Sunday, November 15, 2015

When "freedom fries" come back to bite.

The field Negro education series continues.

The following essay was written by Joseph Palermo for Huffington Post:

"Republican myth-makers like Judith Miller, Newt Gingrich, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Ben Shapiro, and other ideologues, along with the GOP presidential candidates from Donald Trump to Marco Rubio, couldn't wait for all the victims in Paris to be identified before they unleashed a stream of hateful statements about the Paris attacks that serve their dual objectives of trashing President Obama and calling for their own form of jihad against their perceived enemies around the globe.

They're incapable of seeing that by politically exploiting this most recent atrocity, as they do with every other jihadist attack, to push their authoritarian and militaristic agenda they are exposing themselves as being every bit as nihilistic as the terrorists themselves.

Not long ago, in the run up to George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq, these same right-wing Republicans were screaming epithets at France because the country that today the corporate media remind us is "our oldest ally" tried to stop the war before it began.

The French case was that there was not a WMD threat, and that invading Iraq would lead to fragmentation of the country and trigger more terrorism.

Like a good friend who tried to take away the car keys from a power drunk U.S. administration before it got behind the wheel, France had the wisdom and forethought to try to stop the United States from its biggest foreign policy catastrophe since the Vietnam War.

And how did the Republican Right in the U.S. respond?

The Republican-controlled House of Representatives stopped selling French Fries in its cafeteria (which are from Belgium anyway) and changed their name to "Freedom Fries."

They vilified France because the French government had the good sense to try to block Bush and Cheney's war of aggression in Iraq through its United Nations veto power.

The United States had not seen such culinary propaganda since the World War One era, when the U.S. government's Committee on Public Information (the Creel Committee) sought to enflame anti-German sentiment by changing bratwurst to "hotdogs," hamburgers to "Salisbury steak," and sauerkraut to "victory cabbage."

The Republicans displayed the same level of hostility toward the French for opposing their war of choice in Iraq as an earlier generation of American propagandists showed toward Kaiser Wilhelm II.
Right-wing talk radio hosts organized events where their fans poured French wine down gutters as a symbolic protest against the French who dared to question the infinite wisdom of their Commander-in-Chief.

During George W. Bush's vicious 2004 re-election campaign against John Kerry Bush's Secretary of Commerce, Donald Evans, repeatedly said that Kerry "looks French."

The Republican House Majority Leader, Tom DeLay of Texas, began many of his Bush campaign speeches: "As John Kerry would say, bonjour."
  
At the 2004 Republican National Convention in New York City "Democratic" Senator Zell Miller of Georgia received thunderous applause when he trashed John Kerry in his keynote address saying, "Kerry would let Paris decide when America needs defending!"

The same right-wingers that today are using the Paris attacks to further their shrill Manichean worldview denigrated "our oldest ally" for showing the good sense of not going along with Bush's war in Iraq.

This phenomenon demonstrates the fact that since the Bush years the Republicans have dropped all pretense of wanting to build a "kinder and gentler" America or promising a new version of "compassionate conservatism."

They've chosen instead to follow the ignorant and mean-spirited script of their ideological soul mates on right-wing talk radio.

In the context of Bush's ongoing "War on Terror" their situational demagoguery has drifted into the realm of heartless neo-fascism.

They demagogue the Paris attacks while dismissing the idea that the United States could learn a thing or two from France's examples of universal health care and publicly financed elections.

They denounce all who disagree with their war-mongering agenda with the kind of cocky self-assurance that Joe McCarthy showed in the early 1950s.

Last summer when I visited the French city of Strasbourg, a region where the horrifying history of war rings loudly, I stood for a long time inside Our Lady of Strasbourg Cathedral admiring the large memorial inside the cathedral to the fallen American soldiers who died there helping to liberate the city during World War Two.
 
I thought about the intertwined recent histories of our two countries and how much the French really loved the Americans, which made me all the more ashamed of the Republicans under George W. Bush who ridiculed that country and its people. Their raw partisan statements so soon after the horror in Paris renews this shame and should remind us just how extreme and heartless the party has become in recent years." [Source]

Thoughts?

*Pic from noboodforhubris.BlogSpot.com

65 comments:

Josh said...

Yeah, those fucking warmongering Republicans are seriously scary. "Oh, there's been a tragedy? Kill Muslims! War! Bombs!"

A little hyperbole, obviously, but these are some scary fuckwits when it comes to how they choose to deal with terror.

However, that's only 1/2 of it; and while that half may be worse than the other half, it's still only half. The other half is that only Republicans are willing to speak the truth to shame the Devil, as it were. It's like pulling teeth to get a liberal politician to even admit that the terror isn't simply a "terrorist attack." It is objectively an Islamic attack. These aren't just people who woke up one day and went terrorist. These are Muslim radicals who went Muslim radical.

Chris Rock, anyone? "That tiger went tiger."

Islam itself, as in the religion, along with Muslims, are in no way incompatible with the west. Conform to our secular values and be embraced! Like Christianity, a secular spike can be driven into the ground, which does a good job of keeping religion on one side (mostly), while keeping the rule of the common people on the other (mostly). This was actually the case in the region many years ago, as the Arab world was leading the charge in scientific discovery and secular values. But then they were brainwashed that math was the devil, and they've been fighting to get back into caves ever since.

