Monday, March 08, 2010

LET'S ALL PLAY FAIR.


Some of you Negroes really need to get a clue. Look, I am all for creating a level playing field, and no one despises discrimination-of any kind- like moi. But there are certain things that you just don't -allegedly- do, even if you mean well.

Take the case of Captain Troy K. Gore of the Philadelphia Fire Department. [Capt. Gore is not *shown in the pic with this post] It seems that Captain Gore sent out an e-mail to the leadership of an African American fire fighting organization, and, in it, he allegedly was plotting to get minorities hired by doctoring the "city's computerized application process." No thanks Captain Gore. This is not how we create a level playing field; by-allegedly- cheating. This is what was done to us in the past to insure that we didn't get a fair shot. Now that laws are in place to give us a fair shot, we have to work our butts off to pass the written and physical tests.

"Gore said he had rescinded his e-mail minutes after he sent it and sent a follow-up message: "This is a bad idea. Forget I sent it and be blessed. Just trying to get people hired."
In an interview, Gore said: "It was just a thought that came to my head. It wasn't something I ever intended on doing."

Valiants president Kenneth W. Greene Sr. provided a copy of the e-mail to The Inquirer along with a statement rejecting its contents.

"We regret the need to issue this statement, but find the suggestions made in the e-mail to be most unfortunate, and feel that we must disassociate our organization, in the strongest possible terms, from any possible suggestion that the conduct proposed in the e-mail is acceptable," read the statement, released Friday.
Deputy Mayor Everett Gillison on Friday called the e-mail "highly inappropriate" and asked Ayers to look into it. Gillison and Ayers said they had not seen the e-mail before The Inquirer provided a copy.

"I look at this as serious, and we're going to continue to investigate," Ayers said. "We're going to find out exactly what happened here."'

Here is hoping that this is not the tip of a very large iceberg. If it is, some very good men could have their stellar careers in the department now viewed with a jaundiced eye. That would be sad. Because the last thing that we need in post racial A-merry-ca, is something that gives those folks who want to take us backwards a reason to gloat. [Story]

And now for a positive uplifting story: (No, not a Lark sighting.) I have to give a BIG SHOUT OUT to the wonderful and inspirational young men of Urban Prep-, which is an all male African American school in Chicago. Every single one of the 107 young men graduating have been accepted to college. EVERY SINGLE ONE! Damn it feels good to write that. I guess all of the young men in our inner cities aren't "street pirates", as some people just love to point out.

Young men, that is serious field Negro behavior.

Thanks for the story Barbara!

86 comments:

Hathor said...

What city's computerize process. There are no online applications or test. What is he talking about? The city is pretty technology challenged and it seems it employees are even more so.

cactusrose said...

Oh, Hahahahaha! I had to laugh at the firemen article.
Listen up, here in PR the fire department is the biiiggest political hirer, what I mean is that if you're a really good party activist you get a letter from the mayor and one from your representative and you are in. But you really have to be a diehard activist. Here in PR, except for the ocasional brushfire, the only thing firemen do is watch tv, play videogames, and shoot the breeze. and of course get paid! LOL! The water and electric works are the two other political reward agencies. They're the highest paying agencies on the island.In these three agencies you will also find the ne'er do well relatives of government oficials!

So It's funny to me that everybody should be fussing over this, heck, if he was here, he'd be lauded as a wonderful,loyal,company man! LOL!
Such is life! I love it.

I say leave the guy alone. He's only trying to help! ;)

NSangoma said...

~
"Listen he's a nice person, he's very articulate" this is what's been used against him, "but he couldn't sell watermelons if it, you gave him the state troopers to flag down the traffic."
http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2010/20100308044344.aspx

The political fallout is continuing for a man who, as CEO of the Tennessee Hospitality Association, sent out an e-mail comparing first lady Michelle Obama to a chimpanzee.
http://www.wrcbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12105796
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NSangoma said...

~
"Listen he's a nice person, he's very articulate" this is what's been used against him, "but he couldn't sell watermelons if it, you gave him the state troopers to flag down the traffic."
http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2010/20100308044344.aspx

The political fallout is continuing for a man who, as CEO of the Tennessee Hospitality Association, sent out an e-mail comparing first lady Michelle Obama to a chimpanzee.
http://www.wrcbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12105796
`

field negro said...

LOL@ cactusrose. No cactusrose, here the fireman have to be on their game. Trust me. Too many row homes and historical districts. Fires are serious business here. And we have lots of them. :(

Nsangoma, I heard about that guy a few days ago. I can't chase the big R man every damn where. Let me guess; he was a republican.

"The city is pretty technology challenged and it seems it employees are even more so.

Well.....

cactusrose said...

@ Field: plus I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong,that all firemen in the states have to be paramedics also?

Over here the majority are fat, potbellied, sluggish and slooooow!

Haha, They never actually "run", not even "rush" anywhere, except to lunch and dinner, much less actually rescue anyone! At the brushfires, you see them trying to get a hold of the hose, all looking at each other, they don't even know what to do or where to begin, it's a joke! (The majority)
Just saying, might as well laugh so as not to cry! But I love it here......

But on a serious note, my thoughts are that Gore's just trying to level the playing field and pay it forward!
After all, all's fair in love and war, and this, baby, is WAR! ;P

Captain Crab said...

