I first met Richard Fausset over a decade ago when he did a feature on me for his old paper, the Los Angeles Times. He shadowed me for a day and I got to know him pretty well. I though his reporting was fair and accurate, and I found him to be genuine and thoughtful. I did then-- and still do-- believe that he is someone from the majority population who gets it.Fausset now writes for the New York Times, and an article he wrote recently for his paper has been getting a lot of buzz for all the wrong reasons.
Apparently his editors believe that a Nazi next door article was something that the world needed right now. Normalizing Nazis, though, is not something that twitterland and lots of other folks felt was cool, and they let the New York Times know about it in no uncertain terms. I must confess that I too thought that an article on the Nazi next door from America's paper of record was not a good look. The author himself appears to have had reservations about the article after he wrote it, and he must have been thinking to himself: how did I let my editors get me into this mess?
To be fair, it's not only the New York Times. The American media in general has had a love affair with white supremacists ever since the election of Donald trump. There has been one article after another about the typical trump supporter and what it is that makes him or her tick. (As if that's hard to figure out.) If I read one more article about the poor trump supporter and his "economic anxiety" I will scream.
While the main stream media continues to fawn over over the trumpbots, the rest of us are having a hard time figuring out this normalization of hate that has been going on in America. When the New York Times does an article on a suburban boy next door Nazi, you know what we are in trouble. I mean Hitler loved dogs for crying out loud.
I have no problem with reporting on white extremist and racist to let us know what we are dealing with in this country. But I do have a problem when we treat them like they are just a bunch of folks with a different political point of view. They are far more dangerous than that. I don't expect the white power structure that controls the media in this country to understand this, but I do expect them to have a certain amount of sensitivity for the rest of us who are threatened by these people.
I will close with the words of Jamelle Bouies's response to someone on twitter.
"my explanation is that the overwhelming whiteness of political journalism is a genuine impediment to understanding white racist extremists as a genuine, dangerous threat and reporting on them accordingly."
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When President Obama was elected in 2008, I thought we had made a great stride in furthering race relations. Instead, I found Jim Crow was alive and kicking. I noticed white people were more comfortable once again with openly using racial slurs, and sadly, much more. I have worked for many years to leave my racism behind. The election of Trump has shaken me. Even more alarming, people I considered as otherwise good folks, started the same crap from the past. I hate facing the realization that so little has changed. I live in Alabama, so I'm aware of the right wing fools we have elected. I don't want to return to the "good old days and traditional values." It was too evil. There is so much work to be done to counter this hate. I hope and pray it is not too late.
Loving one's own kind isn't hate.
It's too bad the DNC shuts out progressives. If they want elected officials who are better than the racist reality show host, they should nominate some. Here's a short reminder why neocons like the Bushes, Dick Cheney, John McCain, and Bill Kristol, etc. voted for Hillary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI
Yup, "economic anxiety" my skinny white ass. If economic anxiety was driving Fergus' election, you would see his numbers high from every demographic in that economic group, but you didn't. It was only white people, which tells you that Fergus was trading in racial animus instead of "economic anxiety".
And let's not forget that there aren't as many Nazis as the Nazis would like us to believe there are. There are just a few of them, but they are so pathetically awful that they get outsized press coverage for their meager numbers.
They are mostly a curiosity, like a bad chemical leak, or a bad local infestation of a particularly annoying vermin, like ticks, or fleas, or yellowjackets. Sure, they can hurt you if you aren't lucky and bumble into a nest of them, but on the whole they are pretty much small and far away.
Fergus lost the popular vote, and would have lost the election if not for the way the goddamn Republicans cheat. Crosscheck probably purged more "Jose Gonzalez's" from the rolls in multiple states for the high crime of having a similar name, and often not even the same middle name, as a voter in another state, than Fergus won those states by.
So if the papers want to write about what caused this bullshit, perhaps they can follow Greg Palast's lead and write about the cheating that got us here.
Nazis do suck, but if it were possible to be rid of them, I think that what the Allies did would have done so, and as we're not likely mount another effort like that one, containing them and excluding them from decent society will have to do going forward.
