Sunday, May 08, 2011

Imams kicked off a plane.



That sounds like a movie title or something.



There have been times when I was getting on a plane and I felt a strong urge to tell the pilot that I was uncomfortable with certain passengers: The ones with the infants who were acting up in the waiting area, for instance. Or, the family with the screaming obnoxious teen aged kids. But I never did it, because I knew that it wouldn't do me any good.




So how did those passengers in Memphis manage to get the pilot of an ASA flight heading to Charlotte to return to the gate area after taxiing onto the runway? I guess all fears aren't created equal. Only a really strong fear would cause a pilot to do such a thing to protect his or her airplane.




Boy It must really suck to be a Muslim these days. I guess if you are a Muslim and planning a trip you have to make all kinds of contingency plans and prepare yourself for the worst. Kind of like us Negroes used to do back in the day when traveling down South. We always had to pack our food because stopping in some places just wasn't an option. Rest room stops? Forget about it. Your restroom was where you felt safe getting out of the car and getting your tinkle on. God forbid you really had to do the business. But I digress.



Anywhoo, it seems that the Imams were heading to a conference on prejudice and "Islamophobia". "My brothers and sisters, do we ever have a story to tell you about our trip...." Talk about irony. Fellows tell your peeps to hold your next conference in a place like Philly. We see folks in traditional Muslim garb everyday. Even if they were born and raised right here in the USA. Just an FYI; you guys might not want to hold a conference south of the Mason- Dixon line in the future.



Oh well, all is well that ends well. There were apologies all around and the men said that they were treated very well by TSA agents. In fact, they said that the folks at Delta Airlines seemed downright embarrassed by the whole incident. Meanwhile, those worried passengers were able to head along on their merry way without having to worry about those funny looking people on their plane.


I could never be so lucky.





71 comments:

alicia banks said...

racism is no relic

but it is a great diversion from hobama's global wars/the new world order/jobs/food and gas prices/poverty/banksters etc

shame!...

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/733030853/racism-is-no-relic---remember-the-lynching-of-james-byrd/?page=6#viewcomments

____

Queen Laa:

more on the national race wars between blacks and latinos which that blind fool uts denies...

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8114344

Anonymous said...

Field, thanks for sharing this piece. And making it relevant to our own experiences.

Mold

South Park Conservatives said...

I can't believe things like this are still happening in Obama's America.

I agee with you AB.Keeping America divided by race and class is a part of this regimes new world order.

Anonymous said...

Field, thanks for sharing this piece. And making it relevant to our own experiences.

Mold


Mold, I understand but I don't think your getting kicked off the plane for making poopies in your underoos is the same thing..............What you heard was not down with the "jew" it was who made that stinkin "poo"

alicia banks said...

spc:

amen!

larry flynt said it best:



This was never more obvious than with the Wall Street bailout, whereby the very corporations that caused the collapse of our economy were rewarded with taxpayer dollars. So arrogant, so smug were they that, without a moment's hesitation, they took our money -- yours and mine -- to pay their executives multimillion-dollar bonuses, something they continue doing to this very day. They have no shame. They don't care what you and I think about them. Henry Kissinger refers to us as "useless eaters."

But, you say, we have elected a candidate of change. To which I respond: Do these words of President Obama sound like change?

"A culture of irresponsibility took root, from Wall Street to Washington to Main Street."

There it is. Right there. We are Main Street. We must, according to our president, share the blame. He went on to say: "And a regulatory regime basically crafted in the wake of a 20th-century economic crisis -- the Great Depression -- was overwhelmed by the speed, scope and sophistication of a 21st-century global economy."

This is nonsense.

The reason Wall Street was able to game the system the way it did -- knowing that they would become rich at the expense of the American people (oh, yes, they most certainly knew that) -- was because the financial elite had bribed our legislators to roll back the protections enacted after the Stock Market Crash of 1929.
Instead, Obama wants to increase the oversight power of the Federal Reserve. Never mind that it already had significant oversight power before our most recent economic meltdown, yet failed to take action. Never mind that the Fed is not a government agency but a cartel of private bankers that cannot be held accountable by Washington. Whatever the Fed does with these supposed new oversight powers will be behind closed doors.

Obama's failure to act sends one message loud and clear: He cannot stand up to the powerful Wall Street interests that supplied the bulk of his campaign money for the 2008 election. Nor, for that matter, can Congress, for much the same reason.

Consider what multibillionaire banker David Rockefeller wrote in his 2002 memoirs:
"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

Read Rockefeller's words again. He actually admits to working against the "best interests of the United States."

Need more? Here's what Rockefeller said in 1994 at a U.N. dinner: "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." They're gaming us. Our country has been stolen from us.

The real war is not between the left and the right. It is between the average American and the ruling class. If we come together on this single issue, everything else will resolve itself. It's time we took back our government from those who would make us their slaves.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-flynt/common-sense-2009_b_264706.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-flynt

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/732463009/hobama-drama---the-poor-are-getting-poorer-and-the-middle-class-is-being-eradicated/

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/747103873/the-new-american-global-war-crimes-spree-%E2%80%93--hobama%E2%80%99s-international-thug-swagger/

Anonymous said...

Field, it's nice of you to share this item. We should ask if we have learned. And the similarities to the AfAm experience are striking.
It must be the clothing...why can't they wear the Duane Hansen uniform?
Wonder what these Muslims have in common with the folks who were refused service in restaurants....removed from schools....denied the right to vote?
Oh...I know!

Mold

Anonymous said...

corporate prejudice

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Field, it's nice of you to share this item. We should ask if we have learned. And the similarities to the AfAm experience are striking.
It must be the clothing...why can't they wear the Duane Hansen uniform?
Wonder what these Muslims have in common with the folks who were refused service in restaurants....removed from schools....denied the right to vote?
Oh...I know!

Mold



Osama wants you, you are just his type of recruit. Oh wait he's dead...well you are brain dead so it's a match made in paradise. Speaking of paradise if you become a martyr do you want 72 virgin goats?

