Sunday, December 19, 2010

Dream on.


"The only thing that will stop you from fulfilling your dreams is you.”
~Tom Bradley~


You, as well as republi-clowns and wimpy dumb-ocratic poli-tricksters. They can kill your dreams as well. Especially if you are a child of immigrants.

How could someone block the path to citizenship for someone who has been in this country before they were 16 years old; lived in this country for at least five years; and served in the military or attended college? I thought these were exactly the types of immigrants we were looking for in this country.

The poor dumbocrats couldn't even hold their own together to get this done. Proving, once again, that some folks are dumbocrats in name only. I will give a pass to the republi-clowns, because I expect no better from them. They are who they are: Anti immigrant. Anti people. Anti progress. And, most important, short sighted.

"Americans love the underdog. Our culture is based upon coming from behind. We cheer the hero, who battles despite short odds, and defeats the bully. Republican Lindsey Graham was a bully in the Senate when he told students they were “wasting their time” because the most powerful country in the world had not sealed the border, so it was going to take it out on juvenile immigrants instead. He said they were playing a "Silly stupid game" aimed at turning Hispanics against Republicans, reported the SunTimes.com.

Clearly, after Republicans blocked hopes for comprehensive immigration reform for 2010, they could have saved the day by passing a token immigration bill called the Dream Act. Republicans refused, and launched a smear campaign against the Act, calling it Amnesty, something it clearly was not."

Lindsey, I hope that Hispanics remember how you republi-clowns reacted to this bill come election time.

"When it comes to immigration, our primary focus must remain on regaining the American people's trust by fully securing our borders that are threatened by emboldened and violent gangs, and fixing our broken immigration system," said Utah Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch, once a chief sponsor of the DREAM Act who now opposes the bill.

Senator, violent gang members are not in college or trying to serve in the military. But I am sure you don't care about that. You are too busy shoring up your ignorant bigoted base.




111 comments:

Mark said...

I'm disappointed that this didn't pass.

Wesley R said...

Field,

What a game! Part of the issue is about the Republicans continued efforts to limit who votes in the elections. The more people who vote the better it is for Democrats. The less people who vote it's to the Republicans advantage. The DREAM ACT would have helped bring more people to become citizens. Citizens who would vote and not for Repulicans or Teabaggers.

La♥audiobooks said...

Re: Your sidebar blog spotlight. That book "The Darkest Child" was off the chains. Excellent upbeat book from start to end, seriously. Unforgettable characters and wonderful story telling. I recommend to both men and women.


Btw, when North America starts to sink from all these non-black racist immigrants, I hope all the other countries deny most of you black kumayah American liberals from swimming to theirs.

I have a silly question. Do you people happen to have a limit as to how many of these immigrants will be allowed in this country one day?

PilotX said...

Opposing what they once stood for or even sponsored. How can anyone not see these folks are playing games? Damn, I sure hope the predictions about the GOP going away are true but not soon enough for my tastes. Let's hope they don't get the WH and senate in 2012 or we're all royally f'd.

field negro said...

"I have a silly question. Do you people happen to have a limit as to how many of these immigrants will be allowed in this country one day?"

No!

Anonymous said...

""When it comes to immigration, our primary focus must remain on regaining the American people's trust by fully securing our borders that are threatened by emboldened and violent gangs, and fixing our broken immigration system," said Utah Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch, once a chief sponsor of the DREAM Act who now opposes the bill."

I agree with the Senator. There is nothing wrong with securing our borders to make America as safe as possible. That is why most Americans will follow Arizona's lead, and not the dumbocrats who care nothing about the safety of America.

Anonymous said...

America has a history of its ownership taken from one group of immigrants by another group of immigrants.

The last immigrant group to usurp ownership is fearful of the inevitable.

Anonymous said...

Let's face the truth about our politics today. The only bill that gets passed are those approved by the Republicans. They are a powerful group, which the Dems are no match.

Nevertheless, I am glad the immigration bill was stopped...most Americans feel the same way.

La♥audiobooks said...

I asked: Do you people happen to have a limit as to how many of these immigrants will be allowed in this country one day?"