Perhaps if there were Nazis living close by, I might want to know about it, but then again maybe not. What good would it do me to know?
I might feel different about that if I were Jewish or black, but I'm not, and seriously, I've had some neighbors you actually had to worry about a lot more than a bunch of tiki-torch racists in leisure wear, and I'm still around to tell the tale.
-Doug in Oakland
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Doug says...
"Yup, "economic anxiety" my skinny white ass."
Doug lying again...
Since the European Jews are usually quite vocal in expressing their anger towards anti semitism and threats Jews it will be interesting to find out how they react to the article written by this journalist.
It's my guess that they will do and say NOTHING and that they are perfectly ok with this.
It's a proven fact that white Jews in America have always and will always prefer to live next door to former Nazis and in the same neighborhood with Nazi soldiers that killed millions of Jewish people rather than living next door to a black or hispanic.
They will run like hell from anyone of color that moves in next door, but stay and live quite happily with someone of the same color that slaughtered millions of jews.
The fact that those Nazi stories on the history channel STAY playing is a big clue that whooteemoos ain't shit. STILL.
People in places like Libya, Syria, the Congo, Gaza, and Yemen, have a different view of which Americans are like Nazis.
If I read one more article about the poor trump supporter and his "economic anxiety" I will scream.
It is patently obvious that Drumpfuck supporters economic anxiety wasn't near high enough when they voted for him. He has done more to drive their economic future into the ground and they don't seem to give a shit.
We had a couple of these knuckleheads in my high school back in the day. They were really nothing more than a curiosity because we had an equal number of Blahs, Latinos and whites and as Doug stated the majority of whites at the time didn't go along with their program. One of the nazi wannabes is actually a pretty well known lecturer who spends his time trying to reprogram racists. Now that being said there are a number of my former classmates who are trump supporters and it's kind of offputting to hear some of the borderline racist shit they believe or say. To be honest almost all of the trumpies were the uh, how can we be polite about this, not the brightest bulbs in the pack. It's almost funny that now they can finally feel superior because they can tell the rest of us we're sheep because only they know the truth. Anything that differs from their beliefs is fake news and even the dullest look down on some of us because we went to college so obviously we are brainwashed and can't see the "truth" so those without higher education are really the smart ones. Bizarro world but to take advantage of the not so bright undereducated white population you have to elevate them but you do so at the peril of the country. When ignorance is celebrated and given the same status as knowledge we get leaders like trump.
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/local/5-dead-24-wounded-in-thanksgiving-weekend-shootings-in-chicago
"Yup, 'economic anxiety' my skinny white ass. If economic anxiety was driving Fergus' election, you would see his numbers high from every demographic in that economic group, but you didn't."
Not really true.
There were undoubtedly people who liked Trump's economic message (i.e., lies) and voted for that in spite of his racist message. They weren't excited about Trump's racism, but were able to ignore it.
In other words, they voted more out of selfishness than racism. "My life will improve, because that Mr. Trump says he will 'start putting America first' and then the good jobs will come back to Cooterville. I guess it probably won't be so great for brown people, with all the bad things Mr. Trump has said he will do to them ... but oh well, not my problem!"
If you're white, you might be enticed into voting like that. Whereas if you're, say, black or Latino, you are unlikely to be; no flowery economic promises will make up for the prospective president promising to take a dump on you because you're the wrong race.
Field says "sensitivity"
That's sweet, field.
Even for those who did vote for Trump because of, rather than in spite of, his racism, this is still not always 100% separate from economics.
Republicans have successfully pushed a bullshit narrative to many lower-income whites that says brown people are at fault for their impoverishment: Job security and wages are low because of Mexicans sneaking over the border to take American jobs, the government can't afford to help deserving lower-income whites because it wastes too much on helping lazy, dysfunctional blacks, and so on.
Keep in mind that the Nazis came to power in Germany after exploiting terrible post-WWI economic conditions: hyperinflation followed by mass unemployment.
It's important to understand how economics drives these trends.
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/local/5-dead-24-wounded-in-thanksgiving-weekend-shootings-in-chicago
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Fake news, we all know trump sent in the feds and it's now safe in Chicago.