After a tough day, the Field comes through with great news!

Thanks!

Farman said...

Gore should resign. You know anything dealing with past hirings he had a hand in will be investigated. Any future ones will always be suspect. He wrote his own epitaph with that email.

A big applaud to the guys at Urban Prep! And to their instructors.

field negro said...

Yes cactusrose, I am pretty sure that they do. I know here in Philly they do.

Always glad to oblige, Captain C. :)

Charles said...

Oh man, how the now Hispanics turn to their German influence on the George Lopez show tonight. Field, I'll be damned. The element.

Anonymous said...

Speakin' of chasing the R, how about this one: Earthquake in Haiti, magnitude 7.0, 300,000 dead. Earthquake in Chile, magnitude 8.8 (500 times as powerful), 800 people dead.

Ah, forget it. Nothing to see there. Damn racist tectonic plates.

Anonymous said...

How about we all seek the best possible candidates and let the chips fall as they may?

Mold

agape2010 said...

@ FN:

Have not been on your blog in a couple of days...did you know that there is supposed to be a "Compton Party Part Deux" at UCSD ?

And... it seems the school had to cancel a radio show because the announcer said it was..."just a bunch of whining niggers."

I chased it you blog it :)

Now let me go see what you've been talking 'bout.

Peace.
~agape2010~

btx3 said...

The boys at Urban Prep are indeed kicking serious behind!

Congrats to those young men!

Isn't there a case before the SCUMUS 5 having to do with the Philly Fire Department?

Anonymous said...

Field: Yuo want a level playing field? Does that mean you are against racial preferences in hiring or admissions?

field negro said...

"Field: Yuo want a level playing field? Does that mean you are against racial preferences in hiring or admissions?"

Nope! Because there are many factors that determines whether an individual is qualified for admissions to a particular school. Such as, for instance, background. The circumstances that individual had to voer come at home, etc. The school might want a more diversified campus to help the learning experience for all of their students. The same could be said for a company. A fire department is a different story.

Besides, there is difference between taking consideration for individuals who might have passed but not with as high a score (see the link I provided) and jut flat out cheating.

agape, you have got to be kidding me! Are they stil at it out at UCSD? Lawd have mercy! Hold on; I have to go get my R chasing cape on.....

Anon 11:39 pm, are you saying that god is racist? ISEEISEE please pray for Anon 11:39 pm.

Frank Drackman said...

All the graduates of Urban Prep are goin to College!!?!?!?!?!?
Good, maybe they'll learn to read. Seriously, they'd be better off learning a trade, plumbing, auto repair, computers, military.
BTW, they're bringin "Freaknic" back to the A-T-L, its sorta the "Black Spring Break" since y'all are too lazy to go all the way to Florida. Thousands of College Students of Color party on the streets, dance, and get arrested.
And don't blame me, it was the N-Word Mayor and City Council who shut it down, most of us sort of enjoyed it, sort of like how you'd rather have a bunch of yellow jackets swarming in one yard, than spread out through the neighborhood...

Frank

Anonymous said...

hmmm, not much action on this one today...better get back to the self chumming as CF talks about.

btx3 said...

Uhhhhh Field - what's the deal in Philly with nekkid white folks and beer?

http://www.philly.com/philly/photos/The_Philly_Naked_Bike_Ride_.html

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/20100308_Troopers_raid_popular_bars_for_unlicensed_beers__Dozens_of_gallons_seized_after__citizen_complaint_.html

Keep this up and Philly is going to ruin it's reputation as the City of Brotherly Love!

Barbara said...

You are welcome, FN - and thanks for the shout out. But Jack and Jill Politics deserves the credit for catching the story in a Chicago paper - I just passed it along to one of my favorite bloggers!

alicia banks said...

fn:

ditto!!!

chi-town is proud!

this is what ALL of our babies can do with parents who care and schools that have 0 tolerance for thugs etc

i also believe that all education should be gender segregated in grades k-12

&

black racism and reverse discrimination are real!

thanks for pointing this perfect example out!

A Person of Interest said...

I notice YOU don't teach there, AB. Maybe if you were as special as you think you are, they'd hire you.

As far as gender separation, you just want to keep all your little future feminist dykes away from the peter.

alicia banks said...

apeprpetualretardoi:

never fret

morons like you would fail regardless

so would your defective demonic seed

garbage in
garbage out

alicia banks said...

mell:

did you catch a perpetualpervretardoi's "attack"?

smile

alicia banks said...

aperpetuallypeterlessmoronoi:

there are TONS of schools i "do not teach at"...

but where i do, my babies are legendarily blessed!

of course, i am not a special ed teacher...so you and your retarded spawn will never be so blessed...

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/the-impending-doom-of-a-nation---our-horrid-schools.html

Anonymous said...

"Listen he's a nice person, he's very articulate" this is what's been used against him, "but he couldn't sell watermelons if it, you gave him the state troopers to flag down the traffic."
 
Ah... the words of dan rather.
 
Considering his political leanings, I'm confident that FN will give this white man a free pass.
 
And who was it that used that "articulate" smear against him, the man running in the democrat primaries against Obama, Veep Joe Biden. The same Joe Biden that thought it would be best if crack users went to jail while powder cocaine users get probation.

