Wednesday, February 17, 2010

Ain't no party like a Compton party....


Tonight I am in a racism chasing mode, although I really didn't want to be. But this UCSD thing has me, once again, contemplating issues of race and A-merry-ca's future.

Some of you have mentioned the incident it in the comments section on this blog, and tonight I got an e-mail from someone at UCSD who wanted me to post about it, (shout out to* Natasha)so post I will.

But I am going to approach this post from a different angle. I will not get up on a soap-box and rant about racism in A-merry-ca and it's effects on our national psyche. No, instead, I want to learn. I want to truly understand the mind set of people in the majority here in A-merry-ca.

Because honestly, it's not about a bunch of ignorant college students having a ghetto party to commemorate black history month, (hell these types of parties have been going on forever, and I suspect that there will be more of them in the future) and it's not about what type of literal harm they can bring to one black person in A-merry-ca. Rather, it's about something much deeper and pernicious, and it's something worth discussing as we try to make this country that we love so much live up to her promise.

So here is my question to white folks reading this: (Honest answer please)

When you see a black man in a Hickey Freeman suit, starched white shirt, wingtips, a very nice silk-tie, and a brief case walking down the street, are you thinking...well let me give you a quote from the flyer at UCSD:

"For guys: I expect all males to be rockin Jersey's, stuntin' up in ya White T (XXXL smallest size acceptable), anything FUBU, Ecko, Rockawear, High/low top Jordans or Dunks, Chains, Jorts, stunner shades, 59 50 hats, Tats, etc....We will be serving 40's, Kegs of Natty, dat Purple Drank- which consists of sugar, water, and the color purple , chicken, coolade, and of course Watermelon. So come one and come all, make ya self before we break ya self, keep strapped, get yo shine on, and join us for a day party to be remembered- or not..."

.....so is that what you are thinking when you see the black man in my hypothet? Is your imagery of black folks so messed up that this is the only way you can identify with something having to do with Black History Month? Then, of course, your image of black women doesn't seem to be any better:

"For girls: For those of you who are unfamiliar with ghetto chicks-Ghetto chicks usually have gold teeth, start fights and drama, and wear cheap clothes - they consider Baby Phat to be high class and expensive couture. They also have short, nappy hair, and usually wear cheap weave, usually in bad colors, such as purple or bright red.They look and act similar to Shenaynay, and speak very loudly, while rolling their neck, and waving their finger in your face. Ghetto chicks have a very limited vocabulary, and attempt to make up for it, by forming new words, such as "constipulated", or simply cursing persistently, or using other types of vulgarities, and making noises, such as "hmmg!", or smacking their lips, and making other angry noises,grunts, and faces.The objective is for all you lovely ladies to look, act, and essentially take on these "respectable" qualities throughout the day." [Story]

So why is this? I mean I don't see kids at HBCU's having red neck parties, calling them West Virginia hoe downs, and doing all types of stereotypical things that they associate with rednecks; all in the name of fun. But yet, this is a persistent theme with white kids at various college campuses.

Honestly, (and I have to get like my man uptown Steve now) I have been in more black upscale homes than white ones, and my dentist, doctor, broker, and accountant, are all black.

I really don't know any black males or females like the ones mentioned in the flyer (yes I am sure they exist, but I don't know any) and the black professionals I associate with are more cultured and urbane than the white ones. So again, where does this come from? Is it popular culture? (Are black folks their own worst enemies?) Is it home training? Or is it,as some have suggested, an overpowering need by some folks in the majority population to put down others?

If we don't get the answers, next black history month, you all will be up in arms about another bunch of kids making fun of your race. And yet another institution of -supposed- higher learning will have to do things like the following:

"UCSD CAMPUS NOTICE University of California, San Diego OFFICE OF THE CHANCELLOR OFFICE OF THE VICE CHANCELLOR - STUDENT AFFAIRS February 16, 2010 ALL ACADEMICS AND STAFF AT UCSD ALL STUDENTS AT UCSD SUBJECT: Condemnation of Off-Campus Party and Affirmation of Principles of Community We were distressed to learn that over the weekend an offensively themed student party, mocking the commemoration of Black History Month, took place off campus. We strongly condemn this event and the blatant disregard of our campus values. Although the party was not a UC SanDiego student-organization sponsored event, participants did include UCSan Diego students and that causes us great concern. As stated in our Principles of Community, we reject acts of discrimination based on race, ethnicity, gender, age,disability, sexual orientation, religion, and political beliefs, and, we will confront and appropriately respond to such acts. We reaffirm our Principles of Community and encourage the campus to join us in our affirmation. In addition, we invite students, staff and faculty to participate in at each-in from noon to 2 p.m. on February 24 in the Price Center East Ballroom to explore how such incidents continue to occur today and to discuss the importance of mutual respect and civility on our campus.

Marye Anne Fox Chancellor, Penny RueVice Chancellor - Student Affairs"

Blah blah blah blah. Sorry Marye Anne, in post racial A-merry-ca, anything goes.

*Thanks again Natasha, keep holding it down at UCSD. 200 among 20,000.00 in Ward Connerly country has got to be tough on even the strongest Field Negro.

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alicia banks said...

cf:

seriously???????????!!!!!!

i bash black racists all the time for their masochistic and suicidal obsessions over hobama

BUT

that has NOTHING to do with racist white kids on campuses in blackfaced parties etc!!!

see much more on black obama nazis all over my blog!

but

you will also see me bash white racists there too!

unlike you, i will never excuse anyone of any race who does wrong!!!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com
a

mellaneous said...

I'll take on Mazuuel

At bottom people like Mazuel are dishonest. For one he doesn't have evidence to back his claim, because his claim IS A LIE!!! Notice he didn't bother to provide an anedote.

He should ask himself the question, why does he believe that blacks who are successful are somehow inferior or unqualified?

I mean he most likely doesn't assume folks who have been given positions/promotions because their brother works there, or because their parents went to school there, or because they are white, are unqualified.

No he wants to believe that blacks are unqualified because deep down he knows that blacks in the US and his native France are discriminated against and that the playing field is slanted toward middle class and white wealthy folks.

So he is pissed because he knows deep down inside he may not have had the intestinal fortitude that a majority of blacks have had that have allowed them to achieve in spite of all the racist barriers thrown in their way.

He also has to label them as less because it doesn't fit his preconcieved notions this makes him dishonest because he won't admit that he really wants to see black people as inferior and all the successful blacks mess up his ideology.

He is also deep down inside an insecure coward who is jealous and a bit envious of black folks, because he knows he could not have achieved under the same circumstances.

Faced with the same challenges he would be somewhere on the street with a tin cup in his hand and he knows it.


UCF -- you have a point for once. When black politicians don't work for primarily black districts they should be voted out. But you miss the reason they continue to stay. Our community is too apathetic and sometimes too cowardly to admit that this system doesn't work so rather than rolling up our sleeves and doing the hard work it would take to better all of our lives we simply bury our heads in the sand.

Anonymous said...

FN- you MUST comment on that bus thing that went down on Monday in Oakland. There is tons of stuff on the web about it. Here is one link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnZlDwKCMGY&feature=related

You can also find a written transcript and the video set to music. INSANE

Anonymous said...

I am a lecturer at UCSD and have had some very uncomfortable quarters there. By the way, UC San Diego has a very large Asian student population, so it is quite likely that there were as many students of Asian descent there as White. Many of the Southeast Asian students can be quite 'nasty'.

buckydent said...

report me to the ADL

The ADL is as bad as some of the folks here. All reflexive, unthinking hyper-sensitivity and victimhood, no understanding of the wider culture, and zero desire to LEARN.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]
The real reason that the kids party is problematic is that they will go on to graduate and maybe hold positions of power or decide who gets to work or not and if this is their attitude it will indeed cause some black folks problems.
[/quote]

Indeed Mellaneous - YOU ARE A VISIONARY OF THE FUTURE and that future is WHITE FOLKS ON TOP.

What about the Asians?
Japan just took over the top spot as the PRIMARY holder of US Debt once again.

How do YOU know that you won't be forced to learn Chinese or Japanese as a means of understanding the words that your new MANAGER is commanding you to do?

You can't envision this - can you?
Just as this specific land was not an English or Spanish speaking land - it was power relationships between people that made it so.

Can you envision the day in which your OWNERS are changed Mellaneous? Do you ever imagine the day that those who LOOK LIKE YOU stand on top?

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Our community is too apathetic and sometimes too cowardly to admit that this system doesn't work so rather than rolling up our sleeves and doing the hard work it would take to better all of our lives we simply bury our heads in the sand.[/quote]

Mellaneous - when you say "THIS SYSTEM" which are you speaking of?

AT WHAT POINT does "THIS SYSTEM" have enough FAVORABLE PEOPLE in place and thus becomes YOUR SYSTEM? It seems that the characteristic of the permanent rebel is that he remains on the permanent struggle because he never accepts HIS OWN INCUMBENCY.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]you will also see me bash white racists there too!

unlike you, i will never excuse anyone of any race who does wrong!!!
[/quote]

My friend AB -

I see that our tentative and unspoken agreement to remain as "two ships passing in the night" - has been severed. Knowing that we are coming from two different foundations for our arguments but reaching some common points of agreement none the less. Unlike UptownSteve, however, I come to the table with a more focused clarity on WHAT I WANT OUT OF A DEBATE.

Thus, AB - IF we both mutually agree that our common interests is to have "More Black folks ALIVE and THRIVING after matriculating through their first 30 years (at least) of the eco-system of our community" then there are a few points that we must note per our PRIORITIES.

