Monday, June 29, 2015

Before Dylann, there was Edgar.

Edgar Ray Killen was convicted
in 2005 of overseeing the 1964
slayings of three civil rights workers.Today is a good day to talk about Edgar Ray Killen, the unapologetic racist who was responsible for killing three civil rights workers in Mississippi back in 1964.

Sadly, there were many Dylann Roof types back then, and he was just one of them.  

Today he sits in jail after finally being convicted of that terrible crime.

"And he steadfastly refuses to discuss the “Freedom Summer” slayings of three civil rights workers, which sparked national outrage, helped spur passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and landed him behind bars.

Killen was interviewed by the Associated Press inside the Mississippi state penitentiary, where he is serving a 60-year sentence; it was his first interview since his conviction on state charges of manslaughter in 2005, 41 years to the day after James Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner were killed and buried in a red clay dam. An earlier trial in 1967, on federal charges, resulted in a mistrial.

Killen wouldn’t say much about the 1964 killings. He said he remains a segregationist who does not believe in race equality but contends he bears no ill will toward blacks.

The three civil rights workers – black Mississippian Chaney and white New Yorkers Schwerner and Goodman – were investigating the burning of a black church outside Philadelphia, Mississippi, when they were stopped on an accusation of speeding and held for hours in the Neshoba County jail. Witnesses testified that Killen rounded up carloads of Klansmen to intercept the three men upon their release and helped arrange for a bulldozer to hide the bodies.

The bodies were found 44 days later, buried miles away in a red-clay dam." [Source]

It's important to remember this monster because now, 50 years later, the kind of hate that drove him and others to do what they did , is still permeating throughout certain segments of the country.

Over the past few days at least six black churches have been burned to the ground, and we are all collectively sticking our heads in the sand as if it didn't happen.

Were it not for black twitter (shout out to the #WhoIsBurningBlackChurches? movement) these stories would be getting even less publicity than they are now. It's sad, but the story has to actually get worse before the producers at cable news networks will have the courage to put stories like this front and center.

Look, we get it, a lot of Americans have Negro fatigue, so stories about black churches being burned to the ground just won't get their attention.  It's just too depressing to think that the country we love and cherish is going through this. Heck we are just getting over what happened in Charleston for crying out loud. Leave us alone!!!

Field, you don't even go to church, why do you care so much about these churches burning?

Because I understand the importance and historical significance of the church in the black community. And because church folks are such a forgiving bunch that I am sure that whoever is doing this will get nothing but love and another cheek from my church going brothers and sisters.

"Chaney’s sister, the Rev Julia Chaney Moss of Willingboro, New Jersey, said she was not surprised Killen wouldn’t talk about the slayings.

“I can only wish Mr. Killen peace at this juncture in his life ... If he can achieve a modicum of peace, I wish that for him,” Chaney said."

See what I mean?

Anyway, I sure hope that Rev. Julia and others at least believe in Proverbs 20:22.

~Do not say, "I'll pay you back for this wrong!" Wait for the LORD, and he will avenge you.~

Hurry Lord, we are getting tired of waiting.  








 





    

51 comments:

Anonymous said...

Fake, lying story - no klansmen are burning churches down.

You really don't think of much of your people, do you Field?

KaJo said...

Coward Anonymous above, no one mentioned Klansmen, not even in the linked story. A little too defensive, aren't you? Clearly, though, the arsonists have evil in their hearts.

BTW, Field, when you said, "Look, we get it, a lot of Americans have Negro fatigue, so stories about black churches being burned to the ground just won't get their attention", my opinion is that it's only the American mainstream media that has "Negro fatigue".

From what I've seen on my Twitter feed (admittedly a bit left of center), we're willing to talk about these stories long after they stop trending on Twitter. (pardon the slight snark about trending)

Limpbaugh said...

I haven't been able to enter comments. I was getting a NOT FOUND 404 error message.

Cibil Rights said...

Field must be jealous of the homos getting all the attention, and he wants to take us back to 1964. "Oooh da kklan be comin', deys right outside the window! Gonna snatch yo black ass and string yo up da nearest tree! Dat was klan lightning what burnt dat church down!"

Anonymous said...

Field, please check why I keep getting a 404 error message during the past three threads when trying to post a comment.

lilacpr2000 said...

I was also getting that ERROR 404 message.

Anonymous said...

