Wednesday, September 27, 2017

Open thread Wednesday.

MORE DISCLAIMERS It's open thread Wednesday field hands, and I need you to freely express yourselves about issues of the day that are important to you. (There will be no trump style 1st Amendment restrictions on this blog.)

Personally, I am thinking about the aforementioned Mr. trump trying to bring my fellow countryman, Usain Bolt, into his fight with the NFL players. Not going to work. It's an age old trick that racists like to play:  turn one black man against the other. Sorry Mr. trump, Usain Bolt will not be your Hopping Bob.

I am thinking about the lovely way Jane Fonda threw shade at the Black Santa Lady.

I an thinking and concerned that  Republicans in Alabama might be sending a certifiable madman to Washington.  The guy makes Donald trump seem sane for crying out loud.

I am thinking that we all need to be taking a closer look at this Russia facebook story.   

Finally, I am thinking that Puerto Rico is becoming trump's Katrina.

Thoughts?

62 comments:

Anonymous said...

September to Date
Shot & Killed: 49
Shot & Wounded: 232
Total Shot: 281
Total Homicides: 49

Chicago

Yīshēng is a genius said...

Michelle Obama on how white women (stupidly) voted against their best interests:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/politics/michelle-obama-women-voters/index.html

Field's House said...

"Not going to work. It's an age old trick that racists like to play: turn one black man against the other."

Thanks for reminding us that Black people are not allowed to think for themselves.

One people, one opinion!

Ray Niggen said...

"Finally, I am thinking that Puerto Rico is becoming trump's Katrina."

Field be wishsplaining again.

dinthebeast said...

Don't fuck with Jane Fonda. Or Robert Redford, for that matter.

I don't know about comparisons between Katrina and Maria, but I do know that thousands of shipping containers full of everything so desperately needed in Puerto Rico right now are sitting in the port for lack of anyone to drive them to where they are needed, passable roads and bridges to drive them over, and anyone in charge of organizing their shipment, and of course gas or diesel to power the trucks.
People have already died in hospitals for lack of electricity to run the machines, and half of the people are still without potable water, and are walking miles in 90 degree heat to stand in line for hours to buy fuel for their generators.
The planes flying out have empty seats in them because the computers aren't working at the airlines, this despite hundreds of people at the airport with money trying to get a flight off of the island.

So yeah, a week in, it could be better managed.

The USNS Comfort has finally been dispatched to back up the failing hospitals, but won't be there for another week.

This is what you vote for when you vote for Republicans. Do you really think an island full of people he would put on the other side of his imaginary wall if he could are a priority for Fergus, beyond the political damage the comparisons to Katrina might do?

-Doug in Oakland

limpbaugh said...

Bannon endorsed religious nut Moore and said Trump was misled in to supporting Luther Strange. The guy with the super villain name. I'm not sure either of them could be worse than the guy they would replace, Jeff Sessions. Session's DOJ heavily redacted the reluctantly disclosed documents about the Bill Clinton/Loretta Lynch tarmac meeting. What didn't they want us to see? The part about golf or the part about the grand kids? The FBI (which is under the DOJ) also said there wasn't enough public interest to justify releasing additional Hillary emails. And here I am trying to decide if I should take yoga lessons or not. The CIA must have pictures of Jeff Sessions doing something to little boys.

If the Republicans cover up Democrats using our taxes to pay off blackmail, the Republicans should be shot. One woman representative fired Imran Awan when reports of him abusing women first came in. Another wrote off $130,000 of missing computer equipment. About 15 others, and men representatives, fired him when he was banned as a security risk. Debbie Wasserman Schultz kept him on as a consultant to bypass the ban, and only fired him after he was arrested trying to leave for Pakistan (not Russia). He apparently had family and friends on the payroll to circumvent the cap on congressional aide pay.


I hope people have at least seen Wasserman Schultz threatening the Capitol Hill Police Chief to get a computer back. She said it hers until she couldn't get it back, then it became his. Awan left it to be found with copies of his ID and notes marked attorney client privilege. Today it was reported that Awan accessed the congressional server 5,400 unauthorized times and downloaded massive amounts of data to offsite servers. He also had Debbie Wasserman Schultz's password. The CIA controlled Washington Compost said a Democrat said Awan downloaded pictures of his kids and copies of his kid's homework. Yes, it was some combination of either 250,000 family photos on a computer where you couldn't see them because it didn't have a monitor, or terabytes of homework for grade school kids. Teachers shouldn't be assigning hundred page book reports to little kids. But law enforcement reportedly recognized a coverup and criminal intent.

