Saturday, November 28, 2009

The cover up.


I am going to surprise and upset some of you with this post. (Gee field, what else is new?)

I don't agree with Google removing that image of the first lady. It's one of the first images that appeared because of the amount of hits that the blogger blog that posted it was getting, and Google, after a tremendous amount of pressure, removed it from their image search. I still think you can still see the image on Google (See the pic with this post) but they have chosen to run a disclaimer with it.

Now here is the thing: As reprehensible and repugnant as that picture is, it still should not be removed. Why? Because where an image appears on google depends on the demand for the image on the Internet. The more hits and requests for the image via the blog the further up the Google chain it goes.

Obviously this vile image of the first lady was in great demand. To pretend that it wasn't and to try and censor it now would be the equivalent of putting a band-aid on an open festering sore. I say let's see the sore and how bad it is and deal with it. A-merry-ca is too good at covering up stuff.

If we did, maybe we would get more thoughtful posts like this one, -which was inspired by the episode- and people would actually start talking to each other. (Not that I would want to do much talking with the type of person who takes the time to do these types of photo shop jobs.) Hey at least we would know they are out there and where to look for them. I hate it when this type of ignorance is close to me and I don't even know that it's there.

Oh field, stop whining, they had chimp pics of Bush and no one made this big of a deal over it. I didn't see the folks at Google scrambling to put disclaimers on those pics. That, of course, is your standard [right] wingnut response. And if you are like me you don't even try to educate and teach by explaining the difference. You just kind of let it go and chalk it up to the law of averages playing itself out on the human intelligence scale.

But you see the problems that this type of censoring can cause, so why do it? Hey, when we see it we will blog about it and point it out, and I am sure that the [right] wingnuts will defend it. But at least it will be out there in all its ugliness for us to see. A fitting simulacrum of what lurks in their vacuous minds.

116 comments:

Anonymous said...

Field,

Pictures of Bush as a chimp (or resembling one) were on of the most popular ones of his tenure. There's even a website called www.bushorchimp.com. But I will agree, allot of people think Michelle Obama is ugly.

Anonymous said...

"A fitting simulacrum of what lurks in their vacuous minds."

WTF? Are you talking about us right wingers? What are you trying to say?

Anonymous said...

That photo comes from http://celebrityape.com/. Where celebs OF ALL COLORS are pictured as apes.

Anonymous said...

"That photo comes from http://celebrityape.com/. Where celebs OF ALL COLORS are pictured as apes."

Yeah, 'but' they shouldn't do that with Blacks because many are super-sensitive. They lose sleep over matters like this. They are the one race in humanity that 'needs' to treated with kid's gloves.

Remember Imus? Don was a shockjock who made fun of all races. But when he made fun of Blacks, they were so hurt and ashamed that they went after his job. Imo, that was an over-reaction, but poor Imus lost his job anyway.

Nevertheless, what goes around comes around. He is with Fox now and won't lose his job over what he says.

Anonymous said...

btw, let us see what La incognita comes up with now.

Field Hand G said...

I agree that the pics should stay up. Then, we could ask Jesse Lee Peterson to explain how "[if] Black people are the racists these days", how do you explain the popularity of this pic? It would give Jesse Lee and his house Jigaboo, buck-dancing sambo comrades something to think about.

Anonymous said...

Believe it or not, Jesse Lee Peterson is a good man. He has done more for Blacks than anyone on this blog.

Field Hand G said...

Indeed, " a fool sees what he believes", and your anonymous guest happens to be a fool. Declaring that depictions of George Bush as a chimp are no different than those of Michelle Obama is something that a modern-day troglodite would do. Other races of people haven't been declared as being closer kin to monkeys by white America. Yeah, I know, you've never been a part of these discussions, right Anonymous? Bush is sometimes depicted as a monkey strictly for his features, not his ethnic affiliation. And furthermore, the only reason other whites may have been also depicted as monkeys is so that trash like you can declare that "they do it to everyone." Yeah, these devils haven't forgotten all of their tricks.

Anonymous said...

The blogger is the one who took it down. He was Chinese and issued an apology. He was using it to drive hits to the site. Given the nature of the site (which looked spammy to me), I'm not certain he wasn't cheating the system to manipulate the image/page rank.

--j

Hathor said...

Bush as Chimp is to Obama as The Joker.

Michelle as Gorilla is to Laura as ...

I would think anyone who took those test in high school would recognized the difference.

Then again we don't know if they didn't buy their degrees.

matw said...

A photoshoped image. It's not real, so it amounts to nothing. Google shouldn't censor. It's not their place. They are an accumulator not a referee.

I didn't pay that much attention, and at first thought that was a real picture of Michelle in total shock. My bad.

Regarding Michelle's looks, I agree with her husband "she has the right to bear arms."

field negro said...

"WTF? Are you talking about us right wingers? What are you trying to say?"

A SIMILAR I-M-A-G-E OF WHAT LURKS IN [SOME] OF THEIR E-M-P-T-Y HEADS.

Let me try again: I am not "trying" to say but saying that many right wingers view Michelle Obama the same way.

j, I think google removed it first, and then the blogger took it down and issued an apology.
BTW j, I wonder where all those hits were coming from?

"Believe it or not, Jesse Lee Peterson is a good man. He has done more for Blacks than anyone on this blog."


Jesse,is that you? What time is it out in L.A. now? :)


"but poor Imus lost his job anyway."

Anon. Imus is a lot of things, but he is not "poor".

field negro said...

"Bush as Chimp is to Obama as The Joker.

Michelle as Gorilla is to Laura as ...

I would think anyone who took those test in high school would recognized the difference."

Hathor are you trying to use logic to reason with my right wing friends?

Good luck.

Anonymous said...

What do you think has a better shot of working? Is it Patterson's self responsibility motto, or the the "blame whitey" motto? Has whitey forced black men to stop caring for their children? Has whitey forced black men to kill their women in record numbers? Has he forced them to make the inner cities cauldrons of black-on-black violence? Has he forced them to drop out of high school in huge numbers? Has he forced them to degrade the color of their woman's dark skin, and worship "mutts," to use Kanye West lingo?

Anonymous said...

Field, I loved the Malcolm X audio about House Negro and Field Negro. It was a very important speech at the time.

However, he made a few other important speeches when he returned from Mecca where he was transformed and no longer could follow the way of the Black Muslims.

Did his change of heart redefine what he saw as a Field Negro and a House Negro?

I am not trying to be sly, I am asking because he was a changed man when he returned from the Middle East.

Anonymous said...

@field -- I don't know. I do know that various blog spammers -- splogs and such try to find ways to manipulate the page rank all the time and image search rank is another way of driving traffic. I don't know how traffic he got out of it but if the guy could get the image on the first couple of pages by some method or another it's controversial enough to where people would start clicking to see what it was.

Google tries to keep their page rank and indexing methods under the deepest of secrecy but image rank isn't determined solely by hits. It's different than typing a topic into the regular search engine and watching more popular and well trafficked sites pop-up first in the result. With the image seach, stuff like image descriptions, alt tags, SEO optimization, how many images are on a page, the number thumbnails, the file name (e.g. michelle-obama-2010.jpg is better than mo.jpg) etc. matter a great deal more than traffic alone.

