I am quite sure that Gertrude Stein wasn't referring to Paris, Texas when she said those words.
There is plenty to see and do in Paris, France. The Ave Des Champs Elyses; The Louvre; a wine bar in the Entrants Rouge Market; the Le Marais District, I could go on and on. Paris, Texas, on the other hand, not so much. Unless you consider pick up truck, Negro dragging , something to do.
I know they have a Main Street, and apparently they have a farmer's market as well. (That's always nice) And, they have their very own civic center, named: (Get this) The Love Civic Center. Yep, I kid you not. THE LOVE CIVIC CENTER!
Maybe it's because they don't have much to do in Paris, Texas why black folks and white folks have been at each other's throats so much. Now, of course, this was before the beerfest and our teachable moment in A-merry-ca, so this post is probably obsolete. Right now as I type this post, some of those very folks who were screaming at each other across the side walk in the hot Texas heat, could be sipping ice tea and eating watermelon slices together while they watch Hee Haw reruns.
Just a couple of weeks ago the Panthers and the KKK were squaring off in the the republic of Texas in open defiance of the O man's post racial A-merry-ca. Thank god Skip Gates and Sgt. Crow[ley] came along. They were just in time to bring us all together.
Still, I can't only rip the people of Paris, Texas. Hell they have lots of things to do around here and in Boston and look how the racial harmony thing has been working out for us. Of course we didn't have any of our Negroes dragged to death like they did in Jasper and Paris, because that has not been designated a sport here yet. Not yet. We are still pretty much into our Eagles and Phillies, and I am sure the folks up in Boston love their Red Sox and Patriots as well. Of course, that could change. Maybe we just need folks up here to buy more pick up trucks.
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There is a very good movie by the name of Paris, Texas, by the way, check it out sometime. This town definitely represents one of the fault lines in America's racial landscape. Yet, it's telling that the only people really talking (or screaming) in Paris are the two most extreme sides of the equation: The Ku Klux Klan and the New Black Panthers.
I just wish people would find something else to do than to spread hate. Maybe something constructive....
For the life of me I can't understand why any Black person would want to live in Texas.
And BTW, am I the only one who finds it stupid that some of us celebrate (Juneteenth) the fact that Black people were held in slavery in Texas for two more years after slavery was abolished?
Let us not forget that there are ugly places in America like Paris, TX where Negroes recently have been dragged to death. That won't be changing anytime soon.
field from what I hear on the NEW'S, they are still at it, and why didn't you show the picture with the Black Panther's! they were standing tough, it was something to see! and they dared the White Folk's to come over to their side of the street!
I was LOL when I saw the Panter's dressed in all BLACK, CNN interviewed them, and the Panther's told the reporter's they were willing to( DIE for the CAUSE)!!!! now, this was YOUNG BLACK MEN and WOMEN!!!!
The reporter asked if they had gun's and they replied with frown's on their face's YES!!!!!
Sign: a Field Negro, as well as a supporter of the (Cause for JUSTICE) for my People!!!!!!
Field have you seen this? Philadelphia waste plant with a whites-only bathroom that operated like it was 1950 Jim Crow for years.
--j
History Dude, do you really know the history of AMERICA! for if you did, you would know that the PANTHER'S were forced to come forth, because of INJUSTICE in AMERICA!
Now this injustice was caused by White Supremecy group's, better known as the KLAN! this group hung and burned BLACK MEN and WOMEN! and history book's has the proof of these inhuman act's!
The Panther's are a group of BLACK MEN and WOMEN that stand for justice! they fight to destroy the act's of INJUSTICE toward's humanity, the KLAN exist to bring about harm and danger! so you will never be able to link these two group's together!
Field I don't know if you read Mr. Herberts latest in the NYTs about race in America/profiling etc. He is angry and said sometimes anger is justified.
He broke it down and of course received many comments.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/01/opinion/01herbert.html?em
It won't be that much long before that race war that the Fox We Make It Up News and Rush have been trying their best to incite starts. When it's all over, said, and done, it won't turn out they way they're thinking it will though. As for racism in America, none of what they're doing surprises me anymore. It's the same old...same old. This is Amerikkka home of BS, deception, and injustice.
We blacks, especially the ones living in the sticks, need to exercise our 2nd Amendment rights more.
Gun aversion is a liberal principle that is not serving us well.
When racists and criminals know their marks are unarmed, it gives them more confidence.
"For the life of me I can't understand why any Black person would want to live in Texas."
Texas is a big state and certainly there are pockets that I wouldn't dare stop to get gas from, (always have a full tank when passing through small towns here,) but to equate the entire state as a racist backwoods is not correct.
The major cities are diverse and not anymore racist than the rest of America.
I remember when the story first broke, it was a while back, it never really made too many major headlines though. The mother was the most prominent figure then too, she cried on the radio and just wanted answers.
There ya'll go again.Ya'll taking a unfortunate accident and trying to start some shit and cause a race war.
Ya'll should be careful for what ya'll wish for cause ya'll just might get it.
That uncle tom in the Whitehouse should invite these hate groups together for a beer in the Whitehouse.
J I am well aware of that story you refer to. I can't get into it now because of professional issues. Please understand. Trust me, it's not because I am running away from it.
Saleema,Tx.has some wonderful places with some wonderful peopl( love Austin and Houston) so don't take my rants against the entire state personal.
Rudy, you might be right.
Granny,I hope you are feeling better.
Jeeze Field, sorta weak topic for a post, but hey its a slow News Weekend... If you remember your history, JFK flew into "LOVE FIELD" on 11-22-63, sort of ironic when you remember what happened... In the A-T-L y'all kill each other about 145 times for every one time a white guy shoots one y'all, unless you count the abortion clinics... You workin on Wayne Williams Parole??? He should be gettin out soon, watch out for the spike in Amber Alerts..