Limpbaugh said...

Puerto Rico could very well be Trump's Katrina, and the press would have a field day with him being distracted by stupid things.

Anonymous said...

Homeland Security has argued that the Jones Act isn't really hurting Puerto Rico at the moment. That's because the hurricane so badly damaged the island's ports that it's not going to be possible to bring in many supplies by ship, whether those ships be American or foreign. Most of the supplies will have to be flown in.

It isn't really disputable that the Jones Act has hurt Puerto Rico's economy over the years, by driving up the cost of imported goods (and in the Caribbean, most goods are imported). This has contributed to Puerto Rico's government developing its unsustainable debt.

Limpbaugh said...

I don't know how much the mainstream media reports but I have heard that there are people in Puerto Rico who have gone days without food or water. There are bridges out and hospitals with generators. It sounds horrific.

Anonymous said...

"This is what you vote for when you vote for Republicans."

So predictable.

Fuck you Doug, and your pathetic attempt to blame the President for the weather.

I hope you stay miserable for the rest of your life. You are a worthless piece of shit.

dinthebeast said...

I didn't blame Fergus for the weather, I said the distribution of supplies already on the island, Jones Act or no, was being mismanaged.
I haven't been miserable for a long, long, time.

-Doug in Oakland

Limpbaugh said...

The Washington Compost had to retract the claim in their cover story that Obama's conversation with Mark Zuckerberg about "fake news" on Facebook included any mention of Russia. As I've mentioned before, the Washington Compost's parent company, AOL, has a cloud service contract with the CIA that is worth more than twice as much as the Washington Compost. How's that for a conflict of interest? I wonder how much trouble hey have getting their alleged pedophile employee, John Podesta,to write what the CIA wants? Maybe they can just get him a pizza with walnut sauce for an hour.


After deep state whore Robert Mueller pressured Facebook to find "Russian interference" ads, Facebook found $T100,000 worth of ads. That includes ones that ran after the election and general non partisan complaints about the system, like Facebook is full of. Does it include ads for Viagra? Facebook has annual revenue of 27 billion. Dr. Evil is ashamed of Putin.


Congressional war pimps like Adam Schiff and Mark Warner want the Facebook search expanded to include Estonia which is in NATO and not allied with Russia at all, as well as other former Soviet block countries. Of course all Russians are linked with the Kremlin and only Russians have fake accounts on Facebook. Russia isn't our enemy. The Americans who lie us into wars are.



PilotX said...

Roy Moore, like trump, is just the logical conclusion of what the gop has become. They have been co-opted by the religious right and the no nothings of the south.
@Doug, you are right about the gop. When you don't believe in government and actively sabotage it you get what you see in P.R. You will also see more Flints and Rangers as they dismantle the EPA and gut regulations aimed at keeping the environment safe. Maybe sane voters can save the republic in 2018.

Limpbaugh said...

I wonder if Russia gets more subversive than I do? I think the "brave Americans" who died in Benghazi were terrorists who deserved to die. I am glad they are dead. Sorry Vlad. We knew Hillary was corrupt a long time ago. We don't need you to soft peddle it to us

mike from iowa said...

From "What Do I Know" blog - Ken Burns' Vietnam series is sponsored by David Koch and Bank of America among others.

Watching planes and helicopters fly into makeshift landing zones in the Vietnam series made me scratch my head when NPR reported that planes couldn't land in Puerto Rico because there was no electricity or navigation. People have forgotten that navigation is nice, but not necessary in emergency situations.

mike from iowa said...

Anonymous Limpbaugh said...

I don't know how much the mainstream media reports but I have heard that there are people in Puerto Rico who have gone days without food or water. There are bridges out and hospitals with generators. It sounds horrific.

I bet it won't stop you from accusing HRC of some crime and declaring Russia didn't hack Puerto Rico. Ignorance must be bliss.

mike from iowa said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...

