Tuesday, September 24, 2019

Is it time?

Image result for impeach images   The following article was written by Quin Hillyer for the Washington Examiner. And it outlines why Mr. trump should be impeached.

I am cut and pasting this one because of all the articles calling for Mr. trump to be impeached, this one does the best job of laying out why the crime boss in chief may have crossed his final line.   

"Based simply on what President Trump has admitted to, combined with one piece of as-yet-uncontradicted reporting, Trump has committed impeachable offenses in his dealings with Ukraine.
To understand why, let’s do something that should be second-nature, especially to journalists, but which very few people practice anymore: Let’s analyze the situation while removing all names and all partisan and ideological affiliations. Let’s also stipulate that the targets of the president’s interest (in this case Hunter and Joe Biden) are guilty as sin. (They probably are not guilty of criminal wrongdoing, but let’s assume they are.)

We know, because (1) the president said so this weekend and (2) an uncontradicted Wall Street Journal report detailed the intensity with which the president did it, that the president of the United States urged a foreign leader to investigate U.S. citizens who are not under U.S. investigation and who are not fugitives from U.S. justice. Absent any explanations not yet known, this is bizarre.
There are times when the U.S. government intervenes in matters of foreign investigations to demand that U.S. citizens receive due process. In other words, U.S. interests are ensuring that American citizens have adequate defenses against foreign kangaroo courts. There also are times when U.S. citizens have been duly indicted in U.S. courts but have fled justice. In those cases, the U.S. government, even including the president, might press foreign governments to help extradite the U.S. fugitive.  

Never in my conscious memory, though, have I heard of an American president urging a foreign nation to investigate specific U.S. citizens who were not on the lam from American law. (I welcome correction here, but either way, the examples would have to be vanishingly rare.) For this to happen, in any instance, would be outlandish, especially if there is no obvious U.S. security interest in pursuing the American targets. The president is responsible for the U.S. system of justice, not for alleged (but very vague) violations, by Americans, of foreign law.

Now add the element of the specific identity of the American citizens whom the president wants targeted. These aren’t some sort of U.S.-based international mobsters. These aren’t any of a number of American businessmen trading influence and cutting corners in international commerce. Instead, these happen to be the president’s main perceived political rival, and his son.

In short, these circumstances involve a president using the prestige of his office to urge a foreign government to harass the president’s main political rival. In such a case, it doesn’t even matter if the political rival is guilty. Even if the rival is guilty of some foreign violation, that is not a reasonable excuse for the president to use such pressure. Remember, there are so far no substantive allegations — zero, zilch, nada — that either the rival or his son broke U.S. law. The president has no authority or legitimate interest in this based on his public office; his only interest here is political, meaning to hurt his rival.

That the president’s interests in this matter are personal/political rather than legitimately public is confirmed by the extraordinary efforts made by the president’s personal, private lawyer (I'm referring to Rudy Giuliani, not Michael Cohen) to pressure the foreign government in the same direction. The lawyer has acknowledged that he regularly briefed the president on these efforts, that he used the State Department to line up his interactions with Ukraine’s president for this purpose, and that the Ukrainians offered to reopen the investigation specifically in the same conversations in which they begged for a formal meeting between the two nations’ presidents. Yet the lawyer insisted he was acting in his capacity as the U.S. president’s personal lawyer, specifically (as paraphrased by the Washington Post) to “make sure” the rival “didn’t become president without having to answer” for the alleged corruption.

Remember, both the president and his lawyer have now acknowledged the essentials of this situation. The lawyer carried on these efforts for months, while reporting to the president. The president used an Oval Office phone call to emphasize his interest — eight times, reportedly — in the case. If these reports remain uncontradicted, and barring context that makes them more palatable, this is a big deal.
Already, then, even without a suggested quid pro quo involving U.S. military assistance, what we appear to have is an entirely illegitimate mingling of the president's personal political interests with his diplomatic and law enforcement powers.

This alone would be impeachable, and far worse than anything Trump was suspected of in connection with the whole Russia-collusion business. It would represent an attempt on Trump's part to leverage the presidential office to get a personal favor from the leader of a foreign country desperately needing U.S. support against Russia. And Trump was supposedly asking this foreign leader for the personal favor of investigating American citizens not accused of violating U.S. law. Naturally, it came without any guarantee or request for due process for the American citizens involved.

