Tuesday, May 03, 2011

"Red meat"?

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"Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”says the Lord."~ Romans 12:19~



Well, yours and the people of A-merry-ca. They can avenge, too, right? At least I think they can. Osama bin Laden was a really bad guy, and he was responsible for the deaths of a lot of people. Truly evil. So when that SEAL split his wig I thought it was cool for us all to have a party. Now I am having second thoughts, because even though I am not too sure about you there big guy, I am thinking that maybe there is something to this revenge thing only being reserved for certain people.






I didn't lose a family member or a loved one on September 11th, and I suspect that the hundreds of thousands of people who were celebrating Sunday night didn't either. But yet, they took joy in knowing that the man who has made life so miserable for them (miserable being a relative term) over the past ten years will never live to see that long beard of his ever again.


Long lines at the airport. Parking spaces taken away to make room for security barriers. Background checks for $8 an hour jobs. Big Brother data banks that can access our personal records. This is all OBL's fault. Some of you would have pulled the trigger your damn selves for those inconveniences.


There is a reporter in my town- who I consider a friend- who thinks that the folks breaking out in cheers and chants of U.S.A.! U.S.A.! after hearing of OBL's death was a bit much:





"When I told my husband what I was planning to write, he offered a furrowed-brow warning.

"You may not want to go there."

Too late, honey.

See, while I may feel uneasy writing this, it's still not as bad as the uneasiness I felt hearing fans at the Phillies game break into a chant of "U.S.A.! U.S.A.!" after news broke of Osama bin Laden's killing the other night.

Our brave soldiers had taken down an elusive enemy - finally. They had won.

But somehow, the red-meat celebration that erupted at the game, outside the White House, and at Ground Zero left me feeling troubled.

Cheering death? Really?
[More of her article]



Yes Annette, really. "Red-meat" celebrations are reserved for terrorist, despots and serial killers. Although I don't remember us breaking out in such celebrations when Saddam had to jump with that rope around his neck. I guess we didn't think he was responsible for 911 after all. But, as is the case with so many other things, timing when you kill an evil doer is everything.



This couldn't have come at a better time for us here in A-merry-ca. The folks needed a little red-meat, they haven't been eating here in A-merry-ca like they are used to. A little OBL meat is all they needed. "Revenge is a dish best served cold", and these folks would have eaten that meat right out of the refrigerator.


But, take comfort Annette, you are not alone, there are others who feel just like you. Most of them hang on to the big guy's every word and pray to him every chance they get. They are called Christians.










*Pic from the New York Daily News.

218 comments:

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OG said...

Be careful what you wish for you just might get it. These people are just begging for a police state were you will need to show your papers to go into the mall. It is as AB said first they came for the other persons then they came for me.It is a funny thing that folks in the "MOST POWERFUL NATION IN THE WORLD" fall for any thing they hear on CNN, FOX ,MSNBC.

Anonymous said...

Real Christians would do well to look at the passage in Romans you cited REAL Christians would not find comfort in knowing a dead man and some of his family was killed aint it that two wrongs dont make a right? Jody was rite on the other thread there is no justice cheering that obl is dead aint gonna bring those 911 dead people back again this is all a morally disgusting mess REAL Christians need to stand up for the truth ...but jess another distraction a day in the life of an american

Anonymous said...

OG is troof they jess used that as a excuse to increase security measures AGAINST the American people not to protect us Duh!

Anonymous said...

gottdam austerity measures! and all in the name of security? but for that we already gave up our freedoms so security from what?

Anonymous said...

Mr. field, please correct the word "bug" in the last sentence of your post. Thank you for this post.

signed,
A Devout Christian

Plane Ideas said...

I found the festive mood also troubling...BTW I prefer if OBL was captured and due process was in play..I hate summary executions by the military in a republic a place called AMERICA

FN did the felony murder rule apply here since OBL was not in this planes on 9/11..

JC said...

Hi, I have been reading your blog for a while now. I never really comment on any blog, but I wanted to comment because I too found it troubling to see people cheering about this OBL. I didn't loose a loved one or family member on September 11th either, but to see people cheering on television was really disturbing to me. I understand he was an enemy, but if anything I think we should take a more reflective stance with this situation. If this is the red-meat that people want to eat, well then I just might become a vegetarian.

Anonymous said...

Field I thought you were vehemently against death sentences, and wars that killed people. Yet, you celebrated the taking of the life of OBL. Please explain.

OG said...

Hey this is just like Orwells Animal Farm. The only thing people know about OBL is what they have been told. He is the boogie man. I love this country but we are allowing rights to be taken away because of propaganda the same things our media are quick to accuse every other country that does not fall in lock step , are the offences that are happening here everyday.

Anonymous said...

I was not surprised at the celebrations in America. We keep denying that we are, and have been, a violent nation.

Somehow I can't believe OBL woke up one day and decided to hit the WTC in America for no reason at all. I remember Americans wanting to know "why" OBL hated us. Americans started buying books to read about Islam and history of the Middle East. That lasted for about 2 weeks. As usual, the American attention span about anything is very short.

OG said...

CAN you say "Mark Of The Beast , that is exactly were were are heading.

Plane Ideas said...

FN,

Please explain your premise here given your principles after yoy answered that query

How is the execution of a human being by a military appropriate in a republic like ours?

Are you know out in the streets cheerleading and waving a flag? Are you a situational patriot now??

Anonymous said...

Field, ""Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”says the Lord."~ Romans 12:19~ "

I am beginning to think that deep down inside you actually believe! That is good. I bet you are discovering that it is easier to believe than not.

La♥audiobooks said...

When I saw the heading of that "Daily News" yesterday, I was disturbed. I mean, "Rot in Hell"?

Believe me, I do feel the same way, and I hope the hundred wide eyed virgin demons in hell are enjoying Osama as I type. However, one has to admit that maybe the NYtimes editors lacked a little professional decorum even under these circumstances.

Just my opinion...

Plane Ideas said...

As an American who values due process and presumption of innocence and the rejection of 9/11 as just a terrorist narrative instead of a criminal event. I would have preferred Osama's capture instead of a summary judgment of death by our arm forces

Anonymous said...

OBL gave the Goobers the excuses they needed for shock doctrine policies. Things like bushWar for most of those kid's lives. No jobs. Union-busting. Torturing folks for the joy of torturing. TSA being a parking lot for political hacks. Faith-based scams. Even greater deregulation.
OH...and the religious heroic bravery of manfully sending others to do the work...while OBL stayed home like a Chickenhawk...only decamping when the soldiers arrived. All those millions, all those fellow Troo Beleevers...counted as nothing when the Democratic government came to call.
Ain't no place to hide....

Mold

Plane Ideas said...

LAV,

So what is your opinion then..You are riding a fence it appears???

field negro said...

"Mr. field, please correct the word "bug" in the last sentence of your post. Thank you for this post.

No disrespect meant DC, that should have been big not bug.
Hey, it's been a rough day on the plantation. Thanks for pointing it out.


"I am beginning to think that deep down inside you actually believe! That is good. I bet you are discovering that it is easier to believe than not."

Hmmm, no. But pray for me.:)

"Field I thought you were vehemently against death sentences, and wars that killed people. Yet, you celebrated the taking of the life of OBL. Please explain."

Anon & Thrasher, didn't you read my post? I am a tortured soul.

field negro said...

Personally, I would have preferred a capture. A trial at The Hague, but I know that here in A-merry-ca that is blasphemy these days.

Plane Ideas said...

FN,

So am I but I have principles despite my tortured soul..

Again from your vantage point of being a tortured soul YOU feel that it is ok for a republic to have it's military engaged in summary execution??

Anonymous said...

NYC and DC were targets and had casualties...unlike many of the flag-wrapped areas of 'patriots' who suffered only the loss of TV viewing.
Even J Stewart, normally an even-keeled person, took the act of terrorism upon his fellow urban neighbours...very personally.
Trial would have been nice. If you recall, not all the Nazis went to prison. And more than a few escaped justice.
Is this worry over the national psyche....or attempts to smear actual accomplishment?

Mold

Plane Ideas said...

FN,

So now you are walking back your commentary..

Are your priciples situational and relative??

FN so now you are driven by the whims of the popular thought??

Anonymous said...

Too often beleef means shutting down the capacity for Reason, the Intellect that many prize, and elimination of Logic.
Given that scenario...having beleef is tantamount to an admission of mental defect.

Mold

field negro said...

Thrasher read my comments. I am against the death penalty.

Was he a military combatant? I don't think so, but others will make that argument and thus justify the way he was killed.

field negro said...

Thrasher do you read comments when they are posted or do you just have a script that you want to follow?

"PERSONALLY I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED A CAPTURE. A TRIAL AT THE HAGUE"

Anonymous said...

Why so eager to 'nail' FN on this? The comments are consistent...and coherent. Unless only has a need to 'score' one for the 'team'. Then it is more about POL (Pissing Off Liberals)...and lying is such a part of that. Not to mention placing false claims next to the comments of Liberals...and faking they indeed are as infinitely flexible as those who 'lie fer Jesus'.
Why yes, a police officer arresting the local wite serial murdering coward has EXACTLY the ability as does a Navy SEAL doing a combat evolution upon foreign soil next to a military base, thousands of potential soldiers, and a 30 minute window for execution. Simple, much?

Mold

Plane Ideas said...

FN,

I don't know what you are against FN really in light of your recent comments..

You claim to against the death penalty yet you apparently support this summary execution by our military without an due process extended to the deceased...

I am posing the question not others..At least under the criminal justice system I could understand a felony murder charge..

Cleary OBL was not in the 9/11 planes but aside from this issue again Please explain for political posturing tonite..Your waivering is troublesome for me since despite our past I have much respect for you and your body of work...I noticed the same conflicted reasoning in your support for Israel

Plane Ideas said...

FN,

I have your comments you are all over the page tonite..

Just address my comments..What is your views in light of your fuzzy posts??

Anonymous said...

thrasher, why this game of 'gotcha'? Are you feeling the pain of Goobers, wingnuts and certain MSM pretties...that bush could not get OBL...but Obama did?
Is this a deliberate ignorance? Or do you lack the ability to read the quite clear posts and discern from them the meaning?
It is almost an obtuseness designed to be more obnoxious than enlightening. As if your anger over the failures of bush to do his job was markedly contrasted by the success of a community organizer.
But, don't let me distract you from the task of reading FN's posts on the death penalty and the elimination of OBL. Why, that might be even like work! Or tiresome! Or something that the smart kids do for those exams.
Hint...read his posts.

Mold

SouthParkConservatives said...

Thrasher said...
FN,

I don't know what you are against FN really in light of your recent comments..

You claim to against the death penalty yet you apparently support this summary execution by our military without an due process extended to the deceased...



Awwwwwww Liberals and their double standards.

Liberals are fakes and fruads that will throw away what they claim to believe in when its their guy doing the deed.

Anonymous said...

FN, must be the 'marching orders' from the wingnut Masters are to pick fights with each not-wingnut blogger they can find.
How utterly obsequious. And where is their bravery when we ask if they will enlist?

Mold

Plane Ideas said...

Mold,

I just want clarity from FN his comments do not reflect it..He has already walked backed the theme of his post..My questions at least made him tell us he would have preferred a OBL would have been captured!!!!

I am not a cheerleader and Please READ MY POSTS!!

Anonymous said...