They're looking to deliver the right image to the image searcher without the benefit of human eyes doing the indexing so the descriptions and other tags that webmasters/hosts of the image use to tell google's image bot what the image is are much more important than clicks or popularity. Google bots can read and then rank a webpage on content+popularity (the regular results) but they can't see (the image search). Popularity doesn't rule the day because image searches can be very specific for the user. For example, if you're looking for a spotted pelican with stripes knowing or using a formula based upon a website's traffic or popularity won't help you find it but a tiny site with all the correct labeling and internet tags and a file named "spotted-pelican-stripes.jpg" will.

If the blogger knew how to manipulate the image search either by knowing what it looks for with all the technical tags or via some other technical manipulation, it would be pretty easy to bump this image to the top even without traffic and then use it to get clicks to his site. Remember, if it's between spotted-pelican-stripes.jpg + long description + all the right tags and spotted-pelican.jpg + popular site the first one will win. Since google can't see to verify it our spotted pelican could turn out to be something entirely different from the description (type in Bill Clinton and the first page has real pics and 'joke pics' all based on descriptions).

It's odd but you can image search Barack Obama right now or some random celebrity and see no-name sites appearing ahead and beside bigger sites.

--j

AbuAmirah said...

Ok, here's my take. Now, conservative asshole want to bring up that stupid ass 43 had his picture as a chimp thing and it doesn't wash with me. No one, historically, has associated white people looking like monkies. That's like the dumb bitch who said that she didn't know that associating watermelon and fried chicken with blacks was racists. This type of shit is what I've been telling white people. You can bump your gums about the job that 44 is doing, but why do you have to inject part of dude's ancestry into it? I know, I know, talking about him doesn't make me a racists. Oh yeah? How many of you voted for House Nigger #4 Alan Keyes? I thought so. People that do this take for granted that "Blacks" are a forgiving people. I wonder what would happen if I photo shopped Haley Barbour going into a barn where all the female animals were wearing lingerie? We all know how those southerners feel about their animals now don't we?

Francis L. Holland Blog said...

I agree that it's a good idea to leave it up as a barometer of where America's head is right now, and part of America's history in the making.

There's a site with photographs of negroes (that what we were called back then) being lynched and all of the greeting cards and memorabilia attached to these regular Saturday afternoon events. The site is a piece of American history and has to remain available even though the photographs are disgusting and upsetting.

I did a very graphic graphic calling attention to the fact that John McCain called his wife a "cunt" (and a "trollop") in public, in front of reporters.

Photobucket sensored the photo, but fortunately I had also uploaded it directly to blogspot, and so it is still available. (It's on my hard drive, so it will always be still available one way or another.

Let whites embarrass themselves and express the depths of their bile so that (a) we can see that we are not a "post-racial society", and (b) President Obama can fire the head of the Secret Service and get someone to protect him and his family who will actually get the job done.

What does it take to get the O-Man's attention? Does he have to have one of his parties crashed by John Hinkley (who shot Ronald Reagan), before he'll realize that his life is in danger?

Salvador Allende was a socialist president of Chile from 1970 until 1973. He thought his election was what made him president, and so he rejected offers of protection and military back-up from Fidel Castro.

In 1973, the Chilean military proved that he who has the guns has the power. They killed Allende and started a military dictatorship that lasted for over a decade.

If Barack Obama thinks that just having been elected makes him safe, then he is more foolish that he would appear to be at other times. He should bring in Colin Powell to take over the Secret Service, since Colin Powell endorsed Obama over McCain and has every reason to want Obama to be safe.

Better safe than sorry!

Francis L. Holland Blog said...

If President Obama wants to help strengthen democracy, he should first make sure that his own democratically-elected ass doesn't end up resting horizontally in a long Black Cadillac.

grinder said...

Google rankings are easily manipulated. Also, once an image gets notoriety, a lot of people who don't approve of it will search for it. Like you, Field.

field negro said...

Thanks for the info on Google, J. I know they guard their image search process like you wouldn't believe. You at least gave us some idea of how the thing works.


"If President Obama wants to help strengthen democracy, he should first make sure that his own democratically-elected ass doesn't end up resting horizontally in a long Black Cadillac."

Francis, how are things down in SA? Nice to see that you are still writing words like the above. :)

Suzan said...

But not anymore.

With a little bit of luck.

Thanks, Field!

S

A-merry-ca is too good at covering up stuff.

Frank Drackman said...

I don't get it, Gorillas have Thin lips, straight hair,long lasting monogamous sexual relationships, can develop and understand simple mechanical concepts, and kill only in self defense.
OK, Y'all both do like Banana's and throwin your shit at people...

Frank

JohnCrow said...

If Jesse Lee Peterson is a good man ,then Adolf Hitler was a saint.


To the trolls its called sarcasm GOOGLE it.

@ Field Negro I only picked up this story on an obscure blog that i read about a week ago. Did not see it on the mainstream media but i could be wrong. I agree with you about the pic.Right wingers often say that the vitriol directed at Obama is because of his "policies. I wondered what their reason for this pic would have been.

Alexis said...

Frank, die slow.

uptownsteve said...

"What do you think has a better shot of working? Is it Patterson's self responsibility motto, or the the "blame whitey" motto? Has whitey forced black men to stop caring for their children? Has whitey forced black men to kill their women in record numbers? Has he forced them to make the inner cities cauldrons of black-on-black violence? Has he forced them to drop out of high school in huge numbers? Has he forced them to degrade the color of their woman's dark skin, and worship "mutts," to use Kanye West lingo?"

"I don't get it, Gorillas have Thin lips, straight hair,long lasting monogamous sexual relationships, can develop and understand simple mechanical concepts, and kill only in self defense.
OK, Y'all both do like Banana's and throwin your shit at people..."

Ya know Field, you the man.

There's nothing like a regular spotlight on the still present and rampant anti-black racism in America that get's the bigots' backs up.

Then the defensiveness, emotion, and projection hurls out like water from a fire hydrant.

Like daylight to vampires.

Keep on doin' whatcha doin' Field.

hennasplace said...

I agree with you about free speech, and Google has the discretion to keep the add or not. Google is not the government and they can make decision what to put or not put on its website. I can see both sides of the argument and I am going to be diplomatic by saying it depends. I can understand why. Google removed the ad, and I also understand that Google goes to great lengths in protecting a surfers' rights and privacy to free speech. It may not be worth it Google to keep the ad for reasons of wanting to remain in good standing as a good company and financial reasons. Free speech is not absolute and society sets a reasonable person standard as to what obscene. With free speech come consequences either way. Google is criticized for removing and would have criticized for keeping the ad. Not a win win in this situation.

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uptownsteve said...

Now, having dapped ya..............

GO 'SKINS!!!!!

Jody said...

For those of you that don't know... this is Frank Drackman. He was recently released... how's the probation goin Frankie??? Frank is just an angry ex-doc who let greed rule his life and now he is a bitter felon who likes to lash out..

Court Sentences Man for Evading Income Taxes on Sale of Illegal Steroids

On January 4, 2008, in Houston, Texas, Vernon Albert Richardson III was sentenced to 24 months imprisonment for one count of tax evasion and ordered to pay restitution to the United States in the amount of $151,512. Richardson previously pleaded guilty to one count of tax evasion on his 2003 U.S. individual income tax return. In a signed plea agreement, Richardson admitted he sold illegal steroids for profit from 2000 through 2003 and failed to report the profit from his steroid sales on his income tax returns filed for those years. Richardson admitted that some of the money he received from the sales of steroids included approximately 98 wire transfers of funds in 2000 to Richardson’s alias name of “Frank Drackman.” Richardson also admitted in the plea agreement that the total taxable income he failed to report for the four year period was approximately $471,386 and that the total amount of income taxes he evaded for the four year period was approximately $151,512.

field negro said...