1) WHITE KIDS way across the nation mocking my RACE (or at least certain stereotypes of it) don't cause physical harm to me in the least.

2) In fact my FOCUS upon their IGNORANCE merely takes time away from what I NEED TO BE FOCUSING UPON. THEY effectively SET OUR AGENDA per our CHASING ACTIVITIES.

3) In fact it can get to the point that our NEED to get a job from them is a direct result of our own communities having failed to invest in systems that can ENGAGE the human resources with our own communities and make them most productive

4) A Police man that shot a Black person is an EQUAL HUMAN BEING to the Black man who donned the "Street Pirate" uniform per his ACTIONS and thus killed another in the same vein.

5) ONLY the authority that this government has per its force of violence and ability to fine or incarcerate you provides them with such AUTHORITY. We all CHOOSE to live under their rule.

6) The key question is - do you focus on your EXPECTATIONS placed upon this AUTHORITY to render a higher level of JUSTICE and forthrightness or do you focus upon the common DEATH that both the "racist" police man and the "Street Pirate" who wore a "pro-Black" t-shirt as he committed his murder?

7) WHAT DO YOU ASK OF THIS MAN WITH NO BADGE AND NO AUTHORITY? Where is his CONSCOUSNESS that he has taken an oath to?

8) At what point does QUANTITY of homicides over take the QUALITY of the "murderer" before you prioritize which of these problems we should target?

9) When the QUANTITY exceeds a certain threshold the same BLACK COMMUNITY that protests against the POLICE SHOOTING is the same BLACK COMMUNITY that DEMANDS EQUAL PROTECTION from the POLICE. Today this community is asking for PROTECTION FROM the Street Pirates who's THEY were the "hands that ROCKED THE CRADLE" per the prevailing culture and consciousness that seeped into his mind via the osmosis of time and awareness of his surroundings.

So tell me AB - is your GOAL the same as MINE?

Black men living long lives as MEN in the community, rather than morphing into STREET PIRATES per their ACTIONS - which assault the community?

I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THESE IGNORANT WHITE KIDS AT THE PARTY.
When they start kicking in doors then my rifle scope will change.

uptownsteve said...

CF

"how do you explain that he stands today with a 91% to 93% APPROVAL RATING AMONG BLACK FOLKS? This DESPITE having high Black unemployment etc?

Ditto about Black on Black homicides, etc."

This is just absolute garbage.

You should be ashamed to write nonsense like this.

Anonymous said...

uts, stop being so obsessed with CF, you moron.

Constructive Feedback said...

So this is the post that you all are talking about from Mazuel

[quote]It would appear that the recent arrival blacks (we like to call them the "NS" or nouveau suburban)are always trying to impress with their latest consumer acquisition, as if somehow, accumulating trinkets would validate their sense of worth and earn the respect of their neighbors.[/quote]

Mazuel - I live in a fully diverse community in a conservative county. You could drive through my subdivision and NOT KNOW the race of the owner of the house.

I am mot sure how you are satisfied about making a summary statement that accurately captures the mentality of all of the Blacks who live around you. It appears that you are ignorant.


[quote]Having recently arrived to the petite bourgeoisie, they are pretentious and insufferable, and, quite frankly, coarse. Even their choice of consumer items is tasteless and pedestrian.[/quote]

Mazuel - as equal human beings to you do YOU ever wonder what their appraisal is of YOU?


[quote]Oh, and let's not forget the whole deal about the demand for "respect".[/quote]

I agree that some people are externally dependent upon acceptance. I am not sure that this is attributable to Black people alone.

[quote]
When we first returned, I was surprised at how many families now homeschool and/or privately tutor.
[quote]

Mazuel - I will avoid making it "all about ME" - like UptownSteve but I have to note that my two children have a solid "A" average and a "B+" in their schools. They are lifting UP the standards not dragging them down.


[quote]These rude, vulgar little savages are beyond redemption, and it is best to just avoid the whole tired situation rather than try and inculcate even modest manners and civility.
[/qutoe]

Mazuel: Though your charges are IGNORANT - I refuse to abandon my demands for HIGH STANDARDS to defend against you. Indeed there is a need for an inculcation of a higher level of consciousness. Keep in mind - that this is not exclusive to BLACK FOLKS.

[quote]
After all, Mommy and (sometimes) Daddy, newly arrived to the suburbs, not by merit, but by box-checking and the joys of Affirmative Action, have taught them well that the normal rules of conduct do not apply to them.
[/quote]

Wow.
In these suburbs there is afar greater number of intact Black families than elsewhere. I think that YOU need to decide if your goal is to malign all Black people or to celebrate those of us who are doing the right thing.

I have NEVER been a direct beneficiary of Affirmative Action. In fact IGNORANT PEOPLE LIKE YOU who seek to tar us all as such some been seen as one NEGATIVE to accepting this program.

Day in and day out I am asked to articulate my company's products and services. Mostly White males are on the listening end of my conversations. One thing that I have learned Mazuel is that we are all EQUAL HUMAN BEINGS. Every race has their share of geniuses and ignoramuses.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]You should be ashamed to write nonsense like this.[/quote]

Care to explain - WhiteBowieSteve?

In fact I have argued that when it comes to the Black community the community cannot ONLY be evaluated per its view of President Obama.

Our communities are controlled by the entire MACHINE that Obama now sits atop of. It is mind-numbing to believe that with these aggregate facts at hand and YET people like YOU can blame the bulk of your problems upon HISTORICAL forces and EXTERNAL forces TODAY.

Anonymous said...

you happy now La-audiobooks? uts is not your friend, remember?

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQJFv9SMSMQ

FN- you must comment about the above incident which happened Monday in Oakland. It is a perfect combination of sad and funny and a reflection of society.

And here is a slow motion version:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHFA-Me1hQs

and the version set to music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnOpEZ2abFo&feature=video_response

Anonymous said...

@field -- If black kids threw redneck parties at HBCUs these kids would join in the bashing of rednecks. That's the way it is. These privileged white kids hate and demean poor whites too and wouldn't for a moment associate themselves with what was being made fun of. White trash is called trash for a reason -- to these folks white trash isn't white or human.

--j

uptownsteve said...

CF

"In fact I have argued that when it comes to the Black community the community cannot ONLY be evaluated per its view of President Obama."

Who is making this argument?

There are many blacks who are disillusioned and disappointed in Obama after a mere year in office.

There are others, like myself, who believe he is hamstrung by Congress machinations, a crappy economy, unrealistic expectations and the dysfunctional state of American politics.

"Our communities are controlled by the entire MACHINE that Obama now sits atop of. It is mind-numbing to believe that with these aggregate facts at hand and YET people like YOU can blame the bulk of your problems upon HISTORICAL forces and EXTERNAL forces TODAY."

You just keep ranting this same old tired bullsquat.

CF FOR THE THOUSANDTH TIME, me and the black people I live, work and socialize with are not depraved ghetto dwellers but striving, responsible tax paying professionals.

WE ARE NOT UNUSUAL.

We are Americans and our problems and concerns are not very different from any other Americans of our income level except being black we have the added burden of racism to deal with.

You mentioned earlier that blacks keep supporting the same entrenched policies of this amorphous "black establishment" when examples of success by other means have been demonstrated.

WHAT ARE THEY?

Let's hear it.

If you don't respond definitely to this challenge (as usual) then you'll just prove yourself to be a ranting partisan hack.

uptownsteve said...

"you happy now La-audiobooks? uts is not your friend, remember?"

I still like and respect la@audio.

We've had some heated disagreements regarding bm/bw relationships but I have no anomosity toward her.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

People talk as if those white kids at UCSD come from some wealthy family. They are middleclass white kids.

Whites have been making fun of black folks since our ancestors were brought over here in slave ships. They've made fun of Asian, Hispanics/Latinoes, Arabs, Iranians, Eastern Indians, Native American Indians all throughout history. It makes them feel superior when they label people with negative terms that degrade, denigrate, and humilate them.

Other groups of people don't make fun of white children who walk around with spiked hair. How can they talk about 40 ounces when they turn a whole keg of beer upside down and drink from it. Not only that they pour it over their head like it is bath water or something. What about those white children that walk around looking weird with about 10 earring piercings in their tongue and lip that wear black color lipstick and nail polish or dressing in all black with different color hair such as purple, blue, etc. Not to mention some of their white females are immune to clothes too and wear revealing stuff as well. And their young men wear baggies sagging and hoodies too. So, those white kids at UCSD are full of dung.

I've been around white folks before and to one of their parties once when I was younger. You wouldn't believe the stuff that goes on at theirs. Trust me, you'll be looking for the nearest exit to hurry up and get away from there and it won't because of racism either.

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Race Traitoress said...

@Constructive Feedback

Racial Traderess - You appear to come from the Tim Wise school of thought.

Actually, more from the Noel Ignatiev school of thought, or, perhaps, Peggy McIntosh's school, though I've read some Tim Wise and tend to agree with him, as well.

And what's up with re-interpreting my online name as a snide insult? I've never played such childish games with you. As much as I hate it when writers post anonymously, at least they don't open themselves up to this ridiculous display of juvenile snark.


What do Black people do if WHITE FOLKS say "You are RIGHT about us, you BLACK FOLKS. BUT WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO DO ABOUT IT, PUNKS???"