Frank
MR.R
An "unfortunate accident" is a person being hit by a car.
A crime is a human being being dragged by a vehicle and having body parts strewn all over the road.
To you it maybe unfortunate insomuch as you don't have to walk into a coroner's office to identify the remains (with everything that word implies) of your loved one. You don't have to sit in a courtroom as the men most likely responsible for the violent death of your loved one are exonerated. You don't have to be within earshot of racists spewing hatred concerning your murdered loved one.
Save your mock concern for Brandon McClelland for someone that buys your brand of BS, perhaps your wife.
For the life of me I can't understand why any Black person would want to live in Texas<<<
My BF recently moved to Houston after being offered a teaching position there. Since there may be a chance I may join him, I asked a friend of mine about living in a "red" state like Texas.
She said that places like Houston are little blue islands in a sea of red and avoid rural areas, home to many of the state's wingnuts and racists.
I live in Wisconsin and really don't have a hankering to visit rural areas here (Posse Comitatus, anyone?), much less anywhere else.
I've been to Houston on many occasions, and I can tell you that she was right.
The neighborhood that BF resides in is more diverse--blacks, Asians, Hispanics, whites, young, middle-aged, elderly, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh--than any neighborhood that I've seen here in Milwaukee.
So, I can see how some black people would want to live in Texas.
And many do.
Sharon from WI said...
"She said that places like Houston are little blue islands in a sea of red and avoid rural areas, home to many of the state's wingnuts and racists."
On those little blue islands is where you find the hughest crime rates in the whole state.And those rural areas tend to have lower crime rates.That could be because Democrats like yourself tend to avoid those places.
I have seen miles and miles of Texas just like the song say.I live Houston for the past twenty years and believe me Texas is less racist than Philadelphia or say New York .Take it from me a black man who spend six years in the east coast.
Anon 10:20
That was a beautiful oversimplification of multiple complex issues! I congratulate you on the efficiency you possess when it comes to your mental faculties!
"There ya'll go again.Ya'll taking a unfortunate accident and trying to start some shit and cause a race war.
Ya'll should be careful for what ya'll wish for cause ya'll just might get it."
You saying you want a race war? Yeah, I can imagine the house negros and uncle toms standing side by side with their white masters while repelling the vicious black hordes and their Sean Jean jeans, Pele Peles and fitted caps.
Negro, please.
You'll be lucky if you weren't among the first ones taken out in the new Civil War.
Mack! Welcome! You must be new here. MR.R and Frank Drackman are the resident trolls here.
Mostly here to provide their hateful opinions of all things non-white.
I can see a race war coming about, maybe it's just my hatred for white people. It runs very very deep. I don't feel any sympathy for anything that happens to any of them no matter what age. Do I get all sympathetic when Heather becomes missing after hoping into a strangers car? HELL NO. Keep her. Do I get all weepy when Becky is found in a river? OFCOURSE NOT. HOpe the fish have a great meal. I don't think you could measure my hate for white people it would be greater than space. What black people need to know is white's will always be hateful for no good reason to people that are different from them. My dream is brown and black people will come up with a plan to teach them a lesson, give them a taste of their own medicine. It would make me so happy. Black people need to realize that white people are incapable of emotion. Their love doesn't even go that deep for their own families. The movies make them look like the greatest people around. That is Hollywood for you, white ass cracka making movies. Be ready black people. Arm youself, as a black woman. I am armed and have no fear. I am taking no prisoners. You better believe these crackers are preparing to do whatever by any means necessary. I've already been warned by some twisted white boy who likes and hates me all at the same time. See how crazy they are. The cracka men want black women but they want you to pick cotton for them at the same time. Twisted sick fuckas.
I am surprised you chose a quote from Gertrude Stein rather than Josephine Baker's "J'ai deux amours"
"j'ai deux amours, mon pays et Paris"
This would work better in this post for a couple of reasons, one of which being she survived living in Nazi occupied Paris!
Anon 10:41am. said:
"I don't think you could measure my hate for white people it would be greater than space. What black people need to know is white's will always be hateful for no good reason to people that are different from them."
You are the same as the white folks you so deeply profess to hate. Your energy only adds fuel to the energy that is hatred.
And the really sad thing about that is your burning hatred devours Your spirit, Your soul. Not them.
You are Hatred. And, that is what they want of you.
Baker over Stein? Yes, I suppose if I could have found a more appropriate quote from her I would have gone here.
Anon @ 10:41: Reading what you wrote makes me sad, and wonder what happened to make you like that...
On those little blue islands is where you find the hughest crime rates in the whole state.And those rural areas tend to have lower crime rates.That could be because Democrats like yourself tend to avoid those places. <<<
One, who said I am a Democrat?
Two, I take umbrage with your suggestion that I engage in criminal activity.
Three, anyone with any sense of demographics understands that a big city--and Houston is the fourth largest city in the nation--is likely to have a higher crime rate than some backwater burg that has a population of 400.
This would work better in this post for a couple of reasons, one of which being she survived living in Nazi occupied Paris! <<
Did you know that Baker was honorably awarded for her work in the French Resistance? :-)
Josephine served France during World War II in several ways. She performed for the troops, and was an honorable correspondent for the French Resistance (undercover work included smuggling secret messages written on her music sheets) and a sub-lieutenant in the Women's Auxiliary Air Force. She was later awarded the Medal of the Resistance with Rosette and named a Chevalier of the Legion of Honor by the French government for hard work and dedication.
http://www.cmgww.com/stars/baker/about/biography.html
@Anonymous 10:41 a.m.
I really find it hard to believe you are black, given your vitriol here.