Field answered: No!"


Ok, another curious question for the black folk inclined. I already know you people don't give a dead cat for the African/Haitian immigrants (those who look like you). But, what about the 'white' illegal immigrants (Russians/Armenians, Romanians, Albanians, Canadians, etc) are they good and covered with you black folk too?

Do you also have a never ending limit for these groups under your protected illegal-immigrant kumbayah addiction? Or is it just a certain type of illegal (non-black) immigrants you specifically support invading America?

This is not a trick question.

Anonymous said...

Field, "Senator, violent gang members are not in college or trying to serve in the military. But I am sure you don't care about that. You are too busy shoring up your ignorant bigoted base."

What an ignorant bigoted thing to say about a Senator who is doing what he feels is the right thing to do. Just because he doesn't see things your way doesn't make him bad. This is America where people can have their own thoughts and not be forced into thinking like Mr. Field...thank goodness!

La♥audiobooks said...

And before anyone gets cute. I was born an American, and so were my parents and grand parent.


Thank you.

Anonymous said...

What's with the wench and the dumb questions tonight?

Geez

Anonymous said...

LAA, "Ok, another curious question for the black folk inclined. I already know you people don't give a dead cat for the African/Haitian immigrants (those who look like you). But, what about the 'white' illegal immigrants (Russians/Armenians, Romanians, Albanians, Canadians, etc) are they good and covered with you black folk too?

Do you also have a never ending limit for these groups under your protected illegal-immigrant kumbayah addiction? Or is it just a certain type of illegal (non-black) immigrants you specifically support invading America?"

You never stop calling out so-called Field Negroes on this blog out do you? That is VERY GOOD! It's good to know there ARE a few good Blacks who are concerned about Blacks who look like us.

Unfortunately, there are too few. so we might as well accept our lot in life in being last-and fight for other non-blacks. That way we have some sense of purpose and worth. Blacks are a lost race with little self-worth. That is the reality of most of the black race. It's quite sad, depressing and hopeless.

brohammas said...

At what point to we chisel that tablet out of Lady Liberty's hand?
Any protectionist/isolationist American who isn't and Indian, is in serious denial and waaay to entrenched in revisionist history.

It really is xenophobia.

Anonymous said...

Field, "You, as well as republi-clowns and wimpy dumb-ocratic poli-tricksters."

Field, You must be in the holiday spirit because your post is full of name calling insults. But if you look inside yourself, you'll see the 'clown' and 'wimp' is really coming from you.

Happy Holidays.

Anonymous said...

brohammas, "At what point to we chisel that tablet out of Lady Liberty's hand?
Any protectionist/isolationist American who isn't and Indian, is in serious denial and waaay to entrenched in revisionist history."

You want elaborate on your statement or are trying to emulate Hathor?

La♥audiobooks said...

Anony, thank you for also seeing into their hypocrisies. It amazes me how they are so selective with their liberalism. I am waiting for just one of them to declare they also support all those extremely foreign illegal white immigrants to come into America.

That will never happen. Supporting illegal immigrants who are 'white' is contrary to their belief. You see, supporting Latinos/Hispanics will um... help them fight the ebol republican white man.

In conclusion: This weird love for brown immigrants is all about self-hate and more personal assimilation preferences, as well as socking it to the ebol republican white men come election day. LOL.

Weird.

Good night,er.. Buenos Noches.

Anonymous said...

FN,

No comment on the stop-and-frisk judge article in the inky? I know the press takes the worst cases, but they didn't seem too close to me - since you are on the defense, I'd love your take on covered faces driving around the neighborhood with guns ... reasonable suspicion or not?

focusedpurpose said...

University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Center for Economic Development, the Black male (ages 16 to 64) joblessness rate (53.3%) is the highest ever recorded among working-age black males in Milwaukee - the second highest American city jobless rate after Detroit (59.5%).

Other metropolitan cities at incomprehensible levels include Buffalo, 52.3%; Cleveland, 52.3%; Chicago, 50.3% and Pittsburgh, 50.3%.

... if i make it about bm maybe folks will get it. it is interesting to note that the violence in these areas are through the roof as well.