SPC, try again. You are projecting IOKIYAR. Lying like that only works when the audience is unaware that you are the liar. And they are finding out...McDaniels, LePage, Scott, Walker, Snyder, Corbett...not forget the entire coterie of bushmoles and bush appointees...and our sales force of st reagan.
Better find a new set of lies. These are known.

Mold

Plane Ideas said...

Mold,

Cleary FN defensive retorts to my post have confirmed I was right about his conflicting comments tonite( Notice his CAPS in one of his retorts to me)

I come here to be elevated by FN and others..I don't come here having to educate FN or cheerleaders live you..

In any event I now know I have impacted FN and gave him reason to questions his principles..That is what friends are suppose to be not kiss ass but make a difference..

Enjoy the eveing..Go Lakers!!!!

Anonymous said...

Thrasher, he did. Perhaps you should Google 'The Hague'?
You can't stand in the dock...if you are dead.
Oh, many wingnuts have already been there and found guilty of wingnut activities.
So, it would follow that if FN wants OBL to be there...it would mean a trial, of a living being, by an international jurisprudence, in full view.

Mold

SouthParkConservatives said...
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Anonymous said...

Umm...more like you tried to pretend...got served...and went away.
As far as educate FN...could you explain your credentials for making such a grandiose claim? Are you a full professor? Do you have equivalent experience in a certain field? Or are you just wishing that you could have the letters that signify many years of labour?
Your 'impact' is to try to muddy the water...and it FAIL.
Ummm...even my shrunken, elderly brain that seems to be hand-cranked in a Digital Age...could comprehend his statements. Must be a 'literate thing'.

Mold

Plane Ideas said...

Mold,

Spare me your envy ... I compelled FN to walk back his fuzzy commentary now at least we know he wanted OBL captured that fact was not present in his vague commentary..

FN was caught up in the glow of mob rule.. I expected better and Yes I am disappointed..

Your cheerleading and genuflecting for FN is noble but changes nothing..Get off your knees and have your own principes

La♥audiobooks said...

"LAV,

So what is your opinion then..You are riding a fence it appears???
"

Thrasher, riding the fence about what? What on earth are you trying to prove?

Did Mr. Johnnie Walker pay you a visit a this evening?

La♥audiobooks said...

Ok, time for me to go to bed. I'm seeing the signs.

Plane Ideas said...

LAV,

Good idea...Gotta being tiring riding the fence

LACoincidental said...

Field, I personally think that the celebration of Osama bin Laden's death was a tad bit ridiculous, if not outright disgusting. But, its not totally unexpected or to some degree, unwarranted. Osama bin Laden was our Emanuel Goldstein, the ever present Boogie Man who haunted American nightmares for 10 years. And Obama vanquished the dragon. And we don't except Americans, in desperate need for heroes not to celebrate?


However, I am with you and Thrasher (yes, Thrasher, I agree with you, so please don't start flaming me.) that we would be better served to have bin Laden taken to trial. (Though I honestly don't see a dude like Osama coming quitely to the Hague.)

But again, that requires a spirit of peace and an intellectually capacity for nuance, reflection and understanding of one's enemies - qualities absent in the 2011 Imperialist American Psyche.

field negro said...

"SPC, try again"

Mold, please don't tell him to do that, his head might explode.

I think I am going to start a blog that explains how to read this one.

La~Audio, what do they ("the signs") look like? I think I am seeing them as well.

SPC said...

You have to excuse the confusion and retardation that FN and other Liberals have shown these last 2 days.


They know they are required to cheer their messiah when he has success.

They are to change their minds when the messiah tells them to.{Yesterday Gen.Betrayus,Sanchez,and Mccrystal were liars and war criminals.Now they are heros to Liberals.}

But cheering this success means cheering for things that they have preached against.


After being called out for the fruads Liberals are, they are now having to back track and pretend they really wasn't cheering what Obama did.Now they feel,well,bad.


Their bleeding hearts bleed faster........

SPC said...

Anonymous said...
Umm...more like you tried to pretend...got served...and went away.
As far as educate FN...could you explain your credentials for making such a grandiose claim?
----------------------------------


Sure he can.Soon has you explain your credentials for making grandiose claims.







Are you a full professor? Do you have equivalent experience in a certain field? Or are you just wishing that you could have the letters that signify many years of labour?

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Who are you to ask those questions when you fail to provide answers instead of making more false claims?---------------------------------------------------------------



Must be a 'literate thing'.

Mold

Must be, because you don't understand.

Plane Ideas said...

FN,

Perhaps you should also take a class on how to write a concise commentary..

Your latest post again confirms I was right about your lack of clarity and of more importance How I made YOU walk back your marginal mob rule cheerleading tonite and admit to all that you perfer OBL's capture instead of summary execution by ur military...

At least you can thank me for making you act right tonite...lol,lol,lol

field negro said...

"Perhaps you should also take a class on how to write a concise commentary.."

Now why would I need do that when you are here reading what I wrote?

Anonymous said...

Field, "Personally, I would have preferred a capture. A trial at The Hague, but I know that here in A-merry-ca that is blasphemy these days."

Yes, I KNOW you 'believe.' You are being transformed. It is beautiful. Keep walking.

thommie said...

I find this whole thing troubling too. It seems that, like usual, Obama is at his best when he is denigrating black people. In fact, every since he went big-time, this "brother" has been throwing black people under the bus left and right. You could start with Rev. Wright, then he didn't want to be associated with Tavis and black talk. He went to the NAACP Dinner and every other Black Gala and told Black people to get a job and take care of their children. He even through his own father under the bus. When he got in office the first thing he did after telling blacks to get a job was give the order to shoot two Somalians. Then there was Shirley Sherrod, Van Jones, Saddam and now another Black man. How can we really tell the black men in our neighborhoods to stop killing each other when we celebrate one black man ordering the murder of another.

field negro said...

"You have to excuse the confusion and retardation that FN and other Liberals have shown these last 2 days.


They know they are required to cheer their messiah when he has success."



Now you know that's not true. The only people going bat s^%$ over the last two days are wingnuts like you.

First the beige man shows you his birth certificate and then he kills someone your incompetent leader chased and couldn't find for eight years.

And you say liberals are confused and retarded?

debator said...

Field I must take issue with this post.
I am still shocked by the ignorance of our population.....10 years ago when 3 thousand of our countrymen died in the towers the we saw people celebrating the death and it sickened us. How could they hate us so much that they applaud the deaths of people they did not even know? A few nights ago we repeated their actions with unadulterated joy at the death of a man that has not been tried,admitted(in any video/document that wasn't sanitized by our government)or found guilty of the crime we believe he committed. Yet field you say that he is to blame for our inconveniences and all of human rights violations that have occurred over the past 10 years. But would not the blame fall on our governent? the government that has owned up to the fact that they lied to us numerous times regarding the 9/11 attacks and the War in Iraq. And if they lied to us about the simple things....could it not be conceivable that they would lie about the larger things? Like who ACTUALLY KILLED THOSE PEOPLE? For us to celebrate his death with no evidence is reminiscent of the lynch mobs that cheer the death of a black man for an un-proven crime. Are we not the lynch-mob now field?

Plane Ideas said...

FN,

Because why should I the reader have to decipher your vague efforts??

I expect better plus this is tiresome I could be watching Memphis yet I got to deal with your rants..

Your commentary was wrong and I made you walk back your situational ethics...Have the courage to deal with this truth..I still luv ya.. You still my island negro....lol,lol,lol

Anonymous said...

debator you are on target. thanks

field negro said...

"Yes, I KNOW you 'believe.' You are being transformed. It is beautiful. Keep walking."

Transformed to what?

And when you say "it is beautiful", are you referring to my ass? I can't shake the feeling that you are walking behind me.

Plane Ideas said...

FN,

Yet despite your less than stellar performance tonite... I still respect you and at least you did walk back your flawed commentary..

I respect that..

Enjoy the evening....I shall return maybe next week

LACoincidental said...

debator - You're right, our government is the true culprit for the quelching of civil liberties. But, I would argue bin Laden was a catalyst for our current police state and not the cause. If people weren't scared little lemming that the big scary Muslim man was going to kill them with a box cutter and gasoline, the Patriot ACT may not have existed, as people make clear decisions when they're not utterly terrified.

No bin Laden (or someone like him) no scared Americans and no terrified lemming like Congress to blindly follow Bush. If bin Laden didn't exist, we would have to make him up.

La♥audiobooks said...

Don't take it personal Field, that's what you get for winning those blog awards. Every now and again a certain person wants to borrow traffic for their little tv shows on the internet.

field negro said...

debator, you made some good points.
I can't argue with a lot of the things you said. But I disagree with you with this statement:

"....could it not be conceivable that they would lie about the larger things? Like who ACTUALLY KILLED THOSE PEOPLE?"

No, it's not. Those 19 hijackers killed those people. Folks who say that 911 was an inside job are no different than the wingnut birthers who say that Obama wasn't born here.

LACoincidental said...

No, it's not. Those 19 hijackers killed those people. Folks who say that 911 was an inside job are no different than the wingnut birthers who say that Obama wasn't born here.

No more needs to be said, Field. As a liberal, I get annoyed with Truthers more so than Birthers - because they hijack the real argument against war and empire with their cracked out conspiracies.

Accepting reality - 19 brown dudes with Home Depot surplus equipment shook the great American Empire. Nah, couldn't be....must be some sort of Ocean's 11 double cross. Silliness.

A Birther is simply a fancy media buzzword for bigot.

OK, rant over.

field negro said...

"Every now and again a certain person wants to borrow traffic for their little tv shows on the internet."

Is that what it is? Now my feelings are hurt. And here I thought the guy really liked me.:(

Chabad said...

Thrasher said...
Again from your vantage point of being a tortured soul YOU feel that it is ok for a republic to have it's military engaged in summary execution??

Yes, he was the enemy of America and Israel and now he is in hell.

debator said...

LACoincidental- but hasn't our government created catalyst in the past to stir up fear among the people? I would argue that because people do make clear decisions when they aren't terrified is the perfect reason why a government would do all in its power to make sure that the people were never THINKING CLEARLY. We consume.....and we fear. terrorism....and the ipad2. they are one in the same...a reason to make sure that people are always distracted by something.

Field with all due respect....you are saying that the blatant inconsistencies with 911 i.e. (the hole in the pentagon was not even half the size of a true 747 passenger plane.....eyewitnesses testify that the planes looked NOTHING like commerfical airliners....and the utter SMOOTHNESS in which Lockheed-martin, halibuton, Generalelectric etc were all in prime positions to make amounts of money through war that can only be rivaled when compared to WWII? Field....I acknowledge the death of those people, but I refuse to listen to proven liars about what happened.Wouldn't that be foolish on my part? Wouldn 't it be more prudent to use our analytical minds and ask questions? and if things do add up, dispell the bull that we have been fed and look at the situation objectively?

Plane Ideas said...

Lav,

I thought you went to sleep..BTW My TV show is #1 in the county just saying..

FN I do really like you...You are my island negro... It is ok to thank a brother now and then..lol,lol,lo

Plane Ideas said...

Chabad,

I thought he was in heaven with virgins??

Please spare me your hate and contempt for our nation's consitution..

Just becuase you accept mob rule and summary execution by our military does not mean I have to..

debator said...

and outside of this..
Those 19 hijackers killed those people
.....
what else do u have the points without question to the person who's death you qualified and celebrated? It may not just be birther's who come up with half-cocked baseless notions...huh.