Anonymous said...

Unbelievable, so whats next will Muslims have to sew a star and crescent on there clothes ? Post racial Amerikkka what a joke.

La♥audiobooks said...

Sigh. Why do some black people always have this insistent obligated need to give unsolicited support to others who DO NOT LIKE THEM ANYWAY? Misery is always looking for company, they say.

Those same non-black muslims would be the first to jump out a cab, or an elevator if a big bobo-knotty dread black man jumped in. They would have been late for their workshop either way. Next.

Smashed The Tiny Black Box said...

Meh, I'm not going to march for their rights. Would they do the same for me? No, they probably think I'm subhuman and my kids are future criminals. F-em. At this point, I'm mainly looking out for my own.

If the TSA was that effective with their naked scanners and sexual assault groping, why throw them off the plane? Were they on some watch list.

Gee, maybe they should do what everyone claims black people and immigrants must do....assimilate. I don't know, wear more western clothes when flying. I they have a right to wear whatever they want. Well, just because you can...

When more moderate Muslims speak out against fundamentalist violence, and when non-black Muslims stop looking at black people world wide as subhuman, maybe I'll speak out in their favor. Since these other minority groups like to distance themselves from us....whatever.

South Park Conservatives said...

Hey FN,was just checking some of your old post.You were quite the angry FN back than.Now you seem more corporate.Anyhoooooo


I think the thing that has to be looked at is if Obama's kill order was on the mind of the pilot?

Has Obama made a target out of muslims?

Has Obama made it ok to kill those funny people who kiss the ground?

I hope not.I mean jezzzzzzz.

Can't we just all get along?

rainywalker said...

It would be better to take 2 Imams off a fight than to gas 2,000,000 Jews. The Jews weren't trying to kill the Great Satin. We may be mixing apples and oranges here. The Japanese detension camps during WWII would be a better example.
I flew some during Vietnam but you wouldn't catch me on any flight now. Not because of the Imams. I just hate the bootjacks in TSA.

alicia banks said...

real racism wars and truths are censored from all msm...

more than ever via hobama!

see reality:

http://www.youtube.com/user/aliciabanks?feature=mhum#p/f/16/h4qfYRUm0EM

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/737785087/the-audacity-of-censorship----hobamas-internet-apartheid/

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/747103873/the-new-american-global-war-crimes-spree-%E2%80%93--hobama%E2%80%99s-international-thug-swagger/

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/732463514/hobamas-global-serial-wars-will-be-worse-than-vietnam/

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/733047926/hobamas-africom--afri-con---the-african-american-mask-upon-the-new-world-order-inside-africa/

field negro said...

Hey FN,was just checking some of your old post.You were quite the angry FN back than.Now you seem more corporate.Anyhoooooo" gone.

W and his cabal are gone, that might explain it.

Besides, my sister told me to stop swearing so much, I was embarrasing her. ;)

La~Audio, I hate to get all Niemoller on you here, but
"First they came for.....

Anonymous said...

Hey FN,was just checking some of your old post.You were quite the angry FN back than.Now you seem more corporate.Anyhoooooo" gone.

W and his cabal are gone, that might explain it.

Besides, my sister told me to stop swearing so much, I was embarrasing her. ;)

La~Audio, I hate to get all Niemoller on you here, but
"First they came for.....


c'mon Field, if we are all in this together as Americans can't we protect each other? This includes Muslims, why do we always have to segregate? Once I hear ONE muslim tell me the truth and not support a terrorist group while denouncing the koran then I will believe there are moderate non radical muslims, haven't heard one yet have you? Wouldn't they be killed by honor code by any muslim who heard them denounce that Mohammed was a pedophile who preached and preached complete adherance to the murderous code of the koran?

You do know how they feel about Black folk right? American prison Islam is seen as a tolerated abortion of thier religion.

Wesley R said...

Field,

Hopefully our Civil Rights leaders will speak up about this. Yea Right.

If anyone gets time check out Dr. Gates 'Black, in Latin America'. Videos are on PBS website.

Lakers are full of divas. Time to blow it up!

no_slappz said...

field writes:

Anywhoo, it seems that the Imams were heading to a conference on prejudice and "Islamophobia".

Please. A conference on "Islamophobia" is a conference of imams ranting against the First Amendment and what they would do to repeal it and make criticism of Allah, Muhammad and Islam a crime, just like it is back home.

Have you noticed that muslims NEVER actually conduct outreach programs to build better relations with the "infidels". They work only toward stopping Americans from speaking their minds.

And now we're seeing that plenty of muslims still think a lot of bin Laden. Even if only 10% of all muslims are bin Laden sympathizers, that's 10% of 1.3 BILLION muslims -- 130 million.

no_slappz said...

Inasmuch as Islam is a religion, a political doctrine and a military all rolled into one, there's no reason to accommodate muslims in restricted venues such as airplanes.

Meanwhile, it isn't as though "Islamophobia" is a paranoid delusion. Muslims have committed over 17,000 acts of terrorism since 9/11.

Thus, when muslims take action against their own internal bad boys, they might receive acceptance by average Americans.

But as long as Pakistan willingly harbors bin Laden and other Islamic terrorists, there's no reason to give these clowns the benefit of the doubt.

As the world knows, muslims are doing nothing to improve the image of Islam.

La♥audiobooks said...

"La~Audio, I hate to get all Niemoller on you here, but
"First they came for.....
"

Field, when did they ever stop coming for us black folk? I didn't get that memo.

Here's another, when it comes to black people...


"The enemy of my enemy will always prefer to be my enemy too."

-La

Mack Lyons said...

"Sigh. Why do some black people always have this insistent obligated need to give unsolicited support to others who DO NOT LIKE THEM ANYWAY? Misery is always looking for company, they say."