IF you are here illegally and decide to have a few children, that DOES NOT mean you or your children should get to stay. when the child(ren) grow up they can come back to revisit the subject at that time.

it seems black folks haven't quite learned that the game includes moving forward to acquire education and resources that will afford the progression of the people collectively. smh. i suppose there hasn't been enough clues just yet and THAT'S how folks are content and kumbayaing up a storm.

now, i am not suggesting that the illegal brown folks alone be shown the exit- ALL illegals need to be shown the exit. i have personally looked to hire folks that were not legally able to be hired. had i hired THEM that would be one more out of work american.

the notion that illegals do jobs americans wouldn't want to do is absurd. if it comes down to starving or work, i think most would prefer to work. there are exceptions to this of course, but overall it is the rule.

but that's right, in certain folks' minds these other groups are "working with" them, not taking from them despite all the contrary evidence.

i told you about the mexican that thinks driving while black was a bfolk hallucination? i could tell you many more personal experiences that would lead me to believe standing up advocating folks be allowed to come over here and procreate like crazy and STAY is a bad idea. i have YET to see anything that would indicate anything otherwise. and for the record, where i live there are a grip of illegal armenians, jamaicans, haitians, africans, russians, jews, belizeans, etc. i think they ALL should go home and not just send the money they make here back. americans in this country need that money, ESPECIALLY black americans. now, if they can figure out how to sit in their countries and do business in america, sobeit.

self preservation is the first law of nature. maybe one day soon black folks will get that simple truth.

sidenote- there seems a new love of calling folks wenches. folks are coming REAL close to a full circle moment in their hatred of bw. throw bed in the mix and full circle will be complete.

it is of no great consequence. it is not what folks call you, but what you answer to; so carry on with the ignorance...

focusedpurpose said...

something else to consider-

yes, the original experiment allowed for folks to just keep on coming to america.

it was the civil (human) rights movement that opened the doors for all the colored folks to come. black americans would do well to keep this in mind.

additionally, black americans know first hand that sometimes it is best to change the original terms of the american experiment. why folks insist on getting brand new about this is something i will never understand.

Anonymous said...

FN .Why does it seem that leftists have no common sense and dont see how they are destroying their own lives? Illegal Aliens specifically means someone decided to brazenly break the laws designed to protect you as an american in terms of vetting out criminals, ensuring immigrants can contribute to society and wont just join the social aid rolls as so many already have. You as a lawyer don't believe in the process of law? What other groups should we just shelve the laws for? WHich other laws should we break for leftist morals? WHich ones do you like or is it just anything you think conservatives are for that you are against?

Are you aware that employment statistics were just released in regards to ILLEGAL aliens and the impact on jobs in the US?

In the April-May-June quarter, foreign-born workers in the U.S. gained 656,000 jobs. And native-born Americans lost 1.2 million.

From July 1, 2009, to June 30, 2010, foreign-born Hispanics gained 98,000 construction jobs. Native-born Hispanics lost 133,000. Black and white U.S. construction workers lost 511,000 jobs.

According to the Center for Immigration Studies, from Jan. 1, 2000, to Jan. 1, 2010, 13.1 million immigrants, legal and illegal, entered the United States, a decade in which America lost 1 million jobs.

From 2008 and 2009 - In 24 months, 2.4 million immigrants, legal and illegal, arrived, as U.S. citizens were losing 8.6 million jobs.

What in your mind makes you think that a broke country already supporting many, many unfortunate people and some just plain takers can just continue to have no immigration policy? Have you thought this through at all? The US is the only country in the world that has this issue. YOu know the laws in countries such as MEX would require you have lots of money and be able to support yourself,cannot own anything or you will be deported right?

Your father robbed a bank. So you get to keep the money when they find you years later? What kind of morality is this?

Illegals get to go ahead of millions of people who have applied and are waiting legally to enter the U.S? Where is the lawyer and fairness in you?