A Person of Interest said...

Oh, please....for the edification of all "herein".......do explain how you "legendarily" bless someone "ELSE'S" babies.

You're like an idiot who was just barely smart enough to get a driver's license, and now thinks that qualifies her to pilot the space shuttle.

And, if all you've got is links....stuff them up your butt...IF there's room.

Amanda said...

Congrats to the young men, the parents/families, and the staff of Urban Prep!

alicia banks said...

aperpetuallinklessdicklessfooloi:

my reputation and resumes document all i do

and you slacker retard?????????

alicia banks said...

aperpetualilliterateoi:

i bless them by teaching them and inspiring them with the same intense passion and devotion that i despise you!

Anonymous said...

Keep this up and Philly is going to ruin it's reputation as the City of Brotherly Love!


In think the cities' massive body count has already done that.

alicia banks said...

aperpertuallenviousworthlessnigoi:

i miss tupac daily

i miss how he would call out hobama

i watched "poetic justice" last night...

u remind me of joe torry's character in that scene where tupac blasts him for always degrading what others do while he did nothing...

u slacker hater niggers are like that...

alicia banks said...

aperpetuallyfecalfool:

you are CONSUMED with my butt u lewd loony turd!...

there is FAR more room in your lobotomized skull and mongoloid sized head you anal obsessed retard!!!

alicia banks said...

fnL:

u will love this!

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/black-barbie-sold-white-barbie-walmart-store/story?id=10045008

alicia banks said...

fn:

the L was a typo

but it could stand for:

LEGENDARY
LAWYER
LEADING REAL MEN
LETHAL WARRIOR...

mellaneous said...

Wow Field what did you eat this morning lol! Now this is Field Negro thinking. Excellent point

Question -"Field: You want a level playing field? Does that mean you are against racial preferences in hiring or admissions?"

Answer -"Nope! Because there are many factors that determines whether an individual is qualified for admissions to a particular school. Such as, for instance, background. The circumstances that individual had to voer come at home, etc. The school might want a more diversified campus to help the learning experience for all of their students. The same could be said for a company. A fire department is a different story.

Besides, there is difference between taking consideration for individuals who might have passed but not with as high a score (see the link I provided) and jut flat out cheating."

And this response to Anon, "Anon 11:39 pm, are you saying that god is racist? ISEEISEE please pray for Anon 11:39 pm."I think you are starting to pray my brother lol! (or some of my prayers are being answered lol) I am still praying!!

BTW sorry about misdirecting your blog about the Precious controversy. If its okay with you I am going to throw out some points for people to consider again when thinking about the social usefulness of the movie.

I will also supply some quotes that the author made that absolutely floored me. I think it reveals more why we have to always use our minds, which is why the Afro sphere blogs exist in the first place.

mellaneous said...

I am glad for the children of the Chicago Urban Prep Academy that were chosen by lottery and succeeded.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could figure out a way for the public schools to do for our children and the children of poor folks what they manage to do for children in the suburbs or in the upper crust sections of our cities.

I am still haunted and impressed with Jesus parable about the lost sheep. I wish that our success would not be exceptionalism but the rule.

The struggle continues I guess

alicia banks said...

mell:

ditto

the main things they do are:

swiftly expel students who have no interest in learning...ie bully moron heathen clones of apoi etc

demand that parents be involved and not absentee

demand that children do homework etc and not just warm seats all day

there are other things
but these are the MAIN things they do while most public school teachers are forced to be wardens all day/chase invisible parents who dodge their calls with blocked cell phones/pretend that overcrowded rooms filled with buck wild medicated children is conducive to actual learning etc

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't it be nice if we could figure out a way for the public schools to do for our children and the children of poor folks what they manage to do for children in the suburbs or in the upper crust sections of our cities.
 
How do you suggest we get the parents to become more involved?
 
Kids in charter school do better because the parents are more involved with their children.

alicia banks said...

anon:

the secret is no choice!

in pvt and charter schools,
parents are present or their kids are out. period.

toxic young parents are rarely noble/responsible by choice...adopting the same 0 tolerance for lesser choices = the key to the same successes

one great idea is to tie parental inclusion in with welfare...ie no show/no homwk etc = no checks/no
lunches/breakfasts etc

money talks even louder than rules!

Anonymous said...

You are saying God is racist, but I am saying the tectonic plates are racist. Easier to say that than to say the Haitians are poor idiots.

Anonymous said...

field negro said...
"Field: Yuo want a level playing field? Does that mean you are against racial preferences in hiring or admissions?"


'Nope! Because there are many factors that determines whether an individual is qualified for admissions to a particular school. Such as, for instance, background. The circumstances that individual had to voer come at home, etc. The school might want a more diversified campus to help the learning experience for all of their students. The same could be said for a company. A fire department is a different story"

So you are NOT for a level playing field. The only thing that should matter is one's qualifications for the job / position. Anything is bullshit discrimination.

Don said...

I honestly believe these types of under the table acts take place all the time. In all fields and practices. Why do I believe such? I just do. Seems to me Captain Gore simply ended up getting ratted.

After he sent the email, perhaps, Gore realized it was a bad idea. Or, he merely received that 'feeling' one gets as they realize 'yep. that was a bad idea' and simply tried to cover his back.