Why now is Field trotting out stories of the dark days of the KKK? Why does he try to blame church fires on invisible white racists? Why does Dylan Roof's insanity mean the South must give up its symbols? There seems to be a coordinated campaign in the media to malign southern whites, not just the steady ridicule and vitriol that has been a feature of the last 50 years but now a more open, aggresive hostility, a blood frenzy brought on by the easy victories of progressivism.

The Adminstrator said...

lilacpr2000 said...
I was also getting that ERROR 404 message
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ERROR 404 is for comments that are too stupid to publish.

Epicaric said...

The antipathy of America’s urban elite to all things rural bubbles close to the surface, particularly so to Southerners. It was not so long ago that the South, and particularly its Appalachian arc, represented an authenticity that elicited sympathy and a desire to do good works to help these downtrodden souls. They were powerless, without moral agency and without sin. Art was always a powerful and motivating force within the battalions of Northeastern altruists. Realist photography, black & white with deep contrast, was avantguard, and gaunt-faced, cotton-smocked mothers, surrounded by barefoot children called to them. Black-faced coal miners tugged at their heart strings.

But that was before the war, and before store-bought clothes and shoes, and mobile homes. The post-war industrial revolution came to the South, and with it came synthetic fibers and cheap T-shirts, televisions and plastic lawn furniture, fast food and obesity. Honey Boo-Boo would come later, but the aesthetic of poverty had been lost. They now had moral agency. The children and grandchildren of the field hands and the sharecroppers, with their rednecks and hunting rifles and pickup trucks were…unattractive; And so they were given back their moral agency. We do not like them now. No, WE do not like THEM at all.

The Battle Flag evolved to become their symbol, for most, an unconscious reaction to percolating Northeastern antipathy. They were rebelling, and the old rebel flag was a ready symbol.

We found new poor people; brown people. If they have a drawl, we can’t hear it. If they like to hunt, or watch Miel Boo-Boo, we don’t know. We flip past Telemundo and the Sabado Gigante Sunday extravaganza on our way to public television, far to the south on the dial. They come into our lives as passive gardeners and housemaids, or remain largely unseen on the margins, on that other side of the city. If they have desires and tastes and preferences that we find ghastly, we don’t know. They are good, and simple. They are authentic. They are from Managua and Oaxaca, and how interesting! They have no moral agency. WE like them. We like THEM very much.

PilotX said...

Funny, if you don't care about stories about blah churches being burned and how they are similar to the same events in the past maybe just maybe this isn't the site for you. You will continue to see posts about similar stories every few weeks so if that isn't your cup of tea feel free to move along. No hard feelings.

Mumia Abu-Jamal said...

"Killen wouldn’t say much about the 1964 killings. He said he remains a segregationist who does not believe in race equality but contends he bears no ill will toward blacks."

Sounds like a pretty reasonable, nice guy to me.

"Move on", that's my motto.

field negro said...

Sorry about those 404 error messages folks.
Apparently it's a thing. Something about permalinks blah blah blah.

Having my tech guy look into it for me.

Thanks for hanging with me while we go through these issues.

Kinky_Con said...

"Over the past few days at least six black churches have been burned to the ground, and we are all collectively sticking our heads in the sand as if it didn't happen."


Maybe we are all not rushing to judgement like blahs tell us we shouldn't do when blacks commit violence against whites.


And besides, hasn't 3 of those cases been deemed non-arson? Lighting and electrical?



Stop the persecution rhetoric, indeed.....

Kinky_Con said...

field negro said...

Sorry about those 404 error messages folks.
Apparently it's a thing. Something about permalinks blah blah blah.



That's what happens to you when you link to all those fringe,kook leftwing sites.

uptownsteve said...

Since the Charleston massacre on June 17th, I've been perusing some righwing websites, particularly Breitbart.com and there is a lot of talk about race war and insurrection against the government which has been usurped by a "mongrel negro" and such. I'm certain that for the most part it's just keyboard testosterone by some racist punks but there may be another Dylann Roof out there.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why now is Field trotting out stories of the dark days of the KKK? Why does he try to blame church fires on invisible white racists? Why does Dylan Roof's insanity mean the South must give up its symbols? There seems to be a coordinated campaign in the media to malign southern whites, not just the steady ridicule and vitriol that has been a feature of the last 50 years but now a more open, aggresive hostility, a blood frenzy brought on by the easy victories of progressivism.

11:50 PM
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The dark days of the KKK still are around Those burnings of black churches raises fears for Blacks who have had, and continue to be terrorized by Whites who feel they must either kill Blacks in churches or burn their churches down.

