As hurricane Gustav churns towards the "boot"; my thoughts, first and foremost, are with my friends, loved ones, and in laws. Those poor folks will be doing everything that they can to ride out this potentially devastating storm. Still, I can't help but think of the irony of the entire situation. (Maybe there is a god) Almost three years to the date after the frat boy and his incompetent administration fucked over the *residents of an entire city, his party has been forced to cut back on their coronation of Mr. Morton and the beauty queen.
Personally, I love it. Not the storm, but the fact that those assholes had to change their plans because of it. They just couldn't have the rest of the A-merry-can people thinking that they are heartless and uncaring, and that they are throwing a major party while the Big Easy takes yet another hit.
And now I hear that the frat boy, and his side kick (Dead Eye Dick) will be skipping the convention to "monitor" the situation. My question to the frat boy would be: why? A-merry-ca already considers you a an incompetent buffoon, and no matter how hard you try, you will never get us to get those images and your handling of Katrina out of our minds. I know you think this is your second chance to get it right, but it's not. You get no second chance, not after the way you fucked up your first one. "Brownie you are doing a heck of a job". Remember those infamous words frat boy? They will go down along with "Mission Accomplished" as words which will define your administration, and your presidency.
Folks, let's be clear, Katrina is what doomed this administration in the eyes of many A-merry-cans. A lot of people could live with the Iraq war, after all, countries do go to war. People like moi might not like it, but there are some folks who 
think it's necessary, and quite a few people in A-merry-ca were fine with Iraq. But not the handling of Katrina. The republicans were supposed to be the grown up party, the folks who could always be counted on to be competent. The democrats, on the other hand, are the ones with the great ideas, but they can never carry them out. Katrina changed all of that. It showed the rest of the country that republicans were just as incompetent and clueless when it comes to getting things done as the democrats were. It showed us that in spite of all of his rhetoric, the frat boy only cared about hooking up his incompetent ass friends. As a result, many of you started looking at the Iraq war from a totally different perspective. If this man couldn't take care of a crisis in our own back yard, how can we trust him to prosecute a trillion dollar war to influence foreign policy? The frat boy never recovered from Katrina, and even the clowns on FOX were forced to acknowledge that he blew it.
think it's necessary, and quite a few people in A-merry-ca were fine with Iraq. But not the handling of Katrina. The republicans were supposed to be the grown up party, the folks who could always be counted on to be competent. The democrats, on the other hand, are the ones with the great ideas, but they can never carry them out. Katrina changed all of that. It showed the rest of the country that republicans were just as incompetent and clueless when it comes to getting things done as the democrats were. It showed us that in spite of all of his rhetoric, the frat boy only cared about hooking up his incompetent ass friends. As a result, many of you started looking at the Iraq war from a totally different perspective. If this man couldn't take care of a crisis in our own back yard, how can we trust him to prosecute a trillion dollar war to influence foreign policy? The frat boy never recovered from Katrina, and even the clowns on FOX were forced to acknowledge that he blew it. Now, almost three years later, as we count down the days for this human version of Katrina to leave office, we are faced with yet another storm. It's as if god is saying; I am going to give you one more hit frat boy, because you fucked up the first one so bad. And for good measure, I am going to bring it right in the middle of your parties' convention. Let's see all those praying folks pray their way out of this one. I know they were praying for the rain to hit Obama on his big night, but I had some different plans.
Anyway, let's keep the folks on the Gulf Coast in our thoughts. And let's hope that they ride this one out without any loss of life or serious injuries.
As for the folks up in St. Paul; I wish them all a safe trip home.......
*Thanks for the correction Liz :)
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MAYBE..just MAYBE the folks that live there will listen this time and getout!?!?!?!
I guess now we know whose side God is on. The evangelicals prayed as hard as they could for a rainstorm to hit Denver on the 28th of August, but She had other plans.
Remember, almost 3 years to the day (August 29, 2005) while Katrina was about to slam into New Orleans and the Gulf Coast, Bush was in Arizona for a photo op with, none other than Mr. McCain cutting a birthday cake for Mr. McCain. And after the chummy photo op, George returned to Crawford for a spot more of vacation. No need to worry about Katrina, political appointee and former horse show maven, Heckuva Job Brownie was on the case.
So now McCain and a small entourage of Cindy, his veep, and reporters are converging on the Gulf area along with Mr. Bush and Hurricane Gustav.
And McCain had the audacity to criticize Obama for taking reporters with him when he visited the troops!
Even with everything lined up against the RNC winning in Nov (Bush, Iraq, the economy, oil prices, now their convention had to adjust for Gustav), I still don't see how Obama will win enough Electoral College votes in the south the claim victory. I think this election comes down the Ohio and Penn and the 41 votes between them. In the end will the real question is most of America “pull the lever ” for a black man with a Muslim name?
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Tax payers should not have to continually pay for this.
Do not live on the flood plain of a river.
Do not live on marshland:
Do not live on a freshwater tidal flat.
Do not live on a saltwater tidal flat.
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Field:
Dick and Frat boy can afford to skip the convention because there were not keynote speakers. In fact, they were speak on Monday when hardly anyone would be watching because of Labor Day. I mean they have to put on a good appearance and make it seem that are doing something in the last few months in office.
I do not know if things will be different and will have to see what happens. I think Dick and Frat will fare a little better but not much. I was listening to the news today and the computer system that was keeping track of the evacuatees crashed meaning the information is lost and they will have to keep track of the people manually. Unbelievable.
Kevin:
Currently, with the states voting and leaning towards Obama is currently at 260 electoral votes while McCain has 176. There are nine toss up states. Obama is ahead in he polls in PA which as turned blue, and Ohio is leaning towards Obama. The South isn't in play because McCain has those states. It appears according to the map today that the West will determine the election. Colorado and Montana is leaning towards Obama, but it could change. Currently, Obama is even ahead in the polls in Alaska, but will see how the MCain/Palin factor will come into play after the RNC next week. There are 102 electoral votes up for grabs, and 270 is needed to win the election. Which means that it will close race. There are 500,000 unregistered black voters in Georgia, and if you could register them so that they could vote for Obama, you could change the result in that state.
