I love that quote attributed to Jefferson.
So I was thinking: Why is it that people can be such blatant hypocrites in A-merry-ca and get away with it? For instance; my man Glenn Beck is all over this Mosque being built near Ground Zero, and his argument goes something like this: (I am paraphrasing) Of course they have a right to their religious freedom under our Constitution, but why do they choose to build a church there given how people feel about that? They should be more sensitive to the feelings of their fellow A-merry-cans, just because they have a right to do it, doesn't mean that they should do it.
Ahhh Glenn (and I hate to agree with your colleague, Greta Von Frenkenstein, but do you notice something about that kettle staring you in the face? Yep, it looks just like you.
My man, you are doing the very same thing when you hold your march on the anniversary of Dr. King's I Have A Dream speech. Of course you have a right to do it, but should you? Given how some folks feel about you and your views on race. (You did call A-merry-ca's first black president a racist) I call bullshit on it being a mere coincidence, you knew exactly what you were doing.
And as for this Mosque at Ground Zero, I see that something like seventy percent of A--merry-cans oppose it. I wonder how many of them lost loved ones on 9/11? I agree with
Bob Cesca when he writes the following:
"If we take Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck and Newt Gingrich at their word, their objection to the proposed community center two blocks north of Ground Zero is that the entire area is hallowed ground, and a Muslim facility so close to the site is an insult to the victims and heroes of September 11.
Of course this is entirely about a swath of 9/11 fetishists, mostly Christians, ginning up anti-Muslim fear and demagoguery to score political points. It's a cheap and obvious exploitation of the widespread American prejudice that anyone who happens to be Muslim is equally as guilty and offensive as the terrorists who hijacked and crashed two airplanes into the World Trade Center towers.
It must be an election year because Republicans are once again rolling out September 11 as a wedge issue. You know, because they care about honoring the fallen. When it helps them politically.
If Beck, Limbaugh, Palin and Gingrich, along with the entire population of far-right AM talk radio, really cared about hallowed ground and historical preservation, they wouldn't be limiting their crusade to Park 51 (formerly Cordoba House).
As many of us have heard, there's a strip club two blocks away. I'm not sure how lap dances are less offensive than a religious community center. In fact, there are quite a few places in lower Manhattan within short walking distance of Ground Zero that would have to be eliminated as part of these stringent guidelines dictating how sacred ground ought to be respected. Via Twitter, Sarah Palin urged President Obama to weigh in on the Park 51 issue. Well, I urge Sarah Palin to weigh in on the strip club "at Ground Zero." We're waiting, Sarah. Will you campaign against the strip club? How about the gun shows that happen at Cox Pavilion, not far from the site of the Oklahoma City bombing? Or the shinto shrines a mile or two from Pearl Harbor?" [Article]
And I agree with Robert McIlvaine:
"Robert McIlvaine still struggles and probably always will. When the subject of his son, Bobby, comes up, McIlvaine asks that I give him a minute so he can compose himself.
Bobby McIlvaine, a Princeton graduate and aspiring writer who worked in media relations for Merrill Lynch, was on his way up to the 106th floor of the World Trade Center for a seminar that September morning when the plane hit. He never made it there. He was only 26.
Once the elder McIlvaine starts talking about the mosque controversy, sadness gives way to anger. How can people shred the Constitution to justify their biases?
"Nobody's asked me, and there are plenty of 9/11 families who feel the way I do," says McIlvaine, 65, a retired teacher who lives in Oreland.
When he first heard of the proposed Islamic center, he had no problem. "I didn't give it a second thought," he said. "And if you knew my son, you'd know he'd be rolling over in his grave over this."
As would the American Muslims who also died on that day.
"It's a sin what [fearmongers] are doing, making this about politics at the families' expense," McIlvaine adds. "It's producing hate, and it's the last thing this country needs right now." [Story]
Ahhh Glenn (and I hate to agree with your colleague, Greta Von Frenkenstein, but do you notice something about that kettle staring you in the face? Yep, it looks just like you.
My man, you are doing the very same thing when you hold your march on the anniversary of Dr. King's I Have A Dream speech. Of course you have a right to do it, but should you? Given how some folks feel about you and your views on race. (You did call A-merry-ca's first black president a racist) I call bullshit on it being a mere coincidence, you knew exactly what you were doing.