Your lack of understanding of racism in America is astonishing. With the recent murders of nine Blacks in church doing Bible study and praying Roof shot dead people studying the Word of God...simply because they were Black human beings and not White like you.

Of course, someone who posts a comment like yours could care less about the lives of Blacks, or even justice for Blacks. Everybody on the planet gets that about so many Whites like yourself.

Anonymous said...

"Maybe we are all not rushing to judgement like blahs tell us we shouldn't do when blacks commit violence against whites."

Whites never rush to judgment about Blacks. In fact, you just don't give a damn. We get that. However, Blacks have 'real' fears about burning of their churches, bombing of their churches, and being murdered in their churches. It's an historic pattern in America. It's called White racism.

But again, Blacks get it that Whites of your ilk don't really care. BTW, black lives have nothing to do with rightwing or leftwing. It has to do with the lives of precious love ones, our families.

anotherbozo said...

Does the whole country have access to Al Jazeera yet? The Arab Channel in America provides coverage that you don't always find on the "sanitized" news networks. They have American corporate advertisers, sure, but somehow they don't seem to have their news circumscribed by focus groups' interests.

"Negro fatigue"--useful concept. I wanted to believe that at least the younger generation was outgrowing our legacy of bigotry, but here's some sobering news:

http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2015/06/23/millennials-are-no-less-racist-than-generation-x-hardly-different-from-boomers/

I wanted to hang on to what seemed like progress, represented by the hip young (often biracial) kids of NYC, as some kind of polyculturalist vanguard, but this article says not so fast.

Anonymous said...

It looks like Puerto Rico is the next Greece when it comes to defaulting on debt. For the life of me, I don't know why the people of that country did not vote to become a state. Now they are totally eff'd.

Man, I'd hate to be living there.

Anonymous said...

anotherbozo, thanks for the link that compared each white generation's prejudice toward Blacks.

It does not surprise me that Millennials think no differently than baby boomers about Blacks. After all, they come from same families and prejudices and thoughts get passed down generation after generation.

What would be really interesting is to see research done about how Blacks view themselves. My guess is the views of Blacks 'about' Blacks are very much similar to Whites. Of course, there will be a percentage of exceptions, but the larger percentage will probably be the same.

PilotX said...

Looks like the klan is planning a rally to support the confederate flag. That should be a good visual for those who support the flag or treason. Of course it's about "heritage" and the klan didn't let us down showing us what heritage they're talking about.

uptownsteve said...

I think that "poll" is highly suspect. Among the 30 and under people I come in contact with race is much less an issue than with older people. Far more interracial relationships and friendships. Many 30 and unders have seen black people in positions of authority all of their lives as well as many having worked under blacks so they are hardly likely to accept the negative racial stereotypes of earlier generations. And outside of African Americans, Obama's largest constituency was the youth vote.

Virginia said...

“Many 30 and unders have seen black people in positions of authority all of their lives as well as many having worked under blacks so they are hardly likely to accept the negative racial stereotypes of earlier generations.”

Uptownsteve, okay accept the negative racial realities of this generation.

Many, huh? Not enough. My husband works for a large firm and he has made it to the top. You know what, it’s lonely up there. He’s usually the only minority at any given meeting. When you make it to the top come back and let us know what it looks like.

Bill said...


The FieldNegro said...
in Mississippi back in 1964.


1964 and still no mention of dumbocrats.

The Purple Cow said...

The one trick pony rides again.

#WhiteLivesMatter said...

"Your lack of understanding of racism in America is astonishing. With the recent murders of nine Blacks in church doing Bible study and praying Roof shot dead people studying the Word of God...simply because they were Black human beings and not White like you."

No, I understand racism in America very well:

https://heartiste.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/interracegraph.jpg?w=632&h=773

But in fact, white-on-black crime is a statistical rarity. According to data from the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS), an estimated 320,082 whites were victims of black violence in 2010, while 62,593 blacks were victims of white violence. That same year, according to the Census Bureau, the white and black populations in the U.S. were 196,817,552 and 37,685,848, respectively. Whites therefore committed acts of interracial violence at a rate of 32 per 100,000, while the black rate was 849 per 100,000. In other words, the “average” black was statistically 26.5 times more likely to commit criminal violence against a white, than vice versa. Moreover, blacks who committed violent crimes chose white victims 47.7% of the time, whereas whites who committed violent crimes targeted black victims only 3.9% of the time.

Bill said...