Now add in the element of military assistance. The president and his lawyer say there was no direct quid pro quo. We’ll see. The president was ambivalent about assisting Ukraine and was in fact slow-walking the assistance, even though the American public, through its representatives, had specifically authorized it. Ukraine needed the assistance desperately enough that an inappropriate presidential request might have seemed like a lot more than a friendly ask.

This would be a manipulation and misuse of American aid, taxpayer-financed, for a purely political interest of the president’s. Remember, in this case the president did not release the aid again until after press reports began suggesting that the aid delay was somehow tied to the president’s political interests. He made no other substantive explanation for why the aid was now justified when a month earlier he had felt necessary to delay its delivery.

Even if the president’s rival and his son were guilty of violating Ukrainian law, all of the above-mentioned presidential behavior would be impeachable. There was no national-security interest involved in prosecuting the rivals, no readily apparent American system-of-justice interest, and no other known “reason of state” why these particular American citizens should be particularly targeted.
Finally, if the quid pro quo were explicit or directly hinted at, the case for removal would be such a slam-dunk that it should be accomplished within mere months. Either way, unless Trump convincingly walks back his own and Giuliani's remarks in the last few days confirming the broad gist of these reports, the pressure alone merits removal from office." [Source]

*Pic from politico.com

123 comments:

dinthebeast said...

It's not if he should be impeached, but when. Since the senate would acquit him in a heartbeat and allow his campaign to begin braying "TOTAL EXONERATION!!" just in time to get him reelected, they should hold the impeachment hearings on live TV a few weeks after the conventions, when it might actually mean something.

If that seems like too cynical of a strategy to you, just say "Merrick Garland" a couple of times and you'll know what to do and when to do it.

There's also the "extra $140 million" thingie that someone should be made to explain under oath.

And Fergus has until the end of Wednesday to give a video deposition in the lawsuit against him and his bodyguard over a protester getting punched (on video) outside of Trump Tower.

This is what you get when you elect a mobbed up carnival barker to the presidency, and I sincerely hope that the incoming DOJ recognizes the difference between prosecuting one's political rivals and not allowing another lawless precedent to be established like dubya's torture, Reagan's Iran-Contra, and Nixon's Watergate.

Had any of them met with actual legal consequences for their crimes, we might not be dealing with this corrupt bullshit without a clear legal recourse.

-Doug in Oakland

Anonymous said...

Clearly, impeachment won’t result in Trump’s removal from office, as the utterly unprincipled Senate Republicans will acquit him.

But even as a device to sway public opinion, it’s hard to say what the effect would be. Very few people watch C-SPAN, so voters’ perception of any impeachment hearing will be filtered through the lens of the news media, much of which seems hopelessly addicted to bothsides-ism.

If the media try to be “fair” by presenting unambiguous evidence of Trump’s unethical abuses of power as “Democrats say X, while Republicans say Y” — as if there is no such thing as objective reality but only a multitude of equality valid opinions — then an impeachment hearing will be worthless or even counterproductive.

This is why Pelosi and company have spent so much time dithering around, worrying whether an impeachment hearing could change absolutely nobody’s view of Trump while at the same time increasing wingnuts’ voting turnout by making them angrier.

PilotX said...

Yes.

mike from iowa said...

Time? Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy past time!

anotherbozo said...

I'm still at a loss re: the electorate. Why aren't the majority for impeachment? What's the rationale? Afraid of Pence as a replacement? Unaware of the seriousness of his (admitted) crimes? Anticipating that since the Senate isn't likely to convict, it's a waste of time?

I honestly don't get it. The Mobster-in-Chief is at 40%, clearly not a majority. does that mean 10% of Dems are undecided?

Impeach! said...

Yes!

Trump should be impeached for the crime of Joe Biden abusing the power of his office by threatening to withhold aid from Ukraine unless they fired a prosecutor investigating his son Hunter Biden's corruption.

Also, he should be impeached for Hillary colluding with the Russians by paying for disinformation in an attempt to influence the 2016 election.

His campaign being spied upon by the Obama administration using the false disinformation as a pretext is an impeachable offense on its own.

