nobody's interested, you can read it if you want." I did read it, and I was immediately blown away.

So you had a black nanny growing up in Jackson, Mississippi?

Yes I did. Her name is Carol Lee. She is still in my life, she came out to the premiere of the movie and walked the red carpet and everything. I put her in the film too. You know the scene where Skeeter goes to the house and all of the maids have come together to help tell their stories? She is the first woman that tells Skeeter that she wants to help write the book.

So is Carol Lee proud of 'The Help?' Does she feel your depiction of maids in Jackson, Mississippi during the 1960's is authentic?

She was so proud of the movie. So thrilled. Absolutely. She has been one of my strongest supporters.

What was your most memorable experience while making this movie?

Every day was a memorable experience. What I remember the most was the sense of joy, that so many friends were together. Octavia Spencer, Allison Janney, and Kathryn Stockett and so many others. We were able to tell this personal story on our homeland and tell it in a way that we felt was accurate...

What do you say to people that say this film did not accurately represent black maids of south during the 1960's?

I want them to tell me, what their version of accurately is. People are being too critical of this film.

It's so perplexing to me. Kathryn set out to write a book not about victims. She wrote a book about four women that were victims of circumstances of their surroundings. The book is about courage and love and integrity, and talking to whom you consider to be your enemy and finding common ground. Kathryn has said, she would never be equipped or interested in writing a historical, fictional account of the civil rights movement. It's just a story. My job as a director and person who is adapting a novel that is a monumental success is not to go take what she did and make is something that it's not. That would be more offensive and wrong. This is art, this is an expression in storytelling, and this is the particular story that we are telling.

I think anyone who sees this movie will feel that Aibileen and Minny are the most courageous, brilliant, smart, and spiritual loving humans on the planet, and oh yeah they have on a uniform. I didn't film these ladies scrubbing toilets.

I didn't want to have a yard man beaten with a crowbar because he went to use a white bathroom. We have seen that, done before and we know it. That takes away time and moments for me to show the layers of these women. Conversely, that's why I had one of the maid, Yule Mae taken off of the bus and beaten with a club. That's not in the book, but I am trying to show that yeah, horrible things happened in the South, but through a character that means something to the storyline. That's filmmaking.

The scene where Viola Davis sitting on a toilet in a garage in 108 degrees, and then a white woman comes out and tells her to hurry up was visually brutal. To me that's worst than seeing a lynching. It just is." [Source]

I am sorry folks, maybe I need some Kumbaya juice or something, but I just can't get behind the whole I took my nanny to the premiere and she was on the red carpet with me thing. The word patronizing comes to mind.

Mr. Taylor talks about the book being about finding common ground, and about the maids being these "courageous" and "spiritual" human beings; which I am sure that they were. But something is missing. And it's the same thing I see missing every time I watch one of these movies about the civil rights era in A-merry-ca. The story is never being told by the oppressed but always the oppressor. The narrative is always the same: Oppressor finds their humanity and helps the oppressed and becomes a hero to us all.

Sadly, I guess it has to be that way. How else are you going to sell 25 million dollars worth of tickets?    





    

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LACoincidental said...

I personally refuse to hand over money to another "Mighty Whitey Saves the Day" movie. And with his explanation - it certainly sounds like "Magic Negroes" too. Not my cup of tea. Rather watch Cowboys and Aliens.

Anonymous said...

Melissa Harris-Perry reviewed this movie a few days ago on MSNBC.

Don't watch this tripe till you have heard her views. You would be embarrassed to see it otherwise.

In other words, this movie is crap.

nipsy said...

"Consider the following: An anti Gay republican was accused of trying to get his freak on with a black male prostitute on the Internet. A mega church preacher from Florida was found dead up in a Zoo York hotel room with drugs in his possession. (Hold the offering plate.) WTF is going on with you preachers,lately? They are shooting at politicians in Brooklyn. (Wait, this isn't Jamaica.) Negroes are hanging from towers in Oklahoma and refusing to come down. White folks in Louisiana love Wal*Mart so much that they are literally masturbating in the parking lot. (Must be all the beautiful people coming in and out...)"

That's not all, a black woman in Atlanta was spotted reading a book that wasn't about a black woman. A black man in Ohio was observed working a job to support his wife and children. And President Obama wondered aloud today if maybe, just maybe, there was some connection between his policies and the dismal economic situation. Also, Joe Biden was allowed to come outside for some exercise as long as he promised not to say anything or relieve himself in the bushes.

Strange days indeed.

LACoincidental said...

The billboards alone turned me off - it like a Hallmark card with two happy maids on the side.

Anonymous said...

stop hating on the Help.who is better at telling a story from a black womans' perspective than a white woman? its not Birth of a Nation,Gone With the Wind or Blazing Saddles but it will do.


LAC
"I personally refuse to hand over money to another "Mighty Whitey Saves the Day"


this is the thanks we get for helping you out.nothing worse than a ungreatful negro.





the seas would stop rising

the earth will heal

hope and change

obama will pay my rent

obama not looking like the messiah these days,eh?


Mildew

Black Butterfly said...

"The scene where Viola Davis sitting on a toilet in a garage in 108 degrees, and then a white woman comes out and tells her to hurry up was visually brutal. To me that's worst than seeing a lynching. It just is."

Really??? He is a dumb ass!

The White Shadow said...

Black Butterfly said...
"The scene where Viola Davis sitting on a toilet in a garage in 108 degrees, and then a white woman comes out and tells her to hurry up was visually brutal. To me that's worst than seeing a lynching. It just is."

Really??? He is a dumb ass!
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Seriously? Have you ever tried to squeeze one out when you're all hot and sweaty? I'd rather be lynched than to have some white woman hassle me in that situation.

field negro said...

Black Butterfly, I wonder how many lynchings he has seen?

Nipsy, I see you have jokes. It looks like the other Nipsy wrote them for you.

Sup La~Coincidental? You and I are seeing I-2-I on this one.

field negro said...

OK, I see that White Shaddow has the same joke writer as Nipsy.

Where are the Anons when you need them?

cecil b demille said...

Here's a little news for you movie-goers.

The Help is NOT a documentary.

It's a feature film made with the primary goal of enriching the people who made it. It's a collaborative effort of people trying to make a movie that will sell the most tickets.

I repeat, it's NOT a documentary.

A feature film has no obligation to present viewers with facts.

sharon said...

I didn't exactly read the book--I listened to the full-cast audiobook. It was pretty clear to me that the real author of the book-within-a-book was Aibileen, not Skeeter. Not that Skeeter isn't smart--the book was her idea--but she's the front woman, just as McCarthy-era blacklisted writers needed a front man in order to keep writing and make a living. It's Aibileen who starts the book with the story of her son's death. It's Aibileen who keeps a diary and writes and edits the chapters of the book with the stories of the other maids. And it's Aibileen who closes the book with thoughts of writing her own book. (Her second book, I claim.) If that doesn't come across in the film--if Skeeter comes across as "Mighty Whitey," then that's just a darn shame, and it's the screenwriter's and director's fault.

Wesley R said...

Field,

The 'Black Experience' isn't what we would like it to be all the time. An example is I have a cousin who goes to jail like he's going to the store. I'm more offended by crap like that then sista's trying to make a living. But I see your point that Hollywood misses those good ole' days.

Anonymous said...

The scene where mold was sitting on a toilet in a garage in 108 degrees, and then a white woman comes out and tells him to hurry up was visually brutal.

He emptied his colostomy bag in his shoe and walked out, making all those squishy noises.

nipsy said...

"Nipsy, I see you have jokes. It looks like the other Nipsy wrote them for you."

I get all my material from the White Shadow. Did you hear that the President was going around the country on his bus tour feeding people? He's passing out Obama sandwiches; one piece of white bread, one piece of wheat bread, and nothing in between.

Rimshot!

akbright said...

I had heard this was a good book, nothing specific, just something about life in the South. I checked it out of the library, started reading, and after the first chapter or so, had to stop. It was offensive to me, and I am a middle aged white woman, living in Alaska.
-needless to say, I won't be seeing the movie.

field negro said...

"I repeat, it's NOT a documentary.

A feature film has no obligation to present viewers with facts."

Cecil b demille, did you say that about Oliver Stone's JFK?

How about "The Insider"? I remember a lot of folks accusing the movie makers of that film of taking dramatic license as well.

nipsy said...

Wesley R said...
Field,

The 'Black Experience' isn't what we would like it to be all the time. An example is I have a cousin who goes to jail like he's going to the store.
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You're telling me. I have a sister who has a baby every time she sneezes.

cecil b demille said...

JFK was NOT a documentary. It was Hollywood/Oliver "I love a conspiracy theory" Stone all the way.

Inside Man? Total fiction.

Even the screenwriter talked about his inspiration for the script.

Why is it so difficult for people to realize Hollywood makes movies to make money, not to win journalism awards.

field negro said...

"Did you hear that the President was going around the country on his bus tour feeding people? He's passing out Obama sandwiches; one piece of white bread, one piece of wheat bread, and nothing in between......

The guy chuckling in the back is nipsy's brother.

Nipsy my friend, you will have to come much better than that. Ask one of these Anons to write some jokes for you. They are usually pretty good.

cecil b demille said...

"The Insider"? Never saw it.

field negro said...

Cecile, I meant The Insider, not The Inside Man. Not your fault, I corrected that previous comment. Although I suspect that you are still sticking with your position.

moms mabley said...

Did you hear that Obama's bus broke down. But the only people he could get on the phone were the people from AA.

Black Butterfly said...

@Field

He did say that he grew up in MS. But he'll never tell, well unless he can turn it into a feel good feature film that is.

This is a feel good movie for white folks, those that truly want to cling for dear life to the lie that they did no harm.

Anonymous said...

i swear on Robert E Lee's grave y'all negros believerate them was the bad ol' days.wouldn't you negros like to go back to the day when you could eat some fried chicken straight out the crisco and not worry about high blood pressure? when watermelons came straight from the fields?when sickle-cell was a white mans disease?



the seas would stop rising

the earth will heal

hope and change

obama will pay my rent

obama not looking like the messiah these days,eh?


Mildew

SS said...

Black Butterfly said...
This is a feel good movie for white folks, those that truly want to cling for dear life to the lie that they did no harm.
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Correction, this a feel good movie for rich white liberals.

The American elite's attitude is that the worst sin is to try to understand race honestly.

The liberal whites who run Hollywood don't actually care much about blacks or other minorities. Nor are they consumed by White Guilt.

They'll never blame themselves, you'll notice, just other white people, ones they already despise (rural, religious, working-class). What they truly care about is claiming social superiority over other whites by demonstrating their exquisite racial sensitivity.

The typical white intellectual considers himself superior to ordinary white people for two contradictory reasons:

a] He constantly proclaims belief in human equality, but they don't;

b] He has a high IQ, but they don't.

To many elite whites, minorities are just useful pawns in the great game of clawing their way to the top of the white status heap.

As Paul M. Sniderman has shown, those with less schooling or lower incomes tend to judge people as individuals, applauding blacks who work hard, remaining skeptical of those who do not, and expressing strong reservations about the efficacy of government programs. By contrast, upper-status whites, like upper-status blacks, speak easily of endemic white racism and want categorical government programs to address it (if with growing doubts as to whether they will make a difference).

mellaneous said...

Field you make a good point. It is true that too often the story of black folks struggles are told by whites. It is an outgrowth of the fact that whites are in the majority and sometimes folks who have gone through so to speak don't always see the value in writing it down.

And that Field is unfortunate!

And unfortunately, the majority has a need to see themselves in the best possible light, for obvious reasons.

Nobody really wants to think of themselves and their group as bad nor do they want to own up to their atrocities. They always want to think "it wasn't that bad."

Its why many folks in the majority discount the struggle that blacks have had to endure. When they say get over they are really saying, it wasn't that bad.

Its also the problem with liberalism. They will help you, but their way.

Notice the director foolishly thinks sitting on the toilet in the heat is somehow more insufferable than watching a lynching. Really!

He will probably want to take that statement back. But it's why the movie has relevance, because some people haven't a clue.

Colonel Sanders said...

mellaneous said....They always want to think "it wasn't that bad."
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Like slavery, I guess.

BrookLyn said...

Hey Field
Interesting article

http://www.good.is/post/shut-up-moby-how-the-but-i-m-a-vegan-problem-is-ruining-progressives/

nipsy said...

mellaneous said...Notice the director foolishly thinks sitting on the toilet in the heat is somehow more insufferable than watching a lynching. Really!

