And now comes this story from David Gambacarta in one of my hometown papers, the Philadelphia Daily News. See what a false sense of security you NRA apologist can give to folks? Oh stop it field, "guns don't kill people, people do." True, but how come stupid mother fuckers always seem to have guns? Anyway, read this story and tell me what you think:
"It took just a few weeks for Andre Moore to go from YouTube to the slammer.
Members of the state attorney general's Gun Violence Task Force announced Moore's abrupt career change yesterday morning by smashing a battering ram through the door of his West Philadelphia apartment.
The 44-year-old was arrested for calling for the murder of 18th District police officers in a video titled "Dissin' Philly Cops" that he posted on YouTube on June 6, law-enforcement officials said. Moore, who's now been suspended from his job as a security guard at Albert Einstein Medical Center, was less than subtle in his performance.
While waving a gun through the air, Moore said, "I rejoice whenever they shoot a cop in Philadelphia because I hate them," according to a court affidavit containing a transcript of the video.
Later on, he offered instructions on to how to murder cops: "All we need is a Colt .275 to do it. Look, it's easy. You got the chamber, let it go off . . . anywhere in the head or heart . . . continue killing the 18th District police."
The officials said that Moore's 12-year-old son, Andre Jr., filmed the volatile video, and another underage relative held a gun in a second video that Moore posted on YouTube using the screen name "lildre502."
The videos are no longer available on YouTube.
Moore's wife, Tamara, expressed outrage over the incident during a phone interview last night. "I knew nothing about any of this," she said. "Me, my son and our family are very much humiliated by the act Andre did.
"Whatever happens to him, happens. My job is being jeopardized because of this."
Investigators said that District Attorney Lynne Abraham and state Attorney General Tom Corbett became aware of the videos about two weeks ago.
They charged Moore with aggravated assault, corruption of minors, terroristic threats and harassment.
"Obviously, the charges could be challenged in court, but that's out of our hands," said police spokesman Lt. Frank Vanore. "You have rights, but that doesn't mean you can say something like this."
According to court records, Moore was sentenced to five years' probation in 1994 after pleading guilty to charges of simple assault, recklessly endangering another person, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct stemming from an arrest the previous year.
An Einstein spokesman said last night that he had "no knowledge" of Moore's criminal history. The hospital has suspended Moore, pending further investigation, he said.
Police officials were further irked by the fact that Moore worked at the same hospital where Officer Chuck Cassidy died last November after he was shot interrupting a robbery.
"It's a shame he was able to work in a place where one of our officers was taken," said FOP president John McNesby. "He's scum of the earth, and there's not much more you can say about it than that."
Now my first reaction after reading this story was WTF? You mean to tell me that you can get arrested in A-merry-ca now for making a bad You Tube video? But then, this asshole had his 12 year old son film his I wanna be Al Capone bullshit. So my second reaction was, WTF is wrong with some of these brothers out here? Fam. you live in Philly, you see all the police killings that have been going on lately, and, you are a security guard in a hospital. Are you fucking insane? Ahhh, never mind, don't even answer that question. The article did say that your 12 year old son filmed this bullshit, and antoher underaged relative had a gun in another scene. Yep, you are insane. But hey, you had a gun, and I am sure it was easy enough to get. This is, after all, Pistolvania.
Still, a part of me is a little uneasy with this. I mean Philly's finest surf the web and pick up Andre's bad movie and he is charged with aggravated assault and making terroristic threats? Can you say "Big Brother" folks?
Hell I better watch my black ass then, because Lark just might put a restraining order out on me. Philadelphia Blogger charged with stalking former child star. Hmmmm not a good headline. I might have to cool down on the Lark jones just a little bit.
Andre, you lost your freedom, more than likely your job, and judging from your wife's reaction, maybe even your family as well. All because of your little foray into the film business. I hope it was worth it, but somehow I don't think Hollywood will come calling anytime soon.
See the article and You Tube Video here.
59 comments:
What a dumb ass...
Stupidity knows no boundaries.