Bennett said...

Good stuff Field. I read about the students over on black folks don't swim, and it's really something good to show around to local schools.

Re this "the Haitians are poor idiots."

Actually, houses in Haiti were built to withstand hurricanes, not earthquakes. Chile has a history of strong quakes so their building codes were very much like those in California, lots of rebar.

The tectonic plates favor those prepared by historic events.

Stacks said...

"the secret is no choice!

in pvt and charter schools,
parents are present or their kids are out. period.

toxic young parents are rarely noble/responsible by choice...adopting the same 0 tolerance for lesser choices = the key to the same successes

one great idea is to tie parental inclusion in with welfare...ie no show/no homwk etc = no checks/no
lunches/breakfasts etc

money talks even louder than rules!"

So right Ab, you hit the nail on the head!
Recently, I took my kindergarten age son to school because he missed the bus, and his teacher who is a Black woman (thank God!)
said to me "Whatever you're doing keep doing it because T***** is an exceptional student.She told me all the other students come to my son and ask him questions. Being from Carribean descent, I was raised differently. No offense to my amerry-can brothers and sisters, but my entire family that I Know personally, were all raised by parents who didn't play that. My sister graduated H.S. two years early, went to college and is successful, my little brother is finishing school, my mom is a dean at a university. I was the underachiever of the family, but in good 'ole amerry-can pull yourself up by your bootstraps fashion, my wife and I have a succesful business together. It can be done, you just gotta work hard sometimes, that's what I show my kids through example.I'll be damned if one of my babies grows up to be a "street pirate", as the unconstipated one likes to label our children as.

Stacks said...

BTW- GO UCONN!!!
Uconn's Huskies 71 game winning streak is field negro behavior!
(and hfnb for the white ones!)

alicia banks said...

stacks:

no offense taken!...preach!

american kids of all races disgrace students internationally because of parental ethics!

and i thank god daily for superior parents like u!

your babies are blessed!

EDUCATION and ETHICS and BEHAVING and FOCUSING and BEING QUIET and RESPECTING ELDERS/TEACHERS etc ALL begin at HOME!...

mellaneous said...

Hey Stacks I feel you and I am not offended but take note that many born and bred Africans living in America had to take their education seriously as well. You aren't as different as you think.

mellaneous said...

Alicia (and anyone else interested in an open no name calling discussion)- are you ready for the DISCUSSION? Breath deeply and hear me out.

My problems with Precious-

1)- The movie is not redemptive and the author asserts that some people are beyond redemption. Why in a racist society would you put together a piece of art and put it on the open market that displays black humanity as "unredeemable."

Sapphire said in an interview with Ed Hardy of LA Weekly,

"I think to show the mother as not a redemptive character, to show her as perpetrator, was in some ways to break the stranglehold of black female victimhood. Part of being fully human is that we are victimizers also...

"I was trying to show the decayed soul, the soul that is past redemption. And some of us are."

AB in all my life I have never heard anyone say that someone was beyond redemption. It is bad theology no matter what your religion. And even if you are an atheist it goes the credo and street philosophy even that,'everyone has a little good in them.'

maria said...

there ARE people beyond redemption but most of them are mentally ill in some way and refuse treatment.

alicia banks said...

mell:

we must agree to disagree on this film

one of my best friends hates it so bad that she hates monique now...sad

she is not a teacher
and she is a great mom of 3

she has no idea what i have watched escalate for decades

i see CYLCLICAL GENETIC EXPERIENTIAL INTERGENERATIONAL young parents that are WAY beyond redemption every day

bill cosby penned an entire book about it...and he is still crucified for telling those truths

i saw the film through the eyes of an early childhood teacher who sees a generation of shaniya davises daily!

i do not know one teacher who was offended by this film...we saw it as a public shout about a public wound that needs to be healed in open air asap!

Anonymous said...

Plenty of earthquakes in the Carribean. In 1946 an 8.0 quake hit the Dominican Republic. Haiti doesn't do too well in hurricanes either.

alicia banks said...

mell:

my wife is a child therapist
she has dedicated her life to boys and girls damaged and abused and neglected even more than precious...their stories make precious look spoiled!

ie
when my wife watched this film she pointed out monique's superior qualities to some:
ie
groceries
an apt with a roof and furniture
a nice couch etc
precious had her own furnished room...

these are the things that detached persons take for granted are unable to notice/fathom...

another friend is a social worker...she is 35 and clinically depressed at what she calls
"parenting less humane than animals"

ie
she routinely sees kids with scalp infections
due to chronically unwashed hair/braids...lice etc...

even animals lick their babies clean daily!

she may change careers to become a pc tech soon...she says her heart cannot endure the wrenching wk she does each day

ask any teacher how filthy some babies are each day and often of mom's who live at the salon and nail shop!!!...

some children come to school so dirty we have to change their clothes before field trips etc...we have to teach them to groom etc/wipe because their young parents only teach them to master play station and dirty dancing!!!

we all see the world from our own rainforests...and my forest is filled with kids & parents like precious and her horrid mom or worse!!!

alicia banks said...

mell:

my wife also noted
someone taught precious to cook

albeit unhealthily
probably that horrid lazy mom

that is a survival skill that many kids never acquire

many kids live off of ramen noodles and fast food

even young men lament women their age who cannot cook for them

i know young men who chase cougars for the meals!