The Irony of ironies. That Pastor Dobson's prayers were answered but in the wrong direction. I bet he didn't see that coming.
Ultimately New Orleans will sink and there's not much we can about it at this point. The human induced destruction of barrier wetlands and marshes has softened the area up as ocean levels and the Gulf rise.
This warming could raise global sea levels by up to three feet this century and perhaps as much as five feet, which is bad news for costal areas everywhere. So how much more should ourcandidates be talking about the global crisis we all face? Just another science issue that gets short shrift in this campaign.
Filled Negro. In one day I get the opportunity to cut and paste my own words used to challenge the logic and reasoning of another Negro on a similar challenge.
So Filled Negro:
Can you find ONE SINGLE INITIATIVE that has been introduced ORGANICALLY by the PEOPLE OF NEW ORLEANS to ASSIST in SAVING THEMSELEVES in the event of another storm?
* Is there a CIVILIAN EVACUATION CORPS where otherwise UNEMPLOYED and UNEMPLOYABLE men and women are asked to COME INTO SERVICE for their OWN COMMUNITIES, learn vital evacuation coordination skills so that none of their OWN PEOPLE might suffer the threat of drowning ever, ever again?
* Can you find any PROPOSAL which sells these ORGANIC plans to the PEOPLE based on the concept long vocalized by PROGRESSIVES ---- "Money Is Not Everything". The "lives of OUR OWN PEOPLE are worth more than that which the lack of money distributed to us from far, far away should PREVENT US FROM........DOING FOR SELF?"
FILLED NEGRO (I just replaced his name with yours at this point)- STRAIGHT UP SERIOUS MAN. I know that you are not an ignorant brother. You are an educated man and a Black man. Find me ONE IOTA of such a movement that has transpired ANYWHERE in New Orleans from a grass-roots, ORGANIC star and I will shake your hand as a brother with consciousness about himself which flows both ways (in and out).
Are YOU going to be in the crowd that does not fall for the RACIAL GRAVITATIONAL PULL when the usual suspects make the case that BUSH IS TRYING TO PREVENT BLACK FOLKS FROM RETURNING to this "Black City" now that we see that certain parts of this city is DANGEROUS to their plans for living a long life?
(Please do NOT bring WHITE FOLKS who live near national forests that burn down every few years. The POPULATION DENSITY is NOTHING close to that of N.O.)
Where will you stand? Racial pandering or preventing people of little means from returning en masse in harms way?
" I think this election comes down the Ohio and Penn and the 41 votes between them. In the end will the real question is most of America “pull the lever ” for a black man with a Muslim name?"
Kevin, you nailed it, and the answer is, no.
gwpriester, thanks for reminding me, and pissing me off all over again.
"MAYBE..just MAYBE the folks that live there will listen this time and getout!?!?!?!"
anon. 5:39PM, maybe, just maybe, their president will finally give a damn!
"The Irony of ironies. That Pastor Dobson's prayers were answered but in the wrong direction. I bet he didn't see that coming."
grata, I am starting to like god, she might be pretty cool after all.
nsangoma, I would agree with you, but I happen to like NO, it's a pretty cool city, and I think it's worth saving. Shit happens. Cali might be in the ocean in five years because of the big quake.
Katrina pisses me off every time I think about how I watched people die right before my eyes, begging for water, medication, and food on national tv in a country that is supposed to be one of the riches counties in the world. Children crying and pleading for help. I watched senior citizens dying in the hot sun, and the miserable conditions that human beings were forced to endure because of a RETARDED president who cares about nothing but MONEY!
NO MORE BUSH! NO MORE MCCAIN!
(Please do NOT bring WHITE FOLKS who live near national forests that burn down every few years. The POPULATION DENSITY is NOTHING close to that of N.O.)
Those "white people" or whomever else should not be living in a fire climax ecosystem. We extinguish fires that should be allowed to burn naturally until detritus in forests reach a point where huge fires break out that cannot be controlled. It's time we start dealing with the consequences of overpopulation and human induced environmental problems.
"(Please do NOT bring WHITE FOLKS who live near national forests that burn down every few years. The POPULATION DENSITY is NOTHING close to that of N.O.)"
I just gave you an entire state (California) what else do you want? And let's not forget our friends on the plains who get hit with devastating tornadoes every year. Geez! Honest to god your logic is stultifying.
Please get a new pony, I think this one is out of tricks.
[quote]Do not live on the flood plain of a river.
Do not live on marshland:
Do not live on a freshwater tidal flat.
Do not live on a saltwater tidal flat.[/quote]
Nsomnia:
You speak of the LOCAL POLICY DECISIONS that have placed all of these people in harms way but fail to directly call them out as such.
NSomnia - I live in a city that has its shares of ZONING FIGHTS. There have been some knock down, drag out fights over changing zoning permits to allow for construction on 100 year flood zones or not. These are DECISIONS that were made by the LOCALS. There are benefits.....there are CONSEQUENCES.
NSomnia - please take off your partisan hat and put on your REAL PROGRESSIVE HAT for a minute. Image that the people of the Lower 9th Ward (which is between 25 and 32 feet below sea level when I walked the place with GPS in hand last year) was positioned next to a CHEMICAL PLANT.
This chemical plant was a potential threat to the people who lived near by. In 3 years 2 incidences in which mass evacuations were executed.
After the second incident the city leaders and actor-vists representing the BEST INTERESTS OF THE COMMUNITY huddled together to talk about the FUTURE.
NSomnia if there was a strident group of operatives who fought the condemnation of the area as a safe place to live for human beings........WOULD YOU CONCLUDE THAT THEY WERE OPERATING IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE or in support of some other interest which did not have these interests in mind?
Please tell me the difference from this situation here with respect to the damage that the operatives are doing to the safety of the people placed in harms way?
This is Bush's JOB. Damn, the media acts as if he's going out of his way to be competent this time. And where the hell is Cheney? He supposedly canceled his speech at the convention. Is this fool gonna prepare sandbags? Hell nawl. His big ass is at home sitting up. They were both advised not to come, since they are both unpopular with the public. I say let McCain's new VP get out there and work since the wilderness is supposed her forte.