The Middle Eastern Islamic culture of today is demonstrably incompatible, necessarily incompatible with western values. And all the "That's racist, you Islamaphobic Hitler Mao Stalin Hitler" in the world doesn't change the fact that we're talking about a culture where the majority of its citizens demand anti-Islamic speech be prosecuted as hate speech, and people who, generally speaking, agree with the penalties dealt out for homosexuality and apostasy.

If the majority of Christians disagreed with SSM, we'd be shaming them as evil monsters. We don't shame Islam even when the culture promotes the murder of innocents. You don't have to be right or left, either or. There exists a huge swath of land in the middle ground whereon you can stand against that horrific culture without advocating for bloody war.

Stefan Molyneux's take on this is superior to any politicians' take, IMHO, where he says the only job we have as human beings, the only responsibility we have to the world, is to stop evil. And this doesn't mean war. It can simply mean speaking the truth and shaming the evil.

There's a truth that exists in the world today. Islamic culture is incompatible with western values. We owe these people nothing. We don't need to play identity politics on this one. Save that for UoM students; let's have some cold, hard truth about the world on this one.

Republicans and their warmongering and wanting to turn the region into a parking lot is, at its core, practically indiscernible from a caliphate, but at least they're willing to speak truthfully about the culprit without shying away from the moronic, nonsensical labels people put on everyone to tell the truth: Racist (as if you can be "racist" toward an ideology lol), Islamaphobe, xenophobe, etc.

Anonymous said...

Some of us, white people, volunteered to tutor, in violent neighborhoods and at a risk to our safety, young black kids. I volunteered for a few years until I was threatened multiple times by black males in the neighborhood and was twice robbed. I quit after the second robbery.

When did any of you self righteous black, middle class posters or FN ever do a damn thing for less advantaged besides wring your hands, post on a blog, and blame the white man?

KINKYCON said...

Joseph Palermo?????


Thoughts?

Yeah. You need to be more selctive in your copy and pasting series.

Anonymous said...

JOSH-"It is objectively an Islamic attack. These aren't just people who woke up one day and went terrorist. These are Muslim radicals who went Muslim radical."

Evidence? Where's your proof? Did you talk to any of them? Let me answer that for you: NO, You did not. Not only are you a racist who hates Blacks, you hate religions, esp Islam. And I bet you don't know a damn thing about Islam OR Christianity. You have got to be the most ignorant long-winded mouth in the blogosphere.



JOSH, "Chris Rock, anyone? "That tiger went tiger."" And when did Chris say something about a Tiger? Was he talking to a white audience?

FN is becoming more work, NOT less, for Anon Inc because of buffoons like you. We are going to have raise our rates CONSIDERABLY for 2016....UNLESS, Field gets rid of your sorry negative ass.

KINKYCON said...

Of course libs have no issue with ''raw partisan'' statements after a mass shooting happens in this country.Libs don't wait for the dead to be identified or the bodies to turn cold before they start blaming the NRA,FOX NEWS, GLENN BECK, REPUBLICANS AND EVERYONE ON THE RIGHT. Libs lie and make death threats.


These very same libs get all butthurt when the right uses reality to expose they lies and bullshit they feed everyone.


Just another case of libs being the lying ass hypocrites that they are.

Anonymous said...

Only a true nut would go on vacation and think about Bush and Republcans.

Josh said...

"Evidence? Where's your proof?"

We're in desperate need of help when people are seriously this stupid. It beggars belief.

Yeah, it wasn't Islamic jihad. That's just me being anti-Islam.

It was the Scottish!

- Reports of survivors of the attack claiming shooters were shouting "Allahu Akbar" and stuff about Syria
- Syrian passports, and other ME passports found on dead terrorists
- Terrorists being traced back, found to have come to France by way of Greece, after leaving Syria; e.g. members of ISIS!
- Isis claimed responsibility for the attacks, they admitted to being responsible for the attacks
- Attackers using the weapons that France has taken out of its population to sell to the UAE, Saudi Arabia, etc, creating a "gun-free zone" in their nation while being the world's third-largest arms dealers, behind only the USA and Russia
- Dozens of threats before the attacks claiming that France will be dealt with by Isis because, despite over 60% of the French being against it, their dictatorial government launched air strikes in Syria anyway, so ISIS was openly plotting revenge
- The same type of weapons used, the same pattern, the same MO as the Charlie Hebdo attacks in January
- Most were suicide bombers whose bomb-making methods, materials and detonation MO match exactly the jihad playbook

Gee whiz. Looks more and more like those dastardly Scottish...

"Did you talk to any of them...No"

You mean the ones who didn't blow themselves up or were killed by police? Yeah, I think I'd have to communicate with the spirit world for that one. Somebody get Dionne Warwick on the line. Is she FNB enough for a source? Lemme know.

You don't know shit about any of this. At all. There's not a single piece of evidence I provided of which you were previously aware. You'll scream at me that I'm ignorant, meanwhile your ass struggles to construct a legible sentence. If Field doesn't spoon-feed it to you like the retarded child you are, you have no idea it exists. Go read a fucking news story, you dimwit.

"Not only are you a racist who hates Blacks, you hate religions, esp Islam."

I provided my evidence. Where's yours? Oh, that's right. You don't need evidence. And I'm racist if I expect you to provide it. I have to treat you equally...no-- wait, differently. No-- shit, as a special case.

If Field ever decides to start policing his blog, I have a feeling that you demonstrable, objective know-nothing chadrools will be the first to go. You make humanity look bad. Homo sapiens should not be capable of this level of stupidity.