What happens after all of the LEGITIMATE "Civil Rights Violations" claims are exhausted? (Physical beatings, implicit discrimination, etc) and instead we are left having to MAKE "Rights" so that we can feel VIOLATED?

Now "Benign Neglect" in the lands that FAVORABLE PEOPLE have been elected locally to deliver upon the promises is put upon the NATIONAL government in the name of Social Justice Rights.

Race Traderess - at what point do we note that a SHIFT has occurred which is actually a SLIGHT OF HAND? Previously the MAYOR and other city and county machine operatives were the center of protests for failing to deliver. Now that these seats are firmly ensconced by favorable people the occupants have us FOCUSING UPWARD to the next rung of government, thus escaping personally accountability. Worse yet the SYSTEM OF IDEAS that the occupant and those who VOTED FOR HIM escape introspection regarding its ability to GARNER PRODUCTIVITY from the people within this domain.


What the HELL are you talking about? Like Dogberry, you are "too cunning to be understood."

Race Traderess - the worst possible scenario for the prevailing Black Progressive theory to come face to face with is a group of WHITE FOLKS who are NOT TRYING TO LYNCH THEM but instead seeking to CIRCLE THEIR OWN WAGONS and make note that THE NEGRO IS NOW FREE FROM ASSAULT BY THEM - LET THEM AS WHITE FOLKS live inside their own garden plot, with their own cultural standards retained - all the while the Negro is asked to live within his.

Where are you getting this stuff? You preach segregation all you like, but don't include me in your sweeping generalizations.

Race Traderess - my present project is to ATTACK the attacks upon Charter Schools because they lack DIVERSITY. This claim comes DESPITE the fact that these Charters in NYC and other places are substantially outperforming the public school in the very same community. Thus we are being sold that DIVERSITY is now more important than ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE as the haters seek to thwart the Organic Black Community initiative of educational reform.

Well, it's good to know we charter school teachers have your support, sir.

Besides, I've never suggested that those NYC schools you refer to need to include whites to promote diversity within the student body. Why are you telling me this? White people have a lot more to gain from a diverse environment than Black people do, of course. White people are the ones who are blind, ignorant, and insulated.

You're making up arguments to have with me, and you go right ahead, if it makes you happy.

Anonymous said...

Angie-in-Japan, "Nice to be back, everybody. I had a death in my family at the beginning of the year and wasn't in the mood to be online. Nobody ran me off as some might suggest!! LOL..."

I am sorry to hear about your loss, losing a love one is always difficult on the heart. Somehow the death of someone you loved leaves one with new meaning to life, as a departing gift. Death has a way of doing that. When my father died, it completely changed my outlook on life and purpose.

I have missed your comments but certainly there are more important things in life than blogging. Btw, I never thought you left the blog because of the jealous angry witch who still taunts and insults bw who love bm. Poor thing. LOL

Please take time to grieve, and give your heart time to mend for as long as it takes. I look forward to your comments whenever the urge prompts you....Peace.

Anonymous said...

@granny -- These privileged white kids terrorize those white kids with colored hair and piercings. These privileged white kids see anyone who isn't them as inferior and don't consider what they deem inferior whites to be of them at all. So you can point out any kind of white person you like and unless you're making fun of buffy and biff -- they're particular social network -- it won't phase them except for them joining in whatever cruelty is being thrown out. They hate everyone that isn't them regardless of color.

--j

Anonymous said...

It's real simple. Treat people like you want to be treated.

szpork

Anonymous said...

RT-"Where are you getting this stuff? You preach segregation all you like, but don't include me in your sweeping generalizations"

You must understand that CF is an Einstein of sort, which at times can make him difficult to understand. But that's the mark of a genius. Take Einstein's Theory of Relativity: Can you REALLY understand how he came to it?

The same goes for the genius of CF. It's a pity that you, Mellaneous, Field, Trapped in SC, and other people can't understand him because you folks are missing a GREAT TEACHING!!!

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

J:

That is sad! They must be some very miserable people on the inside.

Trapped in SC said...

"You must understand that CF is an Einstein of sort, which at times can make him difficult to understand. But that's the mark of a genius. Take Einstein's Theory of Relativity: Can you REALLY understand how he came to it?"

Tell me that other joke you know.

CF is a African-American teabagger.

That's all.

Anonymous said...

Fp, "side-note: my ruthless streak is well-defined. those females that aid and abet in the oppression of other women get no mercy from me. in fact, i derive pleasure from toying with you mercilessly. so bring it...if you dare. try not to be ghetto. you are in mixed company. lol!"

What's so ruthless?

MeandMyMicroscope said...

Angie-in-Japan, "Nice to be back, everybody. I had a death in my family at the beginning of the year and wasn't in the mood to be online. Nobody ran +me off as some might suggest!! LOL..."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hi Angie, I'm also sorry to hear of your loss. I lost my grandmother and father within six months of each other, so I know how you feel. Take care of yourself!!!

But really who cares about "black" party's at UCSD when we have so called Black afrocentric hypocrites, disparaging other blacks for being successful and happy when they're not, hatin' black men ostensibly because they don't have one or have been with one in the last 30 years??

No, I say give me a UCSD "black" party over a handkerchief head like fp ANY day, LOL!!!

Anonymous said...

and making noises, such as "hmmg


Granny is that you???

Anonymous said...

We hear and see racists daily on TV and on the radio. It's constant and virulent. Fox News is devoted to tea-baggers, birthers, and promotes the very worst instincts in humans and of what we are as a society. When not hating on black folks, they're hating on gays, or those scary brown folks streaming across the border. Hate, it's what they do, it's what they're good at, scaring dumb white folks who think this country belongs only to them. I try and stay positive but its tuff some days when you see garbage like this party.

MeandMyMicroscope said...

Anonymous said...
Fp, "side-note: my ruthless streak is well-defined. those females that aid and abet in the oppression of other women get no mercy from me. in fact, i derive pleasure from toying with you mercilessly. so bring it...if you dare. try not to be ghetto. you are in mixed company. lol!"

What's so ruthless?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

It's called having a bad case of the the "Lacks", lack of intelligence, lack of happiness, lack of someone special, lack of self-love, lack of education, lack of common sense, lack of class, lack of dignity, lack of purpose (despite the user name), and a lack of peace.

Anonymous said...

@granny -- I don't know if they have the good sense or enough consciousness to be miserable but they certainly act as though they are.

--j

Anonymous said...

Hey check this out, put black paint on chicks that date black guys.

agape2010 said...

@ anon @ 5:32

Since you quoted ME...I'll be gracious enough to answer w/o going into a diatride.

MEN still have the real power in THIS country. So the fight begins there...and shit rolls downhill... which is what black women get.

Living my entire life as black woman I am well aware of how racism is formed in the minds of people. White women, generally, do not form these ideas. Racist ideas are formed by MEN (some - not all)...and therefore MEN (some - not all) are the root cause of racism. :)

P.
A.2010

Anonymous said...

Trapped in SC, ""You must understand that CF is an Einstein of sort, which at times can make him difficult to understand. But that's the mark of a genius. Take Einstein's Theory of Relativity: Can you REALLY understand how he came to it?"

Tell me that other joke you know.

CF is a African-American teabagger."

Uh oh. You shouldn't have said that. When CF reads your comment, he is going to rip you a new one.

Anonymous said...

ISEEISEE, "Field, now I know why you came down on the Black Caucus the way you did! YOU JUST DON'T GET IT!"

ISEEISEE, please pray for Field.

Anonymous said...

shocking. see you again in july. same old shit I'll bet

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grinder said...

Yes, I have blogged about ignorant people (black and white) in the city before. (And will continue to) I see these people,and represent them in a professional manner, but I don't KNOW any. See the difference?

I don't spend too much time at this place any more. I decided it was not only predictable, but a no-win situation. (bucky dent, give up now -- trust me)

Tonight I was in a mood, so here I am, simultaneously puking and laughing at this preposterous thread. Field, nice try, for a Philadelphia lawyer. You see these people, and you professionally represent them, but you don't know them. Which is to say that, in your mind, you can't "know" anyone you don't see socially. Further, if you don't "know" someone, you can perform the rhetorical trick of separating yourself from them, and pretend that nothing they do will ever rub off.

How convenient for you. And how ridiculous and how utterly hypocritical. Which is another reason I've quit coming here. But I'm here now, so I will continue.

You dare to ask how the UCSD students could get their material, as if anyone can't turn on their TV set, go to the iTunes store, or just walk the streets and look around. Are all black people jigging? Of course not. But to pretend that none of them do is a stinking, steaming pile of horseshit from here to the goddamned moon and back, a couple hundred times. Really, just who the fuck do you think you're kidding?

Now let's move on to the hypocrisy. You dare to sit here and separate yourself from the trash of the black ghetto, while turning right around and connecting whites to every floor-crawling, drunken, violent, meth-addled redneck white whackjob who yells nigger in a crowded theater. Of course, the black minstrels who take the "r" off, well we just won't mention them, will we? Why, because you don't "know" them. Nice trick.

You can parade this total crap in front of the packed jury on your blog, and maybe in front of an all-black jury in Philly, and "win" the case. But I call bullshit on this, and so would anyone else with half a brain. Do yourself a favor, Field. I don't expect you to hop off the train you ride, at least not in public, but don't lie to your own self. People who do that wind up being your clients.

carmenjonze said...

Wonder what happened to my comment. I suppose I'll post it again.

From bad to worse...first a bunch of wackjobs defending this party of UCSD functional illiterats, into the sewer of conspiracy theories about The Jews™ controlling everything including Obama.