September to Date
Shot & Killed: 49
Shot & Wounded: 232
Total Shot: 281
Total Homicides: 49




In Oakland, California, the NAACP reported that out of 45 officer-involved shootings in the city between 2004 and 2008, 37 of those shot were black. None were white. One-third of the shootings resulted in fatalities. Although weapons were not found in 40 percent of cases, the NAACP found, no officers were charged. (These numbers don’t include 22-year-old Oscar Grant, who was shot and killed by a transit authority officer at the Fruitvale BART station on New Year’s Day of 2009.)

Fact Jack said...

"In Oakland, California, the NAACP reported that out of 45 officer-involved shootings in the city between 2004 and 2008, 37 of those shot were black. None were white"

That's because Oakland is heavily black, and blacks completely dominate violent crime statistics in Oakland.

mike from iowa said...

Hugh Hefner of Playboy fame passed away. Somehow, someway, someone will accuse HRC of doing the deed with the no help from Russia.

mike from iowa said...

Now, Oakland has nearly as many white people as it does African American. It also has nearly as many Latinos.

730 people have been killed by police this year- to date. Last couple of years the death toll pushed 1000. Just looking at the last couple dozen I see several unarmed people were killed. Whites, blacks and Latino. One white was killed while armed with an air conditioner. Wonder what the lethal range and Taylor knockout co-efficient of that baby was. Taylor KO factor is premised on projectiles of large caliber moving at lower speeds are more deadly than smaller more streamlined projectiles traveling at a higher rate of speed.

Miguel Guttierez said...

I live in Yabucoa, and my home is badly damaged. We have had assistance since the day after Maria hit. Thank you President Trump and Royal Caribbean for helping Puerto Rico. Obama would be golfing instead.

Fact Jack said...

"Now, Oakland has nearly as many white people as it does African American. It also has nearly as many Latinos."

Yes, but the white people in Oakland commit very little violent crime.

Blacks are only 28% of the population of Oakland, yet commit 83% of homicides, attempted homicides, robberies, assaults with firearms and assaults with weapons other than firearms.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/johnson/article/Oakland-crime-issue-goes-far-deeper-than-racial-5355633.php

anotherbozo said...

I thought Drumpf bringing Usain Bolt into the argument might get Field's attention.

Fortunately he was smacked down promptly but Team Jamaica.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-apos-attempt-using-074828646.html

mike from iowa said...

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/09/oh-look-racine-decertifies-their-opscan

More voting problems popping up in Wisconsin. Wingnuts will completely disregard any problems as long as it helps them steal elections.


Fact Jack said-
That's because Oakland is heavily black, and blacks completely dominate violent crime statistics in Oakland.

Then Fact Jack changed his story precipitously- Blacks are only 28% of the population of Oakland,

So now, Oakland is heavily criminal blacks. That fits the new narrative.

mike from iowa said...

Anonymous Miguel Guttierez said. derp! Drumpfuck has done nothing for you. Five former presidents got the balls rolling for you.

Obama was not golfing when Katrina hit. Dumbass dubya Bush was Potus at that time and chose to fly over New Orleans for his view of the damage instead of landing and being on the ground.

Meanwhile, Obama was in Houston, at that time with former Potus Clinton and Hitler Weasel Bush Sr meeting with refugees from Katrina. Stop the damn lying about the best otus you'll ever have seen in your lifetime.

Fact Jack said...

"Then Fact Jack changed his story precipitously- Blacks are only 28% of the population of Oakland,"

You really are retarded, aren't you?

Nothing changed in my story.

In no way does being a minority of the population prevent a group from dominating violent crime statistics (or the NBA, for that matter).

That's the whole astounding story told by crime statistics in this country.

Blacks are a small minority, yet commit the majority of violent crime.

It explains why blacks have more confrontations with police.

Yet you are too stupid to understand the facts that put the lie to your narrative. And they let you vote.

Amazing.

Nina S. said...

mike from iowa said...
"Obama was in Houston, at that time with former Potus Clinton and Hitler Weasel Bush Sr meeting with refugees from Katrina."

I grew up in Seaside Height and we lost nearly everything in Sandy. There was no power, no gasoline, and no water available for weeks. In New Jersey! The response from the Obama administration was horrible. We got almost zero help from the federal government. It was almost two years before our HUD loan was approved. By that time, we had already decided to move out.

pterochromics said...