Anonymous said...

anon, "Yes, I KNOW you 'believe.' You are being transformed. It is beautiful. Keep walking."

Field replied, "Transformed to what?

And when you say "it is beautiful", are you referring to my ass? I can't shake the feeling that you are walking behind me."

LOL. You have me laughing. You are being "transformed" to a better more openminded person. The beauty is your changing soul, opening to peace and wisdom of a Higher Power.

But don't worry about it-just walk on Field, walk on...

Anonymous said...

debator eye echo ur sentiments exactly they give us a dangling treat to appease our greater sensibilities as eye said after the first comment, for a nation of those supposedly influenced by the teachings of Christ and MLK and Gandhi for that matter, you wouldn't be able to tell at all! All these muphukkers gathering and celebratin cuz this man is dead shit he prolly been dead for years and since his family is billionaires died in the lap of luxury

americans are such an impressionable and silly bunch (myself included) cuz if our blinders were off wede judge the president by his actions and not his words and wede realize that all of this has been one big sham to divide and conquer our consciousness meanwhile taking true attention away from the insolvency of our nation

Anonymous said...

field, "And when you say "it is beautiful", are you referring to my ass? I can't shake the feeling that you are walking behind me."

You should go see "Insidious"

Tsaw miah a djeh coo tay said...

Wow!!! Figured i would check fn out before bed.Never thought i would be treated to some blue on blue violence.

Thrasher is about 10 miles left of FN.Thrasher ask some legit questions,and out of nowhere comes mold attacking and degrading Thrasher.


Does mold not know Thrasher hates whitey about has much has she does?

Mold should check out Thrashers' blog.Post there maybe.Y'all would have a gay ol' time.

Anonymous said...

We, the entire human race have been warring and killing each other for as long as we have been here.
I would like to quote what Mr.Collier wrote today in his blog Acting White, Acting Black,
http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2011/05/white-violence-navy-seals-and-death-of.html

"We should know this about the killing, it cannot stop. It will not stop. Us or them. Them or us. Our planet is getting smaller with each smartphone. The human infestation continues, with a competition for dominion increasing from the leading to trailing edges of global society. It is happening in places like Kenya, and Tibet, New York, and New Zealand - by governments and street-thugs alike. I guess this is progress, to somebody."

This is true. Let us not delude ourselves. We are/have always been a violent, warring lot. All of us,no exceptions. Yes, we will rejoice in killing. And to a lesser or greater degree, given the right circumstances, we all hunger for "red meat" for blood, unfortunately....

Anonymous said...

thrasher is a stoopid piece of shit most of the time but like mellanus sometimes they got shit to say in this case celebrating the bloodshed of a dead man who we really don't know did shit on 911 is pure ridiculousness

as to lac cmon man u can think a little bit deeper than those vapid words u said a few comments ago obl was not a catalyst for our current police state this shit was building for a while yet in fact 911 was used as a catalyst by the government to clamp down on the sovreignty of american citizens if u open ur mind to see that in prior administrations our rights were being stripped ude see that obl is truly a non issue that has been made into an anti hero someone that pisses off americans enough that we actually will stop critisizing our phukked up leadership for a second anyway..

O'Bliden said...

debator said...
"and outside of this..
Those 19 hijackers killed those people
.....
what else do u have the points without question to the person who's death you qualified and celebrated? It may not just be birther's who come up with half-cocked baseless notions...huh."


I agree....truthers are the craziest. Now that bin Laden is dead, we know Al Queda, with Saddams help, was responsible for 911, and this bullshit is done. His blood guarentees peace.

Anonymous said...

thrasher is a stoopid piece of shit most of the time but like mellanus sometimes they got shit to say in this case celebrating the bloodshed of a dead man who we really don't know did shit on 911 is pure ridiculousness

as to lac cmon man u can think a little bit deeper than those vapid words u said a few comments ago obl was not a catalyst for our current police state this shit was building for a while yet in fact 911 was used as a catalyst by the government to clamp down on the sovreignty of american citizens if u open ur mind to see that in prior administrations our rights were being stripped ude see that obl is truly a non issue that has been made into an anti hero someone that pisses off americans enough that we actually will stop critisizing our phukked up leadership for a second anyway..


If there was any doubt the vulgar anon is MOLD, here you go...proof.

MOld your a degenerate little scumbag, dry up and go away with this shit.

Gravy said...

Feminism was never about fairness or equality. Feminism was and is about power and control.

What do feminist teachers call boys who complete high school and are accepted into college? Damn Survivors. Education in America is stealthy designed to discourage boys from learning and achievement. What do feminist teachers call African American boys who complete high school and are accepted into college? Goddamn Survivors. White feminists in ivory towers have a peculiar hatred of African America boys. What do feminist teachers call effective educational spending for African American boys: build more prisons.

rainywalker said...

We humans are nothing short of violence and distruction. The God of the old Testament should cook us all down like the Levites. Osama bin Laden is already cooking.

Anonymous said...

rainywalker, you are absolutely right. As far as our country is concerned, we ARE a violent nation.

I still don't understand why bin laden was shot dead and why he was buried out to sea. It seems very odd and quite suspicious to me.

Anonymous said...

of course its suspicious cuz its a gottdam lie those with open eyes see through the bullshit duh!

Ms. Bunny Easter said...

Gravy said...
What do feminist teachers call boys who complete high school and are accepted into college? Damn Survivors

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Why, you little chauvinistic, racist dog! Define feminist? I'll bet you don't even know what a feminist is. You lifted this nonsense from Spearhead.Com. It's allegedly a pro-male website. In reality, it's right-wing, misogynistic, and I think, racist, Bullshyte. The article was written by somebody calling himself Zorror. Obviously, he was too much of a mouse, not man, to put his real name on it. The article was called, the Feminist Rape of Little Boys. It is pure, unadulterated trash.

As far as white feminists are concern, please produce a book, article or link that exhibits disdain for African American boys- or men. I'd love to see it. I do know however, they've got the white male defined. Especially the sexist-racist kind like you.

Ernesto said...

The whole story is fishy, no pun intended. The thing about him using a woman as a human shield is straight outta the "Black Ops" video game. Someone took some serious artistic license with that crap. Yes, it seems that one thing we can always count on is our government, especially our military, spouting 95 percent bullshit in everything they say. You have to dig through the bullshit to get to the 5 percent truth. I have already heard about a dozen revisions today to the story they told yesterday. Did he shoot back? Yes...errr no...err maybe. WTF?

We must never forget that Bin Laden was a made man in the CIA mafia, that only fell out of favor (maybe) circa 1992. It's pretty amazing that he lived 100 yards from the Pakistani version of West Point.

And the burial at sea, in accordance with Muslim tradition...that has to be the punch line to the joke. They give him the Fred Hampton treatment then they are careful to observe all religious customs followed by the classic mafioso "sleeps with the fishes" ending. It was rather fitting, as he had been part of our Black ops famiglia back in the day.

Clifton B said...

Field:

I am not too sure the celebratory mood was 100% because we killed Osama. I think part of it might be a reaction to the fact that America has finally had an accomplishment.

Let's face it, things have been spinning out of control starting with the financial meltdown of 2007. Since then it has been one piece of disappointing news after another. e.g. jobless recovery, a new war, escalating debt and yes, a new president who has not lived up to the sales pitch.

I think we would have seen the same chanting if Osama was captured alive and brought to justice, because Americans are hungry for some good old fashion success.

mellaneous said...

Good post Field I too was wondering what you were really thinking. Glad yo came out with it, you are a role model you know:)

Hey check out my story about what happened when I tried to play my Osama card yesterday.

I wrote an essay about,want to read it, here it is:www.dredscottsghost.com

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Well...I guess I'll give my two cents worth on the topic.

It doesn't make a difference if their your enemy or not, we really shouldn't gloat over anyone's death. I'm inclined to agree with Clifton, I don't think it was so much a celebration of his death as it was the fact that Americans are tired of the war and for a lot of Americans they're hoping this will end it and they just got carried away and caught up in the moment. After all, that was what was supposedly the cause of it in the first place. At least that's what our government told us. That it was to go after OBL.

Nevertheless, if you ask me, we have a sorta war going on right here amongst ourselves. We're living in a war zone without weapons being fired or bombs being dropped. Nope, instead technology is the weapon being used to spread false rumors and slander. It's a political war between the haves and havenots.

While reading some of the prior post, a game played at women's baby showers came to me. In the game, the first woman is handed a piece of paper with a message on it and she whispers in the woman next to her ear that message and that woman repeats the message to the woman sitting next to her. The message is repeated until the last woman in the group hears it, and she is the one repeats the message out loud. It never fails, that message is never what was said in the beginning of the game. You wouldn't believe how a message could get twisted, turn upside down, topsy turvy, parts missing, a lot added, but it happens each and every time. So, I am not surprise at the aftermath of the events that have taken place in the last couple of days.

Nevertheless, I will never forget what Ben Laden said on one of those tapes back when Bush was in office. "He said that Bush was lying to us" during the Bush and Kerry's elections and for some reason I felt in my spirit that the man was being sincere and straight up. Right after that, Bush wasn't interested in pursuing OBL no more. I thought that was strange too. It just didn't sit right with me.

Now, granny is going back to her dugout and get out the way of all the chairs and bottles being thrown across the room at different folks up in here.

Anonymous said...

Wow Mellaneous. that blog and the article you wrote are the best I've seen yet. As a matter of fact, you make Field's posts look like kindergarten stuff. You are leagues above him and his blog. I bet your blog wins the next award over FN. I mean, it deserves it. and the commenters are ten times more intelligent than the ones here. of course, it doesn't take much to outdo the likes of uts, desertsand, mack lyons, dr queen with 50 degrees, slappz and 'the kid from cleveland. oh i forgot the rottenkid from richmond...yeah, they turn out some doozies in Virginia.

keep pushing bro you are right on Field's ass. I know he can feel your breath on the back of his neck. Yeah, he's sweating and this comment ought to wake his ass up on Wednesday.

I swear, this Jamaican brew my buddy has cooked up is some wicked shit. I WAS sailing to PR to see desertfox but I don't know where the fuck I am now...I must be somewhere on the water- around VIs, so I must be close to PR or Jamaica or, wtf.... Somebody call the coast guard.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

One more thing, when they found that American money that was hidden in suitcases over in Iraq, we never did find out what happened to it. Nor have we ever found out what Halliburton did with that unaccounted for misplaced money. That was an awful lot of money to come up missing. No one in their right mind is going to misplace that amount of money, especially greedy folks.

Anonymous said...

Granny and Clifton, you two are the kind of Americans that compensate for the outrageous wrong dumb shit we do.

It's precisely this kind of arrogant behavior that the rest of the world can't stand our asses. And quite frankly, neither can I. And I am confident that there are a few million more who can't stand stupid money grubbing Americans.

It's disgusting.

Anonymous said...

granny, that money was left there for the Iraqis.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Anonymous 2:56:

You don't know what kind of American I am because you don't know me personally.

I'm being honest, not excusing their behavior as you say. In my honest opinion, I don't think anyone should have been celebrating, but in my lifetime I've learned that people do strange things at times.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

That money was for the Iraqis, huh? LOL! I wonder how many luxurious resorts have been built on a remote side of Iraq for the rich because that's a pattern that goes along with colonialization.

Here's a good example of how colonization works. Make sure you watch the whole film.

http://www.farfilm.com/web/title_tp.htm

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Sorry, I thought that was the complete short video, but it's not, so you won't get to see what I was referring to as an example.

