Sunday, October 18, 2015

Doing "what is evil".

Image result for fairfax virginia police taser man   I think that we can all agree that being a police officer can be a tough job. It's certainly not easy being on the front lines of protecting law abiding citizens against lawbreakers out there who prefer to break the law instead bringing themselves to abide by it.

Having said that, police departments around the country are going to have to do a better job of getting rid of the bad apples among their ranks, like the police officer in the following story.

"Virginia police officials are investigating an incident captured on video that appears to show a black man complying with an officer's demands, yet the officer still uses a Taser on him. (Pictured above.)

The video, which was posted to Facebook, shows a Fairfax County officer, who was not identified, with his Taser out and aimed at the man. The officer tells the man to place his hands on the officer's car, which the man appears to do. The officer then fires his Taser, striking the man, who screams and falls to the ground.
The officer then begins yelling at the man to roll over. An onlooker yells to the cop, "What'd you do that for?"

'A gentleman just happened to be walking down the sidewalk, and the cop pulls up in front of him and tells him to turn over [sic]. And as soon as he has his back turned toward him, he Tasers him. He didn't see it coming," a witness told Fox 5. "He told him to turn around. He turned around, he complied. And boom, he popped out his Taser and he shot at him."' [Source]

These kinds of incidents are far too frequent in our society. And we all know that Usher could make a million videos about police brutality and it wouldn't change the real problem: The "color arousal syndrome" affecting many of the people who join police forces and end up becoming police officers.

With all due respect to Pastor Jay Dennis, police officers should not be worshiped, they should be praised when they do a good job, and held accountable when they act like the criminals who they are supposed to be protecting us from.

“Do you want to have no fear of authority?’” asked Dennis, reading from the modern language translation of the passage.” “`Do what is good and you will have praise from the same…. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing.’”

“When [the apostle] Paul speaks of `authorities,’ by application that includes law enforcement officers,” Dennis told the congregation. “So here is the idea: When you obey the law, you have nothing to worry about; however, if you do wrong, and if you break the law, you should be fearful. The sword here is the instrument of punishment, and today that would be their weapons. God has given to these officers great authority that must always be respected.”'

Whatever pastor. Besides, I think that you and some of your brethren take this punishment and authority thing a bit too far.

Finally, it would be nice to see someone in "authority" knocking at Dick Cheney's door to haul him off to jail.

This is just one of the reasons why.

"Yesterday, the former vice president of the United States and one of the architects of the American torture program explained why he was unconcerned about the torture of innocent prisoners.
CHUCK TODD: Let me go to Gul Rahman. He was chained to the wall of his cell, doused with water, froze to death in C.I.A. custody. And it turned out it was a case of mistaken identity. DICK CHENEY: --right. But the problem I had is with the folks that we did release that end up back on the battlefield. [...] I'm more concerned with bad guys who got out and released than I am with a few that, in fact, were innocent.
CHUCK TODD: 25% of the detainees though, 25% turned out to be innocent. They were released.
DICK CHENEY: Where are you going to draw the line, Chuck? How are-- [...]
CHUCK TODD: Is that too high? You're okay with that margin for error?
DICK CHENEY: I have no problem as long as we achieve our objective.
A reminder: some of the most egregious torture cases took place during preparations for the Iraq War." [Source]

Wow! He is all for torturing innocent people if it will "achieve our objective". 

It looks like Dick Cheney is helping to recruit some of our nation's police officers.

Dick Cheney is doing what is evil, but he is "not afraid".  

*Pic from



Big Fan said...

White men like Bill and Josh are ugly and lame as hell.
White women are fine as hell.

Why is that?

Anonymous said...

I have mixed feelings about Tasers.

On the one hand, there are probably some situations in which lethal force might have been used in the past, but in which now a Taser is employed instead. I am all for that. (Yes, I am well aware that Tasers aren't strictly non-lethal. A small percentage of people do die after being shocked by a Taser. But you've still got a far better shot of surviving this than you would after taking several .40 caliber rounds to the chest.)