Racial mistreatment is a cyclical sort of thing. Mistreatment meted out to one ethnic group or another will invariably be visited on you and yours. Which is why it's in most black people's best interests to make sure this treatment ceases, for all ethnic groups. Sometimes that means standing by Latinos or Indians who wouldn't otherwise give them the time of day. Their problems will end up becoming ours at some point, so the need to toss that bag of shit somewhere else before it starts stinking up everyone's joint becomes important.

"Inasmuch as Islam is a religion, a political doctrine and a military all rolled into one, there's no reason to accommodate muslims in restricted venues such as airplanes."

Some people can say that about Christianity. "One nation under God"? I know that phrase was inserted in the Pledge of Allegiance at the height of Commie Fever, but considering how scores of people would love to see a form of fundamentalist Christianity integrate itself into the governing functions of this nation.....

But you don't see Christians being kicked off of planes. Unless it happened to be headed to Mecca, but that's a whole 'nother story in itself.

"The enemy of my enemy will always prefer to be my enemy too."

I thought it was "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". Explains America's relationship with Pakistan, Afghanistan and a host of other nations somewhat.

field negro said...

"Racial mistreatment is a cyclical sort of thing. Mistreatment meted out to one ethnic group or another will invariably be visited on you and yours. Which is why it's in most black people's best interests to make sure this treatment ceases, for all ethnic groups"

CHURCH!



"'Inasmuch as Islam is a religion, a political doctrine and a military all rolled into one, there's no reason to accommodate muslims in restricted venues such as airplanes.'

Some people can say that about Christianity. "One nation under God"? I know that phrase was inserted in the Pledge of Allegiance at the height of Commie Fever, but considering how scores of people would love to see a form of fundamentalist Christianity integrate itself into the governing functions of this nation....."

MACK, WHERE YOUR OFFERING PLATE AT? GO ON AND PREACH IT!

Anonymous said...

christmoles are a problem. Even when caught trying to induce theocracy upon US citizens, some of their fellow travelers in the MSM will attempt to cover up the efforts. Make no mistake, they wish to install a Mullah type of gubmint...like Iran suffers under...with their holy selves as the final arbiters.

Mold

no_slappz said...

mack lyons writes:

Some people can say that about Christianity.

"Some people" can say anything. But there are NO Christian theocracies in the world.

NO nation derives its constitution from either book of the Bible.

NO nation declares the Bible to be the infallible word of a god.

It does not matter that followers of various religions believe they are onto something that rises above government. Unless you are a muslim living in an Islamic nation, in which case your government and your religion form the basis of your state.

"One nation under God"?

Do you realize the god in this phrase is a non-denominational god, a god of some higher power, but NOT of a specific religion?

I know that phrase was inserted in the Pledge of Allegiance at the height of Commie Fever,

Yes, the communists, who banned acknowledgement of any and all gods. You know, "religion is the opiate of the people".

Communists banned all religions. In retrospect, the Soviet Union would have lasted a lot longer if it had given no thought to Christianity and Judaism, but instead focused on booting out the muslims, or at least the Soviets should have told the Islamic republics to get lost.

...but considering how scores of people would love to see a form of fundamentalist Christianity integrate itself into the governing functions of this nation...

People want a lot from their government. But, whether you understand it or not, there really is, and always will be, a separation of Church and State.

But you don't see Christians being kicked off of planes.

No one has ever hijacked or attempted to destroy a plane in the name of Jesus. Ever. However, since 9/11, muslims have committed over 17,000 acts of terrorism -- you know, in the name of Allah.

They love to say "Allahu Ackbar" as they set off the bomb or pull the trigger.

Unless it happened to be headed to Mecca, but that's a whole 'nother story in itself.

Why is that another story? That contempt for all non-muslims is THEE story.

As the traffic signs on the highway into Mecca says -- Muslims, enter here. Non-muslims, you must by-pass Mecca. Follow this road.

Everyone in the world is welcome to visit the holiest sites of Christianity and Judaism. But non-muslims cannot enter Mecca or Medina.

Absolutely everything about Islam is repulsive.

flitac said...

La~Audio, I hate to get all Niemoller on you here, but
"First they came for.....



Perfectly said.

Stupid black hole box, you should read this as well. Be the change you want to be in the world, not some selfish idiot. Get over yourself. Don't let your oppression cloud your vision of a world of peace and justice for all. People like you make me sick. I almost just vomitted in my mouth a bit.

Wait a second...you and Laa are both female perhaps that has something to do with the bitter attitude.

Just sayin.

Selfish bitches.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
christmoles are a problem. Even when caught trying to induce theocracy upon US citizens, some of their fellow travelers in the MSM will attempt to cover up the efforts. Make no mistake, they wish to install a Mullah type of gubmint...like Iran suffers under...with their holy selves as the final arbiters.

Mold


so in your mind you are comparing actual practices of Islam and actual governments governed under Islam with christianity conspiracies to be like them.

First I would say, what's the problem, you like Islam so?

Second, provide proof. We will wait.

By the way still waiting for one name/one house/one family that you said you have been too of the top 5 families in my county where I would get thrown out. What is taking you so long? You said you had at least five?

I see you deleted your post on this, but thats ok, I remember and want the names you offered to provide.

Please hurry up and stop stalling or just admit your a bullshit artist and move on, up to you.

no_slappz said...

It's refreshing to see that Obama has, in his own way, acknowledged that every effort made by Bush to defeat Islamic terrorism has become the way of the Obama administration.

However, it's worth reminding the Obama idealists that since Obama became president and stopped all use of "enhanced interrogation techniques" the US also stopped locating the lesser members of al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups.

We got bin Laden because we obtained the most important information that led to his whereabouts through waterboarding and other tough practices.

However, since January 2009, the only way we've knocked off leaders is by luck, for us, anyway, but unlucky for them for being where the bombs landed.

To win wars, the enemy leaders have to die. The sooner they die, the sooner the fighting stops.

Now we know the leadership of al-Qaeda goes all the way up to the top of the Pakistani government.

What's Obama going to do about that?

Now that he's into assassinations, will he help the Libyans? The Syrians? The Iranians?

