Let me start this post by saying that the authorities in Louisiana did the right thing in charging those two police officers in the shooting death of that six year old boy. If it turns out that they acted appropriately they will be vindicated, if not, they will suffer the consequences for their actions.
I have said over and over that being a police officer is a tough job, and we can't have people on the force who, for whatever reason, do not act appropriately or are not properly trained.
For the record, the six year old boy was white and the two police officers charged were African Americans. If you are an African American and you are not as passionate about getting justice for this poor child's family shame on you. If you are from the majority population and you never questioned the conduct of the police when the races are reversed but do now, well then shame on you as well.
"We took some of the body cam footage. I'm not gonna talk about it, but I'm gonna tell you this -- it is the most disturbing thing I've seen and I will leave it at that," State Police Col. Michael Edmonson said at a news conference late Friday. "That little boy was buckled into the front seat of that vehicle and that is how he died."
Sad indeed. But it is not the "most disturbing thing" that I have ever seen when it comes to police misconduct, but I do hope that it will be the last.
Finally, congrats to the football players of the University of Missouri for displaying true field Negro behavior. I love when athletes who are in a high profile position become socially active and use their influence and power to try and influence social change."Black football players at the University of Missouri have joined calls demanding the ouster of the president of the state's four-campus university system over alleged inaction against racism on campus.
About 30 players made their thoughts known Saturday night in a tweet posted by Missouri's Legion of Black Collegians.
The athletes of color on the University of Missouri football team truly believe "Injustice Anywhere is a threat to Justice Everywhere," read the tweet. "We will no longer participate in any football related activities until President Tim Wolfe resigns or is removed due to his negligence toward marginalized students' experience."
The players' move is the latest salvo in a spiraling debate over the experiences of African-American students at Missouri, who have complained of inaction on the part of school leaders in dealing with racism on the overwhelmingly white campus.
Black student leaders have complained of students openly using racial slurs and other incidents. In August, someone used feces to draw a swastika, drawing condemnation from black and Jewish student organizations.
One student is on a hunger strike demanding action. Graduate student Jonathan L. Butler started the hunger strike last week, demanding Wolfe's removal." [More]
Good for these players. Maybe they can force these institutions who profit from their athleticism to get serious about addressing similar concerns in the future.
*Pic from stltoday.com
92 comments:
gary pinkel, the missouri coach, is on board with the strike too.
Yes the authorities In Louisiana did the right thing, but I just would like to see the authorities elsewhere do the same right thing!
Kudos to the players, now of only all of the other professional sports would do like wise...
Brother Field, the arrest of those two officers came immediately because they were two AAs and the child was White. Everybody can see that.
Hell, when a white cop shoots a black kid he is not arrested immediately. He is put on administrative leave WITH PAY. AND, this is most important...The Chief of police doesn't indict his officers on TV.
Of course, we all know you are a fan of Louisiana. I am not. LA is one of the most racist states in America. They hate Blacks so much there that even a dark skinned man from India is considered White next to a bm. That kind of racial mentality is very 'unique' to LA. That is, everybody that is NOT AA, is considered White. LA is the only Southern State that thinks like that.
Go Figure.... Anyway, they have condemned two black officers BEFORE they knew 'why'. If those officers were White that would have NEVER happened. It would have been an entirely different scene.
I hope Mr. Field Negro is correct when he says that the facts will play out and justice will be served.
@Anonymous, you are of course correct with regards to the Eric Garner and Tamir Rice incidents. In the Walter Scott incident though, the authorities have acted appropriately, similar to the incident in question here. Let's give credit where it is due and condemnation where appropriate as well.
Bill: Dumbocrats, dumbocrats, dumbocrats
Josh: Waaaaahhhhhh!! I'm white! I'M the victim! Waaaaahhhhh!!!
"I hope Mr. Field Negro is correct when he says that the facts will play out and justice will be served."
Mr Field is rarely correct. He seems to have a twisted sense of what 'facts' are, let alone 'justice'.
Those two officers have already been condemned in the media and even more so by their own police chief, along with Mr Field, of course.
I sometimes wonder 'where' Mr Field got his law degree and whether it was an affirmative action thing.
As a wm, I am outraged at the way the chief did his own men. I wonder if he would have reacted in the same way if they had been white? The answer is "NO".
Hell, the cop who killed Eric Garner is still a policeman on the same beat in NYC. Of course, the cop was White and the murdered man was Black. That seems to make all the difference in the world when it comes to Justice in America.
From what I understand, a lot of people make a lot of money off of college football but the players are forbidden from profiting off of their own performance. Or at least that's what they were saying a couple of years ago when I was reading about it.
If these guys are trying to get something real from their efforts, that seems only fair (if I have the story right), and if it's something positive and for the greater good, they should be commended.
-Doug in Oakland
@Anonymous 10:46PM -
All the difference? Not always. Officer Slager received similar treatment in the Walter Scott incident. Of course in that case the whole thing was on video that everyone has witnessed, so you could say there was no choice. Still, you can't have it both ways. You cannot condemn the police chief in this case for throwing his men under the bus and at the same time decry that Pantaleo and the other thugs in uniform in Staten Island are still on the beat.
Of course they want to make an example of Black officers, but that doesn't have jack $hit with justice being served.
If the victim had been Black or the officers White and the child Black, we all know the end result would have been different. NO ARREST OR CHARGES!!!
Field you're a bigger coon than I thought. Good job on those cops arrest. If the tables were turned that killing would have been justified.
"Finally, congrats to the football players of the University of Missouri for displaying true field Negro behavior."
Because "true field Negro behavior" means acting like a baby over absolutely nothing.
Someone (black, white, Jew, airline pilot - who knows?) drew a shit swastika on a bathroom stall three months ago. Is that racist, or just weird and disgusting? Who writes anything in shit?
Apparently, the University President's failure to get the FBI or Interpol or CSI SVU to solve this heinous crime means he needs to resign. Seriously.
Now black students, who attend the university for free on full scholarships, are going on "strike" until they are catered to even more. It's an easy way to deflect from the fact you are 1-5 in the SEC East, or from the fact you can't cut it academically in an institution that admitted you because of your race.
What an absolute joke the whole idea of "civil rights" has become.
And what a joke you are cheering on these morons.
Anonymous Lance Cockstrong said...
@Anonymous 10:46PM -
All the difference? Not always. Officer Slager received similar treatment in the Walter Scott incident. Of course in that case the whole thing was on video that everyone has witnessed, so you could say there was no choice. Still, you can't have it both ways. You cannot condemn the police chief in this case for throwing his men under the bus and at the same time decry that Pantaleo and the other thugs in uniform in Staten Island are still on the beat.
11:29 PM
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Yeah, it was on tape and it showed the cop planting evidence in addition to shooting a bm in cold blood. So yeah, Slager there was video to prove it. However, there are countless cases where there was no video. And guess what? NO COPS CONVICTED!!
Of course, this is a 'special' case because a white six-year old was killed BY BLACK COPS. Yep, those Negroes are going to pay. Hell, even if the kid wasn't there they hit the wm and that in itself would bring an investigation. I am amazed that they shot any bullets at anyone White in LA.
Of course, Negroes like Field said they got what they deserved. And he did it just like the chief did: WITHOUT FACTUAL EVIDENCE.
Yep, even if these two Negroes were in the right, they are going to pay. It sets a good example for cops to do a better job. That is, Black Cops had better watch themselves because the justice the wm talks about is 'injustice' to Blacks.
That murderous cop who killed Eric Garner is free and he was on tape. The grand jury let him go. You can bet your sweet ass that grand jury in LA, which will be all White will find those cops "guilty". With their Chief convicting them on TV and Mr Field convicting them on FIELD NEGRO, there is no way those bm are going to get justice.