And don't forget the crime of being falsely accused of Russian collusion and being investigated for two years by Obama administration holdovers.

Anonymous said...

anotherbozo said...
"I honestly don't get it."

You sure as fuck don't.

Fake News Update said...

>If the media try to be “fair” <

You don't have to worry about that.

Privilege said...

A new study from Georgetown University reveals that if the student bodies of the 200 most selective American colleges were enrolled solely on objective SAT or ACT aptitude test scores, their student bodies would increase from 66 percent white under the current subjective system to 75 percent white.

The black/Latino percentage under a test-only system would fall from the current 19 percent of the student bodies of the top 200 colleges to 11 percent.

More surprisingly, the Asian percentage would drop from 11 percent to 10 percent, even though Asian test scores have been climbing throughout this century.

And boys would do better than under the present arrangement, increasing from 50 percent of the current student body to 54 percent.

In other words, under a less subjective system of college admissions, the big winners would be the Current Year’s designated losers: white boys.

We live in an era in which we are constantly lectured that white males are always ruining everything for everybody else by their feelings of entitlement and privilege. But when it comes to fancy colleges, the opposite is true. At any above-average test score, 18-year-old white guys are less likely to attend a prestige college and more likely to enlist in the military, enter a trade, or go to a local non-elite Directional State college.

A study by Caroline Hoxby of Stanford and Christopher Avery of Harvard found that the students scoring at the 90th percentile who are least likely to apply to elite colleges are red-state white males. If our nations’ rich colleges wanted to search out potential high achievers who are most marginalized under the present system, high-scoring white guys in flyover America are the main source of untapped talent.

But nobody is interested in hearing that message these days.


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Anonymous said...

Black Girl, 11, shot in head by stray bullet while inside Harvey home on day before birthday

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Anonymous said...

"The following article was written by Quin Hillyer for the Washington Examiner. And it outlines why Mr. trump should be impeached."


WOLF.....WOLF.....WOLF.....

PilotX said...

"But nobody is interested in hearing that message these days."

No, no one is.

Anonymous said...

TRUMP 2020!!

Paradoctor said...

Trump 20 to life.

Paradoctor said...

He has committed so many crimes that the timing of impeachment hearings is irrelevant. The House could hold hearing after hearing, starting now, each establishing his guilt under a different charge, with 'yes he is guilty of this too, let us move on' every single Friday news-dump, until November 2020.

The point would not be to sway the unreachable 35% cult; it would be to hang the Trump albatross around Moscow Mitch's neck, and thus target the GOP as a whole.

PilotX said...

trump pretty much ran the Nixon playbook to the letter so it will probably end the same way. He may be reelected but will be impeached soon after.

Paradoctor said...

Impeachment is honorable.

Paradoctor said...

PilotX: If we flip the Senate. Therefore I still recommend impeachment, on the drawn-out schedule I recommended above.

PilotX said...

Remember Nixon got impeached after fellow Republicans finally gave up and decided to put country first. Fox can only hide the truth for so long before reality sinks in. Reality sometimes has a way of smacking you in the face.

PilotX said...

Also another famous Republican said "you can't fool all the people all the time".

Paradoctor said...

But maybe you can fool enough of the people enough of the time.
As for Lincoln, nowadays he'd run as a Democrat; and Andrew Jackson would run as a Republican. Put not thy faith in parties.

mike from iowa said...

There is proof Shonkin investigated anyone for corruption.

Since drum0pfuck was handed the kremlin annex, 40% of stoopid fucking wingnuts have left office, not all voluntarily.

mike from iowa said...

7 year old black girl sleeping on sofa shot dead in the head as police botch a no knock search warrant. Liar cop says girl's G-ma grabbed the barrel of sub machin3e gun, butn her DNA and fingerprints weren't on the weapon. Jury deadlocked on this case twice so murdering/perjuring cop skates.

Video of start of the raid clearly shows childrens toys in the yard and on porch. No cop claimed they saw any toys so they never knew children were inside.

mike from iowa said...

Moar proof drumpfuck's failing economy is failing moar and moar....

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-confidence/u-s-consumer-confidence-plunges-in-september-idUSKBN1W91XJ

Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...

Impeach! said...

Yes!
Hey, Impeach, all of your claims have been debunked repeatedly. LOL!