Ms. Bunny Easter said...

No, it's not. Those 19 hijackers killed those people. Folks who say that 911 was an inside job are no different than the wingnut birthers who say that Obama wasn't born here.
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Sorry Field, I love you but I have to disagree. I'm certainly not a Truther, but, there are scientific facts about 9-11 that just don't add up.

Whether it was Operation Northwood, the assassinations of the 1960's, Vietnam, the numerous invasions of other developing nations- to the current wars, we haven't been told the truth about any of it.

I believe 50 years of unchecked, unbridled criminality on the part of our government is exactly why we are in the mess we are today.

The American People deserve an investigation of 9-11.

Ms. Bunny Easter said...

GO GRANNY STANDING FOR TRUTH!
IT'S WONDERFUL THAT YOU ARE BACK!

field negro said...

"I still don't understand why bin laden was shot dead and why he was buried out to sea. It seems very odd and quite suspicious to me."

Here we go.

Sup Granny? I co-sign with Ms. Ann. Nice to read your posts again.

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Dr. Nuwang said...

I figured out a LONG time ago that the ONLY place being a black woman and having multiple degrees would be "acceptable" would be on a site frequented by other highly successful and/or educated Blacks, and Asians.

The fact that it comically pointed out my achievements specifically tells me it's either poor white trash or a stupid n*gga'. And since I don't associate with either of those type folks in my real life, I'm satisfied with it crawling back under the rock from where it came.

And speaking of Asians, I'm meeting with one later this morning to discuss my next research project. But I guess the fact that this woman is Asian comes as no surprise to other highly successful and/or educated Blacks, and Asians.

no_slappz said...

og wrote:

Hey this is just like Orwells Animal Farm. The only thing people know about OBL is what they have been told.

First, the Orwell novel was "1984".

Second, the media in the US is free to present anything and everything. It is not controlled by the government as it was in the fictional story of "1984."

Third, bin Laden is/was the person portrayed in the media. It's rather easy to confirm the fact that he was a recognized figure -- admired or not -- by virtually all the world's 1.3 billion muslims.

Anonymous said...

Hmmm...pointing out the obvious...is being a sycophant?
Since when did Liberals worship the generals? Oh, that is a Lie. You made it up (or, much more likely, are repeating one).
How long ago was the wingnut Wurlitzer telling us bush was daMan? Wasn't the whole sell based on the inability of 'that One' to perform? Oh wait, he did.
Nice to see you follow your Master's orders.
Wingnuts remind of the manly heroic bravery exemplified in the noxious callow youth who continually asked about the health of a schoolteacher's spouse stricken by cancer. The point was not to inquire about the well-being of the spouse...but to be an utter coward jerkhole to the teacher.
Funny lad had to move far, far away. While he...and his buddies...all thoughterate this was glorious fun, we knew his heroic manly bravery for the 'cause' was simple jerkwad behavior. He was cautioned. Pretty much told folks he could do this.
Yes, pretty much the same fake responses you see here. As if the world revolved around the petty and mean-spirited wingnut.

Mold

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no_slappz said...

thrasher and annette john-hall wrote:

As an American who values due process and presumption of innocence and the rejection of 9/11 as just a terrorist narrative instead of a criminal event...

...Which eliminated bin Laden's right to a fair trial, but I won't go there.


What? Fair Trial? You mean you believe the US Constitution and American Jurisprudence can be projected upon a person who has never been on American soil, who lives in a sovereign nation but who has nevertheless organized acts of war against the US and several other nations?

Due Process? Do you have any idea what that phrase means?

On what authority would the US conduct an investigation of bin Laden, who, in the course of his career as a terrorist, lived in Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Afghanistan and Pakistan?

Do you suppose the US has some power to compel witnesses -- such as al-Qaeda sympathizers -- to come to the US to testify?

Can Eric Holder issue search warrants that Pakistan must honor?

What would Obama say to the thugs who run Pakistan? Would he demand they comply with the search warrant or face a US military attack?

thrasher and annette are two among millions who live in the black alternate reality.

Anonymous said...

After watching the frantic attempts to clean up the bush reputation by MSM pretties...I can't help but wonder.
Rachael Maddow alluded to this odd need on the part of some to paint bush as the hero...the cause of the event. Much like the constant drumbeat for the st reagan poo polishing after the mighty, mighty salesman made deficits...and someone else fixed the problem.
Must be the magical thinkerating. IOKIYAR.

Mold

Anonymous said...

Slappy, there are international courts. Perhaps Field could post them again?

SPC, you still need that stalk, eh? When one makes Appeal to Authority...or tells me they will 'educate' me...I do wonder about the basis of such claims. From experience...those who use such terms are less educated, less experienced, and without merit.
As far as my claims...feel free to show the error. Or just whine that you can't bully an old lady. ;)

Mold

uptownsteve said...

SPC

"You claim to against the death penalty yet you apparently support this summary execution by our military without an due process extended to the deceased...

Awwwwwww Liberals and their double standards."

Talk about double standards?

Is the racist armchair cowboy SPC now wishing for due process for Bin Laden who was responsible for at least 3,000 American murders?

Or is he just angry that the black Commander in Chief engineered his assassination and not the fake warrior Bush?

Anonymous said...

I figured out a LONG time ago that the ONLY place being a black woman and having multiple degrees would be "acceptable" would be on a site frequented by other highly successful and/or educated Blacks, and Asians.

The fact that it comically pointed out my achievements specifically tells me it's either poor white trash or a stupid n*gga'. And since I don't associate with either of those type folks in my real life, I'm satisfied with it crawling back under the rock from where it came.

And speaking of Asians, I'm meeting with one later this morning to discuss my next research project. But I guess the fact that this woman is Asian comes as no surprise to other highly successful and/or educated Blacks, and Asians.

7:41 AM


THIS IS MOLD. WHat in the hell does "your degrees" and your seeking acceptance (beelevaration) of what you post in a blog, have to do with Bin Laden at all?

MOLD NICE PERSONA YOU FRUITCAKE!!!!

Who cares how many fake degrees you make up, your still a moron who can barely change his own depends and tie your own shoelaces

GET A LIFE!!!!!

no_slappz said...

field writes:

Red-meat" celebrations are reserved for terrorist, despots and serial killers.

Really? For example? Anyone other than bin Laden?

As always, field, you deliver unfounded statements for which there are no supporting facts. Even you admit it.

Although I don't remember us breaking out in such celebrations when Saddam had to jump with that rope around his neck.

I guess we didn't think he was responsible for 911 after all.

No US leader ever said Saddam Hussein was "Responsible" for 9/11. Never happened. It was said that Saddam was complicit. It was said and confirmed that al-Qaeda had a presence in Iraq.

Now that it's plain for everyone in the world to see that the leaders of Pakistan were protecting bin Laden, it should strain no one's credulity to see that Saddam was also sympathetic to the al-Qaeda cause and helpful in his own way.

The folks needed a little red-meat, they haven't been eating here in A-merry-ca like they are used to.

"They". I see. Field presents himself as someone who is not part of the "they" crowd.

A little OBL meat is all they needed. "Revenge is a dish best served cold", and these folks would have eaten that meat right out of the refrigerator.

"They" and "these folks", according to field's interpretation, are people who believe the killing of bin Laden was good. But that means those who exclude themselves from the "they" and "these people" population believe the killing of bin Laden was not good, or possibly they believe it was bad.

In other words, they believe foreign enemies whose goal is to destroy the US and end the rights to freedom that define our country, are entitled to the protections granted to US citizens by those same rights.

Such lunacy has never occurred before and hopefully it never will.

Hankies Cut of Brain Circulation said...

AM

Ms. Ann G. Myma said...
No, it's not. Those 19 hijackers killed those people. Folks who say that 911 was an inside job are no different than the wingnut birthers who say that Obama wasn't born here.
----
Sorry Field, I love you but I have to disagree. I'm certainly not a Truther, but, there are scientific facts about 9-11 that just don't add up.

Whether it was Operation Northwood, the assassinations of the 1960's, Vietnam, the numerous invasions of other developing nations- to the current wars, we haven't been told the truth about any of it.

I believe 50 years of unchecked, unbridled criminality on the part of our government is exactly why we are in the mess we are today.

The American People deserve an investigation of 9-11.

4:36 AM


Ahhh, another liberal nutjob and you had the BALLS to say anything about birthers. Disgusting.

By the way, nutjobs like you have been investigating for 10 years.
As Obama would say, we did land on the moon. Liberalism is a mental disorder!! The reason we are in the mess we are today is liberalism, where you believe that you have the right to everything without sacrifice and that nothing bad will ever happen to you and if it does its not because anything you did, its all someone elses fault. Cuckooooooooooooooooooo!!!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Fans of former president George W. Bush, including former members of his administration and conservatives online and in the media, have been straining to allow the 43rd president share credit with President Barack Obama for the killing of bin Laden,http://blog.reidreport.com/2011/05/dead-or-alive-the-sorry-history-of-george-w-bush-and-the-hunt-for-osama-bin-laden/

The only reasons the right wingers are pushing the torture meme is because they need something to justify their support of an illegal activity, they really need to make the case -- to themselves, at least -- that it was Bush who singlehandedly killed Bin Laden, and they get off on kinky stuff like waterboarding.
Well, it's better than imagining Michele Bachmann in leather, I suppose. http://www.barkbarkwoofwoof.com/2011/05/waterboarding-didnt-do-it.html

MOld


Or maybe its just something so simple as this is what happened.

WhaddaYa think? Could it be that noone even knows you exist, you would never be important enough for anyone to even care let alone plot to fool you and shit happens? Could that be it?

no_slappz said...

birthers vs truthers:

Birthers believe one person, Obama, has hidden facts about his past, facts that even Obama himself cannot confirm or deny because he himself cannot attest to where he was when he was born.

He only knows what's on various documents he holds.

Truthers believe a vast conspiracy involving thousands and thousands and thousands of people, many at the highest levels of our government, was undertaken to commit the 9/11 atrocity.

There is, at least, the possibility that one person could hide facts about his birth. It's been done. Thus, though birthers are chasing a wild goose, their claim is within the realm of the possible.

The truthers? Not a chance. Pure madness.

Therefore, on a scale of relative insanity, the birthers are a little wacky, while the truthers are industrial-strength nuts.

Anonymous said...

Is the racist armchair cowboy SPC now wishing for due process for Bin Laden who was responsible for at least 3,000 American murders?

Or is he just angry that the black Commander in Chief engineered his assassination and not the fake warrior Bush?

Lets try it slowly.

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld put the policies in place and developed the teams - Obama was against this.

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld took a lot of heat from the hypocritical incompetent liberals on steps they took towards protecting us - Obama and his ilk led the pack in the heat giving.

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld built, expanded funding and planned for the need for additional special forces and black ops teams - Obama and his ilk were against them and called them assination squads.

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld knew that when you deal with murderous terrorists who have no rules but to kill you that playing liberal cant think for fear of pain would not work, they knew that offering that murderer sympathy a cupcake and bowing to him would not make him like us, rather hate us more with disrespect so they waterboarded a few and got information.

Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld's information led to identifying the courier and let Obama know for "2 years!!" where Osama was living.

Obama's approval ratings are tanking because he is an abject failure, the economy is the worst in us history and all he can think of is to continue spending and attacking people without any real solutions.