That's what the dumbass gets, that's what I think. Maybe the crack made him think he was eInvincible and could withstand the long dick of the law.
And what are you doing up so late? A negro's gotta get up early.
foolishness of the highest order...
nothing else to say...
youtube is the crazy person's tv... big brother does well to keep an eye on what is on there...
There was a story in the paper today about 4 high school seniors who held up day laborers for $360 with a plastic gun. One of them is a star athlete and none had criminal records, but the stupidity! I mean what kind of FOOL do you have to be to do something like that? One of the men they robbed took down the license plate number and now the kids [well they're 18 so they're adults] may end up in prison. They deserve some form of punishment but I don't think 5 years in prison would solve things either. But then I read this story and I wonder. On the other hand the Barbie bandits went into a bank with real weapons so....
Please tell me Andre was high at the time and didn't know what he was doing. Why the hell would you put that on the Internet. His ass should have been arrested just for stupidity.
Had he not put it on the web, Big Brother wouldn't have seen it.
His poor wife.
Hey Field, have you heard Nas' new record called Sly Fox? It describes how Fow News have been deceiving the viewers.
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Hold, wait a minute. This Black man is what you Negroes have been pining for, yearning for, longing for; a working, in-home, Black father. A father who spends quality time with his son, teaching him the arts, teaching him a skill. As the olde folks use to say, "Yah can nevvah sassahfy a ni**er, nevvah!" Y'all am nevvah sassisfied, nevvah.
Lil'Dre, see there, this bruh-main love-it-ded his son so tough, that he named his son after himself.
It is has only been recently, that I've come to realize why some Black men call their son duece, or sometimes tre. Hmmm, it is almost enough to make me feel inadequate as a Black father, inadequate as a Black man; almost.
I wonder if Big'Dre gave Lil'Dre cold Popeye's for breakfast; it is Father's Day again Obama, where you at, Jack?
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Field,
I always thought Philadelphia was a cool town, lots to see and do, great historic places and the splendid ethnic food to eat.
But you sure have provided this causal visitor with some interesting insights and perspectives about Philadelphia I never knew before.
Thanks.
As stupid as this man is...other than allowing an underage relative to hold his gun in the other video, did he commit a crime? If he did, does this mean the end of Hollywood cop movies, no more playing NWA and Ice-T from back in the day? What?
Not a rational mind.
YouTube, like the Internet, is one of the greatest examples of the creative extension of technology, and as you point out, one of the worst. Every person with something to say can be a published writer and everyone with a video camera can be a director.
And just as the Internet has been a godsend: e-mail, instant messaging, Google, Wikipedia, etc. and absolute hell: SPAM, phishing schemes, hate sites and blogs, and demented videos.
What a world.
Smack upside the head! ;-o Forgot Computer viruses and computer hackers.
Woozie I never sleep:)
Christopher just don't let my crazy Philly stories scare you away.
Yeah this guy was one dumb f**k. But as Miranda said,should he have been charged with some of the things he was charged with?
Nsangoma,I used to be surprised by some of the things you say,but not anymore:)You are one sick dude.
My goodness, where do you start with this guy? Felonious stupidity?
As far as Big Brother, my company tried to fire me for my blog. I'm sure they'll get me eventually. I guess I shouldn't have called for the CEO to not take compensation when he was busy laying off 2000 workers. My bad.
Funny thing is, I bet if some thug punk was breaking into his (no doubt subsidized) crib, this dumbass wouldnt hesitate to call said cops to protect his pathetic ass.
Field, you seem to play the big brother card pretty hard here. However what would your reaction be if some redneck bubba posted the same crap but instead substituted Negroes for cops?
Would you be as uneasy if he was arrested.
Would you be outraged if he wasnt?
This goes WAAAY over the line here. Mr Andres hatred for cops might be that the cops put a squeeze on whatever criminal activity he was involved in. Perhaps peddling poison to his brothers and sisters?
Putting this farm animal in a cage is a good thing. Its called "Thinning the herd".
