The dog days of summer aren't quite here yet, but a few stories today have me thinking about dogs.
The first one involves his O ness and his lack of a best friend-the four- legged kind that every man should have. Apparently when you are president of these divided states it helps to have a pet. It seems that Obama's black side is winning the battle on whether to have a pet or not and that's not a good thing. He got a dog for Sasha and Malia, but now, apparently, he might need to get one for himself.
Diana C. Mutz, the Samuel A. Stouffer Professor of Political Science at Penn, studied the electoral appeal of Barack Obama in the fall, crunching a wealth of voter data from the 2008 campaign, and came to a simple, surprising, but unshakable conclusion:
Dude could have used a dog.
Turns out all that sensitive talk about selecting the right sort of pooch for daughters Malia and Sasha (rescue or pup? what's good with allergies?) reinforced the qualities that Mutz suspects cooled some voters to his candidacy.
Instead of making Obama seem pet-friendly, focus on his canine considerations underscored the fact that the presidential contender did not have a dog - or any animal at home.
And in this country, pets and politics have long gone hand in hand, paw, or claw.
FDR had Fala. Nixon had Checkers. LBJ had those beagles he dangled by the ears.
Obama turns out to be the first petless person elected president in our nation's history, according to Mutz's research. (Chester Alan Arthur, the 21st president, was similarly petless, but he wasn't elected; he rose to his position after James Garfield was shot.)" [story]
Dude could have used a dog.
Turns out all that sensitive talk about selecting the right sort of pooch for daughters Malia and Sasha (rescue or pup? what's good with allergies?) reinforced the qualities that Mutz suspects cooled some voters to his candidacy.
Instead of making Obama seem pet-friendly, focus on his canine considerations underscored the fact that the presidential contender did not have a dog - or any animal at home.
And in this country, pets and politics have long gone hand in hand, paw, or claw.
FDR had Fala. Nixon had Checkers. LBJ had those beagles he dangled by the ears.
Obama turns out to be the first petless person elected president in our nation's history, according to Mutz's research. (Chester Alan Arthur, the 21st president, was similarly petless, but he wasn't elected; he rose to his position after James Garfield was shot.)" [story]
My friend Daniel Rubin might have really stumbled unto something here. It's all about the pets.
O man if not a dog, may I suggest a parrot? Just make sure you keep him in the room with your top advisers when you are not around. You might want to find out later what they said behind your back.
The other dog story involves a dog who has probably been hanging around the tea party folks too long. Did you know that dogs can be trained to be racist? I did. I saw that movie back in the day. Still, it's not the poor dog's fault. The poor animal can only do what he is trained to do. I blame the owners. But honestly, the very thought of a racist dog is almost laughable. As if us racism chasers don't have enough to worry about with humans. Besides, I honestly thought that dogs couldn't see colors. Oh well, maybe some dogie expert reading this can help me with that one.
"Let's forget for a second that the dog was doing his job (barking at an intruder) and look at some science. Most animal behaviorists agree that dogs can be taught to react against sets of individuals. A dog could also learn to dislike individuals if they suffered some trauma by members of a group at an early age.
The dogs' vision can also play a role. Though dogs can see colors, they do so with far less sharpness than humans. I've read a report where a dog's eyesight had deteriorated to the point that dark moving objects appeared to be big scary moving blobs. Jeeze! I would bark at that too.So, yes, a dog can react negatively to certain people. But I refuse to call a dog racist." [ story]
Me too. It should be the other way around.
Finally, speaking of dogs; did you see the latest comment from Newt?
"..Mr. Obama is "the most radical president in American history," Gingrich said. "He has said, 'I run a machine, I own Washington, and there is nothing you can do about it.'"
"What we need is a president, not an athlete," Gingrich said during a question and answer period after his speech. He added: "Shooting three point shots may be clever, but it doesn't put anybody to work." [story]
"What we need is a president, not an athlete," Gingrich said during a question and answer period after his speech. He added: "Shooting three point shots may be clever, but it doesn't put anybody to work." [story]
Translated: we need a real president not a black man pretending to be a president. You know all those black people are good athletes. But that's all they are; athletes.
77 comments:
"..Mr. Obama is "the most radical president in American history," Gingrich said. "He has said, 'I run a machine, I own Washington, and there is nothing you can do about it.'"
If Obama said what Newt claims, it is radical and sounds like some athlete or coach of an athletic team would say. It's quite arrogant and offensive.
I'm gonna comment on the sidebar about Central HS. It's a Magnet School now and a good one. Here's hoping for the day when public schools are all Magnet or Charter.
szpork
All dogs hate black people.
We do need a real president, not a bumbling fool pretending to be president.
And Barack Obama is not a good athlete. He sucks at basketball, and he is the most pathetic golfer this side of Charles Barkley. His own wife could kick his ass, and I'll bet her balls are bigger.
What's happened to the quality of your comment section? Honestly: of late, I've been blown away by the ignorant and stupid statements here. Folks are dropping off, that is, the more thoughtful ones. I miss them; I dislike having to wade through ignorance.
As for the racist Republicans -- and similarly-acting Democratic Party members -- these dog whistles are supposed to contain HIDDEN messages. These folks are so ugly, desperate, out-classed, and vile? They refuse to hide the race-baiting. An "athlete," he says. With half his brain tied behind his back, said "athlete" whipped a roomful of Republican ass. One Black President Obama against a room filled with white, racist haters and they couldn't force President Obama's brain to expend even one synapse on thwarting their two-dimensional, soundbite, disingenuous stupidity. FUCK NEWT'S HAS-BEEN MORBIDLY OBESE ASS. And that more "responsible" Republicans won't call these folks out is not good for White America; trust. But, it seems like they couldn't care less. I suspect that white privilege so powerful an intoxicant that Newt's peers won't DARE call him (or the others like him). All I will say in this public space is "So noted."
"I suspect that white privilege so powerful an intoxicant that Newt's peers won't DARE call him (or the others like him). All I will say in this public space is "So noted."
Well, white priviledge is part of the identity of Whites. Why would any white person be upset, let alone feel any pain or outrage over what Newt has said? They are not Black.
White privledge says, "I am better than POC, esp. Blacks". And Republicans aren't the only class of Whites who have that in their bones. EVERY WHITE does. Republicans just happen to voice it more.
Field,
I have a theory about Newt G. and Dick Cheney, with those names, they grew up in the days that they were teased silly about their monikers and it made them into what they are today.........
Aloha from Makaii
Hey folks...Obama is a black president is he not? Where is the racism when a black man can get elected to this once great office without even adequate proof of citizenship?Many white people (regretably me as well) voted for him without really looking at who the man is.He now scares the crap out of me as I learn about his Acorn ties,mulsim pandering,alienating our allies,and generally rewarding the cronies that funded his power while appointing "Czars" that only answer to him, and trampling the constitution.I am sick of hearing about the "Poor black" getting discriminated against when he is caught in a crime.Remember OJ Simpson?How about mayor Barry of DC after he got caught in a motel smoking crack with a hooker? Yeah! it was always the racism card! ...and Barry even got re-elected WTF? This is the kind of crap that lowers the bar on blacks.And now socialist liberals are trying to label those that oppose them .I say to you READ..QUESTION! ..LOOK AT FACTS! not what some hate pimps are feeding you.We are all americans.Be proud!