[quote]guess now we know whose side God is on. The evangelicals prayed as hard as they could for a rainstorm to hit Denver on the 28th of August, but She had other plans.[/quote]
Democratic Socialist - it is clear that you have the same small amount of human compassion that your form of government ultimately squeezes out of the masses who suffer from the government religion that is ultimately imposed upon them.
The KOOKS that prayed for rain in Denver were seeking to disrupt Obama's speech. Umbrellas would have cured that problem.
You have the ignorant audacity to compare a major storm on the Gulf Coast where likely thousands of people will lose their home to some PARTISAN GIFT FROM GOD to disrupt the GOP convention?
Those "white people" or whomever else should not be living in a fire climax ecosystem. We extinguish fires that should be allowed to burn naturally until detritus in forests reach a point where huge fires break out that cannot be controlled. It's time we start dealing with the consequences of overpopulation and human induced environmental problems.
Arson is not a natural occurence. Neither is firing off a flare gun because your stupid ass got lost and disoriented in a forest while hunting.
I almost became homeless three times because of these "natural" occurences so back off.
[quote]Katrina pisses me off every time I think about how I watched people die right before my eyes, begging for water, medication, and food on national tv in a country that is supposed to be one of the riches counties in the world. Children crying and pleading for help. I watched senior citizens dying in the hot sun, and the miserable conditions that human beings were forced to endure because of a RETARDED president who cares about nothing but MONEY![/quote]
Granny:
Can I ask you a question?
When you tap into your outrage over Katrina and thus are COMPARING IT to some other STANDARD that should have been met with regard the the Federal Government executing a mass resuce in a flood zone, where all first and second line communication systems were destoryed......with everything else being the same you your mind's view......could you detail for us WHAT REFERENCE YOU HAVE as to the "perfect rescue" that causes you such angst?
As I listen to you all. As I watch BOTH the SCIENTIFIC reviews of what happened in Katrina (Watch Nova - another showing is coming up soon) as well as the "Spike Lee propaganda version" of events I am drawn to ask you all - aside from the fact that the storm HAPPENED and that people were suffering and crying - WHAT REFERENCE do you tap as your source of proof that if evil Bush was not in charge......anything would have been substantially different in the outcome?
I have calculated 236,000 hours between Hurricane Betsy and Hurricane Katrina yet some of you find more fault in what was done in the 96 hours between the breach of the levees and the full scale federal rescue operation. (Please note - as you can see from Nova or the Discovery Channel "Violent Earth" episodes there was a continuous "federal rescue effort" from day one. The assembly of the resources to do a COMPREHENSIVE RESCUE by ground transportation with the buses having to come in from regions of the southeast and southwest that were not damaged is where the PERCEIVED delay came from.
Though I agree a FOOD DROP should have been orchestrated on Wednesday or Thursday to the convention center.
So again Granny - what is your reference to PERFECTION or are you simply doing "anger transference"?
Sadly this "Katrina Threat" has turned into a political cheerleading and strategy session.
[quote]In the end will the real question is most of America “pull the lever ” for a black man with a Muslim name?"[/quote]
Filled Negro for THIS BLACK MAN this election is for me a VOTE OF CONFIDENCE or NO CONFIDENCE in the MACHINE THAT ALREADY DOMINATES the governance of every single Black majority district in America.
Am I happy with their ability to keep our streets safe
Am I satisfied with their ability to educate our children
Am I satisfied with their ability to create an economic environment which allows the local residents to engage in commerce while the people servicing them are employed?
Do the policies of this machine allow many of these communities to have the RED PUSH PIN that marks their area on the CDC crisis map for communicable diseases or is the "Red District" maps that the CDC has controlled by this particular machine?
Here is my research on the fiasco known as St Louis MO and the great damage that is being done to upwards of 30,000 Black students attending school there.
http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2008/08/aaron-x-wants-to-extend-st-louis.html
[quote]I say let McCain's new VP get out there and work since the wilderness is supposed her forte.[/quote]
ave:
And what say you about the New Orleans city council and mayor who are ACTUALLY IN POWER over the people of that particular city? Does John McCain or Sara Palin have any direct POWER over New Orleans?
Or is your rant yet another unchecked rant that is never challenge on this board of ideological masturbation?
Filled-Negro you are better than this man. Stop providing the KY jelly and have your people to realize that their ARGUMENTS are made BETTER when THEY ARE CHALLENGED for their accuracy rather than allowed to be amplified. How are you going to fix Southwest Philly unless you challenge the people about their assumptions? (Especially the guy who told you of his plans to sell drugs and you did nothing about this information)
I wonder what is going through the mind of James Dobson now? He should know better than to tempt God!
field...seriously, uncon is getting more obsessed with you and now he is getting all creepy sexual.... add that to the very creepy mask... and well... I think you really should consider a restraining order....
The kicker is Sarah Palin recently said that if extreme weather and environmental changes are happening, humans have nothing to do with it!
[quote]And what say you about the New Orleans city council and mayor who are ACTUALLY IN POWER over the people of that particular city? Does John McCain or Sara Palin have any direct POWER over New Orleans?
Or is your rant yet another unchecked rant that is never challenge on this board of ideological masturbation?[/quote]
challenged
Consider it constructive feedback.
nsangoma-I AM my brother's keeper.Better to use money to HELP fellow amerikkans than build a $1 million dollar bomb to be dropped on civilians.
- WHAT REFERENCE do you tap as your source of proof that if evil Bush was not in charge......anything would have been substantially different in the outcome?
nonconstuctive- where are y'all buying those blinders from, I need some maybe I can ignore the facts, jump from subject to subject, bring up old shit and what if too
You want some Irony Filed... there is people "still" in New Orleans planing on waiting this out... yes after all the warnings and advisories and guess what... they are going to WAIT THIS OUT!!! What are you flipping nuts! This is what you want to blame on President Bush?
There is Post Civil War laws that basically says you the feds cant bust into a state like Tommy Lee Jones and start running the show.
If you wanna get partisan this time around, all the Governors of TX,LA,MS, AL and FL are on top of this and they just happen to be Republican... yes Republican. The 1st responders are on top of this, even Mayor Nagan himself so what is left... someone is the friendly confines of Philly to just player hate... yes player hate. This also goes to the rest of you that believe that the Feds should save your ass any time a natural disaster happen.