On the other hand, officers now seem to break out their Tasers without much provocation at all, in situations that would never call for lethal force. A civilian may get shocked because the officer simply didn't feel like breaking a sweat to subdue a suspect, because someone made a smart remark the officer didn't like ... basically any number of reasons that don't appear to constitute reasonable justification for inflicting that kind of pain and potential injury.

The Internet is now littered with police officers blasting people with Tasers, with very little provocation.

Anonymous said...

"The Internet is now littered with police officers blasting people with Tasers, with very little provocation."

Correction: This should read: "The Internet is now littered with videos of police officers ..."

PilotX said...

If you're white and kill seven blah people in cold blood you don't have to fear being shot or tasered. In fact you'll be treated with kid gloves and taken out for a 5 course dinner.

dinthebeast said...

They shouldn't bother with the taser on Dick Cheney, the .40 would do just fine.

-Doug in Oakland

PilotX said...

Oh no Doug, we have to torture him to get information first.

Bill said...

The FieldNegro said...
Wow! He is all for torturing innocent people if it will "achieve our objective".

Was Pelosi all for torturing?

Didn't Pelsoi after lying about it admit she knew about waterboarding in advance?

Speaker Pelosi said in February that she was "never" told that the CIA was using waterboarding in interrogations. Then in May she changed her story to say she was told, but still claimed it was not quite as early as the CIA said.

I wonder why Pelosi didn't stop the program before it started. Or at least make it public. Or at least not lie when caught.

Unlike Cheney, she was voted back in office.

Anonymous said...

Brother Field, half the membership in Pastor Dennis's church is Black. Did you not check out the link you provided which showed his congregation?

This is not an unspoken racial issue so please, let's not make it one.

depressed negro

dinthebeast said...

That reminds me of what Lawrence Wilkerson said about Cheney, basically that even though evidence says that torture doesn't work, Cheney still believes it does because he knows that it would work on him...
I'm still against using it, though, even on him, because it's wrong and Cheney is NOT enough of a reason to do it. And besides, isn't being Dick Cheney torture enough?

-Doug in Oakland

Josh said...

When you present stories like these in the vacuum, that whole "color arousal" bit makes sense. But then if anyone ever feels like being honest and searching for other incidents, what they're going to find, solely because it's objective reality, is that the police do this to everybody.

The police force in this nation is growing too large and too powerful. It needs to take a step back across the board.

I understand the identity politics-first collectivist take on it: "This is happening to black males." And while technically true, it's only a single part of the entire scope of the issue. It's happening to everyone, far too frequently, and cherry-picking cases or juxtaposing a dead black kid alongside a living white guy doesn't come across as reporting the story. It's not even a side of the story when presenting in false context.

And then reading the comments, people buy into it hook, line and sinker and use outlier cases and cherry-picked cases in an attempt to make their point.

Do these things go unchanged because all white folks in America just hate all black people that much? Or could it be, maybe, just maybe, that things never gain traction and things never change because of the dishonesty and illogical ways by which these instances are brought to light? I mean, I'm not telling anyone here anything they don't know: There's a stark difference in saying something's a problem that needs to be solved in America, and in pitching the case that there's an issue of systemic racism and that white police are targeting black males.

Some folks are just fed up with the extreme lengths some go to in order to force a culture of victimhood, leaving out more than half the story. The community that cried wolf -- at some point, people just no longer care about the PC, identity-heavy, collectivist side of the issue. On principle.

Police abuse is an American issue, and we need to do something. So long as it's hijacked to become solely a whites-are-hunting-down-blacks issue, fewer folks care, which obviously just perpetuates with great momentum the meme of "nobody cares about us." Possible. Or, quite possibly, more people care about honesty than you realize. More people care about not getting sucked into politics. More people care about abstaining from a dirty black-vs.-white fight.

But, hey, I'm just a far-right racist who hurls abuse at black people every single day of my life. I don't know anything. I'm a white Klansman in hiding. So do whatever you feel is necessary.

And see how far it gets you.

The Purple Cow said...

Quote Josh

"But then if anyone ever feels like being honest and searching for other incidents, what they're going to find, solely because it's objective reality, is that the police do this to everybody."