He will probably want to take that statement back. But it's why the movie has relevance, because some people haven't a clue.
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I don't know man, only time will tell how swelter-crapping will match up against watching a lynching. You never know how these things will turn out.

Perhaps the long term relevance of this movie will be the cultural touchstone of intolerably uncomfortable toilet experiences.

Anonymous said...

A little boy got on the bus, sat next to a man reading a book, and noticed he had his collar on backwards.

The little boy asked why he wore his collar backwards.

The man, who was a priest, said, ‘I am a Father..’

The little boy replied, ‘My Daddy doesn’t wear his collar like that.’

The priest looked up from his book and answered, ”I am the Father of many.’

The boy said, ”My Dad has 4 boys, 4 girls and two grandchildren and he doesn’t wear his collar that way!’

The priest, getting impatient, said. ‘I am the Father of hundreds’, and went back to reading his book.

The little boy sat quietly thinking for a while, then leaned over and said, “Maybe you should wear a condom, and put your pants on backwards instead of your collar.”

field negro said...

I have to give it to you Nipsy, you keep trying. It's painful to watch, though. Like a comic on stage having a bad night and it just keeps getting worse.:)

Brooklyn, thanks for that link.

SS@ 12:03 AM, give me more. You were going to some interesting [;aces with your comments. I liked it.

field negro said...

Nipsy, see Anon @ 12:25AM, now that was funny. Anon @12:55 AM, could you do the Field a solid and write some material for Nipsy?

Thanks.

nipsy said...

field negro said...
Nipsy, see Anon @ 12:25AM, now that was funny
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You must be a Henny Youngman fan.

field negro said...

Don't worry moms mabley; I am going to get the President of Anon Inc. to have his people write some stuff for you as well.

Mell. I co-sign with what you said. But Mr. Taylor's comments won't even upset folks. It will go right over their heads. It's that whole trivialization of the struggle thing. Watch, there will be video games of slavery and lynchings soon.

nipsy, what's wrong with Henny Youngman?

BrookLyn said...

Here's what the Association of Black Women Historians has to say about The Help.

http://www.abwh.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2%3Aopen-statement-the-help&catid=1%3Alatest-news

Joe Biden said...

There's an Association of Black Women Historians?

Well I'll be Goddamned.

Sam Ashworth said...

You people crack me up.

mellaneous said...

@Field who said:
"Watch, there will be video games of slavery and lynchings soon."

Oh brother Field as wild as that sounds is not entirely out of the question.

Anonymous said...

Please watch the video from "The Word" with O'Donnell and Melissa Harris discussing "The Help":

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/movies/blog/2011/08/melissa_harrisperry_on_the_hel.html

Anonymous said...

LAC, "I personally refuse to hand over money to another "Mighty Whitey Saves the Day" movie. And with his explanation - it certainly sounds like "Magic Negroes" too. Not my cup of tea. Rather watch Cowboys and Aliens."

Cowboys and Aliens is definitely about Whitey saving the day. So what's your beef with The Help?

LACoincidental said...

Anonymous said...

LAC, "I personally refuse to hand over money to another "Mighty Whitey Saves the Day" movie. And with his explanation - it certainly sounds like "Magic Negroes" too. Not my cup of tea. Rather watch Cowboys and Aliens."

Cowboys and Aliens is definitely about Whitey saving the day. So what's your beef with The Help?

2:07 AM


Yes, Cowboys and Aliens is the lone (white) gunman slinging against injuns..er...aliens. But, no expects is upholding that movie as a lesson race relations. Its a geek fantasy through and through.


The Help, OTOH, is a farce through and through. Its the 'missionary position' of movies - dark savages requiring good hearted white folks to save them. And too many people would see this white wash as gospel truth.

Anonymous said...

"The Help, OTOH, is a farce through and through. Its the 'missionary position' of movies - dark savages requiring good hearted white folks to save them. And too many people would see this white wash as gospel truth."

I doubt anyone would see a 'movie' as the gospel truth, unless they had a need to.

Do you see Perry's movies of Blacks as the gospel truth? That's far more degrading than The Help could ever be.

Blacks will line up Perry's movies, which show Blacks in the worst ignorant light, but complain about The Help as a movie that puts down Blacks.

It's the same old story: we bitch about what the wm is doing to us, yet we say 'nothing' about what we are doing to ourselves..which is 10 times worse. Blacks make me sick with their hypocrisy.

kid said...

Got a good maid story for you Field. A Black woman works for the Griffith family for most of their lives. One day the son made a movie. He made one of the most important movies in cinema history. The maid chastised the son Dwark, ridicule him and quit. That man was D.W. Grifith and the movie "Birth of a Nation" aka "The Clansman". Let's see them make a movie about a maid quitting working for a white racist family in those times. That's took guts.

O/T

I see your racist trolls are getting out of hand.

kid said...

Another problem I have with these "maid" movies is the revisionist view of the movie. White folk wasn't that nice to the help back then. Some now days STILL aren't. I wonder if Fox produced the movie? Fox actually did the new "Planet of the Apes" movie. Is Hollywood trying to tell us something subliminally?

kid said...

@Anonymous 2:52 AM

Eddie Murphy had the rights for August Wilson's "Fences" but it wasn't made. When Spike Lee was in his prime Hollywood wouldn't finance him. Whites don't want to see strong black men standing up to white people. White Hollywood HATES "Do the Right Thing" and "Malcolm X". Hollywood also undercut ticket sales for "Rosewood". Guess which studio Tyler Perry works for? Fox. Another good reason to Boycott them.Fox don't want to see a movie with a strong black man confronting whites, it might start a spark or something.

My word verification is "waken". Remind me of what Larry Fishburn says in "School Days", WAKE UP!

Anonymous said...

Field, The author is being sued by the real life Aibileene, named Aibileen Clark, who has the black nanny for the author's white brother. Do you know about this?

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/17/family-maid-files-suit-against-author-of-the-help/#more-180261

I am a white person and I'd be embarrassed to watch a movie that glorifies this era. It seems completely stupid and insulting to me.

Anonymous said...

"And it's the same thing I see missing every time I watch one of these movies about the civil rights era in A-merry-ca. The story is never being told by the oppressed but always the oppressor. The narrative is always the same: Oppressor finds their humanity and helps the oppressed and becomes a hero to us all."

You obviously missed Malcolm X movie. And a whole slew of Perry's movies about Blacks. Watch them all. You should be pleased.

field negro said...

"It's the same old story: we bitch about what the wm is doing to us, yet we say 'nothing' about what we are doing to ourselves..which is 10 times worse. Blacks make me sick with their hypocrisy."

Wupps, I think this Anon fraud has been exposed. "with THEIR hypocrisy"? Hmmm,I smell a rat.

"Its the 'missionary position' of movies.."

Classic!

Anon. 3:51 AM, I was aware of that. I wish her luck.


"You obviously missed Malcolm X movie. And a whole slew of Perry's movies about Blacks. Watch them all. You should be pleased."

Please see what cecile b. demille said above.

Anonymous said...

Another Flash Rob in Maryland


I really am surprised no kids have had thier robbing career ended prematurely yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bHyug2PvpB8#at=40

TonyP said...

I say watch the movie with a critical eye towards its historical accuracy. It may very well be a good movie, as movie's go, but something tells me it's not to be believed as historically accurate. From what I understand Viola and Octavia bring their A game so I want to support them, but I'm also going to try to use this as a "teachable moment" on race relations and the civil rights movement with some of my White brothers and sisters who are already falling all over themselves with love for this film. We shall see...

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since1982 said...

Looks like Obamacare is going to illegals.Joe Wislon was right.Obama lies.Some posting here owe Joe a apology.

Speaking of Obamacare.

“I have no problem with folks saying ‘Obamacares.’…I do care.”

LMAO.

reverend ponzi schemer said...

The body of Rev. Zachery Tims, Jr., who led an 8,000-member ministry in Orlando, was discovered at the W Hotel in Times Square on Friday.

According to a law enforcement official, police found a glassine envelope with a white powerdery substance inside the right pocket of his shorts.

Tims grew up as a drug addict in Maryland when he was “miraculously saved” according to his website and a memoir published in 2006.

In 1996, he and his wife Riva moved to Orlando, where they founded the New Destiny Christian Center.

As the church grew, it was able to bestow lavish benefits, even giving away cars to members, according to its website.

Tims’s memoir and self-help book, “It’s Never Too Late: How a teenage criminal found his divine destiny and became a successful millionaire and pastor of a thriving church,” released through Charisma House Publications in 2006, sold “fairly well,” moving around 23,000 copies, said Woodley Auguste, the imprint’s director of marketing and publicity.

In 2009, Tims and his wife Riva divorced after he admitted to a year-long affair with a stripper. The couple had been married for 15 years.

cecil b demille said...

tonyP,

When are you going to learn that Hollywood does NOT make documentaries?

The Help is a Feature Film -- made to make money by entertaining.

It's not a lecture in History Class.

Duane Pipe said...

Kid Said..

@Anonymous 2:52 AM

Eddie Murphy had the rights for August Wilson's "Fences" but it wasn't made. When Spike Lee was in his prime Hollywood wouldn't finance him. Whites don't want to see strong black men standing up to white people. White Hollywood HATES "Do the Right Thing" and "Malcolm X". Hollywood also undercut ticket sales for "Rosewood". Guess which studio Tyler Perry works for? Fox. Another good reason to Boycott them.Fox don't want to see a movie with a strong black man confronting whites, it might start a spark or something.

My word verification is "waken". Remind me of what Larry Fishburn says in "School Days", WAKE UP!


Kid, did you just say that Whites won't support "strong black men" standing up to white people?

Why don't those strong black men stand up to white people on thier own two legs instead of leaning on white people to stand up?

Eddie Murphy and Spike Lee both have plenty of money, let them invest in any movie they like, what do white people have to do with any of it?

Duane Pipe said...

kid said...
Another problem I have with these "maid" movies is the revisionist view of the movie. White folk wasn't that nice to the help back then. Some now days STILL aren't. I wonder if Fox produced the movie? Fox actually did the new "Planet of the Apes" movie. Is Hollywood trying to tell us something subliminally?


Kid,
it really does sound as if you are very insecure and don't have very much self esteem mixed in with some delusions of granduer, as well as clearly not knowing or understanding the story. Why in the world would you assume that a movie about Apes becoming intelligent enough to escape and go live in a forest is about you?

Anonymous said...

Reminds me of the 'magick teacher' movies that were all the rage a few years ago. Why not be a pretty white teacher? Or a hawt ethnic teacher?
Just in time for the TeaHadi Fundies to get rid of your non-gawdly self. And yes, they would murder you...except they know society would respond.
Many businesses are like the fictional lemming. They are ardent followers. And getting financed would be easier if you could sell the work as GWTW in the post-war US. When lots of wites had it real good.
We also might wonder who is the Sugar? Since many posters whine and wail about the Soros...they might be interested in seeing who is paying.
Who paid for Sarey, Queen of the Mat-Su? Who funded VeggieTales...Bibleman...or some other poorly written screed?

You-all notice how many wite folk now claim to be Civil Rights people? If they all had come South and actually placed their bodies on the line...the struggle would have been much shorter. Maybe they were too busy being imaginary Viet Nam war vets?
And since when is harassing pregnant women the 'exact same' as being set on by dogs and fire hoses? AfAms and women are using their Constitutional Rights...and others are doing whatever they can to prevent these Rights.

Why are so many wite folks yearning for the Bad Old Days?

Mold

Cleon said...

Good Morning Mold,
I read in the previous post that you were a published author. In reading some of your other comments really am interested in reading your book or paper. Was it a book or a scientific paper that you had published? Could you share it with us, perhaps a link?

Thanks

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since1982 said...

I find some blacks with their "Mighty Whitey Saves the Day" attitude interesting.

Who do blacks turn to when saving a black landmark or establishment?No, not other blacks,but mighty whitey.

Who do blacks turn to when trying to get a movie made?No,not other blacks but mighty whitey.


Blacks don't want to see a "Mighty Whitey Saves the Day" movie.But they love mighty whitey's money.

Anonymous said...

No. I have no desire to be MalkinStalked.

Mold

cecil b demille said...

kid took a double dose of stupid pills last night:

When Spike Lee was in his prime Hollywood wouldn't finance him.

First, you have no ideal what it takes to get a movie financed. Second Spike Lee received financing to make a number of movies that glorified blacks.

Guess what? The box offices sales were low. That's the whole story. If Lee shot movies that brought enough people into theaters, he would have found more backers.