Anonymous said...

None have been 'debunked'; all are matters of public record.

Privilege said...

PilotX said...
"But nobody is interested in hearing that message these days."

No, no one is.
----

You are worse than the people in your imagination are.

PilotX said...

"You are worse than the people in your imagination are."

I guess this comment makes sense to someone somewhere.

PilotX said...

"But maybe you can fool enough of the people enough of the time."

Enough people will see the corrupt scamster for what he is.

PilotX said...

https://www.mediamatters.org/rudy-giuliani/debunking-lies-about-trump-biden-ukraine-and-whistleblower

Anonymous said...

Media Matters, LOL

mike from iowa said...

Impeach and his entire diatribe go straight into File 13. Because they are garbage and as Gambler2 elegantly states, they have been debunked over and over.

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxYO88z4Gy0

Anonymous said...

Paradoctor said...
Trump 20 to life.
11:51 AM

LOL ….such delusion!!!

Anonymous said...

Climate Change is a hoax…….

Razor said...

"We have to impeach him or he may be re-elected." - people who for years told us that interfering with a presidential election is treason

Fauxcahontas said...

Did anyone at the DNC explain to Joe Biden that he'll be flying the Ukrainian-built kamikaze impeachment plane into the USS Trump, or did you just drop him in the cockpit with a fidget spinner and tell him to have a nice flight?

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mike from iowa said...

House c an impeach and then force the fucking morons in the McCTurtlefuckface Senate to convict Drumpf or themselves for the traitors they have been. Be great to watch stoopid fucking wingnuts fall on their rubber swords, so as not to actually hurt themselves committing political sooicide.

Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...


Anonymous said...

None have been 'debunked'; all are matters of public record.

1:45 PM
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Then post a couple of sources. If it's public record, you must have a source or two.

Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...


Pilotx said

"I guess this comment makes sense to someone somewhere"

2:09 PM

Nope, I don't think so. LOL!

Anonymous said...

Yes, it's over due.

PilotX said...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/pelosi-top-democrats-privately-discuss-creation-of-select-committee-for-impeachment/2019/09/24/af6f735a-dedf-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html?fbclid=IwAR2UDmqPlDcTZrUOYKNS6_TKHFqnlbspdirC7YkJ0-LfIbJlnR4BVM3MRbo

Anonymous said...

Goofy white boys should not have guns:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/deadliest-mass-shootings-in-us-history-2017-10

Anonymous said...

"Then post a couple of sources. If it's public record, you must have a source or two."

Same old tired schtick Granny? I've posted links before, and you have of course ignored them because they contradict your tenuous grasp on reality.

Try using the Google yourself, or better yet, any other search engine.

mike from iowa said...

Biden's son hadn't joined the oil company when it was being investigated for corruption.

There is no investigation needed for Bidens. Corrupt drumpfuck and his crime family, otoh, are another story altogether. Impeach and then impeach the last five stoopid fucking wingnut criminal poprusses.

Anonymous said...

Biden is done.

Dems are going to nominate the white lady.

mike from iowa said...

On both fronts—Ukraine and China—Biden’s presidential campaign insists the attacks are scurrilous. In a memo to reporters Monday, a campaign spokesman called the corruption allegations at the heart of the charge “a roundly debunked conspiracy theory” that “Trump and Giuliani have tried to manipulate the media into repeating.” Schweizer’s reporting laid out a conspicuous timeline, but didn’t establish any actual connection between the Bidens’ trip to China and Bohai’s Bank of China-backed venture. Hunter Biden wasn’t even an equity owner while his father served as vice president, according to his attorneys, and he has said that he conducted no business while on that 2013 trip.


Schweizer's character assassination attempts were unfounded against HRC but effective, none the less. That is what he is doing here. Just trying to damage Biden's image to protect and deflect from Drumpf's array of criminal activities.

Schweizer's diatribe against HRC was debunked before it was released.

Anonymous said...

"On both fronts—Ukraine and China—Biden’s presidential campaign insists the attacks are scurrilous."

I'm sure if Don Jr. were being paid by foreign businesses for absolutely nothing in return you wouldn't call it "scurrilous".

Or if Trump's campaign had paid for Russian disinformation on Hillary you wouldn't excuse it by claiming Trump didn't know about it so it was cool.