But not to the same extent.

In the first six months of 2015 32% of African-American people killed by police were unarmed, as were 25% of Hispanic and Latino people, compared with 15% of white people killed.

IN the same period 46.6% of all people killed by police were racial minorities, and 62.7% of all unarmed victims were minorities.

Anonymous said...

Just In: Shooting @ Zombicon in Ft. Myers, FL. One dead. Some white psycho off his meds? Maybe. But then again ....

The victim's name: Expavious Tyrell Taylor.

What is it with groids and guns?!?

And these NAMES - 'Expavious'! EXPAVIOUS!

One more time: EXFUCKINGPAVIOUS! Fut. The. Wuck.

What the fuck is wrong with you people?!

The Purple Cow said...

Quote: Anonymous 6:15

"And these NAMES - 'Expavious'! EXPAVIOUS!

One more time: EXFUCKINGPAVIOUS! Fut. The. Wuck.

What the fuck is wrong with you people?!"

Can only speak for myself obviously, but I would rather be 'Expavious' than 'Anonymous'.

field negro said...

PC, go ahead and drop the microphone.

The Purple Cow said...

So a college kid out with his girlfriend on a Saturday night gets gunned down in a random shooting. Seems like a good guy. But that's not important right? What's important is that he had a funny first name -Expavious - that he chose not to use.

She described her brother as a church-going young man who sang gospel and was a two-sport athlete who also played basketball for Clewiston.

Andrews said the trials he's been through in his life underscore his accomplishments.

Taylor had lost his mother, father, grandmother and a child who died at birth.

"For him to have lost so many people, he stayed focused and didn't give up," she said. "He pushed and pushed and pushed. He showed us he was going to make something out of himself."

Pete Walker, Taylor's football coach at Clewiston, said he was impressed by Taylor's determination in spite of all he'd been through.

"It's a tragic story of a young person losing his life over not a whole lot," he said.

He had got his best football ahead of him." — and got along with everyone on the team.

"He could have gone the wrong direction with all the things of his life and tried to make something positive of his life," he said. "(He was) trying to make something of himself. It's a terrible, terrible, terrible thing to swallow."

His current coach echoed just that.

"All the things he's been through, it's amazing the way he carries himself on a day to day basis through life," said Ernest Jones, head football coach for ASA College. "He's got a hundred brothers over here who are hurting right now."

When asked about Taylor, Jones said he "plays hard, goes hard," and that "his smile will change your whole life."

He also makes changes on the field.

Taylor was a walk-on to the team. Out of 200 who tried out in Aug. 1, he was one of the six who made the cut.

During tryouts, players ran 16 100-meter dashes. The 6-foot-4, 240-pound Taylor finished first every time.

"He stood out," Jones said. "He wanted to keep running."

Josh said...

"But not to the same extent."

Then make that case, on the back-end of addressing it as an American issue of police over-reach and violence and militarization.

I mean, not for nothing, but I do expect that a guy like Field actually wants it to change. I'm not cynical enough to say he revels in this shit because it gives him post fodder.

My point: It's not getting the nationwide support by continually framing this issue as a whites-are-hunting-black-males issue, or as a systemic-white-racism issue, or as a blacks-are-bigger-victims issue. When it's framed like that, necessarily divisive, most people really couldn't fucking care less because they're sick and tired of identity politics and being led around by their nuts on witch hunts, looking for this great American oppressor of black folks*.

Over here, many people are just plain sick of things becoming a whites-vs.-blacks issue, with the idea of "white" always being this boogeyman constantly plaguing all black people.

*And it's not only this; it's far from only race. People are burned out hearing this shit, I'm tellin' ya. The feminists do the same thing. Claim women are second-class citizens, claim to be oppressed, and blame the white male patriarchy for it all. Issues which should get people interested, like the real reason why there are so few women CEOs, are hijacked by these identity politic blowhards and said to be the result of white patriarchy, with invented bullshit like the "wage gap" and suchlike.