Anonymous Martin Luther Ming the Merciless said...
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forget what he had to say, who would name himself "Martin Luther Ming the Merciless"?
A merciless racist jackass, that's who. Btw, what 'institution' did you go to?
"Q-Less State"? just kidding from one white brother to another.
Justice comes swiftly to black cops. It is awfully weird that they weren't put on administrative leave and there would be a hush hush while an investigation proceeded.
Nope. It didn't happen in this case. Am I the only one who thinks this case stinks?
The delusional nature of Black people is illustrated very well here.
"Hell, when a white cop shoots a black kid he is not arrested immediately. He is put on administrative leave WITH PAY."
Six officers (including 3 Whites) were fired AND INDICTED FOR MURDER in the death of Freddy Gray, despite evidence that Gray's injuries were his own fault. Ofc. Michael Slager was indicted for murder despite evidence that Walter Scott had gotten hold of his taser and fired it at him.
As of the latest news I can find (September), Slager had not been granted bail after 5 months in jail.
"AND, this is most important...The Chief of police doesn't indict his officers on TV."
The Bodymore, Murderlan... er, Baltimore, Maryland officers were indeed indicted as part of a public-relations spectacle, as was Slager.
"Anyway, they have condemned two black officers BEFORE they knew 'why'."
If "why" mattered to you when a Black was shot, neither Slager nor the 6 Baltimore officers would have been so much as fired. In this case, the "what" is damning:
- No reason for so much as a traffic stop.
- No reason for use of force.
- Killing a completely innocent passenger, a mere child.
Total LOL at MLMtM at 12:34! Hope to see more from you!
Mr James Bold, I really don't think we have much of a chance with you against the cause of equality. Tell me, what does a brother have to do to win you over?
I wait, holding my breath, waiting to exhale. And I know all FN fans are holding their breaths too.
Mr Bold, I know you have a price. Everybody has a price...at least that's what the wm tells me.
Can't we get a brother to smack James Bold around? Where's UptownSteve?
I sincerely hope that sorry-ass Josh didn't run him away. If he did, then Josh is a racist, pure and simple.
Happens all the time, Sandra Bland was stopped for no reason as are many blah folks across the country. And since I have you here James can you answer a few questions. Do you have a college degree? Are there many whites who think as you do or are you an anamoly? Thanks for your answers.
Good for the brothas on the Mizzou football team. I used to road trip there back in the day. Missouri is quite special, a state full of James Bolds.
"Can't we get a brother to smack James Bold around?"
Since I am licenced to carry concealed and do so 99% of the time, said "brother" would be extremely likely to wind up wounded or dead. If you can find volunteers for this... no, I doubt you can.
"Missouri is quite special, a state full of James Bolds."
I have neither lived nor worked in Missouri, so I cannot say. But I hope the populace tells the moronic, entitled Feets-ball players of the so-called "universities" to get the hell out and stop polluting the educational mission of the institutions with their worthless racial demands. Nobody needs them for anything besides public spectacles... maybe not even those.
"I sincerely hope that sorry-ass Josh didn't run him away. If he did, then Josh is a racist, pure and simple."
Uptownsteve is objectively a disturbed individual. Only because he's ideologically simpatico with the "struggle" of black folks likening themselves to literal slaves in the field do people around here ignore the signs of this, of which there have been plenty presented. If he were a white poster, or someone whose ideology didn't make him a welcomed part of the in-group, he would be called out here daily. All I did was tell the true story of Steve Fair AKA Carlos AKA DarkStar AKA a half dozen other names.
And what does it matter? None of you believe it. The evidence can be found in five minutes of independent research. But we all know collectivists have a bond with confirmation bias that gets down to a molecular level. Field instantly dismissed it as a lie, and 5'll get ya 10 he can't be bothered to actually know the truth one way or the other. He'll believe it's a lie because he wants to. And by the same standard he believes something's racist: Black victim = racism = it speaks for itself. Same goes with the rest. Y'all will act as if it's just another example of a white man unfairly accusing the black man of something.
Steve's got no reason to be chased away. I tell the factual account of his goings-on, and it's chalked up to white wingnuts lying on a brotha. Y'all would count it as a win for him to even come back and threaten to rape my wife or to kill my cracka ass family.
Fucking geniuses, all. No doubt without the impediment of white people, you'd have already achieved time travel and wormholes and the like.
PilotX said...
Happens all the time, Sandra Bland was stopped for no reason as are many blah folks across the country
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No, Mr. Slow on the Uptake, she was stopped for her own good, as she had her dumb ass walking in the road with traffic, wearing headphones, and far enough out in the lane she was causing traffic to slow down/back up behind her.
The police politely asked her to walk on the other side of the road, with traffic so that she could see oncoming cars.
Being the entitled grievance-monger she is, she acted like a fool and then decided to lie and try make herself the kind of racial victim media hero that is so popular these days. Unfortunately for her, the entire encounter was recorded. But that doesn't stop idiots from you from continuing to champion her lies, and it probably won't even get her fired, because she is black, and in Obama's America, black people aren't even expected to tell the truth or follow the law.
The FieldNegro said...
being a police officer is a tough job
No allegations of racism being involved even though no one knows a reason for the shooting? Not the politically correct type of racism?
Maybe they can force these institutions who profit from their athleticism to get serious about addressing similar concerns in the future.
If the schools aren't doing anything about 1 in 5 girls being sexually assaulted why do you believe this will change?
Without the NRA/tea party to blame nothing needs to be changed.
I am disturbed by James Bold and his degrading attitude toward African Americans. I wonder if he believes we were created by God? just wondering how a man can have such an ugly heart?
I also wonder if Josh and James Bold are the same person or related?
"Someone (black, white, Jew, airline pilot - who knows?) drew a shit swastika on a bathroom stall three months ago. Is that racist, or just weird and disgusting? Who writes anything in shit?"
Is that how they knew the swastika was meant to be racist against blacks, because it was drawn in shit?
Dumb ass 10:15am, Sandra Bland was the driver stopped in Texas not the young lady walking. And these racist trolls have the nerve to call someone else slow? Try to understand what you're talking about before commenting.
I'm shocked, James Bold carries a gun everywhere he goes. A bit paranoid/cowardly are we?
Still didn't answer my questions James, why is that?
James, you criticize blah college students, do you have a college degree?
Do you think many whites have the same racist views as yourself or are you in a small minority?
Thanks.
"But that doesn't stop idiots from you from continuing to champion her lies"
This imbecile can't even master the English language. Field have you outsourced your trolls? If not our racist trolls are getting dumber if that's even possible. Other than the glaring grammar mistakes I have never even mentioned the case he accuses me of championing but I'll just chalk that up to the fact racists aren't too bright. Better luck next time Ming with your facts and use of language.
PilotX said...
Dumb ass 10:15am, Sandra Bland was the driver stopped in Texas not the young lady walking
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My bad. It's hard to keep up with all the daily outrage stories. All these whiny negresses start to look alike.
The point remains - it's 90% bullshit.
And thanks for the spell check edits. I hope you are as useful to your employer.
"Someone (black, white, Jew, airline pilot - who knows?) drew a shit swastika on a bathroom stall three months ago. Is that racist, or just weird and disgusting? Who writes anything in shit?"
Someone emotionally disturbed and mentally deranged. There is nothing to be done for someone of that character. What he did was Satanic....He practices Satanism.
If FN is a measure of the American population then there are more than expected who use feces as a symbol of their way of life.