Or if the Trump FBI wiretapped and spied on the Biden campaign you wouldn't claim it was justified.

So, fuck you.

mike from iowa said...

Anymoose, give it up/ Your side does not have the facts because you don't care about facts. You throw shit out and you all swallow it as if it was the dog's truth in your alternative world.Right about now your side is 0 for infinity on proving any criminal wrongdoing on any target Fake Noizae picks for you. Give it a rest. Get a hobby. Cheat at golf. Drumpf does, it is well documented but you won't believe it.

Anonymous said...

Imagine how exhausting it must be to be an NPC. You are in a constant state of fear and outrage. Yet the source of your fear and outrage is constantly changing.

Anonymous said...

“Imagine how exhausting it must be to be an NPC. You are in a constant state of fear and outrage. Yet the source of your fear and outrage is constantly changing.”

It isn’t liberals who are constantly becoming incensed about laughable, imaginary, confected rage-bait like the War on Christmas or QAnon or Muslim no-go zones. It seems you are describing yourselves. What will Fox News tell you to be furious about next week?

Personally, I pretty consistently hate the same things all the time: the upper-classholes and the racist redneck sister-humpers who make up the modern Republican Party. Unfortunately, they are all too real.

dinthebeast said...

"Biden is done.

Dems are going to nominate the white lady."

And she is gonna kick Fergus' ass with a smile on her face.

-Doug in Oakland

dinthebeast said...

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2019/09/lets-do-this-impeachment-thing.html

-Doug in Oakland

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mike from iowa said...

Desperate kremlin annex releases paper that claims whistle blower had political bias. No shit. Everyone drumpfuck hires has a political bias against America and Democracy.

PilotX said...

"It isn’t liberals who are constantly becoming incensed about laughable, imaginary, confected rage-bait like the War on Christmas or QAnon or Muslim no-go zones."

Yup. And fears about caravans and having their guns taken and Sharia Law and MS 13.........exhausting.

PilotX said...

https://www.theroot.com/black-genius-recognized-meet-the-2019-class-of-black-1838439114

PilotX said...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1058396

PilotX said...

Priceless😂😂😂

https://www.theroot.com/donald-trump-can-t-stand-that-obama-won-a-nobel-peace-p-1838406367

Lordy, lordy said...

NEW: Democrat Senators reached out to Ukraine in May 2018 and asked for their assistance in investigating Trump

“In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/24/democrats-investigation-might-do-more-hurt-biden-than-trump/

What a shit show the Democratic party has become.

PilotX said...

https://www.theroot.com/everything-whites-think-about-affirmative-action-is-wro-1797675386

Anonymous said...

The Dems are about to get wrecked, again. Just like the collusion hoax backfired on these idiots and exposed Spygate, the biggest scandal in American history, “whistleblower-gate” is going to backfire and expose the Obama administration’s Ukrainian collusion and pay to play.

Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...

Anonymous said......
Same old tired schtick Granny? I've posted links before, and you have of course ignored them because they contradict your tenuous grasp on reality.
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Sorry, son, but you only post right wing propaganda. And my grip on reality is pretty good, as you will soon see.

Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...

Lordy, lordy said...

"NEW: Democrat Senators reached out to Ukraine in May 2018 and asked for their assistance in investigating Trump."
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Could it be that these Democratic Senators were on the intelligence committee? In your post, you didn't say which senators.

Anonymous said...

Trump released the transcript of the Ukraine call today.

Here's the 'pressure' Trump put on Zelensky:

"The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."

Impeachment is DOA.

Anonymous said...

I think what is missing in this story is that not only did Biden brag about shutting down the investigation, he also bragged that he had Obama's approval to shut it down. Just call Obama and ask him, Biden said we can.

Anonymous said...

Well now we know why Obama didn't endorse Biden's campaign.

Barry knew they were going to make Creepy Joe the sacrificial lamb.

PilotX said...

"Just like the collusion hoax backfired on these idiots and exposed Spygate"

Spygate? Care to elaborate? And there was collusion and it's still going on now just with Ukraine.

PilotX said...

The Russian trolls are out in force. They are working overtime protecting donny.