Obama authorizes the 100 % white Seals (it doesnt matter to me, but your a racist) to go in and "KILL" Osama"

NOt sure why he didn't want him captured especially if he was unarmed as reported. Maybe its because he figured he could say he was dumped at sea and no one would ever know he probably died in the mountains under carpet bombing 9 years ago and Obama needs some deflection from Black Unemployment, illegal alien invasion and total chaos in the economy.

White Foreman said...

How come you stupid black racists are not complaining about the use of the name Geronimo to describe the enemy terrorist/murderer? That's equivalent to saying that Geronimo, a freedom fighter for his people, was the same as bin Laden.

Do I have to teach you dopes everything? C'mon, Wayne, you get most of your ideas from HuffPo, but this is your chance to post something that the white liberals didn't feed to you.

LACoincidental said...

Given the wild stories and stretches and logic, I see that my original presumptions are correct - no matter what the facts are, people believe what they want to believe and feed their minds with their on personal preferences for worldview.

The birthers and righties wouldn't give President Obama credit if the man shat gold and the First Lady's breast milk could cure cancer. Its all about 'the evil darkie'. Why should taking down bin Laden be any different?

The truther and uber hard left simply see any action taken by the US government as some sort of plot towards imperialism or backroom deal of the military industrial complex. So again, why should taking down the biggest terrorist in the world matter?


In short - we as a country can't have real debates on policy, or issues or even the political aftermath of something this big. We too entrenched in our own camps.

White Foreman said...

Let's also get the ball rolling already in saying that bin Laden was killed because he wasn't a White. Do you have to be such chickens and take days to build up to it? Just jump right in.

Let's not forget that nutbag Nelson Mandela was the first to criticize the US when we plastered the Taliban in Afghanistan. "It's because they're not white", he'd said.

You know the Mandela that I mean, right? He was in 'prison' for years but somehow managed to be cheating on his wife with fellow psycho Winnie. What kind of prison was that?

And oh yes, he also ordered the bombing deaths of white civilians while in prison, which he admitted to in the days of reconciliation.

So c'mon, repeat after me: bin Laden was only killed because he wasn't White.

uptownsteve said...

Anonymous,

You are an imbecile.

The Bush policies FAILED.

Exactly why Bin Laden was still on the loose when Bush left office 7 years after 9/11, we were languishing in Iraq and Afghanistan and a trillion dollars more in debt because of those wars.

Bush deserves no credit and you righties look even more stupid trying to assign any to him.

This operation and the success was all Obama's.

Deal with and learn ONCE AGAIN that it takes a righteous black man to clean up the mess of goobers.

Dr. Nuwang said...

Dr.QueenTenacious said...
What I want to know is, did the SEALS really have to use the code word "Geronimo"? I mean, my cherokee ancestors wouldn't be pleased even though Geronimo was an Apache.

Why not use a code word like Stalin, or Hitler, or McVeigh? Hell Ida' been happy with Dahmer!
>>>>>>>>>>>

This was posted yesterday and reading is fundamental.

But obviously NOT to stupid white racists.

White Foreman said...

well LAC, what is the official black racist explanation about why Obama took years to release his supposed proof of citizenship, and also spent a small fortune preventing it? Normally, that would be regarded as ultra suspicious, but when you play the race card then that suspicion is supposed to go away.

Now imagine some athlete was asked to take a drug test, but they refused and much later at the time of their choosing they present proof that they are clean. Is that suspicious or not?

I bet you negroes insisted that Marion Jones was being unjustly accused (over steroids) because she's black, right?

White Foreman said...

@Kim aka Dr Queen, what was the name you were using a year or so ago here?

P.S. Not everybody reads here every day. It does get repetitive: "you are a racist", over and over.

LACoincidental said...

White Foreman said...

well LAC, what is the official black racist explanation about why Obama took years to release his supposed proof of citizenship, and also spent a small fortune preventing it? Normally, that would be regarded as ultra suspicious, but when you play the race card then that suspicion is supposed to go away.



Again White Foreman, believe what you want to believe. He released his short form certificate of live birth well into the campaign, but that wasn't good enough for you wing nuts. And more importantly, when did we start questioning our President's citizenship off the bat? No one would have batted an eye if McCain, who was born in Panama, became POTUS.

Just come out the closet, say you don't like a Negro in the White House and we can move on.

BTW, I don't really care that Marion Jones got caught using drugs - in fact I say 'great'. She was an Olympiad who sullied the whole spirit of the games. Its supposed to test human limits not how many artificial hormones can you jack into your bloodstream to mutate yourself into a cartoon character.

White Foreman said...

@LAC, actually I was all set to support Alan Keyes way back when, because he was the most conservative of the bunch. But the primary was over long before I could vote - idiot Bush II had enough money to steamroller over everything. I couldn't even get a Keyes bumper sticker by then, to have as a memento.

What I don't like is black racist negroes, like Holder, put into office by racial opportunist Obama.

uptownsteve said...

Goober Foreman

"well LAC, what is the official black racist explanation about why Obama took years to release his supposed proof of citizenship,"

Well because he other issues and greater responsibilities to be concerned with.

The toothless goobers who were demanding the President prove his citizenship to them weren't worth his time.

He finally released the infor just to shut them up.

uptownsteve said...

LAC

Notice how racist goobers like WF always claim to have supported some black righty AFTER the fact.

Hey White Foreman,

What's stopping you from starting your "Herman Cain in 2012" campaign right now?

Since you love conservative negroes so much.

White Foreman said...

@LAC, by the way, my primary guess about what Obama was hiding was the name of the father, which was missing or else was somebody other than Obama senior. So Barry Obama pulled off a major scam, because everybody was distracted by the location.

So it's either that or else something so odd that it can't be guessed. But he was definitely hiding something. Otherwise his behavior is completely irrational.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"I WAS sailing to PR to see desertfox but I don't know where the fuck I am now...I must be somewhere on the water- around VIs, so I must be close to PR or Jamaica or, wtf.... Somebody call the coast guard."

Oh boy! Anonymous I think you're in the BERMUDA TRIANGLE! You better scram outta there as fast as possible! I called the coast guard, they are out searching for an "Anonymous" yacht with people screaming on it! I thought you knew how to sail??? God help you!


I hope you make it!

The Desertfox (I like that:)

Anonymous said...

The question to ask now, since Libtards are so blood thirsty, who does Obama kill now?

What about those 2 terrorist groups in this country that have killed more Americans in the last 30 years than all other terrorist groups have killed in the last 100 years in America?


Can Obama kill pookie and ray ray of the bloods and crips?

Osama was a Paleface said...

Uh, oh. Speaking of "red-meat", The Injuns are pissed now:

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/05/onondaga_nation_leaders_blast.html

Anonymous said...

Poor racist Goobers...all talk...no action. Love how you sillies keep trying to sell strawman arguments...the same ludicrous ones from church. Yes, the memes you think are soooo serious....are jokes. And, like 'special' kids...your repeat them without understanding.
Taking 'advice' from an uneducated person who has no discernable expertise in the matter is not rational behavior. Since your goal is to TELL others what to do...and you obviously delight in being PITAs...I think I'll simply continue laughing at your attempts.
Please continue with the child-like antics. It's cute, even when you are old enough to know better.

Mold

黒人が犬のフンのようなにおい said...

Anonymous said...
Taking 'advice' from an uneducated person who has no discernable expertise in the matter is not rational behavior.


Mold


Thats why no one takes advice from you on anything.Feel free to show my error.

Sequoya said...

Ms.QueefHellacious said...
What I want to know is, did the SEALS really have to use the code word "Geronimo"? I mean, my cherokee ancestors wouldn't be pleased even though Geronimo was an Apache.

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You are not descended from Cherokees, you are descended from retards.

True Cherokees are warriors, and we are proud when America honors our memory in moments of triumph.

Do not speak for a people of which you are not one. Stop calling yourself a Cherokee. and stop calling yourself a doctor.

Gravy said...

Ms. Ann G. Myma said...
"Why, you little chauvinistic, racist dog! Define feminist? I'll bet you don't even know what a feminist is. As far as white feminists are concern, please produce a book, article or link that exhibits disdain for African American boys- or men"
-----------

So Aunt Jemima is a White Feminist? Hmmm....that is interesting.

Feminism has become a Marxist Misandry movement. Feminism is the hate of heterosexual love between men and women, companionship between husband and wife, familial ties between father and daughter. Feminism is the hate of heterosexual family. Feminism hates fathers who love who love their children. Feminism hates the religions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam because of their absolute moral standards and ideals of honor and fidelity. Remember, the very first Feminist was Satan. Feminism is a culture of discrimination and psychological castration of little boys.

And black boys have gotten it the worst. Generations of African American boys have been turned out of school and into jail, and still the feminist power structure that runs the schools pushes for ever more advantages for female students. It is absolutely sick.

This analysis was not funded by a million dollar federal grant. Nor is this analysis endorsed by the White House Counsel on Women and Girls, the National Organization of Women, the American Association of University Women or the North American Man Boy Love Association.

Anonymous said...

Steve With The Weave said...

Goober Foreman

"well LAC, what is the official black racist explanation about why Obama took years to release his supposed proof of citizenship,"

Well because he other issues and greater responsibilities to be concerned with.

Oh, that was so sincere I almost believed it, then I remembered the golf, the parties, the b-ball, the campaigning, I guess we should be thankful this is how he keeps busy otherwise the dollar wouldn't have lasted this long on it's way towards the inevetable crash and replacement under his policies.

The toothless goobers who were demanding the President prove his citizenship to them weren't worth his time.

Yeah, more typical arrogance from the I cun bawely wead HS Dropout, or Colledge Grad with major in afrikan studies bwack man.

He finally released the infor just to shut them up.

If we release a load on you will you shut up?

Anonymous said...

Oohh, a liar who lies to us about Feminism. And calling his lie an 'analysis'. Such drollery! As if being a weenie was a appeal to authority. -snicker-
Feminism is the great eveel as it tells Goobers that their daughters and wives are not property...that girls are just as good as boys...and that reducing girls options to let unqualified boys get the goodies is wrong.
No, we are not your playthings (unless we volunteer) and we are not chattel. We are indeed the ones who got far better grades than you. Do you think it is about time you got used to that?
How's that mail-order bride serch going? Are you one of those sooper-geniuses who has to keep 'marrying' ladies who are only in it for the card? And you still beleeverate that you can purchase an English-speaking, college-educated 'virgin' for less than you paid for your car? -snicker- -guffaw-
Silly Gooberian Heeyuck....the going rate for a local bride is the US median for a house. Duh. You want the 'product'....you either have to make my wage...or pony up with a massive loan.
Such expertise. Must serve you well at the low-skill end of the employment spectrum. Feel free to pretend you are not taking orders from janitors. We will be polite and feign interest and that we believe you.
Or, grow up...be a mensch and a macher.

Mold

Joe Mamadopolous said...

21 AM



Dr.QueenTenacious said...
Dr.QueenTenacious said...
What I want to know is, did the SEALS really have to use the code word "Geronimo"? I mean, my cherokee ancestors wouldn't be pleased even though Geronimo was an Apache.

Why not use a code word like Stalin, or Hitler, or McVeigh? Hell Ida' been happy with Dahmer!
>>>>>>>>>>>

This was posted yesterday and reading is fundamental.

But obviously NOT to stupid white racists.