Wow Frank, Jody is all over dat ass....whoops, I know you just left the joint, maybe I shouldn't put it quite that way, but you know what I mean. :)

UTS, I honestly don't have a good feeling about my Iggles today. And yes, isn't free speech great?

Anonymous said...

"What does it take to get the O-Man's attention? Does he have to have one of his parties crashed by John Hinkley (who shot Ronald Reagan), before he'll realize that his life is in danger?"

I am sure he knows about his safety and security..he is not stupid. But he is Black and there never has been a black man in power who didn't have to put up with "extra" crap- simply because he is Black in America.

You have already admitted that America is NOT in a post-racial era. So, has it ever crossed your mind that maybe he doesn't have the support that a white president in the White House would have? I am just asking.

Of course, that is probably too scary of a thought for some folks.

uptownsteve said...

"So, has it ever crossed your mind that maybe he doesn't have the support that a white president in the White House would have?"

Or maybe more accurately, a black President would be the target of far more hate and hostility than a white president.

Thanks to Mr. Racism.

Anonymous said...

"Or maybe more accurately, a black President would be the target of far more hate and hostility than a white president.

Thanks to Mr. Racism."

Then it is settled. He could not be as powerful as a white President because he is Black.

Knowing this, let us acknowledge Obama as a very courageous man-even fearless. That's an admiration that no American can deny him. There are few men with that kind of fearlessness.

Had he been White, he would not have had to face the stress of racism. And make no mistake about it, being hated because of racism is profoundly stressful for Blacks.

uptownsteve said...

"Then it is settled. He could not be as powerful as a white President because he is Black."

I don't know how you came to that conclusion.

We often have to be twice as good or have to deal with twice as much shit as whites.

Part of deal.

Frank Drackman said...

Ya caught me Field....

and its not y'all Darkies I have a problem with, its bein born with the name "Vernon Albert Richardson" It'd make you want to sell steroids and not pay your taxes too...
and its "Vernon Albert Richardson JUNIOR" dammit, and yes, I was called "Junior" 10 million times growin up.
Enough about me, can any y'all tell me what Fried Chicked Y'all like best?? They used to say the Negruhs liked "Popeyes" but all I see in there are Mexicans...probably cause the redbeans and rice are basically refired beans.

Thanks in advance,

Frank, I mean "Vern" Richardson Jr.

Anonymous said...

"O MAN YOU BETTER THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS FOR NON WHITE PEOPLE IN AMERICA, BECAUSE WERE IT NOT FOR THEM YOUR APPROVAL RATING WOULD BE AT 39%. YEP, THAT'S WHAT IT IS AMONG WHITE FOLKS."

Thanks for the truth, Field. Actually, it was inevitable in racist America.

Anonymous said...

UTS, "I don't know how you came to that conclusion.

We often have to be twice as good or have to deal with twice as much shit as whites."

Oh, I came to that conclusion because of your comment:

"Or maybe more accurately, a black President would be the target of far more hate and hostility than a white president.

Thanks to Mr. Racism."

People can get past security to crash a White House party. That indicates a 'weakness', a gaping powerless hole- and definitely conscious/unconscious 'discounting'behavior of this President's life by others and security. What other President experienced people crashing their party at the White House? None. You see, other Presidents were taken more seriously. They weren't "magic Negroes".

Hell, I can keep people out of my own party better than that.

Anonymous said...

Frank, as a doctor did you have black patients?

Anonymous said...

"whoops, I know you just left the joint, maybe I shouldn't put it quite that way, but you know what I mean. :)"

What does that mean? And why is Miss Jody from Philadelphia on Frank's 'ass'? Is there a link to phraselogy and terms somewhere in your sidebar for newcomers?

Frank seems like a decent man who is trying his 'Jewish best' to fit in with everybody, so why are you two folks beating up on a sweet vulnerable old man? I hope you will celebrate Hanukkah Dec 11-Dec 19 with Frank as he lights one candle each day before sundown on his menorah.

Come on, Field and Jody... Don't be schmucks-Get some religion...Dec is just around the corner.

uptownsteve said...

"People can get past security to crash a White House party. That indicates a 'weakness', a gaping powerless hole- and definitely conscious/unconscious 'discounting'behavior of this President's life by others and security. What other President experienced people crashing their party at the White House?"

Heck, we've had the last two presidents either getting blow jobs or cracking their heads open on coffee tables after choking on pretzels in the White House.

krystalxlyte said...

field, i think this a good time to further expose the racist imagry in amerrykkka, i mean that particular photo (aside from the obama witchdoctor one) was quite popular among uncle toms and teabaggers alike..the history of the rascist connections between blacks and apes has been a long one since before we washed up on the shore...consider exhibit B

On the afternoon of 'black' friday i took my 7 year old cousin to see 'princess and the frog' the first film released in theaters by disney that features a black princess...yess..70 some odd years and disney is ready to feature a sista with..complete with full lips and quite a few shades darker than the hollywierd standard for acceptable for blacks..

i have to admit that disney out did themselves putting a literate, smart, bighearted heroine who is black together living in antibellum french quarter of Louisiana but...one problem in this that i just can't understand...why the hell is she a frog for most of the movie?

NowI have my beef with the mouse who is no stranger to rascismbut damn i thought as of Nov. 5 2008 all that was swept under the rug...white people were starting to want to get to know about other cultures, blacks could finally relax about their white friends spewing something racially edgy or offensive..so on and so forth.

But it was the moniker they had given the Princess: Maddy, which made me a bit peeved, since it sounded too much like Mammy.

Fot those of you not familiar with the tale of the frog prince, it is based on a Grimm’s Brothers fairy tale of a spoiled princess who reluctantly befriends a frog, who magically transforms into a handsome prince.

In modern versions of the story the transformation occurs when the princess kisses the frog. In the original Grimm version, the frog’s spell was broken when the princess threw it against the wall in disgust. (The throwing of the frog against the wall might seem barbaric, but, this was an act to remove the spell against the frog. In some other versions of the story, the princess had to chop the frog’s head off to turn him into a prince.)

Anonymous said...

"Heck, we've had the last two presidents either getting blow jobs or cracking their heads open on coffee tables after choking on pretzels in the White House."

But what does that have to do with the ability to crash the President's party?

krystalxlyte said...

When I first heard of this movie, many a red-flags came to mind. How would Disney Studios handle a film with a Black girl as the lead? Then, there was that title: Frog princess. Okay. “Frog” princess.

Why name her frog princess? Haven’t there been enough frogs kissed by other princesses? Should a little Black girl have to kiss a frog to be a Disney character? Could she have had a more original story?

The first thought that came to mind was a little female frog that was a princess, not the image of a human being (leave it to Disney to call a Black human being by an animal’s name).

Then there was the statement from Disney that she was to be a chambermaid.

Okay, I guess we Black women and girls will never get past being everyone’s maid, chamber or otherwise. I guess in everyone’s eyes, including Disney’s, we are destined to always carry out everyone’s slop jars.

Then there is the statement that voodoo abounds, since all of us Black people are such experts in sacrificing goats, chickens and burying peoples drawers and such.
Oh, yeah, I remember. I did my best Vodoun spell last night. So silly of me, to forget.