This is why I don't include comments on my blogs.

nyc/caribbean ragazza said...

The dude with the hat on that photo might have a hard time get a job after he graduates. One word...Google.

Idiot.

Cocoa Fly said...

I'm a UCSD alum and this is not a total shock to some of the black alumni. but it is sad. I blogged about my experience at the school.

http://cocoafly.blogspot.com/2010/02/uc-san-diego-students-racist-compton.html

Constructive Feedback said...

Anon:

Thank you for being one who doesn't get a dose of "fake illiteracy" when it comes to my words.

Unfortunately history tells us that BIGOTS are not changed by merely producing compelling literature, written at an 8th grade reading level. Instead they must be CHECKED with the force of law. (in their case it is the ACCEPTANCE OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT THEIR ESTABLISHMENT POWER has rendered)

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]There are many blacks who are disillusioned and disappointed in Obama after a mere year in office.[/quote]

WhiteBowieSteve:

DISILLUSIONED is not an accurate statement.
REMOVAL of the Chinese made SUNGLASSES that many of you all purchased from the MALL, along with your "Obama Limited Edition Commemorative Plate" is a more accurate statement.

A person who is "disillusioned" had REASONABLE thoughts, only to see them undermined. THIS does not describe the "Yes We Can", "Obama Is A Blank Canvas that we will PAINT UPON", "I am too young to have seen JESUS when he walked the Earth but Obama is the closest that I'll ever see" crowd.

Steve YOU and Filled Negro, AfroSpear, Ebony, BET, others deserve your share of the blame. YOU painted OBAMA'S ELECTION in and of itself as OUR "racial advancement".

It would be better if Obama resigned his seat tomorrow and prior to leaving got the Federal Democrats that control the House and Senate to pass a law that approved a new SPECIAL ELECTION for the selection of the new president. Thus FORMER PRESIDENT OBAMA can go BACK ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. He could be sold as the SECOND BLACK PRESIDENT.

YOU can then send your money into him again and get back into the campaign spirit.

You can argue that the Tea Party people are merely White racists who don't want to have a SECOND Black president in office.


[quote]
There are others, like myself, who believe he is hamstrung by Congress machinations, a crappy economy, unrealistic expectations and the dysfunctional state of American politics.

[/quote]

Filled Negro:

Here is what I don't understand about you. The Democratic Party had a 60 vote SUPER MAJORITY IN THE SENATE and the majority in the House.

Just as Filled Negro doesn't accept the INCUMBENCY in Philly - YOU have a problem loading your EXPECTATIONS that after doing your part to grow and maintain this Democratic super Majority - THEY HAVE FAILED.

Instead you choose to focus on the MINORITIES in Congress and how disruptive they are. Again you show that you are of the same mind of your White oppressors as they also focus on the MINORITY rather than their own shortcomings.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]CF is a African-American teabagger.
[/quote]


Low & Country:

Let's understand what a Tea Parter is and then we can identify MORE Black people who are in line.

* A tea partyer is tired of being taxed. Locally there have been a series of angry legislative meetings expressing concern about increased local taxes and cuts in services.

* YOU REMINDED ME - I need to post a video about the confrontation with the Dekalb County GA Board. They are forcing pay cuts upon all of the employees but THEY don't have to take a pay cut. Dekalb is the "second wealthiest Black majority county" standing behind UptownSteve's bit of Utopia in PGC MD

Anonymous said...

Why won't MMM/FLY aka the blog whore hurry up and get a life? Who cares about you and all the 'black men' you sleep with?

uptownsteve said...

WHOAAAA.

Grinder launches a full-throated racist volley at 1:00 AM!

"You dare to ask how the UCSD students could get their material, as if anyone can't turn on their TV set, go to the iTunes store, or just walk the streets and look around."

So what's your point here Grinder?

You mean to tell me that if some college kids had a party mocking gays as leather chap wearing dominatrixes with AIDS lesions that you wouldn't be the first one crying foul?????

Are you going to say those types of people DON'T EXIST????

Yeah, but are they the majority, the typical gay??

You are so full of $hit if you took a dump you'd be a glass figurine.

"Now let's move on to the hypocrisy. You dare to sit here and separate yourself from the trash of the black ghetto, while turning right around and connecting whites to every floor-crawling, drunken, violent, meth-addled redneck white whackjob who yells nigger in a crowded theater."

Now I'M calling bullshit.

PRODUCE ONE EXAMPLE OF THIS or admit that you are merely trying to rationalize your sick, obsessive hatred of black folks.

MeandMyMicroscope said...

uptownsteve said...
You are so full of $hit if you took a dump you'd be a glass figurine.
>>>>>>>>

Classic UTS, ROTFLMBAO!!!!!!

alicia banks said...

cf:

we agree to disagree!

ALL racists are equally important to me, black ones and white ones

ALL bigoted fools of all races vex me equally like all hatreds, all humans are related!!!

these racist whites kids matter to me equally!
ie
they will grad and then harass black peers/hires
just as black thugs harass peers/hire gangs etc

i want to save the world

you want to save only black america

therein lies the difference between you and i

"We are everlasting debtors to known and unknown men and women.... When we arise in the morning, we go into the bathroom where we reach for a sponge provided for us by a Pacific Islander. We reach for soap that is created for us by a Frenchman. The towel is provided by a Turk. Then at the table we drink coffee which is provided for us by a South American, or tea by a Chinese, or cocoa by a West African. Before we leave for our jobs, we are beholden to more than half the world."
~Martin Luther King, Jr., Strength to Love, 1963

uptownsteve said...

AB

"you want to save only black america"

You really believe CF and coonservatives like him want the best for black America?

CF is an internet charlatan who draws attention to himself by being a black person who peddles the white racist lie that the black community at large suffers from some cultural depravity which can only be alleviated by blacks adopting the beliefs and values of the very whites who have fought tooth and nail against black advancement.

A black frontman for white resentment.

That's something to put on your gravestone.

alicia banks said...

uts:

i agree with a lot of what cf says...

but i will never agree that black ills erase white ones

no ills erase any others
all of th e-isms are interrelated

racism/sexism/heteosexism/classism/colorism/elitism...etc

i hate them ALL equally

even as i disagree with cf, i respect him per his own id:

"If I didn't define myself for myself, I would be crunched into other people's fantasies for me and eaten alive." -Audre Lorde ...

ArtMaggot Hysteria said...

Why should I care, I do not live my life for those that hate or have no respect for me.

grinder said...

A "Philadelphia lawyer" is adept at his craft, but a dishonest human being. He uses sophistry and technical tricks to achieve his results. You will hire him, or read his blog, but you will trust him at your peril.

So, Field isn't a saint. Who is? His postings are useful. They provide indirect insights into the state of black America. Try as he might, Field can't hide the contradictions, and it's those contradictions that provide the insights.

The comment section is, in the aggregate, atrocious. To the extent that there is direct value, it usually comes from the various Anons, especially the black Anons who are intellectually honest. Most of the black regulars, and you all know who you are, serve as the means by which a lurker can observe the inner turmoil of a community in crisis.

There is no real hope here of candid dialogue from the vast majority of the regulars, whose identities depend on long-held, long-ossified mental maps that will not yield to the starkest facts and realities on the ground.

For me, this presents some dilemmas. As a rationalist who holds only rationality itself sancrosanct, I conclude that further non-Anon participation is useless. Yet, at the same time, I have a hard time with anonymity: It's a drive-by device, a way of throwing a bomb and then scooting out of there. Even if the bomb needs to be thrown, it's not my style to do it that way, so I don't.

The bottom line is that, to the extent that I watch this place in the future, it will be from the sidelines. There's really no point in engagement with the regulars here; you are, in your own way, no different than Sarah Palin and her Tea Party crowd. We can learn much by observing them, but nothing from talking to them, because that crowd, like this one, is determined to learn nothing new.

Sail on, Philly lawyer, and your peanut gallery. You could be better than you are, but I'm not the one who'll make you see the light. You crawled into your caves a long time ago, and you are now allergic to the sun.

alicia banks said...

grinder!

who the hell are you to judge any black person anywhere??????

you are the epitome of the annoying racist queen!

like barney frank on crack!

spare us your arrogant deluded bs!!!

alicia banks said...

grinder:

racist gay white males like you who have no clue about ANY black issues validate NOTHING for me.....especially this black blog!!!!

go do you boi!

fyi

Tersi said...

@grinder: "We can learn much by observing them, but nothing from talking to them, because that crowd, like this one, is determined to learn nothing new.

"Sail on, Philly lawyer, and your peanut gallery. You could be better than you are, but I'm not the one who'll make you see the light. You crawled into your caves a long time ago, and you are now allergic to the sun."

What a bunch of holier-than-thou, paternalistic crap.

We don't need you to teach us anything. We don't need you to counsel us. We don't need you to educate us. We don't need you to lord it over us.

You're not the Lord of the Jungle!

I know you'd like to be. I know that you would like us to kneel to your demands, to bow to your bullshit. I know you think your way is the only way, your approach is the only approach, your word the only word.

Do us all a favor. Stay away! We're all grownups here. We don't need another daddy.

Anonymous said...

grinder-"There's really no point in engagement with the regulars here; you are, in your own way, no different than Sarah Palin and her Tea Party crowd. We can learn much by observing them, but nothing from talking to them, because that crowd, like this one, is determined to learn nothing new."

grinder, I agree with the above 100%. Some of the regulars are EXACTLY like Palin and the Teabaggers! Except they are at the other end of the extreme. But extremism is extremism...it has the same result.