The subject doesn't matter. He could have created a black Dirty Harry who spent his days killing whites on Park Avenue. If there were ticket sales, the money guys would have knocked on his door.

Whites don't want to see strong black men standing up to white people.

When people go to the movies, they want entertainment. Wish fulfillment may be part of it. If it's your wish to see blacks standing up to whites, there's a large number of movies for you to watch.

White Hollywood HATES "Do the Right Thing" and "Malcolm X".

Are you really this dumb? Hollywood loves a blockbuster. Hollywood is not a charity.

Do the Right Thing is still making money, though it was no blockbuster.

Malcolm X was a money-loser. I've seen it on TV. It's boring.

Guess which studio Tyler Perry works for? Fox. Another good reason to Boycott them. Fox don't want to see a movie with a strong black man confronting whites, it might start a spark or something.

Hey moron, it's all about money. If the money guys think an idea will sell tickets, the idea gets financing. Very simple.

But as history shows, no one in Hollywood can predict the popularity of a movie. Most fail at the box office. A handful carry the rest.

Anonymous said...

Willie Sutton.
Isn't that why so many TeaHadi take money from the Kochs? Or the wingnut welfare?
Wonder what TeaHadi do to get their funding...be dancing boys?
Or is it the delight at throwing sous at the self-created poor?
It was the best for the rich...it was the worst for the poor.;)

Mold

amos 'n andy said...

liberal tormentor says:

Who do blacks turn to when saving a black landmark or establishment? No, not other blacks, but mighty whitey.

True. Oh how true. Just look at the Apollo Theater on 125th Street in Harlem.

Or the Negro Burial Grounds in lower Manhattan.

Who's responsible for the African-American section in Barnes & Noble?

Anonymous said...

Cecil, nice point about Hollywood being about the money. They may talk about Art (like the Fwee Marketeers yak about entrepreneurship)...but it is a for-profit endeavor.
If I may, Spike Lee was not funded when he was the 'hawt new thang'. Compare this to the utter fails of certain directors of recent note.
Oh, how does Woody Allen get cash? Most of his work is a repeat of the 1970s material...and his ROI is...for tax dodging.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since1982 said...

Cleon said...
Good Morning Mold,
I read in the previous post that you were a published author. In reading some of your other comments really am interested in reading your book or paper. Was it a book or a scientific paper that you had published? Could you share it with us, perhaps a link?



Mold is a pathological liar.Her depth of knowledge is as shallow has a kids pool.

Cleon said...

Anonymous said...
No. I have no desire to be MalkinStalked.

Mold


Mold,
Sorry is this directed to me? I don't understand, if you are published doesn't this mean you wrote something because you want to share your creative ideas or scientific knowledge with others? What is "malkinstalked"?

Maybe you could just post an excerpt of your published paper or book here so we can get an idea, what was the topic? Fiction? Science? Sure if it is commercially availible you would want sales so maybe we can help.

Thanks

Anonymous said...

You are stalking. No matter how nicely you word the request...it is still invasive. Particularly after I have made it clear that I do not wish to be identified.
Funny how easily you dismiss my wish to remain Anon.
Like my autonomy is of no importance to you.

No thanks.

Mold

BetterMan said...

Anonymous said...
You are stalking. No matter how nicely you word the request...it is still invasive. Particularly after I have made it clear that I do not wish to be identified.
Funny how easily you dismiss my wish to remain Anon.
Like my autonomy is of no importance to you.

No thanks.

Mold


Right, someone bragging about being a published author is Afraid of his own shadow and doesn't want to share what he has written..hahahahaha

Another words Mold is an illiterate dysfunctional lying pusbag who can't even write a coherent sentence or spell correctly and then has the audacity to say he is a published author. Forget it Cleon, this guy is totally insane, every time he rants he claims he had another profession so "he knows"
Just the other day he was a Harvard lawyer, Criminoligist, Pilot, Radio station Owner, Stockbroker, Economist and many more. In fact yesterday he was a teacher who graded papers in one post, then a published author in another. He's a vile insane dude, blow him off.

Cleon said...

I see...strange!!!

Anonymous said...

Butters, nice sockpuppetry. Pretend to be a Nice Guy(tm) then respond to yourself. Having a pity party because your ruse was so transparent.

Show your proof that I am a 'dude'.
And your 'proof' that I am not what I claim...is that you don't beleeve it. Unlike Fundies or wingnuts, beleef is not 'proof' in the Real World.
Must be tough to be so jealous.
And, your list is stuff you made up. Is this lying pathological with you?

The offer for you to attend your local community college still stands.

Mold

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since1982 said...

You are stalking. No matter how nicely you word the request...it is still invasive. Particularly after I have made it clear that I do not wish to be identified.
Funny how easily you dismiss my wish to remain Anon.
Like my autonomy is of no importance to you.

No thanks.

Mold

Funny how you want to tell everyone about how bravey you served in the military.How brilliant you are.Your 13+ jobs.Your multiple degrees.Receiving healthcare all over the world.A published author.

Yet you want to remain Anon.Like we're suppose to take your word as truth.

Foutaise totale.Votre une fraude


Funny how easy it is to expose Liberals.

BetterMan said...

Anonymous said...
Butters, nice sockpuppetry. Pretend to be a Nice Guy(tm) then respond to yourself. Having a pity party because your ruse was so transparent.

Show your proof that I am a 'dude'.
And your 'proof' that I am not what I claim...is that you don't beleeve it. Unlike Fundies or wingnuts, beleef is not 'proof' in the Real World.
Must be tough to be so jealous.
And, your list is stuff you made up. Is this lying pathological with you?

The offer for you to attend your local community college still stands.

Mold

Whatever...we all know who you are..Shut Up Freak.

Anonymous said...

Show your proof that I am a 'dude'.
And your 'proof' that I am not what I claim...

Mold


Show your proof you are what you claim.

YOU made the false claims.You've been outed.

Anonymous said...

LT, what did you expose, exactly? That I decline the whims of sockpuppets? That I prefer my quiet Anonymity? Or that you and your oddly similar to the point of being written by the same wite dude 'friends' all have a obsessive desire to extract a form of revenge for my outing a wite dude? I did offer to allow the person to come clean...confession, if you will.
Essentially, you are miffed that your 'friend' who did the Nice Guy (tm) slant was unsuccessful. Too bad, so sad.
While you are pouting that Life has handed me choices well beyond the ability of Fundies and Teahadi...I chose to encourage others to make the best of the opportunities they have.
Just because you...and your 'friends' are unable to understand...does not mean others are so constrained.
Perhaps you should ask why you and the Imaginaries are never offered anything.

Mold

alicia banks said...

I am appalled at all the blacks who are enraged about a mere film featuring realistic and intelligent black womanist maids…

Who have no issues with how many millions of black women may actually be forced to become maids anew in order to survive hobama and his banksters!!!

Shame!!!!!!!

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Anonymous said...

Silly sockpuppet Troll, the proof of what I claim is within my postings.
Think of the racist 'dog whistles' you use to identify like-nonminded tribesweenies. You don't have to boldly state you are a loser wite with no skills, education or talents and racist stoopidity...you just use the terms that do...TaxBagger, states 'rites', natural law, parasites, Librul.

Mold

BetterMan said...

Anonymous said...
Show your proof that I am a 'dude'.
And your 'proof' that I am not what I claim...

Mold

Nope,Mandinga, Socrates,Mold, VulgarANON and many more. You are right, in your mind, you are all the things you claim and more, much more. To the rest of us, just a pure Freak.

Buh-bye freak.

Anonymous said...

Butters, why is attending your local community college so distressing? The fees are low. The work is not academically demanding. And the staff of educators, unlike the wingnut kind, are there to help you learn.
It is inexpensive, open to all, and a way to see more of the Universe.

Mold

Anonymous said...

Butters, I have never used a sockpuppet. Why are you claiming I do? Yes, I am aware of the wingnut/Con/Teahadi habit of using them...and their encouragement of Troo Beleevers to do so as well. I only post with my moniker.

Community college, dude. They are really great with those not academically gifted and are very helpful.

Oh, if you live in the rurals...most land-grant colleges have distance learning.

Mold

BetterMan said...

Anonymous said...
Butters, why is attending your local community college so distressing? The fees are low. The work is not academically demanding. And the staff of educators, unlike the wingnut kind, are there to help you learn.
It is inexpensive, open to all, and a way to see more of the Universe.

Mold


Not bad Mold, you are starting to improve, granted it was a small paragraph but at least you are trying to be coherent. Small tip, you really don't want to infer others need an education when you aren't even aware you should never start a sentence with "And". I will leave you now to your freakshow.

Buh-Bye again Freak

alicia banks said...

and the same sexist insecure ahistorical black racists whining about "the help"...

never helped themselves buy a ticket to see rebel maids in "sankofa"....bet!

we BETTER brew some rebel tea as diligently as we protest films...asap!!!

cc this to hobama's super congress...and THEIR latina maids!!!

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Moldy Squirts said...

Mold, you're like a persistent case of diarrhea.

I'll bet if you were to take a dose of Immodium, you would instantly turn into a rock-solid turd.

PilotX said...

"The billboards alone turned me off - it like a Hallmark card with two happy maids on the side."

I'm with you on that one dude. I saw the billboard the other day without knowing what the movie was about and thought it was about the worst movie poster I had ever seen. No explanation just some crap about whispers. I need to ask my buddy in advertising his opinion but I can guess what he's gonna say.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since1982 said...

Anonymous said...
LT, what did you expose, exactly? That I decline the whims of sockpuppets? That I prefer my quiet Anonymity? Or that you and your oddly similar to the point of being written by the same wite dude 'friends' all have a obsessive desire to extract a form of revenge for my outing a wite dude? I did offer to allow the person to come clean...confession, if you will.

Mold


?????????????????


You may wish to change the subject.

Revenge?

Not so much.

Exposing you has a troll and internet fraud?

Totally!!!!!!!!


Thats what i do.



p.s.


For those can't understand why California is over 20 billion in debt there's this.

SB432 which will make it a crime for hotels to use flat sheets.Adding at least 15+ million in cost that will hurt business and cost jobs.




Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1982 signs off.

cecil b demille said...

anon 8:19 says:

Cecil, nice point about Hollywood being about the money. They may talk about Art...

Hollywood produces commerical "art". Nothing else. The art is to create a story that people want to see. That's an art.

You're twisting the meaning of "art" when you imply that only Michaelangelo or da Vinci produce it.

...but it is a for-profit endeavor.

That's the ballgame.

If I may, Spike Lee was not funded when he was the 'hawt new thang'.

His first movie -- She's Gotta Have It -- was financed the same way Gus Van Sant financed his first movie -- by begging and borrowing from friends and family, and getting actors to work for free.

Compare this to the utter fails of certain directors of recent note.

Comparisons are irrelevant.

Oh, how does Woody Allen get cash?

His box-office is well understood. There are backers for small, limited-release films with predictable ticket sales.

Most of his work is a repeat of the 1970s material...

Some is. So what? Kraft is still selling the same old cheese.

...and his ROI is...for tax dodging.

Congress has given tax credits to movie-makers. Tax dodging. Nope. Legal tax advantages. That's what Obama wants for everyone, except the people who actually have to carry the weight.

mold is a white male.

Anonymous said...

LT, Danth's Law
If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly.
Unfortunately, the majority of the time, declaring victory is just spin: a last desperate attempt to trick people into believing you came out on top (providing that they don't actually go and read the discussion, of course). Sometimes, the individuals declaring victory may well be convinced that they're right; often they'll have gone into the discussion knowing that they're right and with no possible option that they might be wrong. When combined with the ability to expel someone from the discussion, Danth's Law takes on a more sinister tone - indicating that a group or individual can only defend themselves on their own terms, through the medium of extreme deceit.
-http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Danth%27s_Law
Feel free to search for yourself...:)

Mold

Anonymous said...

Rick Perry is an idiot. So is Bachmann by all accounts. These are people with strong social intelligences, but not a lot of analytical firepower or intellectual curiosity.

They appeal to less educated conservative voters who vote their "gut" and "common sense", and take the mockery and rejection of their heroes' ideas by educated elites as proof of their righteousness. By definition, these less educated voters tend to be lower income as well. A great many of them are almost certainly in that poorer 47% that has no federal income tax liability.

And Perry and Bachmann are the conservative candidates trying to win election by promising to raise the taxes of the very constituency to which they are trying to appeal. None of this would make sense if the issue in question were being determined based on rational self-interest and economic motivation. But it isn't. This is a cultural issue for Perry and Bachmann.