PilotX said...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/politics/live-news/trump-impeachment-inquiry-09-25-2019/index.html

Getting close, only need 7 more votes to impeach. Good luck guys.😆

Anonymous said...

PilotX said...
"The Russian trolls are out in force. They are working overtime protecting donny."

Peak NPC comment.

Jesse said...

A politically biased “whistleblower” who didn’t even hear the conversation started an impeachment inquiry into The President of the United States.

That’s.....unreal.

Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...

PilotX said....

"The Russian trolls are out in force. They are working overtime protecting donny."

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Yup, but we were expecting that. It's what they get paid to do. Their aim is to convince the public that there is no "there there."

PilotX said...

https://www.theroot.com/department-of-homeland-security-prioritizes-white-supre-1838447921

Just wow.

Ivan Beatinov said...

Granny NPC:

"Every comment that doesn't conform to the narrative I adhere to is from a Russian troll."

You people are a hoot.

PilotX said...


"Peak NPC comment."

Says an anonymous troll. You can't make this shit up.😂 Irony is lost on trolls.

Anonymous said...

PilotX said...

"Just wow."

The government's War on Whites continues, even with a 'white supremacist" president.

Just wow.

PilotX said...

"You people are a hoot."

glad to amuse you Boris.😂

Anonymous said...

"Says an anonymous troll."

NPCs have the luxury of not being anonymous, because they parrot the line of power.

Троль said...

A drug addict used his father’s status as VP to enrich himself, engaging in quid pro quo with foreign countries— while dating his dead brother’s wife. His dad then publicly admits to obstructing an investigation involving his son. Remind me how this became about Trump over Biden?

mike from iowa said...

Kremlin annex, which is stocked with stable geniuses sent their talking points meant for house republicans to Democrats who immediately got it out on Twitter.

Drumpfuck the dumbfuck singlehandedly makes Keystone Kops look like Interpol.

Fucking morons made America the laughingstock of the world in spades.

mike from iowa said...

Biden didn't stop the prosecution, there wasn't one. That was the problem with the guy, he wouldn't investigate corruption and nearly everyone in the EU and other places wanted him removed, fact of life, unless you are a faithful follower of the pathological liar in cheap.

mike from iowa said...

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/plaintiff-in-chief-excerpt-donald-trump-first-lawsuit.html

Read all about the racist fucking pig Drumpfuck.

PilotX said...

"Biden didn't stop the prosecution, there wasn't one."

Give up Mike, you're talking to Fox news and ditto heads. The brain capacity just isn't there for them to grasp complex concepts.

dinthebeast said...
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dinthebeast said...

"Every comment that doesn't conform to the narrative I adhere to is from a Russian troll."

Nope, some of them are genuine American idiots. The "narrative I adhere to" has another name: reality, as defined as all of the stuff that's still around after you stop believing in it.

-Doug in Oakland

mike from iowa said...

PilotX, I was about a mile south of Spencer, iowa airport watching a turboprop bank in for a landing between flocks of geese. What's a goose in the cockpit worth? Moar or less if it comes in through windshield uninvited?

Drumpf continues to say Biden stopped the prosecution. He did not. He got the prosecutor removed for malfeasance....not doing his job and Biden was not the only one trying to remove the slug.

Anonymous said...

The Democratic Party just went full retard.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The Dems are about to get wrecked, again. Just like the collusion hoax backfired on these idiots and exposed Spygate, the biggest scandal in American history, “whistleblower-gate” is going to backfire and expose the Obama administration’s Ukrainian collusion and pay to play.
10:05 AM


Yup, they just about guaranteed Trumps re-election.

Anonymous said...

While the democrats are playing checkers Trump is playing chess and they will play right into his hands.

mike from iowa said...

Here are the inbred Russian trolls ignoring reality for their fever dreams of keeping drumpfuck the pathological lying, retarded, corrupt dumbfuck in office.

mike from iowa said...

Drumpfuck can't spell chess. There is no way he can play it according to the rules, but you and I know he would cheat at it like he does everything else he claims to be good at.

Admit it, trailer trash. He didn't win the last election in 2016. He got beat by over three million legally cast votes and needed Russia's help, which he accepted gracefully, to do it.

mike from iowa said...