First off, Anony @ 1:13AM is not a credit to his race. That is the most idiotic I-Voted-For-Obama-Before-I-Became-A-Teabagger load of crap that I've ever read.
Second, Newt does well in the GOP race before they actually start picking candidates. He is a stalking horse, not a serious contender IMHO. The fact that Newt is taken seriously is puzzling, but then, this is 'Murka.
You know I had to respond to Anonymous 1:13 posts because it looks like he is a good example of an person who has overdosed off of lies and BS that Fox News spits out on a daily basis and is uninformed.
First, O.J. was an athlete, not a political figure. So, that is like comparing apples to oranges.
Second, there is no such thing as a race card and the term was made up by a racist who wanted to overturn Affirmative Action.
Third, yeah, Obama got elected President, but it wasn't exactly an overwhelming number of whites that voted for him. Not to mention, he had to peel his lips back and show all of his teeth, and act like he was immune to all of the racist insults, derogatory insults aimed at his family and him as well. In addition, he had to go through being practically dehumanized, humiliated, and degradation and take the so-call high road while being put through all of that in order to keep those few whites that voted for him happy. Furthermore, they cheated all throughout the election process,changed the number of electorates needed, and he had to kiss Hillaries ass in the process over some made up BS. In addition, they invaded his church, twisted, lied, and deceived people about what Reverend Wright said with edited and doctored sound bites.
ACORN was investigated and found not guilty after the fake pimp who by the way did not go in ACORN dressed like a pimp, nor did his girlfriend who played the so-called hoe, and they doctored and edited the tapes too. None of it happened and caused an organization that was innocent that helped poor people to be dismantled and unfunded behind straight up lies and deception. Evidently, you don't read too many newspapers or watch anything other Fox We Make It Up News.
What happened to Marion Barry does not lower the standard on blacks as whole, it affected him and him only. Black folks are not one big lump of sugar, we're individuals just like any other group of people, and we have our good and bad just like any other group of people. How would you feel if all white folks were lumped together as one everytime one did something wrong? Nevermind, because I know that might be a little too complex for you to figure out in your little narrow-minded way of thinking.
President Obama was born right here in America in Hawaii, you know that Island that the USA went over to and took it upon themselves to colonize like they do everywhere else they go. The USA can't help it though, they love stealing countries that don't belong to them it is an inherited trait.
The person that needs to read, Question, and look at facts is you, but you are so blind you cannot fathom that. Oh no, not you a person who has demonstrated by their post that chew up and swallow BS and lies as if you've been given some expensive imported chocolates.
Hate pimps are Beck, Hannity, Palin, Newt, and the rest of those racist ass folks that can't stand seeing a black man accomplish what they couldn't. Yeah, we all Americans, but the teaparty folks, rightwing folks, and racist whites folks don't seem to think so, because they've gotten too comfortable with white privilege and think that all other citizens should worship their image.
President Obama had to bite his tongue to please those few white folks that did vote for him, but I don't. What really makes it so assinine is the fact that they actually had the nerve to ask why didn't he fight back after daring him to speak up and fight back so as not to hurt their sensibilities.
Field:
"we need a real president not a black man pretending to be a president. You know all those black people are good athletes. But that's all they are; athletes"
You made me think about something I had forgot regarding racist whites attitudes towards black men about with that statement.
Well let's see, this BLACK ATHLETE, put a Hispanic Women on the SUPREME COURT! WHITE MEN tried to STOP it, but, they were to WEAK to STOP it! these Old White men let a Young Black man, beat them at their own game! and they have been playing the game for over FOUR HUNDRED YEAR'S!
Let's face it people, NEWT and the rest are Complexed! the President has out smarted them at every turn, so they have no other choice, but, to call him RADICAL, is that a bad name to call your President? well Yes and No.
A Black President has no other choice, but, to be RADICAL, he know's he is dealing with Hard Core Seasoned Amoral Radical's, he is trampling all over their Territory! and they want him to go AWAY!
ANON 12:16 it won't WORK, you can try to TEAR DOWN the President's character, but, that won't work, you see, you want to make him look as if he is a Illiterate Black man, well, NOT SO! he is so above NEWT and the rest of you SICK RACIST, until I fell SORRY for YALL!
The President and Pathetic doe's not go hand and hand, your opinion of the President is Pathetic! it show's your inner Turmoil as a White man, what it must be like, to see your POWER slipping away day by day! and why, well, you didn't play the game fair, you cheated along the way, you made some pretty Bad move's, and now look, you are on the Side Line's!
Field, we have a lot of RABID DOG'S running astray, and they are behaving like Animal's!
ISEEISEE
They loathe that a Black man is in the White House.
That he's married to an obviously Black woman.
That he loves said Black woman and is a good husband and father, while they are the party of Ensign, Vitter, Craig and 3-times married Newt himself.
That his children are well-mannered and poised, while Caribou Barbie has one that joined the Army to avoid jail; another is a teen-aged mother dropout, and a third is vandalizing private property.
They chide The President with that teleprompter bullshyt, and he stepped onto their territory for 2 hours and ate them up and spit them out...while Caribou Barbie is scribbling on her damn hand.
She is White Privilege personified, because nobody Black who was that fucking stupid and ignorant would EVER be taken seriously.
THEY think that Black folks are gonna just ' turn the other cheek' as they ' get their country back'.
Fuck that shyt.
Them turn the cheek Negroes went out of style LAST CENTURY.
BTW, had he spoke up, more than likely, they would have been quick to label him a racist because it is okay in their eyesight to insult, degrade, and humiliate a black person, but heaven forbid if that black person speaks up for their dignity. Glad it was him and not me. I refuse to let another human being degrade and humiliate me.
The truth will set you free, but the problem is racist white folks still haven't learned how to accept it. Although, whether you want to hear it or not, you've come to the right place with that stale, tired, and worn out Fox We Make It Up Bulldung!
Rikyrah is at it again! Yeah! Heh! Granny and Rikyrah, I have enjoyed reading your perspectives:)
Rikyrah there are some Blacks who are taken seriously who arguably may be as incompetent as Mdm Palin, Rev Peterson comes to mind...
@ et al:
I cannot agree that this anon (the obviously jealous and green with envy one) is a racist.
Racism is defined as having POWER over a person/group of another race with the ability to stop them from achieving, gaining or garnering something...such as employment, housing, education etc.
I have known many racists in my time and they have usually had a little more intellectual capacity. Most racists are educated and have wealth. Racists are in positions of power and authority. This anon seems to be just another small minded, unenlightened, never been anywhere, or seen anything probably poor white person with serious biases (also known as a bigot).
Bigots have no power and are unable to control much of anything including their thoughts and what comes out of their mouths. A perfect example of a modern day bigot is glen beck (and this anon).
Bigots are controlled by white power structures and made to be kept in their line of thinking by the belief that the color of their skin somehow makes them better.
A very smart trick used by white racists that care less about their "fellow" white brothers. True racists use this trick to keep them poor and divisive. The true racist uses this trick on them knowing their white skin gives them no privilege at all, except poverty (money and mind).