Portrait of Pope Benedict XVI Made of Condoms Draws Complaints in Milwaukee
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/06/29/portrait-of-pope-benedict-xvi-made-of-condoms-draws-complaints-in-milwaukee/?src=twr&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0

If drawing pictures of Mohammad is offensive and shouldn't be allowed, why is insulting other religions acceptable.

If not for double standards, dumbocrats wouldn't have any standards at all.

Bill said...


The Lying Purple Cow said...
The one trick pony rides again.


I see the training is going well.

I don;t even need to ring the bell to make you respond to me anymore.


Thanks LyingPurpleCow.

The Purple Cow said...

"If drawing pictures of Mohammad is offensive and shouldn't be allowed, why is insulting other religions acceptable."

Insulting all religions is acceptable.

Where is the double standard in that?

Anonymous said...

"Where is the double standard in that?"

The New York Times, which refused to run any images of Mohammad claiming it was because they simply would not run pictures that offended any religious group, ran a picture of the Pope made out of condoms yesterday.

Yīshēng said...

@ Virginia, one of the most stressful gigs I've EVER had was a Lab Director some years back. Black folks don't warn you the the higher you go up the ladder, the harder it is due in large part to racism. Throw female gender in there and now you've REALLY got some stress!!

Anonymous said...

@ Yisheng: It's called the "Peter Principle". Look it up.

Kinky_Con said...

Yīshēng said...

@ Virginia, one of the most stressful gigs I've EVER had was a Lab Director some years back. Black folks don't warn you the the higher you go up the ladder, the harder it is due in large part to racism. Throw female gender in there and now you've REALLY got some stress!!


12:42 PM



Anonymous said...

@ Yisheng: It's called the "Peter Principle". Look it up.

12:47 PM



It's called the "I've used Affirmative Action,racial quotas and lower standards to help me up the ladder. The higher i gets, the less i can use my privilege to help me advance. I am treated like everyone else. This seems like racism to me. Which stresses me out causing my weave to itch. Which in turn i scratch. Which in turn causes sores on my head. Which in turn cause my hair to fall out. Which in turn brings out the Keisha principle..



The Purple Cow said...

"If drawing pictures of Mohammad is offensive and shouldn't be allowed, why is insulting other religions acceptable."

Insulting all religions is acceptable.

Where is the double standard in that?




“We do not normally publish images...intended to offend religious sensibilities."-New York Times


Right here.

Bill said...


Kinky_Con said...
"Where is the double standard in that?"

“We do not normally publish images...intended to offend religious sensibilities."-New York Times

Right here.


Don't confuse LyingPurpleCow with facts.

Anonymous said...

THE NYT is just a direct reflection of the liberal mindset. It's okay to offend Christians because you know they believe in free speech for the most part. But offending Muslims is a no- no because you might get your head lobbed off for it. In other words- hypocritical cowards.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous #WhiteLivesMatter said...
"Your lack of understanding of racism in America is astonishing. With the recent murders of nine Blacks in church doing Bible study and praying Roof shot dead people studying the Word of God...simply because they were Black human beings and not White like you."

whitelivesmatter replied "No, I understand racism in America very well:"

No you don't. You are too much of a racist against Blacks to understand. You can track down all the stats you want and use them to justify your racist point. But it's still your way of rationalizing your racist attitude by looking at the fault of Blacks. That doesn't change the fact that you are an evil racist.

However, I empathize with your dilemma: "Ignorance is bliss."

The Purple Cow said...

"“We do not normally publish images...intended to offend religious sensibilities."-New York Times


Right here."



But Bill, that wasn't the question I asked now was it, you dumb shit.

uptownsteve said...

Virginia,

Unless you and your hubby live in Idaho somewhere I doubt if you are the only successful black professionals to be found. In my community I see black excellence and to tier professionals everyday. When you gain a little pride and self-love then come back and talk to me.

Anonymous said...

Self love is uptown's specialty

Yīshēng said...

KKKKuckoo, more likely it was the graduate degree from one of the top 5 graduate departments in my field. Or maybe the "priviledge" of having also graduated from a college attended by a president and a few Senators. Hard work and professionalism played a role too because that's how Black success rolls.

But you wouldn't know anything about that because you spend your days here, posting under various usernames and many times, none at all.

BTW, do you Whooteemoos realized how strenously UNbothered most successful Blacks are that people like you attribute our success to affirmative action? We laugh our Black asses all the way to the bank, then to our german cars, and back to our lovely homes where you couldn't be hired to manicure our lawns.