many kids live off of candy and soda and chips!

some kids live with NO utils and cannot even cook on a hot plate!

this is a reality we ignore in affluent america where we pretend we have no real hunger or poverty
just because we cannot handle that it exists in the same zip codes we share...

there is an expression
"your blues ain't like mine"

i have taught children since
1980...my blues run deep because of all the preciouses and marys i have seen in real life....

we agree to disagree my sista
our blues and views just differ...

alicia banks said...

maria:

ditto

therapy is a luxury for the rich/insured and it has a stigma in many ethnic cultures...but we need it more than anyone because poverty/racism/colorism/drugs/
alcohol breed psychoses...

alicia banks said...

mell:

just before the 96 olympics in atl...a beautiful young infant bf choked on a huge live roach...

i started teaching my babies then in classes and adults on the air to sleep with wads of toilet paper in their ears to keep roachess out of their aural canals etc...

i did not see any roaches in marys' apt in the film

2 gorgeous twin bm doctors at emory univ in atl were reared in foster care/ with an addict mom....they slept in her stockings pulled over their small bodies to sleep without bugs biting them...

i have taught babies who stomp the heads of rats and mice the way most kill roaches or ants...

many men/women in prison complain of roaches eating them inside plaster casts etc...and being ignored when they complain about the intense itching

many people in shelters (where more people live/will live due to hobama than ever before!!!) battles roaches in their body cavities often!

precious is reality...or worse...for millions around the globe

see more on that baby in atl here:

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/remember-deletha-word---public-execution-by-misogyny.html

mell:

just before the 96 olympics in atl...a beautiful young infant bf choked on a huge live roach...

i started teaching my babies then in classes and adults on the air to sleep with wads of toilet paper in their ears to keep roachess out of their aural canals etc...

i did not see any roaches in marys' apt in the film

2 gorgeous twin bm doctors at emory univ in atl were reared in foster care/ with an addict mom....they slept in her stockings pulled over their small bodies to sleep without bugs biting them...

i have taught babies who stomp the heads of rats and mice the way most kill roaches or ants...

many men/women in prison complain of roaches eating them inside plaster casts etc...and being ignored when they complain about the intense itching

many people in shelters (where more people live/will live due to hobama than ever before!!!) battles roaches in their body cavities often!

precious is reality...or worse...for millions around the globe

see more on that baby in atl here:

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/remember-deletha-word---public-execution-by-misogyny.html

alicia banks said...

rushing

excuse the dups

mellaneous said...

we agree to disagree my sista
our blues and views just differ...

I hear you but I am your brother lol.

My point sis is not that there are not folks who exist like Precious, my point is that the greater community does not care and will not do a thing to lift a finger to help the poor and unfortunate victims of incest and familial abuse.

Why do you think that white folks overwhelming loved this movie? I'll tell you what I think. I think some folks find black depravity entertaining. I also suspect that it allows some folks to feel superior. There is a history of white paternalism towards blacks this reminds me of it. They know and have known that the ghetto exists but I don't see them crying tears over it, after all thats where Precious lives.

Again Alicia I am talking about the piece of art called Precious and why in a decidely racist society the portrayal of black people as unredeemable plays into racist stereotypes.

And in this climate of neo-racism I think this is indeed not good.

And to make my point further you should read some of the reviews about the movie writtten by white reviewers. I will relate the crazy social analysis that one Jewish reveiwer wrote to make my point.

Like you I am not just writing about things I don't know, I have been in the fields.

I am adopted and a victim myself of familial abuse and experienced bullying in school and all kinds of cruel acts, but I am not trying to make all black folks pay for what happened to me, like Lee Daniels seemed to be set on doing. And Oprah to a lesser extent. Hell they can afford counseling!

I have worked with teenage incest victims (white) and all kinds of abuse victims when I was a young counselor. I was a youth minister in the inner city where I literally saw it all, I have campaigned against youth violence and police brutality. I have seen it all and know what goes on.

But again I have never met anyone that had nothing good about them, like Mary in the movie. Usually a mother this bad is an alcoholic or drug addict or mentally unbalanced, according to the movie she was neither.And usually one family member is decent and helpful even Precious grandmother was trifling. This was total depravity and unfortunately too many people believe that this is a real reflection of many black lives rather than an aberration.

alicia banks said...

mell:

i really do not care what whites think or like or not

and i never expect any movie to tell every story

i did not expect "the color purple" to depict all blacks
just one rural family

precious has nothing to do with millions of black lives...even my own!

but it is a true picture of millions especially those who are 10 and under today...

no film will ever please anyone

and because we have so few balck films...it is always an unfair burden

ie

i think "booty call" is a hilarious silly film
many hated it too

it is no epic...just mindless fun

when wm make "jackass" it is not seen as defining all wm

and neither should precious define all blacks

alicia banks said...

mell:

i am honored to have you as my brother

and you are proof that bm can be loving feminist and sane

alicia banks said...

mell:

i adore lee daniels

he is raw and brave

he was brutally beaten and abused by his own dad for being gay

he is married to a man
and he adopted 2 children that his het brother made with women and abandoned

he saved them from foster care as uncle/a great dad

see his bios linked to my reviews

&
please see all of his work:


monique stars in this one too:

http://www.amazon.com/Shadowboxer-Cuba-Gooding-Jr/dp/B000HRMAUY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1268174862&sr=1-1

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de126e1e860d.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de126e1e860d.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de126e1e860d.html

field negro said...