And as for this Mosque at Ground Zero, I see that something like seventy percent of A--merry-cans oppose it. I wonder how many of them lost loved ones on 9/11? I agree with
Bob Cesca when he writes the following:
"If we take Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck and Newt Gingrich at their word, their objection to the proposed community center two blocks north of Ground Zero is that the entire area is hallowed ground, and a Muslim facility so close to the site is an insult to the victims and heroes of September 11.
Of course this is entirely about a swath of 9/11 fetishists, mostly Christians, ginning up anti-Muslim fear and demagoguery to score political points. It's a cheap and obvious exploitation of the widespread American prejudice that anyone who happens to be Muslim is equally as guilty and offensive as the terrorists who hijacked and crashed two airplanes into the World Trade Center towers.
It must be an election year because Republicans are once again rolling out September 11 as a wedge issue. You know, because they care about honoring the fallen. When it helps them politically.
If Beck, Limbaugh, Palin and Gingrich, along with the entire population of far-right AM talk radio, really cared about hallowed ground and historical preservation, they wouldn't be limiting their crusade to Park 51 (formerly Cordoba House).
As many of us have heard, there's a strip club two blocks away. I'm not sure how lap dances are less offensive than a religious community center. In fact, there are quite a few places in lower Manhattan within short walking distance of Ground Zero that would have to be eliminated as part of these stringent guidelines dictating how sacred ground ought to be respected. Via Twitter, Sarah Palin urged President Obama to weigh in on the Park 51 issue. Well, I urge Sarah Palin to weigh in on the strip club "at Ground Zero." We're waiting, Sarah. Will you campaign against the strip club? How about the gun shows that happen at Cox Pavilion, not far from the site of the Oklahoma City bombing? Or the shinto shrines a mile or two from Pearl Harbor?" [Article]
And I agree with Robert McIlvaine:
"Robert McIlvaine still struggles and probably always will. When the subject of his son, Bobby, comes up, McIlvaine asks that I give him a minute so he can compose himself.
Bobby McIlvaine, a Princeton graduate and aspiring writer who worked in media relations for Merrill Lynch, was on his way up to the 106th floor of the World Trade Center for a seminar that September morning when the plane hit. He never made it there. He was only 26.
Once the elder McIlvaine starts talking about the mosque controversy, sadness gives way to anger. How can people shred the Constitution to justify their biases?
"Nobody's asked me, and there are plenty of 9/11 families who feel the way I do," says McIlvaine, 65, a retired teacher who lives in Oreland.
When he first heard of the proposed Islamic center, he had no problem. "I didn't give it a second thought," he said. "And if you knew my son, you'd know he'd be rolling over in his grave over this."
As would the American Muslims who also died on that day.
"It's a sin what [fearmongers] are doing, making this about politics at the families' expense," McIlvaine adds. "It's producing hate, and it's the last thing this country needs right now." [Story]
Mr. McIlvaine, it's folks like you who makes us all realize that the terrorist lost that day. Sadly, if folks like Beck and company have their way, our victory will be short lived.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 246 of 246"by the way. After Fidel croaks and Raul makes a few changes, the biggest land boom of the 21st century will begin in Cuba.
Havana will be hot, hot, hot, and I will be there."
If Raul had any sense, he'd keep the American "venture capitalists" as far away from the country as humanly possible. I'd rather see Cuba align itself with the E.U. than see the same robber baron chumps who banked billions by strip-mining the U.S. economy do the same to Cuba. That will definitely insure that another Castro comes out of the midst to start another revolution.
mellaneous, you wrote:
Children living in the inner city don't for the most part get the same education of those living in the suburbs. That is a fact.
As someone with both NY City and suburban NY experience, I can you -- mellaneous -- you're full of crap.
Schools are only as good as the kids who attend them. Harvard is one of the world's top colleges because it only admits top students -- well, except for the black students who last year committed murder in a dorm.
Schools CANNOT overcome all the social pathologies kids bring to school with them. In the suburbs, the pathologies are relatively minor compared to those found in urban black life.
Thus, it's true that suburban OUTCOMES, on average, are better than OUTCOMES for blacks in a lot of city schools that house too many trouble-makers.
And so blaming the children when they don't start on equal footing to begin with is just plain foolish.
START on equal footing? All kids START at home. They all arrive in kindergarten as products of their homes. Therfore, you are at least unintentionally honest enough to recognize and admit that black kids are screwed by their bad domestic situations.