Johnny Doublewide said...

Yīshēng said...
"BTW, do you Whooteemoos realized how strenously UNbothered most successful Blacks are that people like you attribute our success to affirmative action?"

Why yes, your amoral parasitism is well-known among the readers of this blog. Although there is probably also a component of outright clueless stupidity at play in your inability to see what a joke your 'career' has been, as evidenced by the use of constructions like "strenously UNbothered" and believing that taking a crap on the same toilet a President and few Senators did somehow makes you smarter.

You really should get back to work, those beakers aren't going to scrub themselves.

#Winning

Limpbaugh said...

There's a lot of good comments! Some pretty funny stuff.

Virginia said...

"Unless you and your hubby live in Idaho somewhere I doubt if you are the only successful black professionals to be found. In my community I see black excellence and to tier professionals everyday. When you gain a little pride and self-love then come back and talk to"

Try an affluent neighborhood in Arlington, Va. I don't know what a "to tier" professional is. I do know that in MOST firms, such as the one my husband works for, minority partners make up 2%. That means 98% is _______? Won't speak to your idiotic statement about pride and self-love.

Look, you're noticing black excellent in your community. At the same time many, maybe most, deal with unfair roadblocks based on race. These roadblocks translate into money, promotion, wealth, opportunity, etc. Stick around for a while and listen, don't react, to the issues posted. And certainly listen to the creepy and hateful comments from real people that live and work amongst us.

uptownsteve55 said...

Virginia,

I meant "top tier". It was a typo. I will be the first to acknowledge racism and discrimination in hiring and promotions. Hell, I've experienced it. But I keep on keepin on. However since you live in the Washington, DC metro area, don't tell me you don't see black professionals regularly.

Anonymous said...

What would you drive cars made and designed by white men? Why don't you support your brothas and sisters and buy one of those high end African sports cars?


Haha haha just kidding. We all know that the only use Africans have for tires is to stuff them over someone's head and then light them on fire.

High end African sports car! Wouldn't that be a sight to see? Hilarious to even think that's possible.

uptownsteve55 said...

Yisheng sez:

"BTW, do you Whooteemoos realized how strenously UNbothered most successful Blacks are that people like you attribute our success to affirmative action? We laugh our Black asses all the way to the bank, then to our german cars, and back to our lovely homes where you couldn't be hired to manicure our lawns."

You tell 'em my sista. There is a reason why these racist anonymous heeyucks troll black websites and hurl taunts.

They're powerless losers who use their keyboards as testosterone.

focusedpurpose said...

dear educated people:

Black Americans are not Ham...

nor the people of the land mass named after european colonizer: Africa.

we are Shem...

the Hebrews who fled to that land mass to escape persecution.

this is how folk are confused + lie "Africans" sold other "Africans."

such is not the case. "Africans" were selling Hebrews of Scripture.

question: are the burned churches praying to white Jesus on sun day? these seem to believe they are Gentiles and do the most pagan things annually.

that might explain a few things...

then there are also SUPER ticked off white folk,that believe BO is Black. 'cause some White women birth the Black nation. folk are what their fathers are, right? one drop rule!

they also are livid with all the Black on White crime that goes unreported by the media. they should calm down though. folk don't address the Black on Black crime either. not sure who decides what is a major story. but folk would only need to tell the Truth to see a certain theme. fanning race war flames. may the goyim take themselves OUT.

side note: there are some folk prepping to shoot it out with DOJ militarized cops. like they missed the stockpiled ammunition reports.

what i want to know is what is wrong with the Black folk singing about gun control? like THAT makes a bit of sense or factors in historical perspective. i don't suggest folk go to shooting at others.

but others need to know they run the risk of being shot- when peace works not.

i pray for ALL nations.

lol.

Blessings all!

field negro said...

"You can track down all the stats you want and use them to justify your racist point"

Not "track down", I think you meant make up.

Anonymous said...

Actually, they are official FBI stats from 2013. Obama's FBI.

https://heartiste.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/interracegraph.jpg?w=632&h=773

Yīshēng said...

Johnny Doublewide said..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

FINALLY, a whooteemoo speaks to the truth about his families BMI AND their living quarters!!!!

BAWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Paula Laflamme said...

Hey Field, long time no type. It's no big deal but you should at least know that this honk posted about the church burnings the moment I read about them. Plenty of other honks have too. Not enough, but not none either. Hey. I like your new thingy. I hate when you have to guess the letters to prove you're not a robot.