"So you are NOT for a level playing field. The only thing that should matter is one's qualifications for the job / position. Anything is bullshit discrimination."

Wrong! The criteria to enter most colleges is very subjective. Mommy or Daddy a big booster? you are in. Great athlete? You are in. See where I am going? Think about it.

Mel & AB, enjoying the discussion.

"BTW- GO UCONN!!!
Uconn's Huskies 71 game winning streak is field negro behavior!
(and hfnb for the white ones!)"

Yes, they are a dynasty. That Philly homeboy has coached and recruited his a%* off with them. Now let's see if they can beat those Huskers. If they do, well it's a wrap. And I think UCLA's record will be next.

alicia banks said...

fn:

thank u for making it all possible!

____

lee took his daugter to the oscars

see more:

http://www.blackcelebkids.com/2010/03/08/lee-daniels-and-his-precious-daughter-attend-the-oscars/

alicia banks said...

mell oops:

excuse the dup links

see 2 more lee d films

the woodsman

&

monsters ball

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Ddvd&field-keywords=lee+daniels

alicia banks said...

those 2 awesome twin bro docs:

http://www.emory.edu/EMORY_REPORT/erarchive/1999/November/ernovember.1/11_1_99byrd.html

field negro said...

Thanks Barbara, shout out to Jack & Jill!

They are the bougie black folks, but those are my fam over there. :)

alicia banks said...

fn:

speaking of hoop stars

please pray for allen iverson!

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/86738542.html?cmpid=15585797

Anonymous said...

FN, could you please hurry address AB so she could shut up already? Everyday the same shit.

mellaneouos said...

Alicia-

I know Daniels work and his backgroud which is why I said what I said earlier, he appears to have an axe to grind. And that's okay but its not okay to grind it on folks who have not caused him harm and put a whole people out there (making them look depraved)for what happened to him in his life and childhood.

I had an awful childhood that would rate up there with some of the stuff Daniels had to put up with. To this day I have no idea who my father is and my birth mother somehow lost her mind after doing an excellent job of raising the majority of my older siblings.

I caught hell but I dealt with it.

You probably can guess that I had problems with Monsters Ball. He took our black queen Halle Berry and made her grovel up to a glorified trashy white cop. And right on cue Hollywood awarded her for playing to many white men's fantasy. But thats another story. I'll leave it alone before someone accuses me of being anti-white.

But I would like to see folks applaud movies in which black folks are heroic and principled and just human beings. Akila and the Bee was very inspiring but folks weren't raving over it. And so was the Great Debaters and that movie Will Smith played in where he tried to make right a wrong he had done by helping folks. People weren't reportedly seeing it three times like one reviewer reported that he did after seeing at Sundance.

What is it about Precious that he found so captivating? Was the fact that black folks have always been used to project other folks depravity upon.

And you know and I know that the way people are portrayed in film and art does have an affect on how they are treated and how they are viewed come social policy time.

Those who are deemed second class and thus unredeemable are not funded their children (those same Precious's) are left to fend for themselves.(Thus Obama announces domestic budget cuts and leaves the defense budget untouched.)

In Nazi Germany before they began to deport the Jews then put them in camps then put theme in ghettos the Nazi's saturated the movies with aniti-Jewish films showing Jews in the most depraved situtaions. And no doubt there were some Jews as depraved as they were depicted and greedy and selfish but it was not the point. The poijt was to paint them all with the same brush. And the films used were not all made by Nazis nor were they all made with the idea of being used for anti-Jewish propaganda. Some of the filmmakers meant well and were not anti-semitic.

mellaneous said...

Thanks Field and thank you for letting us flesh out our ideas.

I see I see- What do you think? Is anyone really unredeemable is there anyone God would not grant a shot at redemption.

"Let the redeemed say so"

Bennett said...

Plenty of earthquakes" and then a single reference from '46. Whereas Chile has had 16 major quakes since '43 (over 6.0) and 5 of them were over 8.0. Here's the wikipedia list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_Chile

The last earthquake to strike Haiti (comparable to the most recent quake) struck 250 years ago.

mellaneous said...

AB appreciate the compliment and yes I did notice the a person of interest took a shot at you.

Who knows maybe one of these days the Field Negro's blog will be known for not just its lightning rod subjects and discussions. But also for the respectful way in which the posters respond to one another. This is how real progress is made when we actually listen and examine our ideas and hold onto what is useful to help move humanity forward and discard those that hold us back, or clog up the works. I can hope.

Anonymous said...

Mell, are you male or female?

mellaneous said...

Okay I'll bite. I don't know how that got started but I have written commentary for years and no one assumed that I was female or gay (lol)

I am a straight male and there are a few folks who respond on fields blog who will tell you that nothing about me would imply I am other than a red blooded male.