If this gov't spent as much money and dedicated the know how and technical resources on education as they do on defense and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq the problem would be solved and everybody knows it.
More nonsense from a nitwit. Last year NY City spent an average of over $17,000 per student to get subpar results.
But a breakdown of expenditures tells a lot. The FIVE top public high schools in NY City spent about $11,000 per student. But the schools attended by mostly black and hispanic students -- who account for 70% of the city's school population -- spent closer to $19,000 per student.
Why? Remedial work. Security. Tutoring. Extra services these kids need because they come to school with all their damaging pathologies. Services the students at the top schools do not need.
In other words, MONEY is NOT the answer.
Those children can learn and everybody knows it I don't care what family they were born into all of those children can learn if they and there parents were just given what they needed to thrive and survive.
Grow up. The history of blacks makes it painfully clear that education has NEVER been a priority.
You must be among the loonies who thinks if the conditions are right then learning simply happens.
It's work. Studying is work. Boring work at times. Becoming good at something takes a lot of labor and time.
But too many educrats have fooled too many people into thinking education is all about self-esteem. As though if you are feeling good about studying something as commercially worthless as black history, then you are doing all you need to do.
"children's "ritalin" is lucrative when sold to adults or taken by parents...
it calms children
but it works like a speed high in adults"
Feeding this crap to kids screws up their brain development and eventually puts them on a path where they need crap like Valium and Zoloft just to stay "functional". Or they "self-medicate" with whatever drugs provide them with that "leveling".
Damn. I told myself I wouldn't get too involved in the blog today. X_X
"It's work. Studying is work. Boring work at times. Becoming good at something takes a lot of labor and time.
But too many educrats have fooled too many people into thinking education is all about self-esteem. As though if you are feeling good about studying something as commercially worthless as black history, then you are doing all you need to do."
You're like a blind squirrel who finds an acorn, then promptly loses the damned thing and can't get it back again.
Studying is a good thing, but if all you do is study, then the only thing you become good at is rote memorization. Developing critical thought and expressing creativity are also part and parcel when it comes to the educational experience. Too bad so many people are caught up in teaching to a standardized test so the federal funds don't get cut.
ml:
we agree on that
children and adults in america are all GROSSLY overmedicated
but here is how the crazy check scam wks:
u coach your kid to garner ritalin
u never give it to him as he does not need it
u sell it
he gets a cut via toys/u via income...
no brain damage...just brain rot from misbehaving/misplacement in special ed with mostly rapid's demon spawn etc...
and ONLY the teacher and his academic record suffer
all other stakeholders win
see?
ie
all education and prevention
from academic genocide begins at home!
http://www.amazon.com/Keeping-Black-Boys-Special-Education/dp/0974900028
Cuba for idiots:
Where does money for Cuba originate?
As I said, the super special sweetheart deal for oil from Venezuela puts the Chavez regime near the top of the donor list.
Spain is big.
But huge amounts of dough flow into to Cubans from their family members in the US. That's called Remittance Money.
Moreover, it's hard to track all of it. Cuban-Americans with family in Cuba can go to the island whenever. The visitors carry cash for the clan.
Meanwhile, do you realize the Bacardi Rum company was a Cuban operation until Castro seized power and took the Bacardi land and distilleries?
Since then they've been operating out of Puerto Rico. But after the Castro regime collapses, families in Miami and others like the Bacardis will seek the return of their property just as Germans did in East Germany after the collapse of theSoviet Union.
Meanwhile, Canada had some mining and hotel operations in Cuba.
But as I said, the boneheads running Cuba can't find oil in the same water Americans find millions of barrels.
Why? One reason is the Castro regime does not trust Cubans on boats. Expecially boats with engines and gas tanks large enough to get the boats to America.
The last time anyone from Cuba went out fishing was in Hemingway's novel The Old Man and the Sea.
There's no fishing industry in Cuba because Fidel trusts no Cuban with a boat.
Mell, I must have gotten a knee jerk reaction when I saw "hot hot hot".
Lots of... um capitalist are always seeing "hot hot hot" when they buy up prime land, build million dollar homes and cause the property tax and land price to jack up where I live.
It must have reminded me about the other night when I cried myself to sleep because I had to back out of a loan I was going to get for a crumby sloped quart acre land that was priced at $138,000 (let me repeat, a crumby sloped quart acre land for $138k). Somebody need to form a damn revolution against these... um capitalist invading the USVI.