History Dude, do you really know the history of AMERICA! for if you did, you would know that the PANTHER'S were forced to come forth, because of INJUSTICE in AMERICA!
The New Black Panthers are a completely different organization than the Panthers of old. Did you know that the surviving members of the original Panthers sued the NBP to get them to stop using the Panther name?
http://www.blackpanther.org/newsalert.htm
While original Panthers operated soup kitchens and were involved in community improvement, the NBP does none of that. Their primary goals is media attention. Their secondary goal seems to be any incitement to racial violence. For example, King Shamir Shabazz, head of the Phili NBP, states that blacks "need to be to ready to kill some crackas. You are gonna have to kill a cracka's baby."
So, you see the difference is quite a large one. Anon at 10:41 is a pretty good example of NBP thought.
Also, strangely enough, the NBP has invited Tom Metzger, head of the "White Aryan Resistance" to address one of their meetings, despite the fact that he is white nationalist. I suppose the anti-semitism of the two groups is something they have in common.
I wrote an article about the evolution of the NBP from the original Panther's Party as an undergrad. If I ever get it scanned, I'll put a link up to it.
Also, strangely enough, the NBP has invited Tom Metzger, head of the "White Aryan Resistance" to address one of their meetings, despite the fact that he is white nationalist. I suppose the anti-semitism of the two groups is something they have in common.<<<
I interviewed one of the head officers of the New Black Panther Party years ago and they are quite the antisemites. And you are also right about the original Black Panthers. They want nothing to do with what these pinheads stand for and are quite dismayed over the use of the name from the '60s.
I take serious issue with Anon 10:41.
I wonder like Sharon does if you truly are black and also whether you are a woman. I smell a troll.
It's not that I think blacks or any minority for that matter incapable of discriminatory and racist behavior but you just overemphasize your point a bit too much.
Field hands ae good at sniffing out stuff. :)
[meant t-h-e-r-e and not h-e-r-e- @ 12:31PM]
I live in Wisconsin and really don't have a hankering to visit rural areas here (Posse Comitatus, anyone?), much less anywhere else.
I grew up in Wisconsin, and I am sad to read that comment. I know there are some areas of the state where your hesitancy would be somewhat justified (Fox Valley, parts of the North Woods), but I think most of the state is friendly territory for everyone.
I travel a lot, all over the place, and I wish I'd see more black tourists in general.
@field -- Understood. I figured there might be something like that going on.
@Jody -- Well said. Hate deforms the soul. It doesn't matter who holds it or who it's against.
--j
History Dude:
I thought Metzger was in prison?
OT.Another Beck fan was going to smoke some American troops this time instead of Policemen. Why is FOX still on the air?
From Daily Kos:
Glenn Beck Fan, Highly Armed, Busted For Casing National Guard Base, Thinking It Was A "FEMA Camp"
by booksnmore4you
"Chock it up as another instance in the growing list of crazies spurred to craziness by Right-Wing media crazies."
As reported by Saturday's NY Post, "a Long Island mother of three -- armed to the teeth with an assault rifle and shotgun -- was arrested for scouting out and taking pictures of an Air National Guard base."
Her arsenal included an XM-15 assault rifle, a shotgun and 500 rounds of ammunition.
The woman, Nancy Genovese, had been seen at the base a few weeks earlier, taking photos and questioning the guards. This time she had returned to take photos of the perimeter of the base. It's not difficult to make the connection that she was paranoid about "FEMA Camps".
Well, Kid, that won't be the last of it until the people rise up together in unity and demand that the Fox News folks and Rush be taken off the airwaves and Homeland Security cracks down on them for inciting riots and hate speech. Others in MSM are going to have start disputing the lies and poison that Fox and Rush have been infiltrating America with. A few in MSM have started disputing them, but it's going to take more of them to come out and speak up. However, MSM is so entwined in Corporations, until they don't want to do it because they'd like to keep it blue states vs red states so they can profit. When it all boils down a lot of them will wish they had spoken up, but it takes a few serious tragedies for them to get on their job and do real journalism. Sad! Smh!
History Dude:
I thought Metzger was in prison?
His address to the Panthers was a few years back. There was a raid recently on Metzger's compound, but I believe he has yet to be charged.
Dmd "Anon @ 10:41: Reading what you wrote makes me sad, and wonder what happened to make you like that..."
Judging from the condescending way you approached other Blacks the other day on this blog, why would you be sad? Seems to me you are no different except that you are White.
GrannyStandingforTruth said...
Well, Kid, that won't be the last of it until the people rise up together in unity and demand that the Fox News folks and Rush be taken off the airwaves and Homeland Security cracks down on them for inciting riots and hate speech.
kid said..
Why is FOX still on the air?
Thousands of black people killed because of gang violence each year.
Thousands of blacks die because of drug addiction every year.
Over 10 million black folk were never born because of Roe v wade .
Yet the only thing ya'll is worried about is FOX NEWS???
Nobody said ya'll was the sharpest tools in the shed.Combine that with Fox News Derangement Syndrome and ya'll is one big fuckin joke.
Mr.R. said.....
"Nobody said ya'll was the sharpest tools in the shed.Combine that with Fox News Derangement Syndrome and ya'll is one big fuckin joke."
Then seriously, why are you here? If indeed we are all one big joke... we are stupid.... we are deranged....
What does that make you? Mean? Cruel?
Where I come from, only the bullies picked on the "stupid people."
Is that what you are Mr.R.? Just a mean, cruel bully?
Mr R:
Oh, Mr R, I'm amazed that you have so much love for us black people. Now that really is amazing, do you have that same love for those soldiers and people that died in Iraq behind a GOP lie for profit? Did you go out and march with Cindy Sheenan behind the lost of her son? Because that would really have us look at you in a different light.
Mr. R is like a 4 year old whose learned to say hell.