This was dumb.... this was something worthly of a smack up side the head by his pissed off wife..... but, equally dumb is our dumb ass DA who will LOSE in court, if he has a half way decent lawyer, because a. it is not assault. b. there is no law against minors possessing a fire arm, especially in the presence of their parent (again stupidity is not against the law) and c.the 1st amendment protects his stupid, dumbass speech.
This is another one of those things that a knee-jerk reaction would say, aw... put his ass in jail. But, when you look at the implications of putting someone in jail for stupidity.... slippery slope!
This is the kind of action that if we had community court, where the neighbors and community were the ones to deal with this instead of the criminal courts, it would be a better outcome for everyone.... the idea being, support the brother out of his stupidity.....
He's an idiot, yes but he has first amendment rights. There is no indication that he himself was immediately planning to shoot anybody.
Good points jody and kat, and my guess is that he will beat most if not all of the charges. As for his job; well, he is f****d with that one.
"Field, you seem to play the big brother card pretty hard here. However what would your reaction be if some redneck bubba posted the same crap but instead substituted Negroes for cops?"
You obviously haven't been reading what I write too long. Of course I would defend "redneck bubba's dumb ass, and his right to see whatever he wants to. In fact, I encourage it. I always want to know where the racist is in the room.
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A big grinning all teeth smile-ee when you say dat cowboy; or do they call them gauchos in Jamaica?
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I had to laugh at how his wife completely washed her hands of him.
Who spends time monitoring Youtube for foolishness like this? I can barely find what I'm looking for when I go on there.
[quote]See what a false sense of security you NRA apologist can give to folks?[/quote]
Indeed Field-Negro - if the authorities simply confiscate all handguns and all toy handguns from our possession this video would never had been made.
This man's wife and kid would not have to suffer.
Now all we have is another BLACK MAN making cash for those who are operating the "Prison Industrial Complex".
Just think Field-Negro - the STATE is going to pay more to lock him up than the hospital was paying him to guard their property. That is life in A-merri-ca isn't it?
Maybe when he gets out of jail and becomes a cashier at that local Dunkin donuts - that tip cup that you avoid might be the difference between his sleeping in a bed or on the streets in a cardboard box. Time to be more charitable Field-Negro.
You have got to change your ways.
un-con feed.... he is not going to jail. he will not be found guilty on those charges.
BTW... what are you doing here? I thought as a devout supporter of the war, that you would be in boot camp on your way to Iraq. What? You didn't go enlist? Can you say, ChickenHawk!!?????
I thought one of the First Amendment exceptions was incitement or tending to incite? I'd say his goose is cooked and unless he gets a jury of n***s rather than black folks (the Chris Rock definition) it's a bet.
And what a wonderful metaphor of the state of us in some communities. Note the female didn't know what the male was doing (yet seems to be the only one w/common sense) and the younger males are just perpetuating the nonsense. Sad.
Not even my boy Alito can save him...;-0
Okay what the guy did was dumb and really bad news. Teaching his boy bad lessons in life would be number one in my book.
But, why is no one commenting on this battering ram shit? Is this SOP for Philly po-lice? Myself, I think that was more than a little over the top.
I don't like Philly cops for the most part myself because they remind me of the pigs I grew up with in Chi-Town. They are some of the rudest cops that I've met in my travels and working all across this country of ours and overseas. The cops in England, excuse me I mean bobbies, are super nice and polite. They don't even wear guns because they have anti-hand gun laws there. The only scarier cops that I've met are the ones in Mexico, but that's another story.
What this man did was bad news, but I believe extreme measures were taken. Do you suppose if it had been a white guy they would have used a battering ram? Well, I guess if he looked like a meth or crack head maybe so.
And it would be a Constitutional slippery slope of a trial. Worse, the Supremes might get involved and start messing with our rights to free speech on the Internet. Those white fat cats in the Capital have been looking for ways to mess with the Internet for years.