Was the Scottish. Damn white people! LMFAO

Anonymous said...

KC "Just another case of libs being the lying ass hypocrites that they are."

9:06 PM
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There is no cause for this kind of language to be used on FN by Whites. Brother Field, something has got to done about these potty mouth conservative right wing white folks. I don't like that kind of language being used on good people like white libs.

In fact, I demand something be done! But I know you won't. I can't count the number of times I have asked you to do something about these profane right winged folks. And you don't even bother to answer, let alone address it.

I swear, some of your behavior is very 'tommish'...your rates for 2016 is going to be sky high.

Anonymous said...

Obama has betrayed the French people and Europe by destabilizing Syria and Libya and abandoning Iraq to ISIS, causing a flood of violent refugees to stream out of the region. He armed and funded ISIS in his quest to kill Assad, and now his creation has come home to roost. The blood of these victims and and millions of slaughtered Christians, Yazidis and Shiites is on his hands. This fool will burn the world down in pursuit of his hateful vision. He should be forced from office and imprisoned.

Josh said...

This shit isn't Obama's fault. It's the fault of a culture of Caliphate. Leave those damn people be.

I agree that he armed them. Well, we all did. America is the world's #1 arms dealer. But guess who's #3? France!

If Obama allows all those refugees to take root in America, and shoves them in productive communities instead of places like Detroit, then we'll be in agreement and I'll bring my pitchfork.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Josh said...
"Evidence? Where's your proof?"

LORD JOSH SAID, "We're in desperate need of help when people are seriously this stupid. It beggars belief."

Are you kidding me? "It beggars belief."? Find another verb that makes sense. Try it "begs belief" or even better and to the point: "It's unbelievable."

Of course, considering it's YOU, that is asking too much. Simplicity and directness is just too hard for your tiny brain.

Josh said...

France and their arms dealings: #3 per volume, #1 per capita.

France's main export nations: United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia.

France's gun laws: So incredibly strict there are only 2 million registered weapons, with an estimated 17 million unregistered.

France's immigration policy: It's illegal to register or take into account in any way the race or religion of anyone; per fairness, everyone is treated equally and allowed in.

France didn't Obama. France just needed to keep being France.

Anonymous said...

JOSH SAID, "If Obama allows all those refugees to take root in America, and shoves them in productive communities instead of places like Detroit, then we'll be in agreement and I'll bring my pitchfork."

9:48 PM
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What are you trying to say? that Detroit isn't good enough for refugees but good enough for Blacks?

You really need to enroll in the "PC Finess School For Racists."

Anonymous said...

Has anybody seen Lilac or FP? What happened to all the women?

Josh said...

"Are you kidding me? "It beggars belief."? Find another verb that makes sense. Try it "begs belief" or even better and to the point: "It's unbelievable.""

Well, I guess providing evidence shut you the fuck up about that part. Now on to plan B, ey?

There's nothing funnier than an individual pretending to be intelligent with nothing to back it up. Though it's also quite sad.

http://grammarist.com/usage/beggars-belief/
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/beggars-belief.html
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/beggars-belief.html
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/beggar_belief
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/beggars+belief


Maybe if your school district weren't interested in protecting your feelings by going after "culturally biased" lesson plans that would have taught you to the same levels of your intellectual superiors, which comprise 99% of the American population, you could refrain from looking so incredibly stupid every single time you respond with something nonsensical.

But, alas, it's my fault that you cannot understand two simple words, infer their definitions, and deduce their combined usage in a colloquial turn of phrase. You don't understand it, therefore stupid!

I've said a dozen times: To the extent James Bold is wrong about you, you may want to stop proving him right. He's looking like a sage here (and before you freak out, that doesn't mean the herb).

Josh said...

"What are you trying to say? that Detroit isn't good enough for refugees but good enough for Blacks?"

I'm saying if you're going to place a potential time bomb in America, do it where the place is already falling apart.

What? Your racist ass thinks only black people live in Detroit?

How is this my issue? Open your mind up, racist! Detroit =/= black.

You really need to think more before you speak.

Your color arousal is showing.

dinthebeast said...

I just read something that the brother of one of the victims wrote. He said that he is afraid that France will make the same mistake now that the US did after 9-11.
It seems never to occur to the war hawks that war is exactly what the terrorists are trying to achieve, and the only way they get any real power.

And here's something I read from someone I don't entirely agree with who makes some points which are unavoidably germane:

http://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2015/11/paris-and-pain-of-being-human.html


-Doug in Oakland

Yisheng said...

Thanks Doug for saying something worth reading!!

Anonymous said...

Yeah, thanks Doug for making an idiotic comment that of course Yisheng liked. You are saying don't fight back against people who are slaughtering civilians, because that's just what they want. So I guess we just sit back and let them keep crucifying Christians, burning people in cages, and beheading babies. That'll show 'em.

Anonymous said...

Josh said...
"What? Your racist ass thinks only black people live in Detroit?"

Detroit is 90% black.

Anonymous said...

JOSH, "Well, I guess providing evidence shut you the fuck up about that part. Now on to plan B, ey?"

Excuse me, but what was plan A, mr smarty pants?

Dennis said...

dinthebeast said...
"I just read something that the brother of one of the victims wrote. He said that he is afraid that France will make the same mistake now that the US did after 9-11.
It seems never to occur to the war hawks that war is exactly what the terrorists are trying to achieve, and the only way they get any real power."