Is there a practical point in giving lots of media coverage to the motivations of Nazis? No. I don't think so. We all already know exactly what they think, and the vast majority of them are not redeemable people.
We don't need to better "understand" Nazis. The police need to find better ways of keeping them under surveillance so that they can be immediately imprisoned the moment they get out of line.
I don't think this equates to not needing to understand Trump voters. Some, not all, of them are redeemable, and the Dems need to find ways to address their legitimate economic grievances and simultaneously counter the right-wing brainwashing they are experiencing.
Otherwise, the Democrats are going to struggle to win enough elections to pass any of the policies they care about. White working-class support for the party has been plummeting in recent years, not just in 2016. Electoral math says that, for the immediate future at least, the Democrats cannot win with just non-white voters and college-educated urban whites.
That is why so many (sometimes tedious) articles have been devoted to the angry, white Joe Sixpacks. Because unless the party fixes its problems with this demographic, it is utterly screwed. It's very tempting, after the election of Trump, to write off most white working-class people as hopelessly dumb and racist. Believe me, I very much want to do this. But it's not smart, politically speaking.
Got a spell for disappearing whitey wingnuts permanently? Starting in the WH and congress.
https://www.alternet.org/human-rights/alt-america-time-talking-about-white-terrorism-now
"...the vast majority of them are not redeemable people."
Not just Nazis, Republicans. There's no point in trying to talk to them. They "believe" (today, what they believe tomorrow depends on what Fox and hate radio needs them to believe tomorrow) demonstrably false lies and will deny whatever facts you try to change their opinion with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZoVYl9ltcA
And when was it, exactly, that shooting Nazis changed from the country's number one priority into something you can go to jail for?
And as for "needing" the idiots who voted for Fergus to win elections, tell that to the Democratic (mostly female) candidates who just flipped thirteen more seats in the Virginia house of delegates than have ever been flipped in the history of that institution, and the Democratic lesbian who won a state senate seat in fucking Oklahoma.
-Doug in Oakland
C'mon Doug. How many "Nazis" have been shot?
Tho, I do agree with you about your criticism of the females. Queenie, to be the worst.
"Not just Nazis, Republicans. There's no point in trying to talk to them."
Nah. Not all of them.
I have GOP relatives and acquaintances who aren't completely brainwashed. It frustrates me that they seem to be deceiving themselves into believing that the Republican Party is still the party of Eisenhower. They are voting for a party that hasn't existed in years, and they give its politicians the benefit of the doubt for having good intentions when they absolutely shouldn't. But they haven't totally drunk all of the Koolaid.
I know that I am not the guy to reach these people, because I get too angry at their ignorance and feel the urge to punch them, but someone more patient than me should be trying. Folks like this are not a lost cause.
"And when was it, exactly, that shooting Nazis changed from the country's number one priority into something you can go to jail for?"
I believe it was 1945, lol.
"And as for 'needing' the idiots who voted for Fergus to win elections, tell that to the Democratic (mostly female) candidates who just flipped thirteen more seats in the Virginia house of delegates than have ever been flipped in the history of that institution, and the Democratic lesbian who won a state senate seat in fucking Oklahoma"
That's true in certain areas, but not nationally. You're not likely to maintain control of Congress or the presidency with that approach.
Simply put, a coalition of only non-whites and college-educated urban whites is not big enough to accomplish anything meaningful at the federal level. That's a major problem.
So Democrats will have to find a way to connect with some of this GOP-vulnerable demographic, both in terms of policy and messaging. I don't have answers on how they should do it, but they're going to have to figure it out.
Field and Charley Pierce spotlighted the same article with the same dangers, but coming at it from different angles:
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a13938994/new-york-times-nazi-story-reactions/
Pierce quotes Herbert Hoover, who met with der Fuhrer and came away thinking all was fine. Hoover: "[I]n emotional politics.… You need a devil if you are going to succeed. Their devil is the Jew. In the United States it is economic royalists." So, nothing to see here. Jews = economic royalists. False equivalence, much?