I really don't think this anon even has enough power to discriminate
...you have to have some authority to even be able to do that.
Let's try not to give people more than what they have earned. This anon certainly has earned the title of a bigot...however a racist? I think that's too far out of his/her league. Racists are majors...bigots are minors ;)
Happy Sunday!
Peace.
~agape2010~
And...
About white skin privilege...that does not exist any more and that's why there is such turmoil in this country.
If you're white and you weren't privvy to getting in on the biggest transfer of wealth (during the 2nd W term) you have absolutely no white skin privilege.
White skin privilege is metered out in wealth.
And....@FN:
Did you read that revenues went up 47% day one of the Masters?...and one of the golfers (white) lost weight just to look good on TV next to Woods..now THAT'S some kind of skin privilege wouldn't you say...:)
Peace
~agape2010~
"All dogs hate black people."
Can you blame them? :)
Granny,that "apples and oranges statement is on point. But then, isn't that one of the sterotypes we have to live with? A person who commented above thought he was dissing his O ness, yet he made our point for us: For the most part Obama sucks as an athlete ("W" was probably more of an athlete) yet this clown says we don't need an athlete as a president. Do the wingnuts and bigots even see the irony of that statement?
"What's happened to the quality of your comment section? Honestly: of late, I've been blown away by the ignorant and stupid statements here. Folks are dropping off, that is, the more thoughtful ones. I miss them; I dislike having to wade through ignorance."
Professor, as you can tell from the comments above, some are still here. Just stick around and add to that number. We are outnumbered far too often of late.
But hey, what can I tell you? As Gregory said: This is "Murka".
Bigots are controlled by white power structures and made to be kept in their line of thinking by the belief that the color of their skin somehow makes them better.
"A very smart trick used by white racists that care less about their "fellow" white brothers. True racists use this trick to keep them poor and divisive. The true racist uses this trick on them knowing their white skin gives them no privilege at all, except poverty (money and mind)."
And speaking of "quality comments"...
Hey, did ya miss me? I'm Back...Spent a few weeks in eastern Germany, you know, the Homeland...
It's gotta be eatin you N-words up...First N-word President, and he's the Whitest Commander in Chief since Bush the Elder...
He lets Biden drop the F-bomb on national TV??? Dude needs to man up and spit out some "Ho's" "Mo-Fos" and "Bee-Otches"...
As for dogs, I'm thinkin one of Michael Vicks "Rescues" a mean and scarred Pit Bull with one eye named "Sylvester" but if you call him anything but "Sly" he'll bite you a new asshole...
Now if he'd just bitchslap that Hilary Clinton I might consider votin for him in O-12....
bis spater, I mean, later,
Frank
OK, I know the PitBull thing won't make it past the ball, I mean, Image Polishers...
How bout a nice Schaeferhund with a non menacing name......
"Blondi"?????
THAT'LL get that Netanyahu prick pissed...
Frank
[quote]They loathe that a Black man is in the White House.
That he's married to an obviously Black woman.
That he loves said Black woman and is a good husband and father, while they are the party of Ensign, Vitter, Craig and 3-times married Newt himself.
That his children are well-mannered and poised, while Caribou Barbie has one that joined the Army to avoid jail; another is a teen-aged mother dropout, and a third is vandalizing private property. [/quote]
Rikyrah:
You are a near perfect model of a person who executes PORTRAIT WORSHIP.
You (and Filled Negro), experiencing massive disappointment with the attainment of the PERMANENT INTERESTS that you HAD HOPED the advancement of the machine that you support would bring to your community, instead focus upon YOUR ENEMIES.
No longer do you focus on the question "Did this MACHINE bring me safety in my community that they now run?" you instead suggest - "IF THE ENEMY GOT BACK INTO POWER, BLACKS WOULD BE LYNCHED".
With schools "Did my schools improve after WE WON" changes into "White Republicans don't want Negroes to be educated. Don't let them back in".
With economics "Are the people in my community prospering with favorable people running it?" turns into "Those Whiteys will NEVER allow a Black man to be Treasury Secretary and run the money of the nation".
At what point do the both of you realize that when you LOOK CLOSER TO HOME - much that you have been lobbying for through your intermediate source HAS NOT COME TRUE.
In fact the MORE YOU WIN in the areas that you have focused upon - the more our community LOSES.
HOW BLACK PEOPLE ARE HARMED IN 'NON-RACIST EVENTS' THAT AREN'T COVERED ON THE FILLED-NEGRO PROPAGANDA BLOG THAT IS FOCUSED UPON RACISM CHASING. THEIR WHITE ENEMIES ARE SUPERIOR TO ANYTHING A BLACK CAN DO TO ASSAULT BLACK PEOPLE
* 7 Year Old Little Black Girl Murdered As Street Pirate Fire Bullets Into The Car She Was Riding In
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/04/10/1572969/police-investigate-shooting-death.html
* Man Murdered As He Moved Out Of His Apartment. Street Pirates Insured That He Would Leave In A Coffin
http://www.ajc.com/news/dekalb/man-shot-killed-outside-453024.html
* Schools In Kansas City Elect New School Board. Despite Promises Of 20 Years Ago Which Said The Same Thing "THIS TIME" It Will Be A Good Change For Black And Hispanic Students.
http://voices.kansascity.com/node/8509
None of these points have any vectors that the RACISM CHASERS can feed upon.
Anonymous said...
And Barack Obama is not a good athlete. He sucks at basketball, and he is the most pathetic golfer this side of Charles Barkley. His own wife could kick his ass, and I'll bet her balls are bigger
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Speaking of big balls! The Wingnut's number one conservative female pundit-wears a blond lace-front wig and has an Adam's Apple bigger than my brother's. Maybe she could beat Obama in basketball because her hands and feat are larger than his.
"About white skin privilege...that does not exist any more and that's why there is such turmoil in this country."
White skin privilege is the belief by Whites that they are superior by the color of their skin. How can you say that it doesn't exist?
You are right that there IS turmoil in this country because of it but NOT because it doesn't exist.
I wonder if dogs have negrophobia?? Is it a nature/nuture equation...lol,lol,lol
I once had a Black dog... He never bit white folks hell he never bit anybody...lol,lol,lol He did bark at stuff in the dark..I wonder if he could see folks in the dark??..Barking I guess is a dog thing..lol,lol,lol
Anonymous said...
"About white skin privilege...that does not exist any more and that's why there is such turmoil in this country."
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Oh it still exist! But Obama's election has made you wet your bigoted drawers. You feel threatened! Well, for a change, you could go back to your country of origin? But you racist would never do that. Because, you would no longer be be privileged. You'd be just another white man. But here, you're special. Racism has bestowed royalty upon you in America. You're esteemed by hatred.
What a pathetic creature you are!
If you've ever watch any nature show, you would notice that when an animal is fighting for it's life, it will kick, scream, scratch, claw, do any and everything to survive.
That is where the conservative movement is right now. Even with the bailouts, stimulus, health care reform and the jobs bill up for debate, he still has a approval rating near 50%. When the republicans pick their sacrificial lamb for 2012, and the electorate has a clear choice, what do you think will happen? Listen to them. Listen to Newt, Sarah, and the rest of them. They are just saying dumb shit, hoping that stupid people believe it.