It's amusing that Obama's loving supporters have remained virtually silent over the fact that he authorized the invasion of an ally and the execution of someone enjoying the protection of his host country.

It was said over and over that Bush wanted to kill Saddam. Well, the Iraqis did the final killing. And Bush wanted to kill bin Laden, but the killing occurred on Obama's orders -- without a word to the heads of any other nations, without any of the usual authorizations.

I think it's great. Even Obama's believers now have to admit that fighting terrorism is a dirty business and the only way to win the war is to dive as far down into the muck as it's possible to go, and kill the bad guys when you get down there.

Hathor said...

LAC,
In Philly, those who boarded that plane may have very well have been black.

I don't what those passengers would do if they toured Philly, black, white, in all types of garb. Is that turban Sikh or Shiite?

Hathor said...

I don't understand why those passengers only noticed the Imans after they boarded. I also don't know why the pilot would return from the runway. If I were a passenger I think I would be more upset from the commotion the other passengers must have exhibited to make the pilot return.

Anonymous said...

Christianity has been the major religion of the Western world for almost 2000 years, and yet the Western world has been the cause of all of the worst man-induced catastrophies in the world. World War I, in which more than 20 million people died; World War II, in which over 16 million people died (over 100,000 mostly women and children in one day) when the Christians dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima; the Holy Inquisition, where millions of people known as “heretics” were burned at the stake at the hands of the Roman Catholic church (a practice that continued for over 600 years and didn't end until the 19th century); the African slave trade, where as many as 600 million Africans died over a period of 400+ years; the almost complete extinction of the indigenous people of three continents (North America, South America and Oceana); the polluted condition of the environment, which is causing millions of people world-wide to die prematurely; AIDS, which has already killed over a million people worldwide and infected close to 1 billion is continuing to spread: and the list goes on and on. With such a diabolical history, Afrikan people would either be complete fools or complete idiots to continue to believe in the doctrines and entrust fate, our children's fate, and our children's children's fate into the hands of white people.

Cracker Travel Agency said...

" Anonymous said...
With such a diabolical history, Afrikan people would either be complete fools or complete idiots to continue to believe in the doctrines and entrust fate, our children's fate, and our children's children's fate into the hands of white people.

11:13 AM"


When you're right; you're right.

So, take your mistreated selves back to Africa.

The evil whities won't stop you. Hell, we'll even pay your way.

mellaneous said...

Mack I agree wholeheartedly in fact I have been trying to make that point to LAA for at least a year now.

It is true that we as human beings are indeed bound by a common humanity.

But I get where LAA is coming from, why help someone else they may never help you in return?

I suspect that LAA has lived an impeccable and upstanding life and has never needed grace in other words she has never needed and received something she didn't quite deserve.

@Anon - you must be crazy. Have you ventured into the real world? I know a lot of Muslims and they would think that you are crazy. The folks who you think of are a small fringe of Islamacist. Most in fact the majority of Muslims are just like you and I of course minus your crazy insinuations.

Anonymous said...

Christianity has been the major religion of the Western world for almost 2000 years, and yet the Western world has been the cause of all of the worst man-induced catastrophies in the world. World War I, in which more than 20 million people died; World War II, in which over 16 million people died (over 100,000 mostly women and children in one day) when the Christians dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima; the Holy Inquisition, where millions of people known as “heretics” were burned at the stake at the hands of the Roman Catholic church (a practice that continued for over 600 years and didn't end until the 19th century); the African slave trade, where as many as 600 million Africans died over a period of 400+ years; the almost complete extinction of the indigenous people of three continents (North America, South America and Oceana); the polluted condition of the environment, which is causing millions of people world-wide to die prematurely; AIDS, which has already killed over a million people worldwide and infected close to 1 billion is continuing to spread: and the list goes on and on. With such a diabolical history, Afrikan people would either be complete fools or complete idiots to continue to believe in the doctrines and entrust fate, our children's fate, and our children's children's fate into the hands of white people.


But just how would you know this MOLD? You are a white guy.

Anonymous said...

Slappy, denial of the theocrats in the US is funny. Even the MSM has uncovered christmoles. Dover was just one of their attempts to impose their version of a sub-sect of christianity upon others. Wasn't there a 'mens-only' christian congresscritter 'frat' house? Are not the Reconstructionists and Dominionists writing legislation?
Dave Niewart has written about these losers...and the danger they pose to the Republic. While you may thinkerate you are safe from them...what about your children...or your spouse...or your stuff?


Mold

Anonymous said...

@Anon - you must be crazy. Have you ventured into the real world? I know a lot of Muslims and they would think that you are crazy. The folks who you think of are a small fringe of Islamacist. Most in fact the majority of Muslims are just like you and I of course minus your crazy insinuations.

Crazy Insinuations? How about dealing with reality. Here is just a quick snippet of todays news. I wonder how supposedly christian black preachers like you will handle Islam calling for Obama's execution as he is an apostate or one who turns his back on Islam. Yes that peaceful loving religion that you cannot leave or you will be executed.

They may be just like you, but I believe in western civilized laws, I don't believe women are garbage and don't believe in pedophilia wether sanctioned by allah or not.
I don't believe in murdering infidels or non believers and on and on, If you do, then you may want to move to Sudan or Somalia or another similar country. As a man of christ you would be dead within a few weeks the minute you practised heresy and said anything about christianity in these "loving" muslim countries.



(MEMRI) — Following are excerpts from a statement by Sheik ‘Atiyya Muhammad Sa’id, a member of the Sudanese Islamic Scholars Association, at a rally, which was posted on the Internet on May 5, 2011:

Sheik ‘Atiyya Muhammad Sa’id: By Allah, the state of Islam will be established upon the land, whether the infidels like it or not, whether the Jews like it or not, whether that apostate… What’s his name… The one from America… Obama!

Obama is a Muslim who has left the fold of Islam. Hence, Allah, the angels, and all the people curse him. He is a real apostate. Obama is an apostate. Obama is an apostate. He left the fold of Islam…

Crowds: The apostate must be executed.