No, your point does not remain. You had no point. And yes, I am very useful in my occupation. I have to safely transport over 200 passengers to popular foreign cities. Been doing that very well for several years. Next time pay more attention and don't come at me unless you have your facts straight but I don't expect much from whiny racist white males. Your bunch isn't too bright.
Dear Mr Field, and FN posters,
Have any of you wondered why people come to FN to comment 'for' or 'against' racism? I mean, is anyone enriched by the experience?
Just asking because most comments are depressing as hell. There seems to be an underlying theme: Humans are hateful, blaming, resentful, fearful and hurtful.
It seems that we are doomed to self-destruct; we seem to prefer it to harmonious living. Such perverse minds and dark hearts can only be, as Dr. Ben Carson would say, "The work of the devil."
Of course, many on FN have cast out the belief or experience of the Divine, which leaves only Satan himself as the winner of the human race. Since the beginning, the human race has always headed toward doing wrong.
They say, "The end is near for us." Well, when I read the comments here, I believe it. There is not 'one' enlightened soul on this blog.
depressed negro
Most of y'all here probably have a better grasp on this story than I do. But can anyone answer a couple of very simple questions?
What, exactly, did these students want done about a swastika on the wall?
Did they know who did it yet the school wouldn't punish them? Was it ever found that the person who found it didn't do it himself for the publicity (there have certainly been plenty of those)? Did black students just want white scalps to hang on the wall? Why are blacks offended by something that's antisemitic? What are these "groups"? Why did someone's career--and potentially life--need to literally be ruined because of a symbol found?
Main question I'm pondering: Why, when every fucking person there has a cell phone or tablet, etc, are none of these slurs ever caught? We see what happens when they are, like those white kids on the bus singing their racist anthem. I'm not saying that black students are making shit up. I'm just wondering what they really expect to happen when they cannot present evidence of a thing.
These are college students. These are supposedly bright young men and women, and yet they are literally demanding a "listen and believe" standard, protesting to get their way and to ruin people's lives...because reasons.
What a lesson it's teaching people for their lives that you don't need evidence when you levy an accusation. All you need is to show up and make noise, and people cave to your selfish whims. We're not talking about blacks who weren't allowed in the school or had to drink from separate fountains, etc. This first-world problem shit is hilarious. "Swastika on the wall. WHITE PEOPLE NEED TO BE FIRED! Hunger strike! Protest! Stop playing football!"
Good job. Geniuses, all. I don't suspect this university is graduating any legal experts or innovators in their field. Probably a bunch of "social" degrees that lead to unemployment, like those gender studies degrees that are in 0 demand per workforce but 10 supply per university.
"I'm shocked, James Bold carries a gun everywhere he goes. A bit paranoid/cowardly are we?"
When the Black idea of a "fight" is six on one, or 10-12 on one, or 50 on one, it's common sense. You're only paranoid if they're not really out to get you.
Of course, if Blacks ever stopped behaving like dangerous predators you might someday have a point. (Like that'll happen.) Say, you want "reparations", why not make a nice gesture and apologize for your misbehaving children? It won't even cost you a cent.
"James, you criticize blah college students, do you have a college degree?"
Same terms as before: tell me what difference it makes. For some reason you are unable to come up with that quid pro quo. An answer is proper currency to demand in return for an answer, n'est-ce pas? But you keep on insisting on something for nothing.
"Do you think many whites have the same racist views"
That's "race realist", but if you insist on using the word "racist" I'm fine with that. If having and using a brain makes one racist, so be it.
"as yourself or are you in a small minority?"
Most White people are horrified at your behavior and want nothing to do with you other than an absolute minimum required for virtue-signalling; they keep their opinions to themselves because they fear being called "racist". When the word loses its power, some will come out in a trickle... which will turn into a flood when the masses realize that the media, academia and government were lying to them and they were actually the majority all along.
"I have to safely transport over 200 passengers to popular foreign cities."
Cultural appropriation alert! Why don't you start a transportation service using pyramids flown with the power of your minds, like we've been told you had in Africa? Tell ya, the Greens would love you.
I think James has some issues. James, I know some white folks and they ain't nothing like u. I am guessing u are the guy who couldn't get the girl in HS.
Josh, u do know the president of minor resigned, right? Obviously the students did something right.
MEANT "Mizou".
"Josh, u do know the president of minor resigned, right? Obviously the students did something right."
To the extent you can call a forced resignation a resignation, okay then. Though your second sentence makes it clear that you do know it was essentially a firing; e.g. forced.
That's what's important: "Obviously the students did something right."
Why? What did they do right? Like I said, I don't a lot about the story. You literally cannot find but 20% of it on any ESPN channel. From what I understand, it went like this:
- Student finds swastika
- Student goes on hunger strike
- Other students start claiming racism, bereft of evidence
- Students begin demanding action
- Students gather and rally and demand something be done
- Tigers' football players finally get involved
- President "resigns"
- Everyone claims a victory
What is this victory? Did the PRESIDENT draw a swastika on the wall? Was the president dropping racial slurs? What, exactly, was there to do right?
Students proved what they should have known already, what's been evidence for a century in this nation: If you protest, folks listen. But what was this big issue about which they were protesting? What was going on that required this president to sacrifice his career?
I'm literally watching it this very second on Around the Horn, and they won't say WHY! They just say it's been a rally, the football team joined in, etc. Threats of boycotting practice, threats of abstaining from games, etc. But no one will say WTF got these people to protest.
Unfounded accusations of racism that they wanted someone to hang over? A shit-smeared swastika that the Department of Justice didn't come investigate?
Michael Smith just said that this is what you do if you want to see "actionable change." What needed to change? WTF was going on? The president was white? Accusations bereft of evidence? Frank Isola isn't saying either, as he's rambling on about it. He says it's a good thing. Jackie MacMullan says it's a good thing. It unified everyone, worthy cause, they took it on, etc. They were eloquent and grateful, and it's a shame that their voices weren't enough and that it took the football team. And it's a nice thing to know sports can effect social change. I'm just literally asking WTF was going on here that needed to change. Smith just said again that it's a shame it took THIS to get something to change, and that it was about some guy's hunger strike.
True? Eat, fucker! White people stopping you?
JOSH, "What, exactly, did these students want done about a swastika on the wall?"
They wanted it acknowledged and the perpetrator punished.
"Did they know who did it yet the school wouldn't punish them?"
More than that, the school did not even respond by an investigation. Yes, they know who did it.
"Was it ever found that the person who found it didn't do it himself for the publicity (there have certainly been plenty of those)?"
No the person who found it DID NOT do it himself. In other words no black student did it.
"Did black students just want white scalps to hang on the wall?"
No, no one is looking for 'white scalps to hang on the wall'...my my what a 'logical' factual thinking mind you have!
"Why are blacks offended by something that's antisemitic?"
You continue to ask a boat load of stupid questions but I bet you think they are truly getting to the bottom of a Swastika written in shit on campus. JOSH, you are empty of humanness. Your heart is covered in dry ice. And your brain just doesn't work very well.
Swastikas have always been offensive to Blacks just like the Confederate Flag.
"What are these "groups"?"
What are you talking about and why do you want to know?
"Why did someone's career--and potentially life--need to literally be ruined because of a symbol found?"
It's more than a symbol, JOSH. "Symbols" represent something. In this case, "hatred and intimidation". People don't feel safe when swastikas are written in shit on a campus of higher learning.
But don't take my word for it. Read and listen to the President who resigned. He got it, just like everyone else did, EXCEPT folks with dense minds and hearts. They will never get it.
Your questions have been answered but I have a feeling the answers are not what you wanted to hear. So now, I imagine you have more questions? or maybe criticisms about the answers to your questions? Of course you do. That's who you are....a good descent human being....Right.