What we are seeing in the GOP is reverse political evolution, the bad seeds of Nixon's Southern Strategy come back to haunt, and further evidence that large political movements tend to be dominated by their most extreme elements until the policies they produce lead to tragedy and catastrophe, thus empowering more moderate elements who are given the thankless task of cleaning up the mess.
The GOP thought it could assimilate and tame the far right white supremacist South that George Wallace et al, had organized and empowered into a formidable political force. Instead, this uncompromising extremist base was able to gradually assimilate the GOP to itself, even if doing so required that all liberal and moderate Republicans be driven out of the party, the conservative intelligentsia be exiled, and the GOP whittled down after two disastrous loses in national elections until the GOP was geographically equal to the deep South.
And now this radicalized GOP hopes to use a few positive polling results in its favor that were gained thanks to lies, distortions, angry demonstrations and FOX's unrelenting propaganda efforts, to pretend that it speaks for the American people instead of the party that won two overwhelming victories in the last two elections. The Southern-right dominated Republican Party has simply refused to accept defeat, which means it has refused to accept the verdict of the American people -- despite all its sanctimonious talk about "the public's will" and "consent of the governed."
These are the people who've hated the government since the 60's because black folks were extended protections and they see the stimulus and the health care bill as some fucked-up sort of reparations because things like this help the poor. And according to conservative thinking, if you are poor, you are lazy, and most blacks are poor, ergo, they are lazy and they will get health care paid for by hard working whites.
Granny @ 1:48
You betta speak! BAM!
ISEEISEE & Rikyrah...
Keep hammering it home. I'm enjoying! Betta ask somebody!
Carry on...
TSC, I have heard wingnuts with that meme.(That health-care reform is a form of reparations for black folks) Maybe the Destructive Wingnut -him being a charter member of the wingnut club- can tell us exactly what that means.
"the most radical president in American history,"
Name one radical thing he has done, please. Oh wait, wingnuts can't be bothered backing their BS up with facts, since they have none.
I would love to see fat fuck Newt run for prez in 2012 just so he could get the the much needed dose of reality that NO ONE, not even Republicans, care to see him around. Similar to what that other paragon of Republican family values Rudy Guiliani got in 2008.
Prosecutor: East TX Man Distributed Pipe Bombs Because Of Anger At Government
"An East Texas man who federal prosecutors allege left explosive devices including pipe bombs in multiple area mail boxes, was motivated in part by anger at the government, Brit Featherston, first assistant U. S. attorney for the Eastern District of Texas tells TPMmuckraker in a phone interview.
"It does appear that there were two motives: one, that he was disenchanted with the federal government, and, two, he was disenchanted with an individual who he perceived that had wronged him," says Featherston of 52-year-old Larry North, who was arrested today."
Field, I know this is old news but I wonder what the odds are that ol' Larry is a 'bagger who listens to Radio Rwanda and hangs out at PrisonPlanet?
Gregory:
"I know this is old news but I wonder what the odds are that ol' Larry is a 'bagger who listens to Radio Rwanda and hangs out at PrisonPlanet?"
100%, I bet he watches Beck and Hannity more than women watch soap operas and probably tapes it to watch reruns.
Frank:
Welcome back, yeah, granny missed you.
I don't know why CF continues to tie local city government and police department issues in with Federal politics. A sign of confusion perhaps? I am beginning to wonder if he knows the difference between the two. It is really simple, local government handles issues concerning the their city and their police handle crime in that city. On the other hand, the Federal government legislate laws, policies, and regulations, and deal with foreign affairs for the nation as a whole.
I swear I thought that Palin was the only one that those simple facts escape, but I might have to rethink that. smh!
“Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.”
-Vice-President of the confederacy, Alexander Stephens, 1861.
This is the fundamental truth at the heart of every teabagger who screams that he "wants their country back".
Fuck Them.
Trapped In SC:
I swear you and I must be kinfolks.
BTW, some of my ancestors were from SC too. Somewhere down the line we're all connected because it just goes around in a big circle in the South that stretches from out of the Caribbean and back to Africa.
TSC
The Illuminutty at various conspiracy sites have their tin-foil knickers in a twist over a CNN opinion piece that asks the question, "Were Confederate soldiers terrorists?"
Rowland Martin's article is less than a day old and it already has nearly 5k comments, mostly from hysterical neo-confederates. This, I'm sure, comes as no surprise to you, given your geographical moniker.
Ms. Ann G Myma,
Anonymous said...
"About white skin privilege...that does not exist any more and that's why there is such turmoil in this country."
******
"Oh it still exist! But Obama's election has made you wet your bigoted drawers. You feel threatened! Well, for a change, you could go back to your country of origin? But you racist would never do that. Because, you would no longer be be privileged. You'd be just another white man. But here, you're special. Racism has bestowed royalty upon you in America. You're esteemed by hatred.
What a pathetic creature you are!"
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FYI: Anon is neither White, racist or against you. Anon is Black like you are. Anonymous commented what Agape2010@ 6:01 AM said about the non-existence of white privilege.
Anon totally agrees with you but totallly diagrees with Agape's comment, which said,
"About white skin privilege...that does not exist any more and that's why there is such turmoil in this country."
White privilege is a state of mind which has NOTHING to do with money or wealth. It has everything to do with a 'state of mind' that says, "white skin is superior, and white is right."
White privilege crosses all classes of Whites and won't disappear because of intelligence, money, or wealth. Any person who thinks otherwise is in PROFOUND DENIAL.
Maybe you should address your comment to Agape2010 @6:01AM. Because SHE is the one who thinks white privilege doesn't exist, not Anon.
Gregory:
I read the comments on Roland Martin. Strange how they all seem to agree that confederates were not terrorist. Yet, the confederates did terrorize black people and kept on terrorizing them after slavery was over in the form of lynching, burning their houses and businesses down, stealing their possessions and land.
Their way of thinking is messed up because they think that being a confederate soldier was an honor and that they were fighting for their homeland. However, they were fighting to oppress and keep black oppressed, but to them that is okay.
Don't you find it odd that they didn't and don't cry out as loud and have much to say about Palin, Bachmann, King, Beck, Hannity, and Rush inciting violence against the government, the President, and other public government officials. In their eyesight that's okay, nothing to get your dandruff up about.
In other words, that type of intent to do murder and terrorist threats would be okay in their book. Yup! They are a bloodthirsty bunch and selective in the type of blood they want.
Now, they're labeling Roland Martin a racist, idiot, etc. Smh! White folks is full of S...!
[quote]That health-care reform is a form of reparations for black folks[/quote]
Filled Negro:
As a PROUD Black man with sufficient consciousness I make the following notes about "Health Care" without GIVING A DAMN about what a "wingnut" has to say about it.
1) The notion of "Health Care Is A Right" is totally IRRELEVANT. Go to Guatemala and get the legislature to mandate "Health Care As A Right" and it would not mean a DAMNED THING to the poor people there.
2) For Health Care you need:
A) Skilled Medical Professionals who know the human body and the treatments of certain ailments
B) The ECONOMIC system by which the people, medicines and devices that are used in the process might be paid for
C) ACCESS TO the TECHNOLOGICAL Materials and Chemicals by which are used in treatment.