The apostate must be executed.

The apostate must be executed.

The apostate must be executed.

Mack Lyons said...

"Do you realize the god in this phrase is a non-denominational god, a god of some higher power, but NOT of a specific religion?"

When you ask people about the phrase "One nation under God", which religion is the first to come to their minds?

It's implied that the above is a Christian phrase. As you know, there is no way people in the U.S. are going to imply that "One nation under God" means "under Allah" or "under Buddah". Not gonna happen.

"NO nation derives its constitution from either book of the Bible.

NO nation declares the Bible to be the infallible word of a god.

It does not matter that followers of various religions believe they are onto something that rises above government. Unless you are a muslim living in an Islamic nation, in which case your government and your religion form the basis of your state."


There's no declaration needed. It's all about implication.

Fundamentalist Christians (who probably should be referred to as theocrats, in this case) are content with influencing government policy. They don't have to take it over lock stock and barrel a la national governments under Islam.

"Communists banned all religions. In retrospect, the Soviet Union would have lasted a lot longer if it had given no thought to Christianity and Judaism, but instead focused on booting out the muslims, or at least the Soviets should have told the Islamic republics to get lost. "

If you think long and hard about it, Communism itself was a religion, since it involved worship of the State, with Karl Marx as its prophet and the kommissars as religious counsel.

Mack Lyons said...

"But I get where LAA is coming from, why help someone else they may never help you in return?"

I get this, too. But I don't agree with turning your nose up at someone who is being mistreated, knowing damn well that 1) it also happened to you, and 2) as soon as they get done with them, they'll be back around your way with the same bullshit. Stop it before it gets to you and yours.

"I suspect that LAA has lived an impeccable and upstanding life and has never needed grace in other words she has never needed and received something she didn't quite deserve."

I'm not gonna assume what life she lived or how it molded her views on this. That's a good way to get knee-deep in some back-and-forth bullshit.

Anon @12:07, do you happen to have a source link for that story?

Ms. Ann G. Myma said...

Fear was not the reason for this pilot's refusal to permit these men to fly. No indeed! After all, they had passed all security checkpoints. This is a act of power and subjugation by white supremacy. Guys like this pilot love denying "the other" equal treatment in this society. It's what get's them off! It esteems them. I'll bet the pilot is a right-wing, Rush Limbaugh listening, Fox News watching, stooge.

Furthermore, notice if you will, the media has not revealed the pilot's name. However, they had no problem identifying and printing the names of the Muslims.

Anonymous said...

Mack, a small quibble...Communism was never, ever a religion. That is a lie told to US folks.
Following that 'loigc'...we worship Washington. He is on money, vast public edifices, and is highly venerated.
Don't know where you found that...but it's time you spoke with some Russians.

AnnG...interesting point. Have to mull that for a time.

Mold

Ms. Ann G. Myma said...

no_slappz said...
No one has ever hijacked or attempted to destroy a plane in the name of Jesus. Ever. However, since 9/11, muslims have committed over 17,000 acts of terrorism -- you know, in the name of Allah.
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Where did you get this 17,000 figure from Slappz? Please provide a link or book that does not include the right-wing blogesphere. Otherwise, we will have to presume that you are a bloody liar.

Anonymous said...

AnnG, plenty of sharing this number by wingnuts and the wingnut Wurlitzer...but no actual source. Seems like it is a Breitbart...and is very likely false.

But....it sounderated real good!!

Mold

uptownsteve said...

Ann G. Myma

"Where did you get this 17,000 figure from Slappz?"

The same place he gets most of his assertions.

His butt.

uptownsteve said...

LAA,

"Why do some black people always have this insistent obligated need to give unsolicited support to others who DO NOT LIKE THEM ANYWAY?"

Do you feel the same way about the white Freedom Riders and other whites who were involved in the Civil Rights Movement?

Black folks most of all should be vigilant against racial or religious injustice no matter who it's directed at if we expect people to recognize our struggle.

Ms. Ann G. Myma said...

After 9-11 occurred, for several days I listened to right-wing radio. It was vicious and highly racist. It was not exclusively aim at Muslims,though they certainly received the most hostility. It was basically anybody who was not white. Some guy actually thought the Chinese were involved.

Frankly, the Muslim Terrorist is not a source of fear for me. Perhaps, it's due to my skepticism about the facts surrounding 9-11. However, the white, right-wing , christian fundamentalist is another story. The list below is from April 19, 1995 to June 35, 2009.



TERROR FROM THE RIGHT

EXCERPTS:

At 9:02 a.m. on April 19, 1995, a 7,000-pound truck bomb, constructed of ammonium nitrate fertilizer and nitromethane racing fuel and packed into 13 plastic barrels, ripped through the heart of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. The explosion wrecked much of downtown Oklahoma City and killed 168 people, including 19 children in a day-care center. Another 500 were injured. The slaughter engineered by Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, men steeped in the conspiracy theories and white-hot fury of the American radical right, marked the opening shot in a new kind of domestic political extremism — a revolutionary ideology whose practitioners do not hesitate to carry out attacks directed at entirely innocent victims, people selected essentially at random to make a political point.

July 28, 1995
Antigovernment extremist Charles Ray Polk is arrested after trying to purchase a machine gun from an undercover police officer, and is later indicted by federal grand jury for plotting to blow up the Internal Revenue Service building in Austin, Texas. At the time of his arrest, Polk is trying to purchase plastic explosives to add to the already huge arsenal he's amassed. Polk is sentenced to almost 21 years in federal prison.

October 9, 1995
Saboteurs derail an Amtrak passenger train near Hyder, Ariz., killing one person and injuring about 70 others. Several antigovernment messages, signed by the "Sons of Gestapo," are left behind. The perpetrators remain at large.