"I think James has some issues."
Yes, I don't like being assaulted by Blacks (done that), being robbed by Blacks (had a tool kit and two bicycles stolen in separate incidents), and things like that.
"James, I know some white folks and they ain't nothing like u."
Wayne, that's because you are the one they all make nice-nice to for the sake of their virtue-signalling. All I do is tell it like it is.
"Swastikas have always been offensive to Blacks"
Always? Even before WWII, when they were mostly an Indian (call-center, not casino) symbol? I happen to find crime very offensive, but because I'm White my opinions don't matter to society. Because punishing criminals and expecting them to stop has "disparate impact" on Blacks, disliking crime is (gasp!) racist! (snicker)
"Yes, they know who did it."
Evidence?
"In other words no black student did it."
Evidence? (I mean, if everyone's favorite black poster uptownnsteve is any indication, some black folks hate Jews. And let's be real, many do! Why is it automatically dismissed that a black person might be responsible for an antisemitic symbol? Oh, shit. Scratch that question. I forgot. Blacks cannot be racists or bigots, etc. Only white people can. Obviously, then, if it's a bigoted symbol, it had to come from white people!)
"JOSH, you are empty of humanness. Your heart is covered in dry ice. And your brain just doesn't work very well."
If you say so. Fuck knows that's the only standard that matters on this blog! Say something's true, something's true. Magic.
"What are you talking about and why do you want to know?"
Yeah, my brain doesn't work very well...
"That's who you are....a good descent human being....Right."
You idiots (students included) remind me of that video of the famous black college student who's sitting there, batting her eyelashes, and telling everyone about microaggressions and white privilege.
She starts by saying that asking her about her heritage is a microaggression, because we're ALL human beings! Literally 2 minutes later, she says that white people who say "we're all just human beings" are attempting to whitewash her race and ignore her heritage. White people need to focus on her heritage and roots and stop pretending to be "colorblind."
You ask about her heritage, you're a racist. You treat her like a regular human being, you're a racist for not asking about her heritage.
It's the standards of what constitutes racism today, Anon, that leaves me wanting to know information about this.
I'm sorry if someone actually being skeptical and curious about what's really going on throws a monkey wrench in the atmosphere of "listen and believe." But I am curious. It is LITERALLY considered racism on a lot of college campuses to ask a black person where their ancestors are from. Though it's ALSO racism to NOT ASK and just to say that you treat all humans as equals. It's a motherfucking catch-22! So, yes, I'd like to know about these supposed racist groups and just what sort of "racism" they're up to.
Are they calling students "niggers" if they're black? Are they hanging nooses on doors? Are they saying dumb racist shit like "monkey" and "jigaboo" etc? Or are the saying things like "I treat all people the same" or did one ask a black person where their family is from?
You can literally be accused of racism in school and escorted away simply because you are white! Bet you didn't know that, huh? You can be called a racist and face expulsion because you told a black person that they're a human, just like you!
WTF were these students fighting against? Was it actual legit racism? Or was it this new age of "microaggression" nonsense where literally everything a white person does is racist?
Why am I literally a bad person for wanting to know the particulars? For fuck's sake, one would think that if this shit were true and not just make-believe, you'd want everyone to know all the details so that they could see this blatant racism happening. Instead, NOBODY gives the details of the story! After 4 pages of Google talking about the sports angle and not saying what else happened, I gave the fuck up on it. So I thought I'd ask people here.
And what answer do I get? "Why do you care?" lol
I just saw a news story about it on my local NBC affiliate. Still they didn't mention anything about "racism," only that a student found a swastika, something about a hunger strike, and they found one white girl to interview who said, paraphrased, "This has been a long time coming." They didn't ask the hordes of crying black girls any questions. There was a black girl, in fantastic weave, I might add, with a megaphone shouting about how this is a revolution! I reckon the newspeople were white and didn't wanna be accused of racism, so they kept their distance there. Close call! But still not a single, solitary damn particular example of this "racism."
A cynical man--not me, obviously, but someone cynical--might just conclude that it's all a bunch of bullshit and that people decided to steal a page from the BLM or Baltimore protests book and just show up and complain because it was considered a slight against blacks. What was the slight? Fuck if I know; nobody will say. Just that it's bad and students (well, the football team) did a good job in forcing a man's resignation and probably effectively ruining his and his family's lives. A shit-smear swastika was found, somebody exceedingly sensitive lost their appetite for a few days, and in comes Selma! No justice, no peace.
I don't believe in any sort of afterlife or ghostly presence that lives on or whatever. But in the event I'm wrong, I do wonder what actual slaves and those who fought for actual civil rights would think about a nation where telling a black person that you view them as an equal human being is literally considered the same sort of racism as keeping them out of your school because they're black. Pure speculation, but I suspect they'd be fucking embarrassed that their objective struggle paved the way for first-world whiners to pretend, like those white rednecks in Civil War garb, to be Civil Rights Reenactors, demanding scalps because apparently there's not much to do on campus this year with the Tigers sucking ass as even worse than the Commodores. Then again, I doubt 95% of Missouri's students have the academic chops to get into Vanderbilt anyway.
Uh first off who is disturbed by MY behavior? You seem to be afraid that I am going to do something to you James. I won't hurt you buddy so it's ok to put the gun down every once in a while. As far as cultural appropriation that's kind of an unenlightened approach. Do you check to see if every item you use has been invented by whites? If so then you may want to increase your meds. I'm not aware of the cutural identity of the engineers and builders of the 757/767 fleet. Pretty sure some diverse hands touched that fleet at sometime or another. Got a buddy who works as an engineer at Boeing so I know for a fact a brotha worked on the 787 but our side of the airline isn't allowed to fly those just yet.
Anyhoo I don't think answering a simple question demands such detailed and complex demands. A simple yes or no should suffice but I know you refer to me as a typical nigger who wants something for free so I guess I'll just assume you don't have a college degree because there's no way in hell I'm giving you 100K just for that information. Now I will also assume many whites are like you, "race realists" or in common terms racist. That's good to know. Maybe I need to pack a gun all the time since there are so many James Bolds running around. Nah, I'm not that cowardly and I live around all blah people. You should change your name to James not so Bold maybe.
Just out of curiosity josh, you said roll tide the other day, are you from bama? Did you grow up in the south? If you dont want to give the specific location a basic direction would be cool.
Uh no, disliking crime isn't racist. I dislike crime as much as the next guy. There are other reasons we think you're a racist James.
Do you have a college degree or did a negro steal that from you too?
Maybe james should check out FBI crime statistics. Looks like whites like stealing and assaulting people too. Gotta hate that.
"Why am I literally a bad person for wanting to know the particulars? For fuck's sake, one would think that if this shit were true and not just make-believe, you'd want everyone to know all the details so that they could see this blatant racism happening. Instead, NOBODY gives the details of the story.."
Unless u are a minority student at the University of Missouri your musings mean nothing.
Because, as Bob Marley said, "only he who feels it knows it."
Blogger field negro said...
"Why am I literally a bad person for wanting to know the particulars? For fuck's sake, one would think that if this shit were true and not just make-believe, you'd want everyone to know all the details so that they could see this blatant racism happening. Instead, NOBODY gives the details of the story.."
Unless u are a minority student at the University of Missouri your musings mean nothing.
Then by the same token, your rah, rah, rah about this situation is just as moot. What a hypocrite you are Field. You aren't a student at UM either.
"Unless u are a minority student at the University of Missouri your musings mean nothing."
Exactly. They go there and know the conditions. We should give them the benefit of the doubt. Seeing as this is happening in Missouri it isn't too much of a stretch to imagine they are correct. I went to school in Missouri and I believe it.