Then there is the villanous Voodoo "priest" (who looks all to close to the dolemite street pimp, drug dealer sort), named Duvalier, no less. Complete with Huggy bear swag and cocked hat.

and then theres the toofless...(yes theres toothless and then there's toofless)jive talking 'creole' backwoods firefly 'Louie' and our then mammy 'mamma odie'

Okay maybe i'm reachin, but this is amerrykkka, land of opportunity..

and I guess Disney Studios never heard of the infamous Duvaliers of Haiti. Let me guess: Disney was trying to imply that Black people are sinister and voracious like the Duvaliers. Else, why would they name one of the characters Duvalier?

Oh, and the Princess has a er, uh, Prince…who happens to not be Black...hell he's not even the artist formerly known AS prince. Far from it.

Hes from India...of all places and goes by the name 'Naveen' and is on holiday to see the jazz scene blossoming in Nawlins and if hes lucky get a taste of chocolate puddin to go and document the event as a royal conquest.

(Even then, Disney was more worried about the title being a slur against the French. Nevermind how Black Americans felt about the title.)

but lets go down the list of some of the things that were seen from the eyes of a field hand..


-buck dancing and cooning- check

-a beautiful black woman willing to lower her standards to help a man- check


-the jive talking street pimp/ crack dealer-ish comic relief villian/antagonist/protagonist - check

-"princess" in some form submissive or
reduced to a form of servitude- check

-occultic references and imagry typical to disney- check..

and some facts:

1.Originally named “Maddy” on the casting call sheet and listed as a chambermaid. Both details have been confirmed as having changed in development. The princess has a new name: Tiana.

2.The villain’s name was originally “Dr. Duvalier” and was going to be a black Voodoo magician/fortune teller. In a recently updated script, he is both a palm reader and a Voodoo practitioner.

3.The prince’s original name “Harry” has been replaced by “Naveen” in a revised script.


maybe its me and i expect too much in post imus amerrykkka but my verdict is that disney can go to hell...she soundsd too much like anna mae and theres is just so much that is wrongby all means judge for yourselves

i know Iwon't be getting it on bootleg for christmas for my little cuz.

nossee said...

gaping powerless hole

like the one on FN's down low ass

Anonymous said...

"Then there is the statement that voodoo abounds, since all of us Black people are such experts in sacrificing goats, chickens and burying peoples drawers and such.
Oh, yeah, I remember. I did my best Vodoun spell last night. So silly of me, to forget."

In a recession, you can make good money with voodoo.

Anonymous said...

"gaping powerless hole

like the one on FN's down low ass"

Does anyone wonder how deep and dark the depression runs in such a mind?

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La♥Incognita said...

Krystalxlyte, when I first heard of the movie I was open to it. Considering there were people particularly in the black community that were either outraged or delighted over the fact that the black Princess was going to have a non-black prince, That was the main topic. I for one don't have a problem with the black princess having a non-black prince. I think it's always a good thing for the world to see black women being paired with, as well as respectfully loved and desired by non-black men in the media - it's about time.

However, we know the real reason why Disney is doing it that way and not allowing two black main/romantic leads. Our non-black supremacist society holds no vested interest in black love/unity, much less a happy black fairy-tale for their non-black kids to watch. Disney is already racist, but they did it this way to "broaden" the white/non-black audience by other appeal. Our society would never show interest in a film project such as this unless they can identify with a lead character, or at least accept the characters in an abstract kind of way. Not making it seem as if its a black movie "just for them"

Also, I have already identified why some black folks, both some black women, and some black men who don't want to see "Tiana" with a non-black prince. This group (especially the black men) don't care to see black women "broadening" themselves outside the "nothing but a black man" mentality. This group does not like the idea of having less black women not being mammies/mules in abundance to be continuously taken advantage of and devalued by black men - period. This group could care less about any other aspect of the film except their own self serving concerns.

But what I find interesting, is the other group, particularly the IR extremist black female groups who so eagerly promote this film in the name of "anything but a black man" mentality. This particular extremist group either don't realize, or blatantly ignore the many subliminal racism and blatant racist stereotyping you just mentioned in this film. Mind boggling. Even so, I don't really care to see this film even if it's just for the racist stereotyping. So Disney can kiss my ass as usual.

11/29/09

Anonymous said...

"Also, I have already identified why some black folks, both some black women, and some black men who don't want to see "Tiana" with a non-black prince. This group (especially the black men) don't care to see black women "broadening" themselves outside the "nothing but a black man" mentality."

Not true. BM don't want to obstruct bw in their relationships; they only want the best for bw in their relationships.

c.c.-kathy said...

Krystalxlyte, Your deconstruction of the Disney movie is excellent. Now, I don't like Disney either, but if I was forced to go this movie, I swear, I would bring your comment with me, and point out everything you just said at the movies as the thing rolled, then I would go home and laugh my ass off.

c.c.-kathy said...

On the Michelle Obama picture, when Bush was portrayed as a chimp, first, his name George and Curious George, and then, because George actually is/was stupid, and the photo matches in the link are eerily funny.
Now, the difference with Michelle is, that she hasn't acted like George Bush, yet at Greta Van Sustern's site, the bloggers have constantly called her ugly names, and even a "chimp in a dress', to me, the attack on Michelle, is not really an attack on Michelle, it is an attack on Black women, and these types of attacks are designed to be painful and derogatory towards all Black people, not just one dumb man, George Bush. Well, I hope I wrote that where it makes sense. I am really tired, long day.

Anonymous said...

Guess some folks can't go to a movie for enjoyment and fun without finding a host of negativity to make themselves miserable. Happy Holodays!

And remember to stay away from those Disney movies, esp those with a black star in it, -it might screw you up.

maria said...

i don't know, La...i don't agree with what you say is the "real reason" they aren't both black.

i really think in american society today there is much more acceptance of same race couples--among both blacks and whites -- and still much less acceptance of inter-racial couples than you think. disney may be pushing their own envelope to have a non-white prince.

Anonymous said...

c.c. Kathy, "Now, the difference with Michelle is, that she hasn't acted like George Bush, yet at Greta Van Sustern's site, the bloggers have constantly called her ugly names, and even a "chimp in a dress', to me, the attack on Michelle, is not really an attack on Michelle, it is an attack on Black women, and these types of attacks are designed to be painful and derogatory towards all Black people,"

You nailed it, Kathy. There is a movement to hurt Blacks emotionally; and to demoralize them; and to make sure no one will ever support another black candidate for President again. Why? because it is just too painful.

Racism runs deep in America and it has everybody captive.

BTW, why have you changed your name?

c.c.-kathy said...

Anonymous,didn't change my name, just added identifier so I don't get confused:)))

La♥Incognita said...

"and still much less acceptance of inter-racial couples than you think/"

I don't really agree. And I think it could also depend on the gender of the inter-racial players in question.

You might not realize this, but there are still white and non-black people in society who still have hang-ups seeing black women as the recipients of love, respect, various resources, and even "wealth" from men outside the Black community. I want to believe that black women are still perceived as "care givers", "uplifters", and barriers of goods to the black community regardless of who she marries. Be this true or not, people who don't wish to see resources being pumped into the BC would have issue with black female gaining resources from the outside. In other words, its possible opportunity for uplifting the black race.