November 9, 1995
Oklahoma Constitutional Militia leader Willie Ray Lampley, his wife Cecilia and another man, John Dare Baird, are arrested as they prepare explosives to bomb numerous targets, including the Southern Poverty Law Center, gay bars and abortion clinics. The three, along with another suspect arrested later, are sentenced to terms of up to 11 years in 1996. Cecilia Lampley is released in 2000, while Baird and Willie Lampley — who wrote letters from prison urging others to violence — are freed in 2004 and 2006, respectively.

December 18, 1995
An Internal Revenue Service (IRS) employee discovers a plastic drum packed with ammonium nitrate and fuel oil in a parking lot behind the IRS building in Reno, Nev. The device failed to explode a day earlier when a three-foot fuse went out prematurely. Ten days later, tax protester Joseph Martin Bailie is arrested. Bailie is eventually sentenced to 36 years in federal prison, with a release date of 2027. An accomplice, Ellis Edward Hurst, is released in 2004.



Please continue at:

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/terror-from-the-right

Ms. Ann G. Myma said...

RIGHT WING ACTS OF TERROR 2010

EXCERPT:

-- February 2010: An angry tax protester named Joseph Ray Stack flies an airplane into the building housing IRS offices in Austin, Texas. (Media are reluctant to label this one "domestic terrorism" too.)

-- March 2010: Seven militiamen from the Hutaree Militia in Michigan and Ohio are arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate local police officers with the intent of sparking a new civil war.

-- March 2010: An anti-government extremist named John Patrick Bedell walks into the Pentagon and opens fire, wounding two officers before he is himself shot dead.

-- May 2010: A "sovereign citizen" from Georgia is arrested in Tennessee and charged with plotting the violent takeover of a local county courthouse.

-- May 2010: A still-unidentified white man walks into a Jacksonville, Fla., mosque and sets it afire, simultaneously setting off a pipe bomb.

-- May 2010: Two "sovereign citizens" named Jerry and Joe Kane gun down two police officers who pull them over for a traffic violation, and then wound two more officers in a shootout in which both of them are eventually killed.

-- July 2010: An agitated right-winger and convict named Byron Williams loads up on weapons and drives to the Bay Area intent on attacking the offices of the Tides Foundation and the ACLU, but is intercepted by state patrolmen and engages them in a shootout and armed standoff in which two officers and Williams are wounded.

-- September 2010: A Concord, N.C., man is arrested and charged with plotting to blow up a North Carolina abortion clinic. The man, 26-year--old Justin Carl Moose, referred to himself as the "Christian counterpart to (Osama) bin Laden” in a taped undercover meeting with a federal informant.

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/terror-arizona-just-another-isolated

no_slappz said...

mack lyons writes:

When you ask people about the phrase "One nation under God", which religion is the first to come to their minds?

It's implied that the above is a Christian phrase.


Implied? Try testing your implicatiion in court.

The concept of god is obviously separate from the specifics of religion.

As you know, there is no way people in the U.S. are going to imply that "One nation under God" means "under Allah" or "under Buddah".

One nation under... does not imply ANYTHING other than an admission that there are forces in the universe more powerful than man understands.

Again, the "god" does not have a religion -- no matter what you want to believe.

But the god to which Islamic nations submit does have a religion -- Islam -- and those nations have legislated and codified rules of their societies in accordance with the Quran.

no_slappz said...

mack lyons writes:

If you think long and hard about it, Communism itself was a religion, since it involved worship of the State, with Karl Marx as its prophet and the kommissars as religious counsel.

Yeah, I'd have to think long and hard about it, and then I'd say to myself that Communism is like Islam because Marx and his pal Engles wrote a book, and then there was this Communist Manifesto, and Das Kapital, and they became like the Quran to some people.

But imagine the surprise of Marx, who was desperately hoping to bring Communism to Germany, when it utterly failed to catch on there, but a number of years later, became a big hit in Russia.

There, in Russia, all the wisdom of Marx was reinterpreted by Lenin, the local prophet, who got a lot of people to fight for Marxism/Leninism, and eventually the Communism religion became the law of the land, which gave it total control of the political system and the military.

So yeah, it was just like Islam without Allah. Just Marx, who was its Muhammad.

mellaneous said...

@Mack you missed the point I was sure you got my point to LAA and that is being narrow and regional in your thinking may also limit what you get in return.

I think her position is unexceptional and a bit sophmoric I don't understand why she continues to roll it out. I mean whats the big deal its how most folks think, so why brag about being caught up in backwards herd thinking.

Ultimately we are all in this together its just that the more forward thinking of us see it right now.

@Steve- that was a good question you put to LAA. Obvioulsy everyone isn't your enemy and if noone reaches out nothing happens and if nothing happens nothing changes.

@ Hey Field others check out my Mothers Day reflection I think some of the mothers of 9/11 victims are morally ahead of the rest of us.

www.dredscottsghost.com

mellaneous said...

Anon you still sound like a lunatic. A fringe group says something crazy and it represents all of them.

Should Christians be judged by the crazy Christian preacher that runs around to dead soldiers funerals saying he is glad that they are dead and they got what they deserve and all other kind of foul things. And this when folks are grieving their loved one.

Or should we be judged because of the crazy preacher who burned the Korans.

Or better yet should we be judged by the wild Christians who are hoping that the Palestinians and the Isrealis kill one another off so that Armegeddon will come?

And trust me I could go on thats just the tip of the iceberg.

When I was in Bible College a few devout Christians took it upon themselves to tell us black students that God didn't "save no niggers." And this was in an environment in which we grudgingly welcomed in the first place, yet they claimed to be lovers of God and God's representatives.

Should I have judged all Christianity by all this.

Put your pin down, it just poisons the water here and serves no purpose.

no_slappz said...

ms ann g myma,

Your list of terrorist acts and attempted terrorist acts is irrelevant.

None of the acts were the work of a global religion, politcal doctrine, military with a 1,400-year history of violence.

Every act you listed was the act of single individuals or very small groups with no ties to larger organizations.

None of your list of idiots was tied to a government or carrying out the desires of legitimate entities operating within the law.

In short, everywhere on the planet there are nuts with their own grievances against the world.