He must be so tickled with himself.
Naw, ya'll is knows i was being incited to riot by FOX NEWS.I just bes listenin' to Rush every days.
Ya'll know he be sayin' the race war is gon bes startin' soon.
I is sho nuff ready.
@ Sharon from WI
I live in Dallas, Texas and I am a native Texan. I have lived in other cities, New York and LA and Houston.
I can truly say I HATE Houston, Texas! Their community planning and zoning laws look like they were drawn up and executed by Bozo the Clown.
I swear you can be in a perfectly nice neighborhood and then turn the corner and find yourself in the middle of the fucking woods or on Tabacco Road.
It's so spread out you better pack provisions and an extra change of clothing for the journey to another part of town. And let's not talk about the traffic.
They do have very good medical facilities, their public schools in some areas are quite good and the students seem to be less "self-segregated". But that's about the only nice things I have to say about Houston.
Dallas is very conservative, very OLD money driven, even in 2009. It is very segregated within city proper as far as housing is concerned. It is more integrated once you go into the burbs. But I refused to live outside of the loop. We are still the only one of three Black couples in a eight block radius living in my neighborhood after 15 years.
Local and only newspaper endorsed McCain/Palin ticket. I cancelled my subscription. I still see McCain/Palin bumper stickers on the Soccer Mom's cars. Sarah Palin the poster child for white privilege. So funny, my elderly white neighbors despised Palin, called her a trollop. Give it a few years, especially given the Latino population, Texas will turn Blue.
Anon @ 6:44: First, if you can cite anything I wrote that is even vaguely similar to what he wrote please do...
Second, even if I were condescending, that is a far cry from frankly expressed hatred for a race of people. Believe it or not, a white person being condescending to a black person is not necessarily racist. Maybe I just think I'm smarter than whoever it was I was arguing with. I'm not claiming to be so, but there are many other explanations why one might be condescending without immediately jumping to racism. But really your response is similar to the other knee-jerk, unsubstantiated comments I was critical of the other day.
Just as you can be critical of whites (or any one white) without being racist, so can I be critical (even condescending!) of a black without being racist. The comments made by anon that make me sad are cleary, inescapably racist. And that's what makes me sad. While I understand the high index of suspicion of white people many folks on this blog have, I think it's often undermines the crediblity of what is said because it is often obvious that the conclusion about an individual is drawn based on skin color and only AFTER that is what is said evaluated.
I would have critisized the comments made the other day about Obama being one of the best President's (and I assume that is probably the "condescention" you're referring to) if my own mother had made them. I've gotten into many arguements with my white friends who are star-struck by Obama and said the exact same things to them. Having a difference of opinion isn't racist.
And honestly, I don't think I was condescending. If anything the person I was talking to got a little testy because I held them to the words they chose to use to describe Obama. You have all the time in the world to type these comments; you may as well say what you mean.
"Rudy said...
We blacks, especially the ones living in the sticks, need to exercise our 2nd Amendment rights more.
Gun aversion is a liberal principle that is not serving us well.
When racists and criminals know their marks are unarmed, it gives them more confidence.
Yup, blacks have a well known aversion to guns which is why in my city young black men make up 1/2 of 1% of the pop but 80% of gun related criminals. Yup.
You may want to tally how many black men are murdered by racists vs. how many are murdered by thugs of their own kind. Just sayin
Mr.R. now you say....
"Naw, ya'll is knows i was being incited to riot by FOX NEWS.I just bes listenin' to Rush every days.
Ya'll know he be sayin' the race war is gon bes startin' soon.
I is sho nuff ready"
Let me get this straight. First you accuse folks here of stupidity. And then, when called out on your childish, ugly behavior, you respond by mocking, childish sarcasm?
Again, I ask you. Why are you here? Is this all you have to offer? Either bullying hateful comments? or childish, sneering sarcasm?
I do hope you realize that your comments say nothing about anyone on this blog but speak volumes as to what kind of person you are.
You do not piss me off. I do however shake my head at your immaturity and thoughtlessness.
@jody -- Mr.R. obviously just doesn't like Southerners. He thaank weeze stupid but hit doan madder wut he thaank cuz he ain't tell tha differnce 'tween Hollywood Southern and Hollywood Shonuff: Shogun of Harlem. Bless his heart! ;)
What he needs is to go outside and pick his switch.
--j
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Anonymous MR.R said...
GrannyStandingforTruth said...
Well, Kid, that won't be the last of it until the people rise up together in unity and demand that the Fox News folks and Rush be taken off the airwaves and Homeland Security cracks down on them for inciting riots and hate speech.
kid said..
Why is FOX still on the air?
Thousands of black people killed because of gang violence each year.
Thousands of blacks die because of drug addiction every year.
Over 10 million black folk were never born because of Roe v wade .
Yet the only thing ya'll is worried about is FOX NEWS???
Nobody said ya'll was the sharpest tools in the shed.Combine that with Fox News Derangement Syndrome and ya'll is one big fuckin joke.
________________________________
Granny:
I'm not responding to this troll. I told folks here I wouldn't respond to them anymore.First the comment that Sister Souljah said that no one will stop black on black crime until it happens to whites.Well when right wing whites are killing other whites it don't matter to them.More policemen will die and Beck and Limbaugh will hide behind the Constitution. People spend $650 million dollars to get the President in, and the right will spend as much to get him thrown out.
We all know where the neo-cons get their money from ,the gun lobby, drug companies, weapons manufacturers,Haliburton, the usual suspects.
This blogger Mr. R ask YOU why black s are dying and he mentions , abortions, drugs,violence.The violence didn't come from Africa.Take away peoples means of production and have the government sabotage their political and business infrastructure and you get us.They tried Iran/Contra, COINTELPRO, and FOX and we're still here.