Those who turn away from fighting evil need to be aware, that the notion of evil as dark is actually the opposite of the truth. Evil is so bright, that people can't stare at it with their eyes. It's blinding; so people look at other things. Instead of fighting evil, they fight carbon emissions.

Anonymous said...

JOSH, "Maybe if your school district weren't interested in protecting your feelings by going after "culturally biased" lesson plans that would have taught you to the same levels of your intellectual superiors, which comprise 99% of the American population, you could refrain from looking so incredibly stupid every single time you respond with something nonsensical.

But, alas, it's my fault that you cannot understand two simple words, infer their definitions, and deduce their combined usage in a colloquial turn of phrase. You don't understand it, therefore stupid!

I've said a dozen times: To the extent James Bold is wrong about you, you may want to stop proving him right. He's looking like a sage here (and before you freak out, that doesn't mean the herb)."

10:03 PM
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Hmmmmmm. JOSH's comments sound like a privileged white person. He definitely feels superior to all Blacks, speaking of 'feelings'. And now he brings in James Bold to support his conclusive evidence. Wow, that is some kind of research he has made on Blacks.

Well, let's see: Should I believe him or should I disbelieve him? Let's think about this: If I believe him my life isn't worth living anymore and I will stop reading Ta-Nehishi's wonderful books about being Black.

If I don't believe JOSH, then there is nothing lost and everything to gain because I won't be in his "crab bucket" where nobody gets out...trapped with JOSH in the bucket FOR LIFE! Holy shit!

Anonymous said...

All this stuff in the Middle East reminds me of Vietnam. America goes all around the world getting into other countries' business as if it knows what is best for them. It doesn't. One would think after the Vietnam experience we would have learned our lesson. Nope, we haven't. We couldn't beat Vietnam and it doesn't look very good against ISIS.

We are fighting a far more vicious and 'determined' enemy than the Vietnamese. They don't think like we do, just like the Vietnamese did not think like us.

I think we are headed for the worst nightmare of our lives.

It really didn't have to be this way but it is now. Too bad we didn't learn our lessons from Nam.

Anonymous said...

So, predictably, the same kind of jingoistic idiots who previously brought us Freedom Fries (and temporarily turned sauerkraut into "liberty cabbage") are now freaking out about Syrian refugees entering the country.

Take, for example, Republican Governor Robert Bentley of Alabama:

"After full consideration of this weekend’s attacks of terror on innocent citizens in Paris, I will oppose any attempt to relocate Syrian refugees to Alabama through the US refugee admissions program.

As your governor, I will not stand complicit to a policy that places the citizens of Alabama in harm’s way."


In response, President Obama reassured the citizens of Bentley's state that he was not planning on relocating any Syrian refugees to the backward, redneck-infested, cultural and economic sinkhole known as Alabama, as it would be cruel to those refugees to send them to a place that was far worse than the war-torn hellscape they had just escaped from. Obama also noted that jihadis would never target Alabama for an attack anyway, because it contains nothing of value to destroy.

Okay, I made that last part up. Obama didn't say any of that. But that's what I'd have told Alabamians, were I president. When the best thing in your armpit state is the fucking Waffle House, perhaps you shouldn't be acting so high and mighty.

lilacpr2000 said...

My thoughts are that this really has nothing to do with religion. The fact that they are Muslim and say 'Allah Is great', is the same thing as a Christian saying 'God is great'.

I don't think they are fighting about religion. I think they are fighting because they want America out of their lands and they want complete control of their resources/oil.

I think that's what their acts of terrorism are about. It's about land, power and money.

So as long as America and allies are in the Middle East, and there are persons willing to die for that cause, those acts of terrorism will unfortunately most probably continue.

Just my two cents. I'm not a political savant or anything remotely close, but from what I've seen so far.

The thing is we are not about to/cannot really, let go of such a necessary commodity as is petroleum.

So I guess this will continue, now France has begun bombing and eventually more hatred will create more people willing to die, and explode themselves striking terror and tragedy into hearts and lives.

When will it end? I think when another superpower decides to join the fray and take their side and then the big war will begin. Another world war I guess...

I've come to the conclusion that humans were meant to be at war constantly. If there's no war, it's too boring. Blood, the thirst for blood,proves that we are still as primitive as any sharks bloody feeding frenzy.

And don't be shaking your heads no,no,no,...and then go pay big bucks to watch two men pummel each other to a pulp in a ring!

I know, just call me Baba Vanga...x*D

Josh said...

"...comments sound like a privileged white person. He definitely feels superior to all Blacks, speaking of 'feelings'."

Schrodinger's Privilege.

I feel superior to you. Neil deGrasse Tyson is objectively my intellectual superior. You ARE NOT "black people," or "Blacks" or any other way you want to put it. You are you, despite how many books you read.

"And now he brings in James Bold to support his conclusive evidence. Wow, that is some kind of research he has made on Blacks."

Wrong.

"Well, let's see: Should I believe him or should I disbelieve him? Let's think about this: If I believe him my life isn't worth living anymore and I will stop reading Ta-Nehishi's wonderful books about being Black."

Believe me about what? That you're stupid? Has it not been demonstrated? You cannot understand a thing, therefore that thing is stupid.