It was a fucking shame to see black people so helpless and you want them to be just that... helpless. This is why I come in here and saber rattle to just say "hey its ok to think for your selfs black people"
Dose anyone reading this have: flashlights, extra water, full gas can, can food and a disaster plan or are you waiting on the government to hand that too you also?
Field, no matter how well they get it right, as long as the Frat Boy is in Office, he and McCaint will still be compared to their actions during Hurricane Katrina, three years ago.
You can't make this shyt up. And he will never get past Katrina until he leaves office. Period.
Where did these black people get all those American flags? I count three in the picture.
What the hell: did they have to remind potential rescuers that they were Americans, too?
I have never owned an American flag that I have bought myself, not even one of the small ones that Don King is so fond of waving to remind people of his patriotism, so that he can K.O. a few court suits before he gets in the ring.
My nephew, who served a tour or two in the Iraqi arena, sent me one of those nice, glass-enclosed ones, neatly folded, or I wouldn't have one now.
Lest you think I'm not patriotic, let me hastily add: I volunteered four years of my life to the military, and was honorably discharged.
I have a thousand reasons not to fly the flag, and have only recently begun to think that maybe I would, if Obama is elected as this nation's next president.
I'm still undecided, and am not sure that I can accept the flag as a running mate for the reminder of my life.
Dr. King stated one dream, the fulfillment of which, will cause me to hoist my flag and hoist it high:
"And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.
I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."
This is the true American dream.
Not a house with two cars. Not a well-paying job, and a chicken in every pot.
You can have all of that, and still rot in the sun on a overpass in the sweltering New Orleans' muggy heat, after the passing of a destructive storm that was ironically called, Katrina*.
Give me that part of Dr. King's dream, and I'll fly my flag, and fly it proudly.
*Katrina: (Greek) "pure".
Looks like New Orleans will be spared the worst of the wind & rain, but it's the storm surge & levees that matter most.
Tonight's cable news coverage would have been totally devoted to the Repug convention. But the only question being discussed was: Is it better for McCain that Bush won't be in St. Paul tomorrow?
Number of words in Field's blog post: 675
Number of words so far in Constructive Feedback's comments to original post: 1484
You should run for office some day.
Start locally, then move your way up.
As one who has the power to get people into office, my admiration for you should be interpreted kindly.
As usual, you've left me with something (many things) to think about during long, boring drives to (wherever).
George Malik Mahdi
Constructive:
My dad was born in New Orleans and that is where the majority of his family lives—a huge family that has a long history there. That side of my family has lived there generation after generation. The first generation of that side of my family came there after the Haiti Revolution. One of my grandmother’s sisters was 103 years old, but most of her sisters lived to be that old. My aunt was one of the victims of Katrina.
Now, I don’t know how you feel about your family, but I do know how I feel about mine. Granny likes to remain CIVIL with folks even if I disagree with them—mutual dignity and respect is what it’s called. Therefore, I’m gone pass on answering your question in order to maintain that standard. I’m not gone let you go there with me. I don’t like talking about Katrina and that is all you need to know.
Great news: Dick Cheney has FLED THE COUNTRY because of Gustav. So we are spared listening to him bloviate at the convention.
I guess he doesn't want to be told to go fuck himself again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3SemYQH-8o
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CulturalStrategist, the Saint Louis MO public schools have been taken over by the state of Missouri.
Tuition for the 2008-2009 school year at the independent school, http://www.jburroughs.org in Saint Louis MO, is $19,450 or about $1,620 a month over 12 months. Other charges – for books and field trips – can cost an additional $800-$1000 a year. Twice the annual per student annual cost of the Saint Louis public school system.
It t'would seem that in Saint Louis MO at least, excellent ACT and SAT scores cost $20K per annum.
I wonder where Aaron X sends his children to school, Saint Louis public or Saint Louis independent?
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[quote]Almost three years to the date after the frat boy and his incompetent administration fucked over the residence of an entire city, his party has been forced to cut back on their coronation of Mr. Morton and the beauty queen.
Personally, I love it. Not the storm, but the fact that those assholes had to change their plans because of it[/quote]
Filled-Negro:
This time I suffered through reading your entire post. You know what Filled-Negro: I think that you Jody, The Christian Liberal and other are SCARED.
You know that your PROPAGANDA is not going to save the people in New Orleans when and if your dream comes true and yet we are talking about Hurricane Lorretta in 3 years from now. The same thing is going to happen because the SAME PEOPLE will be ON THE GROUND - as residents needing to be evacuated. As rescuers seeking to help them.
All you all are are POLITICAL OPERTUNISTS in the worst kind of way. New Orleans is NOT suffering because GOD "hates Fags" as Falwell said OR as various Progressive-Fundamentalists have said recently: God hates Republicans. Both statements are highly CONTEMPTIBLE AND IGNORANT!!!!
What allows you to sit back and (what did you say on your blog Kellybelle?) "Craft The Narriative" that is most favorable to your ideological agenda - the PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM ALL OF THESE STORMS IN NEW ORLEANS are left suffering. Not by EVIL BUSH but by BAD PUBLIC POLICY that has them LIVING BELOW SEA LEVEL IN A FLOOD PLAIN with 3 major bodies of water surrounding them and limited means to evacuate themseleves.
Some of you SOULESS BASTARDS need to keep this in mind and abate your ignorat ideological attacks.
SoldBrother - you ask me all of the time "What am I doing to help?". I don't feel the need to tell you a DAMNED THING that you are not willing to ALSO ask of those who are YOUR VICTIMS in support of their own salvations. Today, however, I am going to respond to the news report for assistance of the New Orleans evacuees who are now in Villa Rica Georgia at a Red Cross center. I will take my two children out there with a car load of the supplies that they need so they are more comforted in their time of need.
Yes - this DETATCHED CONSERVATIVE Black man is responding to BLACK PEOPLE IN NEED.
I wish that you all LEFTIST PROGRESSIVE-FUNDAMENTALISTS would one day learn that the best time to be SOCIALISTS is ON YOUR OWN by your OWN INITIATIVE rather than seeking a freaking GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER to accomplish your goal. Show me you CARE about the people by WHAT YOU DO AS INDIVIDUALS. Show me you CARE about a clean environment BY you PARKING YOUR POLLUTING CAR FIRST.