- @Nina, wasn't that due to Congress refusing to release ro send aid, rather than "the Obama administration"...?

Nina S. said...

No, the federal response, especially in the early going, is up to FEMA. They did a very poor job getting generators and water out to people. It was very cold at night without power. All of these supplies were piled up and available, yet they couldn't get their act together to distribute them. Obama said all the right things before the election, but after it was over the incompetence of FEMA was ridiculous.

pterochromics said...

- Open thread Wednesday, hmm. My thought is that mass insanity seems to have taken over. Most people are so steeped in the poisonous tea of anger and hatred, and so hair-trigger ready to take umbrage and react as though it's some immediate and lethal personal attack, that there are very few who even try to think rationally and express ideas logically. Common sense has become increasingly rare, and increasingly rejected when it does appear.
- It's impossible to have an actual *discussion* about issues, because it almost instantly turns into noting more than the verbal equivalent of agitated apes flinging their turds around. Homo sapiens, what a laugh - more like Homo insipidens.
- And to think that many refuse to "believe" that humans and apes shared a common ancestor, even though our two species behave *far* more similarly, than differently... :p

PilotX said...

Just curious Brotha Still a Panther, have you watched Ken Burns' special? If so what did you think?

Anonymous said...

"Watching planes and helicopters fly into makeshift landing zones in the Vietnam series made me scratch my head when NPR reported that planes couldn't land in Puerto Rico because there was no electricity or navigation. People have forgotten that navigation is nice, but not necessary in emergency situations."

I don't know what Still a Panther thought, but I thought this Vietnam documentary was pretty good, at least the segment I saw. Ken Burns usually does a good job. Now I might figure out how I can watch the whole thing.

As to the planes in Puerto Rico, I assume they mean commercial passenger jetliners aren't able to land there normally with the airport infrastructure damage. I'm sure the military will be able to make arrangements for their aircraft to get in to deliver aid. The military has cargo helicopters and Ospreys that can land vertically. Don't even need a proper runway.

PilotX said...

The runways should be mostly intact as there is some commercial traffic in and out. Even so Air Force cargo planes can land almost anywhere.

field negro said...

Miguel @10:47, u are lying. How sid u get power to get on the Internet? Besides, your IP address says something totally different.🤔

You tumpbots are just like your leader: one big lie after another.

Anonymous said...

Having been pardoned for his lawlessness by Trump, Joe Arpaio has sworn to never give up the fight to prove Barack Obama is not an American citizen. He's going to chase that Kenyan birth certificate under they put him in the ground

Someone might want to tell that guy that Republicans have moved on to different pernicious lies. They are bored with Birtherism now.

Anonymous said...

The birth certificate Obama released is a fake.

Kenyan CIA said...

We know. We planted it.

dinthebeast said...

pterochromics:

To quote Joe Bob Briggs, "we look like monkeys because god made us to look like monkeys."

And you trolls speculating about Oakland are adorable.

-Doug in Oakland

Are we tired on winning yet? said...

Tom Price, a fiscal conservative, in trouble for wasting taxpayer money as is Scott Pruitt. We're spending a million a pop on trump's vacations. His health care plan failed. Losing half of your staff in less than 6 months. Wow, I never thought I'd miss W.

mike from iowa said...

Fact Jack said...

"Then Fact Jack changed his story precipitously- Blacks are only 28% of the population of Oakland,"

You really are retarded, aren't you?

Nothing changed in my story

28% doe not reconcile with Oakland is heavily black. Need a dictionary?

Katie said...

Yīshēng is a genius said...
"Michelle Obama on how white women (stupidly) voted against their best interests:"

How about when Michelle Obama voted for Barack over Hillary?

Did she vote against her best interests by not voting for a woman?

Anonymous said...

"How about when Michelle Obama voted for Barack over Hillary?

Did she vote against her best interests by not voting for a woman?"


I don't think she is implying that women should always vote for a female candidate. She is saying that Trump, because of his personal characteristics, is bad for women, regardless of his gender.

Trump is, in fact, super sexist. He views all women as either irritants, if they have the audacity to disagree with him, or fuckholes, useful only for his sexual gratification. However, for many women, it turns out that wasn't a huge concern as far as voting was concerned. They won't have to interact with him personally, so who really cares if he's offensive, or a sexual assaulter?