While in opposite, black males who particularly marry outside the black race are tolerantly accepted by non-blacks (believe it or not) and perceived as abandoners - taking their resources out of the black community. No opportunity for upfiftment to the black race in that respect. Now, there are always exemptions to all I stated. But that's another topic. Just my opinion.

..disney may be pushing their own envelope to have a non-white prince."

That is also a good point and it could also be a motive. Even so, it still might have been less risky to match an Indian prince with the black "chambermaid" or black princess oppose to a lily white princess. Again, in conjunction to what I stated above, it is not in the interest for some in white society to encourage a romantic pairing of a white prince and a black female/princess on top of all things.

Ben Keen said...

I agree with our host here. Point is, this is evil stuff, and the first step is making people being evil come face to face with their evil.

But what's more important is making people who are not evil make a damn choice. I live in zip code 20764 and am a white dude. And after this last elections I have had to make some choices about who it is I am willing to sit to next at the bar and make small talk with.

It's a hard thing to stand up and get in a fight about something and maybe I would be a better person if I had it in me to do that. The best I have been able to do so far is to when someone starts popping off their mouth like an ignorant evil fool to pick up and move away and get away from that kind of evil.

That might not be the right way to do it but at least voting with reputation is a start.

c.c.-kathy said...

@Ben,
"But what's more important is making people who are not evil make a damn choice. I live in zip code 20764 and am a white dude. And after this last elections I have had to make some choices about who it is I am willing to sit to next at the bar and make small talk with."

________________
I hear you! If we don't make a choice, we are evil too. Thank you for that.

DuchessDee said...

I am glad it was taken down. saw it several days ago and thought it was offensive. it isnt an image that i want my young girls to identify with.

c.c.-kathy said...

DuchessDee"it isn't an image that i want my young girls to identity with.'
Exactly!

trickster206 said...

Wasn't that play Aida a Disney creation? I don't believe its on Broadway anymore. Then you have Solomon's Song of Songs. I don't think I would take my kids to see that new Disney cartoon with the black princess, don't give me that its a small world crap. Even Lion King (the cartoon) didn't have any blacks and it took place in Africa!

trickster206 said...

Wasn't that play Aida a Disney creation? I don't believe its on Broadway anymore. Then you have Solomon's Song of Songs. I don't think I would take my kids to see that new Disney cartoon with the black princess, don't give me that its a small world crap. Even Lion King (the cartoon) didn't have any blacks and it took place in Africa!

Anonymous said...

Black male kills four police officers near Seattle

http://blastmagazine.com/the-news/crime-the-news-2/2009/11/four-police-officers-killed-near-seattle/

krystalxlyte said...

Guess some folks can't go to a movie for enjoyment and fun without finding a host of negativity to make themselves miserable. Happy Holodays!

I’m sure glad you didn’t miss that opportunity to be justifiably outraged and insulting when someone highlights the wrong in people being stereotyped and marginalized..and ironically managed to yourself look negative in doing so.. sweet irony! I almost thought it was going to be completely ignored but no, you anons tend to go for the low hanging fruit as reflects your ambitions. Knowing what i know about racisim in amerrykkka I am over you and uncle toms alike making up ridiculous ideological dogma that serves your only your own self interests, then demand everybody genuflect, or else they will be offended...and your (intentional/unintentional i don't care neither should anyone else)misspelling of holidays to refrenece the holocost gets a resounding FAIL in trying to be snarky with a flawed assesment of what is called critical thinking....next

In a recession, you can make good money with voodoo.

it worked for sarah


I swear, I would bring your comment with me, and point out everything you just said at the movies as the thing rolled, then I would go home and laugh my ass off.

all the more reason to bring this kind of fuck'ry up. anything to get people to start taking a critical look at things and not just accept it for face value. if i hit a funny bone all the better

La- Agreed. Who was it that said nothing makes white folk more uncomfortable than a black man who stands up for himself...the name escapes me but i remember hearing at a sermon preached at a black history convention by someone from the nation of islam..and it was nothing nice. (pc-wise) i have nothing but respect for those brothers. Our society would never show interest in a film project such as this unless they can identify with a lead character, or at least accept the characters in an abstract kind of way.

Absolutely. Consider the other disney 'princesses'

-'The little Mermaid' was silent until she met her prince. She had no voice and was a mute for a good portion of the movie.

-'Sleeping beauty' A wimp-ass female who was asleep until her knight in shining polyester arrived

-'Snow White'....the name alone..and the seven dwarfs..do i even have to explain...and i'm not going to go there with how the seven dwarfs' names describes stages of drug (ab)use

-'Mulan' She was an actual historical figure taken from the story of 'Hua Mulan' joins the army in her fathers place. becomes a hero, but must transform herself as man to do so...so on an so forth

Also note most miscegenation laws that were created in this country were to prevent white men from having sex with black women, not the other way around, as most people seen to believe. Blacks have been in this country since it’s inception, it was only until the Lincoln administration did it become an issue, when they thought if blacks were freed mass rape against white women would happen.

I do agree lack of opportunity to date black women hinder white men, but if education is an issue, why would black men still outnumber black women when it came to interracial relationships? Is this really something that needs to be addressed to children in the form of a cartoon movie..disney..move around with that bs!!

Anonymous said...

I do agree lack of opportunity to date black women hinder white men, but if education is an issue, why would black men still outnumber black women when it came to interracial relationships? Is this really something that needs to be addressed to children in the form of a cartoon movie..disney..move around with that bs!!


White men have pretty much shown they have little to no interest in black women. Secondly, the male suitor in the Disney film is not white.

krystalxlyte said...

Even Lion King (the cartoon) didn't have any blacks and it took place in Africa!

the connection with Africans and animalia even in the stage production made me sick! Like i said leave it to disney to associate blacks or anything African with animals.

c.c.-kathy said...

anonymous 8:10 I hear Tiger Woods wife hit him in the head with a golf club, hmm she is white, isn't she? oh wait, that was just an "accident"

krystalxlyte said...

White men have pretty much shown they have little to no interest in black women. Secondly, the male suitor in the Disney film is not white.

White AMERICAN men have shown little to no interest in black women..and the suitor in the film is of Indian decent..

krystalxlyte said...

anonymous 8:10 I hear Tiger Woods wife hit him in the head with a golf club, hmm she is white, isn't she? oh wait, that was just an "accident"

yeah but thats his snookums..he would have had the same problems but tamika woods would have had her mugshot on TMZ by now..besides we were much too "easy" for him..and its rumored he was creepin with a sista

Dark Moon said...

Bush as Chimp is to Obama as The Joker.

Michelle as Gorilla is to Laura as ...

I would think anyone who took those test in high school would recognized the difference.

Then again we don't know if they didn't buy their degrees.


*****************************

This point upthread needs to be emphasized and why the Bush/Chimp comparison is pathetically moot. Laura Bush was never villified and compared to an animal--more specifically a gorilla which is an animal that most blacks are thought of to be (gorillas in the mist, apesh*t, etc) and of course seen as sub-human.

Not once.

Anonymous said...

.besides we were much too "easy" for him..and its rumored he was creepin with a sista

He's creepin with a white woman.

http://2media.nowpublic.net/images//46/9e/469e3e530e8431a9a11ac84da0045586.jpg

La♥Incognita said...