Show me you care about a LIVING WAGE by putting a $10 bill in the tip cup at Dunkin Donuts showing that YOU value the WORKER and his NEEDS more than your perceived VALUE of what he is selling to you.....After all THIS IS THEY TYPE OF ABSTRACTION FROM REAL VALUE THAT YOU ARE ASKING EVERYONE ELSE TO DO IN SUPPORT OF PEOPLE.
Start with YOU!!!
[quote]CulturalStrategist, the Saint Louis MO public schools have been taken over by the state of Missouri.[/quote]
NSomnia:
St Louis (which in my research has all but ONE of its 19 member city council being DEMOCRATS. Which has NOT ELECTED AN evil REPUBLICAN city wide since 1970 - kinda like Southwest Philly) is YET ANOTHER example of a FAILED CITY that is ran by PROGRESSIVES.
I presented this research to Aaron X to show that HE is no policy expert and that if his policies were expanded nationally- MORE PEOPLE would be hurt as are the kids in the St Louis School District.
NSomnia - you all have so much that is perverted. CITIES were originally chartered because the formerly UNINCORPORATED land mass had the PEOPLE, the RESOURCES, the BUSINESSES and the POLITICAL LEADERSHIP to the point where upon receiving a CITY CHARTER from the STATE LEGISLATURE they were of the belief that their local resources could better serve the individuals WITHIN than what was the case when the COUNTY or THE STATE were providing these services to them.
In 2008 PROGRESSIVISM has BLOWN THIS CONCEPT TO HELL!!! Now we see that dinosaur cities such as St. Louis, Philadelphia and Chicago are NOT ABLE TO PAY FOR the quality of BASIC SERVICES that their residents need......SO THEY MUST TURN TO AN EXTERNAL SOURCE FOR FUNDING of these BASIC SERVICES.
Thus the original charge that a CITY be able to FUND THE BASICS for it to even become an INDEPENDENT city has been morphed into NATIONALIZED ENTITLEMENTS for even the basics.
In truth NSomnia what we are seeing is that the FAILED ECONOMIC POLICIES that are rampant in these same cities are not able to generate the resources that the large, unyeilding and bloated social services network within these cities need to sustain themselves. These cities are in RECEIVERSHIP. It is only in the crafty mind of the Progressive that these failures have been masked as they demand that the STATE and next the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT provide all of the cash.
The current fight in Chicago is for the funding of 408,000 school children. With a budget of $3.6 BILLION the state ALREADY pays $1.6 BILLION or 44% of the schools tab - because the CITY ITSELF can't pay its own bills. Despite this 44% tally those who are infected with this strain of fundamentalism that affects their thinking are charging the state with a CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATION for FAILING to pay MORE!!!
They are not going to argue the other way - that THE ECONOMIC SYSTEM as assembled in this, the strongest Democratic cities in the nation does not have a system that can care for its own. (See Filled-Negro believes that MY FACTS stated make me a "partisan" rather than a stater of facts. If I some how blamed the Republicans for this failure I would be a good guy. Exempt there are so few of them around in Chicago to blame)
Field,
I was associated with Emergency Response within the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Our job was to provide guidance and essentials in the event of a catastrophic excursion. That's what the bigger government entities do, take over when the locals are overwhelmed.
To the putz that has the fantasy of self-sufficiency...you are about 10,000 years too late. Incestual tribe-families may have been totally on their own...but they died from nearly every downtick in their immediate environment. We band together to obtain benefits. Otherwise every person would dream of McMansions and underpaid Messicans. And women that were subservient or dead.
It wasn't just Brown. Yeah, he was over his head and a nepotistic choice...but he told you-all the truth. Chertoff, Secretary of Photo-Ops, did even less. Field, speak to some of the Philly ER crew and they'll opine that Chertoff is worse...he still has his job.
Do it by yourself. Feh! I'd love to see libertarian Cheetoh eaters deal with the meltdown of the Royerford Nuke. Or the shutdown of the Schuykill Filtration Plant. Or a complete and utter blockage of the 'SureKill Expressway'.
Jacknapes think that because they can operate a generator from BigLots that they can do ER planning. Sorry low-informations, it takes more than a Skeletor costume. You actually have to do the actual work.
Mold
[quote]Now, I don’t know how you feel about your family, but I do know how I feel about mine. Granny likes to remain CIVIL with folks even if I disagree with them—mutual dignity and respect is what it’s called. Therefore, I’m gone pass on answering your question in order to maintain that standard. I’m not gone let you go there with me. I don’t like talking about Katrina and that is all you need to know[/quote]
grannystandingfortruth:
Me, unlike FilledNegro, has a baseline of respect for those who I disagree with. I imagine that you are a respectible lady who has lived her long life and are committed to doing the right thing lest you would not be around.
Though you did avoid my question as I attempted to get you to articulate your line of reasoning in which you think of one of the largest storms ever to hit the Gulf Coast and yet you can only get mad at evil George Bush - I will respect the possibility that part of the irrationality that you suffer is because of the pain that you saw and thus you are experiencing "mental transferrence" as a coping mechanism.
The fact remains Granny - the people of New Orleans are ultimately going to be saved by realizing that:
1) They are now in grave danger as they are stationed close to 3 major bodies of water with only cement and dirt protecting them as they are in houses that are below sea level
2) if they choose to stay they need to focus on developing a CIVILIAN RESCUE SERVICE where each resident is charged with teaming up with a "buddy" and insuring that they cooperate to evacuate during an approaching storm.
3)The building codes for their city needs to not only focus on the "green materials" that Angelina Jolie and her husband are pushing but that they consider the hardened cement structures that Jamiaca and Cuba have been forced to go through after years of being battered.
Granny - I strongly suspect that in 3 or 4 more years from now - we will be glued to the tv sets yet again watching a storm cut through the beloved region.
There will be a NEW PRESIDENT, Granny, but the SAME OLE SAME will be the outcome. WHO will you be blaming then Granny?