Ok I got it off my chest, now let me get back to lurking, or the topic on hand. It won't happen again... (clearing throat).
National Security plant NS I am surprised that AB doesn't take you to task for your overtly racist statements such as this one:
"The history of blacks makes it painfully clear that education has NEVER been a priority."
Actually National Security plant black folks have a very distinguished history when it comes to education.
Keep in mind that when we were enslaved in this country the slave owners made it illegal for blacks to get an education. But black folks found ways to get education against all odds .
When universal education for everyone was instituted it excluded blacks so what did they do? They formed their own schools.
In fact one of the most amazing feats of group literacy in history occurred after the end of slavery when tens of thousands of former slaves went to make shift freedmen schools and became literate.
Blacks formed schools when they were discouraged by the greater population. When blacks used the laws to make sure that there children could take advantage of free and universal education the system responded by underfunding and understaffing,and under resourcing their schools.
But black folks continued to find ways to get education against all odds. The historic Brown v Board of Education was all about getting a better education.
Black folks today this day strive to get their children the best education that they can, even though the children seem to be more distracted these days.
You see NO Slappz a quick overview of history proves again that you are a lyer and worse yet a racist lyer whose only reason for being on this blog is to spread these racist lies and to get the unsuspecting to think you know what you're talking about,when all you are doing is lying.
mack lyons, you wrote:
Studying is a good thing, but if all you do is study, then the only thing you become good at is rote memorization.
Hey bonehead, before anyone knows enough to qualify as knowledgeable in any single subject, he must memorize a lot of stuff.
If one wants to excel at a sport, one must practice the same moves over and over and over and over. Practice. Repeat. Practice. Repeat. Get it?
Meanwhile, try giving me an example of a job that depends on true creativity. Don't make the mistake of stating a job that depends on being DERIVATIVE is the same as being CREATIVE.
As in song lyrics. "Ooh wah, ooh wah" from which we can derive "ooh wah wah, ooh wah wah."
Developing critical thought and expressing creativity are also part and parcel when it comes to the educational experience.
Which industries are evolving most rapidly?
The Computer Industry is one. Have you any idea how much science and math a scientist or engineer needs to memorize before he know enough to add his two cents?
(let me repeat, a crumby sloped quart acre land for $138k). Somebody need to form a damn revolution against these... um capitalist invading the USVI.
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Does it come with gold?
LAA I feel you on that revolution thing. Too bad about having to give up your dream property it could always be a blessing in disguise. YOu never know about these things.
Speaking of lurking I hope you know that I am trying to pull everyone's coat about NO Slapz he is not a regular poster he is not even a troll he is too serious, he is really is some kind of a plant. Watch how consistently he makes sweeping and broad racist generalizations, its not like your regular racist but someone who knows better and is purposely spreading misinformation.
People are always complaining about AB smearing people but this guy is much worse. In fact I wish AB would get wise to what he is doing, talk about someone who deserves flaming.
How many blacks in Castro's leadership circle? Think Cuba is some heaven for blacks? Think again.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/12/09/cuba.us.race/index.html
http://www.miamiherald.com/multimedia/news/afrolatin/part4/index.html
National Security plant NS said:
Children living in the inner city don't for the most part get the same education of those living in the suburbs. That is a fact.
As someone with both NY City and suburban NY experience, I can you -- mellaneous -- you're full of crap.
Schools are only as good as the kids who attend them. Harvard is one of the world's top colleges because it only admits top students -- well, except for the black students who last year committed murder in a dorm.
NS you are a liar. It is obvious to everyone that the inner city education is not the same as the suburban. And I am not talking about elite public schools like Hunter or Frederick Douglass. I lived in NY and in the burbs of NJ so you are lying if you say there is no difference.
NS is still lying. But thats what he is paid to do which is why he hasn't gone away at all today.
What countries NS give Cuba money give us a source. Spain does not give Cuba money, Canada does not give Cuba money.
And do you lie about everything of course the Cubans fish.
NS is still lying and now he tried to say:
If this gov't spent as much money and dedicated the know how and technical resources on education as they do on defense and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq the problem would be solved and everybody knows it.
More nonsense from a nitwit. Last year NY City spent an average of over $17,000 per student to get subpar results.