Just for my curiosity: Is Ta-Nehisi a scientist who deals with genetics or anything similar, with a degree in a legit STEM field, someone who studies biological and genetic differences and evolution and distribution of markers among populations? Or is he one of those black "educators" who got a degree in a black field from a black university and now has the entire world figured out because his experience, whereby he simply calls everything racist against the black man, is objectively everyone's experience? I bet he wants reparations and would scream at me that I have white privilege without being able to demonstrate any example of it.

Fight the power. Black fist raised.

Am I close?

"If I don't believe JOSH, then there is nothing lost and everything to gain because I won't be in his "crab bucket" where nobody gets out...trapped with JOSH in the bucket FOR LIFE! Holy shit!"

Apparently my #1 fan had a lot to get off his chest tonight. "Show me evidence!" Done. Ignored it. Instantly move on to something else. "Beggars belief makes no sense!" Illustrated multiple examples of the phrase used. Done. Instantly move on to something else. "You saying Detroit is for blacks?" Pointed out projection. Done. Instantly move on to something else.

I beat you like you're Ronda Rousey, and you don't have the self-awareness to realize your little spam-fest has blown up in your face from jump. You'll instantly move on to something else. "Hmmm, did JOSH just make a typo? Can I attribute half a dozen things to JOSH he never said? Can I make JOSH like me!? JOSH, won't you please just LIKE ME!? JOSH, I have FEELINGS! I am A PERSON! LISTEN TO MY FEELINGS!JOSH, where are you? JOSH, come back! JOSH, respond to THIS ONE. JOSH, JOSH, JOSH!!"

Josh said...

"Detroit is 90% black."

Your point being? If a thing is majority black, therefore it's owned by black people?

What grade did you drop out in? I got 7th in the pool...

"Excuse me, but what was plan A, mr smarty pants?"

Oh, so by demanding evidence and PROOF that it was Muslims who attacked, you weren't trying to say that it was another group and not Muslims? Ah, I see. "HOW DO YOU KNOW MUSLIMS DID IT? PROVE IT! DID YOU SPEAK TO THEM!?"

What you were really saying is, "I know Muslims did it; I was just making sure you knew too."

lol

Anyone else with a lick of intelligence want to try to jump on me before I go to bed? This anon is just too weak. Persistent, as to be expected, but really ineffective to his purpose. This is the kind of moron who would start a letter-writing campaign to my employer to try to get me fired, all because he's butthurt that I won't be his friend when he screams my name.

Creepy: level Clint Howard.

Anonymous said...

"I don't think they are fighting about religion. I think they are fighting because they want America out of their lands and they want complete control of their resources/oil."

That's part of it, but not all of it.

While it's true that U.S., and the West generally, has contributed over many, many decades to the problems of the region, there's also plenty of homegrown dysfunction there that is a result of governmental corruption and greed, not colonialism or interventionism. To a certain extent, the U.S. is just a useful scapegoat for virtually everything that goes wrong there. When local governments are doing something that will have very unpopular effects, it's very convenient to distract their citizens by blaming it all on the Great Satan (as the U.S. is known in Iran, and in similar terms in Sunni-majority countries). This is at the root of much of the hate directed at us.

And the jihadis are also at war with modernity. They are simply extreme cultural conservatives. They hate uppity women, homosexuals, secular education -- the same crap that the Christian Right here in the U.S. are constantly pitching tantrums about -- and they are convinced that they can literally fight social progress with guns and bombs and swords. (It's a huge irony that evangelical Christians in the States hate Islamists so much, since they believe in damn near the same things. The only difference is that America is afflicted with Taliban of the Jesus-loving variety and our security services are powerful enough to stop our extreme religious nutjobs from tossing gays off the roofs of buildings.)

In any event, if the U.S. weren't propping up dictators to stabilize oil markets or unwisely gifting Israel loads of weapons, I'm sure that would be an improvement ... but even without our involvement, the Middle East would still be the most screwed-up, regressive, politically broken part of the planet, by far. They've got a long way to go to sort themselves out.

dinthebeast said...

Charlie Pierce says something that kinda makes sense, when so little being said about this does:

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a39727/paris-attacks-middle-eastern-oligarchies/

-Doug in Oakland

Josh said...

"While it's true that U.S., and the West generally, has contributed over many, many decades to the problems of the region..."

Not for nothing, but there has been a strain in Islamic culture since Muhammad that sought to institute Caliphates over everyone.

From the 1200s, hundreds of years before there even was an America, 'til WWI, empires like the Ottomans waged their holy war on infidels. Our earliest Americans, our forefathers, dealt with Islam and their holy war. They captured early Americans as slaves.

What's going on over there is nothing new. America isn't so much an antagonist as it is their justification in this era for continuing what they've been doing for close to a thousand years. America and modernity is their latest recruiting tool. That said, America shouldn't be poking and prodding. But even bereft of our existence, it is factually the case that some Islamic cultures have sought to convert, murder or breed away the infidels.

You'd have a case if this stuff just started happening after America started going over there. But who's to blame for the centuries of jihad before America even became a nation? This is just part of some Muslim cultures and has been forever: Wage Caliphate, convert the infidels.

And to the extent our right-wing crazies were as crazy as you're painting them, who the hell could stop them? Who's able to stop a maniac with a machine gun in a movie theater or school? If these people truly were that crazy, they'd be doing crazy shit. They're regressive. They're bigots. They're loons stuck on mysticism. But they aren't that. They objective aren't that. To call this a false equivalency is insulting to the term false equivalency.

Whitey's Conspiracy said...