It took me, an old white fart, a long time to realize how brutally simple bigotries are. Wipipo (thanks, Michael Harriot) often overthink racism. "It can't be that crude and mindless, can it?" Yes, it can be and is. Today's racism is not an intellectual construct but its absence. It's "feeling," however much rationalization is larded on after the fact. Hanging out with Trump voters won't get you "reasons" worth homoring with your time. Their reasonings are mush, as are (usually) their abilities to articulate them, because they didn't begin with reasons.
Reminding me, Ed Burmila has a good post on the subject today, too;
http://www.ginandtacos.com/
Dumbfuck Drumpfuck now owns all the violence in Chicago. He said he would ficks it and he has done a remarkable job, not.
Then he went to congratulate Navajo code talkers and embarrassed hizself calling E Warren Pocohontas in front of hero American Indians.
I would say the Democrats' problems are as follows:
1) They need to move leftward on economic policy. They are still sort of mentally stuck in the '80s and '90s, when running with this ideology meant losing elections. Back then, they moved to the center to avoid getting wiped out. But there is more space to move to the left now, and they should take it.
2) As I said, the Dems have to enlarge their voting coalition. They are losing non-educated urban whites, and rural whites of all educational/income levels. While you're not going to reach all of these people -- some are definitely a lost cause -- it is possible to peel off enough of them to make a real difference.
A big part of this will involve finding ways to counteract the right-wing bullshit machine.
3) Even among their existing coalition/base, the Dems are fucking up. They are not good at turning up for elections, particularly in midterm years. Young whites, and non-whites of all ages, do not vote in the numbers they should, but then turn around and get angry at the outcome of elections they didn't bother to vote in.
As an example, even if people were not "enthused" about Hillary Clinton, why was Trump's horribleness not enough to go vote against him? Same thing goes for black voters in Alabama, who polling indicates are not excited about Doug Jones. Okay, but shouldn't hatred of Roy Moore be enough by itself? He's a racist who assaults underage girls! He will work against black Alabamans' interests! Not enough reason to go to the polls?
Obviously, it is always easier to want to vote for your own party's guy, rather than against the other guy. But when the other guy is a monster and you don't show up, that still says there's something wrong with the Democrats' get-out-the-vote efforts.
4) The Democrats have to stop putting all their eggs in one basket. Winning federal elections matters, but winning state and local elections matters, too. More resources should be allocated to lower-level races.
They blew it big-time in 2010, and in a few of the subsequent elections, which is why so many state governments are now in Republican hands.
"Then he went to congratulate Navajo code talkers and embarrassed hizself calling E Warren Pocohontas in front of hero American Indians."
*sigh*
This presidency is one long, continuous face-palm.
"Simply put, a coalition of only non-whites and college-educated urban whites is not big enough to accomplish anything meaningful at the federal level. That's a major problem."
I disagree, if there is a concerted effort to expand their base the Dems could do just fine. For example, if the Dems are able to register 50,000 or more new voters in Texas or Georgia those states could theoretically turn blue. Of course that assumes the Republicans don't pick up new voters but the point still remains there are a lot of new voters out there so yes racists and dullards can be ignored.
"I disagree, if there is a concerted effort to expand their base the Dems could do just fine. For example, if the Dems are able to register 50,000 or more new voters in Texas or Georgia those states could theoretically turn blue."
Flipping Texas or Georgia is an unbelievable long shot in the near term.
However, holding on to states like Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, or Pennsylvania should be readily achieveable, yet Hillary Clinton didn't manage it. (To be fair to her and the Democrats, there were a lot of sleazy Republican/Russian tricks that played a part in that as well.)
But even holding states like those won't be possible if we lump everyone who voted for Trump together as closet Klansmen, because that isn't accurate. I think the latter attitude is coming from a place of anger at these people (which I share, as it happens) for saddling us with our garbage president. It's not helpful, though.
I agree that some of them are accurately described as "dullards," but then again, so are the untapped non-voters you're talking about registering for the Dems. If you're a person who's already not bothering to vote ... there's a decent chance you might be a great big dummy. In a political sense, at least.
One way or another, engaging people and "deprogramming" them from whatever they've learned in any disinformation campaigns will be a part of the job.