But, to me, it really boils down to the lessons passed on to his son. This is what I am talking about all the time, the only way to make good grown ups is to shine by example to our children and grandchildren as much as possible. Which was one of the things that the O Man said in his much maligned daddie's day address.
nsangoma,
Do you just like to say shit to get a rise out of folks? You write well, but most of the shit you write is just flat out insane or ridiculous.
Christopher Chambers,
Ooooh, I had forgotten about that. But, still, as I said, they've been looking for years for a reason to mess with the Internet and this might just be their trial case. Repubbabubbas now have an "Andre" into a Supremes issue.
Field -
Why don't you drop a copy of Obama's father's day speech to this guy in jail?
I'm loving the defense of this guy, a black man teaching two minor children to hate the police and to use violence to solve their problems. His irresponsibility is blowing up his entire family.
I'm a little hard pressed to be worrying about big brother and amendment rights when a black man does something this stupid that hurts his family. He's wrong. Wrong as hell.
And how in the hell did this dude get hired as a security guard in the first place?
@Miranda -
This dude ain't an actor or a rapper, so the comparison makes no sense.
What law schools did you folks attend? Making terrorists threats is a crime where I live. If you can go to jail for shouting fire in a crowded theater, you can certainly go to jail for using minors to make a handbook on how to kill a member of a specific class of people.
Black people will defend other black for anything.
It takes an asshole to do something that would be admired only by other assholes. However, the legaiities here are murky. It could end up with free speech lawyers doing first rate pro bono work for a defendent they personally cannot stand.
Constructive Feedback,
I left you a message from the Wed., 25 June blog, "O' man you are...." 'nuf said.
west coast..... a terroristic threat requires him to say HE was going to kill someone... which he did not.. He is a FUCKING IDIOT!! Of this there is no doubt.... but let me break it down for you...
Ag Assault requires bodily harm.... there was no physical assault, much less bodily harm. Not Guilty
Making Terroristic Threats: He said he hates the 18th district cops and is happy when they die. HORRIBLE, STUPID, IDIOTIC, Not a terroristic threat. He did not say he was going to kill them. Not Guilty
This guy had a $500 thousand bond... which will be reduced as soon as this goes before a judge.
His bond is higher than most who are charged with rape, REAL Ag Assault...
This is why I reiterate... this says more, legally, about our stupid ass DA, WHO WILL LOSE! than him.
Finally, I do not condone or excuse this behavior. As I said, Stupid, Idiotic, Horribly Bad Taste.....
But worthy of 4 Felonies and a $500 thousand dollar bail, No.
Bob,
Nicely but frightenly said.
In a world where I can go to Amazon right now and purchase "The Turner Diaries" or visit Stormfront, Vdare or Vanguard where several serious people debate whether people who look like me should be exterminated or merely deported, I fail to see what crime this man committed.
I hope that he is able to find an attorney who will not only beat the charges but sue the police department. Free speech cuts both ways.
My legs start getting a little shacky when I watch the censorship.
That Baptist preacher during one of John McCain's town hall meeting that ask him if he called his wife [Cindy] a "cunt." Spent two hours with the secret service explaining himself.
A few weeks ago 12 shots rang out behind my house and one in the alley went by my head. Thought I was back in Vietnam after 39 years. Then the next week a guy is lying in the street shot in the ass and kneecap. We have 770 thousand people hear and there is gunfire every night. The police don't even repond unless someone is shot or being shot. Hell, I was better off in West Virginia. At least there most of the time they were shooting in the air.
"terroristic threats?"
Fuck these fascist motherfuckers.
Charge him with being a dumbass, but cut the corpo-fascist bullshit.
Field,
Your side bars sometimes are funny as hell. First you have Shrubby and McFool clutching, looking like Mr. Fool is going for the little man's nuts and now you have Hill-billy and Mr. Drip Air Kissing. Oddest couple I ever saw!
Yuck. I can't even imagine air kissing the Ice Queen. Aargh!
Let me break it down for you Jody. He used minors. He had one waving a gun. If his name was Ahmed, he'd be on his way to Gitmo.