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/matt-gaetz-suddenly-clams-up-after-accidentally-revealing-trump-gave-gop-lawmakers-a-sneak-peek-at-ukraine-call/

The stoopidity and corruptness of the wingnuts is clearly undeniable.

Anonymous said...

Maybe it is just me, but the Democrats strategy of trying to impeach Trump because he encouraged Ukraine to look into the corruption of Joe Biden's son does not seem like a winning strategy.

Especially when Joe Biden was on camera bragging how he threatened Ukraine with financial penalties unless they dropped the investigation into his son's crooked dealings.

mike from iowa said...

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/trump-asks-ukraine-to-investigate-bidens-son-on-live-tv-thats-corruption/

Drumpf's sit down comedy routine. I was elected to get rid of corruption.

mike from iowa said...

Total Bullshit! Biden said nothing ever about dropping the investigation. He and everyone else wanted Shonkin fired because he refused to investigate corruption. Stop the goddamn lying you goddamn liars.

Especially when Joe Biden was on camera bragging how he threatened Ukraine with financial penalties unless they dropped the investigation into his son's crooked dealings.




To summarize, Biden threatened to withhold aid if the prosecutor wasn’t fired, and he was. Importantly, Biden was not freelancing, but was acting as a representative of President Barack Obama. There’s no evidence that Biden was helping his son. Shokin’s former deputy, who quit in frustration over his boss’s intransigence, told Bloomberg in May that the U.S. wasn’t pushing to drop probes of Burisma. “There was no pressure from anyone from the U.S. to close cases against Zlochevsky,” he said. “It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015.”

In effect, Biden’s pressure to install a tougher prosecutor probably made it more likely, not less, that Burisma would be in the cross hairs. But since then, the Ukrainian government has not produced any evidence of wrongdoing by Burisma, and the current prosecutor general said in May there was none. A Ukrainian interior-minister official told the Daily Beast that though Ukraine has no evidence that either Biden broke the law, the government would investigate further if the U.S. formally requested it. Hunter Biden has left Burisma’s boa

PilotX said...

"Yup, they just about guaranteed Trumps re-election."

He will be impeached and the senate will pressure him to resign. You heard it first here.

PilotX said...

"While the democrats are playing checkers Trump is playing chess"

I thought he was playing 4D chess😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

PilotX said...

"What's a goose in the cockpit worth?"

Nothing, certain government types will take it from us to study the make and model. We don't get to keep it😝

mike from iowa said...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-impeachment-news-latest-ukraine-rudy-giuliani-fox-news-chris-hahn-a9119401.html

With lawyers like stoopid fucking Screwdy Rudy, drumpf might just as well start packing his prison orange jumpsuits. Only hire the dumbest sonsabitches on the face of the Earth. Howz that working out for you stoopid fucking morons?

mike from iowa said...

Drumpf will go ballistic when he finds Spencer iowa geese to be Canada geese. Next stop.... war with Trudeau. And moar tariffs.

dinthebeast said...

"While the democrats are playing checkers Trump is playing chess"
Fergus is playing with his little, pink, dick, meanwhile, we just got to 218.

-Doug in Oakland

Anonymous said...

retard from iowa: "Biden forced Ukraine to fire the prosecutor because he WASN'T investigating Biden's son's corruption.

Now I see.

dinthebeast said...

Greta Thunberg nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. Cue Fergus losing his shit in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

-Doug in Oakland

Fake News Update said...

CNN Cut 540 Words To Frame Trump For ‘Favor’ He Never Requested

https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/25/cnn-just-yadda-yadda-yaddad-540-words-to-frame-trump-for-favor-he-never-requested/#.XYvr6bd00yo.twitter

Anonymous said...

"Greta Thunberg nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize"

Child manipulated to the point of emotional breakdown by leftists who use children to push their agenda over a non-existent crisis rewarded by clownish leftist organization.

So cool.

Anonymous said...

"Child manipulated to the point of emotional breakdown by leftists who use children to push their agenda over a non-existent crisis rewarded by clownish leftist organization."

Nonexistent? Please share your credentials because personally I'll take the word of atmospheric scientists who have spent threir entire adult lives studying a very very complex issue over an anonymous troll on a blog. Color me silly like that.

PX

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dinthebeast said...

Bill Barr needs to fuck right off.

-Doug in Oakland

Anonymous said...