Again as I said earlier its a shame that a man who takes his religion seriously and who is a serious advocate of racial and economic justice while being vehemently opposed to the exploitation of human beings in the Third world for the benefit of human beings in the so-called developed world and is therefore opposed to the system that encourages and continues to exploit and oppress folks both at home and abroad has to be viewed as a woman or gay.

I am a man who cares deeply and is empathetic and sympathetic to the needs of the poor, the young in the ghetto and out, the imprisoned, those who are sick without access to health care, young girls (who have been molested and abused and are left with no self image and are used as objects to please men),the old who may or may not have someone to care for them, males, females, gay and straight, and who is concerned about the living conditions of folks all over the world whether they be Haitian or Chilean.

Does that answer your question?

Stacks said...

Mellaneous, I'm sorry you feel bad over my upbringing, that was not my intent.
Nice swipe though!

I feel you on the precious movie, it was like one big stereotypefest.(my word)
A big, fat girl steals a whole bucket of chicken? That alone is stereotypical. I can't think of how a movie like this will show my children anything positive?
I am ALL FOR BLACK, but this is something we could do without.

Stacks said...

"my wife also noted
someone taught precious to cook

albeit unhealthily
probably that horrid lazy mom

that is a survival skill that many kids never acquire

many kids live off of ramen noodles and fast food

even young men lament women their age who cannot cook for them

i know young men who chase cougars for the meals!

many kids live off of candy and soda and chips!

some kids live with NO utils and cannot even cook on a hot plate!

this is a reality we ignore in affluent america where we pretend we have no real hunger or poverty
just because we cannot handle that it exists in the same zip codes we share..."

Exactly AB, these are fairly remedial skills alot of children don't learn at home.

I've met adults male and female who didn't brush their teeth regularly. Ramen noodles are a permanent item in alot of Black households. Do you know how much sodium is in that shit??? High blood pressure is a risk factor for the Black community. There's alot more education out there besides school education. We must encourage our kids to learn the various things about ourselves as Black people. This is information that can save lives, and most schools don't think Black children are important enough to address these issues, ultimately it's up to us as the elder generation to teach them these things.

MeandMyMicroscope said...

GREAT input from AB and Mell!!!

Mell, I agree with you about the Halle Berry oscar, that's one we ALL could have done without and the crotch shot? WTF???

About Ramen noodles, I had to eat them growing up and I haven't eaten them since I graduated high school, LOL. Today, my grocery store preference is Whole Foods but ironically I HAVE to keep ramen noodles on hand because 2X per week my daughter just HAS to have them for dinner, ROTFMAO!!!

alicia banks said...

mell:

you are my hero bro
u made it with your heart and soul in tact
just like precious

i have had a very looong day
been up since 5am

more asap

briefly:

i adore our discussion
thank u for allowing me to debate without being attacked...that is rare herein

and that is the ONLY reason i thought u were female...i am so used to being attacked by the misogynist illiterate insecure male clones of uts/apoi or their demonic yeti stepford drones like dicedicyicy...

i adore monsters ball
the raw sex fit the raw themes
i did not see 2 interracial people
i did not see halle violated
i really DO get how others saw that tho
and i detail that in my review

i saw 2 humans who both abused their sons to death and thus bonded

see more:

http://webspace.webring.com/people/rm/monicasass/mball.htm

yes
ramen noodles are cheap quick poison
and sadly they have become a staple for the poor of all races

i love them too
but i eat them sparingly as i do all junk food

i have even done lessons on how to strain them and boil some fat and salt out and add meat and veggies for my students

i am a severe genetic diabetic
i have to watch every calorie i intake/choice i make
and i am meticulous about my diet as it is literally life and death for me

but ALL asian food is addictive to me...it is my greatest culinary passion even more than soul food...
____

no film will ever tell every story

no director should ever have to rep an entire race

precious is one great true typical story to me

far more realistic than monsters ball

ditto for the color purple in its era

i wish we all could see precious as the heroine she is

and thank you for being heroically inspiring too my dear brother warrior!
____

i love lee d
because most people choose to evade painful truths or hard dark emotions

he wallows in them and makes his pain art the same way billie holiday did when she made the death rattle of a junkie's vocal cry melodious...

more asap
ab

alicia banks said...

stacks:

ditto

i have heard a lot about the chicken scene

it is comic relief to me

and yes it is overly stereotypical

but

there are no ihops/chic breakfast diners/faes etc in most hoods

many students eat fried chicken and egg rolls etc from gas station chefs/fry shacks because those are the ONLY restaurants in the hood

alicia banks said...

mell:

this discussion made me think about 2 other films

boyz in the hood
&
poetic justice

i adore all john singleton's wk
but my wife and other friends really hate on him

some hate is because of his personal life
which i never trip about as deeply as i see all celebs as flawed humans like the rest of us

it is how i can adore mj's music and still hate his bleaching and pedophilia etc

it is how i can love wyclef
warts and all

BUT
i have had deep discussions about how john s may hate women in his personal life

he had a turbulent relo with tyra banks and askia bousia (nettie) dumped him even while 6 mos pregnant etc

many females feel his wk reflects that same hatred

i think he gets a bad rap like tyler perry
ie
many of his female roles are weak
but many are ideal

ie
tyra f v. angela b in boyz
and
ALL the weak women in rosewood did piss me off!