But a breakdown of expenditures tells a lot. The FIVE top public high schools in NY City spent about $11,000 per student. But the schools attended by mostly black and hispanic students -- who account for 70% of the city's school population -- spent closer to $19,000 per student.
Why? Remedial work. Security. Tutoring. Extra services these kids need because they come to school with all their damaging pathologies. Services the students at the top schools do not need.
In other words, MONEY is NOT the answer.
Now who is the knit wit you just made my point of course they need more money spent on them because as you pointed out they are coming to school with more problems. So the logical thing to do is to deal with them so that they can indeed catch up.
And you know I am not surprised that you would call someone who is clearly intelligent a nitwit. You really are a racist aren't you it really is killing you that black folks can defend themselves and some are even smarter than you and see through your racist arguments.
mellaneous, apparently the entire history of the black race is what occurred in the US.
The way you describe things, there's no Africa and no black history before blacks were shipped from some unnamed place, perhaps another planet, to America.
But, just to refresh you, black Africa, when explored by whites, was primitive. As in, blacks could not read or write. had developed only simple tools and were still at the hunter-gatherer stage.
Here we are today, 500 years later, and black Africa is still primitive.
If you want to argue that blacks made some educational advances in the US, then you are admitting the advances occurred BECAUSE blacks were living in the US.
As we know, Africa is mostly a cesspool. A cesspool despite abundant natural resources.
Nigeria, with its oil, should be a wealthy country populated by prospering people. But it's a cesspool. Zimbabwe is about to collapse because Mugabe seized the property of white farmers and handed it over to incompetent black morons.
There is no national success story in Africa or anywhere else in the black world.
mell:
i do not believe that plants infiltrate blogs for free
those who seek to silence free speech on the net get paid to work for verizon/hobama etc
like cf, i actually agree with most of what ns is saying
he is the new cf...
carry on.
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e0f5faf8860f.html
ns:
as you bash africa
do recall that it has been raped and robbed by euros including americans for many centuries...
and said rape and robbery are being intensified via hobama to date
http://www.amazon.com/Europe-Underdeveloped-Africa-Walter-Rodney/dp/0882580965
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/obamas-africom-africon-the-new-african-mask-upon-the-new-world-order.html
mell:
ie
ALL teachers will lament the demise of great students with great parents
even at harvard and yale they lament high tech cheaters etc...
again
toxic parenting is a global ill that will ruin all academic spaces...
even in chicom asia which genereally rules all rigid family planning/parenting and academia for now...
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a4b05d71860c.html
alicia banks, you wrote:
do recall that it has been raped and robbed by euros including americans for many centuries...
Oh. Here's a news flash. If africans had gotten on the education bandwagon and developed organized societies with the help of various colonial powers, then many African nations would have realized a good part of their potential.
Instead, most people on the African continent have stuck to their primitive ways and gotten the expected results.
Thus we arrive at the term: Slow Learners.
and said rape and robbery are being intensified via hobama to date
The US has a very limited presence in Africa. As in the US, the raping and robbing among blacks is being perpetrated by blacks. Not a foreign agency.
ns:
study the ancient legacies of ethiopia, egpyt, and haiti
they still reign supreme as legendary african/black "success
stories"
fyi
ns:
the usa controls every foreign enclave as a fascist empire...
especially in africa
bone up!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/aids-evidence-evils-evasions.html/page/2/?locale=en
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a4af0298860c.html
There is enough blame to go around here. The usual suspects want to Muslim-bait, for all the usual reasons. But it is insensitive, to say the least, for Muslims to want to put a religious center next to the site of a monstrous crime committed in the name of that religion.
That all of this is an issue is evidence of a lack of common decency and respect all the way around. To me, it's no different than the Catholics who stuck a shrine near Auschwitz. Yup, I'm sure they're free to do it, but they ought to have been more than a little ashamed to do it, given that it was Christians, however twisted, who perpetrated the holocaust of the Jews.
alicia banks, you wrote:
study the ancient legacies of ethiopia, egpyt, and haiti
they still reign supreme as legendary african/black "success
stories"
Oh. Hey. Yeah. Big success stories.
Well that says it all. Haiti is one of the worst disasters in human history and you call it a success story. I guess you've redefined "success".
Thanks. I'll pass.
Over 200 years of Haitian independence, and the country is a ruin.
The only time it was close to stable was during the period -- 1920s-1930s -- when the US Marine Corps was running it. Otherwise, it's been a non-stop calamity.