"the connection with Africans and animalia even in the stage production made me sick! Like i said leave it to disney to associate blacks or anything African with animals."


krystalxlyte, did you notice how those other Princesses were basically "Native" to their homeland region settings? Early on I wondered why "Tiana" wasn't an "African" princess to go in tow with the others. That wouldn't have been such a bad thing. Then again, to associate Africa with human kind, much less a princess... we know the deal. It would seem to give black people a sense of "African pride" seems is unheard of. We really need to take control of our own portrayals in the media/movie industry - sigh.

Another thing, I have always notice something as a little girl with certain movies, even to this day. When ever a single white male goes off to an "exotic" land (Asia, South Amer, Pacific Isl. India etc), he almost always falls in love with some beautiful native girl of that land. You hardly see this when there is a movie about a white man venturing to Africa (don't hand me the king of Scotland), he either falls in love with a white female character he meets already in AFrica, or he's just dealing with the... animals. LOL. Interesting isn't it?


(Field, your comment section does not have a date stamp, so I'm making my own :)

11/29/09

Anonymous said...

You hardly see this when there is a movie about a white man venturing to Africa (don't hand me the king of Scotland), he either falls in love with a white female character he meets already in AFrica, or he's just dealing with the... animals. LOL. Interesting isn't it?


It's a parable for the white man's disinterest in black women. Only Asians and native islander types get attention for the white man in foreign lands.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]I agree that it's a good idea to leave it up as a barometer of where America's head is right now, and part of America's history in the making.[/quote]

Francis L. Holland you are like the "gift that keeps on giving" to me. THANK YOU for showing me your "John McCain blog". It is branded as an "AfroSpear blog".

Can we now drop all pretenses that AfroSpear is anything BUT a collection of "Democrats who are Black" and thus your most potent ingredients are listed first on your label?

HEY FILLED NEGRO!!!!!!!

Here is how I view your game.

YOUR goal and the goal of other 'Democrats who are Black' are to keep Black folks focused upon the ASSAULTS UPON "BARACK OBAMA THE BLACK PRESIDENT" so that you can garner a defensive posture by Black America (and White Liberals like Jody et al).

Thus instead of us as a community putting BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA and his DELIVERIES for our community's benefit ON TRIAL in our "siege mentality" that you have foster THIS INSPECTION NEVER HAPPENS.......REGARDLESS of our condition 4 or 8 years from now.

For the Negro that is unwise to your strategy this is a BRILLIANT means of keeping him THINKING that he is working to advance his own interests - all the while they are ERODED where ever the MACHINE THAT OBAMA NOW SITS ATOP OF has its unchallenged strength.


Why is it that your buddy Francis (I was going to say "boy" but I know how sensitive he is) has chosen to LEAVE THE UNITED STATES for Brazil and yet he is so intricately involved in the ongoing POLITICAL circumstances that are going on in the good ole US of A?

So Filled Negro the point will come when we as a community must decide if it is a greater insult for MICHELE OBAMA to have her image molested by a White person with a copy of GIMP or Photoshop OR we take greater issue with all of our interests that have been trampled upon as the time in which we SHOULD HAVE been using our POLITICAL ACTIVISM to advance measurable issues to our community that suffer from benign neglect because operatives like you and WhiteBowieSteve keep departing from your management stations WITHIN our community to fight this endless EXTERNAL fight where someone ELSE has control over your priorities based upon the spit balls that they fire at you.

YOU need to be brought under a GREATER AUTHORITY Filled Negro.

Absent a tether upon you YOU will continue to be SOLD OUT to these external interests to which you are beholden.

krystalxlyte said...

He's creepin with a white woman.

http://2media.nowpublic.net/images//46/9e/469e3e530e8431a9a11ac84da0045586.jpg

from one ugly pointy nosed broomstick to another..gives new meaning to jumping the broom! LOL!!!

Anonymous said...

Well.. what can you say? White women are a hot commodity.

krystalxlyte said...
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krystalxlyte said...

Well.. what can you say? White women are a hot commodity.

next to asian chicks! LOL!! Sad even for you people!

Anonymous said...

next to asian chicks! LOL!! Sad even for you people!

You people? I was simply stating a fact.

krystalxlyte said...

La my apologies i deleted that post because i TOTALLY misinterpreted that..i'm trying to post and chase after my 10 mo. old puppy and skipping over words..sorry i totally misread that....

did you notice how those other Princesses were basically "Native" to their homeland region settings? Early on I wondered why "Tiana" wasn't an "African" princess to go in tow with the others.

True that. I wondered the same thing but concluded that God forbid we see ANY positive roles black, African, or any of the sort come out of hollywierd even if the ARE animated...the pieces of the 'frog princess' puzzle really doesn't fit when you consider Loiusiana being home to royalty outside of your Mardi Gras kings/queens..when *I* think louisiana i think good food, gambling...not buckinham palace and ball gowns and tiaras...its almost as if the whole intergration effort had been reduced to a farce

Anonymous said...

Also note most miscegenation laws that were created in this country were to prevent white men from having sex with black women, not the other way around, as most people seen to believe.

Boy, you sure wouldn't have to pass a law to forbid black women and white men from having sex nowadays! I've heard similar statements about the reasoning behind outlawing interracial marriages--that it was designed to keep black women and white men away form each other. But if that's true, why did black male and white female relationships take off after Loving Vs. Virginia, while very few bw and wm couples ever sprung up?

krystalxlyte said...

Another thing, I have always notice something as a little girl with certain movies, even to this day. When ever a single white male goes off to an "exotic" land (Asia, South Amer, Pacific Isl. India etc), he almost always falls in love with some beautiful native girl of that land. You hardly see this when there is a movie about a white man venturing to Africa (don't hand me the king of Scotland), he either falls in love with a white female character he meets already in AFrica, or he's just dealing with the... animals. LOL. Interesting isn't it?

yes. quite interesting and so true i didn't pick up on that till now.

Congo
Out of Africa
Ace Ventura..well..we knew what that was..
and do you know about brer rabbit and Song of the South..disney

I decided to take my little cuz because she was getting on my nerves and i wanted her to see an animated character on the screen that looked like her however..its not up to these morons hiding behind the sheet that is tiana to represent our beauty and worth..we do it on our own which makes us attractive and desirable by other races in the world

It seems that only in Amerrykkka people are so adamant about not letting people of color get a fair chance at anything. I mean Seriously? Black people can't even get a princess who stays a princess for the entire film and is a native of Africa..after Nov. 4 2008?!

Seriously?

krystalxlyte said...
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krystalxlyte said...

why did black male and white female relationships take off after Loving Vs. Virginia, while very few bw and wm couples ever sprung up?

good question/observation sadly thats true but..lets look at some some reasons that you may be familiar with hearing:

1.Lack of opportunity: Most white men live in a nearly all-white world. Most know only a few black women.

2.Lack of education in black women: White men look for women with the same level of education. That limits the number of black women they might date and marry even further.

3.Lack of "good looks" in black women: Most white men think black women are not all that good looking when compared to white women. That comes across in their phrase “good-looking for a black girl”. And you see it in their lists of beautiful women on the Internet: they have few if any black women and those they do have tend to be light-skinned. An amazing-looking black woman can walk right by a white man without him batting an eye.

4.Lack of friendliness black women that is sometimes perceived: White men tend to see black women as being hard to get along with – the Sapphire stereotype. It is just not worth the trouble.

5.Lack of acceptance among white friends and family: White men are afraid of what their friends or family will say. Whites are less accepting of mixed relationships, especially mixed marriages, than blacks are.