More to Michelle Obama's point, though, his administration will mean lots of policies that are lousy for women. And he's not uniquely bad in that respect; his whole damn party supports anti-women policies. So what should really be the moral of the story? Not that women shouldn't vote for Trump, but that women should never vote for any Republican, ever.

teh stupid said...

Did she vote against her best interests by not voting for a woman?
-------------
Katie must be a republican because she's an idiot. Jesus, these people are really really stoooooooopid.

Fred Sanford said...

anon 6:12pm, don't waste your time explaining anything to Katie. She's kinda dumb.

mike from iowa said...

Roy Moore is a shoe-in for the Senate because- http://www.thedailybeast.com/roy-moore-failed-to-disclose-massive-amount-of-income-on-his-senate-ethics-form

Another ethically challenged wingnut, racist bastard-just what wingnuts love.

mike from iowa said...

After Obama the Magnificent spent time in Houston he was in Nawlins working with Habitat for Humanity. For wingnuts HfH includes 50000 feet of living room space like Drumpfuck has in his golded dome in NYC.

Alternate Facts Jack said...

Wait, wasn't Obamacare supposed to be eliminated day one of the trump presidency or was that a lie? Was 't the wall supposed to go up on day one?

Anonymous said...

With most Puerto Ricans that live in Puerto Rico are receiving federal assistance (aka "welfare")...it is easy to see why the POTUS is in no hurry to send them any aid. Especially since Puerto Ricans are classified as "colored people.."

Bold, James Bold said...

"His health care plan failed. Losing half of your staff in less than 6 months."

You realize that Congress writes the laws, don't you?  Actually, lobbyists do it.  The last Obamacare repeal was deliberately sunk by RINOs led by Juan "Keating Five/Gang of 8" McPain.  Every time one of these things fails, we uncover more Uniparty-owned swamp denizens to remove with primary challenges.

"28% doe not reconcile with Oakland is heavily black."

Earth to Mikey, Earth to Mikey... "heavily" and "majority" are not synonyms.  28% is more than twice the US fraction.  That IS "heavily."

"Did she vote against her best interests by not voting for a woman?
-------------
Katie must be a republican because she's an idiot."

This example of leftard "argument" is classic.  Worth the price of admission right there.

Anonymous said...

With most Puerto Ricans that live in Puerto Rico receiving federal assistance (aka "welfare")...it is easy to see why the POTUS is in no hurry to send them any aid. Especially since Puerto Ricans are classified as "colored people.."

Anonymous said...

obamacrimes.com

mike from iowa said...

Earth to Baldy, Earth to Baldy- Blacks don't want you. Give it up and quit whining about not being born black.

Anonymous said...

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-defsra_WPLk/WcxOWsuGTdI/AAAAAAAAF4c/Dx10olTFOyI7SWAZVhEOS_CCtnc5wEJTACLcBGAs/s1600/murder%2Bstatistics%2B2013.jpg

Bold, James Bold said...

"Blacks don't want you."

Funny, I don't see them running off to Black countries to get away from White police, White government and White people like me.  They all want to run TO here.  This "White supremacy" is an in-demand good among Blacks.

"Give it up and quit whining about not being born black."

You project like an IMAX, Mikey.  No White in their right mind wants to even be around Blacks.  The only way you can think that way is to (a) be a naïf with no experience whatsoever with Blacks beyond the Potemkin images on the Talmudvision, or (b) a brainwashed Marxtard who cannot learn from what they've seen.

Given how White western Iowa is, you look like (a).  We'll see if you can maintain this when the sewage which flowed from Shitongo to Davenport reaches you.

BTW, I've got my chemistry numbers done.  They look good.  I'm go for lab-scale trials.

Lilacpr said...

There are numerous bona fide reports on radio that the diesel and gasoline that is supposed to be shipped to other parts of the island for the repair trucks etc., to be able to work with, are bieng sold to the highest bidder in San Juan. Also that there are numerous ships with humanitarian aid, stuck there and not allowed to unload! Unbelievable! I would never have believed human beings could be capable of such coldness. But they better remember karma!!!

Big Black James Bold, a brotha who can create a complete sentence said...