At its heart lies the myth of the white suburban taxpayer being gouged to support blacks and Latinos in urban areas. Even though all the data shows that urban counties pay the bills of suburban and rural counties, and more urban states pay the bills of rural states, still the myth continues. It's so pervasive that you see phenomena like red counties in California wanting to secede to create their own state, using "fiscal responsibility" as a talking point--even though the suburban counties in question are net drains on the state, while the Los Angeles and San Francisco counties from which they want to secede are net providers.

There is a mass delusion in whitebread suburban America that they are the real America, and that they are being oppressed by high taxes to pay for poor minorities, even though the reality is actually the reverse: urban centers pay the bills for parasitic suburban lifestyles, which are ultimately unsustainable socially, fiscally and environmentally.

Matt Taibbi called it best:

It would be inaccurate to say the Tea Partiers are racists. What they are, in truth, are narcissists. They’re completely blind to how offensive the very nature of their rhetoric is to the rest of the country. I’m an ordinary middle-aged guy who pays taxes and lives in the suburbs with his wife and dog — and I’m a radical communist? I don’t love my country? I’m a redcoat? Fuck you! These are the kinds of thoughts that go through your head as you listen to Tea Partiers expound at awesome length upon their cultural victimhood, surrounded as they are by America-haters like you and me or, in the case of foreign-born president Barack Obama, people who are literally not Americans in the way they are.

It’s not like the Tea Partiers hate black people. It’s just that they’re shockingly willing to believe the appalling horseshit fantasy about how white people in the age of Obama are some kind of oppressed minority. That may not be racism, but it is incredibly, earth-shatteringly stupid.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/

Mold

Anonymous said...

They will point out that most majority-white rural, suburban and exurban communities, far from being economic producers carrying the weight of America's taxes on their shoulders, are actually parasitic drains on the economy. And that the economic overlords on Wall St. intend to squeeze them to death just as surely as any inner-city minority community in their relentless pursuit of profit. Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry will lead them happily to the slaughterhouse on behalf of the big money rancher--and they'll go willingly, assuming that the undernourished brown and black cows who are supposedly getting all their food will be the only ones coming out as hamburger.
-Hullaballo

Mold

Duane Pipe said...

Anonymous said...
LT, Danth's Law
If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly.
Unfortunately, the majority of the time, declaring victory is just spin: a last desperate attempt to trick people into believing you came out on top (providing that they don't actually go and read the discussion, of course). Sometimes, the individuals declaring victory may well be convinced that they're right; often they'll have gone into the discussion knowing that they're right and with no possible option that they might be wrong. When combined with the ability to expel someone from the discussion, Danth's Law takes on a more sinister tone - indicating that a group or individual can only defend themselves on their own terms, through the medium of extreme deceit.
-http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Danth%27s_Law
Feel free to search for yourself...:)

Mold


So by posting this are you saying you won some argument? Or making excuses for losing by saying that someone else who won actually lost? Careful, you are going to hurt yourself if you keep trying to really think for the irony is no one here said they won anything, more delusions eh.

Anonymous said...

LT, Danth's Law
If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly.
Unfortunately, the majority of the time, declaring victory is just spin: a last desperate attempt to trick people into believing you came out on top (providing that they don't actually go and read the discussion, of course). Sometimes, the individuals declaring victory may well be convinced that they're right; often they'll have gone into the discussion knowing that they're right and with no possible option that they might be wrong. When combined with the ability to expel someone from the discussion, Danth's Law takes on a more sinister tone - indicating that a group or individual can only defend themselves on their own terms, through the medium of extreme deceit.
-http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Danth%27s_Law
Feel free to search for yourself...:)

Mold

Anonymous said...

Nice piece on Dominionist and Reconstructionist thinkerating.
Rushdoony pioneered the Christian homeschooling movement, as well as the revisionist history, ubiquitous on the religious right, that paints the U.S. as a Christian nation founded on biblical principles. He consistently defended Southern slavery and contrasted it with the greater evils of socialism:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/14/dominionism-michele-bachmann-and-rick-perry-s-dangerous-religious-bond.html

Mold

Dwain DaSink said...

Anonymous said...
They will point out that most majority-white rural, suburban and exurban communities, far from being economic producers carrying the weight of America's taxes on their shoulders, are actually parasitic drains on the economy. And that the economic overlords on Wall St. intend to squeeze them to death just as surely as any inner-city minority community in their relentless pursuit of profit. Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry will lead them happily to the slaughterhouse on behalf of the big money rancher--and they'll go willingly, assuming that the undernourished brown and black cows who are supposedly getting all their food will be the only ones coming out as hamburger.
-Hullaballo

Mold


Have de aliens landed yet? you get anally probed? U like it? Wanna do it agin?

Taylor said...

Matt Taibbi is incredibly, earth-shatteringly stupid. And a narcissist, to boot.

Kenya Dewit said...

Mold Said...
Nice piece on Dominionist ...

Hey I bin to dat cuntry, I luvs me sum santo dominionist women - deys hot

La♥audiobooks said...

I might go to watch the film just for the sake of watching a film.

I'm not taking on some of you black folks about "mighty whitey" etc. There is too much hypocrisy and lack of self-reliance among black folks, as well as selective crucifying in matters such as these. What do you expect?

uptownsteve said...

Why this goober sounds just like George Wallace circa 1968

"The typical white intellectual considers himself superior to ordinary white people for two contradictory reasons:

a] He constantly proclaims belief in human equality, but they don't;

b] He has a high IQ, but they don't."

Well you obviously DON'T believe in human equality and your incessant rants about the inherent inferiority of blacks is evidence.

So what are you bitchin about?

"To many elite whites, minorities are just useful pawns in the great game of clawing their way to the top of the white status heap."

Explain this please although I doubt that you will.

"As Paul M. Sniderman has shown, those with less schooling or lower incomes tend to judge people as individuals, applauding blacks who work hard, remaining skeptical of those who do not, and expressing strong reservations about the efficacy of government programs."

The problem with this is, and you will NEVER get it, is who the fuck are these goobers to JUDGE ANYBODY?

Do your own job, don't worry about anybody else and stop thinking that you are the only ones who pay taxes or that blacks are the only ones who have benefitted from government programs.

La♥audiobooks said...

Btw Brooklyn, thanks for the link.

Oren Jellow said...

supposedly getting all their food will be the only ones coming out as hamburger.
-Hullaballo


I likes hamburger where my hamburger at mold I ordered it 2 days ago service round here sucks, lemme talk to your boss

La♥audiobooks said...

And I forgot to mention how funny that Cecil/No_splazz can change his name, but can't hide the rhetoric.

Tanya Hyde said...

Why this goober sounds just like George Wallace circa 1968

"The typical white intellectual considers himself superior to ordinary white people for two contradictory reasons:

a] He constantly proclaims belief in human equality, but they don't;

b] He has a high IQ, but they don't."

Well you obviously DON'T believe in human equality and your incessant rants about the inherent inferiority of blacks is evidence.

So what are you bitchin about?

"To many elite whites, minorities are just useful pawns in the great game of clawing their way to the top of the white status heap."

Explain this please although I doubt that you will.

"As Paul M. Sniderman has shown, those with less schooling or lower incomes tend to judge people as individuals, applauding blacks who work hard, remaining skeptical of those who do not, and expressing strong reservations about the efficacy of government programs."

The problem with this is, and you will NEVER get it, is who the fuck are these goobers to JUDGE ANYBODY?

Do your own job, don't worry about anybody else and stop thinking that you are the only ones who pay taxes or that blacks are the only ones who have benefitted from government programs.

10:00 AM


Nigga rants wut? Nigga rants wut? Nigga rants wut? Is U angry needs a towel to wipe the tears and droowel frum da keyboard best be careful dey keepin eyes on yo ass if wut u say troo den y u get so pissed wen dey want to cut da welfare u say it hurt da black folk

uptownsteve said...

BTW LaCoincidental I'm with you.

I'm not about to patronize still another "White Savior/Magic Negro" movie.

Or any more Tyler Perry coonery as well.

Go see "The Losers" with Idris Elba and Zoe Saldana.

Black ACTION figures.

Anonymous said...

LT, Danth's Law
If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly.
Unfortunately, the majority of the time, declaring victory is just spin: a last desperate attempt to trick people into believing you came out on top (providing that they don't actually go and read the discussion, of course). Sometimes, the individuals declaring victory may well be convinced that they're right; often they'll have gone into the discussion knowing that they're right and with no possible option that they might be wrong. When combined with the ability to expel someone from the discussion, Danth's Law takes on a more sinister tone - indicating that a group or individual can only defend themselves on their own terms, through the medium of extreme deceit.
-http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Danth%27s_Law
Feel free to search for yourself...:)

Mold

Anonymous said...

Nice piece on Dominionist and Reconstructionist thinkerating.
Rushdoony pioneered the Christian homeschooling movement, as well as the revisionist history, ubiquitous on the religious right, that paints the U.S. as a Christian nation founded on biblical principles. He consistently defended Southern slavery and contrasted it with the greater evils of socialism:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/14/dominionism-michele-bachmann-and-rick-perry-s-dangerous-religious-bond.html


Mold

Anonymous said...

Rick Perry is an idiot. So is Bachmann by all accounts. These are people with strong social intelligences, but not a lot of analytical firepower or intellectual curiosity.

They appeal to less educated conservative voters who vote their "gut" and "common sense", and take the mockery and rejection of their heroes' ideas by educated elites as proof of their righteousness. By definition, these less educated voters tend to be lower income as well. A great many of them are almost certainly in that poorer 47% that has no federal income tax liability.

And Perry and Bachmann are the conservative candidates trying to win election by promising to raise the taxes of the very constituency to which they are trying to appeal. None of this would make sense if the issue in question were being determined based on rational self-interest and economic motivation. But it isn't. This is a cultural issue for Perry and Bachmann.

At its heart lies the myth of the white suburban taxpayer being gouged to support blacks and Latinos in urban areas. Even though all the data shows that urban counties pay the bills of suburban and rural counties, and more urban states pay the bills of rural states, still the myth continues. It's so pervasive that you see phenomena like red counties in California wanting to secede to create their own state, using "fiscal responsibility" as a talking point--even though the suburban counties in question are net drains on the state, while the Los Angeles and San Francisco counties from which they want to secede are net providers.

There is a mass delusion in whitebread suburban America that they are the real America, and that they are being oppressed by high taxes to pay for poor minorities, even though the reality is actually the reverse: urban centers pay the bills for parasitic suburban lifestyles, which are ultimately unsustainable socially, fiscally and environmentally.

Matt Taibbi called it best:

It would be inaccurate to say the Tea Partiers are racists. What they are, in truth, are narcissists. They’re completely blind to how offensive the very nature of their rhetoric is to the rest of the country. I’m an ordinary middle-aged guy who pays taxes and lives in the suburbs with his wife and dog — and I’m a radical communist? I don’t love my country? I’m a redcoat? Fuck you! These are the kinds of thoughts that go through your head as you listen to Tea Partiers expound at awesome length upon their cultural victimhood, surrounded as they are by America-haters like you and me or, in the case of foreign-born president Barack Obama, people who are literally not Americans in the way they are.

It’s not like the Tea Partiers hate black people. It’s just that they’re shockingly willing to believe the appalling horseshit fantasy about how white people in the age of Obama are some kind of oppressed minority. That may not be racism, but it is incredibly, earth-shatteringly stupid.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/

Mold

Black Butterfly said...

SS said:
"Correction, this a feel good movie for rich white liberals."

No correction necessary. I meant what I said and I said what I meant. Rich and liberal whites are not the only culprits. It's rich, low-income, no-income, "liberal", "conservative","tea-party", "no-party" WHITE PRIVILEGED people period that believe just what I said. They would rather die clinging to the idea that they did no harm!

"They'll never blame themselves, you'll notice, just other white people, ones they already despise (rural, religious, working-class)." What they truly care about is claiming social superiority over other whites by demonstrating their exquisite racial sensitivity."

Where exactly do you think today's crop of "elite" came from... the rural, the religious, the working class!

"The typical white intellectual considers himself superior to ordinary white people [no such thing in a white privileged society] for two contradictory reasons:"


"To many elite whites, minorities are just useful pawns in the great game of clawing their way to the top of the white status heap."

That's most whites, engaged in white privilege, in general that are in the great game of clawing their way to the top of the white status heap! That is what white privileged racism is predicated on.