TAKE AWAY ANY OF THESE ELEMENTS and you have a PIECE OF PAPER that promises people care. It is better to use the paper as a tourniquet to capture the blood because this is all that it is worth.
Filled Negro - using this as a reference - CAN YOU TELL ME.......In this bill - WHICH OF THESE 3 POINTS were advanced in regard to the BLACK COMMUNITY'S ABILITY TO SUPPORT OUR OWN INTERESTS ORGANICALLY?
I have to ask you Filled Negro:
WHY DID YOU TAKE OVER OUR SCHOOLS - If your control has NOT developed more physicians?
WHY DID YOU TAKE OVER the ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COMMUNITIES when your control has not made us more PRODUCTIVE?
WHY DID YOU TAKE OVER OUR CULTURAL MESSAGES when that which you are influencing our people to do has NOT lead to more healthy lifestyles?
WHAT DID YOU PREPARE US FOR other than to VOTE OURSELVES to be IN RECEIPT OF THESE BENEFITS?
If you were to be PRUNED and GRAFTED over to Guatemala, Chad or Laos - would YOU be able to leverage your present position to recreate your STANDARD OF LIVING in this new place?
WHY do you call yourself a PROGRESSIVE when it is clear that you are NOT "PROGRESSING" the competencies of our community. You are ONLY increasing the dependency upon the inner-lining of the stomach of the BEAST - which you have your umbilical chord attached to.
[quote]Yet, the confederates did terrorize black people and kept on terrorizing them after slavery was over in the form of lynching, burning their houses and businesses down, stealing their possessions and land.[/quote]
Granny:
I am finishing up some research on the point BUT - can you tell me WHAT YOU CAN CONDEMN THE "CONFEDERATES" about that you CANNOT attack the "US CONTINENTAL ARMY" headed by George Washington against?
BOTH had governments that protected SLAVERY.
The ONLY thing that we can conclude is that the "Union" ended slavery in the North decades prior to what the Confederates did.
Score this as yet another DIVERSIONARY CHUM FEEDING for Negroes who have no management tools to address the KEY PROBLEMS IN OUR COMMUNITIES TO-DAMNED-DAY.
Instead with their perpetual RACISM CHASING - they believe that they are FIGHTING TO DEFEND THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
As I watch the news between the time of the incident in Virginia to today - there has been a Black person murdered in some ridiculous incident in METRO-ATLANTA alone. The fear of the Tea Party is greater than the evidence of any coordinated effort to PROVE that the Black Establishment actually values BLACK LIFE - beyond the RACISM CHASING that they can make an indictment against White Folks, Police or Republicans.
I seriously wonder when you all will get TIRED OF YOURSELVES.
[quote]I don't know why CF continues to tie local city government and police department issues in with Federal politics. A sign of confusion perhaps? I am beginning to wonder if he knows the difference between the two. It is really simple, local government handles issues concerning the their city and their police handle crime in that city. On the other hand, the Federal government legislate laws, policies, and regulations, and deal with foreign affairs for the nation as a whole. [/quote]
My dear Granny:
IF THIS IS SO about the firewall between LOCAL and FEDERAL - please ANSWER a few questions for me.
1) WHY did Rep John Lewis head up "Civil Rights Cold Case" murders using FEDERAL resources? Aren't murders local and state issues? Since HIS DISTRICT houses what is known as "The Most Deadly Black In Atlanta" - can you tell me why - Black women in particular - are comforted that Lewis is going after murder cases from 1948 while STREET PIRATES are causing them to go onto the NEWS TO-DAMNED-DAY and tell the world "I don't feel safe in this community any longer"?
2) WHY did Fulton County GA recently team up with the FBI to create a "Street Pirate TASK FORCE" (Street Gang Task Force) in response to the rampant murders, "smash and grab" robberies and armed robberies/car jackings.
Better yet Granny - WHY aren't any of these assaults labeled as "Civil Rights Violations"?
It seems to me that you and others only want to FEDERALIZE that which you favor.
FOR ME - I see Obama and the Federal Democrats as part of the same MACHINE that already has control over the cities with the highest misery indices.
As long as people like YOU keep "RACISM CHASING" and "Self Chumming" - you will continue to fail to MANAGE THE PEOPLE WHO YOU PUT INTO POWER and instead will promote any WHITE REPUBLICAN who has no POWER OVER YOU to a SUPERIOR THREAT. Even the lowliest of White people should feel honored that you and Filled Negro are ready to promote them into POWER.
It is the Street Pirate who wishes he could garner as much respect from you despite his murderous assaults upon Black people.
@ anon at 5:57 pm
This is where you and I disagree:
"White privilege is a state of mind which has NOTHING to do with money or wealth. It has everything to do with a 'state of mind' that says, "white skin is superior, and white is right.""
Privelge...within the context of the anon and his/her comments...mean that this anon probabaly does not have the rights, immunities or benefits enjoyed by a person's skin color(else why be so irate?)...and based on the comments that the anon made..they sounded more like something a bigot would say.
Here are some instances of privelege as they exsist in America:
1.a right, immunity, or benefit enjoyed only by a person beyond the advantages of most: the privileges of the very rich.
2.a special right, immunity, or exemption granted to persons in authority or office to free them from certain obligations or liabilities: the privilege of a senator to speak in Congress without danger of a libel suit.
3.a grant to an individual, corporation, etc., of a special right or immunity, under certain conditions.
4.the principle or condition of enjoying special rights or immunities.
5.any of the rights common to all citizens under a modern constitutional government: We enjoy the privileges of a free people.
6.an advantage or source of pleasure granted to a person: It's my privilege to be here.
7.Stock Exchange. an option to buy or sell stock at a stipulated price for a limited period of time, including puts, calls, spreads, and straddles.
And...as you know I only enjoy discussion and intelligent dialog and will respond in kind...the minute it gets declasse'...I'm out :)
I do know that at one time in this country there was absolute white skin privlege...now I believe that white skin privelege is metered out to a chosen few that have wealth...
Whatever is in someone's mind that makes them think/feel/believe/act/ that they are superior (and do not have the privelege that goes along with it) is just...all in their minds...
In my work we call it an inferiority complex :)
And...notice this:
1. Very Rich
2. Congress
3. Corportations
4. Special Rights
5. Constituational Goevernment
6. Granted
7. Stock Exchange
If you read the short list I provided...the key words therein lie the privelege (sometimes white, sometimes black...but all about the green :)
Peace.
~agape2010~
"..Mr. Obama is "the most radical president in American history," Gingrich said. "He has said, 'I run a machine, I own Washington, and there is nothing you can do about it.'"
Newt's comment is very telling. Not about Obama since Obama said no such thing... but what it tells me is that Newt is pissed that Obama is President and "there is nothing he can do about that."
Suck it Newt.
You know CF, sometimes I regret that I fought for Civil Rights, and that my cousin Thelma tried to integrate a school. I have a other relatives and extended family who fought for your rights.