Ain't it funny how they worry about abortions in the black neighborhoods. but on the other hand, they complaining about two many fatherless babies. I tell ya, that is some unstable thinking. Smh!
Kid:
I wonder why Mr R is not down there in Paris, Texas with his brave "I is sho nuff ready" self. Dang, Mr R talking all that smack, look like he would have flew down their on his coat tail to get in on the action. He must be one of those suit and tie agitators, but when stuff really jumps off, he hides in the office behind a desk, everything pushed up against the door blocking it, praying that they don't come his way. LOL!
Granny, What does Smh!stand for?
First of all I am the anon from 10:41. I am a damn woman. I am a black woman. Sharon from WI, believe me I can hate, hate stronger than any white muthafucka out there. If I had a way to annihilate these crackas out here I would. White people fuel my hatred on a regular basis and it only makes me feel like tearing them apart until not one cell of their bodies exist. I hate white people. They are the only group of people who make me want to outright commit cold blooded murder. Too bad some people are sad about my comments. They have done plenty to make me hate them. If you guys want to understand and work together with whites, feel free. As far as I am concerned, fuck them. Do you think they really give a shit about you? As soon as shit hits the fan they will run to their safe suburban safe havens and pretend they don't know you. Black people are so fucking forgiving to everyone else but each other. You all sit here going back and forth with the Nazi Mr. R. who clearly hates you trying to get him to understand you. He does not give a fuck about you. There is only one way to take care of EVIL like that. You are truly EVIL when you hate people just because your forefathers hated them , especially if these people you hate have done nothing to you. You cannot fix the Mr.R's of the world. You have to eliminate them. That is a goal that I would love to fulfill. I have been thinking of a way for awhile now to take care of the problem should a race war start. Black women again I say arm yourselves. Arm yourselves. Please Arm yourselves. I am going out with as many white scalpes as possible. Believe me my hate for whites does not take away from anything about me, but it makes me aware and I pay attention. You cannot trust white people, You CANNOT trust them. THere is only way for them to go. One way only.
To the popular Mr. R. where do you live? I want to let you know I am one of the black people here who do not get upset or offended by you. I just want you to beware. I have learned to take my knee jerk reactions to ignorant Hitlers like yourself and plan. Plan well. Thanks for being honest and helping me to stay aware and prepared.
Sharon, Smh means "Shaking my head"
Smh means "Shaking my head" <<
Thanks. :-)
Dmd,
You are sad for Anon10:51p but say nothing about Mr R or Frank's hatred toward Blacks. Why is that? Could it be due to your denial as an authentic racist?
Sorry Anon dared to disagree or correct you about your mistake, or got 'testy' as you call it. How dare someone Black do that! After all, white is right, right? By color alone you have the right to be condescending. BTW, condescending is a way of indicating to others that you think you are better than they are. Blacks don't like being put down. You are of the order of Mr R and Frank. You just try to spray your shit with lysol. Apparently you have no idea what it means to be human. Yep, you ARE a racist.
FYI, you are not very impressive when it comes to intelligence, and even less so when it comes to being a respectful human being.
However, you are very impressive as a racist in DENIAL.
Sharon From WI,
Don't confuse 'smh' with 'shm', which means 'schmuck'. As a substitute, however, it works just as well. LOL
LOL. Thanks for the heads up. :-)
Anonymous 11:10:
Hmmm...I need to use shm too when referring to Mr R. LOL! Thanks!
Anon 10:51: To begin, it wasn't my mistake that was being corrected. No one made a mistake. A poster claimed Obama was going to be one of the best Presidents ever. I said it was too early to say. As an aside, I have no idea if anon I was talking with was black or not.
I haven't read Mr. R or Frank say anything like this anon has said. But if it makes your feel better, to the extent they're racist, it makes me sad too. So you can really rest easy, all racism makes me sad, even my own. (Gasp! I admitted to racism! Yeah, we all have it to some degree or the other.)
Thank you for telling me what condescention indicates. I was pretty sure I was using the word correctly, and now I know I was. As I said above, I wasn't condescending. But I was right. And if I were condescending it was because I was right. (I know it irks you to no end when a white person is right... but it happens.)
Blacks don't like to be put down? How is that relevant? I didn't put anyone down. Usefull info nonetheless so thanks for that anyway.
As for how impressive I am to you as an intellect or human being means little to me. I'm not dependent on you academically or professionally, and we're chatting on the internet so my humanity isn't something you're in position to judge.
While I'm discussing what makes me sad: I'm a little sad I am sitting here defending myself to someone regarding whether or not someone else's blatant racism makes me sad. But I've always gotten a bittersweet laugh out of how easy it is to come to FN's blog and comment and get thoughtless, baseless, and frankly idiotic chrages of racism lobbed my way. Easier than taking a candy from a baby. Usually begins about two seconds after I
1) Id myself as white, and
2) Disagree with what someone says
Lol.
I am puzzled by the recurring theme here of outrage and betrayal that Obama's presidency has not cured this country's racial problems. Did anyone seriously believe that it would? It was a major leap forward, but it wasn't the end all and be all. Not by a long shot.
BTW, Dmd:
Evidently, you haven't been posting long enough to see some of the stuff that Frank and Mr R say because some of it has been so out of line until most of the people who have getting on their case and calling them on it are white. However, you wouldn't know that because you just assume that everyone posting on here is black.
Dmd, FYI,'condescention' is spelled 'condescen-S-ion. You really have a problem with admitting you have a problem 'condescension' don't you? Well, that's just more proof that you are still the same Dmd(racist) that entered this blog the other day with your obvious 'condescending' remarks to Granny followed by other snotty remarks to others.