6.Lack of desire among black women: Among Americans, black women are the least likely to marry outside their race.

That last one is dead wrong. Look at the percentage of married Americans in 2006 who were married outside their race:

19.5 Asian women
8.4 black men
7.2 Asian men
3.6 black women
2.2 white men
1.9 white women

It is white people who stick most to their own kind, not black women – or even Asian men.

The other reasons have some truth to them, but notice how they never seem to blame white men.

They all avoid the simplest reason of all, the one that you hardly ever hear:

1.White men are racist: Well for the most of it American white men..They do not want their sons and daughters to be black. Not because their parents are against it, not because their friends are against it, not because white society is against it – because they themselves are against it!

As white people put it, “What about the children?” As if it was some terrible thing to be black! Well, to a white racist it is.

krystalxlyte said...

It's a parable for the white man's disinterest in black women. Only Asians and native islander types get attention for the white man in foreign lands.


lmao!! i wouldn't group so many eggs in one basket and go so far as to say that its all a parable for disinterest in bw..consider the person who wrote 'The Last King of Scotland' as well as 'The First Ladies Detecive Agency' Alex McCall Smith. Its the producers and the owners of hollywierd who make sure that we hardly see this when there is a movie about a white man venturing to Africa.



besides, whites stereotype and marginalize themselves..why are villians characterized with having british accents..what do they have against their bretheren across the pond..does it have to do with them emancipating their slaves years before they were told to do so?

Anyway, for the sake of keeping dispelling the lie that wm have a distinct disinterest in bw, I suggest you google a little harder..heres a bone: Google: Afrikkaner..

La♥Incognita said...

"The other reasons have some truth to them, but notice how they never seem to blame white men."

While I continue to support black female IRs, this was the reason I had a hard time getting along with one particular extremist black female IR group (not saying all the IR black female groups are extremist).

It bothered me how the extremist were never willing to admit this crucial fact. Instead most of the blame was placed on other black women not being "receptive", too fat and too much of everything bad known to black womanhood.

Anonymous said...

The black female IR groups are pretty much filled with kooks. Also, notice they spend about 99% of their time talking about black men. Most just seem filed with anger toward bm. So much of the talk just revolves around how hard it is to find a good bm; they are all dawgs,etc. My guess is that if these women could find the ideal black man, they would never care to date ir. I would go as far as to say that the vast majority of black women who are dating out of the race in the states are doing so because they couldn't find (or believed they couldn't find) a black man on their level.

Phil4Real said...

Hey krystalxlyte,
Marry me!!! I'd love to drink a cup of coffee and talk to you all day and night. Keep educating and speaking your mind sister.

My thoughts on the M.Obama photoshop... It's the same old shit from whitey. I guess that's why they'd like to be considered CONSERVATIVES. Refusing change, like the old ways. They are unable to be original. On the eve of Thanksgiving, one could say they stole Amerikkka from the native culture, unable to create culture without killing people. CON-SERVATIVES are power/ego driven thieves, liars, and murderers.

Rev.Patterson...LMAO
I'm not going to say anything bad about the guy, cause I think he's mentally challenged. Just look at him. He's like my dogs. Happy to be fed and told by massa "good doggy". Rev. loves massa, he treats him good. He hates himself. Just like my dogs, they'll tear a new a..hole if they see another dog get my attention. Just like Rev.Patterson.

To all the anons...you guys are very entertaining. I love to see ignorant white people.

krystalxlyte said...

It bothered me how the extremist were never willing to admit this crucial fact. Instead most of the blame was placed on other black women not being "receptive", too fat and too much of everything bad known to black womanhood


Amen! In my experience I noticed that even in my generation of 20 something black young women are still holding out for that good black man, (that are believed to ALL come from and reside at Howard U. or Morgan State) than date outside of their race.

I asked why and found out that we do this because in the black community, even though it is accepted a black men will date and marry a non black woman, because like you said they think black women are fat, loud, and whatever other stereotype you can think of, for a black woman to date a white man or otherwise is seen as sleeping with the enemy.

Behind the picket fences, and J Crew cardigans, and condsecending attitutes towards others outside of their niche, White women can be seen as victims of white men (imagine that!), the level of alcoholism, rate of divorce, ect is high and prevelant in white society so the blow of a white woman dating a black man is softer than a black woman dating a white man.

Black women do hold out for black men, I have heard about countless single, college educated black women in their 20s 30s and 40s still waiting for that good black man, and scoff at the idea of dating a white man or otherwise.

krystalxlyte said...

I would go as far as to say that the vast majority of black women who are dating out of the race in the states are doing so because they couldn't find (or believed they couldn't find) a black man on their level.


I do agree lack of opportunity to date black women hinder white men, but if education is an issue, why would black men still outnumber black women when it came to interracial relationships?

Black women graduate from college at a rate of 46%, black men only graduate at a rate of 36%. Because of the numbers, black women have now in their quest to stay within their own race considered man sharing, and are expected to open their options by dating a black man who is less educated and makes less money.

In terms of good looks in black women, no matter how much the media defines beauty as white, blond, and everything that is opposite of black women, black women are still desired.


I do agree that white men fall into the stereotypes that black women are full of attitude and less friendly, but so do black men which gives us all the more reason to stick together!

krystalxlyte said...

Phil4Real i appreciate the love! Thanks! I was hoping i wasn't hijacking fields spot..(who knew one could get so chatty on the innanets after zinfandel!) lol feel free to hit me up via email krystalxlyte@hotmail.com

Phil4Real said...

OMG!!! I've travelled to Japan, Greece, Europe, Canada, and South America. As a whole America has some VERY beautiful women in all colors, shapes, and sizes. Yes they have beautiful women in other countries and cultures, but America has a plethora of georgeous, sexy, fine, sophisticated, sassy, and intelligent women. Now when it comes to black women in America, I'm blessed to be a black man although I haven't found my Queeen, black beauty, black pearl, or Chocolate M&M. I have to say I'm willing to wait for my goddess to come along. I've been to Howards Homecoming, Freaknic, Daytona Beach Reunion, Kappa Beach Party in Galveston, and the B.Classic in N.O. I've seen some of the worlds most beautiful women in America. I've fallen in love a million times on the streets of Atlanta. It's a blessing to be a black man. It's also a blessing to be able to love a black woman.

Yes I've dated other races, that's becuase I don't judge people by color. I know that I'm totally attracted to a beautiful black woman. No other woman could hold my attention. No other woman could understand me. No other woman would be able to love me the way I need to be loved. No other woman could bring children in this world, and raise my black seed to be strong powerful people other than a strong intelligent black woman.

You gotta be crazy to tell me black women aren't jaw dropping beautiful. Who else has the body, face, and mind of a black woman? You call them crazy? Then maybe you should read these post. These women have patiently explained that your comments have no base or relevance. I'd rather discuss this face to face, so if you get out of line I'd have a reason to put my hands on ya:)

Anonymous said...

Wow field, you really got some smart young sistas up in this blog.

Anonymous said...

Phil4Real-"To all the anons...you guys are very entertaining. I love to see ignorant white people."

FYI, the anons are not White, they are Black. Phil, your ignorance is funny and pretty entertaining too. LOL

Anonymous said...

"I was hoping i wasn't hijacking fields spot..(who knew one could get so chatty on the innanets"

You are a lot faster than AB when it comes to comments.