"Uh first off who is disturbed by MY behavior?"
Way to go, thinking everything is about thee. Thy behavior personally is something I've never witnessed and the only thing that disturbs me at this distance is thy sense of entitlement. Oh, and what is either thine ignorance of, or deliberate misunderstanding of, the fact that "your" is also the second-person plural possessive pronoun in modern English. IOW, what a Southerner would call "y'all's".
I suspect that part of your problem is that African languages are short on shadings of meaning, likely because their speakers don't have the genetic endowment to understand them so they never needed words for them. This carries over to other languages.
"As far as cultural appropriation that's kind of an unenlightened approach."
It's obvious that if anyone ever tried to explain sarcasm to you, you simply didn't get it. Kind of like the singular/plural distinction.
"Do you check to see if every item you use has been invented by whites?"
Why do you think you have a right to appropriate anything invented by Whites, such as the aerodyne (or the aerostat)? If Africans were flying around in mind-powered pyramids once upon a time, why don't you just bring that back and amaze the world with your feats? (That's what sarcasm looks like.)
"Got a buddy who works as an engineer at Boeing so I know for a fact a brotha worked on the 787 but our side of the airline isn't allowed to fly those just yet."
Better stay away from Dreamliners, I have it on excellent authority that racists designed a bunch of their subsystems. The racist vapors might seep out and rot your brain. (It's no sillier than the notion of "cultural racism", and people actually take that seriously.)
"A simple yes or no should suffice but I know you refer to me as a typical nigger who wants something for free so I guess I'll just assume you don't have a college degree because there's no way in hell I'm giving you 100K just for that information."
Yes, you're absolutely typical. I didn't ask you to put up a single penny, I asked you to tell me what difference it makes. Quid pro quo. You want that question answered, you answer my question. Anyone reading this knows you're just BSing. Anyone with a brain.
I have been watching you bend yourself into a pretzel evading that and laughing myself silly. It's even funnier given that you'd simply deny whatever I claimed. So why ask? I know why you're asking but I want to get your take on it so there's no doubt. Straight from the horse's ass, so to speak.
"Now I will also assume many whites are like you, "race realists" or in common terms racist."
The massive display of childishness at Mizzou is creating new ones as I write this. Maybe even some people who know you. Maybe they're putting two and two together, and will never look at you the same way again. (continued next comment)
"Maybe james should check out FBI crime statistics."
You mean like the FBI's uniform crime reports, which show that in 2011 Blacks (12.4% of the population) accounted for 49.7% of arrests for murder and an outright majority of arrests for robbery?
"Looks like whites like stealing and assaulting people too. Gotta hate that."
You're 12.4% of the population, but committing 49.7% of the murders and a whopping 55.6% of the robberies... and your response is "tu quoque", not "yes, we have a problem, let's work on correcting it." You don't take any responsibility for fixing this BLACK problem. Why should you? Blaming it on Whitey has worked so well for so long. But, in a classic failure of forethought, you can't understand what's going to happen when it doesn't work any more. Then it will be too late, if it isn't already.
JOSH"...So I thought I'd ask people here.
And what answer do I get? "Why do you care?" lol"
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I gave you answers to a lot of your questions but as I predicted they meant nothing to you. The answers didn't satisfy you. No sir, YOU wanted 'more' evidence as though you were some unmerciful prosecutor judge and jury.
Let's be honest here: Your questions weren't questions looking for answers, they were a list of accusations in the form of questions against Blacks.
It's always about YOU, and your disdain for Blacks, isn't it? You want every Negro to justify his existence to you. Well, it is clear from your comments and accusatory questions that will never happen.
So stew in your own self-centered disillusioned white privileged deluded self.
You really ought to find some religion because you are not a human with a heart.
You are easy to define: Alone, lonely, angry, enraged, judging, criticizing, unwanted and unloved. Did I miss anything?
You see as long as you keep doing and saying what you say, you will keep getting what you get. Go see a therapist, get into a T-group and learn to interact with human beings. Right now, the way you are, you won't change and the world won't change for you whether Black, White or Brown.
What question did you ask?
And you did say I was robbing and stealing so is it me that has the problem understand English? And I quoteth "most white people are absolutely horrified by you and your behavior", so what am I doing that is horrific? (Seems someone other than me has trouble picking up on sarcasm huh?)
So go ahead James ask me a question so then you can answer whether or not you have a college degree.
Uh, take a look at the entire body of crime statistics. Whites are 70% of all arrests for crimes. That a lot of crime. So who is responsible for white crime? Do you blame blackie or are you taking responsibility for this? Ball is in your court.
James Bold said, "Blaming it on Whitey has worked so well for so long. But, in a classic failure of forethought, you can't understand what's going to happen when it doesn't work any more. Then it will be too late, if it isn't already."
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No one is blaming Whitey. It's just "factual evidence,"(like JOSH likes to say) from centuries of abuse beginning with slavery, Jim Crow, police brutality, lynchings, murders, rapes, etc.
You MFs have a bad wretched evil history behind you and 'in front' of you with racists like yourself 'spearheading' racism to intimidate, degrade and blame Blacks for the shit you did.
How someone like you come to regard himself to be morally superior to all Blacks is a mystery that even God doesn't know...James Bold, you are disgusting.
"I gave you answers to a lot of your questions but as I predicted they meant nothing to you."
I'll never be able to understand how people can write but fuck the dog on reading.
"It's always about YOU, and your disdain for Blacks, isn't it?"
Steve, get your punk-ass back here on your name and stop using anonymous.
"Did I miss anything?"
No. I am sure you project thoroughly enough. In the event you did, you'll add it in your next psychoanalysis you're not even the least bit qualified to give though feel perfectly entitled to offer such (but it's white privilege. lol)
Josh, where did you grow up? If you don't want to get into specifics a region would be cool.
"Whites are 70% of all arrests for crimes. That a lot of crime. So who is responsible for white crime?"
Note that there's no category for "Hispanics" as perps. You know the 14% of the US population that hails from south of the border? They're in that 70% and they commit far more crimes per-capita than Europeans. There's also the little detail that many Black areas have been "de-policed" by insistence of the coonmunity, so lots of crimes generate no arrests and not even police reports. Detroit is like that.
"What question did you ask?"
God, what a moron you are. I re-stated it plainly: "I asked you to tell me what difference it makes." Tell me why having a degree makes a difference to whatever issue you're trying to settle. I know I'll never get an answer out of you after the fact, so I'm insisting that you go first.
"You MFs have a bad wretched evil history behind you and 'in front' of you"
Really? Anything like, say, cannibalism and human sacrifice? When the Spanish took Mexico, they shut down such practices among the Aztecs. In Africa, cannibalism and e.g. cutting off body parts from albinos continues to this day.
"with racists like yourself 'spearheading' racism to intimidate, degrade and blame Blacks for the shit you did."
Like what, exactly? Let's have specifics. My ancestors were certainly involved in the Thirty Year's War, but in the Americas they were all Yankees—likely abolitionists. Tell me what me and mine did that we blame Blacks for, "Anonymous" (Coward). I want dirt.
"Josh, where did you grow up?"
I read you and James Bold going back and forth, and while tempted to butt in, I mind my own business. But I want to say, "James, you can answer the dude's questions and he'll either (a) say you're lying or (b) just ask again in a month."
You have asked me this question multiple times, Pilot. I've answered plenty. You used to ask back when you asked me what degree(s) I had, where I got them, etc. I answered those too. I have a bachelor of science in biology, which was necessary en route to obtaining a master's in evo-bio (GWU), and to bolster my resume because I didn't wanna work in a lab for a restricted salary until I died, I got a BA in English Lit and then sought to become a self-employed copywriter. I don't feel I know you well enough to give you my SSN and CC numbers, but you may one day ask.