Interestingly, Kathy did not curse you out for insulting Granny. Instead, Kathy nicely recommended a book for you to read. However, she cursed me out for NOT offending Granny. Like you, she knows how to put N****** in their places. Some of you Whites truly believe in double standards don't you? Hell, you even tell each other which photos not to use on FN blog.
Whether professionally or academically--Dmd you are still a condescending racist dickhead of the worst kind. In short, you are an evil white beast who has crawled out of a NYC sewer, and you stink.
The evidence points to you as the one who stole Granny's ID, because you never denied that you weren't. Instead, you laughed at Granny, and joked about it to her face. Of course, you weren't being condescending. Otherwise, Kathy would have cursed you out. Oh, I forgot.... Kathy only curses Blacks who she thinks 'might' be offensive. But your foul-smelling white privilege always gets a pass even among those who claim they want to end racism.
Yep. White-privilege is well-connected and encouraged among all of you folks.
White people are only connected to other white people. Not emotionally, they don't have emotions, but by their need to hold on to white priviledge. I have figured the only way a group of people can go through history and not have any problems doing what they have done to other groups for centuries is not smarts, but hollowed souls. You have to lack any emotion whatsoever to do this. I remember seeing a picture when I was teenager of a black man hanging from a tree while white people stood around watching with glee. It was a sport for them. I heard that back in those days white people would have snacks and sit around watching a blacks being hung. Does that sound like anything a human being would do if they had any kind of compassion about other people? All these years white people have been wrongly accusing blacks of any and everything, having them jailed or murdered all based on skin color. It did not matter if the person was guilty or not. THeir hatred of blacks was enough for a conviction. Pure evil can only be held by white people. I don't know of any other race that kills based on the color of a person. This reminds me of the OJ SImpson trial. OJ I felt may have been guilty. BUt look at how divided the races were. Do you think he would have gotten this much attention if he had been a white man killing his white wife? NO. Or if OJ had killed his black wife would the world have been outraged? Hell NO. Americans would not have given a damn that Negro would still have endorsements and movie roles. We will never get past race. White people will not let that happen. They don't give a shit about anyone else. That is why I will always hate them. Did any of you know that OJ's wife was sleeping with his best friend and everyone under the Sun plus doing drugs. Yet had it been a black woman with all those same issues, white people would have thought typical. THis is what I mean about those pasty fuckers they think they are above anything and everyone. Trashy nasty inbred bastards. White women can be sluts and whores and still get tv specials and popularity. Never seen this with Latina or black women.Just those slutty whores.
"Ain't it funny how they worry about abortions in the black neighborhoods. but on the other hand, they complaining about two many fatherless babies. I tell ya, that is some unstable thinking. Smh!"
No, they're not worried about black abortions. Not in the least. They're just trying to end white abortions by appealing to more moderate whites through blacks. It won't work, but there is a method to that instable thinking.
Granny: I haven't seen them write anything like this particular anon has written. Things like accusing an entire race of being "hollowed souls." Besides, I didn't really call her out on what she wrote. I just commented that it made me sad. If you remember I then followed up by saying all racism makes me sad. Things that make me laugh however are comments like yours such as: "you wouldn't know that because you just assume that everyone posting on here is black." Everything else you wrote in your comment above is reasonable, and even helpfull in shedding light on things, but that last sentence if a flat-out, unsubstantiated lie. I have no idea the race of 90% of the posters on here, and you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever that I have ever assumed the race of anyone posting here.
Anon @ 2:40: Speaking of baseless assertions, predicated on laughable "evidence"... Are you trying to damage your credibility as a poster or was your claim that "The evidence points to you as the one who stole Granny's ID, because you never denied that you weren't" a joke? I mean, am I supposed to respect that as a well made case, and consider the one posting it to be a logical and clear thinker? Sorry if this seems condescending, but I DO think my thinking is better than that. If you can show me where I've accused anyone else of anything based on the mere fact they have yet to deny it, please remind me of it.
As for what Kathy does or does not do... it's irrelevent to what you're saying about me. But, yeah I joked with Granny regarding her ill-defined threats to the identity thief. It's funny when people threaten other people on internet message boards. Always has been, always will be. If you don't want actions ridiculed, work to stop ridiculous actions.
I challenge you to find one instance where I've been racist. Should be fairly easy considering how easily and loosely you toss the word around. Let me make a prediction though. You will either ignore this challenge, or make up some sort of excuse ("I don't have to do anything you ask whitey...") because you know full well there are no examples of racism in what I've said. Odds are you'll ignore it, since I've already called you out on what you're likely to say.
Call me an asshole if you want. You may actually have evidence of that. The word "racist" is losing it's power, and it's because of people like you that throw it around like a clumsy shield, hiding behind it so you don't have to actually demonstrate where someone else is wrong.
Anon5:20AM,
"I have figured the only way a group of people can go through history and not have any problems doing what they have done to other groups for centuries is not smarts, but hollowed souls. You have to lack any emotion whatsoever to do this."
You are exactly right. However, they do exhibit a feeling that's been common throughout their history in America...it's called "hate". Hate has been the foundation of white supremacy AND white privilege. It is hate that allows people like Bmd to sleep at night for their inhumanity. Bmd is of the white godless ones. Evil through and through.
What feeling dominated a group of people who came to America exclaiming, "Give me libery or give me death!"-while simultaneously exterminating the natives of the land, and enslaving another? It is "hatred".
Gmd is the classic descendent of god-less Whites who enslaved Blacks and later lynched Blacks for entertainment at their all white picnics and still slept well at night. They never cared that the person they lynched was someone's son, father, husband, uncle, or love one. They felt NOTHING then, and they still don't today. Gmd is a fine example of what it means to be White in America today and what it means to carry on their legacy.
Dmd said, "Anon 10:51: To begin, it wasn't my mistake that was being corrected. No one made a mistake..."