Egypt? Another mess. But this time an arab muslim mess. The terrorist group known as the muslim brotherhood is once again gaining ground in Egypt. Spare me from that success.
Ethiopia, yeah, well, another mess.
anon 6:04, you wrote:
To me, it's no different than the Catholics who stuck a shrine near Auschwitz.
Hey bonehead, they DIDN'T DO IT.
The episode invovled the Carmelite nuns and when the concerns about their facility caused a stir, the Pope suggested to the nuns that they pick a new site. They did.
But muslims never act in ways that make sense to westerners. As they say, muslims never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
If the purpose of their proposed mosque is to improve interfaith relations -- as they claim -- then they should show their willingness to honor their claim by exhibiting some good faith and picking a new site.
But muslims don't do that. Why? Because there is no real desire to improve interfaith relations. This is another case of muslims exploiting American freedom to advance the anti-freedom goals of islam.
And from the Village Voice... a map of the "hallowed ground", photos of the neighborhood and commentary from other New Yorkers.... a different perspective than some on this blog...
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2010/08/dear_rest-of-am.php
no_slappz said..."But muslims don't do that. Why? Because there is no real desire to improve interfaith relations. This is another case of muslims exploiting American freedom to advance the anti-freedom goals of islam."
If Muslims are so enamored of "anti-freedom goals," why in the hell did we spend hundreds of billions of dollars of our national treasure, give more than 4,000 dead, and more than 30,000 injured in a military mission called "Operation Iraqi Freedom," to liberate millions of Muslims, a move to which you gave your stamp of approval?
And now that we've spent so much, given so much, to give Muslims a taste of freedom, we deny them that very same freedom here in the "land of the free, and the home of the brave"?
Way to go, America! I'm counting the days....
Mell, "thats me at at 3:22 the religous anon got me excited with that accusation of theirs."
I'm sorry about that, Mell. I seem to always have that effect on you. It must be the Spirit in me that touches you.:D
Mell, "Speaking of lurking I hope you know that I am trying to pull everyone's coat about NO Slapz he is not a regular poster he is not even a troll he is too serious, he is really is some kind of a plant. Watch how consistently he makes sweeping and broad racist generalizations, its not like your regular racist but someone who knows better and is purposely spreading misinformation."
Who do you think planted him? It has to be someone on this blog. It has to be one of the residents with IDs. Anons like to remain Anonymous. Plus anons lose their membership and health insurance if they post with an ID. I bet it's Granny.
jody, here's the idiocy from the Village Voice, a rag of a paper that will soon fold because it cannot get enough advertising revenue from call-girl services:
The point is, it isn't. What's more offensive: Having a....
"Ground Zero Burger King."
The BK was there before 9/11. Who knows if it will stay after the lease expires.
Memorial that's never happened because of hyper-capitalist conflicts.
Ah, the usual moronic claims from moronic journalists who do not realize the roadblock to rebuilding the Trade Center has been 100% government. World Trade Center Tower 7 was destroyed on 9/11. But it has been rebuilt and has been signing up tenants for two years because it is privately owned.
Bunch of tacky souvenir tables.
They can be found around the city. If the operators are violating laws -- and often they are -- the cops should drive them off.
Bunch of tacky souvenir tables that profit off of cheap, China-made 9-11 memorabilia.
See above.
Bunch of tacky souvenir tables that profit off of cheap, China-made 9-11 memorabilia when they're not selling fake Rolexes to the same Americans coming to New York, buying from them, going home, and telling New Yorkers where to put our Mosques.
Fake Rolexes? Near Ground Zero? No. The writer is a liar. On Canal Street several blocks north, yes.
or an Islamic Cultural Center with a 9/11 Memorial (more than what's actually been put to paper for an official 9/11 Memorial) two and a half blocks away?
Please. Muslims are not capable of creating a 9/11 memorial because they are not capable of admitting islams's central role in the terrorist attack.
Muslims are not Germans who have acknowledged Germany's deep commitment to hitler and nazism.
Muslims, as the vile imam of this proposed mosque has already said, believe the US was to blame for the attacks. Thus, we already know they will create some bizarre 9/11 memorial that deflects all blame from their hideous religion/government/military in the same way sharia law exonerates men from charges of rape but blames the woman.
Reminder: Muslims were victims of 9/11, too. Sorry, but it's true. And one was an NYPD cadet.