Wisconsin, Michigan and pennsylvania were lost by 70,000 votes. Michigan was lost by 30,000. You could have picked up 30,000 votes in Michigan by just focusing on new voters in Detroit, Flint, Muskegeon and Lansing. The focus of the Dems needs to be registering new voters and not trying to get voters they have lost forever. Now as far as Texas and Georgia there are enough unregistered voters in both states to flip them in 2018 if the unregistered are properly motivated. It's up to the Dems to motivate them. If I were the head of theDNC I would turn over every rock trying to figure out the answer to that question.
Crosscheck purged more than those numbers in those states for the high crime of having a similar name, and often not even the same middle name as a voter in another state.
We are winning elections at the statehouse level now, even in fucking Oklahoma, where no-one is speculating about it turning blue. That is what we need the most, and we're actually doing it.
Obama and Holder are focusing on those statehouse races in an effort to un-2010 the districts, and the over the top outrageousness of the Fergus administration is fueling their efforts better than they had hoped.
There is a flood of Democratic first-time candidates right now that is countering one of the largest and most under reported problems in Democratic politics: uncontested elections. We can't win if we don't run.
And probably most important, a very large proportion of those candidates are women. You want available, motivated voters? Try looking at the huge bloc of women who are trying to do something about the attack the Republicans have mounted on their children.
"As an example, even if people were not "enthused" about Hillary Clinton, why was Trump's horribleness not enough to go vote against him?"
They did go vote against him. Everyone keeps leaving that out. She got almost three million more votes than he did. So what you're really saying is "Why did we fail to overcome the Republican cheating that time like we did in '08 and '12?" And the answer to that is twofold (at least) 1) Yes, Hillary didn't campaign as effectively as she could have, and 2) their cheating got much more widespread and effective in '16 than it was in '08 and '12.
We have to address that now if we want to win later. It's possible that we can turn out numbers that will win even in the face of the gerrymandering, vote restriction laws, and outright cheating like crosscheck, but that doesn't work as a strategy going forward, because we won't always have anything as evil as Fergus to drive our turn out.
Which, when you think about it, is how he won in the first place: Things were running pretty smoothly in the government for eight years, and the economy was finally bouncing back, sort of the opposite of the "economic anxiety" canard: If there were still the sort of economic terror that was coming down at the end of the Bush administration, there probably would have been fewer voters willing to risk backing an incompetent who told lies they like.
-Doug in Oakland
anotherbozo said...
Wipipo (thanks, Michael Harriot) often overthink racism. "It can't be that crude and mindless, can it?" Yes, it can be and is. Today's racism is not an intellectual construct but its absence. It's "feeling," however much rationalization is larded on after the fact. Hanging out with Trump voters won't get you "reasons" worth humoring with your time. Their reasonings are mush, as are (usually) their abilities to articulate them, because they didn't begin with reasons.
4:40 PM
- EXACTLY.
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- It's a mental habit that people don't feel like trying to break because they beeeeLEEEEV that it doesn't harm them personally.
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- It does, of course, but the explanation is longer than a bumper-sticker slogan, so they don't feel like trying to follow the logic of it.
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- Economic reactionaries ("conservatives") fall into the same category, although the mental habit there is the beeeeeLEEEF that "I'm not poor so poverty doesn't hurt me so f*ck the poor".
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- Again, the explanation of the ways in which hoards of hungry people harm the nation, and by extension, the reactionaries, is "too long and boring" so they don't feel like trying to follow the logic of it. Oh, sure, they HOLLER about how they "demand reasons", but the fact is, that, too, is nothing more than just another knee-jerk habit.
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- The best one can do is try to talk to the people who still have some skepticism regarding all "too good to be true" claims, and who at least *suspect* that things are nowhere nearly as simple as "get rid of all the [insert name of current ethnic scapegoat] types and their 'lefty suck-ups' and everything will be great and wonderful and sparkly."
- Ethnic cleansing, a.k.a. genocide, has always failed to make things better for anyone but those few who are already in power.
"Then he went to congratulate Navajo code talkers and embarrassed hizself calling E Warren Pocohontas in front of hero American Indians."