Dmd, your own quote: "Anon @ 1:24: Sorry, didn't mean to mis-quote you... I mixed what you said up with Granny's response..."
Sounds like you made a mistake to me. Of course, since you can't admit to being an obvious condescending jackass, you certainly are capable of denying a mistake even though you said it.
You are looking dumber and dumber...sliding down that slippery slope into imbecility. Must be painful for you.
Well, it is interesting to compare black and white racism, like the black woman who hates whites so badly she wants to kill us and has called me a cracka before and Drackman who likes to bait. The vitriol is the same, no?
smh @shm's
"Well, it is interesting to compare black and white racism, like the black woman who hates whites so badly she wants to kill us and has called me a cracka before and Drackman who likes to bait. The vitriol is the same, no?"
Whitney, I don't think they are quite the same. Whites have the establishment and law enforcement to actually carry out their hatred and discrimination against Blacks. They have done it for centuries and Blacks have been powerless to stop their evil actions. Even worse, Blacks are not protected by the police they pay taxes for. The Gates-Crowley incident is a classic but all too common way Blacks are treated by Whites.
So no, I don't think that they are the same, and never will be until Blacks can be treated equally in America.
Umm Whitney so you know who I am, I am the black woman who hates whites. I want to make that clear. It is not a black man or white man posing as a black poster.
No ones racism compares to whites. Your hatred and racism is just there without any merit whatsoever. You use it to justify yourselves and your dysfunctional actions. I swear a white person does something everyday to make me feel like I am doing the right thing by not reaching out to bridge the racial gap. Screw the gap. Whitney you may think that racism by no group is helpful, but your people started it. No sense in trying to spread the blame around equally. Ours is only a reaction to white racism. What do whites expect blacks to do?You don't have any real solution because you really don't care you are white and my hatred for you does not affect you because you are white. You get justice. We rarely get it. When we fight for the same justice you have everyday, we are called whiners. I guess we should just be happy that we don't have to wear shackles and call you massa any longer. When blacks try to get past history there is always some white person there to try and drag us back. Why else would we still need to talk about this. After all this time shouldn't we be able to treat each other as equals. Whites don't think so because you feel you built this country alone and that we are your barnyard guest and should be grateful for the lil ho cakes you give us. You all are so oblivious to your own behavior because you are not used to showing consideration to anyone else but each other, unless you are a Republican then the women are still treated like they are expendable until the men want sex. White people want blacks to just get over racism and the past. Stop bringing it up. Unfortunately the whites who do make a real effort to get along with blacks wouldn't be safe either if I had my way. Eliminated. THE FINAL SOLUTION.
you'd be surprised what happens in those rural towns. Most of the times the bruthas still act like they on the plantation. Thanks to Jenna, that ish is dead.
Anon Woman,
Well, lump us all up. I'm not some high and mighty smarmy white person. I realize my circumstances in life are quite different. What white people did to and with slavery was too terrible for words to actually describe. But, if you want to do like Hitler did, well, that's really helpful isn't it?
I think that most "liberal" (which I am not) white folks think there are very few black racists. Delusional.
Fact of the matter is everywhere you look are racists. Jews hate Arabs, Shiites hate Sunnis, whites hate blacks, Jews and brown folks, Indians hate whites, and vice versa.
And I do agree with your statement "After all this time shouldn't we be able to treat each other as equals."
I've not walked in your shoes, nor do I pretend to know what you feel. I am ultimately sorry that you feel the way you do and I realize there is nothing I can do about it. And, I am not doubt wasting my time writing this because you could care less.
"Thanks to Jenna, that ish is dead."
I doubt that.
@Whitney: "Racism is the disease of the white man." Albert Einstein
I am Anon4:36p. I have tried to converse with you in the past, on FN blog as well as on Granny's blog but to no avail. Well, that's not all true. Once you did reply to me, but shortly thereafter, you removed your comment. I wondered why you did that-because it was a friendly respectful comment.
I have tried to "get along" with Whites most of my life but my experience has told me that generally, it is the nature of Whites to reciprocate ONLY if it is on their terms. Otherwise, they will see and treat non-whites as irrelevant-- without ever being aware of it.
I find that condescending unabashed arrogance offensive, but not surprising. Because most Whites have proven again and again, that it is their 'nature' to behave that way.
I don't know what your definition of racism is, or how deeply you have reflected about its meaning as a person of white privilege, but I'd like to share a definition of racism that might useful, or at least will give you something to think about:
"Racism is when you have laws set up, systematically put in a way to keep people from advancing, to stop the advancement of a people. Black people have never had the power to enforce racism, and so this is something that white America is going to have to work out themselves. If they decide they want to stop it, curtail it, or to do the right thing ... then it will be done, but not until then." ~ Spike Lee
Whitney, what is your definition of racism? Do you have one, or is it some vague term that you toss back to non-whites? Have you confused racism for the angry reactions from Blacks and maybe other non-whites?
FWIW, here is a quote from a white person who has, and is doing deep inner work on herself. IMO, if we all were as far along as she is, racism would probably be on its last leg:
"It all does stem from a lack of empathy and not listening to the voices of POCs. Most white people are convinced that people of color “play the race card” or “cry racism.” It seems the only acceptable compliant is when someone uses the n-word. Even then that depends on the circumstances. The hardest thing is getting white folks to understand YOU DON’T GET TO DECIDE WHAT IS RACIST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT EXPERIENCE IT."
@WHITNEY
You are right. I don't care anymore. Most of your people don't either. So the next step is you all going away. Seems that we are regressing anyway. Who the fuck wants to start over with another civil rights movement? Waterhoses get turned on me bullets and blades turned on you. My only solution.