As soon as the scope of the carnage in Paris became clear Ann Coulter tweeted his opinion that the IS murderers had just elected Donald Trump. Donald Trump of course elaborated on his message that if that disaster were to occur he would order the carpet bombing of IS territory and its captive people and an invasion to steal Iraq & Syria's oilfields. These extremists understand each other & tacitly cooperate to provide each other with the justifications for each other's programs, the propoganda to panic each other's credulous rubes into signing onto their psychopathy.

The Purple Cow said...

If there is anyone here that is still interested the truth, here it is.

http://www.thenation.com/article/what-i-discovered-from-interviewing-isis-prisoners/

Yisheng said...

Well put Whitey!!

BTW has anyone else noticed that people who are SLOW use 1000 words to say something that could have been said with 10?

Josh said...

Young people who don't know shit about Islam yet are indoctrinated to fight. Hmm. Breaking news at 11.

And, surprise-surprise, it's America's fault!

America needs to leave those fucking people alone and should have been leaving them alone for decades. Wars fail. Occupations fail. Puppet regimes fail. Arming "rebels" and training "security" fails. Charity and outreach fail. Let those people be free to create the culture they want. They try to come to your country to blow shit up? Blast those fuckers into 72 pieces, one for each virgin. But get the fuck out of their lands. And inasmuch as they want that regressive, acid-in-a-woman's-face culture, you might could tase them for even visiting. Want quarantine? Want America out of the east? Stay your punk asses out the west too. Deal? I can live with it.

But on the real tip: Whose fault was it for the 600 years of holy wars preceding America's existence, I wonder? Who did those young, poor innocent boys, just family people who are enraged at American injustice, blame it on then? The Pope? Greek Orthodoxy?

Do we find it more important to speak to the pawns that the mujahideen elders use? If so, why? If they can't indoctrinate them because it's all America's fault, it will all suddenly fall apart? I'm willing to take seriously the piece. Seems genuine, well written if not a little too intent on transforming ISIS fighters into victims. Seems a presupposition that used a bit of confirmation bias, but I'm willing to buy it. I can live with that.

But why are the leaders and organizers fighting?

They seem pretty fucking clear in their many messages. We're to say they're lying but barely literate young boys have it all figured out?

We know why many American soldiers sign up to fight too. They're mad as hell at X and Y, patriotic, want college paid for, etc. But do we blame those soldiers or our fuckwit governments for the wars? I think we learned our lesson after Vietnam on that front. I wouldn't be so quick to name these pawns queens.

Do they really need to hate America for a leader of a terrorist cell or some imam to shame them into glorifying Allah's name by fighting the infidel? America and our dumbfuckery in foreign policy is just an easier recruiting tool. But they've found willing soldiers for the holy war for a thousand fucking years, most of which have been without America.

Suspect.

Kinky_Con said...

While most clear thinking Americans feel sadness for the victims of terror attacks. Most clear thinking Americans see once again Obama is wrong on terrorism and his foreign polices have destabilize the word.

The left in this country is thinking about freedom fries....Which says a lot about they "psychopathy".

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The Purple Cow said...

If there is anyone here that is still interested the truth, here it is.

http://www.thenation.com/article/what-i-discovered-from-interviewing-isis-prisoners/



Is that what the left calls terrorist propaganda these days?

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Yisheng said...

Well put Whitey!!

BTW has anyone else noticed that people who are SLOW use 1000 words to say something that could have been said with 10?



No. But we do notice how slow you are dr. queen.

Eric Roberts said...

Myth-makers? Why don't you just call them for what they are: fascist propagandists?

Anonymous said...

Because they are not leftwingers.

Josh said...

Gee, Yisheng. The article PC posted was around 3,000 words.

Why couldn't that author just say it in 10!?


"Don't be surprised if we're articulate. That's racism."

Then, "Don't be articulate. We don't like it!"

A "STEM MASTER" who can't look at relatively lengthy blocks of text without being triggered. "SAY IT IN 10 WORDS! MUH FEEWYNS!"

Because you literally cannot make your malformed brain focus on anything longer than a tweet, other people who take time to articulate their points and actually explain what they mean are the slow ones.

Worth $5 my ass. Where did they get such a high estimate? You owe us money.

The quality of Field hands these days is seriously in the shitter. I think we need to go to auction. Hope you can make biscuits, Mrs. I'm-a-STEM-master-who-doesn't-know-high-school-biology. To the house your dumb-ass goes.

Yisheng said...

Only to a pale faced retard like you Kondic.

Yisheng said...

Once again I wish the President had made history then BOUNCED!!!!

The second term just wasn't worth it IMHO.

Anonymous said...

Yisheng said...
"The second term just wasn't worth it IMHO."

You are right, he should have left before all his failures came home to roost.

At least he was smart enough to structure the Obamacare implementation so that it will implode in 2017, right after he leaves office.

We will be cleaning up Obama's messes for decades.

Anonymous said...

JOSH, "Worth $5 my ass. Where did they get such a high estimate? You owe us money."

What do you mean by you owe "us"? Who is "us?"


Yisheng, "BTW has anyone else noticed that people who are SLOW use 1000 words to say something that could have been said with 10?"

Yisheng, I have been thinking the same thing. El Sicko JOSH expends a lot of energy and time writing and writing as if FN was a place for English essays.lol Then he complains that folks aren't using the 'proper' English. He still doesn't get it that this is a blog, a Field Negro blog. It wasn't designed to meet his specs....