And???????????
I have no problem with reporting on Black extremists and racists to let us know what we are dealing with in this country. I do have a problem when we treat them like they are just a bunch of folks with a different political point of view. They are far more dangerous than that; Black-on-White violent crime is vastly more common than the reverse, Blacks account for more than half of US arrests for murder and robbery and a grossly outsized fraction of all other arrests. I don't expect the Marxist power structure that controls the media in this country to understand this, but since they have no sensitivity for Whites who are threatened by these people we have to remove and replace it.
People who hate white picket fences and apple pies hate everything that America is about. They hate peace, productivity and law and order, which are all essential to producing the things they want. If they cannot abide these things they have no business in this country or asking for its benefits and blessings.
"My explanation is that the overwhelming Blackness of political and social commentary is a genuine impediment to understanding Black racist extremists as a genuine, dangerous threat and reporting on them accordingly."
FTFY.
Fergus lost the popular vote, and would have lost the election if not for the way the goddamn Republicans cheat.
Al Franken lost the popular vote, and was only "elected" when 300 ballots were "found" in the trunk of a car during the recount. Without the rampant cheating which gave us Franken, we would not have the disaster of Obamacare.
Now that being said there are a number of my former classmates who are trump supporters and it's kind of offputting to hear some of the borderline racist shit they believe or say. To be honest almost all of the trumpies were the uh, how can we be polite about this, not the brightest bulbs in the pack.
Racism is consistent with reality. You're never going to get rid of it if the races mix.
African non-joke: "What's the difference between a tourist and a racist? About two weeks."
And???????????
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and it proves the president is a racist asshole.
; Black-on-White violent crime is vastly more common than the reverse
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white on white crime is vastly more common than any other so STFU and sweep your own porch you dirty uneducated welfare using methhead.
Racism is consistent with reality. You're never going to get rid of it if the races mix.
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Racism is consistent with the not so bright and undereducated. Now go fuck your sister.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html
Dumb kids are more likely to be racist adults. Anon at 11:27am is proof.
A nitwit mouse said...
People who hate white picket fences and apple pies hate everything that America is about.
- That doesn't even make sense. And there really should be a hell of a lot more to "America" than those trivialities.
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Racism is consistent with reality. You're never going to get rid of it if the races mix.
- "Reality" is obviously a relative term to you. And the thing which perpetuates it is people continually spewing the verbal flatus that it is "inevitable". It is taught. Period. There is no sort of "biological imperative", therefore zero "inevitability". It's a mental habit drilled into kids' minds from birth by unthinking reptile-brain so-called "adults".
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"white on white crime is vastly more common than any other"
Blacks made up 56% of all those arrested for homicide in 2015, and that was before the murder surge from de-policing really got rolling. Blacks also make up 54% of all those arrested for robbery.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-49
You've been given this data several times before, and you are still living in denial.
I'd like to see a USA where 100% of the crime is White-on-White.
We'll have that after all the Africans, Mexicans, Arabs, Indians, Chinese and others have been sent home.
"so STFU and sweep your own porch you dirty uneducated welfare using methhead."
Anyone who attempts to prove something by insult is definitely uneducated and probably dirty.
"the thing which perpetuates it is people continually spewing the verbal flatus that it is "inevitable". It is taught. Period."
It's taught by experience with other races, especially Africans. That's why it only takes 2 weeks to go from tourist to racist, and the people who can afford to be "anti-racist" are those who live in Whitopias or gated communities.
Fuck you and your type. Go shoot a classroom full of kids you insane fuckwads. Now go piss yourself when you see a darkie but it's your own inbred brothers shooting your country asses in Vegas. Of tht's right, it's a false flag op. You are one stupid pedophile.
It's taught by experience with other races, especially Africans. That's why it only takes 2 weeks to go from tourist to racist
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And how would you know? You have never been a tourist because that would involve leaving your trailer park and no self respecting negro would go anywhere near you.
Negroes are a cancer...ccw is the answer.
Negroes are a cancer...ccw is the answer.
James is a dumb pedophile said...