The ag assault might get dropped but the rest is solid. He threatened cops and put it on the internet? He's too farking stupid to be a free man. And he did it with children which is the supreme outrage. Screw him two times. If that had been my kid, it would be MY black ass in jail for more than aggravated assault.
"SagaciousHillbilly said...
"terroristic threats?"
Fuck these fascist motherfuckers.
Charge him with being a dumbass, but cut the corpo-fascist bullshit."
Thank you, Sagacious. And did anyone think more about the mother who's job is threatened? With her dumbass husband in jail, she's most likely the sole provider for the kids. This means that if she loses her job, she's fucked. But her situation is but a punitive extension of her husband's bust like the RICO works. I guess the system gets a two-fer.
Oh, and NSangomo an constructive feedback, I see you guys stopped spooning each other long enough to gang post us today.
West Coast.... thanks to the NRA and all the gun lovers.... a minor in possession of a gun is not illegal! Especially because it was HIS son... Wrong, fucked up, crazy stupid, yes. But illegal, no. He did not threaten cops... he said he was happy when they died. That is not the same as threatening them....
OK... enough of this. I will follow this case and let you know how many of the charges get quashed before trial, and if there is a trial, rather he is convicted of anything... That is if he doesnt have some attorney scare him into pleading.....
Field,
Why do you use these idiots as examples of Gun owners? You are reaching for the absolute worse examples in order to support your beliefs. These aren't responsible, legit, gun owners.... I wouldn't dare defend someone like this. Most gun owners wouldn't either.
He is a criminal who, based on his past, should not have had a gun. PERIOD. This is why i'm in favor of sensible gun control laws.
The families of fallen officers should decide his punishment IMO. I'm sure they can find a nice place for him.
And you labeled all gun owners/gun advocates as stupid MF's.
I think you know better than that Field. You allow yourself to get too carried away sometimes.
Your argument is like someone saying that we should take all vehicles off the road because some people will drink & drive and harm other people, or will drive too fast and cause a deadly accident.
We know that someone will die tomorrow from one of the above vehicle situations... or both.
If i'm not mistaken, The Lautenberg Law should have prevented this guy from having a gun.
Seems as though something broke down somewhere along the line.
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brotherkomrade, I have a BA in math and a MA in quantitative econ; a punk GED mofo'n ni**er nem, can KM natural derrière noir.
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brotherkomrade said...
btw, that's NOT a put-down against gay lovin'.
Wow, that's cool, NSangomhack, that means you memorized theorems, regurgitated, and earned some paper behind that. Too bad the real test of intelligence has to do with critical thinking, because regarding that, you've shown time and again that you wear the dunce cap.
Nsangoma,
I figured you for a wiz, but had no idea. You are still way out there.
Look, I see everyone getting all excited over this whole issue. The fact of the matter is that the courts and lawyers will have to decide on this. I hope it doesn't make it to the Supremes, because, except for one verdict, lately, they are 5 to 4 against the Constitution. Other than that, so be it.
This fellow is a nut and a creep and is teaching his child wrong. For that, he deserves some time. But, the cops using battering rams, that is effed up. That is some scary shit. Would you want that to happen to you? Say you are just talkin' free speech right here, right now, and the next minute, you've got Kill-a-delphia "Po-lice, open up!!!" at your door?
Well, it's something to think about.
I remember when I was a kid in Chi-Town, back during the Demo Convention, and the pigs were 5 abreast chanting, "Kill the f*****g hippies" down my street. Nice, right?
Woah!!! Check this out-----
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2211812/Bill-Clinton-says-Barack-Obama-must-%27kiss-my-ass%27-for-his-support.html
This is why sociopaths shouldn't have power. What a moroon.
F**K Bill. He needs to get the fudge out of Harlem. Obama is not his damn servant.
Whoa,
Bill Clinton, according to that article has some serious angst. This is a scary moment in American politics. If this is the case, than we need to kick the "first black President" out of Harlem!!!
Based on this story, I am disgusted with all of the Hill-billies. You gurls who voted for her should take a look at this article. Men who stick by their women, no matter what, are nut cases. My husband wouldn't agree, but I would. I've made some bad moves and yet my man doesn't want to see them. Dumb on him.