Yes, reading is Fundamental, Isn't it MOLD. I think I figured it out, you has so many degrees as MOLD you had to create Queen LaQueefa to share the extras. Now she has 4, will you give this character any more?

Anonymous said...

Lac, "Given the wild stories and stretches and logic, I see that my original presumptions are correct - no matter what the facts are, people believe what they want to believe and feed their minds with their on personal preferences for worldview."

Yeah, there are a lot logical people on this blog. LOL You folks wouldn't know logic if it slapped you in the face. You folks worship your feelings and its mostly anger and mistrust of Whites. And you call that logic?

Field has a field day stirring up off-the-chart feelings of his peeps. Read Dr Queen's comments. They are filled with painful illogical emotions and she claims to have many degrees from the best Universities!

You are right. We see what we want to see. But that is far from reality.

mold's meds said...

smold: "....the going rate for a local bride is the US median for a house. Duh. You want the 'product'....you either have to make my wage...or pony up with a massive loan."

Mold's wage: nothing; Mold's house: a refrigerator box.

Price: tree fitty and a pound of hangburger meat.

Anonymous said...

DesertFox said, "Oh boy! Anonymous I think you're in the BERMUDA TRIANGLE! You better scram outta there as fast as possible! I called the coast guard, they are out searching for an "Anonymous" yacht with people screaming on it! I thought you knew how to sail??? God help you!


I hope you make it!

The Desertfox (I like that:)"

Thanks for calling the Coast Guard. I knew you cared about me. I see you were the ONLY ONE on this blog who cared about me.

When or 'if' I make it to PR, I am going to buy you a nice lunch at mickey D's. It'll all be on me. Then we can go watch tv on my yacht. There's nothing more exciting than watching Maury Povich followed by Judge Judy on a giant flat panel tv on a beautiful yacht!

Hope to see you soon, you little desert fox.

Rottnkid said...

"Mohamed did not reveal the names while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as water boarding, former officials said. He identified them many months later under standard interrogation, they said, leaving it once again up for debate as to whether the harsh technique was a valuable tool or an unnecessarily violent tactic."

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But that's not what I've been told...Wasn't May 1st declared "National Waterboarding Day" or something?

Everyday I learn something new from No_Slappz.

Thanks bro.

Chief Happy Beagle said...

"Sequoya said...
Ms.QueefHellacious said...
What I want to know is, did the SEALS really have to use the code word "Geronimo"? I mean, my cherokee ancestors wouldn't be pleased even though Geronimo was an Apache.

--------

You are not descended from Cherokees, you are descended from retards.

True Cherokees are warriors, and we are proud when America honors our memory in moments of triumph.

Do not speak for a people of which you are not one. Stop calling yourself a Cherokee. and stop calling yourself a doctor.

12:17 PM"


BUT.....I'm sure Queen has a degree in Native American Studies, and was given an honorary membership into the Takea Dumpa Tribe...hence, her honorific Indian name, "Squaw Who Lick'em Scurvy Camp Dog Balls".

Anonymous said...

That's it? All you Goobers have is lies?
While you sockpuppet to have friends, I have no such need. Either you agree with me...or not...is fine. As long as you base your opinion on Facts. If you base it on poorly written wingnut Koch-suckery....I may point out you are a gullible fool.
Projection, again?
As far as my wages...you would love to make what I do. Too bad you have to pout and whine (but never, ever do the actual work it requires) over the money. Let me tell you that I make enough to be invited to the 'right' parties. I also find it hilarious that you are trying so very desperately to have me be your equal (hah!) or subordinate in income. Sorry, those days of wites making more than credentialed AfAms are long since past. You, and all your family combined...might earn what I do. Maybe.
So, you could whimper that it is so unfair that the wites makes less...or you could, like, do the work.


Mold

Ms. Bunny Easter said...

no_slappz said...
No US leader ever said Saddam Hussein was "Responsible" for 9/11. Never happened. It was said that Saddam was complicit. It was said and confirmed that al-Qaeda had a presence in Iraq.
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You are a very disturbed man. I'll bet if someone would put a bowl of shyte in your face and asked does it stink, you'll probably declare that it doesn't. Then you'll rack your brain for ridiculous reasons to justify why there is no smell. You have an Authoritarian Personality. Get some help!

BTW, George Bush did say this:

"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006

Anonymous said...

uts-what does 'goober' mean? is it the same as cracker? would you call SPC or dr queen a goober?

Anonymous said...

Oh...just for reference...you could look to the Russian experience when the Fwee Market was installed...or China. Despite your youthful Gooberian fantasies of an redistributed societal structure...what actually occurred was different. While you cross your six fingers in christian hoperation of the smart and diligent being supplanted by the lazy and wite during the elimination of unions, living wages and government supports...what WILL happen is that those above you on the socioeconomic pyramid will shove you even lower.
Keep trying to crash wages...and although I may have to drive myself (eventually)...you will be alongside your peers in the favelas.

Mold

Ms. Bunny Easter said...

Anonymous Chief Happy Beagle said...
BUT.....I'm sure Queen has a degree in Native American Studies, and was given an honorary membership into the Takea Dumpa Tribe...hence, her honorific Indian name, "Squaw Who Lick'em Scurvy Camp Dog Balls".
-----

Mmmmm! No! That sounds more like your tribe,Chief Redneck.

Anonymous said...

"Oh boy! Anonymous I think you're in the BERMUDA TRIANGLE! You better scram outta there as fast as possible! I called the coast guard, they are out searching for an "Anonymous" yacht with people screaming on it! I thought you knew how to sail??? God help you!"

Now see. This is why Blacks should not try to sail or swim. Hell, that has got to be frightening to the coast guard to see a yacht full of Blacks screaming their asses off.

Anonymous said...

"Mmmmm! No! That sounds more like your tribe,Chief Redneck."

Is a Redneck a goober? somebody please tell me what a goober is!

Mr. field, please do a post on "Goobers". It would be quite educational for all concerned.

Remy said...

Ms. Ann G. Myma said...
"No US leader ever said Saddam Hussein was "Responsible" for 9/11. Never happened. It was said that Saddam was complicit. It was said and confirmed that al-Qaeda had a presence in Iraq. "

Yes, it is true that Saddam helped Al Quaeda including those who perpetrated 9-11, and it is true that Saddam hid WMD from UN inspectors, the question is whether it was right for Bush to stick around and try to make a democracy out of Iraq instead of just killing Saddam and leaving.

We have paid a high price in lives to make Iraq a free country.

We are also paying a high price in Afghanistan. More American troops have died in the first two years of Obama's escalation than did in all 8 years of Bush running things. President Obama needs to explain why Afghanistan is worth such a high cost. I would prefer it if we would pull back with the promise of returning to kill everyone should any more terrorists be supported.

Mo the Trucker said...

"Under my plan, energy prices would necessarily skyrocket".
- Barack Hussein Obama, January of 2008.

Thanks, President Obama.

If the American people ever figure out how to put two and two together (questionable, reading the posts on this blog), Obama is toast.

Anonymous said...

AnnG, who doesn't like 15 yo 'comedians' who laugh at their own jokes (no one else will)? We need these obtuse lads to show others what FAIL and EPIC FAIL are.
They are what passes for 'wit' amongst their peers. Moliere' has nothing on them! Why, he is French!
Though, I do feel sad that they, like their much-better paid models from FOX had to sit through the Seth Myers gig and have the entire piece go well above their understanding.
Wonder what will happen when we ask why their parents are siblings...or that they refuse education because Revrund BillySueJimBob fears book larnin'....or that they murder each other for imagined slights...or that their much vaunted and much touted 'Merican culture...is sales pitches?

Mold

uptownsteve said...

Ass non

"The toothless goobers who were demanding the President prove his citizenship to them weren't worth his time."

Pretty much.

You did see how throughly he exposed and humiliated the little pinheads, didn't you?

Then almost immediately went about the business of extinguishing the world's most wanted outlaw.

So what will you goobers come up with next?

A new Elvis sighting?

Anonymous said...

Remy, why are you lying to us? All those lies are already shown to be false...and here you are repeating them.
Saddam was a foe of OBL. WMDs existed solely to sell the bushWar to morons.
Try to keep selling these lies. You might beleeverate them...but the adults recognized them as lies...years ago.

Mold

Anonymous said...

UTS, I have to agree with the 'slapping' and political drubbing the wingnuts and Goobers received. The mindless repetition of falsehoods that were successful during st reagan and bush....only serve to highlight their mental paucity. And, the MSM, once so eager to bootlick the mighty, mighty salesmen of st reagan and bush...now has the verklempt Intertubes to Fact-Check their sycophant selves. It is one thing to be unquestioned in your unceasing deference to the IOKIYAR policy...it is another when some OCD Lefty shows your are incorrect...or lying.


Mold

The Black Sphere said...

shitbrownsteve said: You did see how throughly he exposed and humiliated the little pinheads, didn't you?
........
If that is true, then the whole think was a setup, and any distraction or time wasting is on Obama.


SBS: Then almost immediately went about the business of extinguishing the world's most wanted outlaw.
........
Wow, once the birth certificate issue was over, it only to 4 days to get Osama. Amazing.

Your inability to think perfectly illustrates the mind of an Obama supporter.

God help us all.

no_slappz said...

outtatownsteve writes:

Then almost immediately went about the business of extinguishing the world's most wanted outlaw.

Yeah, the way the sentiment in the story-line is going, the Obama-supporters are suggesting Obama himself was part of the SEAL team that shot bin Laden, and was possibly the SEAL who fired the fatal shots and said "Geronimo -- KIA."

Interesting said...

Everything mold says is 180 degrees from the truth (see post at 1:57 pm, for a recent example).

This illustrates that it knows what it is saying is false.

Ms. Bunny Easter said...

Gravy said...
Feminism has become a Marxist Misandry movement.
----

You know, you're not worth it. You're incapable of forming an opinion of your own. All of your stuff is googled from some right-wing website. Obviously, as I've said, you don't know what a feminist is. Therefore, may I say most sincerely, phucc you!

Gravy said...

Ms. Ann G. Myma is a White Feminist said...
Obviously, as I've said, you don't know what a feminist is. Therefore, may I say most sincerely, phucc you!
---------

I know what a White Feminist like you is all about, which is why you are so defensive. Your crimes against Black Men are being exposed and people like you will have to pay for what you have done.

uptownsteve said...

Goober Sphere

"If that is true, then the whole think was a setup, and any distraction or time wasting is on Obama."

Are you suggesting that Obama tricked the pinheads into thinking that he wasn't a US citizens so that they could drool and rant for two years just so he could finally humiliate them with the long form birth certificate???

They are dumb and Obama is obviously of superior intellect but I doubt if a ruse that elaborate was concocted.

LMAO!!!

no_slappz said...

rottnkid posted:

"Mohamed did not reveal the names while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as water boarding, former officials said. He identified them many months later under standard interrogation, they said, leaving it once again up for debate as to whether the harsh technique was a valuable tool or an unnecessarily violent tactic."

Is the concept of negative conditioning totally foreign to you?

When a prisoner is waterboarded, he learns how horrible it is. After several sessions of waterboarding, the interrogators can back away from the practice and use a less coercive form of inducement.

Then, when the interrogators feel the prisoner is failing to be forthcoming, they can strap him to the board, put the wet towel on his face and let him hear the sound of water running into a pitcher.

At that point the interrogators can tell the prisoner the waterboarding is about to start, and maybe, just maybe, the prisoner will start talking.