And, unlike many students, I actually worked my way up from community college and paid my own way. I couldn't get approved for college loans. My white privilege hard at work! I cut powerline taps on mountainsides and held a stop/slow sign in the dead of winter, worked in a food truck, built stairs in Gainsville in a beat-up factory, and lived that oh, so wonderful life of white privilege grubbing down on luxurious boxes of Kraft mac 'n cheese and Cup O'Noodles for the better part of seven years, while living in an efficiency apartment that was something out of a horror movie, with a hotplate and a 13" inch black and white TV, no hot water, and a fold-out sofa bed that didn't fold out.
So, for the dozenth time, as if it has shit to do with anything in the world, I grew up in Suitland, MD, in Prince Georges, which borders DC. We have our own Urban Dictionary listing, which is probably our claim to fame. lol
Josh, I never asked you where you were from. Not once.
James, it actually doesn't make a difference one way or another just curious. Good enough?
Now do you have a degree?
"James, it actually doesn't make a difference one way or another just curious."
That's all I asked from you (singular). Now was that so hard?
"Now do you have a degree?"
Yes. A 4-year science degree that happened to include a number of 400-level math courses. Josh is way ahead of me in schooling, but I may be ahead of him in maths.
Do what now? Dude...
You don't remember our big hullabaloo about me saying that the lives y'all pretend to have lived, that "struggle" of coming up in the middle-class with both parents, while pretending that you've been on the ghetto streets, but ironically I'm probably the only dude here, a white dude no less, who actually grew up like that? You don't remember all those times you told me that you didn't have to have grown up in that environment to know about it, immediately after scolding me that I can't possibly know these "black" issues because I've never lived them and I'm not black?
You seriously don't remember those conversations we used to have?
Though you'll never forget to lord over me with that sarcasm kerfuffle for as long as you live! But you don't remember scolding me as knowing nothing about that sort of life and then telling me that you, as a black man, don't actually have to live that kind of life to understand it intimately? You know what it's like to grow up as a ghetto youth in a violence-riddled, drug-torn area, all because you're black.
Who do you think was my inspiration for coining the phrase "airborne osmosis"? It was you! Mr. I-know-about-that-life-because-of-my-skin-color. Mr. I-actually-went-to-school-and-tried-hard-but-refuse-to-suggest-other-blacks-do-the-same. Mr. tomming-ass-coon in the flesh.
We have spoken a whole lot more on this blog than you remember. But the disconnect is understandable. I'm not breaking your balls; honest Abe, I'm not. I do imagine that all those times you used anon are times that you really didn't count as "you" speaking. It was your alters.
Josh is way ahead of me in schooling, but I may be ahead of him in maths.
Math makes my head scream! If I had to guess, half the people here are probably ahead of me in math (though I'm sure I can discount most of the idiots who spam ad hominems). I did the geometry/calculus/physics circuit in high school, like many folks, but anything beyond that just gave me nightmares. And were I to pursue step 3 in evo-bio, the doctorate, I would have had to get into the quantitative aspects of evolution, and enter more math. And more math. And more math. And no thank you! Population genetics and complex equations and algorithms to determine marker distribution based on migratory patterns at point X and Y in coinciding climate models? LOL. NO!
I was in my late 20s and never lived a life since I was a teenager. No parties. No ball games. No late-night random cruising. No bar-hopping. And what's the most fucked up, at least for me, was that by the time I was in my thesis to graduate, I had already burned out and changed my mind about what I wanted to do. As a teenager with a college adviser telling me that geology, paleontology, and all those other things in which I was interested could be achieved in the cross-discipline of evo-bio, it sounded awesome. But a science course isn't a classroom so much as it's a laboratory with a teacher. I couldn't imagine my life lived like that, and more math would have made me turn to drugs probably!
Wow, now was that so hard James? Would you mind sharing what the degree is in or is that prying a bit too much?
And Josh, it is somewhat insulting for you to imply I would just outright say James is lying. This isn't the first time you've made such implications I.e. The time you implied I disagree with you just because you're you and I dislike you. I don't roll like that so for future reference you can refrain from any further implications. Thanks.
I'll give you a hint: if you ever fly in a Dreamliner, you'll be inhaling the racist vapors emanating from my contributions to it.
Ok, do we have to play guessing games or can you tell me what you majored in?
"Would you mind sharing what the degree is in or is that prying a bit too much?"
Pilot, I'm just guessing here, and James and I are not the same person, contrary to what some believe, but do you realize how condescending your line of questioning is to people? You've said before that you ask because people here treat you like you're lesser just because of your skin color. And I'm willing to take you at your word, although I've never seen anyone do that. But just imagine it were white people continually asking you, every single day, if you had a degree, what it's in, where you come from, etc. You don't think you might just say "Fuck that noise" and not answer?
And obviously this is just speculation: I'm guessing James' field of study was in aerospace engineering, perhaps with an emphasis on ventilation, in which case would require a supreme understanding of mathematics and a slew of other factors that would make my head spin.
As to you feeling insulted as to things I say: And? Your feelings are not an argument. If I'm wrong, you can just say so without having to plunge into the emotional pool of becoming a victim over it. And it's not as if I was just guessing that you'd call him a liar. As I recall, when I told you I had 3 degrees, your response was something like, "Yeah right..."
You sure use the word victim a lot there Josh. When I start trolling websites spewing racist bullshit I'm guessing the people who frequent those sites would probably want to know a bit about me. I could be wrong.
AE with an emphasis on ventilation huh? That would be an interesting major. Maybe James will tell us instead of just speculating. My bet is he's flight attendant with bad breath.
Funny thing is you are a skeptic except when it comes to your racist buddy. Funny that.
On another note, there have been several trolls who've been here claiming to be engineers. It's the number one troll occupation. Dream job maybe?
I know very little about engineering and have no earthly idea if such a major would even have an emphasis on ventilation systems. As I plainly said, it's purely speculative.
"Funny thing is you are a skeptic except when it comes to your racist buddy. Funny that."
If James Bold ever tells me that he's able to read a single sentence of English from a person and then tell, without a doubt, what that person's race is, I will doubt that claim and ask him what makes him psychic and able to tell such a thing. I will mention that it's the logical fallacy commonly referred to as "no true Scotsman" and that applying a universal standard based on one's personal projections creates an inconsistent model of reality. You have my word.
That he says he has a degree in a scientific field is not a claim I find to be outlandish. There's a mantra we skeptics try to live by: The more outlandish the claim, the more compelling the evidence need be.
I question Yisheng's supposed position because in her attempt to belittle me, she gave demonstrably, objectively incorrect biology terminology and information, information that even a high-school biology student would know. So when she claims to be a top-flight cancer researcher, yet presents herself on the level of someone who failed basic biology, I doubt highly her claims. If James ever gets a math equation wrong, I'll doubt his prowess in mathematics. You have my word.
"On another note, there have been several trolls who've been here claiming to be engineers."
I have no idea. I haven't seen them. I don't know engineering from a hole in the ground. But "engineering," like "physics," covers a lot of shit: Aerospace, mechanical, electrical, aquatic, bioresource, chemical, civil, coastal, building, agricultural, ceramic, architectural, biomedical, biological, computer, food, genetic, information (tech), logistic, marine, materials, forensic, geomatics, geotechnical, military, naval, nuclear, plastics, safety, retro, nano, ocean, paper, mechatronics, and probably a few dozen more. An engineer isn't like a patrolman or something. Engineering is, per my understanding, a cross-discipline of science and mathematics which uses empirical evidence to design, build, maintain, create, etc, an incredibly wide variety of systems for an endless amount of things. That a lot of people may be engineers could be a result of engineers being a popular line of work. Now, if they all claimed to be a specific type of engineer, like a nuclear engineer, I'd be inclined to agree with you. But an engineer in general? There are hundreds if not thousands of varieties.