As long as there are people there will be individual nuts who simply will not accept the realities of the nations in which they live, and rather than find a place in keeping with their philosophies, they commit, or attempt to commit a crime that is aimed at destroying the existing society.

It never works..

Anonymous said...

uptownsteve said:
"Black folks most of all should be vigilant against racial or religious injustice no matter who it's directed at if we expect people to recognize our struggle."

Does that include people like the transgendered woman who was beaten by several black girls/women who didn't like the fact that she used the women's bathroom? Which she had every right to do.

Ms. Ann G. Myma said...

11:13 AM
Anonymous Cracker Travel Agency said..

So, take your mistreated selves back to Africa.

The evil whities won't stop you. Hell, we'll even pay your way.
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In 1910, 99.2% of all Black Americans were native born and only 60% of all white Americans were native born.

Source:
-The Negro Population in U.S., 1790-1910,U.S. Census Bureau
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Therefore, Cracker Travel, since African Americans have been in this country longer than MOST WHITES, YOU GET THE PHUCC OUT!

Big Mac said...

"Anonymous said...
Does that include people like the transgendered woman who was beaten by several black girls/women who didn't like the fact that she used the women's bathroom? Which she had every right to do.

4:54 PM"


Nah, remember all the comments made here about that little "episode"? Especially by the wimmens here?

They were CERTAIN that he/she/it was talking smack to those African Princesses, so he/she/it deserved that beat-down.

Cracker Travel Agency said...

"Ms. Ann G. Myma said...
11:13 AM
Anonymous Cracker Travel Agency said..

So, take your mistreated selves back to Africa.

The evil whities won't stop you. Hell, we'll even pay your way.
------

In 1910, 99.2% of all Black Americans were native born and only 60% of all white Americans were native born.

Source:
-The Negro Population in U.S., 1790-1910,U.S. Census Bureau
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Therefore, Cracker Travel, since African Americans have been in this country longer than MOST WHITES, YOU GET THE PHUCC OUT!

4:58 PM"


That's too stupid, (on so many levels),to even rate a reply.

Torme said...

At this point in history, you have to be an incredibly stupid leftist to make moral equivalency arguments comparing Islam to Chrisitanity, or any other religion.

Islam is different. No other religion specifically sanctions violence against non-believers. No other religion specifies its own totalitarian political system. No other religion codifies the oppression of women or practices the death penalty for homosexuality.

Is it sinking in yet?

Islam is as incompatable with liberal values as Naziism.

We don't let Nazis move here. No more muslims in America.

Anonymous said...

mellaneous said...
Anon you still sound like a lunatic. A fringe group says something crazy and it represents all of them

Mell, Actually your the one who sounds like a lunatic. You cant' measure, don't see reality and twist connections in your mind as if you are a preteen. Entire nations are not fringe groups, the examples you list are from whackjobs, the eamples I list are from the mainstream of the country where they actually carry out those crazy words and live specifically by the rule of the koran.

YOu sound irrational and delusional and extremely crazy. Then of course add the obligatory, oh don't tell the truth it poisons the well. Jesus would bitch slap you for being a butcher leading them to slaughter, nothing, NOTHING is more evil and despicable then this for a man to deny the truth and then take others on his path to destruction with him.

uptownsteve said...

Anonymous,

"Does that include people like the transgendered woman who was beaten by several black girls/women who didn't like the fact that she used the women's bathroom? Which she had every right to do."

YES.

Anytime people are victimized and especially simply because of WHO they are then it is an injustice against humanity.

But why do I know that you don't give a crap about transgendered people and are just yapping because blacks attacked a white?

Jim Hoft said...

Barack Obama took 5 months, from August 2010 until January 2011, before he brought a team together to shape a plan to get Osama Bin Laden. This was after he knew in August the Bin Laden was hiding in the Abbottabad compound.

From Barack Obama’s interview with 60 Minutes, via Business Insider.

STEVE KROFT: When was that when you set that plan in motion?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, they first came to me in August of last year with evidence of the compound. And they said that they had more work to do on it, but at that point they had enough that they felt that it was appropriate for us to start doing some planning. And so from that point on we started looking at the time what our options might be.

The vigorous planning did not begin until early this year. And obviously over the last two months it’s been very intensive in which not only did an action plan get developed, but our guys actually started practicing being able to execute.

So Obama took 5 months before he put together a vigorous plan to kill or capture Bin Laden? It’s a good thing the state-run media is in the tank for this guy.

Honestly, with the nightly parties, balls and bashes, weekend “date night” traveling on Air Force One to the city of choice, non-stop daily fundraisers and campaign activities for 2012, and 70+ rounds of golf, where does one find time to make decisions?

uptownsteve said...

Mold,

"@Steve- that was a good question you put to LAA. Obvioulsy everyone isn't your enemy and if noone reaches out nothing happens and if nothing happens nothing changes."

On top of that, LAA seems to feel that blacks should adopt the attitudes of rightwing whites who want to suppress the rights of everyone who isn't like them.

Absurd.

uptownsteve said...

Sorry, that should have been Mellaneous.

field negro said...

"At this point in history, you have to be an incredibly stupid leftist to make moral equivalency arguments comparing Islam to Chrisitanity, or any other religion."

Why? You both believe in something that you can't prove. And you have both killed in the name of your religion.

Ms. Anne, thanks for the facts on those acts of terror.


"No one has ever hijacked or attempted to destroy a plane in the name of Jesus. Ever"

Another slappy lie!


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1212423/Religious-fanatic-hijacks-plane-en-route-Mexican-beach-resort-Cancun.html

Ms. Ann G. Myma said...

Your list of terrorist acts and attempted terrorist acts is irrelevant.
None of the acts were the work of a global religion, politcal doctrine, military with a 1,400-year history of violence.
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Oh please! Just stop it! You're making my head hurt!

It was St. Augustine (A.D. 354-430) that devise the plan to merge Christianity with warfare. Throughout the centuries it was encouraged by St.Thomas Aquinas and totally adopted by the Magisterium. It has been used to justify war since. Whether it was Christopher Columbus genocide of Native Peoples or the British Empire of conquering and thievery, it was all done in the name of the Christian God.