Hey, it's the supposed genius James the Bitch. The guy who can't form a proper sentence but claims to have a perfect SAT. Feel free to ignore his idiotic ramblings as the rest of the sane people here do. I guess his frothing at the mouth insane babbling is because his chosen president is failing instead of playing 4D chess as our resident moron claims. I would love to see the look on James' face when he sees a happy interracial couple. One of "his" women happy with a brotha when he knows no women will give him the time of day. That must burn him up. Burn baby burn.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Anonymous said...

Big Black James Bold, a brotha who can create a complete sentence said...
"Hey, it's the supposed genius James the Bitch. The guy who can't form a proper sentence but claims to have a perfect SAT."

Reminds me of this clip from "The Simpsons":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKYz2M6zoII

Bold, James Bold said...

"The guy who can't form a proper sentence but claims to have a perfect SAT."

That's a sentence fragment.  It lacks a proper subject.

It's also factually wrong as I only claimed to have a perfect math SAT, as well as 5's on the AP Calculus BC and both halves of the AP Physics exam.  I can prove these things.  Who's willing to pony up the dough to bet that I can't?  Minimum bet is $100,000 but I'm offering 2:1 odds.


"I would love to see the look on James' face when he sees a happy interracial couple."

A coal-burning landwhale doesn't count as "happy" in my book, and every last one I've known personally has since divorced.  Know how a Black boyfriend is like a woman's period?  They both go away when she gets pregnant.

"One of "his" women happy with a brotha when he knows no women will give him the time of day."

Once they go Black, we won't LET them back.

Bold, James Bold said...

"Sorry Vlad. We knew Hillary was corrupt a long time ago. We don't need you to soft peddle it to us"

Us on the alt-right knew that too, and also that it's "soft-pedal (the pedal on the piano which makes the hammer hit only one string out of three).

"My thought is that mass insanity seems to have taken over. Most people are so steeped in the poisonous tea of anger and hatred, and so hair-trigger ready to take umbrage and react as though it's some immediate and lethal personal attack, that there are very few who even try to think rationally and express ideas logically."

You have spent the last several decades using identity politics against Christians, males and especially Whites.  Now they're adopting identity politics in self-defense, and saying "FUCK YOU NIGGER!"  Honestly, what did you expect?  Hie your ass to Liberia while you still can.

James is kinda dumb said...

Wow, more ranting from our unhinged buddy. I guess we can safely conclude that James is not an inventor, orbital engineer or author nor does he have an above average IQ. In fact the evidence shows the opposite. We have to conclude that our resident racist is nothing more than a typical dimwitted internet troll which he has already admitted to being. I bet he has a Forrest Gump haircut and everything.

pterochromics said...

James Mold ranted:
"You have spent the last several decades using identity politics against Christians, males and especially Whites."


- I've been using "identity politics" against myself?
- That does not make any sense whatsoever. Even though I did reject mad-made religion and adopt direct Spirituality, which according to the fright-wing, means one cannot possibly even acknowledge Jesus, never mind be a Christian.
- And yes, silly me, I keep forgetting that one *absolutely cannot* be any of those things, never mind all three, and dedicate oneself to something like "liberty and justice FOR *ALL*". Or, wait, that was written by Thomas Jefferson, and genetic testing of his remains turned up, if I remember correctly, some Lebanese DNA, so I guess those ideals are not "white" after all...?

- As for my comment regarding mass insanity, I find it telling that Mr. Mold delusionally believes that "most people" somehow means HIM PERSONALLY, and otherwise is exactly equivalent to "white 'Christian' males". But HEY!, no narcissism or paranoia *there*!, naaaaaaaaaah.....
- Meanwhile, most reasonably-capable white Christian males - and females BTW - seem to do OK, and better than OK, despite the supposed "war against a white christmas" or whatever subliminal satanic message they "beeeLEEEEV" Starbucks is putting on its coffee cups.

- Hmmmmm, come to think of it, in addition to Jefferson having some Middle Eastern, meaning "non-white", genes, I've also heard that Jesus had *Jewish* parents and was himself a Rabbi ((meaning "teacher" FWLIW)), OMG! OMG! OMG! So that means Christianity is also not a "white" belief system OMG! OMG! OMG!
- Oh wait, we don't have to panic - all the pictures in the religious pamphlets and on the Eternal Web Sites show that he was White, and looks kinda like a cross between David Bowie and Boy George, so I guess it's OK for whites to be Christians after all...

-

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