I have missed your valuable input on this blog. I had hoped that you would continue to comment because it is much needed for those who DON'T THINK like so many of the ID regulars. Blacks are not a monolithic group as you well know.

But the regular one-note posters can be quite annoying. They are like a full glass of water that can not take in anything new. However, there are Anons who have open minds willing to consider other perspectives without a self-pitying victimized attitude. Whether you are a racist or not, I won't classify you as one until YOU declare yourself as one, no matter how many times UTS may say so. He is not God and like most humans, is WRONG most of the time.

So, rather than let a mind like UTS or La Idiot define you as a racist, why not address it?

Do you consider yourself a racist?

uptownsteve said...

"Whether you are a racist or not, I won't classify you as one until YOU declare yourself as one, no matter how many times UTS may say so."

In the spirit of consistency will you refrain from classifying the black posters here as extremists and whiners until we declare ourselves as such?

You anonymous posters, whether you be the racists or the TOMS, are the lowest cowards and frauds.

You engage in juvenile rock-throwing and antagonism and lack the guts to identify yourselves and stand by your statements.

Grinder, like FP, is a miserable, unfulfilled sociopath who stands on the corner yelling at passing crowds that they're all going to hell if they don't repent.

Meanwhile everyone looks over at him and laughs while he pushes his shopping cart containing all his belongings with doo-doo stains on the seat of his pants.

focusedpurpose said...

congrats to the microscope female for once not embodying the negative stereotypes attached to bw!

i applaud you! i knew you could do it. i am sure it did not hurt you. i told you i could help you come up. now, let's see if you can maintain. i think you can. focus.

think whatever you must about me to make yourself feel better. folks do what they must. i understand this. LOL! the fact that you don't know me is OBVIOUS.

blessings,
focusedpurpose

focusedpurpose said...

still fixated that uts boy. geesh.

-fp

uptownsteve said...

Just showing you the attention you lack otherwise in your life.

I'm trying to help ya sista.

MeandMyMicroscope said...

uptownsteve said...
Just showing you the attention you lack otherwise in your life.

I'm trying to help ya sista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You're wasting your time my dear UTS. Shit floats, so its always best to just flush and be done with it!

Anonymous said...

Uts-"Grinder, like FP, is a miserable, unfulfilled sociopath who stands on the corner yelling at passing crowds that they're all going to hell if they don't repent.

Meanwhile everyone looks over at him and laughs while he pushes his shopping cart containing all his belongings with doo-doo stains on the seat of his pants."

OUCH!! That hurt so much that it knocked the 'Tom' right out of me...thank you. do you think you can do the same for CF?

grinder said...

So, rather than let a mind like UTS or La Idiot define you as a racist, why not address it?

Do you consider yourself a racist?


This is the last thread here that I expect to comment in, and you have asked a question in what seems to be good faith. The answer starts with the observation that "racism" is a loaded word, especially here, and therefore it's useful to quote Webster's Dictionary's definition of racism.

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"

I don't regard myself as a racist. At the same time, however, I don't think you can be an American of any race without carrying baggage with respect to race. To me, the issue isn't so much whether you have baggage, but how you handle it.

But the regular one-note posters can be quite annoying. They are like a full glass of water that can not take in anything new. However, there are Anons who have open minds willing to consider other perspectives without a self-pitying victimized attitude.

We agree, and you will notice my tip of the hat to many of the Anons, both black and white. As far as I'm concerned, they are the corn in this shitpile, so to speak.

I'd also note that the Anons are fully anonymous. That's not by accident. They aren't gluttons for punishment like I've been. At some point, everyone reaches their limit.

Constructive Feedback said...

(I apologize in advance because I am tired of this punk)

WhiteBowieSteve says:

You really believe CF and coonservatives like him want the best for black America?


BYTCH - Go beyond the caricature of WHAT I WANT FOR BLACK AMERICA.

Look at the FACT that YOUR IDEOLOGY is the DOMINATE one that controls the key institutions over Black America.

PROVE TO ME THAT YOU HAVE THE BEST INTERESTS OF BLACK AMERICA - Punk!!

Your problem is that you want BLACK PEOPLE FED.
You don't care WHERE the food comes from. You ONLY care about the end state of being FED.

The harm that YOUR WAY OF THINKING does to Black America is that it DAMAGES our CULTURAL COMPETENCY. Whereas there is a need to "WORK THROUGH THE PEOPLE" so that their aggregate actions are in support of their own PERMANENT INTERESTS.

You and other BLACK INFERIORISTS fear that by DISTRIBUTING COMPETENCY out to the edge - you destroy the power of your CENTRAL CONTROL.

REGARDLESS of my INTENTIONS for Black America - Punk Steve - whatever YOU and other Black Inferiorists are preparing them for make them UNABLE to withstand my "assault".

Anonymous said...

Fp, on several threads you silenced La from engaging in arguments, but you're on this thread provoking the same arguments. I get it, one miserable, lonely, bitter bw is trying her best to outshine and silence another miserable bw. Take your own advice, you poor lonely miserable woman.

Anonymous said...

CF "The harm that YOUR WAY OF THINKING does to Black America is that it DAMAGES our CULTURAL COMPETENCY. Whereas there is a need to "WORK THROUGH THE PEOPLE" so that their aggregate actions are in support of their own PERMANENT INTERESTS."

Ditto! You could have included Mellaneous too.

S

Eric said...

As sad as this is..they're not making this up..have any of you looked at mtv, vh1 or been to the hood lately. The only black faces, most whites see are the clowns, that they are making fun of(most rappers, athletes, criminals). If we want to cry about something, lets cry about how bad, we make ourselves look. Clean up our act, and then the whitefolks won't have shit to make fun of.

Anonymous said...

Eric, "If we want to cry about something, lets cry about how bad, we make ourselves look. Clean up our act, and then the whitefolks won't have shit to make fun of."

Thank you, Eric!

Tersi said...

Eric said...
"If we want to cry about something, lets cry about how bad, we make ourselves look. Clean up our act, and then the whitefolks won't have shit to make fun of."

Eric, you can do whatever you please. But let me say this: I don't give a rat's ass what whitefolks think.

Nor, do I give a damn whether they "make fun" of blacks or not. I'm not going to change my behavior so that I might look good, cool, or acceptable in their sight.

I don't live by their permission.

Further, we have no "act" to clean up. We don't look "bad," we look black, however we define that, and if that means sagging pants (which many Latinos, and whites imitate), rapping (which many Latinos and whites imitate, buy, and listen to), hair extensions and crazy hair colors (which many whites and Latinos sport), so be it.

I'm not ashamed of being black, nor of what blacks do, no matter how bad, because other racial groups are far worse at it. They have just found a more glamorous way of presenting it.

For example: black gangs vs. the Mafia.

Black gang killing vs. military killing (hundreds of thousands) in places where we shouldn't be, and against a people who didn't attack us. Which is worse?

Black stealing vs. white corporate stealing. There's no comparison. Bernie Madoff's take, alone, is a big embarrassment to these blacks whose take is pennies next to his.

Black drug dealing vs. any number of drug cartels.

As I say, you can conduct your life anyway you see fit. In that, I have no preference. But for me, I live as I choose, and will not attack blacks for choosing whatever they choose, simply because whites find their behavior, or lifestyle unacceptable.

Anonymous said...

Tersi, "As I say, you can conduct your life anyway you see fit. In that, I have no preference. But for me, I live as I choose, and will not attack blacks for choosing whatever they choose, simply because whites find their behavior, or lifestyle unacceptable."


So, why are you discussing Field's post about college white students having a "ghetto party" if you don't care what they think?

You are full of shit.

Tersi said...

@Anon___"So, why are you discussing Field's post about college white students having a "ghetto party" if you don't care what they think?

"You are full of shit."

I'm as full of shit as you're full of shit. At least, for my shit, a regular laxative does the trick.

Let's talk honestly. You seem to have a great deal of hostility. Why else would you say, "You are full of shit."

And I'm willing to bet, too, I have more reasons to express hostility than you.

You know the difference: I choose not to.

But back to your question. I discuss many things that I don't give a damn about.

I discuss the weather, but I don't give a damn if it rains or snow.

I discuss the White Socks, but I don't give a damn if they win or lose.

I've even taken the time to respond to your rather impolite post, but I don't give a damn if you respond, or not.

I have no preference one way or the other.

Tomorrow the sun will rise, whether I'm up to see it or not.

Tonight the sun will set, whether I try to hold it back or not.

There's much in this world that I don't have control over, and that includes white college kids who somehow think that imitating blacks by dressing as they think they dress, behaving in a way they think they behave, and blackening their skin to appear black, they'll suddenly be racially transformed, and become ultra-cool.

For my part, I don't give a damn, but discuss it, I will.

Now, they should give a damn. Here's why. What you make fun of, ridicule, and belittle, you become.

Anonymous said...

I think its interesting that you have to reaffirm your position by stating that your dentist, doctor etc are black. Why should that even matter?

Jeff said...

ONE MIDDLE AGE WHITE MAN'S OPINION.

Its really this simple:

FUBU or "for us by us" is RACISM

My black brothers and sisters using niger in music and to each other ad naseum...then allowing some races to use it, but forbid whites IS RACISM

I really love some of the shows on BET, but the idea of a black station is RACISM.

Black colleges is RACISM.

Voting trends by the black community at large...is RACE Based, therefore RACISM.