Crazy folk is crazy folk. By the tone and timber of that article, there can't be any other interpretation.
Slick Willy, I used to love you, but don't diss my man and don't diss my partee. I didn't care about your gurls, I didn't care about the politics and the media, I thought you were sumthin.
But now I see that you were all about Bill...or should I say, "All about Bull."
Szechuanpork,
For the most part I don't agree with you and I wouldn't call Bill a sociopath, but that story was quite a surprise (well, not, in my actual heart of hearts). He has been acting weird throughout this fight.
whitney b. Politicians are like pretty white cheerleaders, they can't understand why everyone doesn't love them. The Clinton's thought they had a lock on the nomination and that didn't work out.
Thanks for the info Brother Field. And you got it right just like Whitney B.
There is some way over the top crap being put out on YOu Tube and the television for that matter. As crazy as this guy was and everyone is right to call him names but there is indeed a bigger issue at stake and that is the man's constitutional rights.
And breaking down his door for a video he posted is way over the top. Assault charges? We have to always be aware of the systems attempts to set precedence by using for lack of a better term "throwaway people" you know the Jose Padilla's and stupid black folks and ignorant poor whites to open the door to enact lawless behavior on the part of the system.
This is scary from all angles, the brothers lack of judgement, the systems attempt to nibble at our constitutional rights and the fascist like arrest of the lunatic.
Szechuanpork,
They didn't have a lock down with this white chick. I have been a supporter of the Drip Meister from day one. I will vote for the O' Man, but I am unhappy with the flipping and flopping that has gone on. Politics per usual. One has to accept that I suppose.
What is with the pretty white cheerleaders crap? Yuck. Eegads, are all white folks to be put in quaint little boxes? I am a big, some would say "plain" looking white red headed female. Not fat, not too tall. No one would turn their heads, but I loved Bill Clinton at one time, and I love Barack Obama.
I have always supported the O' Man from the beginning that he announced his candidacy. Yes, he has no political experience, but look how far he as come with the troupe that surrounds him. Is that not intelligence?
Right now we have to deal with the foilbles of the O' Man. Mr. Flipper or Mr. Dripper. But, in the long run, is he not the better candidate to take us from a world which hates us?
Mellaneous,
Over the top is right on!!!
whitney b. "But, in the long run, is he not the better candidate to take us from a world which hates us?" Yes, absolutely.
phuck the philthy cops. Looks like they still haven't come down from the high of killing all those MOVE people back in the day and getting away with it. I see nothing has changed there since the Rizzo days.
"However what would your reaction be if some redneck bubba posted the same crap but instead substituted Negroes for cops?"
The philthy cops would never have gone after such a person.
Let them show up at my door and that battering ram is going up their punk azzes. That's right I said it, so come get me motherfuckers!
An ex felon in possession of a gun, his wife outraged at what he did with their child (obviating permission?) and another kid not his in possession of the weapon, (without his parents permission also?), yeah sure, no laws broken here.
Frankly this dude is an idiot and will not only beat the charges but will sue the Philly Police and city for a lot of money and win. Moore will win this case because he didn't threaten anyone or authorized any person to kill Police Officers, he merely stated he was happy when he saw dead cops.
I have seen white racialists on You Tube advocate the killing of Blacks, Jews, Homosexuals and Hispanics and if we are going to throw people in jail shouldn't Ted Nugent be charged with threating a Senator when onstage and his writings, he advocated killing Sens. Obama and Clinton which is a federal crime and can get you 20 years.
This is Police Harrassment at it's worse and the D.A. ought to be fired for pressing these charges but I am more afraid for the Black Men in Philly who already fear the cops and criminals. Moore just made it even more dangerous with his rhetoric.
He gave a gun to a kid to demonstrate. I know we don't give a darn about kids but this really is taking it to a new unsavory level. I don't care what white people get away with. Let our poor put upon victim file an equal protection cause of action, then, but what he did with these kids is illegal.
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