Yeah, and two days ago a muslim suicide bomber killed about 60 muslims at a recruiting station in Baghdad. In other words, muslims have contempt for evey life, but they hate non-muslims more than each other.
from the Village Voice:
Maybe we'll care what you have to say when you stop bothering us for directions in the subway on how to get to Ground Zero so you can go there and buy some dumb, tacky knickknack you can take home and give to friends to let them know that you spent money on a shake-a-snow where a few thousand people died.
This writer is a sneering contemptuous child, one of the reasons the Village Voice is on the brink of newspaper death.
Maybe then. But probably not. Shut up, go away, and also, stop lying, or at least tell your politicians to stop lying.
I guess he's ranting about Obama.
It might help you recognize the truth, which is that you're wrong, and you're attacking vital American freedoms by going against this Mosque.
Oh. This genius thinks exercising Freedom of Speech is an assault on the Freedom of Religion. If it were only an issue of Freedom of Religion, which it isn't.
The truth is that you're terrorists in your own right. You are striking against America by going against this mosque. You are, in effect, almost as bad as the ones who killed people on 9/11.
Oh. The genius is saying dissent is terrorism. He'd be right if he lived in Saudi Arabia or Iran. Speaking against the religion/government/militaries of those countries can get you killed.
Okay, not quite, not really, but kind of, because you're fighting against what 9/11 victims died for: religious freedom, which said terrorists don't have and don't want anyone else to have.
Ah, when morons attack. The VICTIMS of 9/11 did NOT die FOR religious freedom. They died because the US GUARANTEES religious freedom.
They inncoent victimes were savagely murdered because muslims HATE religious freedom.
They prove it daily.
By the way, why do American women support islam?
Islam -- you can read it in the Koran -- enslaves women, grants them no rights, condones genital mutilation, allows men the right to four wives, plus hookers whenever the urge strikes and permits the beating of wives.
Yes, I know, there's a lot of rough stuff in the Bible too. But the Bible is not the basis for laws governing anybody.
On the other hand, the Koran is considered the infallible word of the crazy muslim god and the word is the basis for islamic governments governing almost all 1.4 billion muslims on the planet.
Hence, when it comes to real life, the crazy proclamations of the nutcase muhammad are important. And dangerous to the health and welfare of women.
Oh. Did I forget honor killings? Yet another atrocity permitted by the religion/government/military of islam.
UTS, since you are very familiar with buck dancing I thought I'd let everyone know what you used to do with YOUR old college girlfriend, who happens to be in this video in the black dress. Man, you must have been a real Romeo during your day!
Don't let your wife see this. (Video provided courtesy of Anon, Inc):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJzMyZWDtbg
UTS, I didn't realize that you liked your wm so big and your bw so small! You are an weird bm. But you have the personality to be an anon agent...interested?
in that video, was that a big fat white woman? i thought such things didn't exist.
white people tripping up over themselves LOLLOLLOL.
Mack: There is no place in the Western Hemisphere worse than Haiti.
no slappz: "The genius is saying dissent is terrorism."
Didn't dissent use to be the "highest form of patriotism" ( a quote falsely attributed to Thomas Jefferson)when Bush was president?
Now somehow it's grounds for a firing squad.
Consistencty is not a liberal strong point.
Let me see.... because I oppose the "community center/mosque" I hate?
Isn't that just peachy... I thought it was because I am alarmed by certain comments made by the Imam building the mosque. I thought I was dismayed at the original name "Cordoba House" and it's historical significance. I thought I was concerned by the title of the Imams book and the "call to prayer from the rubble.... a Dah'wa Post 9-11".... Hummm...hate huh? Who knew?
ns:
arrogant ignorance trumps asinine evasions
ie
ethiopians slew the italians
haitians slew the french
egypt ruled all art and science...
and then the euro colonizers came robbed and never left
and they are still scheming and raping and robbing africa into oblivion and the hell you see now
fyi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ntpVbc3fKw
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/africa/index.html
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/unholy-ugliness-in-uganda-american-racists-pimp-homohating-africans.html
ns:
haiti has been taxed and robbed and punished into the ruin it is today
france and america ruined haiti
study that
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/unnatural-disasters-haiti-katrina.html?_c=feed-atom
Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment
By SALAH NASRAWI, Associated Press Writer – Thu Aug 19, 2010
CAIRO – A Saudi judge has asked several hospitals in the country whether they could damage a man's spinal cord as punishment after he was convicted of attacking another man with a cleaver and paralyzing him, the brother of the victim said Thursday.