Blacks viewing Republicans at Racist, yet...Democrats keep blacks in poverty with welfare...is RACISM.

Seriously, we are all racist to some degree and anyone who denies this is a f'n liar. If you see a white horse and a black horse...you will see color, it is just that simple and if the white or brown horse seemed to cause you more pain in the past...you will react different towards it. This is just basic human behavior.

If my black brother and sister doesn't want to be treated different or called niger...then stop using the word and stop referrring to whites as slave owners, white bread, whitey, "the man", cracker and all the other f'd up names I have heard. Yes, I've heard them, yet my family immigrated here in the 1900's and we had ZERO to do with slavery...yet, blacks trend towards sterotyping all whites as culpable for slavery.

Anonymous said...

Mazuel does sound like a jerk, but assuming from his "I'm not an American" and "a bientot" that he's actually French, a bit of context might help explain him. (Not justify--explain. As I already wrote, he's a jerk.). For example, there are no data on ethnicity or race collected in the French census, as a matter of law. The French collective psyche says "If you're French, it means you accept a set of values embodied in the French republic, and one of those values is that there is no such thing as a hyphenated French person."
I lived in France for a short while and heard this sort of thing expressed repeatedly.

Different history, different values, different conclusions starting from the same data. I don't happen to agree with the French attitude, and I think that attitude just exacerbates racial and ethnic tensions, but there it is.

But all that aside, Mazuel's rant was insulting.

Tersi said...

What would you have us do, Jeff, not identify anything as black?

Calling a thing black doesn't make it racism, per se, just as calling China Town, China Town, is not racism, and neither is labeling a thing Mexican, as in Mexican Restaurant, or Thai Restaurant, Chinese Restaurant, or French Restaurant, or German Restaurant, or any such ethnic reference.

And if Chinese Americans voted in a bloc for a particular candidate, would you call that racism, or Mexicans, or what have you?

Is it only racism when blacks do it? There're Mexican stations, radio, and TV. There're Mexican newspapers, magazines, and books.

Are you as opposed to them, as to us?

"Blacks viewing Republicans at Racist, yet...Democrats keep blacks in poverty with welfare...is RACISM."

Do you really believe this? Who's keeping whites in poverty, Mexicans in poverty, Native Americans in poverty?

I don't think it's the evil Democrats, but a system that's more exclusive than inclusive.

And you seem to be suggesting that the system be strengthened and supported.

"Seriously, we are all racist to some degree and anyone who denies this is a f'n liar."

I guess I'm an "f'n liar." I'm not a racist. I don't think that there's anything inherent in any race--their physical or mental characteristics, or aptitudes--that sets them apart from the others in ways that we can call superior.

"If my black brother and sister doesn't want to be treated different or called niger...then stop using the word and stop referring to whites as slave owners, white bread, whitey, "the man", cracker and all the other f'd up names I have heard."

I don't call whites the names you mentioned, Jeff. I'll make a deal with you. If you can stop whites from referring to blacks in derogatory terms (I won't recount them here.), then I'll make it my special mission in life to eradicate those negative terms used to identify white.

Honest!

"I've heard them, yet my family immigrated here in the 1900's and we had ZERO to do with slavery...yet, blacks trend towards sterotyping all whites as culpable for slavery."

Wrong again, Jeff. No black is blaming your family for slavery. We're saying this: Slavery and Jim Crow held blacks back, and permitted you and your family the opportunity to avail yourselves of the American dream at our expense.

Further, by virtue of you being white, you enjoy certain privileges that come to you automatically without you having to lift one finger.

I'm afraid, Jeff, that you're the victim of myths promulgated by whites for whites.
That, alone, gives you benefits and advantages unknown to most blacks, unless you're Tiger Woods.

You see, Jeff. Your "ONE MIDDLE AGE WHITE MAN'S OPINION" isn't your opinion at all. It represents what someone else told you was true, or what you accepted as truth without investigating on your own.

There's plenty of white racism out there, Jeff. Focus your attention on it, and its destruction, and blacks will come around, and put to rest the identification of anything as blacks.

We'll even call ourselves Americans, rather than African Americans.

You'll see!

uptownsteve said...

CF

Looks like I touched a nerve!

ROTFLMBAO!!!!!!

"Your problem is that you want BLACK PEOPLE FED.
You don't care WHERE the food comes from. You ONLY care about the end state of being FED."

You just pull the turds out of your rear end and post them, don't you?

You have NEVER heard me recommending or lobbying for handouts or special treatment for blacks.

As far as I'm concerned AA has run it's course and should be shelved.

At least in public college admissions.

I plead guilty about wanting black folks fed.

In the words of Bob Marley, "A hungry mob is an angry mob."

"The harm that YOUR WAY OF THINKING does to Black America is that it DAMAGES our CULTURAL COMPETENCY. Whereas there is a need to "WORK THROUGH THE PEOPLE" so that their aggregate actions are in support of their own PERMANENT INTERESTS."

Would you please stop this baseless bull$hit???

I live in a community where black folks own half-million dollar homes, bring home 6 figure annual salaries, send their kids off to prestigious colleges.

In other words a community that was unheard of 50 years ago and a community that would not exist today had the people you grin and buckdance for had their way.

As was pointed out to you on another blog

"As the black community continues to improve itself in iortually every area, including a 20% rise in the number of people college and hisgh school educated since 1990, a 55% rise in income level, the lowest crime rates since the 1970's..."

Yet you keep shrieking "Nuh Uh!"

At it's obviously because nobody listens to your sorry buckdancing ass except other sorry ass buckdancers.

Oh and of course the white racists who pat you on the head and say "Good Boy" and laugh as soon as you leave the room.

Realist said...

Drama Drama Drama, Different races always squabbling.
How about ending the drama?
The blacks in Africa don't want the whites there, apparently the whites in America dont treat the blacks good enough.
How about swapping the White Africans for the black Americans. Then we won't need blogs complaining about how whitey is treating the black man. Let's all go back to home base and start over.
"Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate, than that these people are to be free; nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion have drawn indelible lines of distinction between them." Thomas Jefferson

uptownsteve said...

If complaining negroes bother you, why do you come to their blogs?

Tersi said...

@Realist: "How about swapping the White Africans for the black Americans. Then we won't need blogs complaining about how whitey is treating the black man. Let's all go back to home base and start over."

Let me see if I have this right? You're proposing that black Americans return to Africa, and that white Africans return here to American soil.

And that's your idea of going "back to home base and start[ing] over?

Whites' home base is neither Africa nor the Americas, including the United States. This country was stolen from the indigenous people who resided here long before the coming of the Europeans.

Let all whites return to Europe, and I'll return to Africa. Until that day, you're asking for your white cake, and your white frosting, too.

"...nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion have drawn indelible lines of distinction between them." Thomas Jefferson

Often this quote is used to somehow demean blacks. It's not the "Nature, habit, opinion" of blacks that is the problem, but racist whites who have "drawn indelible lines of distinction between [us]."

Don't forget: Blacks didn't enslave whites. And it was the "nature, habit, opinion" of whites that blacks were an inferior race, and, therefore, could be treated as whites dictated, that, in part, made slavery possible, and palatable to the white psyche.

Anonymous said...

"Whites' home base is neither Africa nor the Americas, including the United States. This country was stolen from the indigenous people who resided here long before the coming of the Europeans."

"Stolen" is an understatement. They wiped out the Native Indians and then put what was left of them on reservations. The government still has yet to make financial restitutions to the Indians for the suffering they caused. I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

Meanwhile, these Whites enslaved Africans to pick cotton, farm and build their 'newly' stolen country for them. Simultaneously, these wonderful god-fearing people exuded words claiming that the foundation of their country was being built on the universal truth that "all men are created equal"...and every man has the right to be free: "give me LIBERTY or give me death!".

What group of humans could say that, yet do just the opposite, and still sleep at night?...... One with little conscience and no moral compass, and no sense of connection to the human race. In addition, they interpreted their faith from a perverted point of view, and consequently making themselves spiritually sick.

Everything they claimed to stand for, they behaved in an opposite manner. They proved to be dangerous barbaric animals, and could not be trusted.

And what are the descendents of those barbarians like today? Well, I'll leave it to you to figure out.

walpo

Montana said...

You real can’t take these uneducated UCSD white trailer trash anywhere. This is what happens when more than one of these guys puts their minds together.

Oh, where exactly was a speech going on? Thats right, no where, but keep plucking that chicken.

Realist said...

@Tersi:
You replied in part "Whites' home base is neither Africa nor the Americas, including the United States. This country was stolen from the indigenous people who resided here long before the coming of the Europeans."

The United States of America was founded by white Christian men. Not one of the founding fathers was melanin enhanced. Whether or not it was stolen from another race is irrelevant in the white/black equation.

As far as slavery goes, historically all races enslaved other people,we cannot judge those men by todays standards, however it was white Christian men who ended slavery. Thomas Jefferson’s statement in not so much demeaning as it’s prophetic; this man knew 200 years that black and white would not live together peacefully.

Racial groups will never live in harmony, we can only mitigate our differences while self segregating as we currently do.

Realist said...

@anonymous said in part
“What group of humans could say that, yet do just the opposite, and still sleep at night?...... One with little conscience and no moral compass, and no sense of connection to the human race. …They proved to be dangerous barbaric animals, and could not be trusted. And what are the descendents of those barbarians like today? Well, I'll leave it to you to figure out.”