Let me tell you why. Because people like you get to enjoy those rights too, and that is the only time I regret it! Because you seem to have a disdain for being able to have those rights. Yet and still, you are enjoying those freedoms that we once did not have that people died for in your behalf. What you don't understand is the battle was never over in the fight for rights. It has always been seize fire to regroup stragedy with those who wish to deny you your rights. The battle to maintain those rights came behind it and is still ongoing. Some of it subtle and some not subtle at all but a right in your face.
People like you spit on us with ungratefulness and unthankfulness, take for granted, and show disrepect for the blood that was shed in your behalf, so that you could sit at that computer or for that fact even own one, or work on that job and participate in that capitalism that you love so much; that you have the freedom to vote and go where you want to go and eat where you want to eat. You even have the opportunity to attend whatever school you want to attend or shop at whatever store you want to shop at, and much much more.
There used to be a time when you would have been hung for just looking a white person in their eyes since you were not considered human, but you can do that now free from harm. Not only that you could have been hung for even desiring some of things I mentioned above in the prior paragraph.
My uncle wasn't the only one in my family murdered back during Jim Crow. We had a few of them who were murdered. I just use him as an example of what blacks went through. Why were they murdered? Because they only wanted to follow their American Dream and were prosperous in doing so. But I come from a family of fighters who will stand up and fight for what they believe in even if it means death.
However, even during the Civil Rights fight there were people like you who betrayed black folks and thought that helping out those who would deny you your rights would help save them from whatever fate came to black folks. Yeah, that's what they thought, but it never worked out that way, because when the dust settled, they were discarded by those they called themselves helping. So go ahead and take your eyes off of racism if you choose, but me, I will never ever close my eyes to the point that I get so comfortable that I become blind.
Hey brother Field seems like another day in paradise. What can you expect from Newt Gingrich, didn't he leave or cheat on his wife while she was sick?
Granny-
I feel what you just said. And you are so right we have to continue to be vigilant in order to maintain the rights we have.
As a long time fellow fighter I salute you sister!
And you have been on fire on this thread. Hopefully someone will read and actually consider the info. with an open mind.
BTW, to those who sent me e-mails, I just got around to checking my e-mails and reply to yours. Sorry for slow reponses, but I've been off and on the computer doing other things and been pretty busy.
"You know CF, sometimes I regret that I fought for Civil Rights, and that my cousin Thelma tried to integrate a school. I have a other relatives and extended family who fought for your rights. "
Granny, don't ever feel that way. Although I know that folks like the Destructive Wingnut make it frustrating to think that we fought for civil rights so that we could spawn Negroes like him. But hey, this is "Murka", it takes all kinds.
[quote]You know CF, sometimes I regret that I fought for Civil Rights, and that my cousin Thelma tried to integrate a school. I have a other relatives and extended family who fought for your rights.
Let me tell you why. Because people like you get to enjoy those rights too, and that is the only time I regret it! Because you seem to have a disdain for being able to have those rights.[/quote]
Granny:
If I told you that you were SO PREDICTABLE - would you CHANGE?
Do you see that if you have the sense to REGRET that you fought against INJUSTICE that I now "benefit from" that you did not have an ABSOLUTE revulsion of this INJUSTICE.
But that isn't even my biggest indictment of you Granny.
You see Granny - I look for you to RENDER THIS REMORSE against the people of your own who:
* Commit CIVIL RIGHTS ATTACKS against their own kind TO-DAMNED-DAY
* Who CONFISCATE instruction time from their classmates with their disruptions
* Who's bricks thrown through the plate glass windows of businesses in their OWN DAMNED COMMUNITY as they steal flat screen televisions. Then the EVIL INSURANCE COMPANIES, seeking ti mitigate their risk - RAISE THE PREMIUMS of the businesses......driving them one step closer to insolvency.
Granny - I only ask that you WRITE THE RULE THAT I HAVE FAILED TO LIVE UP TO.
Then I will take "Granny's Rule" and apply it to Filled Negro, Mellenous, Hathor, LAC, Ernesto, Jody, Agape, Low & Country and WhiteBowieSteve.
It seems to me, Granny that you, like the classic "All White Jury" rendered judgments based upon certain attributes that you FAVOR about a person rather than objective JUSTICE.
[quote] Although I know that folks like the Destructive Wingnut make it frustrating to think that we fought for civil rights so that we could spawn Negroes like him.[/quote]
Filled Negro:
Why is it that the group that I work with accept my assistance in mentoring Black boys in the reading program that I work with?
Each and every week they are observing me, their minds are imprinted with my ways.
I, a resident father, LEAVE MY WIFE AND CHILDREN - to go raise up the son of some other Black male who is not present.
In the fraudulent and perverted ideology that you and Granny partake in - I am a greater ASSAILANT of the freedoms that the "Struggle" hath bestowed upon our people than this, the ABSENTEE FATHER has put upon his community.
Granny and Filled Negro - In my line of thinking, me falling short of certain people's standards is not an indicator of MY LACK OF INTEGRITY.
Instead it is an indicator that they are the modern day purveyors of "HOW MANY BUBBLES IN A BAR OF SOAP?".
CF:
You are so full of S...!
[quote]I feel what you just said. And you are so right we have to continue to be vigilant in order to maintain the rights we have.
[/quote]
Mellaneous The Christian Journalist:
As I distill the essence of the RACIST:
* He wants to use physical assault and intimidation to keep Black people in our places, killing us if necessary
* He wants to suppress our access to education because "an educated Negro is one who is given to SYSTEMATIC thought in addressing his problems rather than superstition and conspiracies".
* He wants to DESTROY the commerce of the Negro because as the Negro builds up an ECONOMIC FABRIC he grows stronger and is less DEPENDENT on "Mr Charlie"
* He wants to DESTROY relationships between Black people and have our health outcomes undercut our desire for long, fruitful lives
Mellaneous The Christian Journalist - Assuming that you believe that ALL MEN ARE EQUAL.....can you tell me which of these THREATS/ASSAULTS that you and Filled Negro are "on post" to defend against from THE OUTSIDE ENEMY is NOT PRESENT from those who assail us from the INSIDE?
Why, other than Non-White White Supremacy is it that you and others focus upon EXTERNAL THREATS and mere words from evil Republicans?
I am not certain but I don't think that Newt Gingrich shot the man in Tucker GA last night that I saw on the news. Do you have some inside information to indict him?
[quote]You are so full of S...![/quote]
Now, now Granny.
I went to church and prayed for you and Mellaneous The Christian Journalist.
Is this any way to talk to your brother in Christ?
HEY FILLED NEGRO: Last week was Easter Sunday. Jesus rose from the dead as he DIED FOR ALL OF OUR SINS.
Is Jesus Christ your savior?
Or have Granny and Mellenous The Christian Journalist never asked you this question between their bouts of RACISM CHASING?
CF:
Only the prayers of the righteous availeth much. You cannot serve God and Mammon too. Either you love one and hate the other. You do know what Mammon means don't you? But in case you don't let me break it down for you.
Mammon = Riches, avarice, and worldly gain personified as a false god. Therefore, instead of worrying about Field's soul salvation, you should be worried about your own since you love capitalism so much.
BTW, I know that Mellaneous is a Christian because there is power in his words-not fear.
Thanks Granny and the same goes for you.