Man, folks have had their fill. Beyond y'all here, who are obviously collectivists (no shame in it; not a slur; just an observation), normal folks don't want to lend their focus to shit to seeks to pit everyone against one another. How many times can somebody bring up a dead black kid, a living white kid, and pretend that that's the entirety of the situation; e.g. cops never kill whites, always kill blacks? He whose name shall not be mentioned, because he cried about it, did literally that above.

Are you even serious right now, he who shall not be mentioned? Get a hold of your life, mate.

People obviously don't care in great numbers. We can agree there, I suspect? That much is axiomatic. Now is the "why." Why don't people care? Because the "nobody cares about us" meme, meanwhile LeBron is king shit, hip hop is all the rage, and damn near every white kid under 18 wants desperately to be black? Or is it that some folks go about calling attention to a serious issue the wrong way? E.g. divisively.

Not to paint a false dichotomy. Could be a few reasons or a combination therein. But the writing seems to be on the wall to me: Stop turning this into a white boogeyman oppressing the black man issue, and more Americans will embrace it.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But the biggest issue is that folks won't test it to see if I'm right anyway. The folks doing how they're doing now will just double-down on painting that whitey's-after-your-children narrative.

Good job!

Anonymous said...

JOSH, I am grateful for your comments. I learn a lot from them because they are a fresh insightful perspective on this "racism" thorn in America's side that has been a growing cancer since America's birth.

As a bm, I haven't the slightest idea how to solve this problem and I doubt if 'anyone' does. IMHO, I think you are on the right track to a possible solution to the evil of racism...but it's going to take more Whites like yourself. And hopefully some Blacks too.

I am 80+ years old and have seen the evils of racism and I have come to the conclusion that Blacks cannot solve the evils of racism. Like me as a bm, they are much too close to the painful feelings of discrimination, police brutality, Jim Crow, hangings...and being ignored, and treated as worthless and unwanted for centuries.

This is the "catch 22" for me as a bm: I have to change my opinions, judgments and feelings from years of being discriminated against and abused and used by the majority in America. The problem is how do I do this? I can't wake one day and change my 'untrusting' attitudes toward some Whites who are racists and the others who remain 'silent' while racism rages against me and my people.

It is self-evident I must change the way I think racism should be eradicated. Your comments on racism from a 'white' perspective with 'black' knowledge and understanding touches something in me that maybe there is hope? Maybe if I let go, long enough, of my old way thinking based on the past maybe I can hear what others like yourself are saying? And maybe even 'try' something new?

Nah. What would Field, PC and PX do? They would be like dinosaurs in the 21st century. Nope, the 'same old, same old' must continue on. I think you mentioned that also.

So, we're right back to where we started....DAMN!...God, please help America. I have kids and grand-kids, I don't want them to go through what my generation of bm and past have gone through.

Anonymous said...

I have often wondered why Field, along with ALL White Americans, support Israel?

Now I know. Israel is just as racist against Blacks and America. They have so much in common. Even Netanyahu did the unthinkable by showing up in America to speak to the GOP in order to humiliate our American President, who btw, is Black.

Hmmmmm. I wonder what Field and Josh thinks about all of the bloody mess going on between the Palestinians and Israelis? Do they still side with Israel?

Hatred runs deep.

Anonymous said...

Racism is evil, but beneficial for those who profit from it emotionally, psychologically and mentally. Also, it is a powerful tool to use as a superior or as a victim.

FN fans know this very well.

Anonymous said...

"So a college kid out with his girlfriend on a Saturday night gets gunned down in a random shooting. Seems like a good guy. But that's not important right? What's important is that he had a funny first name -Expavious - that he chose not to use."

If you're a racist, then yes, the humor to be found in the victim's name is the most important factor here. A racist assumes that a black dude who got shot must have had it coming, so the shooting itself is uninteresting.

Anonymous said...

"I have often wondered why Field, along with ALL White Americans, support Israel?"

I don't know about Field, but ALL white Americans do not unconditionally support Israel. You have the wrong idea if you believe this. White people are not a monolith who all believe exactly the same things.

I am white. I agree with Israel's right to exist, contrary to the most extreme voices in Islam who might like to wipe it off the map. I can say that much.