Anonymous said...

Phil4Real, "Yes I've dated other races, that's becuase I don't judge people by color. I know that I'm totally attracted to a beautiful black woman. No other woman could hold my attention. No other woman could understand me. No other woman would be able to love me the way I need to be loved. No other woman could bring children in this world, and raise my black seed to be strong powerful people other than a strong intelligent black woman."

No other woman could hold your attention? How about YOU couldn't hold any other woman's attention?

You are one jive turkey. You are so full of shit that it's coming out of your ears and running down the sides of your face. You and your bullshit lines are disgusting.

But hey, if she is falling for your bs, go for it! You are sooo funny. LOL

Simple Yet Complex said...

I try to respect everybody's opinion no matter how offensive some may be. The picture of Michelle Obama is offensive but I agree with Field and it should not be censored so that everybody can get a realistic visual of what "Post-racial America" truly looks like. Now that the main issue is addressed I want to say that I have no problem with interracial relationships. Personally, I don't think anybody else besides a black woman can truly understand the things that plague the minds of black men in America so I have always been biased toward dating black women. I read in an earlier comment that many black women are trying to hold out for a man that is on the same "level" as them or they eventually have to settle for someone "beneath" them. It is almost offensive to suggest that someone's monetary bracket or their level of education should determine if you love them or not. I'm not suggesting you go and marry somebody who is obviously not making an effort to better themselves but love should not be constrained by material things. I admit that i may have a bit of personal bias since I am in the military and I am still pursuing my college degree but I just hate when it seems that people insinuate that somebody is not good enough for someone else based on tangible items. Black women aren't necessarily lowering their standards because their significant other doesn't have a degree as long as the person is doing everything in their power to support her and take care of her.

Anonymous said...

You are one jive turkey. You are so full of shit that it's coming out of your ears and running down the sides of your face. You and your bullshit lines are disgusting.

But hey, if she is falling for your bs, go for it! You are sooo funny. LOL


Okay, out with it. What did your man do to you??

Jody said...

It is not the guns, it is the culture of violence. We are soaking in violence. We glorify it through entertainment and music. We teach our children violence by hitting them to "discipline them." We glorify war. And on the flip side, we have lost a sense of the sacredness of each and every human being. We ignore the homeless, demonize the poor,incarcerate more people than any other country on earth, get all outraged when the government proposes programs to help people, and regard compassion and seeking compromise as weakness.

Lots of other countries have gun ownership. But, they also have social contracts that provide education for their children THROUGH COLLEGE for free or almost free. They provide health care for all of their people. They have better benefits and longer vacation time. And, they ensure that their senior citizens are taken care of.

(Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, Japan, France, UK, Ireland, Costa Rica, Italy, Germany, to name a few)

Unless and until we are serious about our culture of violence and devaluation of human life.... the violence will continue.

Jody said...

Oops! I meant to post this on the thread above... my bad!

Bob said...

Free speech/expression. If you want it for yourself, you gotta accept others have it, too. It's going to be out there. Like Field (who studied the Constitution at a level most of us have not), I'd rather know who the loonies are, but that's almost beside the point.

Anonymous said...

@krystalxlyte -- I enjoyed your breakdown of the Disney film but 2 things stick out:

1. Mammy/Maddy -- Maybe if it was Mamie (pronounced May-me) I could go there but Maddy sounds nothing like Mammy. Different vowel sounds and different consonants. The only similarity is in print but not spoken.

2. Chambermaid -- That's fairy tales for you. The princess as a servant is classic. Yes, it's sexist and no, I don't like teaching young girls that they need a man to come along and rescue them but that's the heart of the whole princess genre. I think that needs to change but there's nothing race specific about it just very, very, old gender stereotypes that women are fed from the cradle.

The whole 'princess' genre needs to be either scrapped or updated to reflect equality between the sexes.

--j

Anonymous said...

"Okay, out with it. What did your man do to you??"

Oh, I thought that you especially would have agreed with me.

Phil4Real said...

Wow!!! The anons are black? Oh sht, I must be in the twilight zone. Guess I missed that episode.


Hey Anon if you thought those were BS lines, you better get out the house. Hey that's my opinion. You obviously enjoy milky white skin that gets old and wrinkly before 30. Enjoy yourself. I'll stay with the fine wine.

Anonymous said...

Phil4Real, "You obviously enjoy milky white skin that gets old and wrinkly before 30."

What kind of white women have you been fooling with, alcoholic rednecks from a trailer park? After that, anything looks will look, including chickens.

Anonymous said...

"The whole 'princess' genre needs to be either scrapped or updated to reflect equality between the sexes."

There would be no story or fairy tale about a princess and a frog. I see no reason to scrap an age old fairy tale.

For Pete's sake, does everything have to be an "all or nothing" thing?

uptownsteve said...

"3.Lack of "good looks" in black women: Most white men think black women are not all that good looking when compared to white women. That comes across in their phrase “good-looking for a black girl”. And you see it in their lists of beautiful women on the Internet: they have few if any black women and those they do have tend to be light-skinned."

That's the unvarnished truth.

And that goes for most non-white men.

I hear black women saying all the time "we should start dating outside the black community".

Well, what's stopping you?

Black men sure don't have a problem dating outside the race.

I saw "go forth, miscegenate and be fruitful."

The bottom line is that most non-black men aren't going to date black women for whatever reason you care to postulate.

I've been around white boys all my life and most of them feel that black women are unattractive and mean.

Black women just don't fit the template of what they perceive as beautiful.

They'll sneak around with black women but you're not going home to meet their parents.

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Anonymous said...

@uptownsteve -- The only time I hear "pretty for a black girl" is when it comes from older white folks. That's a phrase that exists mainly in the pre-Civil Rights generations and the "for a black girl" part is added on to say to fellow whites "I'm not a race mixer but I'm not blind." It's meant less as a devaluation of black women than as a signal to both whites of unknown opinions on the issue of racial mixing as well as those of decidedly negative opinions on the issue that the person making the statement regarding the girl's attractiveness doesn't really find black girls attractive when they obviously do. It says to them, "Don't worry, I'm conforming to your restrictions."

I don't doubt that you know white boys that think black women are unattractive and mean but I know plenty of white boys 35 and under who feel just the opposite. I think a lot of white guys interested in black women are simply scared they'll get turned down. White guys (the non-frat boy types) are often fairly shy about asking women out.

If black women as a demographic group decide to date outside in significant numbers, it will happen. Black women are beautiful, women of all colors are, and men of all colors have appreciated that for a while now. It's just a matter of the nerve to ask and the desire to say yes coming together.

--j

grinder said...

Anon 1:14, don't say things like that! You imperil steve and La Idiot's very identity. Much better to tell them that white people hate black people and think they are mean and ugly. Give 'em a reason to get up in the morning!

Webb said...

"I hate it when this type of ignorance is close to me."

Amen Field! Amen.

uptownsteve said...

"If black women as a demographic group decide to date outside in significant numbers, it will happen.."

That doesn't make a lot of sense to me because black women are always complaining about a shortage of men or lack of eligible men.

Why wouldn't they decide to date outside the race, especially since so many of them complain about black men or lack thereof?

There was a story in Essence a couple of years ago about black women/white men dating which detailed a Singles ad in the DC classifieds listing a white man who was interested in black women.

The ad received over a hundred responses within 24 hours.

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