CF as usual you are ranting and nobody knows but you what you are talking about.
For the record I never said anything detrimental to you. I said to Granny that "I feel you" because I understood her frustration.
I think you have a right to say whatever you want, but you shouldn't get offended when folks call you out for saying it.
Because as I point out and others you have some of the most reprehensible ideas, especially when it comes to the advancement of all mankind.
CF said:
"Is this any way to talk to your brother in Christ?"
Don't even try it CF. You don't act like anybody's brother, not even a black brother. You seem to disdain all things black and you have a dim view of humanity.
When I have tried to appeal to your Christian sensibilities you have made it clear that you don't have them. In fact "misanthrope" seems to be the best word to describe you! (look it up)
The only way I found out that you even claimed to be a Christian is when you and your racist anon freind tried to accuse me of being judgemental when I called you out.
You seldom act like a brother of mine in any sense of the word.
In fact, it is obvious to everyone who reads this blog that you are an uncaring, unempathetic and insensitive individual.
But I can't say you aren't a Christian because too many folks who claim to profess the faith are nearly as uncaring as you.
And my main point of contention with you is, How (and many others who call themselves Christians) can you praise and uphold the so-called virtues of such an obviously ungodly political/economic system such as Capitalism?
Granny is right, you can't serve God and money(capital)
Save your sanctimoniousness you have already exposed yourself on this blog.
And what we have seen ain't very Christian.
"Each and every week they are observing me, their minds are imprinted with my ways."
Lord save our children. :(
Newt....people not only still listen to him, they care what he thinks? Only the weak and feeble minded., spineless ones.
@ FN:
"Each and every week they are observing me, their minds are imprinted with my ways."
Lord save our children. :(
8:57 PM
Now that is funny! But you can also think of it another way...the imprint he gives off to the children can turn out to be good...
Example: My nephew needed tutoring in math while in junior high...so I enlisted the help of a black man that was retired from IBM...brilliant man (in math).
My nephew excelled in math due to his tutor...but he laughed as his azz after every tutoring session!
My nephew would say..."all Mr. (blank) knows how to do is teach math...he doesn't know anything else...he has no social skills or ques...I feel sorry for him...and he always asks me if you're married...you know he loves you...he's such a wimp...but I'm gonna get an A in math."
I didn't know who was zooming who for a while...don't worry about the kids...they're smarter thn you think :)
Peae.
~agape2010~
Y'all forgive me for my spelling on those post, but I was a little disturbed at the time I typed it. Nevertheless, I'm sure everyone understood what I was saying.
@Agape
I cooked some cabbage, baked yams, and a meatloaf today and had planned to cook some cornbread with it, but I think those late hours on online made me lazy. Starting tomorrow, I plan to get some rest, at least I hope I do. :)
Agape2010, here is a list of examples what "white privilege" means in America:
http://www.redroom.com/blog/tim-wise/this-your-nation-white-privilege-updated
In addition, here is a short video by Tim Wise on white privilege:
http://www.redroom.com/blog/tim-wise/this-your-nation-white-privilege-updated
@ Granny:
OK - You can't tell a single woman about a Sunday dinner and not invite her :)
Either I have t make my way to you or we are going to UPS some of that food to me hahahaha!
Peace.
~agape2010~
[quote]You cannot serve God and Mammon too. [/quote]
Granny: PLEASE!!!
What you want me to do is to allow you to CONFISCATE IN THE NAME OF YOUR JESUS!!! (Uncle Sam).
If you can get me to believe in the perversion of Christianity that Jesus said to MAINTAIN THE POOR, feeding them daily then you can have me to look the other way as you orchestrate your leftist/statist strategy.
MY GOD said that we are all created in HIS OWN IMAGE. My goal as a Christian is to have them SEE THEMSELVES IN THIS LIGHT.
IF any Christian is going to "their God" and asking for his praise for having the LONGEST SOUP LINE to feed the masses it is HE who has perverted Christianity.
Granny you, me and others should be judged on the number of people you have who NO LONGER SHOW UP IN YOUR SOUP LINE because they are either NO LONGER IN NEED or they have increased their competencies and are HELPING OTHERS.
You supporting GOVERNMENT policies that FEED PEOPLE is not an act of "Christianity". The biggest devil in the world can PAY TAXES and from which YOU can use these funds to FEED PEOPLE VIA YOUR GOVERNMENT PROGRAM.
If I worship MONEY then I am on my knees right beside YOU as you have your money stack in front of you. I am watching to make sure that you don't take my wallet as part of YOUR sacrifice.
[QUOTE]
Don't even try it CF. You don't act like anybody's brother, not even a black brother. You seem to disdain all things black and you have a dim view of humanity.[/quote]
What you are detecting out of me is NOT A DISDAIN FOR "BLACKNESS".
Instead it is a GUTTURAL DISDAIN FOR INFERIORITY and those who TRAFFIC IN IT!!!!!
Mellaneous The Christian Journalist - I merely need to indicate to you and others that BLACK PEOPLE ARE DAMAGED GOODS as caused by WHITE FOLKS, have my posts fall in line with this meme and I would be dutifully accepted into your assembly of rogues fellows.
I REFUSE TO!!!!!!
Sometimes a "brother" TELLS YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO HEAR as he eschews the POPULARITY that comes from telling you the "secret password" that you WANT TO HEAR for entry into your club of misery.
[quote]
When I have tried to appeal to your Christian sensibilities you have made it clear that you don't have them.[/quote]
Mellaneous the Christian Journalist - could you tell me WHO ELSE ON THIS BLOG you have attempted to appeal to in this way? You are a "fisher of MEN", aren't you?
[quote] In fact "misanthrope" seems to be the best word to describe you! (look it up)[/quote]
How can I "rope and ant"? Of COURSE I'd likely "Miss". Are you an expert with the lasso in which you can be more successful them me?
[quote]You seldom act like a brother of mine in any sense of the word.[/quote]
Brother - the fact that I am not going along with your LIES and mischaracterations about the condition of the Negro will one day be appreciated by you. The ones who love you are willing to stand up to you. Think about how Michael Jackson and Elvis would be IF they had such a "brother"?
[quote]In fact, it is obvious to everyone who reads this blog that you are an uncaring, unempathetic and insensitive individual.[/quote]
Uncaring - Mell's Antidote: Treat people as if they are DAMAGED GOODS and feed them.
Unempathetic - Mell's Antidote: Listen to the various, well worn excuses made by people and how SOMEONE ELSE DID IT TO THEM. Take their GRIEVANCES and make a movement out of it. THEY WILL LOVE YOU because nothing about THEIR OWN ACTIONS will be indicted.
Insensitive - Mell's Antidote: Don't say anything about Filled Negro's OBVIOUS attempt to RACISM CHASE, taping into the sensitivities and sensibilities of those who accept being called THE LEAST OF THESE.
You suck Mellenous The Christian Journalist
@ anon:
I had a really good reponse for you but for some reason it got all mixed up in the www... and all that came out was CF's responses :)
So I will make this one shorter...I so appreciate you putting up Tim Wise...he lives up to his name (MHO)
However, people can only give me what I allow them to...I have never allowed whites to make me believe they have more privelege than me...it's simply my world view.