It seems that the "shame on you (Bush) " and then "shame on ME next time" needs to be applied by you and others before a REAL fix can be found to remove these people from harms way.
"Where did these black people get all those American flags? I count three in the picture.
What the hell: did they have to remind potential rescuers that they were Americans, too?"
Maybe they were dropped on them by the National Guard. It would have been so typical of the rethugs. Let them eat flags instead of food:)
I bet that uncons.. feed... will bring a flag or two to those evacuees he is going to help ***me rolling my eyes***
How much of a tax break are you going to get unc...feed...? I know you rethugs don't do anything for charity without a tax break.
"Great news: Dick Cheney has FLED THE COUNTRY because of Gustav.."
Hmmm, no wonder the air felt so clean this morning.
Sorry George, I am afraid I wouldn't get elected if I ran for office. Not many like minded socialist,progressive, secularist in our fine country :)
Jody, could you get your firm to work on that TRO for me? I think I miight need it soon :)
I think Gustav SAVED the GOP. Think of the contrast between Barack and the Democrats convention and McMean and the Repugs convention? It would have been stark!
[quote]It wasn't just Brown. Yeah, he was over his head and a nepotistic choice...but he told you-all the truth. Chertoff, Secretary of Photo-Ops, did even less. Field, speak to some of the Philly ER crew and they'll opine that Chertoff is worse...he still has his job.[/quote]
Mold: While Filled-Negro's job is to free CRIMINALS who have assaulted people in their own communities in Philly, in my job I work with a variety of organizations - including GOVERNMENTS - assisting them in their COMMUNICATIONS.
From my second-hand point of view in working with various "first responders" - (hospitals, police, federal, etc) I can tell you - ALL OF THE COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEMS IN NEW ORLEANS WERE WASHED AWAY. No telephone, no police radio, no cellphones, NOTHING!!
When you are in a situation when all of the first line comms and the second line systems are destroyed - all bets are off with having a detailed and coordinated rescue until some makeshift system is restored. (Portable transmission towers with generator backup, etc).
As I listen to you all rant about the "Failure" of the Katrina rescue and then reference the LOGISTICAL details about the challeges about a flooded, wind-damaged city where major roads and bridges are destroyed - the differences in the CREDIBILITY of the two versions are immense.
I did not say "self-sufficient" in the sense that everyone is going to "save themselves". I said have the people ORGANIZED in advance of the threat so that they are following a prescribed path rather than being without a plan and thus being one of more than 20,000 people in need of rescue.
Please detail how an ADVANCED PLAN where the citizens of this city which is below sea level is a bad thing?
Feed:
It is the local, federal, and state agencies job to have an evacuation and disaster plan. Of course, as I am individual I need to be inform of what the plans are, and it's their responsibility to give that information to the public. The agencies will need to design the exit routes, the national guard, local police, and state troopers to control the flow of traffic. The agencies will handle the logistics of the evacuation. In addition, people who are in hospitals and nursing homes will have way out of the city, and the local government will have to use their resources to ensure that people arrive at a safe place away from the disaster. Of course, you want to provide transportation for those individuals who do not have cars. Damn, are you that selfish that you do not care about anyone else but yourself. You have a level of disconnection that seems to resonate with me that you are incapable of empathize with other people.
I do not expect the government to pay my bills, but I expect public safety including the fire department and police department, ensure that the water I drink is safe. So, I have write the letter to my local government agency about possible problems with the water, I expect them to investigate. It's the reason why I pay taxes. You want the benefits of the government, but not pay for anything. I find individuals like you always looking for something for nothing. You do not want to your money or time to help, but constantly complaining about everything and this feeling that do you do not vote either.
Perhaps, you did not listen to Obama's speech the other night, but there are some things we do for ourselves. I think one of the important jobs we can do is keep ourselves inform. There is nothing like a well-inform nation so we are able to the government to task. We seem to forget that we are government. We vote politicians to represent us, and take them to task. However, not enough of us write letters to our representatives. I have do more that just vote, but really be involved in the process. If do not like the job my Congressperson, Senator, or Mayor is doing, then I have the power to vote him or her out of office.
[quote]Of course, you want to provide transportation for those individuals who do not have cars. Damn, are you that selfish that you do not care about anyone else but yourself.[/quote]
Hennasplace:
You laid out a LOGICAL set of expectations of the government. You also have the benefit of my long winded postings. COULD YOU FIND ME ONE POST that I have made which is contrary to anything that you have detailed above? Or are you taking what I say at the worst possible assumption of me because of your own bias of me?
You call me SELFISH. I say that my drive is to have more people ASSISTING IN THEIR OWN SALVATION. If all of this leads to A MORE EFFECTIVE OUTCOME - please tell me what the problem is?
What do you know!!! A person that indeed has credibility on the subject of evacuations. What is HE saying?
Lt General Russel Honore: Commentary: U.S. needs 'culture of preparedness'
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/09/01/honore.gustav/index.html
[quote] We need to build a culture of preparedness. We need to assure that every kid who goes to school in America knows how to swim. The number of EMS teams and ambulances is not tracking with the growth in population. We need to teach more of our people first aid.
The federal government ought to be there to back the states up, we need to build a culture of preparedness in each. Why are we sending people there to issue them ice and water? We should be empowering people to act locally. The key to hurricane preparation is family preparation. If families are prepared, we lose fewer lives.
Government has to set standards for institutions like nursing homes and hospitals and for homes where people with mental or physical disabilities are kept. They should be evacuated well before the general population. We have to decide how close we should have those types of institutions to the coastline and to areas that will probably be flooded. That part of the population is just too vulnerable.
We need to create a national preparedness plan, with a local civil defense corps. We need dual trained teachers who can be disaster responders. We need to equip each high schools with satellite communications.[/quote]
Pastor James Dobson's church prayed for there to be rain of biblical proportions to wash out Barack's day. Our man was blessed with weather from paradise. Dobson's man McCain received a potent message instead.
Did Faux News report this? No. That same blonde bitch who coined the phrase 'terrorist fist bump' to describe Barack and Michelle's friendly thump ignored Dobson's story but demonized Michael Moore for saying he was glad for rain on the GOP.