The Black Sphere said...

uptownsteve said... They are dumb and Obama is obviously of superior intellect but I doubt if a ruse that elaborate was concocted.
......

There is no other explanation (if it is real) for holding it for three years.

A billion dollar campaign operation could certainly produce a credible fake. Once Obama's family friend became Governor in January, altering the official record became possible.

Are you suggesting the birth certificate was a fake? Because if it was real, the whole thing was most certainly a set up.

uptownsteve said...

Goober Sphere

"There is no other explanation (if it is real) for holding it for three years."

Maybe because it was a non-issue.

Which Obama ultimately proved.

Damn goobers are dumb.

The Black Sphere said...

uptownsteve said...
"Maybe because it was a non-issue."

68% of voters expressing some doubt as to whether or not you are constitutionally qualified to be President is a non-issue?

Are you serious? Or just really goddamned dumb?

uptownsteve said...

"68% of voters expressing some doubt as to whether or not you are constitutionally qualified to be President is a non-issue?"

What funky orifice did you pull this bull$hit out of?

LMAO?????

Anonymous said...

uptownsteve said...
Ass non

"The toothless goobers who were demanding the President prove his citizenship to them weren't worth his time."

Pretty much.

You did see how throughly he exposed and humiliated the little pinheads, didn't you?

Then almost immediately went about the business of extinguishing the world's most wanted outlaw.

So what will you goobers come up with next?

A new Elvis sighting?

1:49 PM


Claims that affirmative action actually increases the intelligence and genetic improvement for males like you, that is the next conspiracy theory. Oh shit, wait, the wiberals already beat us to it. Can't find any proof yet in millions of examples, but still trying. For if you don't have hope for change then all you will have is hope for change, while holding the cardboard sign.

Anonymous said...

PM

The Black Sphere said...
uptownsteve said...
"Maybe because it was a non-issue."

68% of voters expressing some doubt as to whether or not you are constitutionally qualified to be President is a non-issue?

Are you serious? Or just really goddamned dumb?


Hes not dumb hes steve with the weave and platform shoes add a wedge cause my females is bigga then me gimme dat affirmative action cant compete without fake waacism stevey brown. Ask him again and he will say he knock you down, while he runnin away, unless he have 10 frends to fight for him. Little Napolean Stevie...looks like he pulled his bone apart.

uptownsteve said...

Still waiting on that 68% link Jethro.

Or at least admit you pulled it out of yo a$$.

The Black Sphere said...

Anonymous said...
Hes not dumb hes steve with the weave and platform shoes
.......

I can see that now. It is a waste of time to argue with someone who clings so tightly to his ignorance.

Mistyped on the 68%, it was ONLY 62%.

In the USA TODAY poll from 4/26/11, only 38% of Americans said Obama definitely was born in the USA. This means at 62% weren't sure.

That's kind of issue, is it not stevie? Or are we still going with the official Obama campaign spin that this was something he barely thought about?

Houseki said...

I know many non-Christians that were "deeply troubled" by the chanting, celebrating, etc. that decorated the news and the airwaves. Yes, I'm a Christian but I think any *humanist* can take comfort in the words of Dr. King:

"I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that." -Martin Luther King Jr.

Ms. Bunny Easter said...

Anonymous Gravy said...
I know what a White Feminist like you is all about, which is why you are so defensive
---

You don't know shyte.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said..
"Thanks for calling the Coast Guard. I knew you cared about me. I see you were the ONLY ONE on this blog who cared about me.

When or 'if' I make it to PR, I am going to buy you a nice lunch at mickey D's. It'll all be on me. Then we can go watch tv on my yacht. There's nothing more exciting than watching Maury Povich followed by Judge Judy on a giant flat panel tv on a beautiful yacht!"

I feel so quilty that you're lost in "The Bermuda Triangle". After all you were coming to see me! I only hope you don't become shark food, oops, sorry didn't mean to scare you! On the other hand you might bump into Osama floating around. Would you like that? But don't worry they'll find you.

Oh and another thing, you do have membership to a yacht club in San Juan, don't you? Because if not, I don't think you'll be allowed to dock there, you might even get arrested! It's a TSA thing because of terrorism and drug smuggling :)

In that case you'll have to come in on the western side, where things are much looser, and where all the "indocumentados" sneak in! Hahaha! What a learning experience for you!

This is quite an adventure eh? Aren't you glad you met me?

Oh, and I love Judge Judy when she screams in exasperation at the perps "LISTEN TO ME! JUST LISTEN TO ME! YOU'RE NOT LISTENING THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND SIR!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA what a woman!

We're gonna have fun. If you make it that is...........:(

no_slappz said...

No photos of the dead bin Laden. It's official. Obama said so. No pictures of bin Laden with his head blown open.

Why? Because the photos might upset muslims. As if the assassination itself was not enough to send the psycho faction of muslims into a whirling dervish of mandess and pointless slaughter of other muslims.

That's Obama -- one lucky break followed by two steps back.

When it comes to appeasing muslims, he always finds a way.

How about he projects an American expectation that muslims appease America?

But, we know that's too much to ask of Obama.

no_slappz said...

houseki posted:

Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that.

The Islamic world craves the darkness.

Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that." -Martin Luther King Jr.

Spoken by someone who did not know that 100 million devout muslims would have killed him long before James Earl Ray did. They would have done it to keep the hate, as at least one imam, speaking about Obama, has already stated.

uptownsteve said...

From butthole sphere's link

LMAO!!!!!

"Still, in the USA TODAY poll, only 38% of Americans say Obama definitely was born in the USA, and 18% say he probably was. Fifteen percent say he probably was born in another country, and 9%say he definitely was born elsewhere.

Republicans are inclined to say the president was born abroad by 43%-35%.

For what it’s worth, not everyone is convinced Trump was born in the USA either: 43% say he definitely was born here, and 20% say he probably was; 7% say he definitely or probably was born in another country. Nearly three in 10 say they don’t know enough to say.

The poll of 1,013 adults, taken Wednesday to Saturday, has a margin of error of +/–4 percentage"

yousa a dummy.

no_slappz said...

outtatownsteve writes:

For what it’s worth, not everyone is convinced Trump was born in the USA either...

As if it matters where Trump was born. Meanwhile, the Trump poll was probably taken in your head.

As for the Obama poll, it's also meaningless. No one will consider voting against him due to this media pseudo-event. People will vote for the other guy due to the way Obama has bungled the economy.

Anonymous said...

houseki posted:

Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that.


So.....you don't believe in Affirmative action, right?

annette said...

no_slappz said...
"As for the Obama poll, it's also meaningless. No one will consider voting against him due to this media pseudo-event."

Not true. I am not voting for him specifically because of the way he gamed this birth certificate issue for ovet 2 and a half years. what a waste of the country's time! He should have been working to provide jobs for his people, instead he played cheap politcal games.

Hobama Doesnt suck - he Licks said...

Downlow Steve Said.....

Republicans are inclined to say the president was born abroad by 43%-35%.


Steve, your weave is too tight it's cutting of the circulation to that pea brain of yours, no one said Obama was born a broad, he is probably gay judging by the blowjobs he got from larry sinclair but I don't doubt he was not born a broad but is a real man...well at least in the sense of the equipment he was given. I saw a picture of him from behind, what a pencil neck geek his head and ears look like he is ready to fly on a neck the size of a pencil.

no_slappz said...

annette says:

Not true. I am not voting for him...He should have been working to provide jobs for his people, instead he played cheap politcal games.

As I said, people will vote for the other guy because Obama is bungling the economy.

One step ahead said...

uptownsteve said...
"Still, in the USA TODAY poll, only 38% of Americans say Obama definitely was born in the USA"

It's pretty serious when 62% of Americans aren't sure if the President was even born here.

Obama had to do something. If he didn't come up with that birth certificate, there is no way he would ever be reelected.

He must have been waiting until right before the election, but Trump forced his hand.

Either that, or the American people turning on him forced him to come up with a fake birth certificate.

Either way, he has defeated his enemies this time. Go President Obama!

Rottnkid said...

no_slappz said...
Is the concept of negative conditioning totally foreign to you?
-----

Of course I'm not..It's common sense to understand the human mind can get "worn down" and then your body follows..

BUT when your boy says shit like this:

Rumsfeld told Newsmax this week that “beneficial” information about Osama bin Laden had not been obtained through waterboarding or “harsh treatment,” but he told Hannity the exact opposite last night

Well, you know the rest.

I'm not really here to debate you because I suck at it and if I didn't suck at it, I'll never win. You're just a more articulate version of AB. I came to accept that. So I'm just tossing back words spoken by your favorite group Bush & Co.

Anonymous said...

"Either way, he has defeated his enemies this time. Go President Obama!"

that's right he has. stupid crackers tried to take him down based on a story that could be disproven with a piece of paper! obama could have come up with a birth certifcate that said he was born on top of the washington monument on the fourth of july and those toothless goobers would have had to accept it. who they think they paying with? obama plays to win.

LMAO!!!

Ms. Bunny Easter said...

Blogger uptownsteve said...
So what will you goobers come up with next?
A new Elvis sighting?
1:49 PM
----

It's already started UTS. They are attacking the parents. Obama's dead dad is about to be scandalized by the right-wing for dating white women. The dead mother Stanley is going to be equally violated. She will be accused of sleeping with another black man. This of course, in their sick minds, indicates Barack Sr., is not the president's real father. The Free Republic has already written an article stating that Obama's dad is really a man named Frank Marshall Davis. He's mentioned in Obama's book, Dreams From My Father. I'm not going to go in any details, but the right-wing's accusations are ridiculous. Obama's 17 year old mother would have had to be intimate with a man that was 57 years old at the time. This is pornographic-racist trash. However, knowing the Jim Crow Media, it may very well go mainstream. After all, they are notorious for echoing false narratives from the right.

Anonymous said...

Yep, waterboarding works....like Viagra for Chickenhawks who can't get excited any other way. As far as valid intelligence....not so much.
Face it, all you want is to torture people who can't fight back. Such a manly st reagan version of courage! How much heroic bravery does it take you to drown a person strapped down for the 'crime' of apostasy...ooh, my bad...heresy....oopsy...for the delight and titillation of Cheney.
Note how quickly they tried to spin this as a bush success. Must be the time el busho was in office wasn't enough...he had to magically be included.
Hmmmm....
Feel free to show my errors. You can lie all you want...but without backing your claims up with valid support, you are just upset widdle sit Wankalots.
Yes, I noticed the bush cronies lining up to take credit for others doing the actual work. They had two terms to get OBL...and they bought shoes, pranced around in front of the MSM, wore costumes....pretty much only the showpieces of administration. The community organizer got it done...and all of a sudden they ran to be in front of cameras. Why did they not do the work? What held them back? It certainly was not ethics, morals or squeamishness. bush let thousands drown in Katrina.
For good or ill, Obama is the actor here.
Trying to take credit...well, we got your number. We'll call if we need those kinds of folks.

Mold

John Boner said...

Ms. Ann G. Myma said...
Obama's dead dad is about to be scandalized by the right-wing for dating white women. The dead mother Stanley is going to be equally violated. She will be accused of sleeping with another black man. This of course, in their sick minds, indicates Barack Sr., is not the president's real father. The Free Republic has already written an article stating that Obama's dad is really a man named Frank Marshall Davis. He's mentioned in Obama's book, Dreams From My Father. I'm not going to go in any details..."


I will. Obama's father dating white women is a story? His mom was white you idiot!!!