Uh thanks for the update Josh, I am pretty familiar with engineers and the many varieties. I've been around thisblog for a minute and I'm pretty sure the types of individuals claiming to be engineers probably aren't. They usually disappear soon after their claims. James didn't come across as too intellectual and really still doesn't. Well who knows maybe the klan has a school of engineering.
Well, you seem to be able to deduce more information from a single sentence of English than I view as even a practical possibility. So to the extent you're able to tell someone's profession, education and race, all from what they write here, you might want to think about looking into a career that pays more than being a pilot. Last I checked, James Randi's Million Dollar Challenge was still up for grabs.
You could put those skills to the test in a controlled scientific environment. You risk absolutely nothing. Though if you're correct and do you have mystical powers that the rest of humanity does not, you will receive a million dollars instantly.
(Update: as I Googled the link before posting this, James Randi's challenge has been terminated, with no winners to date. But I'm confident that other similar challenges exist.)
Blogger PilotX said...
On another note, there have been several trolls who've been here claiming to be engineers. It's the number one troll occupation. Dream job maybe?
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I'm married to one and raised another.
Trust me, there are NO troll Engineers around here.
"Trust me, there are NO troll Engineers around here."
Hey, did you know that the indefinite integral
∫ d(Cabin)/Cabin
= log(Cabin) + C
= Houseboat?
"Hey, man, what's new?" "c/λ, same as always."
I don't expect anybody here to get those without looking them up. Yīshēng must've married an AA hire, and raised another.
"If James Bold ever tells me that he's able to read a single sentence of English from a person and then tell, without a doubt, what that person's race is, I will doubt that claim and ask him what makes him psychic and able to tell such a thing."
If you have ever read some of the word-salad that I've seen (there isn't enough mindbleach in the world...) you'd be able to ID the race with 90%+ certainty. It's the combination of subject matter/obsessions and deranged thought process. But usually these people ID themselves and remove all doubt. Constructive Feedback is a textbook example.
@10:46, the White man is the PRIMARY beneficiary of race based accolades and opportunities since this country's inception.
Well maybe not you, because you're clearly not that bright.
I'm sure there are tons of intelligent highly successful engineers trolling websites spreading racist filth. I'm just sure it's not the typical troll profile of teenaged white males. Sure Josh, I'll just believe everything I read on the internet, that is a brilliant plan.
"Well maybe not you, because you're clearly not that bright."
Another stereotypically Black phenomenon: assuming that anything hard to understand is stupid. You know, we've been over this before. I have multiple US patents issued in my name. You won't meet my terms for offering you proof. You could have remained silent and been thought a fool, but you opened your mouth and removed all doubt.
What's hard to understand? You CLAIM to have several patents and to prove such you have set down an elaborate plan to prove such instead of just simply answering a simple question. Uh, yeah and I'm the asshole. Sorry James but I'm in the camp that you're not an inventor but a simple internet troll with a racial axe to grind. But hey if you wanna keep the game going then by all means keep on keeping on. Your buddy Josh seems to believe you so you at least have that. Bully for you!
Blogger PilotX said...
I'm sure there are tons of intelligent highly successful engineers trolling websites spreading racist filth.
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True but just not here. In fact, it's pretty much the SAME two trolls for the last 7 or so years, changing "names" every couple of years because their schizophrenia "orders" them too, LOL!!
That was a sarcastic comment, most racist trolls are jealous losers.
"Sure Josh, I'll just believe everything I read on the internet, that is a brilliant plan."
What the fuck is your beef here, Pilot?
Let's see if I--if WE--can get this figured out:
Claim A: I can read a single sentence of English and tell you definitively which race that person is, how educated they are, and what they definitely don't do for a living.
Reason(s) I do/don't question it: I'm not psychic, why are you? I don't know of any real psychic people; this is mythology. Plus it's a logical fallacy known as no true Scotsman. Yisheng uses it too, and in any way you're like Yisheng is definitely causing my skeptical receptors to fire. It's an outstanding, fantastical claim, reliant entirely on a logical fallacy, that person 1 can read person 2's sentence and accurately infer (a) race, (b) education, (c) profession. It's MAGIC!
Claim B: I have a four-year science degree.
Reason(s) I do/don't question it: I understand a four-year degree to be a bachelor's of science, something I obtained, something that thirty percent of the American adult population has. It's just a degree, for fuck's sake. Nothing magical or mystical.
Pilot, have I ever questioned, a single time, what you do for a living? I'm not sure, but I always assumed that you needed at least a bachelor's degree, some form of applied instruction, and a couple thousand hours of specialized training to do this job. So, I've always viewed you as a competent, capable individual who has a degree and training in a specialized field of study and application.
Why? Have I asked you incessantly or tried to set up some pop quiz to test you? Of course not. Shit's laughable. I have always taken your word because that you're a pilot is not an outlandish claim! There are many airplane pilots in the nation. Why wouldn't you be one?
But there aren't any real psychics of which I'm aware.
The more often you present yourself as stone fucking stupid in wondering why I question some claims and not others, the more I do second-guess myself on which of your claims, if any, I should believe. I'm not sure I want you flying me to my destination. You might get distracted by a bird or something...
By your exact standard that James and I are buddies, you and I are also buddies, seeing as I believe that you're a pilot.
You don't have to believe I'm a pilot Josh I don't care one way or the other. Many have questioned the verasity of my claim, even had one troll years ago claiming to also be a United pilot but he disappeared pretty quickly when he found out I was the real deal. I'm used to white guys not believing blah folks can do anything.
"You don't have to believe I'm a pilot Josh I don't care one way or the other."
You seem to care greatly, however, that I'm willing to believe James has a four-year science degree but I question your claim of being able to spot someone's race. So, which is it? Do you care or don't you?
"Many have questioned the [veracity] of my claim,"
But I haven't. Dafuq do I care that others have? You keep breaking my balls, like James and I are dudebros for life, all because, apparently, I haven't held his claims to the same standards I've held yours. And as I just illustrated, objectively, that is not the truth. I have always believed you're a pilot. Why would I question such an innocuous claim? Somebody has to be fucking pilots, why not you? Now, extrapolate that further: Somebody has to make up the 30% of adult Americans with B-degrees (BA, BS, etc), so why not James?
"I'm used to white guys not believing blah folks can do anything."
Apparently all of these white people who claim you can't do shit because you're black must post while I'm not paying attention. Other than James, with whom I openly disagree in terms of race being the cause of any intelligence gap*, I have seen few people ever break your balls in any capacity; it's typically you who's breaking everyone else's balls about something. That's flatly my experience; I'm not claiming it universal or an accurate model of reality. Just that these "Pilot-is-lesser-'cause-he's-black" folks must be wearing camo or something.
You get your licks in, homes. To the extent you take shit here in any capacity, I'd argue you've served it back tenfold. "PilotX" is typically the name most found.
Granted, I'm not sure how to take these anon idiots. You know yourself that I had like 4 different fucking idiots web-stalking me last year on every post, threatening my life, my family, and just spamming racist insults at me left and right. For all I know, some of these morons were white people just trying to stir the pot. I mean, we're talking about fucking Internet trolls here. Uptownsteve is a guy I can see among them, presenting himself as a white racist just so people can say, "See! There's racism!" And I only say this because he's been caught red-handed doing such before. It's not beneath him. So WTF? Your last sentence makes it seem like you think it only works one way here.