The white race is the only race that doesn’t solely act in its own interests; they work even to their own detriment work against their own interests to be “fair”.

That’s how 600,000 slaves grew to a population of over 40 million today.

How many billions of dollars were and are spent to help the black man? Food Stamps, Section 8, Head Start, Affirmative Action,Racial Quotas,white anti-racists….just to name a few.

If the white man is as barbaric and without a moral compass as you say, you wouldn’t be here to complain.

The white man couldn’t pay blacks to leave this white dominated society to go live with his “fair” minded brothers in Africa.

Tersi said...

@Realist: "The United States of America was founded by white Christian men. Not one of the founding fathers was melanin enhanced."

If you wish to speak at that level of precision, I'll accommodate you.

North America, as it is described by white Europeans, was taken from the indigenous people living on this part of the continent.

They were eliminated in a holocaust to rival that of Hitler's Germany. This systematic destruction of Natives allowed white interlopers to establish what they referred to as the United States on part of the land they had taken.

"The United States of America was founded by white Christian men."

I'd let this pass, but since you're keen on precision, I won't.

You're partially right. Here's the whole of it:

"Lambert (2003) has examined the religious affiliations and beliefs of the Founders. Some of the 1787 delegates had no affiliation. The others were Protestants except for three Roman Catholics: C. Carroll, D. Carroll, and Fitzsimons. Among the Protestant delegates to the Constitutional Convention, 28 were Church of England (Episcopalian, after the Revolutionary War was won), eight were Presbyterians, seven were Congregationalists, two were Lutherans, two were Dutch Reformed, and two were Methodists, the total number being 49. Some of the more prominent Founding Fathers were anti-clerical or vocal about their opposition to organized religion, such as Thomas Jefferson[12][13] (who created the "Jefferson Bible"), and Benjamin Franklin[14]. However, other notable founders, such as Patrick Henry, were strong proponents of traditional religion. Several of the Founding Fathers considered themselves to be deists or held beliefs very similar to that of deists." [Wikipedia]

"As far as slavery goes, historically all races enslaved other people...."

True. But many historians see slavery in the United States as peculiarly harsh, and unequal in its brutality, when compared to other slave systems.

"however it was white Christian men who ended slavery."

After a bloody civil war: Christians fighting Christians. It's not that they had a "Come to Jesus Moment," where they suddenly realized that slavery was in opposition to their Christian beliefs, and values.

"Thomas Jefferson’s statement in not so much demeaning as it’s prophetic; this man knew 200 years that black and white would not live together peacefully."

Jefferson, no doubt, understood the white heart, and realized that whites, who once own black slaves, and held them in submission, and as inferiors, were never going to afford to blacks a status equal to that of whites.

And it took years to change that mindset, and we still see vestiges of it now.

Yet, peace is coming. I hope you're prepared for it. Whites will not always remain in the majority here. By 2050 or less, whites will be in the minority, and the minorities will be the majority.

Oh, we will live in harmony. The races are blending, and old wounds will be a thing of the past, because no racial group will be able to set itself above the other.

Blacks in this country have always been willing to integrate, and embrace white society. It's been whites who have fought this trend.

Tersi said...

@Realist: "The white race is the only race that doesn’t solely act in its own interests; they work even to their own detriment work against their own interests to be “fair”.

"That’s how 600,000 slaves grew to a population of over 40 million today."

You call that fair? To end slavery, and allow blacks to continue to multiply and provide cheap labor to the white masses, using a system down South such as separate but equal, which damn well was separate, but never equal.

Are you forgetting that after slavery, we didn't all of sudden find ourselves in the lap of luxury, but continued to be nominal slaves, sharecropping white folks' land, cleaning up after them, and doing all the menial labor that they could hire us to do, with the lowest of compensations.

"How many billions of dollars were and are spent to help the black man? Food Stamps, Section 8, Head Start, Affirmative Action,Racial Quotas,white anti-racists….just to name a few."

That statement is, I'm afraid, delusional. I can't think of any other term to describe it.

This wonderful white largess doesn't just benefit blacks. Are not whites receiving food stamps, Section 8, Head start?

And Affirmative action. It didn't just benefit blacks, as you seem to think: White women were one the biggest recipients of Affirmative Action, as well as Mexican Americans, and Asian Americans, and those physically challenged.

And consider this: Not all blacks are on welfare, as your statement seem to suggest.

We pay taxes, too. A great deal of the money that's paid out to various recipients, regardless of color, are from taxes that blacks pay.

Yet, out contribution to the pool is not acknowledged. You suggest that those billions came from whites, and whites alone.

"If the white man is as barbaric and without a moral compass as you say, you wouldn’t be here to complain.

The white man couldn’t pay blacks to leave this white dominated society to go live with his “fair” minded brothers in Africa."

Not all white men are barbaric, and without a moral compass. On that I'll agree. I've known many white men and women who were upstanding, and treated me as an equal, and not beneath them.

But I have met many who'd just as soon have me in chains, and working the land.

And for the record: It was whites who screwed up this society. Why don't we pay you to go back to Europe?

Were whites to repay those whose land this was, and all its natural resources, which, for years, was sent back to Europe, and later used to build a materially-rich American society, and to repay those blacks whose labor it was upon which the country was built, no amount of welfare would suffice, and no amount of payment would eliminate your indebtedness.

The only "fair" thing, would be for you to return from whence you came.

But, not to worry, time and chance will remedy that, as whites continue to disappear from this nation, supplanted by people of color.

But if you decide to leave sooner, than later, your "fair minded" brothers in Europe will understand, and welcome you with open arms.

Anonymous said...

Realist, "The white man couldn’t pay blacks to leave this white dominated society to go live with his “fair” minded brothers in Africa."

Hell, you haven't even paid the Native Indians the money you Whites promised. Am I to assume you are going to pay Blacks to go back to Africa?

Ok. Make an offer. If it is a good generous and "fair" offer, we might consider taking it.

But we want the money up front cuz we know your word sucks.

Realist said...

“North America, as it is described by white Europeans, was taken from the indigenous people living on this part of the continent.

They were eliminated in a holocaust to rival that of Hitler's Germany. This systematic destruction of Natives allowed white interlopers to establish what they referred to as the United States on part of the land they had taken”.
You’re stuck on white people suck because my ancestors stole land from the Indians. As I’ve said before it’s irrelevant to the black/white equation.
Ok we were bad, we stole from the Indians and gave them casinos. The world is a brutal place, thankfully a group of white guys got together and made a Constitution and Bill of Rights.
If you want to talk about holocausts, let’s get a little more recent action from your ancestral side of the world.
Liberia, war criminal Charles Taylor, how many did he kill, his punk son Jr. educated in America, how many did he kill, in the same country, did you see Samuel Doe getting his ears chopped off. Robert Mugabe, how man Ndele tribesman did he kill est. (20-30k). Somalia, warring gangs rule the land. Haiti, 200 years of black rule, nothing but chaos.

I could go on but I think you get the drift. How many black countries went to Haiti to help out?
The only coherent black societies come from those who have had the benefit of colonization by white men. Even then once they are turned over to black rule, the quality of life drops dramatically, Rhodesia, the bread basket of Africa, now needs food handouts from white countries to feed its people.
South Africa is well on its way to chaos after 16 years of black rule.
A little closer to home, look at liberal fantasy cities run by blacks. Detroit, Philadelphia, Newark, Camden, Baltimore, St. Louis ,Atlanta, DC nightmares each and every one. What do they all have in common?
Crime ridden dysfunctional corrupt governments, just like Africa where a few blacks get rich and rest live in third world conditions despite the white mans handouts.

“How many billions of dollars were and are spent to help the black man? Food Stamps, Section 8, Head Start, Affirmative Action,Racial Quotas,white anti-racists….just to name a few."
@Tersi said:

That statement is, I'm afraid, delusional. I can't think of any other term to describe it.

That’s, funny, Ok I’m delusional for thinking black Americans disproportionally use social services overwhelming funded by white taxpayers (yes blacks pay to, but whites pay the lion share). Google comrade Sharon Jasper, New Orleans. Don’t even say there’s not thousands just like her.

You are correct in that whites will soon be a minority. Our population is declining, black population is expected to be the same. US will be dominated by Mexicans. Enjoy Northern Mexico in a few years. Maybe they will give the black man his due.

The problem @Tersi is black behavior and blame shifting. Maybe Dr. Huxtable was right.

Tersi said...

@Realist [1]

Realist, you're nothing of the sort. You really need to go back and revisit your first post.

Wasn't it you who used a whole post to tell black how racist they were, simply by using the word black before a number of black institutions, as though somehow that usage implies that we're as "racist" as whites.

Not us! Whites are the one with a lock on racism in this country. You can give us lessons in how to do it, and how to refine our technique.

Conveniently, you have shifted the argument to grandstand, and to point to black behavior, as a way to excuse white behavior.

Keep this in mind: Blacks didn't invade Europe, and hold the people their in virtual slavery, nor did blacks intrude upon the cultures of India, Japan, or China.

Rapacious whites did that.

Your footprints in those places leaves you culpable for a large part of the aftermath.

You can find solace in revisionist history, and in the white mythology that you put forth here, but nothing, nothing, will efface those crimes against humanity that give whites the social advantage that they now enjoy.

And your efforts to create some kind of moral equivalence, continues to give you a black eye. Your vision was already limited, but now you've joined ranks with the kingdom of the blind.

"That’s, funny, Ok I’m delusional for thinking black Americans disproportionally use social services overwhelming funded by white taxpayers (yes blacks pay to, but whites pay the lion share...."