Anonymous 10:19AM
I only recollect deleting one comment and it was because I was falling into being as hateful as the poster was at me. I can't remember doing it any other time, but if you say I did and I was wrong, then I am sincerely sorry.
As for my definition of racism, yes, I would agree that it is a condescending attitude of one race of people feeling superior or of more intellect than another race of people. Furthermore, racism is the oppressing of rights and liberties by one race of people against another race of people.
As what Israel is doing to Palestine now. As what whites did to black people for 400 years. And, yes, are still doing overtly and covertly.
You are more than right, and I have said this before, that I can't speak to these things because I have not even walked a foot in your shoes.
However, I think you can look at my comments and see that I have never cried "race card" about what is blogged or posted here or at Granny's blog.
I did make a comment about how the Gates-gate turned 180 in two days on the Field and another poster said "Yes, today Rosa Parks is riding in the front while Skip Gates was thrown under the bus..." or something to that effect. I personally thought that was funny.
I don't think I am superior or better than anyone but I also don't suffer fools gladly. I have friends and acquaintances from all walks and talks and stripes of life, from the homeless to the famous. I'm not particularly fond of spending time with elitists; they bore me but I know a few.
I hope you get to read this. I was in meetings most of the day.
I hope this answers your question and if you want more definition or to ask me something else, feel free.
Respectfully,
Whitney B
As what Israel is doing to Palestine now.<<
And what is that exactly?
Whitney, thank you for your response. Let me repeat the last sentence of the last quote of my original comment:
"The hardest thing is getting white folks to understand YOU DON’T GET TO DECIDE WHAT IS RACIST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT EXPERIENCE IT.""
The above sentence can be difficult to grasp; yet, it explains why it is so hard for a white person to understand racism. Because of white privilege racism tends to go right by most Whites. I think that it happened to you during your comment about racism-again- and you didn't notice.
"Racism" in America exists because of the color of skin, which was perpetrated by Whites. Again, as Einstein said, "Racism is the disease of the white man." He was referring to what was going on in America that was killing thousands of Blacks.
The struggle between the Israelis and Arabs, the Sunnis and Shiites, is something different, it is not because of the color of skin. Anyway, I won't go on because I would repeat myself about the definition of racism including the other quote in my original comment to you. Both of which it appears as though you inadvertently missed.
'Racism' can be difficult to understand and relate to, especially if you are White with white privileges. So much whiteness can be blinding, but it is not insurmountable as some Whites are proving. Where there is a 'will', there is a way.
Peace.
Anonymous @ 7:29PM,
OK, thank you for the constructive feedback and I will take a deeper look at myself and others.
Pease to you as well,
Whitney B.
i love it!
no one protested the same very toons about bush
and obama/gwb 2.0 and bush are doing the very same things to us all!
kudos to the posters...may they go global as they have gone viral!!!
Truth is stranger than fiction. Reality is crueler than any film script. Batman is a heroic fantasy. But, politicos far more hellish than The Joker are real indeed!!!
Here is a cruel joke that is a ruthless reality: EVERY antic by George W. Bush that was so vehemently opposed by political rebels is now being cowardly accepted when duplicated and escalated by the blackish President Barack Obama/GWB 2.0!!!
Kudos to conscious rebels nationwide who dare to protest Obama’s incessant and increasingly fatal lies, war games, and financial genocides!!! They are plastering posters of Obama as The Joker while Obama is morbidly regentrifying our entire country as never before.
The elitists and their war mongering capitalist peers are playing global jokes with toxic punch lines that are swiftly decimating the middle class and destroying the poor each day. The fallout of Obama’s political jokes will slay the masses for decades.
Hypocritical Obama Nazis dare to protest this free speech by rebels who bravely see the real monstrous face of Obama, beneath his mythically heroic blackish mask. When blind fools awake, they will see that Obama is indeed a legendary joker politico. They will see that Bush joked us when he cloned Obama as a shady puppet to secure his third stolen and illegal term as president. And, they will find that we are all the doomed butts of these two political monsters’ dual global jokes.
See more on Obama as The Joker:
http://www.eurweb.com/printable.cfm?id=55133
http://thewiddershins.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/obamabush.jpg
See Obama’s mentor as his joker clone here:
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2008/07/bush-as-joker.html
ps:
an even better poster is the new cover of the advocate!
go obama rebels!!!
Finally, a major gay magazine has dared to tell the truth about the blackish President Barack Obama/GWB 2.0! Obama loves homosexuals no more than his puppeteer George W. Bush. Obama’s pals are notorious gaybashers like the vulgar and sinful homohater Rick Warren, macho abusive parent Tony Dungy, and the psychotic self-hating homosexual Donnie McClurkin.
Why should Obama’s identical homohating bigotry be excused simply because he is half black? Why should homosexual voters whom Obama pimped at the polls continue to be silent about his subsequent serial betrayals? When will DROVES of homosexuals stop being coddling doormats for Obama’s increasingly callous and filthy political whims?
We homosexuals are at war in America. Obama has never been a sincere ally. Obama is at best a friendly enemy to gays. Such “frenemies” are distinctions without differences from enemies who feign only suicidal alliances. YES WE CAN KEEP IT REAL AND CALL OBAMA OUT AS OUR ENEMY!!!
Obama has betrayed millions of other voters even more than he has dogged homosexuals. They include countless teachers who loathe the academic genocide of NCLB, and millions of newly homeless foreclosed homeowners. I am anxiously awaiting any magazine that caters to poor people/educators to follow The Advocate’s admirable lead. I will not hold my breath as I do so…
Read The Advocate here:
http://advocate.com/current_cover_ektid100360.asp
http://advocate.com/issue_story_ektid102115.asp
http://advocate.com/issue_story_ektid102124.asp
http://advocate.com/news_detail_ektid86836.asp
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