But I do not support at all the policies of Israel's present government. And I do not support the U.S. government handing over $3 billion worth of weapons each year to Israel without demanding they, at minimum, dismantle their West Bank settlements. Those settlements are an immediate roadblock to any sort of peace.

Both parties to that conflict are guilty of fueling it. But they are by no means equally guilty. At this point in time, Israel is far and away the greater contributor to the conflict.

PilotX said...

Digital Blackface alert! Anon 1209.

Limpbaugh said...

The case of former police detective Joseph Crystal is interesting. He is suing the Baltimore Police Department for retaliating against him for reporting police brutality. Reporting corruption should be a consideration for promotions, not something something to be punished for.

Bill said...

What's important is that he had a funny first name -Expavious - that he chose not to use.

He probably wanted a job with Raven-Symoné and knew not to use his first name.

field negro said...

Raven Symone is sell-out, and her ignorant comments have been discredited by all thinking people in the black community. So Bill, this is a fail for your trolling.

Anon@12:09 has been exposed.

Anon@2:31, u are correct.

Anonymous said...

Josh strongly believes he know everything and everybody needs to think and behave like he does. All Hail The All-Knowing Josh!

Lt. Commander Johnson said...

Hm. Why don't you, personally, do something about it, Mr. Jr. Lawyer.

You bitch about the injustice over and over, but bitch is all you do.

Get your paycheck.

Anonymous said...

Josh strongly believes he know everything and everybody needs to think and behave like he does. All Hail The All-Knowing Josh!

Amen brother!

Anonymous said...

While I agree with you that there are some "bad apples" in the police force and they should absolutely be removed, groups like black lives matter and community activists (I won't name them, but we all know who they are) don't differentiate. They seek to instill hatred in citizens for ALL police.

I am angry with all the hate speech by those who advocate violence towards officers, as you said, who do a very tough job.

What do you propose to both remove the "bad apples"?

Bill said...

field negro said...
Raven Symone is sell-out, and her ignorant comments have been discredited by all thinking people in the black community. So Bill, this is a fail for your trolling.

Wasn't I mocking her?

Anonymous said...

Dear JOSH, ignore anons 6:19p and 6:53p. They know not what they think and say. Just a bunch of stupid ass black fools. They are the ones who want racism to continue. They embarrass me.....nothing but a bunch of self-hating going nowhere Negroes.

depressed negro

PilotX said...

Digital blackface alert @ 7:57pm!

field negro said...

"Digital blackface alert @ 7:57pm!"

*horns blasting*

Josh said...

"Josh strongly believes he know everything..."

I strongly believe that you don't read what other people write. You stop at the name and operate off your invented meme.

I clearly said that I could well be wrong. But the issue is that folks won't try it my way anyway. So what the fuck does it matter?

I'm not allowed to have a fucking opinion about how to approach the topic because I don't debase myself with sophistry like you morons?

Here's all I'm saying, as obviously horrific and racist as it is: If one wants to call attention to an over-reaching, militarized police force in America, do so by framing it as an American issue of bad police affecting the entire nation.

How it's currently presented: White males hunt black males in an America that's still a well-oiled machine, operating by the systemic oppression of the black male, and even the slaughter of black males; "color arousal" syndrome, this is a black issue -- BlackLivesMatter! Look how these white people do us. Nobody cares about us! This is about white men in power and black victims.

LOLs, yawns, and arguments are what this line of attack draw, and that just leads to the perpetuation of the "they don't care about us" meme and gives people call to cry "RACISM!" Because, as we all know, "racism" isn't jack-fucking-shit in the world today except a way to mean "white person who said something I don't like."

But, sure, I'm 100% wrong and have no clue what I'm speaking about. Meanwhile, Field and those similar will double down on cherry-picking and juxtaposing cases for effect and complaining about it being a white racism issue. And what'll happen? Nothing. Sure, some black folks that way inclined will have their talking points. But the system won't change, and for the same reason you don't use burn cream on a laceration.

Figure it out or don't. That's your job, not mine.