I'm glad this racist, ignorant wanna be 'reporter' mentioned it though, because Moore's site has a wonderful letter up on his site now.
St Louis (which in my research has all but ONE of its 19 member city council being DEMOCRATS. Which has NOT ELECTED AN evil REPUBLICAN city wide since 1970 - kinda like Southwest Philly) is YET ANOTHER example of a FAILED CITY that is ran by PROGRESSIVES.
You a have point here as well, you could throw Oakland and Detroit in the same category. There's no doubt the Democratic party has also failed the people of this country.
Umm...most plans have contingencies for com failures.
Haven't seen a 'cloth-coat' Republican for years. Now they all screamers like Scarborough (dead staffer with no investigation) or antidiluvian slime like Cheney (you shoot someone and see how fast you get jail).
Mold
to those wearing those blinders:
# The median weekly earnings for American workers have not grown in real terms over the last eight years.
# At $6.55, the federal minimum wage is worth 40 cents less per hour, in inflation-adjusted dollars, than it was a decade ago.
Neoconstructive Screedblah:
Quick question for you: How come a third-world communist country like Cuba can take care of its people in a hurricane and the United States of America, the richest country in the history of the world, can NOT?
It's those lazy niggers fault, right?
Palin just announced that her daughter is five months pregnant tamper down the rumors. I guess abstinence didn't work.
Breaking Freaking News
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/01/palin.daughter/index.html
& Ernesto . . . You REALLY didn't need to go there. Really dude.
1st one didn't make the post....
as an east texas police officer i only wished that some of you fine citizens had the honor to have the katrina "victims" come to a theater near you!!!!
we still have some of the more upstanding ones here!!!
as far inland as we are it's not likly Gustav will hit here....but it wouldn't hurt.....maybe they could stay with some of you for the NEXT 3 years!!!!!
RE: breaking news...Palin's daughter 5 months pregnant. Guess that makes two grandkids for Palin.
Well, as a Blogger of major clout, exposure, and brilliance, even if you never occupy any office, you're accomplishing the daunting task of influencing thought. This is the first, and MOST DIFFICULT step in affecting the shifting tides of a society's ideals.
I was so pleased to find out that you have connections with NPR, and occasionally write columns for (Philadelphia inquirer???).
Now that I think of it, oftentimes, people OUTSIDE of politics are the real "movers and shakers." MLK, Malcolm X (GREAT image at the top of this site, BTW) were never elected officials,........the talking heads on Fox are not in office.
Keep up the great work of influencing thought. The more we Secular Humanists (I'm a SECULAR Muslim) recruit people (whether they realize they've been recruited, or not, the greater our society will be.
Peace,
GM
[quote]# The median weekly earnings for American workers have not grown in real terms over the last eight years.
# At $6.55, the federal minimum wage is worth 40 cents less per hour, in inflation-adjusted dollars, than it was a decade ago.[/quote]
Anony - Is this the case for people with degrees?
http://www.epi.org/images/snap20050111nom.gif
Why is it a surprise to you that the incomes of LOW WAGED WORKERS have not GROWN.......when the SUPPLY OF PEOPLE VYING FOR THESE UNSKILLED JOBS has increased?
Now let us talk to you about your views on ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and see if you are willing to MANAGE the supply of labor at the unskilled range so that those workers who are already here can see GROWTH IN THEIR WAGES.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back107.gif
(Some of you all's POLICIES are disconnected from economic reality)
[quote]Michael Moore for saying he was glad for rain on the GOP.
I'm glad this racist, ignorant wanna be 'reporter' mentioned it though, because Moore's site has a wonderful letter up on his site now.[/quote]
Kit - I just got back from spending the morning with New Orleans evacuees that drove to Atlanta for shelter. Could you write a message to them so I can print it out and show them that IN YOUR VIEW - the storm that they are facing is but a bit of "rain" - no big deal that Michael Moore used a prayer event by misdirected so-called 'Christians' for a rain event never happened versus the "sprinkling" that caused them to lose their home.
(I will report on this later but - One lady told me that despite being away from her home and her job for at least 1 week while the storm passes....she must return back and pay all of her utility bills because they will be waiting there for her.)
I am sure that you have a connection with this woman via your comments.
~
LAWD, Lawd, lawd.
Good lord, this woman is a female George Bush.
Here is Palin's response to a candidate questionnaire for the Alaska 2006 gubernatorial race:
Are you offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
Sarah Palin:
Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance
First, the Pledge of Allegiance was not written by the Founding Fathers. It was written much later. Secondly, the words "under God" were not originally part of the Pledge. "Under God" was added even later.[Flag Day (June 14, 1954)]
The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy (1855-1931), a Baptist minister, a Christian Socialist, and the cousin of Socialist Utopian novelist Edward Bellamy ( 1850-1898 )
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/
2008/8/31/174153/834/246/581480
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[quote]Quick question for you: How come a third-world communist country like Cuba can take care of its people in a hurricane and the United States of America, the richest country in the history of the world, can NOT?
It's those lazy niggers fault, right?[/quote]
Ernesto - before "I bite" lets set up the TERMS of your question because they are quite arbitrary.
You say "take care of its people in a hurricane". What EXACTLY does this mean so that we can make a VALID comparison. (I realize how important the arbitrary, unstructured arguments are for Filled-Negros because it insures that "the good guys" continue to look good and the bad guys will always fall short of the changing threshold that they can never seem to live up to)
1) Cuba (and Jamaica and Miami), unlike New Orleans have building codes that have them using cement building materials due to the ravenous effects of past storms. I hope that N.O. adopts more hardened building codes. The "green" houses that Brad Pitt and Angelena Jolie were planning sure were not cement.
Here are pictures from Cuba by the way:
http://www.nancarrow-webdesk.com/warehouse/storage2/2007-w44/img.57150_t.jpg
Seems like they have flooding. Its unavoidable.
2) How do you compare the situation where an ENTIRE CITY FLOODS and there were 25,000 people stranded in a city that RETAINS WATER like a BOWL versus let say Havana which is on an island and, once again, who gets hit by at least 3 storms every year so they have adapted?
Your claim "take care of its people" means nothing unless you define the terms of your comparison.
Filled Negro? That's the best you can do?