But that is the way white privileged racist people think. Why is he here? What's his motivation other than to degrade Blacks? What an evil asshole!

Anonymous said...

Blogger Kinky_Con said...
While most clear thinking Americans feel sadness for the victims of terror attacks. Most clear thinking Americans see once again Obama is wrong on terrorism and his foreign polices have destabilize the word.

The left in this country is thinking about freedom fries....Which says a lot about they "psychopathy".
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Kinky sure does a number on the English language. He probably got an "A" under the tutelage of JOSH. Hmmmmmm. I wonder why JOSH never criticizes Kinky Con for his fucked up English. Wait....sorry, I forgot... Kinky is White and has certain privileges Blacks will never have. JOSH upholds White Privilege.

Yisheng said...

@10:20, "Josh" isn't White, he's a dumb gay Asian dude, disowned by his family for being dumb and gay.

He's like many Asians in that he desperately want to be taller and White.

Josh said...

The double-think and total lack of self-awareness is befuddling.

Black folks who sit in here and literally scream across the screen that people are actually racists for disagreeing with them, but have absolutely no issue in insulting Asians as a race, and homosexuals as biological outliers, running them down as if they're not equal people. Not to mention the objective racism of screaming racial epithets at white people, while claiming calling one black person stupid is calling ALL black people stupid.

"STEM MASTER" my ass. Crack stem, maybe. Three-babies-with-three-men having ass welfare queen, worth $5, giving black women a bad name. Knowing you got the 2016 model lace-front already with the flat-ironed extensions with purple highlights. Why you hate on Asians, dumb-ass? They keep your weave game right! Gotta look good for that fight in McDonald's! Your conflict weave game is tight, gurlfrenn!

For every black woman wearing a hair hat, there are 8 Indian girls whose heads were shaved so their families could eat a bowl of rice. But y'all have it so bad in this first-world country that kowtows to your every need. Jonathan Butler is Martin Luther King, Jr.

Headline: World Ends, Black People Most Affected

Anonymous said...

Yisheng said...
He's like many Asians in that he desperately wants to be taller and White.
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Just like you want to be smarter and whiter.

Bill said...


How far out of touch is the current dumbcorat party?

"ISIS isn't necessarily evil. It is made up of people doing what they think is best for their community. Violence is not the answer, though."
http://bringmethenews.com/2015/11/15/mn-house-candidate-tweets-isis-isnt-necessarily-evil-dfl-party-leaders-respond/

And Bernie Sanders believes that global warming is contributing to only one religion killing innocent people.

Bill said...


Every child deserves the opportunity to live up to their God given potential. @HillaryClinton #blacklivesmatter
https://twitter.com/PPact/status/665734815115816961

Ouch.

Bill said...


No surprise that Bernie Sanders didn't want to debate terrorism.

Not everyone was happy about the course change for the evening. Isham called the campaigns Saturday morning to alert them that foreign policy was moving to the front burner. A representative for the Sanders camp "went nuts," he said. Naturally, the reaction was leaked to the press by one of Sanders' rivals.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/la-et-st-cbs-debate-20151116-story.html

Is "went nuts" the best way to describe a dumbcorat presidential campaign when they doesn't get their way at the debate?

Yisheng said...

@11:04, I think you meant Genius and Blacker.

And it's redundant for me to say that!! :)

Kinky_Con said...

Here's something field would never copy and paste. This is par the course for blah lives matter...


#BlackLivesMatter Protesters Disrupt Students in Library: ‘F*ck You, You Filthy White F*cks!’

http://www.mediaite.com/online/dartmouth-protesters-disrupt-students-in-library-fck-you-you-filthy-white-fcks/


He's something else field won't copy and paste-


#BlackLivesMatter Supporters Start #FuckParis Hashtag, Say Attention Is On Paris Because It’s A ‘White Tragedy’

http://www.weaselzippers.us/239910-blacklivesmatter-supporters-start-fuckparis-hashtag-say-attention-is-on-paris-because-its-a-white-tragedy/



#blacklivesmatters are starting to show they true colors. They are who the right said they are.

Josh said...

"#BlackLivesMatter Supporters Start #FuckParis Hashtag, Say Attention Is On Paris Because It’s A ‘White Tragedy’"

We all know the score. We all live in the world. We can all observe.

World Ends, Black People Most Affected

Me, me, me!

However, that seems a bit on the outlandish side, even for crybabies who swear they can feel the lashes of slavery on their back because they're about two tones darker than me after a winter of no sun. I'm defo going to have to read the source here.

Yīshēng said...

Blogger Kinky_Con said...

‘F*ck You, You Filthy (Wannabe) White F*ucks!!

>>>>>>>>


There.

Bill said...


Lacking control = no-go zone?

Belgian Minister Says Government Lacks Control Over Neighborhood Linked to Terror Plots

Belgium’s home affairs minister said that the government does not “have control of the situation in Molenbeek,” a working-class neighborhood of Brussels that has been linked to several terrorism plots in recent years.

http://www.nytimes.com/live/paris-attacks-live-updates/belgium-doesnt-have-control-over-molenbeek-interior-minister-says/

I'm sure lacking control is nothing like a no-go zone.

Josh said...

Yisheng, calling for rain today. Keep that hair hat covered up! That shit gets wet and loose, it'll fall out easily and become tumbleweave. You don't want your child's college fund money rolling down the street.