BUT (re precious)
john's crackheads in both films really upset many females
i was never upset
i have seen TOO many sorry young moms who really were addicts to ever be mad at john s for that

so
again
like crackhead moms
precious is very real to me
____

i also love spike lee

his films have major female flaws too
ie
she's gotta have it
had a predatory lesbian and a rape scene masked as erotica

but most of spike's wk is great
in spite of his own admitted colorism and sexism

and many actresses dog spike out
when his films end...
like the stars of
jungle fever
&
mo betta blues

like lee d and john s and spike and tyler...all directors are human
so are their singular tales
i never expect perfection in any...

i ramble when i am tired
sorry

bye
ab

alicia banks said...

i meant:

NO cafes with omelettes etc in most hoods

Anonymous said...

ab, I haven't seen the movie yet, but obviously it provided a great script for a new star to be born!

The movie must have touched the hearts of many in many ways.

alicia banks said...

anon:

ditto!
please do see it

gabby sidibe is a novice and she has never acted before!...her actress pals forced hre to audition because of her physical look which lee d solicited...

she was awesome!

the breadth of her role was just very limited compared to her oscar contenders...
&
she has already begun making 2 more films...her own oscar night is yet to come!


if you have ever been hurt, verbally abused, rejected, had anyone tried to kill your spirit and limit your life in any way...you will relate to this film!

ie
i have great parents
i went to uiuc at age 12
my mom is my best friend
and
i have never been molested

BUT
i have been abused for being gay black and female countless times in my life...ie

in atl i created produced and hosted a legendary FM radio show dedicated to exclusively the voices of black women from 1986-1996...it too me 2yrs to sell it...MANY laughed in my face...i got the last laugh

the show was a mega hit that launched a second somultaneous historical AM talk career and my most loyal fans were MEN!...

as i watched precious and her mom kept telling her to be a welfare drone and stop dreaming of education etc...i recalled all those sexist radio execs who laughed in my face before i refused to take THEIR calls...

to me,
precious was me in those radio ofcs, and she is every person who has ever been sabotaged wounded and STILL survived!

alicia banks said...

anon:

ps



Why has Alicia Banks, a beloved radio voice, gone back to school? 'I want to be as radical and renowned as a professor as I am as a talk show host.' Her FM show...has been her 'labor of love' for a decade...'I decided to change careers at this point because radio has been entirely locked down by white male neocons'...The same forces that inspired Banks to head to the hills of academia conspire against marginal forces in music...She points out that the vast majority of radio stations are owned by a small number of companies, and playlists are increasingly computerized...." GIRLFRIENDS MAGAZINE 7/2000

"Musicologist, activist, and cyber columnist is how Alicia Banks describes herself. But she's better known to her fans and detractors as a popular talk radio personality. She is the producer, creator, and host of two radio shows...Alicia heats up early morning airwaves with her take-no -prisoners approach. But her shock-jock comparisons end with her eclectic mix of music and anti-racist interpretation...." GIRLFRIENDS MAGAZINE 9/1997

"Alicia Banks drops a weekly bomb fused with consciousness and sister melodies..." HUES MAGAZINE 11/1996

"If talk radio seems dominated by clones of Rush Limbaugh, Alicia Banks is the answer...Her fans revere her...The creator of two immensely popular radio programs, Banks has her finger on the pulse of American culture. There's a growing hunger for her message..." VICTORY MAGAZINE 1/1996

"Banks makes it her business to deliver music, news and commentary in a way that challenges...Her show has become ground zero for a fire storm of controversy...Banks has built an enthusiastic audience and won a second prime time talk show...."OUT MAGAZINE 6/1994

"Banks' programs are no ordinary talk shows...Her broadcasts are not to be taken lightly. She seems ready for anything. She is fearless..." DENEUVE MAGAZINE 6/1994

"Banks' program combines the voices of Dinah Washington and Billie Holiday with tribal songs, fictional readings, erotica, and political discussions. It is the politics which have caused a stir..." THE WASHINGTON BLADE 2/25/1994

"Alicia Banks jumped the tracks from FM to AM, sending sparks through the airwaves and widening debates on heated topics...Banks is no ordinary talk show host. She's articulate, intelligent, and above all, she's fearless...Banks' soft graceful voice belies the forcefulness of her views...Since 1989, the French-fluent host has segued personal commentary and literary messages with hours of music..." ATLANTA JOURNAL CONSTITUTION 10/14/1993

"Since 1989, Alicia has been heating up the airwaves with her eyebrow raising program...Although the show is packed with great voices of the past and present, there's room for deep talk...Banks is now having the last laugh with her success..." ATLANTA MAGAZINE 10/1993

"Alicia Banks is no wimp... It's that kind of outspokenness that has brought an audience to her show..." SOUTHERN VOICE 6/17/1993

alicia banks said...

anon:

ps

part of the reason i will always despise colon powell and his son michael is they strategically destroyed FCC monopoly rules that allowed neocons to take over all radio...rush clones to silence ALL of us liberals nationally...and black minstrel shows like the tjms to keep all local political black voices OFF of the air....tragic

npr is really the only radio i listen to now...

alicia banks said...

BLACKS BEAT AND KILL MORE GAYS THAN WHITES DAILY ALL OVER THE GLOBE!!!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/12/eudy-simelane-corrective-rape-south-africa