It's taught by experience with other races, especially Africans. That's why it only takes 2 weeks to go from tourist to racist
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And how would you know? You have never been a tourist because that would involve leaving your trailer park and no self respecting negro would go anywhere near you.
3:39 PM
- Oh hell, no self-respecting *White* person would go near him, either! Certainly, none who has more sense than gawd gave a root vegetable needs to take lessons on social etiquette from a spud like James self-balled.
- While that pathetic spud-pud is yearning to pop under-aged virgins and blaming everyone else on the dang planet for "making" him a loser incapable of functioning in normal society, we self-respecting White people who have a modicum of sense are managing to make opportunities for ourselves and others, achieving things, learning throughout life, and - !G!A!S!P! - doing those things simultaneously with getting along reasonably well with people of all different sorts.
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- But spud-pud keeps that death-grip on his delusions that his ethnicity makes him "superior", because being White is the only thing he, and his ilk, have got.
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I've driven the USA from coast to coast and roughly half of Canada on the TransCan, from Winnipeg to Reynosa. I don't fly over "flyover country". I see it up close and personal.
I bet not one of you can say the same.
- You'd lose that bet. Not that you'd ever admit it, of course, because you cannot conceive of ever being in error, since you assume all those who disagree with any word you utter are cretins.
As if what we "racists" are saying is only our own personal opinion, rather than being 100% backed by literally centuries of experience and statistics.
You live in such vehement denial of incontrovertible truths that no one in their right mind would consider you anything other than cretins.
- No, that's yourself you're talking about.
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- Yes, human tribalism exists.
- No, it is not "destiny".
- And no, it does NOT make one racial group superior or give one racial group the right to commit genocide *or* the right to enslave others.
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- The only thing I live in denial of is your nonsense. But don't flatter yourself by believing that it's "vehement" - your bloviating is simply not worth the diversion of that much emotional energy from constructive pursuits.
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"that's yourself you're talking about. "
SJWs Always Project.
"Yes, human tribalism exists.
- No, it is not "destiny"."
Yet you encourage it among "minorities" (White people are a minority world-wide) in Western countries, while punishing any defensive tribalism among Whites. You blame White people for the collapse of cities, ignoring that Black violence and punishment of White self-defense preceded it:
https://devinhelton.com/why-urban-decay
Wonder why this country is headed for civil war? It's your demand that Whites collectively suicide, and their refusal to take it lying down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4axVYZ7NP8
"And no, it does NOT make one racial group superior or give one racial group the right to commit genocide *or* the right to enslave others."
You need to stop believing your own propaganda. We don't want them as slaves; we don't want them, period. You want to pay the dark welfare masses to feed and breed. We would simply stop paying them for that, and instead pay them to leave.
But you're not going to allow that to happen until the US dollar is replaced as the world's reserve currency, which means all the massive borrowing required to finance this mess comes to an abrupt and messy end and we lose any ability to pay for relocation. When all the IOUs turn out to be worthless and the illusion of solvency fades, there's going to be a fight to grab what little real wealth there is. Black criminals and welfare leeches aren't going to be worth anything to anybody except as cannon fodder, and that's exactly what they'll become. Genocide? YOU are forcing it to happen, by not helping to get them all out before the collapse... which would probably prevent the collapse by itself.
OBTW, every "migrant" heading to a White country "for a better life"?
They're endorsing White supremacy. If they thought they could make for themselves what we've got, they'd just stay home and do it. If YOU didn't believe in White supremacy, you'd insist they man up and go back.
But you don't actually believe in racial equality. You believe in White enslavement to the muds, to do for them what they are incapable of doing.
Oh for fuck sakes.
I said:
"Yes, human tribalism exists.
- No, it is not "destiny"."
Baldingo whined:
"Yet you encourage it among "minorities"
- No, *I* do not.
You believe in White enslavement to the muds, to do for them what they are incapable of doing.
- Oh, yes, "the muds".
- This from someone who proclaims himself "A Christian", yet endlessly professes the exact opposite of "the new commandment".
- Frankly, reducing humans to "muds" makes YOU the "mud person". You might be white on the outside, but on the inside, there is only a dark cess pool.
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