"As Paul M. Sniderman has shown, those with less schooling or lower incomes tend to judge people as individuals, applauding blacks who work hard, remaining skeptical of those who do not, and expressing strong reservations about the efficacy of government programs. By contrast, upper-status whites, like upper-status blacks, speak easily of endemic white racism and want categorical government programs to address it (if with growing doubts as to whether they will make a difference)."

All I can say to this is to read my previous responses because it seems to me that you are still trying to state a difference between the rich white/the poor white, the intellectual white/the uneducated white, the liberal white/the conservative white. If they all readily engage in white privilege THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.

houston, we have a problem with Obama said...

Rick Perry:

Grew up on a farm, was an Eagle Scout, went to Texas A&M, was an Air Force pilot, elected to House of Reps, elected to governorship. Has been in politics for a long time.

Texas has adapted to changing economic times.

Any Rick Perry scandals?

You don't like his church? How can that matter after Obama and his early connection to Islam and his later 20-year connection to Rev Wright, the Nation of Islam wannabe?

mold lives in a colostomy bag.

uptownsteve said...

Mold and Black Butterfly

Keep dropping that truth.

On another point, the anon goober is touching on a common complaint amongst white rightwingers and bigots.

That it is perfectly understandable and indeed normal for whites to hate and fear blacks. We are terrible you know.

They despise white liberals who they feel are being "dishonest" or "racked with guilt".

Or as Mold touched on, the ridculous notion that white liberals use us shiftless lazy criminal blacks to gouge and burden the real Americans, the white working and middle class.

It's a baseless pile of horseshit but every white working or middle class person who has voted Republican in the last 40 years has fallen for it and is worse off for it.

uptownsteve said...

"Any Rick Perry scandals?"

Outisde of being scandalously dumb?

Perry claims out of one side of his mouth to have created 1/3 of the new job in Texas over the last 4 years.

Out of the other side of his mouth, he claims the government can't create jobs.

Duh.

SS said...

"To many elite whites, minorities are just useful pawns in the great game of clawing their way to the top of the white status heap."

Explain this please although I doubt that you will.
---------

"Clawing their way to the top of the white status heap" is, more or less, the only game in town. White solidarity has no appeal to white intellectuals and writers simply because they believe, condescendingly but also fairly accurately, that they don't face significant nonwhite competition. The vast majority of their rivals are other whites.

Thus, America's verbal elite favors affirmative action and illegal immigration—nobody from Detroit or Chiapas is going to take their jobs.

For American citizens on the whole, however, especially for poor African-Americans who desperately need the options provided by having a decent-paying job, illegal immigration is a massive problem.

And affirmative action is paid for by working-class whites.

This is how the ruling white liberal class stays in charge - by playing off everyone else against each other.

SS said...

Black Butterfly said..."All I can say to this is to read my previous responses because it seems to me that you are still trying to state a difference between the rich white/the poor white, the intellectual white/the uneducated white, the liberal white/the conservative white. If they all readily engage in white privilege THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE."

--------

But there is. (See response to uptownsteve above.)

White privilege is a myth. White solidarity is the only kind of ethnic identification that is not accepted in our culture.

SS said...

"By cheering on counterproductive attitudes, making excuses for self-defeating behavior, and promoting the belief that 'racism' accounts for most of blacks' problems, white intellectuals serve their own psychic, ideological, and political interests. They are the kinds of friends who can do more harm than enemies."

Thomas Sowell

Anonymous said...

No wite privelege? How do you explain the Laura Bush walking away from her little accident? Or bush. Or Perry (bush redux).
Wite solidarity...as if the rich will hire you instead of Mexicans. Or that they will prefer your cheap labour over that of Chinese. Are you all obedient submissives like Michelle? Why is the Koch-sucking only one way?

UTS, as much as I would love to accept credit for the postings cited from Hullabaloo...those are other folks. I just like the writing and most of the posters are using very high journalistic standards. Opinion with Fact-checking.


Mold

alicia banks said...

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What maids will clean up the fatal DECADES of political grime/crime that hobama Nazis have used/will use to slime the globe???



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mellaneous said...

Kudos to Mold!

MOld did you write this or is it someone elses commentary. This is really on point in fact that entire post was sharp.

Mold said:

"At its heart lies the myth of the white suburban taxpayer being gouged to support blacks and Latinos in urban areas. Even though all the data shows that urban counties pay the bills of suburban and rural counties, and more urban states pay the bills of rural states, still the myth continues. It's so pervasive that you see phenomena like red counties in California wanting to secede to create their own state, using "fiscal responsibility" as a talking point--even though the suburban counties in question are net drains on the state, while the Los Angeles and San Francisco counties from which they want to secede are net providers.

There is a mass delusion in whitebread suburban America that they are the real America, and that they are being oppressed by high taxes to pay for poor minorities, even though the reality is actually the reverse: urban centers pay the bills for parasitic suburban lifestyles, which are ultimately unsustainable socially, fiscally and environmentally..."

alicia banks said...

the hell trumps "the help"!!!

shame!!!!!!!


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Anonymous said...

Some points...Affirmative Action is not done to the detriment of working class wites...they just beleeverate this bit of paid fibbing. They do lose work to illegals. The Mexicans show up, do the work and don't waste a half-day TELLing me it am their gawd-given 'rite' to smoke on the jobsite.
If the US is truly global, why are the executive and CEO positions largely exempt from the labour arbitrage?
As Paul Sniderman has shown...who is Paul? What does he show? Is this a way to sneak a racist writer into the discussion? As Michelle Bachmann has shown....
I know two Eagle Scouts, both receiving the honour from their immediate kin. bush made pilot. We have seen the grades.
Would you like to live in a Teahadi 'Merica?

Mold

Anonymous said...

Mell, I merely posted it. The source is a blog called Hullabaloo. Take a gander at it.
I've known about the drain on Treasury by the rurals and suburbans for decades. At some nexus, it will end. I am trying to ameliorate the pain and suffering when that occurs.

Mold

mellaneous said...

SS said:

"This is how the ruling white liberal class stays in charge - by playing off everyone else against each other."

While this is true, it is only partially so.

The ruling class is both liberal and conservative, they have both opinions and at various times one tactic works better for them than the other.

But it is true that the ruling class plays us off against one another. Even the illegal immigration issue is a divider.

And of course you are right even a good and necessary social adjustment like Affirmative Action creates division among working class whites and working class blacks.

Anonymous said...

It seems a wingnut is placing words in Paul M Sniderman's mouth...that Professor Sniderman never said.
Wonder why.
Is it to gloss over the racist drivel? Is it to offer a veneer of academic authority to some loser? Or do they hoperate that no poster will check?

Mold

mellaneous said...

@Mold thanks will check it out.

Do I detect that you prefer immigrant workers over native workers. Personally I think everyone who wants a job should be provided one. And yes I know that means we would have to work business out so more of the wealth could be shared. Oops excuse me for cussing.

I know all the white working class Uncle Toms --who kiss the behind of those who exploit us and keep us at one anothers throats-- will now come out and start calling me names.

Anonymous said...

Mell, really? How does Affirmative Action pit whites against blacks? Other than as a ploy? Telling Goober that he lost the job...not because he is a Marcus-style bully...or woefully inadequate in all respects...but because the company jess HAD to give the job to a 'quota'.


Mold

Anonymous said...

lac talkin out his asshole same as kuntlickin banks lac u aint even read that book talkin shit about it ure the same as all those other fools acting like u knows everything cuz wuteva magne mildew is a loser and kuntlickin imbecile over here is a paid lyin sack of shit buceta lickin catcunts!

mellaneous said...

@Black Butterfly who said:

"If they all readily engage in white privilege THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE."


I assume that you were trying to make the point that most white people have racist leanings, which of course makes sense in a racist society.

But make no mistake there is a big and quantitative difference between those who have the power to drop bombs on other countries and bailout banks and those standing in the unemployment line in rural Pennsylvania.

uptownsteve said...

More goober bull$hit

"Thus, America's verbal elite favors affirmative action and illegal immigration—nobody from Detroit or Chiapas is going to take their jobs."

The biggest beneficiaries of AA were white women.

And PUH-LEEZE show me any example of a white being removed from their job so a black could be placed.

More "entitlement" whining from the racist right.

All good jobs are supposedly "their" jobs.

uptownsteve said...

Uncle Thomas Sowell is the racist right's favortie obedient coon.

Nadal said...

mellaneous said..."urban centers pay the bills for parasitic suburban lifestyles, which are ultimately unsustainable socially, fiscally and environmentally..."

This is false. Corporate taxes are paid where corporate headquarters are located, in urban areas. however the actual work is done elsewhere. A much higher average level of subisization is received by urbanites.

mellaneous said...

Mold don't miss my point! I am pro Affirmative Action.

What I am saying is that unconscious white workers can see this as putting black folks ahead of them, which in some cases it is. Because the idea is to give black folks who were left out of certain jobs not because they were not qualified but because they were discriminated against a fair opportunity to now hold these jobs.

But you can see how a lack of understanding of the purpose could cause misunderstanding and resentment.

Anonymous said...

Mell, there are a lot of wites who will TELL you they are wonderful tradespeople...have a work ethic...and are better. I simply illustrate that sometimes...you don't go with the cost difference...but the better labour.
The smoking is from experience. Not only did Goober waste my very expensive time with his rant about his 'rites'...I had to budget for the cleaning of the gawd-given fags. I did not have issues of that nature with the Mexicans that were hired.

Mold

mellaneous said...

Nadal its according to where you live. But check this out. If you own businesses in the city and make your money in the city but live in the burbs,who really benefits the burbs or the city.

I live in a city in which much of the tax revenue that is collected goes to support a sports stadium. Ironically the majority of folks who enjoy this ball park live in the suburbs and outlying rural/suburbans areas.

Nada said...

"I live in a city in which much of the tax revenue that is collected goes to support a sports stadium."

That must be quite a stadium.

Anonymous said...

Nadal, we can read the budgets. Both Federal and State show the same. Rurals and suburbans are subsidized by the urbans. You need to thank FDR for his eveel Socialist sharing of the wealth...otherwise the US would have an older pattern of habitation and work. Oh, cheap oil, energy and labour are over...what will you do?

Mell, have to agree with UTS. Although many whites in rural Pennsyltucky favour Affirmative Action as their scapegoat of choice...there seems to be no actual experience. It is always...my friend has a sister who has a cousin who once knew this guy in Pittsburgh who lost his job to one of them 'urbans'.
I have been looking at this for years...in both the public and private sectors. The vast majority of Affirmative Action beneficiaries are Bristol 'twoBabees' Palin types. Umm..there were also some 'friends' of the manager...both pharmaceutical and 'professional'.

Mold

uptownsteve said...

Mellaneous

A lot of these civil service jobs that now require "testing" only did so once those departments were forced to integrate.

Prior to that most white ethnics only needed to know or be related to someone on the police of fire department in order to get hired.

THEY KNOW THIS.

Nadal said...

"Oh, cheap oil, energy and labour are over...what will you do?"

Vote out the democrats, bringing back oil production and cheap energy, allowing American labor to be competive at good wages.

uptownsteve said...

The Democrats stopped oil production?

WTF??

See. This is the typical Republican voter.

A total dumbass.

Meritus said...

mold....Mell, really? How does Affirmative Action pit whites against blacks? Other than as a ploy? Telling Goober that he lost the job...not because he is a Marcus-style bully...or woefully inadequate in all respects...but because the company jess HAD to give the job to a 'quota'.

-------

Are you seriously that dense?

If the Goobers were let go because they are inferior in your supremacist view, what need is there for AA?

If they are not being let go because they are inferior, then AA is being exacted unjustly.

Which is it, mold?

alicia banks said...

uts:

and that has what to do with ALL applicants passing the same tests????

real men of all races never excuse slackers of any race

u beta male buffoon

Meritus said...

uptownsteve said...
The Democrats stopped oil production?

WTF??

See. This is the typical Republican voter.

A total dumbass.
----

Is this uptownsteve guy for real?

The democrats have impeded domestic oil production for 40 years. They brag about it.

This is just one of the reasons they are headed for disaster in 2012.

Steve will never see it coming.....

alicia banks said...

Hobama/GWB 2.0 is the racist right's most favorite, loyal, and obedient bankster coon prez ever!!!!

BetterMan said...

uptownsteve said...
The Democrats stopped oil production?

WTF??

See. This is the typical Republican voter.

A total dumbass.