I remember when I first started here, I took my time to literally go through comments and to call out things I thought were racist against black people. IQ stuff, inborn deficiency, over-the-top stereotypes, etc. Then I met Yisheng, who in our very first exchange literally yelled, "FUCK YOU HONKY AND YOUR CRACKA ASS FAMILY TOO!" And what happened as a result? You fuckwits egged her on, patted her back, and told her "good job, get them trolls!" and other shit, applauding her for objective racism. So I said "fuck this shit; why bother?" It's not as if it only works the one way, Pilot. Black folks here--assuming they're black and not moron white trolls--give it up every bit as good as anyone gets it.
*My take on racial IQ/intelligence is molded through my experience with evolution. What I hypothesize is that there exist a lack of gene markers responsible for cooperation within all population groups that existed in stagnant, consistent climates; whereas populations that fought through ice ages and the like were forced, per natural selection, to further the proliferation of cooperative genes. From what I know about the subject, this isn't to do with "race" so much as it's just happenstance Africans never fought the struggles that those to the north did, and Africans (blacks) are not the only ones to avoid them. Inuits, NAs, Aboriginals, etc. My take isn't racial; it's geographical. A fuck of a lot more complex than this simple snippet, of course.
Blogger PilotX said...
You don't have to believe I'm a pilot Josh I don't care one way or the other. Many have questioned the verasity of my claim, even had one troll years ago claiming to also be a United pilot but he disappeared pretty quickly when he found out I was the real deal.
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I've noticed in my own life that successful and accomplished White folks (that aren't from "cracker" backgrounds)have NO ISSUE believing Blacks can be highly successful too.
In fact, I'm guessing that a tally of most of the members of the KKK won't produce too many Scientists, Pilots, or Attorneys. You know, like those White folks that burned down successful Black towns in Florida and Oklahoma, they weren't educated Whites with class in the overwhelming majority of cases.
They were uneducated and unsuccessful scum and their descendants post here everyday.
I do take it personally when persons attack blah people. I only break the balls of folks who deserve it. And if you don't believe I don't care if you believe the truth of my claims I guess that's the way the ball bounces sometimes.
I don't know Doc, there were allegedly a few prominent folks found on that kkk list. A governor and a US Senator. One never knows.
"And if you don't believe I don't care if you believe the truth of my claims I guess that's the way the ball bounces sometimes."
Well, Pilot, it's not like you've mentioned it like five separate times that I believe James Bold's claims (4-year science degree) but question other claims (you can spot a person's race by the way they type).
I mean, for you to just keep having mentioned it in multiple responses, breaking my balls because I didn't question him but questioned you -- well, mate, if that's not you caring, I'm not sure what you caring would actually look like.
I can see making the observation once. But even after I explained my standard (e.g. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, paraphrased), you didn't accept that and still continued to beat the drum.
Not all claims are equal. Surely you know that.
For instance, this is what I'm taking on faith from, say, Field:
- He's male
- He's black
- He's a lawyer (or works in law)
- He's from Jamaica
Never have I questioned any of those claims. They're innocuous claims. Why question that sort of shit?
Some of the things I have questioned:
- A black person discriminated against speaks for itself that it's racism
- Trust me, I know a black person when I see them (speaking of how someone writes English)
Surely you spot the differences in the claims made? The two latter are extraordinary claims. One is saying that there's no other possible reason that exists that a black person would meet discrimination, except for the fact that they're black. The other is saying, just like you've said multiple times, that the "no true Scotsman" logical fallacy is actually a legitimate standard of judgment to use.
Just like:
- I saw a light in the sky
- I saw a alien spaceship, a UFO, hovering overhead
Or:
- I saw something move in the woods
- I saw Bigfoot
I'm honestly, truly not trying to be condescending here, but I don't think you quite grasp what a "skeptic" is. To the extent I say I question everything, that's not fucking literal; it's colloquial. I question claims that smell fishy, or things asserted as fact bereft of evidence, or the supernatural, or things that do not represent reality.
- I'm a pilot
- I can tell someone's race from a single phrase they use
Are were making any progress here? I type 92wpm. We can keep it going...
- "I can tell someone's race from a single phrase they use"
Not that simple. If you want to oversimplify then have at it Josh, I take each specific instance as unique. Believe it or not you aren't the only person who is able to use logic. Let's look at the two choices in one specific case. An individual claims to be an 80 year old blah man who lived through the civil rights era and uses every opportunity to degrade blah people. This person could A. actually be an 80 year old who surfs the net or B. a young white male who is being what is commonly referred to as a humor troll. Which is more likely? In my years of surfing the web I have yet to come across an 80 year old on ANY site but I have come across many young white humor trolls. Add to that Field's ability to recognize IP addresses and he also doubts the claim soooooooooooo.........
Now if you want to attribute that to me having some sort of sixth sense then have at it but to me it's just common sense. You can disagree all you want but if I were a betting man I would bet on my observation but in the long run what does it matter. You really seem stuck on this one issue. Let it go man. (Yeah I know you'll retort that I'M the one stuck so).
"Are were making any progress here? I type 92wpm. We can keep it going..."
Are you supposed to be "helping" me? I'm good man, I don't need Josh logic. Then again if I say yes you can save a good portion of the night and do things other than trying to school a 43 year old blah man who has no interest in being schooled by a younger white male. There is that.
"Which is more likely?"
You're speaking about the same "digital blackface" dude who argued with me for a week that I had a cold, mean heart and was a racist white, part of 400 years of brutal oppression, because I didn't say that Mr. Eason at Elmer's was a case of obvious racism? Seems to me what you call degrading black people, I see as sticking up for them with this nonsensical "field" struggle, whereby objectively privileged--in comparison--black people in the modern era want to pretend that they're slaves in the field, fighting the man, while others are in the house.
I don't forget, even if other people do, that the blog I visit is called The Field Negro, which is a term for a slave who was forced, under penalty of pain and/or death, to labor--not work, forced labor--away for no wage, subhuman living conditions and treatment, and probably would have died as an oppressed, beaten, broken man. Yet a man who was raised free, got into schools fairly, works as a professional, etc, adopts that name. And I cannot count how many black men and woman applaud it and champion it!
Melissa Harris-Perry probably lives this blog! Mrs. You-are-not-allowed-to-say-"hard-work"-because-only-slaves-ever-worked-hard wouldn't have a problem with it. Blatant disrespect, IMO. But fuck me, right? I'm white. I can never begin to understand what black slaves went through -- because apparently airborne osmosis means only today's blacks, who were never slaves, somehow can.
Forgive the slight digression there. Anyway...
So how was that anon ever degrading blacks? By saying before that he agreed with me? Despite how many times you told me that it wasn't as simple as one's ideology, or the way they phrased something, that's precisely the only evidence you were able to present for your claim.
Common sense says ice melts faster in boiling water than under a stream of cold water. Common sense once said metal boats can't float. Common sense is nonsense.
I don't know what recognizing an IP address means. You mean Field have evidence that the 80-year-old blah is a former white troll? Present it, Field. Let's get this one settled, I'll admit I was wrong and that y'all were right, and we can retire this one.
"Are you supposed to be 'helping' me?"
You're the one who seemed to be missing something quite obvious. I just give you credit for not saying that I didn't question James because he's white but questioned you because you're black.
Blogger PilotX said...
I don't know Doc, there were allegedly a few prominent folks found on that kkk list. A governor and a US Senator. One never knows.
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I said White folks that are NOT from "cracker" backgrounds, a Governor and US Senator that are members of the KKK are CLEARLY "crackers", LOL!!!
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