Woke up late, half past 2; oh, shit, gurl, I gotta get my hair did soon!
Gotsta get muh weave 'fore the day begins, this one I've had for weeks done got split ends.
Besta take my 4 babies too; I teach 'em good werds like woosa and whootemoo.
We ran out the complex, past a bunch of Bob Marleys, they always around chillin' at Uncle Charlie's.
Couldn't get a cab, now I'm walking quite livid. I know what it is, whootemoo white privilege.
So I call muh baby daddy, "can u gibsme a ride?" His broke ass was late, didn't get here til 5.
Then I did the head-shake shout, shout. Cocked my fist back, tried to knock his ass out.
He said, "baby, baby, why you treat me so mean?" But I don't takes no shit, cuz I's a strong black queen.

Cruisin' down the street in my lace front. Blowing the Asians, twerkin' da butt.
Stopped at House O'Naturals to leave my kids, they'll get a free haircut while I gets mines did.
I come out fresh, won't ya look at me. I head of Indian hair, only cost 2Gs.
I strolled up the block and started to say, cultural appropriation's only a white thang.

Cuz the hair hats in da hood are always hard
You got pulling that weave, that shit'll fall off
Knowing nothing in life but to wear fake shit
Fresh, ironed and pressed, it's as dope as it gets

Bill said...


Many Say High Deductibles Make Their Health Law Insurance All but Useless

Obama administration officials, urging people to sign up for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act, have trumpeted the low premiums available on the law’s new marketplaces.

But for many consumers, the sticker shock is coming not on the front end, when they purchase the plans, but on the back end when they get sick: sky-high deductibles that are leaving some newly insured feeling nearly as vulnerable as they were before they had coverage.
...
In many states, more than half the plans offered for sale through HealthCare.gov, the federal online marketplace, have a deductible of $3,000 or more, a New York Times review has found.



Cheap Obamnacare insurance isn't worth much if poor people can't afford a $3000 deductible.

Reality is much much different than the typical family saving $2500 Obama repeatedly lied about.

Bill said...


What I'm not interested in doing is posing or pursuing some notion of 'American leadership' or 'America winning

ISIS wants to win.

Obama wants a participation trophy for America.

Kinky_Con said...

Semantics Bill. Muslims have made these places off-limits to Non-Muslims.. You just can't call them what they are.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
JOSH, "Worth $5 my ass. Where did they get such a high estimate? You owe us money."

What do you mean by you owe "us"? Who is "us?"


Yisheng, "BTW has anyone else noticed that people who are SLOW use 1000 words to say something that could have been said with 10?"

Yisheng, I have been thinking the same thing. El Sicko JOSH expends a lot of energy and time writing and writing as if FN was a place for English essays.lol Then he complains that folks aren't using the 'proper' English. He still doesn't get it that this is a blog, a Field Negro blog. It wasn't designed to meet his specs....

But that is the way white privileged racist people think. Why is he here? What's his motivation other than to degrade Blacks? What an evil asshole!

10:20 AM
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Amen brother. You nailed it.

dinthebeast said...

Here's another:

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2015/11/14/paris/

-Doug in Oakland

Josh said...

"Who is "us?""

Every taxpayer supporting the Yisheng bastards, her clubbing habits, and her 10k spent on hair weave annually.

"Yisheng, I have been thinking the same thing."

So, it is true. I suspected:

Black people: "Don't be surprised if we're articulate. That's racist."
Black people: "Don't be articulate. We don't like it."

Make up your minds.

"He still doesn't get it that this is a blog, a Field Negro blog."

It's THE "Field Negro's" blog, not A field negro blog, you fucking dolt! I have something in common with every black person here. We each have the exact same experience as being a field negro, forced under threat of pain and/or death to perform slave labor as a captive! That is to say, none of us have ever been slaves, and having genetics that make you part of the Negroid race in no way--beyond your religious interpretation--means you know more about it, feel it more, or understand it more than any member of the Caucasoid race.

"It wasn't designed to meet his specs..."

Criticizing stupid people for being stupid people is just that. If I had a dollar for every time I've said I'm not criticizing black people but an INDIVIDUAL, and for you fucking idiots to say, "NUH UH! If yours cretaziz a black person den u cretaziz ALL black people," I'd be able to retire.

So, let's sum it up. Josh is wrong because:

- This is a blog for slaves working in the field
- One black person is all black people
- You cannot criticize a black person unless you're criticizing them for being black
- But you people aren't overly emotional crybabies; everyone else is just racist
- It means I'm stupid if I type too many words for you to read
- Telling you that you're wrong means I want this to be my blog

Glad we got that straightened out...

dinthebeast said...

And another:

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2015/11/another-goddamned-blog-post-about-paris.html

-Doug in Oakland

Lt. Commander Johnson said...

Bernie Sanders is a communist joke. I'll bet, if the networks were to really investigate, they would find out Clinton is funneling funds to his campaign

Anonymous said...

Field Negro said:
They're incapable of seeing that by politically exploiting this most recent atrocity, as they do with every other jihadist attack, to push their authoritarian and militaristic agenda they are exposing themselves as being every bit as nihilistic as the terrorists themselves.
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Black people are incapable of seeing that by racially exploiting this most recent atrocity, as they do every other police arrest, to push their racist, hateful anti-American agenda they are exposing themselves as being every bit as racist as those they condemn themselves.

Fixed it for ya.