As far as Stanley Ann Dunham is concerned, well....just Google "Obama's momma" and see what kind of images you get.

Those pictures could have been taken by Frank Marshall Davis, who wrote in his book how he had sex with a 13 year old girl named "Ann".

Pretty damn weird, huh? But what isn't about Obama?

Anonymous said...

AnnG, it must be troo! Trumpie sort of sleeps with girls young enough to be his granddaughter. That means Libruls do it too!
Although I have long been impressed with many journalists for their extensive knowledge and experiences...there are obviously some Cons who are in that workplace who would willingly swallow anything...Trumpie Geezer Gook, Brietbart Bigot Bullpoo, wingnut pandering piddle, and the concept of bush as competent.
The yowling of racist Goobers from Heeyuckistan as their worldview comes crashing down when confronted with the Reality of Obama's proven competence...is music. wile they scurry like rats in a futile attempt to bolster their wite supremacy fiction...he stomped on their Birther bigotry, wit-slapped Geezer Trumpie in the public forum, and got OBL.
And EVERYONE saw it. bush and st reagan were widdle boys wearing Big Adult costumes for pretend. Obama brought the Real Deal. ;)

Mold

Martin Luther King was a Republican said...

Houseki said...
"I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that." -Martin Luther King Jr.

Real nice. Real fitting in the wake of the OBL news. Only it's real fake:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2011/05/misquotes-martin-luther-king-bin-laden-twitter.html

MLK never said that.

It's a Facebook/ Twitter hoax.

Nice job, Houfaki.

uptownsteve said...

Anon

"It's pretty serious when 62% of Americans aren't sure if the President was even born here."

No idiot. 38% of the 1000 people USA today polled weren't sure he was born here.

That's quite different than what you originally asserted.

I don't know anyone personally, Republican or Democrat who doubted that Obama was an American.

The polls were definitely taken in Gooberville, USA.

You know they didn't poll any black folks.

The Black Sphere said...

One step ahead said...
uptownsteve said...
"Still, in the USA TODAY poll, only 38% of Americans say Obama definitely was born in the USA"

It's pretty serious when 62% of Americans aren't sure if the President was even born here.

Obama had to do something. If he didn't come up with that birth certificate, there is no way he would ever be reelected.

He must have been waiting until right before the election, but Trump forced his hand.

Either that, or the American people turning on him forced him to come up with a fake birth certificate.

Either way, he has defeated his enemies this time. Go President Obama!
.............

Your celebration shows just how dumb you are. This manipulation of the public is going to catch up with Obama long before the election.

The wound has been set. It's only a matter of time before he starts to stagger.

Anonymous said...

FakeAnon, why yes. We beleeve you. You are so honest and truthful-like and using 'sorces' and repeating lies as do good BrownVitters.
Let me get this...Davis wrote Lolita...a Just-So adventure tale for putative Rs...and you-all saw the similarities between 'Ann' and the President's Mom.
Well, that assumes you read. That you read that particular book. That you have enough familiarity with the Obama home life (from being a close relative or personal friend?) to make the claim that the author of a work of fiction was explicitly referring to this woman.
OR...you just making up poo.
I'll go with Occam on this one.

While I admit that I do strongly suspect that Momma Sarey took on the Down's Baby for her own reasons...it is not that uncommon.
It is rather statistically at variance to have wingnuts or Cons read books. It is even rarer that they read ones written by AfAms.
You can see I would follow the path of sense and assume you are simply following the orders of your Masters and spewing Gooberish.
While it is well beyond your ken, it does seem to POL (Piss Off Liberals) and that is all that matters to you.
Yes, I remember your Left Behind selves from school. It gave...and gives...me great pleasure to make more in a week than you do all year. It delights me to be invited to parties you can't even be hired to cater. It is sweet watching you forever be Left Behind...because you chose to be a jerkhole.
And your Masters...when was the last time they paid you? Do they even acknowledge you exist?
I only respond in the forlorn hope that one may grow up.
If you don't...I'll still be wealthier than you, live in a much better house in a much better neighbourhood than you, watch my kids go to better schools and colleges than yours, and you still cling to being a PITA.

Mold

Anonymous said...

MLK was Socialist. You should read History sometime.
Or, keep repeating Goober racist nonsense.

UTS, some questions.
Who was polled?
How were they polled?
What was the purpose of the poll?
How were the questions worded?

I seriously doubt that US citizens are that stoopid.

Mold

Pop goes the Weasel said...

mold said...Well, that assumes you read. That you read that particular book. That you have enough familiarity with the Obama home life (from being a close relative or personal friend?) to make the claim that the author of a work of fiction was explicitly referring to this woman.


The book was called Sex Rebel. In it, Frank Marshall Davis details how, among other exploits, he and his wife had sex with a 13 year old white girl named Ann. Coincidentally, Mr. Davis was at the time a close friend of Stanley Anne's father (Obama's grandpa).

If old Frank did get "Ann" pregnant, maybe Obama Sr. was only the daddy for birth certificate (hers) and Harvard attendance (his) reasons. That might explain why the family spilt up three weeks after the birth and Obama Sr. only saw little Barack once, for 30 minutes at the airport when Jr. was ten years old, and only because Sr. had flown back to Hawaii to see his old buddies (one of whom just got elected the Governor of Hawaii!).

Now that's a story where one might want to keep the details "fuzzy", right mold?

Weirder and weirder and weirder. Kind of like mold's world, only maybe it's true.

Carole said...

uptownsteve said...
>Anon

"It's pretty serious when 62% of Americans aren't sure if the President was even born here."

No idiot. 38% of the 1000 people USA today polled weren't sure he was born here.<


No uptown, I read the USA Today poll and they are right. Only 38% were sure he was born here. That means 62% were not sure.

Depressing.

Anonymous said...

FakeAnon, nice try. Google gives you the fantasy of being 'expert'. AIM.fake? Ummm....you might want to use a 'sorce' that hasn't pretty much lied since st reagan was a shill. Your choice of BrownVitter does witch hunts for apostates.
Yes, I understand you never read the book. That you are repeating drivel given to you by your Masters. Duh.
Heard this Gooberish before when your Masters order you to post against Darwin...or Marx. Neither of which you have read.
But, you are very willing to post 'critics' lies about the texts.
Your piece isn't even the Cliff Notes version.

Mold

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Anonymous said...

That is a very small sample. You can find 1000 losers anywhere in the US..if you look very diligently. Wonder who did the actual polling Lying Rasmussen? Brietbart Liars for Hire? The folks who tried to give the credit for OBL to bush?
Just look at the MSM, wetting their Vuitton Vitters over the concept of their tax rate being the same as icky working peasants.
1000 data points? That is the level of a Grade Five Science project in a public school...or Senior Theseus Project in a christian/cyber/charter skool. Why yes, a degree from Penn State is exactly the same as a degwee from the Revrunt BillySueJimBob University of College and Bible Readin'.

Mold

Anonymous said...

Is the racist armchair cowboy SPC now wishing for due process for Bin Laden who was responsible for at least 3,000 American murders?

Or is he just angry that the black Commander in Chief engineered his assassination and not the fake warrior Bush?

Lets try it slowly.

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld put the policies in place and developed the teams - Obama was against this.

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld took a lot of heat from the hypocritical incompetent liberals on steps they took towards protecting us - Obama and his ilk led the pack in the heat giving.

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld built, expanded funding and planned for the need for additional special forces and black ops teams - Obama and his ilk were against them and called them assination squads.

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld knew that when you deal with murderous terrorists who have no rules but to kill you that playing liberal cant think for fear of pain would not work, they knew that offering that murderer sympathy a cupcake and bowing to him would not make him like us, rather hate us more with disrespect so they waterboarded a few and got information.

Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld's information led to identifying the courier and let Obama know for "2 years!!" where Osama was living.

Obama's approval ratings are tanking because he is an abject failure, the economy is the worst in us history and all he can think of is to continue spending and attacking people without any real solutions.

Obama authorizes the 100 % white Seals (it doesnt matter to me, but your a racist) to go in and "KILL" Osama"

NOt sure why he didn't want him captured especially if he was unarmed as reported. Maybe its because he figured he could say he was dumped at sea and no one would ever know he probably died in the mountains under carpet bombing 9 years ago and Obama needs some deflection from Black Unemployment, illegal alien invasion and total chaos in the economy.





Thanks much!!!! I'm still tryin to understand how the left is cheering and supporting what Obama did.

What Obama did goes against everything the left stands for.


Doesn't the left believe in anything they preach to America?

Rudy said...

uptownsteve said...

SPC

"You claim to against the death penalty yet you apparently support this summary execution by our military without an due process extended to the deceased...

Awwwwwww Liberals and their double standards."

Talk about double standards?

Is the racist armchair cowboy SPC now wishing for due process for Bin Laden who was responsible for at least 3,000 American murders?

Or is he just angry that the black Commander in Chief engineered his assassination and not the fake warrior Bush?


Good job in identifying the angle.

Had this happened on Bush's watch, he/she would have been praising Bush.

I didn't hear these clowns when Saddam's sons were killed.

Mold Is Scum said...

Hey Mold.....why don't you enlighten us all as to just what a "Senior Theseus Project" is?

And you call other people dumb?

Rudy said...

I just heard a great point by Jonathan Alter on MSNBC:

The wingnuts want to give Bush credit for the killing of OBL; however, they don't want to give any blame for the current state of our economy.

He highlights the hypocrisy of the wingnuts, perfectly.

White Foreman said...

Here you go, black racist negroes:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110504/ap_on_re_us/us_bin_laden_geronimo

AP NewsBreak: Geronimo's tribe seeks apology

"Unlike the coward Osama bin Laden, Geronimo faced his enemy in numerous battles and engagements," Houser wrote. "He is perhaps one of the greatest symbols of Native American resistance in the history of the United States."

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Now this is one case where an apology is definitely in order, unlike the many lame-brained apologies to all minorities that have been the fashion lately.

Get on it quick, Obama.

It's also a good example of not only how dumb people can be, but also how supervisors can be equally stupid... like when they had the fighter jet tailing the passenger jet over NYC to take some video.

Anonymous said...

FakeAnon, did I point out the obvious? As far as you attempterating to find a flaw...it isn't. The usage was deliberate and for an effect.
If you don't get it...I can explain it, using very small words.

SPC, nice try...but your fibbing was alread shown to be lies earlier this week. The days of st reagan or bush lying without being Fact-Checked...are over. Your heroic hero ChickenHawks did very little to catch OBL...but oodles to enrich Cheney and give bush opportunities to play 'dress-up'.
Although I understand your underlying racist Goober need to claim it was wite dudez who accomplished and succeeded...they didn't. It was the community organizer with the non-royal birth.
Umm...those lies were 'refudiated' on Monday morning. By unpaid citizens. Who are tired of being lied to.
Would you like a list of Facts?

Mold

Rudy said...

Had the mission to kill failed, who the wingnuts try to give Bush credit...lol?

Dr. Nuwang said...

Rudy said...
I just heard a great point by Jonathan Alter on MSNBC:

The wingnuts want to give Bush credit for the killing of OBL; however, they don't want to give any blame for the current state of our economy.

He highlights the hypocrisy of the wingnuts, perfectly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I knew they'd find a way to spin this in their direction.

The only question is are the Democrats gonna let them get away with it like they do everything else.

Anonymous said...

or better yet, queef for us?

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