1:34 PM


You have got to be either one of the most out of touch people I have run across or just a habitual liar. I don't think anyone could actually be this stupid and wrong on every facet of modern economics and life (Mold not considered as he is insane)

Have you not heard of 4 seperate judges ruling against Obama's federal drilling ban and how Obama continues to defy them? Have you not heard of oil rigs sold to Brazil as they were not in use due to the ban, subsequently Obama providing millions in taxpayer funding to Brazil and then advising Brazil we will be thier best customer?

Are you not aware of what the EPA is doing unconstitutionally to skirt congress and ban coal and gas mining?

Tell me without your usual racism tripe, anger, drooling and other nonsense, that you haven't heard of this and I will gladly supply you links.

You are the typical liberal, angry but completely and totally clueless, nevertheless a willing foot soldier participating in his own demise, getting agitated by things think progress says that he doesnt undertand, precisely because they know you don't understand.

uptownsteve said...

"Are you seriously that dense?"

No, you're a liar.

"If the Goobers were let go because they are inferior in your supremacist view, what need is there for AA?"

That's not what he said.

What he said was that goobers who do lose their jobs because of incompetence often rationalize it by blaming AA.

And often white incompetents get repeated cracks at the apple whereas a black would be black- balled.

See Dennis Miller for Exhibit A.

AB

If you can produce an example of a black who failed a civil service exam and still got hired or promoted then you'd have a point.

But of course you can't, so STFU.

BetterMan said...

uptownsteve said...
Mellaneous

A lot of these civil service jobs that now require "testing" only did so once those departments were forced to integrate.

Prior to that most white ethnics only needed to know or be related to someone on the police of fire department in order to get hired.

THEY KNOW THIS.


Again you have to be a Liar, no one can be so utterly stupid not to get the point when it is in the very words they write. If so, I can't imagine how you could keep a job unless you are nothing more then an AA Qouta.

You are specifically saying that whites invented testing and standards (standards obviously come with testing) specifically to keep the majority of blacks out of these jobs. This as in your words "they know" that the majority of blacks will NOT be able to meet the standards and pass the tests, thereby all the jobs will go to whites who can meet the standards and pass the tests.

Are you stupid, crazy or both? How in the world can you say that Blacks are inferior and tests are designed by racists to keep them out of jobs because you and THEY know that Blacks are inferior?

BetterMan said...

Holy Shit I think he really is this stupid Steve said..

AB

If you can produce an example of a black who failed a civil service exam and still got hired or promoted then you'd have a point.

But of course you can't, so STFU.

Steven, calm down, you are very angry today, perhaps your boss didn't like your AA action excuses and want's results?

Anyway the examples are endless, here is but one:

In New Haven Conn. No Latino or Black Firefighters qualified for promotion, they all failed the tests, white firefighters did not. What did conn do? They threw out the test results as this was disriminatory and NO ONE got promoted. How do we know this story is true?

The white firefighters sued for discrimination and the SUPREME Court ruled in their favor.

uptownsteve said...

Why are you so excited Goober, err BetterMan?

LMAO!!!!!

Oh BTW you're LYING AGAIN fool.

Where did I say the majority of blacks will not be able to meet standards and pass the tests???

If that's the case how are departments like DC and Newark majority black?

My assertion was very simple and I'll go slow for you.

Civil service exams didn't to come into being until these departments were forced to integrate.

You are not going to tell me that those fat drunk Irish cops who patrolled the West Bronx when I was a kid passed any sort of exam.

And calm down fool.

uptownsteve said...

"In New Haven Conn. No Latino or Black Firefighters qualified for promotion, they all failed the tests"

God this moron seems to enjoy being humiliated.

"Ricci v. DeStefano, 129 S. Ct. 2658, 2671, 174 L. Ed. 2d 490 (2009) is a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States arising from a lawsuit brought against the city of New Haven, Connecticut by twenty city firefighters alleging that the city discriminated against them with regard to promotions.[1] The firefighters, nineteen of whom are white and one of whom is Hispanic, had all passed the test for promotions to management. City of New Haven officials invalidated the test results because none of the black firefighters who passed the exam had scored high enough to be considered for the positions. They stated that they feared a lawsuit over the test's adverse impact on a protected minority."

Give them enough rope.... said...

"Protected minority"

You said it yourself, UTS.....(at least you were dumb enough to post it)

uptownsteve said...

Sorry Goober but if you look at the Civil Rights Act of 64, virtually everyone is a protect group.

Ergo, the white firefighters claiming discrimination.

Duh.

Meritus said...

uptownsteve said...The firefighters, nineteen of whom are white and one of whom is Hispanic, had all passed the test for promotions to management. City of New Haven officials invalidated the test results because none of the black firefighters who passed the exam had scored high enough to be considered for the positions.
----

Oh, you are right steve, no BLACK firefighters were smart enough to merit promotion.

One Hispanic was.

Thanks for clearing that up.

BetterMan said...

uptownsteve said...
Why are you so excited Goober, err BetterMan?

LMAO!!!!!

Oh BTW you're LYING AGAIN fool.

Where did I say the majority of blacks will not be able to meet standards and pass the tests???

If that's the case how are departments like DC and Newark majority black?

My assertion was very simple and I'll go slow for you.

Civil service exams didn't to come into being until these departments were forced to integrate.

You are not going to tell me that those fat drunk Irish cops who patrolled the West Bronx when I was a kid passed any sort of exam.

And calm down fool.


Are you a moron? You call me a racist name, hoping I respond in kind so you can say wook, I am da victim, nah, you are a victim allright, but of your own limited intellect. I am not excited or angry, or anything else you are trying to project, unlike you who has been talking angrily for most of the day. I am quite calm and rationale as I don't talk about things over my head like you do.

I also am certain we both know who the "foo" is in this conversation trying to invent things to fit his narrow intellect.

Sigh, like with Mold I don't know why I talk to you, one is insane and the other is insanely stupid.

Are you now telling me that you are so stupid you never heard of the test qualification scores being lowered accross the countryto allow for the increase of minorities qualifying? What city was most recently threatened with a lawsuit by the department of justics if they did not lower standards to that those receiving an F normally would now pass with a F, think that was Dayton.

Say what you will fact remains the Justice department, ACLU, NAACP have all sued on countless occasions claiming that tests were discriminatory against minorites as a not enough Latinos and Blacks could pass them, while whites and asians could, thus many dropped the tests, Louisiana comes to mind right away of a state claiming discrimination that dropped testing completely.

I can spells said...

Now Meritus,

You know very well that being expected to know your ABC's is representative of cultural bias.

uptownsteve said...

LMAO!!!!

Blacks are RUNNING police and fire departments in cities and counties all over this nation.

Keep backpedaling goober.

You've already been revealed to be a fool.

BetterMan said...

uptownsteve said...
"In New Haven Conn. No Latino or Black Firefighters qualified for promotion, they all failed the tests"

God this moron seems to enjoy being humiliated.

"Ricci v. DeStefano, 129 S. Ct. 2658, 2671, 174 L. Ed. 2d 490 (2009) is a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States arising from a lawsuit brought against the city of New Haven, Connecticut by twenty city firefighters alleging that the city discriminated against them with regard to promotions.[1] The firefighters, nineteen of whom are white and one of whom is Hispanic, had all passed the test for promotions to management. City of New Haven officials invalidated the test results because none of the black firefighters who passed the exam had scored high enough to be considered for the positions. They stated that they feared a lawsuit over the test's adverse impact on a protected minority."


I can't deal with you anymore, your stupidity is boundless, do you understand anything you read? You posted no black firefighters passed the test....god help you with your intellect no wonder why you and Mold are such tight butt buddies, as I said one is insane and the other is insanely stupid. Now what is the name of the moron that you felt good about humiliating again? Yourself?

God bless you man, you need it and I highly recommend you get out of taking any wunderkind or similar tests if they ever give you promotional opportunities (AA) at work. It could be very embarassing for you. YOu would have to answer every question with "its the white mans fault"

uptownsteve said...

"Are you now telling me that you are so stupid you never heard of the test qualification scores being lowered accross the countryto allow for the increase of minorities qualifying"

No I didn't.

And neither did you.

You pulled it out of your ass.

And calm down.

Damn you're excitable.

LMAO!!!!!!

uptownsteve said...

BetterGoober continues to drool

"You posted no black firefighters passed the test...."

No idiot, YOU DID.

Remember this from 2:00 PM today from YOUR POST????

"In New Haven Conn. No Latino or Black Firefighters qualified for promotion, they all failed the tests"

Are you into S&M??

Or maybe you're just so pathetically stupid you don't realize how much of a fool you're making out of yourself?

alicia banks said...

dyslexic coon uts:

wtf does your imaginary belated and irrelevant reference to failing a specific test....

have to do with you claiming that all tests generally exist only to make fools like you fail them???

do u even read the bs u post????

ever???

u illiterte shameless beta male moron!!!!

BetterMan said...

uptownsteve said...
"Are you now telling me that you are so stupid you never heard of the test qualification scores being lowered accross the countryto allow for the increase of minorities qualifying"

No I didn't.

And neither did you.

You pulled it out of your ass.

And calm down.

Damn you're excitable.

LMAO!!!!!!


Steve you can stop with your usual blog schtick we both know who the angry dude is here. Does this tactic work for you on others? When you are exposed for the nitwit that you are, deflect by trying to insinuate I am excited angry drooling? Like I said, stop projecting, why would I be upset? Knowing I am me and that I was given certain gifts that you clearly do not possess is enough to keep me enwrapped in a warm glow of thankfulness no matter how much vitriole you spew.

Love ya man, hang in there, maybe your offspring will be better endowed and wont need to be as angry as you are all the time, at least there is always hope.

Keep smilin spanky.

BetterMan said...

OK Steve, to end this silly debate with a man who possesses the IQ of a chipmunk look at Birmingham Al.

It neatly wraps up all the lies and claims in all of your posts today.

Birmingham was successful in promoting blacks at all levels of the fire department. It changed the face of a department, once synonymous with fire hoses and police dogs of the bloody civil rights clashes in the 1960's, into one that more closely resembled the surrounding community.

But it did so in a way that built walls instead of bridges, the appeals court found.

"We've segregated ourselves, informally" said Capt. Charles A. Brush, who heads the white firefighter's union, the Birmingham Firefighters Association. Black firefighters have their own union, the Birmingham Brothers Association.

The affirmative-action program began when Richard Arrington, Birmingham's first black mayor, signed into law a consent decree that began an unbending one-to-one hiring and promotion schedule for blacks and whites.

Developed by the city and the United States Justice Department as an answer to a discrimination suit by black firefighters, the program was heralded at the time as a blow against the racist politics of the past. But it went too far, white firefighters said. Black candidates, however, complained that a part of the program that gave whites seniority points was still unfair because the whites, as a group, had much more time in the department.
Under the program, which reserved slots for blacks, white firefighters who scored consistently in the top 10 on examinations for promotion to lieutenant were routinely passed over to get to black candidates who ranked as low as 87.

For example, in 1983, 95 whites and 18 blacks took a lieutenant's examination, and 89 whites and 9 blacks passed. Two whites and three blacks were promoted to lieutenant.

The city picked the whites who ranked first and second then passed over 76 other whites to promote the three highest-scoring black candidates.

"It became purely race, not merit," said Lieutenant Hatton, who was passed over again and again for promotion even though he scored in the 90's on the 100-point test. Meanwhile, blacks who had scored as low as 48 on the same test were promoted. "It killed our enthusiasm," he said.

Inquiring Minds.... said...

Hey, AB.....you say you're an educator/teacher, so let me ask you a few questions:

When did the practice of "grading on the curve" gain traction in schools, and what is your opinion of this grading method?

BetterMan said...

uptownsteve said...
BetterGoober continues to drool

"You posted no black firefighters passed the test...."



O god, somebody help this angry little chipmunk....the wording in the post you copied this from oh illiterate poor reading comprehensive skills one was that you once again obviously posted something you did not read or more likely could not understand.

Will you please calm down and stop posting in anger, think things through, you are doing the same thing over and over, getting angry and then claiming you are humiliating someone when you are really digging a hole you will never be able to climb out of. You know just like all those economic discussions you were embarassed in, hey by the way, still think the economy is doing great? Unemployment is going down? Nah...lets not go there, you couldnt handle it the first time. It's over that little chipmunk IQ of yours.

But I still Love ya Spanky

alicia banks said...

racist revisionist assnon:

cc that curved bs to a white teacher's blog asap



I challenge McWhorter to spend a day away from the ivory tower that is his campus office. I suggest that he spend a day perusing through the academic file cabinets of white Greek houses where he will locate backdated droves of the exams and papers that impress him so much. I suggest that he spend a day with some excellent international students. (I recommend Africans, Asians, or Jamaicans.). He should hang out in a computer lab with a few Internet wizards. They could download some term papers or theses to dazzle him from websites that are all owned by white students. He should chat at length with them about things generally foreign to all American students, irrespective of race or class. They should discuss things like work ethics, starkly idyllic American dreams, ethnic mentors, and cultural unity.