Neo-Constructive:
I mean Cuba has spent the resources to build and effective means of evacuating their people to safe shelter during hurricanes. That is the government's job. To provide "homeland security" as it were. This country talks about it, but won't actually do it. We're too busy trying to secure an occupied country halfway across the friggen' globe.
The Netherlands has a large area of coastal land below sea level. They don't get hurricanes, but they do get north atlantic storms that are almost as fierce. They have spent the resources to build a massive network of dikes that protect that land. You're telling me the USA doesn't have the ingenuity, technology or ability of Cuba or the Netherlands?
Your tack seems to be the typical blame the victims mentality that wingnuts cling to like a security blanket when their belief in laissez-faire capitalism is questioned.
"as far inland as we are it's not likly Gustav will hit here....but it wouldn't hurt.....maybe they could stay with some of you for the NEXT 3 years!!!!!"
Maybe they can stay in one of McThusala's houses, soon as he figures out how many he owns and where they are. His staff will get back to you.
I agree with Ernesto - especially, when so much of the country's imports (including oil) go through that region.
noncon- you do like to change the subject don't you. It says The median weekly earnings for AMERICAN WORKERS have not grown in real terms over the last eight years.
Can you not read it says workers not low wage earners?
My feelings on illegals, a smoke screen to change the subject about how the Bush administration has destroyed this country( illiegals occupy fewer than 3% of jobs in Amerikka). Katrina is not a good enough example for you? how about the value of the dollar? Walter Reed Memorial Hospital? China buying all of our Treasury bonds in the billions? we wemt froma deficit to surplus to deficit? I am wasting my energy because like all people with blinders you refused to be swayed by the facts or listen.
Constructive: "You have the ignorant audacity to compare a major storm on the Gulf Coast where likely thousands of people will lose their home to some PARTISAN GIFT FROM GOD to disrupt the GOP convention?"
Chill out! (Geez, I guess irony really is dead after 8 years of BushCO.)
FN:
Thanks, again, for this forum. I read your blog almost daily. Some of the posted comments are breathtaking examples of the colossal mis/failed-education inflicted on A-merry-cans. This might seem like a dumb question, but here goes: How can you and I constructively direct our disappointment and rage after the November election? Cynicism(sic?), rejection of hope, and lowered expections are not options (and, please, don't tell me to find jesus). A part of me really believes that "the people" ARE ready and hungry enough (for change) to vote the bi-racial man with a funny sounding name to the "people's" white house. But then, another part of me cannot forget that these same amerikkkans also elected reagan and frat boy - 2 times!!, no less. I dunno...maybe you understand something that eludes me. Help.
Thanks,
Georgia 'Flash'
".. but here goes: How can you and I constructively direct our disappointment and rage after the November election?..."
Become more active in your community. Register people to vote. Work with your local political party (dem or repub)to get people to the polls when voting day comes around. Write letters to the editor, call radio stations. Have meetings with your neighbors, start organizations. (I have done legal work for two such start up organizations here in Philly this past year alone) And stay engaged. Read blogs (hell start your own) and anything else that you can get your hands on.
If you go to church, make sure that the church you belong to is engaged in the community. If you are Greek, or belong to any type of organization, make sure that your chapter is engaged politically as well.
Just a few suggestions, but there is so much more that we can do.
If you have anything that you want to pass on to me, shoot me an e-mail, and I will be glad to try and get it out there. Folks with blogs can help too.
And finally, If we have to take to the streets, (peacefully of course) we do that too.
As far as the miseducated among us. Sorry, I think it's too late to change some folks (I think we know who I am talking about :)), but hopefully, people like that will stay irrelevant for a long time.
@con..feedback: "They are now in grave danger as they are stationed close to 3 major bodies of water with only cement and dirt protecting them as they are in houses that are below sea level...."
Things are not always black and white.
And this!
And this, too!
Despite the 12 hour-drive to get only 250 miles out of New Orleans, the painful memories associated with the same drive three years ago, and the very real possibility of having no home and no job to return to, I still have a last nerve, which the GOP and mainstream media have managed to get all over. I've watched every Republican from the state governor to the president pat themselves on the back all day simply because the storm did not make landfall at quite a high enough intensity to breach the levees and because they have gotten enough of a clue not to have a party while a state is threatened with catastrophe. Mainstream media has allowed them to get away with that and has perpetuated the notion that "progress" is what saved us. No. The weakening of the storm did.
A barge, moored YESTERDAY near the same industrial canal that was breached by a unmoored barge three years ago, came loose today and happened not to have breached the same flood wall again. Is that really progress?
During Katrina, mainstream media got honest for about a week. During Gustav, they've not been honest at all.
I can move away from New Orleans to avoid hurricanes, but I'll also need to stay away from the entire Gulf Coast as well as much of the East Coast for the same reason. I shouldn't move back to New York because of the relative ease with which the subway system could be attacked. I'd also need to say away from any earthquake prone regions on the West Coast, as well as any of Heartland, which sees devastating tornadoes regularly these days. I think at this point the best bet is Holland, where they got their floodwalls right the first time.
Grannystanding: I am so, so sorry to hear about your Katrina-related heartache.
I think the civilian rescue corps is a great concept but that it needs organization and maintenance. It's an excellent project for city government to get going - that is the kind of thing they're there for in my view. And there need to be more projects along those lines. Ray Nagin, I am looking at you.
As for those who insist on calling "idiots" the people who could not or did not evacuate for Katrina:
1. Look, folks, this is Louisiana, there are a lot of storms, I am sitting here waiting right now for Ike to come in. I had planned to evacuate for Ike but then they said it wasn't coming at all, and now it is coming but it is too late to go. These things happen. You can't bat 1000.
2. Would you really call New Orleanians who did not evacuate for Katrina "idiots" if you did not know they were Black and poor and were therefore easy targets for this kind of speech? Frankly I doubt it.
3. Since you obviously never place yourself in any kind of danger, I suppose that if I ever see you on the highway bleeding I should not stop to help. You are INTELLIGENT so nothing will ever happen to you
(or to the conchadetumadre, I am p.o.'d enough to add).
P.S. I just saw Ernesto's comments up thread and I nominate him for governor.
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