TRUMP 2020!!

mike from iowa said...

Drumpfuck signed trade deal with Japan which is the exact same deal Obama had through TPP that Drumpf tossed overboard.

mike from iowa said...

At that time, Barr said Mueller’s work proved there was “no collusion” between the Trump campaign and Russia. That was inaccurate, as Vox’s Andrew Prokop has explained:

“If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state,” Mueller writes. “We are unable to reach such a judgment.”

The report makes several things clear: that the Russian government tried to help Trump win, that the Trump campaign was eager to benefit from hackings targeting Democrats, that Trump’s campaign advisers had a host of ties to Russia, and that President Trump tried again and again to try to impede the Russia investigation.

mike from iowa said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
retard from iowa: "Biden forced Ukraine to fire the prosecutor because he WASN'T investigating Biden's son's corruption.

Now I see.

8:33 PM

Show me a single provable account that Shonkin ever investigated Hunter Biden. That is all I am asking for is real proof to back your litany of lies. We both know you can't do it, dumbass!

mike from iowa said...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/09/25/california-police-man-tried-set-homeless-man-fire-took-photos/2443354001/

I set a man on fire, just to watch him burn
I await congratulations from Drumpfuck because it is my turn.

(apologies to Johnny Cash for wrecking his lyrics)

Anonymous said...

"Show me a single provable account that Shonkin ever investigated Hunter Biden"

He was investigating the company that was paying Hunter Biden, ergo, Biden's son was part of the investigation.

Anonymous said...

TRUMP 2020!!

Anonymous said...

Never in my conscious memory, though, have I heard of an American president urging a foreign nation to investigate specific U.S. citizens who were not on the lam from American law. (I welcome correction here, but either way, the examples would have to be vanishingly rare.) For this to happen, in any instance, would be outlandish, especially if there is no obvious U.S. security interest in pursuing the American targets. The president is responsible for the U.S. system of justice, not for alleged (but very vague) violations, by Americans, of foreign law.

It is amazing how specifically ignorant that memory is.  American law includes the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which is paraphrased thusly:

"Specifically, the anti-bribery provisions of the FCPA prohibit the willful use of the mails or any means of instrumentality of interstate commerce corruptly in furtherance of any offer, payment, promise to pay, or authorization of the payment of money or anything of value to any person, while knowing that all or a portion of such money or thing of value will be offered, given or promised, directly or indirectly, to a foreign official to influence the foreign official in his or her official capacity, induce the foreign official to do or omit to do an act in violation of his or her lawful duty, or to secure any improper advantage in order to assist in obtaining or retaining business for or with, or directing business to, any person."

The obviously-corrupt direction of $USD1 million/year to Hunter Biden for his "services" for which he had no actual expertise or other worthwhile contribution save his parental political connection is a blatant violation of the FCPA.

Now add the element of the specific identity of the American citizens whom the president wants targeted. These aren’t some sort of U.S.-based international mobsters. These aren’t any of a number of American businessmen trading influence and cutting corners in international commerce. Instead, these happen to be the president’s main perceived political rival, and his son.

The corrupt scumbags of the Dimocrap administration DID NOT EXPECT to be called to account for their blatantly obvious crimes!  NO OTHER IDENTITY could ever have perpetrated those crimes, so this investigation is obviously SPECIFIC to that.  They, and they alone, are responsible.  The Trump administration is merely holding them to account, as is right and just.

This would be a manipulation and misuse of American aid, taxpayer-financed, for a purely political interest of the president’s.

The appointment of Hunter Biden to the board of Bursima was obviously a manipulation and misuse of American aid, taxpayer-financed, for purely corrupt interest of the Obama administration's.

The claims of "corruption" need to be compared to the pressure to exonerate Jusse Smollett for his fake "hate crime" in which he attempted to blame all White people for a scheme he cooked up with his Nigerian accomplices.  Smollett managed to implicate States Attorney Foxx and the Obamas.  The connections are documented and undeniable.  When the communications are made public and the fraud exposed, will you nikker scum admit the crime and apologize?  Not likely!  You are scum and have no business existing in a high-trust White society, even for a moment.  GTFO!  You deserve only the chaotic hell you create, and you create it wherever you go.  Back to Africa, NOW!

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