McWhorter and his ilk intensify racism and oppression by championing the mythical inferiority of African-American students from elite black families who attend elite white academic institutions. I am one of those students. It is why I loathe McWhorter so deeply for his completely libelous, personally offensive, lauded pack of lies!!!!

I want nothing more than to see more African-American students excel academically. Education is the key to success. For four brief years, president select Shrub and his ilk will make success more difficult than ever in every arena. I know the value of superior education because I
have always cherished and been blessed by my own:



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BetterMan said...

I can spells said...
Now Meritus,

You know very well that being expected to know your ABC's is representative of cultural bias.


Thats what the DOJ says, the portion of the test that is failed most frequently is reading and reading comprehension. Not knowledge of law although if you cannot read well enough to understand the lowering of test scores to include those who cannot read, then perhaps that is proof in the pudding. No steve, I am not calling you pudding, I am not Mold, keep that clear.

Anonymous said...

FYI, although it seems no one here would be interested:

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Gold futures finished at a record level Tuesday after climbing $27 an ounce as investors remained on the defensive following weakness in global stock markets and disappointing data on European economic growth. Gold for December delivery rose $27, or 1.5%, to settle at $1,785 an ounce on the Comex division of the New York Mercantile Exchange. The previous closing record was Wednesday's $1,784.30. The Federal Reserve's easing policy and Europe's slowing growth offer "plenty of fuel for the fire to see gold go higher," said Jeffrey Wright, senior analyst of metals and mining equity research at Global Hunter Securities, who has a six-month gold price target of $2,000. September silver climbed 51 cents to end at $39.82 an ounce, but the September contract for copper shed 4 cents to finish at $3.99 a pound.

BetterMan said...

Black applicant protests lowering police entrance exam scores
Community leaders say Justice Department’s demand is ‘a slap in the face to black people.

"Black community says we are not all Uptown Steve we are capable"


http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/black-applicant-protests-lowering-police-entrance-exam-scores-1099043.html

Inquiring Minds... said...

" alicia banks said...
racist revisionist assnon:

cc that curved bs to a white teacher's blog asap


2:48 PM"


Um...OK. So your answer is that you can't, or WON'T answer the questions.

That's really educational.

What the heck does a "white teacher's blog" have to do with anything? Why are the questions "racist", or "revisionist"?

Makes one wonder.

Meritus said...

Better Man: Does this tactic work for you on others? When you are exposed for the nitwit that you are, deflect by trying to insinuate I am excited angry drooling?
----

Steve really stepped in it today.

Good job exposing that blowhard.

I expect he'll be hiding out for a while. Unlike that retard mold, steve is capable of understanding (if not admitting) when he is wrong.

Meritus said...

AB: I want nothing more than to see more African-American students excel academically. Education is the key to success. For four brief years, president select Shrub and his ilk will make success more difficult than ever in every arena.
_______________

President Bush did more to try to improve education for African-American students than anyone has ever done at the federal level.

However, the only way education can be improved is at the local level.

And the only way for African-American students to ever excel is by better parenting.

End of story.

BetterMan said...

uptownsteve said...
BetterGoober continues to drool




Time to go do something productive I am out, don't you have work to do Steven? Or will you just tell your boss he is only giving you a hard time because you are black when he doesnt' like your performance results?. In any case, I leave you with this thought, no matter how racist you are no matter how many times you lean on your racial crutches in order to hobble through life and call others racist names, I will not sink to your level. One doesn't sit long and converse with a chipmunk and maintain his sanity after all.

Again, take care, take a valium and love yourself for who you are, not who you are not. We all have our strengths and I am sure you will find your own someday if you look hard enough.

In fact if I may be so bold, this may help. http://www.readingrockets.org/audience/parents/?gclid=COjn58XA1KoCFY5V7Aod8Gy-3Q

Later Spanky.

Efron Heinemann said...

uptownsteve said...
"Are you now telling me that you are so stupid you never heard of the test qualification scores being lowered accross the countryto allow for the increase of minorities qualifying"


City agrees to lower test scores for police exam

By Lucas Sullivan, Staff Writer
Updated 12:27 PM Thursday, March 10, 2011
DAYTON — The city’s Civil Service Board and the U.S. Department of Justice have agreed on a lower passing score for the police recruit exam after it was rejected because not enough blacks passed the exam.




Although many whites in rural Pennsyltucky favour Affirmative Action as their scapegoat of choice...

Mold

What facts/data lead you to this assumption? Just making shit up like most on the left do?

alicia banks said...

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz is fed up with Washington.

And he is doing something about it.

Spurred by what he describes as a failure of leadership on the part of lawmakers, Schultz is mounting a one-man bull rush against a political culture that has "chosen to put partisan and ideological purity over the well being of the people."
What does that mean? No more political donations -- not for anybody.

And he's recruiting other CEOs to join him.



http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/16/news/economy/starbucks_boycott_washington/index.htm?hpt=hp_c2

Anonymous said...

AB: "i will never be responsible for your academic ignorance."

Hah! You probably flunked out of some podunk community college. I'll bet you never received any merit scholarships or awards in your life!

alicia banks said...

kosher kkk needs slaps:

omg

file under pookie parents with axes

shame!!!!

A father has admitted to chopping his son's head off with a meat cleaver and leaving it in the roadside outside his home so that the child's mother would see it.

A passing motorist saw the decapitated head of seven-year-old Jori Lirette, from Louisiana, and alerted police.


Detectives later found the boy's body in a rubbish sack that had been dumped nearby.


The boy's father, 30-year-old Jeremiah Lee Wright, is alleged to have confessed to decapitating his son.


Jori was wheelchair bound and needed a feeding tube having been born with cerebral palsy.

Wright is said to have told police that he did it because 'he'd gotten to the point where he was tired of taking care' of the boy',

Police Chief Scott Silverii said: 'He told us when he put his head out by the side of the road it was so the mother would see it when she came by.'

He said Wright's only explanation for doing so was 'just that he wanted her to feel stupid when she saw the head'.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2026318/Jeremiah-Lee-Wright-decapitated-cerebral-palsy-son-Jori-Lirette-7-meat-cleaver.html#ixzz1VDoitdcm

alicia banks said...

uneducated hater assnon:

i have graduated with only the highest academic honors all of my life since i was a 12 yr old undergrad at uiuc...

u r late u lying loser!

got curved envy?


fix that asap here:

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UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS AT LITTLE ROCK
Master of Arts Degree
Interpersonal & Organizational Communication
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1980-1984
UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS AT URBANA-CHAMPAIGN
Bachelor of Arts Degree
Speech Communications & Pre-Law

2004-2006
ARKANSAS DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION
Arkansas Teacher’s License
NON-TRADITIONAL TEACHER LICENSURE
PRAXIS III SCORE = 57/57

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Who's Who Among African-Americans 2001

University of Arkansas at Little Rock MAIOC
Summa Cum Laude - 4.0 Cumulative GPA 2001

University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
Trailblazer Award 1996

Outstanding Young Woman of America 1986

Who's Who Among Students in American Universities
& Colleges 1984

UIUC Dean's List 1984

UIUC Senior 100 Honorary 1984

UIUC Black Alumni Association Earl Dickerson Achievement
Award 1983

UIUC Black Alumni Association Potential Leadership Award 1982

UIUC 5.0 GPA Award 1982

[Numerous Additional Academic & Occupational Awards]

Alice Savingnloans said...

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Who’s Who of Excessively Large Nipples 1993

Outstanding KMart Shopper of America 1986

Who's Who Among people Who use Public Transportation 1984

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Anonymous said...

Alice Savingnloans said...
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Anonymous said...

Hmmm...because I have heard the wite Pennsyltuckians boo-hoo in their beers about the eveel Affirmative Action stealerating their jobs. What part of 'pass-for' escapes you/

UTS, although I am forever cursed/blessed to write like a dead white man...the gender is female.

Butters, again with the sockpuppets! One might begin to think you are one of the paid wingnut Fifth Columnists. Anyway, your beloved Standardized Tests were created to reduce the number of icky nasty really smart urban folk. Seems the bush Legacy lads of that time were just as useless.

What did George Herbert Walker Bush do for AfAm education? bush made it worse...so you either are lying...or pretending. NCLB is an utter failure at educating citizens. However, it is wonderful at its design, to transfer funds from public schools and ship the cash to racist religio/charter/cyber skools.

The use of Civil Service Exams has been to exclude AfAms...many who attended horrible Southern schools. Separate but unequal has consequences.

One might also ask what the test measures. Is it the ability to perform on an exam? Is it that one knows the 'correct' middle or upper class answer?
Many of the tests were written by Southern racists. Might they not have an agenda? How many students know what a chukker is? Or clothes press?

You might be more valid if you whined as much about Legacies. All the pouty poor wite me...but not one word about the spaces set aside for bush or Quayle or Santorum....

Mold

Anonymous said...

The Obama regime is getting more pathetic by the day. Now The sec of agriculure is claiming the historical number of people needing foodstamps and help is creating jobs.

Add this to the moronic claim that unemployment creates jobs and Obamas idea for job growth and reducing unemployment by giving those unemployed a payroll tax deduction.

I know, I have the solution to unemployment and increasing dependance on foodstamps, everyone quit your jobs and we all will get a payroll tax exemption (shh, I know there isn't any payroll when you dont work but don't tell Obama) foodstamps and unemployment and the economy will be booming, unemployment won't matter....woo-hoo.

Using democratic math it is a surefire way to boost the economy, pelosi says for every 1$ paid in unemployment we get 2 dollars back and now the agric sec says for every dollar given out in foodstamps we get a 1.84 back, all this even with the cost of the government confiscating others money, banking it and distributing. It's an economic miracle. Aww shucks, probably just an Obama fantasy.

Wow my faith has now been restored. What a great invention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HjTX0wdMW4&feature=player_embedded

Anonymous said...

Nonsense

Twaddle, bunk and tommyrot,
Blather and tomfoolery,
Trumpery and poppycock,
Bosh and rigmaroolery.

Slaver, drivel, blah and tosh,
Balderdash and hooey,
Folderol and fudge kibosh,
Hokum and balooey.


Molds Official Language

The Pennsyltuckian said...

"Now The sec of agriculure is claiming the historical number of people needing foodstamps and help is creating jobs.

Add this to the moronic claim that unemployment creates jobs and Obamas idea for job growth and reducing unemployment by giving those unemployed a payroll tax deduction. "


And don't forget Obama's assertion that we need to spend more to get out of debt.

Liberalism is terminal stupidity.

alicia banks said...

kkk assnons:

file under rich wm wilding in nyc

shame!!!!!!

pookies rule ALL worlds!!!


A wealthy Westchester teen is facing up to four years in prison after pleading guilty to robbery Tuesday for a string of armed muggings in Central Park.
While former boarding-school student Jesse Wasserman is looking at prison time, he was promised youthful offender status - meaning his record will eventually be wiped clean and sealed.

The 18-year-old's lawyer, Norman Steiner, said Wasserman's co-defendant was the gunman in the heists - and his client just "tagged along" with the older boy he met days earlier.

Wasserman admitted to riffling through the pockets of three victims during the robberies last August on the park's East Drive near 79th St.

The duo swiped a wallet, jewelry and a bicycle after asking victims for directions. Wasserman was later arrested riding the bike, cops said.

"Yes," Wasserman said when prosecutor David Drucker asked if he'd insisted on going through the victim's pockets while his co-defendant held a .357 magnum.

Steiner said his client cooperated fully, even helping recover the weapon. Charges are pending against the other man.

"He has some issues, but he's not violent," Steiner said of Wasserman after the court hearing.

"It was a hasty action," Steiner said of the 30-minute crime wave, "not the action of a hardened criminal."

Wasserman, who was booted from the prestigious Vermont Academy months before the muggings, lives with his parents, a doctor and Diamond District shop owner, in New Rochelle.

Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Thomas Farber allowed Wasserman to remain free on $150,000 bail until his Sept. 6 sentencing, but gave him a stern warning.

"I could sentence you for the rest of your life," Farber lectured, telling the teen to stay out of trouble and cooperate with probation officials.