To this extent. The percentage point difference between whites and blacks flucuates, with blacks edging out whites. Per capita, rather than percentage of population, there're still more whites benefiting from welfare, than blacks.

What's up with that!

In what is touted as the greatest nation in the world, the principal population, whites, are recipients of a vast amount of welfare, the very group that has been a protected class for year, with blacks purposely held back to facilitate their lock on the American dream.

"Ok we were bad, we stole from the Indians and gave them casinos."

More mythology. Not all Native Americans benefit from casinos, and those that do, mainly have to show tribal affiliation, and, many times, that affiliation is restricted to those who have sufficient blood connection to the tribe.

Some Native Americans are struggling painfully during this harsh winter, merely to survive, with the federal government dragging its feet to keep them alive, that is, not dying from hunger and cold.

That's the reality on the ground. Not convenient mythology to allow you sleep warm, well-fed, and comfortable tonight.

"You’re stuck on white people suck because my ancestors stole land from the Indians. As I’ve said before it’s irrelevant to the black/white equation."

You wish. It's part and parcel of the problem. It has everything to do with what you describe as the "black/white equation."

White indifference towards Native Americans spill over into white indifference of blacks. There're reasons why unemployment among Native American and blacks is so high.

And you get to sweep all that under the rug with a few flourishing words, "It's all there fault."

I say, give the land back to Native Americans, or pay them the going rate for it.

Tersi said...

@Realist [2]

But we both know, white's will never do that. Your ancestors stole it, why must you be made to pay.

You pay, because you're still exploiting the land you stole.

"If you want to talk about holocausts, let’s get a little more recent action from your ancestral side of the world...."

No let's stay with this side of the world. You see, white's are still at it. How many hundreds of thousands of Iraqis did Bush's war decimate?

Iraq, as much as we wanted to justify our attack by insisting they attacked us, did not attack us, and was a soverign country.

We're still killing Taliban, and Afghans, and they didn't attack us, either.

What gives us the right to wage war against the innoncent, and against those who didn't attack us.

When you get your house in order, then we'll talk about African atrocities.

"How many black countries went to Haiti to help out?"

One, for sure, and others have pledged monies amid their own economic difficulties:

http://www.america.gov/st/develop-english/2010/January/20100121171457WCyeroC0.459953.html

You're still attempting to show whites in this glorious, magnanimous light, while ignoring the harm they perpetrate against humanity.

We can keep this up for hours, but it won't change the facts.

"The only coherent black societies come from those who have had the benefit of colonization by white men."

More mythology. Colonization left in its wake a great deal of human misery. That misery persists to this day.

Native Americans in this country continue to struggle, as a result of coming up against your paternalistic colonization. I'm sure if you'll ask them if they're better off because of the coming of whites, you'll get a resounding, "You betcha!"

"US will be dominated by Mexicans. Enjoy Northern Mexico in a few years. Maybe they will give the black man his due.

"The problem @Tersi is black behavior and blame shifting. Maybe Dr. Huxtable was right."

Mexicans can't treat us any worse than whites. We're pretty much prepared for anything, anyone, has to offer.

We'll survive. But I'm not sure about whites. They'll have to go along to get along, and that's not your way.

You want to be on top, calling the shots, having it your way. I don't think many of you will be able to handle it.

Blacks, on the other hand, we've had to fight for the American dream (fairness and justice), it wasn't given to us.

Christians can be pretty damn unchristian, and unholy, when it comes to power, money, and stumping on those ethnic others that get in their way.

You're still setting up whites as some paragon of righteousness, and virtue, after all I've revealed here?

Self-deception suits you and your kind. You can hide behind the most egregious acts, and call it a blessing for mankind.

Why in the hell would I want to shift the blame? Why would I want to play that game?

That's the game that whites have perfected. For that reason alone, I don't play.

And so you know: There is no Dr. Huxtable. He doesn't exist. Keep your head in the real world. Don't find comfort in some imaginary person from a television sitcom.

Race Traitoress said...

@Tersi--

I've been following this discussion and just wanted to give you big ups for the effort you're putting into educating this most recent apologist. I admire your tenacity and support your message. You're a better woman than I.

word verification: VOTED

lolz--sure did

Tersi said...

Race Traitoress said...
"@Tersi--

I've been following this discussion and just wanted to give you big ups for the effort you're putting into educating this most recent apologist."

Thanks, Race Traitoress. These back channel discussions, as I call them, are usually witnessed by only a few. Those who have moved on, rarely look back.

Realist said...

Race Traitoress said...
@Tersi--

"I've been following this discussion and just wanted to give you big ups for the effort you're putting into educating this most recent apologist. I admire your tenacity and support your message. You're a better woman than I."

Who are you calling an apologist? I'm not apologizing for anything. I like being white. I like living with people who are like myself. My race has contributed more to the advancement of civilization and mankind than any other race. I treat other people as they treat me, regardless of race.

You on the otherhand appear to be a white anti-racist. So I'll let you and your brethren do the apologizing. It's not natural to hate yourself and your race. You obviously have a mental illness. I feel sorry for you.

You are correct in that Tersi is a better woman than you. I can respect someone who stands up for themselves and their race.

Tersi, we are just going to have to agree to disagree. Im out. Peace.

Anonymous said...

Realist, "Who are you calling an apologist? I'm not apologizing for anything. I like being white. I like living with people who are like myself. My race has contributed more to the advancement of civilization and mankind than any other race. I treat other people as they treat me, regardless of race.

You on the otherhand appear to be a white anti-racist. So I'll let you and your brethren do the apologizing. It's not natural to hate yourself and your race. You obviously have a mental illness. I feel sorry for you."

Thanks Realist. I get so sick of RT's obnoxious self-hating comments of Whites. I believe RT is the white uncle tom of the caucasian race. What a pity.

Race Traitoress said...

@Realist

Who are you calling an apologist? I'm not apologizing for anything.

apologist: a person who argues to defend or justify some policy or institution. synonym: vindicator, justifier

You on the otherhand appear to be a white anti-racist.

Pretty much.

It's not natural to hate yourself and your race. You obviously have a mental illness.

Whoa! Talk about a non sequitur. If I'm anti-racist that means I hate myself and "my race"? AND I have a mental illness?

I hate racism. I love people, including myself. I abhor bigotry, delusions of supremacy, oppression, and judgmental fools like yourself.

Dragon Horse said...

The organizer of the part was black...lol

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=126229

He didn't seem to think it was racist. His name is:

"Jiggaboo Jones"

Seriously.

John said...

More from UC San Diego:

Things went from awful to unacceptable...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/feb/27/noose-stokes-racial-anger-at-ucsd/

Marbles said...

I don't know if anyone's still reading these, but whatever.

I'm white, and the answer to your question is "no." When I see a black person walking down the street that does not display any visible signs of being the "type" described in that screed, I do not see the stereotype because I have not been given a REASON to see it.

Fairly or unfairly, this can change the instant I hear "n****" pop out of the person's mouth. My immediate gut reaction is to think they're ignorant. A peaceable looking person can surprise you by behaving like an arrested-development child. When I see the stereotypical behavior such as that described above, I assure you that it does the opposite of inspire smugness or make me laugh. Instead it depresses the living *%#! out of me. Despite what some believe, it is NOT a universal given that whites love to build themselves up at the expense of black dysfunction.

The way someone dresses, speaks or walks (that last one can speak volumes), is how all people form snap judgments. That's just the way it is. But a snap judgment of a black man wearing a collared shirt and carrying some folders under his arm does not invoke the same snap judgment as a swaggering hothead dressed in gravity-defying rags strutting down the street with a "fuck you" scowl etched into his face. The premise on its face is absurd.

Marbles said...

I read the entire thread. The reality is, discussions like these are complicated by the fact that too many (NOT all) participants are absolutists.

THERE ARE TOO MANY ABSOLUTISTS, PERIOD.

That goes for race, politics, religion----the whole nine yards.

The opinions here come from every possible direction and from both sides of the color line. Almost everyone said something I agree with, and almost everyone said something I disagree with. Even certain people whose viewpoints I find toxic brought up things I see as simple truths. And when I say everyone, I mean everyone---white and black.

I make no claims to enlightenment. A white, half-Jewish American, I was born into this racial waltz the same as everyone else was, and it's impossible to separate one's own views from the the culture that shaped them.
But my attempts to step back and try to see things as objectively I can--to the degree that it's possible for any person to do that at all---leads me to say that all the viewpoints here are differing mixtures of profound and flawed. All of us are limited by our life experiences and the resultant preconceptions, and it really shows in discussions like these.

Since it's plain fact that no one has a monopoly on truth, it follows that none of our opinions on this issue cover the whole story. The problem is that too many of us refuse to take the obvious cue from this fact, and open ourselves up to other people's experiences.

Some might think what I'm saying sounds paternalistic and holier-than-thou, and I apologize for that. While I have trouble expressing my opinions in a different tone, I have no interest in projecting a holier-than-thou attitude. I simply don't know any other way to say that absolutism on all sides of an issue is what trips up any steps people take towards goddamn understanding one another.

Anonymous said...

I know this is a late addition to the posts, but you do know it was a BLACK MAN who put on the party? His name is Jigaboo Jones. So a black man in his 30's encourages white college students to dress up as ghetto black people. Why isn't the black man who threw the party being held accountable

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGfFSZ2kcRg&feature=related


A link to the party's ORGANIZER above

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