Abdul-Aziz al-Mutairi, 22, was left paralyzed and subsequently lost a foot after a fight more than two years ago. He asked a judge in northwestern Tabuk province to impose an equivalent punishment on his attacker under Islamic law, his brother Khaled al-Mutairi told The Associated Press by telephone from there.
He said one of the hospitals, located in Tabuk, responded that it is possible to damage the spinal cord, but it added that the operation would have to be done at another more specialized facility. Saudi newspapers reported that a second hospital in the capital Riyadh declined, saying it could not inflict such harm.
A copy of the medical report from the King Khaled Hospital in Tabuk province obtained by the AP said the same injury al-Mutairi suffers from can be inflicted on his attacker using a nerve stimulant, and inducing the same injuries in the same locations. The report was dated six months ago.
Saudi Arabia enforces strict Islamic law and occasionally doles out punishments based on the ancient legal code of an eye-for-an-eye.
The query by the court, among the most unusual and extreme to have been made public in the kingdom, highlights the delicate attempt in Saudi Arabia to balance a push to modernize the country with interpretations of religious traditions that critics say are out of sync with a modern society.
The Saudi newspaper Okaz identified the judge as Saoud bin Suleiman al-Youssef.
The brother said the judge asked at least two hospitals for a medical opinion on whether surgeons could render the attacker's spinal cord nonfunctional. He and Saudi newspaper reports did not identify the attacker
"We are asking for our legal right under Islamic law," the brother said. "There is no better word than God's word — an eye for an eye."
Islamic law applied in Saudi Arabia allows defendants to ask for a similar punishment for harms inflicted on them. Cutting off the hands of thieves, for example, is common.
Under the law, the victim can receive a blood money to settle the case.
Khaled al-Mutairi said his family is not interested in blood money, and would be ready to send the attacker abroad to perform the operation if it were not possible in the kingdom.
Those who are sentenced to death are often not informed of the progress of legal proceedings against them or of the date of execution until the morning on which they are taken out and beheaded.
Crucifying the headless body in a public place is a way to set an example, according to the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islam.
Amnesty International expressed concerns over the reports and said the rights group was contacting Saudi authorities for details.
Chirouf said this was the first time Amnesty had heard of a punishment involving the damaging of a spinal cord.
"But it's hard to follow details of the Saudi justice system. People are sentenced in closed trials with no access to the public and no lawyers," he said.
According to Amnesty, in 2005, a convict in the kingdom had his teeth pulled out by a dentist because he had smashed another man's teeth out in a fight.
"We have also had cases of people sentenced to blindness because they have caused the blindness of another person," Chirouf said. "But never anything involving a spinal cord."
hey ns:
wake up!!!
Were it not for slavery and ruthless imperial exploitation, modern Europe and the United States - and global capitalism, itself - would not have existed. In that sense, all of the developed nations are fundamentally indebted to the formerly colonized world. But Haiti's bill includes a very explicit $17 billion directly extorted by France (and the U.S.).
It never ceases to amaze, how imperialists guilty of the most vile crimes ever committed by man have such thin skin. So it is with France, which has subjugated and murdered millions over the centuries, and owes its comfortable lifestyle to these victimized people of color around the globe, yet gets upset when called a thief and extortionist - the least of its multitudinous crimes.
http://blackagendareport.com/?q=content/france-us-must-pay-their-debt-haiti
For all of you Mosque lovers at 'ground zero', Miss USA, a MUSLIM has declared that the Mosque should not be built near ground zero.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/20/rima-fakih-muslim-miss-us_n_689463.html
Dave Rice said...
"Let me see.... because I oppose the "community center/mosque" I hate?"
If it's not about "hate," and this imam is as you and others say he is, why allow him to build a center anywhere in N.Y.?
"uptownsteve said...
"If you told my son and his friends that there is a "crisis" among black males, they'll look at you and laugh."
OLD ignorant fool proud of the young ones he created.
Though they need not be counted among the ranks, it is important that they should KNOW. Those that have been blessed and given much, have a greater responsibility. IF the blessed black males could GET THIS basic principle and STOP trying to preach to and control the women, turn their attention to the other MEN and get to work---American Blacks may be fit for survival after all.
Just an Observation...
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