Farber said that if Wasserman is re-arrested, the judge will be free to give him up to 25 years on each of the three counts of first-degree robbery.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/08/16/2011-08-16_rich_westchester_teen_jesse_wasserman_pleads_guilty_to_armed_muggings_in_central.html

BetterMan said...

Mold regurgitates Media Matter Class Warfare talking point excuses

"One might also ask what the test measures. Is it the ability to perform on an exam? Is it that one knows the 'correct' middle or upper class answer? "

Right because knowledge is classist. So you think they ask the proper way to set a dinner table for guests during a firemans exam you excuse making ninnyhammer....sheezzz. Or the proper way to use a napkin in a social setting for the policemans test, you blathering goat rustler.

Can anyone of any class of any race pick up any book they like at any public library for free, to study for the exams? Are content and everything except the answers provided for free in the form of recent exams, you silly pre frontal lobotomy candidate?

If one cannot read and does not acquire a copy of the free exam to outline the areas he should study that will be required to be understood for performance and acceptance to the job applied for. If one does not study and or learn how to improve reading comprehension, then scores low enough to fail and or barely pass. Is this person part of the lazy dumbass class?

Will you want to wave HS diplomas or even grade school diplomas as the next line of "classist requirements"


Shit, see now you have me doing something even chipmunk Steve couldnt accomplish, I am frustrated at myself for answering such a dimwitted insane thing like you.

Out and Out Buh-Bye Senor Insanity.

Anonymous said...

Wasserman, who was booted from the prestigious Vermont Academy months before the muggings, lives with his parents, a doctor and Diamond District shop owner, in New Rochelle.


Sounds just like Mold, he does, he does. Right Davey?

alicia banks said...

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hobama is not your deddy!!!!

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A new article on TheRoot.com talks about the Black community’s relationship with President Obama.

The piece talks about how many in the community treat Obama like a father, brother, boyfriend or husband; and how that affects our ability to think clearly about his policies and how they affect us.

While many of us feel that way because of the pride we have in him being the first Black president, and the racist attacks launched against him, the writer says that we need to move past those things.





http://newsone.com/nation/newsonestaff2/barack-obama-black-america/

ABCDEGKMOLP said...

Well, since AB, (the “Educator”), can’t or won’t, answer any questions regarding “grading on the curve”, I’ll proffer an opinion or two:

I suspect the practice started being widely used in the 1960’s. Probably not too long after the integration of the Public Schools.

Perhaps teachers began to realize they couldn’t fail so many black children, and pass so many whites. Wouldn’t look good at all. Couldn’t have that.

So the “curve” came into play, in order pass the black children along to the next grade level. Of course, all it did was “dumb down” the ENTIRE educational process. Perhaps that’s one reason that AB claims she refuses to grade on the curve. Good for her.

Other teachers knew they wouldn’t keep their jobs long, unless an “acceptable” percentage of ALL students were herded from one grade to the next.

Now, through all the years of “dumbing down” expectations, the Public Skool “System” is a dismal failure, and we have fallen far behind the rest of the world in education.

Of course, you’re entitled to your own opinion. Please do share.

alicia banks said...

more on that wimp warlock warmonger hobama

i love dr. boyce watkins

he is a real black man
and
he has never been a hobama nazi

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The job for President Obama is going to become even more difficult, since getting out of recessions costs money. The original stimulus package in early 2008 was not only too small, it was targeted toward the very same Wall Street bankers who caused the crisis in the first place. As a result, Wall Street executives were the first to recover economically, and many of these bankers are back to getting their multimillion dollar bonuses. The Obama Administration can only blame themselves for much of this, because too many members of Obama’s economic team came right out of Wall Street themselves.

I’m sure there are top secret reasons that the Obama Administration appears to maintain more loyalty to corporate America than to the rest of us. But the president’s political aspirations may go down bloody and burning because of his willingness to play the political game instead of trying to change it. Using the title of one of the president’s books, I have the audacity to hope that President Obama has learned some political lessons and will allow his leadership to evolve over time. I truly wonder, however, if he himself has the audacity to believe he can do it.

Even more sinister is whether or not Hillary Clinton is lurking in the background, waiting to pounce on an opportunity to steal the Democratic nomination away from President Obama. I can hear the quiet little “I told you so,” from the woman whose face possesses the seasoned wrinkles of someone with more than her share of Washington battle scars. At this point, the temptation to replace President Obama with a Republican is less appealing (to most) than the idea of replacing him with a more ferocious Democrat. Personally, I hate the idea of concluding that the Black man wasn’t the best fit for the job, so a better version of Obama would be preferable to the same old Hillary Clinton.

Mr. President: You can’t spend your life trying to make your enemies comfortable. True leadership requires sacrifice and courage, almost none of which you’ve shown, especially on the issue of racial inequality. America needs a strong Commander-in-Chief during difficult times.

There’s a famous statement by Mexican revolutionary Emiliano Zapata who said, “I’d rather die on my feet than live on my knees.” The only thing worse than living on your knees is dying on them; but this may be exactly what happens to the seemingly weak Obama presidency. By tap dancing on territory where he should have been stomping, President Obama may be slowly digging his own political grave



http://newsone.com/nation/washington-watch/boycewatkins/dr-boyce-obama-weak-leader/

alicia banks said...

racist ranting assnon:

i refuse to grade on any curve because i use strict pt systems
with adults

and because i use individualized goals and loving empathy with children


fyi

BetterMan said...

PM



alicia banks said...
racist ranting assnon:

i refuse to grade on any curve because i use strict pt systems
with adults

and because i use individualized goals and loving empathy with children


fyi


Good for you. Ab, what do you teach? I don't know much about teaching but do you specialize in a subject if you want? I mean I am sure you can looking at all the Math, English teachers I have had etc, what I mean is there a general teaching certificate? Really don't have a clue how that works.

Anonymous said...

Butters, maybe you should investigate the creation of standardized tests. Your non-response indicates you literally have no knowledge of the subject.

Ummm..public schools are not failures...unless some wite or christians remove funding. The racists do it because they are still miffed over Brown v. Board of Education. How dare those uppity 'miggers' get the same chances as gawd-fearin' wite folk!
christians (please read the article on Dominionists/Reconstrucionists)
are trying to remove the ability to decline and refute the Teahadi religion. Like the Talibani of Afgahnistan, they hates them public schools. For the very same reasons.

While some weenies are simply delighted with the ideer of a US theocracy with themselves, obviously, as the christian underlords..the reality is that the smart folk would emigrate. Go ahead...pray to jebus that the water still flows. Sing hosanna to get the roads fixed. Dance in ecstasy and bring about the education of children. Right. Sure.

Mold

alicia banks said...

racist revisionist assnon:

u r blaming teachers as all morons do

wise people blame parents and nclb

wtfu!

Horrid parenting is America's most grave crisis and best kept secret. Teachers are being ruthlessly scapegoated for literally everything that is so very wrong in American schools. Toxic parents sabotage education. Toxic students are the undereducated leaders of tomorrow. Someday, every person in America will suffer, directly or indirectly, from the parents and children who exclusively torture teachers today.

Toxic parenting is universal in America. It knows no boundaries of race or class. Reality television proves that rich white parents are often even more toxic than poor black ones. Toxic parenting entails:

Students who never behave will never learn. Students who are never taught to revere education at home will never excel in schools. Students who torture teachers will never encourage superior educators to remain in classrooms.

Academic ability is more important than ever before in our global economy. Children must now compete with global intellectuals. Retirement is a fiscal fantasy in an increasingly technological world, where students must learn many skills for perpetual job changes. Today, an inability to learn is suicidal.

Typically, private schools do not adhere to any of the genocidal and mindless tenets of NCLB. Private schools do not tolerate misbehavior or enable abusive or absentee parents. Teachers at private schools are allowed to teach, while public school teachers are forced to compulsively test and perpetually discipline. This is a tragic national disgrace!

As I grieve about leaving the wonderful babies and positive parents that I adore, I religiously read two books as therapy: Come on People: On the Path from Victims to Victors, by Bill Cosby and Dr. Alvin Poussaint, and The Shame of the Nation: The Restoration of Apartheid Schooling in America by Jonathan Kozol. I recommend these two classic books to anyone who cares about education. I hope they heal your emotional wounds as they do mine.

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All that is Good and Decent said...

Is there anyone on earth who is as much of a twisted racist as mold?

alicia banks said...

anon:

thanks!

i have taught grades p-12 for decades

my niche is 1st grade

i also teach extensive and varied comm courses to adults

they include
comm gender roles
business comm
org comm
interpersonal comm
intercultural comm
etc

braulio said...

AB: "Toxic parenting is universal in America. It knows no boundaries of race or class. Reality television proves that rich white parents are often even more toxic than poor black ones"

Yes there are bad parents everywhere, but in my experience, blacks put the least into parenting their children.

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Anonymous said...

Poor wite WATB.

Speaking of education...http://susiemadrak.com/?p=23072#more-23072...is a piece on why we are saddled with the 'wisdom' and 'wit' of frat weenies RussertJr and DoocyBoy.

Mold

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alicia banks said...

anon:

yes

great teachers are needed NOW in all subjects

especially in math and sci

and you can specialize at all levels now

district rules vary by city/county/state etc

just call your local school district for detailed info

or see national programs too like:

http://www.teachforamerica.org/

best wishes!

wesley snipes said...

Where's mom, dad, grandpa and great-grandpa when you need 'em?

Boy Killed Great-Grandma With Sword: Police
Also wounded was his grandmother

By Greg Wilson
Tuesday, Aug 16, 2011

A Georgia teen killed his great-grandmother and wounded his grandmother with a sword before cops took him down with a stun gun, officials said.

Cops in Douglasville arrived at the home Monday afternoon to find the dead woman lying in the front yard and the 15-year-old boy standing in the doorway with a sword and a pellet gun, which he used to shoot out the windows of their squad car, Douglas County Sheriff Phil Miller told The Associated Press.

Inside, they found the grandmother, who is in her 50s, barricaded inside a room.

She was taken to the hospital and treated for non-life-threatening injuries, Miller said.

Authorities had been to the home before on reports of the teen being violent.

alicia banks said...

steve h is a clueless rich clown who has hobama nazi egg all over his fugly face...

kudos to tavis and cornel !...again!!!

“I don’t understand when people reference me as having a personal beef with Barack Obama,” said Smiley on the Baisden show. “He didn’t come in 2008, but I’ve never said anything negative about Obama other than things holding him accountable. One year later when he was the President, he spoke. If you think my beef is with him because he didn’t show up in ‘08 when he was a senator, but he did show up in ‘09 when he was president, what then is the beef about?”

West closed the exchange joking, “When somebody calls me an ‘uncle tom,’ that’s just like calling me an eskimo or a star in the National Hockey League, that’s just ridiculous.”


http://www.loop21.com/content/steve-harvey-apologies-calling-smiley-and-west-uncle-tom

The Sad Truth said...

All that is Good and Decent said...
Is there anyone on earth who is as much of a twisted racist as mold?
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No, there is not.

flying carpet said...

anon 3:52 reports:

Using democratic math it is a surefire way to boost the economy, pelosi says for every 1$ paid in unemployment we get 2 dollars back and now the agric sec says for every dollar given out in foodstamps we get a 1.84 back...

Damn. Ever dollar of federal spending creates another dollar.

This is like those ads for gasoline additives that make the amount of gasoline in your tank increase while you drive the car.

This is better than an anti-gravity machine.

Mold likes some Doocy sausage said...

But Mold obviously gets wet for the Doocy bros.

Where in hell's bells did mold ever get such an infatuation with the dumbass Doocys'?

alicia banks said...

that blackish hobama and his white banksters have made every city in america whiter and more expensive than ever...shame!!!!


'My Brooklyn' talks to the streets about incoming suites
KRS-One once rapped that "Manhattan keep on making it, Brooklyn keep on taking it." Twenty-five years later the popular borough is on the verge of getting taken itself. A team of filmmakers and researchers have come together to produce My Brooklyn, a documentary that chronicles the impact that gentrification is having on the community. Cameras talked to local business owners and natives about how they feel they being treated unfairly in favor of "people with money" wanting to erase their history, build new condos and move in.

The trailer above features real life commentary from New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and real estate developers rationalizing why the poor must make way for the rich, even going as far as calling Brooklyn's downtown area "ugly."

My Brooklyn is still in its production stage and they have a Kickstarter page encouraging people to lend financial support for the completion and distribution of the film.



http://www.loop21.com/content/brooklyns-gentrification-captured-new-documentary



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Anonymous said...

Why would I care about your desire for FAUX? The issue is that of Legacy...the cheap wingnut version of aristocracy.

Mold

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