As far as Palin goes...she is a perfect example of the fact that white skin privelege does not exsist in absolute form anymore.
Here is a woman that held the governor's office and was good at what she was hired to do...keep track of the revenues of the oil and the pipeline business...that's all Stevens asked of her.
She left and set her sights on bigger fish to fry with McCain...and would have had a seat at the table had she just shut up...which she was told to do.
I never for one minute thought that Palin was priveleged...I knew she was being used by those that have the privelge (Ted Stevens and John McCain both of whom have money). Palin presented as a buffon and she still presents as a buffoon.
She had to leave office because the real privelege left his office-Ted Stevens (notice how nobody is even mentioning his name...now he has privelege ;).
I have dealt with many whites that wanted me to perceive they had more privelge than myself...and I have always won those battles...not because I am good at battling (although I am :) but because I never perceived them to have privelege in the first place.
When I think of "white skin privelege" I think of it in absolute terms...Rothchilds, Heinz, Macy, and other names that people do not read about every day.
When I think of "privelege" I think of people that have been granted something...or favored in some way...the Clintons, the Kennedy's major corps. etc
Whites that are up in arms aren't really mad at blacks...they've hated on us long time :) They're mad because they are finding out they've been bamboozled...hoodwinked...because they really do not have a seat at the table and they do not belong to "the club".
They are up in arms and taking it out on whites in the system...their local officials, state officials and federal officials. Clearly the ones that hate blacks are using this as an excuse to do what they have always wanted to do...but these not so new militia groups target the government...not blacks. Why...?...because they have woken up only to find that they are still just white...with no privelege at all. So how can they feel privelege...? only in their minds.
So we have a difference of opinion and we will have to agree to disagree :)
And...I thank you for the discussion because I have learned something new...I will not be using the term "white skin privelege" anymore...I will only use the term privelege as it applies :)
Good nite all...everyone have a great week! (no matter what the world brings us :)
Peace.
~agape2010~
@ anon:
Boy..if the other response was longer than the diatribe I just wrote...you came out on the best side ;-)
word verf: sidenap...lol
Peace.
~agape2010~
CF, I don't know what bible you reading or what church you go to, but take it from me, you are being lead astray. The bible your reading must be a revisionist generic one, because it is not KJV or any of the others.
My bible says this:
Lo, this is the man that made not God his strength; but trusted in the abundance of his riches, and strengthened himself in his wickedness.
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
If there be among you a poor man of one of thy brethren within any of thy gates in thy land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not harden thine heart, nor shut thine hand from thy poor brother:
For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.
Mellaneous:
I see that the truth is hitting CF all upside his head and his mind is beginning to wage a battle. That is how they usually react when the truth begins to pierce and chip away at that stony heart. Not even sounding coherent, he is going through the denial and offense stages. Hopefully, he'll eventually puke that poison up and be delivered.
"I see that the truth is hitting CF all upside his head and his mind is beginning to wage a battle"
Granny, maybe we should get him some Advil. The truth really hurts so he must be having some serious headaches right about now. :)
[quote]I so appreciate you putting up Tim Wise...he lives up to his name[/quote]
Agape:
You seem like a pretty conscious person. IF YOU find Tim Wise "wise" then you, perhaps need to do a bit more research on him.
Here is the function of Tim Wise.
His job is to go to WHITE PEOPLE to tell them that THEY HAVE INJURED BLACK PEOPLE and should feel remorse, attempting to have them redeem themselves in the eye's of Blacks.
ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION upon listening to Wise, Agape: WHAT DOES WISE EVER ASK OF BLACK PEOPLE IN SUPPORT OF OUR OWN DEVELOPMENT?
ANSWER: NOTHING!!!
So the question that you must ask yourself Agape is: "Are Blacks merely passengers/pawns on the road to our own development of competency and consciousness?"
Tim Wise is no friend of CONSCIOUS BLACK PEOPLE. He figures that rain will come down and wash the ignorance off of us and thus we will be healed.
Christian preachers Granny and Mellaneous The Christian Journalist:
Do you see that you pull out biblical versus for ME yet the non-believer Filled Negro is allowed to play the Flava Flav hype man role, NEVER being asked to sup with you in communion?
My dear Granny:
That camel through the eye of a needle is talking about the RICH MAN who loves his MONEY.
It is not against God to BE RICH. It is only those who love their material more than they love their God that is problematic.
[quote]But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition[/quote]
GRANNY - notice that in your piousness you NEVER saw the picture of TIGER WOODS in this verse.
[quote]If there be among you a poor man of one of thy brethren within any of thy gates in thy land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not harden thine heart, nor shut thine hand from thy poor brother:[/quote]
Granny - I spent the last week with a good friend who is an "Anti-America American" and a self described COMMUNIST. He loves Fidel and Che'. The USA is the devil around the world - he says.
* When it came to the poor Black man who gave us a horse tour - I gave the man a $10 peso tip - my friend rebuked me saying "I already paid him. Why are you giving him more money?!!!". This despite the guy showing us the big back of crackers for his kids to eat. We thought the crackers were for his horse. My friend had no problem given money to the bartenders for his own alcohol though.
* When two young prostitutes came to our table in a restaurant (NO I DID NOT DO IT WITH THEM!! There is a swam of them with an eye for Americans.) I bought them dinner and they added cigarettes to MY TAB. My friend told me that I was being played. I should not buy them SHYT!!! For me - I was making observations of them and the track that this society had them placed upon.
I learned that 3 years of Spanish from 20 years ago in school had failed me.
GRANNY I fed them but did not EXPLOIT THEIR BODIES. My friend saw prostitutes. I saw two young ladies. (Ok, Ok. I saw their breasts as well.)
The funny thing about your piousness Granny (and Mellaneous) is that in your own "Mall Cop" way (Mall Cop = those who focus on suspects because of their BIGOTRY while the real thieves get away) you, in truth, have SUPERIOR expectations of ME, who is a critic of you and your ideology.
The indictment against you comes from observations of how you handle those who VIOLATE YOUR RULES yet you remain SILENT against them. This is because THEY are silent in their scrutiny or opposition to you.
AS LONG AS I AM the "salt on the back of the progressive-fundamentalist SNAILS" you all will show your discomfort of me.
Show me the "Jesus" in YOUR HEART.
Newt wouldn't know the truth if it bitchslapped him. He's been a bombthrower since he went to congress. His enmity is a badge of honor.
@ CF:
I never thought you would turn on me and go for a low blow...but...ce la vie...I research for a living...and I STILL LOVE Tim Wise....here's why:
"Here is the function of Tim Wise.
His job is to go to WHITE PEOPLE to tell them that THEY HAVE INJURED BLACK PEOPLE and should feel remorse, attempting to have them redeem themselves in the eye's of Blacks."
Since this is his function...as you so eloquently slated for him...then why should he have to "funtion" in any other capcity for the development of blacks? As long as his commentary is on broadening the horizons of whites where they lack insight I think he's "functioned" enough...
And....
Someone on this blog statd that you are that Frank Drachman guy...are you...never mind...it matters not :)
Peace.
~agape2010~
Newt Gingrich is a struggling comedian.
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