Furthermore, the so called War On Terror has it's cheerleaders from Christianity. They are paramount for the cause. As a matter of fact, alone with defense contractors, security firms, etc., Christians have made a lot of money from it. All one has to do, is turn on the Trinity Broadcasting Company. One will witness some of the most extreme views against Muslims that there is. Hal Lindsey, John Hagee, Ron Parsley, Rexella and Jack Van Impe are just a few. These nuts are also Christian Zionist. As you surely know, they have teamed up with the state of Israel. They have thrown their own religion under the bus to placate the foreign policy of Israel.

It's going to be a disaster of the biblical kind!

Ms. Ann G. Myma said...

Correction:

no_slappz said...
Your list of terrorist acts and attempted terrorist acts is irrelevant.
None of the acts were the work of a global religion, politcal doctrine, military with a 1,400-year history of violence
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The post at 6:24P.M. is a reply to Slappz.

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Ms. Ann G. Myma said...
RIGHT WING ACTS OF TERROR 2010

EXCERPT:

-- February 2010: An angry tax protester named Joseph Ray Stack flies an airplane into the building housing IRS offices in Austin, Texas. (Media are reluctant to label this one "domestic terrorism" too.)


This guy hated everyone from Bush to big labor.You are false in tryin' to claim this a "rightwing" attack.




-- March 2010: Seven militiamen from the Hutaree Militia in Michigan and Ohio are arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate local police officers with the intent of sparking a new civil war.

Only one member of the group from the Michigan was registered to vote.Care to guess wo the member voted for presidnt?Ill give you a hint--he's a Democrat.

Another false claim





-- March 2010: An anti-government extremist named John Patrick Bedell walks into the Pentagon and opens fire, wounding two officers before he is himself shot dead.


Bedell was a ....... wait for it....... a Democrat .



Another flase claim.

-- May 2010: A "sovereign citizen" from Georgia is arrested in Tennessee and charged with plotting the violent takeover of a local county courthouse.



Name please?

-- May 2010: A still-unidentified white man walks into a Jacksonville, Fla., mosque and sets it afire, simultaneously setting off a pipe bomb.


No name?




-- May 2010: Two "sovereign citizens" named Jerry and Joe Kane gun down two police officers who pull them over for a traffic violation, and then wound two more officers in a shootout in which both of them are eventually killed.


2 thugs who you have no proof of voting or any knowledge of politics are" rightwing" terrorist

Should we start listing the bloods and crips has leftwing terrorist groups?



-- July 2010: An agitated right-winger and convict named Byron Williams loads up on weapons and drives to the Bay Area intent on attacking the offices of the Tides Foundation and the ACLU, but is intercepted by state patrolmen and engages them in a shootout and armed standoff in which two officers and Williams are wounded.



No mention of his mental problems?






-- September 2010: A Concord, N.C., man is arrested and charged with plotting to blow up a North Carolina abortion clinic. The man, 26-year--old Justin Carl Moose, referred to himself as the "Christian counterpart to (Osama) bin Laden” in a taped undercover meeting with a federal informant.


Something that never happened is now a act of rightwing terrorism?

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/terror-arizona-just-another-isolated

4:21 PM



Your leftwing talking points are about has lame and kookie has you.


What about the leftwing acts of terrorism?

The ft. hood shooter.The bloods and crips? Ms-13?

Us rightwingers have along way to go to match the leftwing acts of terrorism that happen everyday in Amerkkka.

Nirrti said...

Ugh. I live in Memphis so I'm not surprised at all. This is the place where MLK was assassinated, after all.

We're so divided racial-wise that a downtown movie theater closed a few years back rather than put up with the influx of too many black people going there.

As for the two Muslim men, people are just going to say they shouldn't have been wearing Muslim garb on an airplane flight. But since when did it become illegal to be a Muslim?....no wait, I know the answer.

riverman said...

Nirrti said...
"We're so divided racial-wise that a downtown movie theater closed a few years back rather than put up with the influx of too many black people going there."

That's just common sense. Have you ever tried to watch a movie with a bunch of black people? It's impossible.

Eugene said...

Ms. Ann G. Myma is a White Feminist said...

"It was St. Augustine (A.D. 354-430) that devise the plan to merge Christianity with warfare."



You have got to be kidding. Aunt Jemima's idiocy is astounding.

She goes back 1,700 years to try to excuse the actions of the Islamic death cult that perpetrates thousands of terror attacks each year, every year, in the present.

Like now.

Jemima either can't discern between truth or nonsense or is purposefully spreading lies.

What's a white woman doing calling herself Aunt Jemima and lying to Black folk?

La♥audiobooks said...

Mell, I'm sophomoric? Let me ask you, is the stance that you're taking really about helping others, or is it really about sticking it to the white man?

If it's not that, it's likely just another pretentious tactic for certain blacks to gain more assimilation access to other non-black minority groups, and while guise under "we're just helping others". It may sound absurd, but history have proven this to be a sick self-hating pattern among some blacks. I have to run, but there is more to expound.


And Anony 9:39 am, don't forget to brush.

Don said...

It's strange reading these kinds of stories and immediately comparing such prejudice to the plight of black folks back when America had the audacity to force our ancestors into years and years and years of free labor.

Oh well.

At least the Muslims were given an apology.

WhiteWatch fan said...

slapper is a typical right wing liar. His "statistics" come from the same far right hate sites which claimed Iraq had WMD and that Iran was paning a nuclear attack on America in 2007.

Now here is the ultimate truth about terrorism. The vast majority of terrorists around the world are WHITE MALES from North America and Western Europe, 500 years and counting. Proof? Overwhelming empirical evidence!

911 was done by them to launch wars across Asia to steal more resources and set up more puppet regimes. They kill civilians everyday using jets, tanks and WMDs.

Check out whitewatch.info the site whites fear!