A group of people with a small house walk past your nice house and decide to move in because with your leftist theory they are entitled to your house, it is much better then the one they have after all. Once they are in they demand you take care of them and support them with your income (yes huge portions of tax dollars go to illegal aliens support) So do you feed the illegal aliens who demand you take care fo them because your house is nicer and go broke so you cant even feed your own family? This is precisely what leftists say. Only, I assume you expect someone else to keep paying the bill. All the while, we are BROKE. Lok at California, just about ready to under.

Really, I would like to know what you think of the specific points made above. If Illegals should be allowed to come here without any process of law. Then how will you manage the country and our limited (borrowed resources) ? And when can I move in to your house so you can pay my bills too?

Anonymous said...

LAA, "In conclusion: This weird love for brown immigrants is all about self-hate and more personal assimilation preferences, as well as socking it to the ebol republican white men come election day. LOL.

Weird."

Sometimes the truth is very difficult to admit. But you are right...it is weird. More specifically, Blacks are weird and do self-destructive weird things to themselves,- yet claim to be a people of worth, and intelligence. The words and behaviors of Blacks about ourselves rarely match...maybe during the time of MLK and Malcolm X, but that is long gone.

It's unbelievable what we are doing to ourselves and NOT even talking about it. Yep, it IS weird. Blacks are very strange in that they are almost 'inhumane' TO THEMSELVES...A CURSE TO THEMSELVES!

If Blacks are not for themselves, then who is for them?

I see no reason to be hopeful for the Black race...it is sad indeed. Who wants to be a part of such a prideless group?

Smashed The Tiny Black Box said...

How could someone block the path to citizenship for someone who has been in this country before they were 16 years old; lived in this country for at least five years; and served in the military or attended college?
That's the thing. Children of immigrants who do serve in the military usually get citizenship. College graduates are a dime a dozen. They can take their degrees back to their country of origin. Why should their parent's illegal choices entitle them to a hookup. That's what it is, a hookup. Right now,
Hatians, Kenyans, and countless other blacks world wide will be turned down for even a visa because the powers that be in the US do not want too many black people. I've seen students, turned down, professionals, rejected. Not citizenship, just initial travel. Don't tell me it doesn't happen, I've seen it.
Legal citizenship paths can last up to thirty years for an individual, and be made worse for family members.

Sorry, I tend to agree with LA's sentiments to an extent. I have lived as an foreigner in other countries for long periods of time. The sense of entitlement of the people who would support and benefit from the DREAM Act is outrageous. Do you realize what it would take for me to become a legal immigrant to their country in many cases? Out side of the immigrant community, no one takes your culture of origin into account.

The kids who started college and parents dropped them off here illegally...life's not fair. My priorities lie within my own community.

Lindsey, I hope that Hispanics remember how you republi-clowns reacted to this bill come election time.

Like anyone else who believes that lie and unrealitsically thinks that they will someday become the next Bill Gates...nothing is impossible, but the odds are against you...they won't remember a thing and vote against their interests.

Anonymous said...

FP, "sidenote- there seems a new love of calling folks wenches. folks are coming REAL close to a full circle moment in their hatred of bw. throw bed in the mix and full circle will be complete.

it is of no great consequence. it is not what folks call you, but what you answer to; so carry on with the ignorance..."

Some bm are like that. They will never change. To them to be a man is to dump on sisters. All kinds of degrading words of bw now comes naturally out of the mouths of many bm...esp HERE on FN blog. It is the nature of ALMOST all bm on this blog to call bw names. Hell, Stormfront couldn't do better. But if you strike back, bm like PilotX or Mellaneous want to talk about what bw SHOULD be doing to work together with the bm. I am still waiting for Mell to lash out at those bm who are degrading bw. Since I don't want to die yet, I won't hold my breath.

Most bm ARE 'completing the circle' because that is the nature of their character. They actually enjoy it and think highly of themselves. They are an ignoble sorry lot and a poor excuse for a human being, let alone a man.

I think there are BIG consequences, esp to bm who are doing the ignominious name calling and deeds. NO ONE can do that to another human being, esp. the feminine, without doing it to themselves. THEY are the ones who are the real asses. But what can you expect from ignoramuses without a moral compass and too dumb to learn? They might as well join the monkeys in the jungle.lol

Anonymous said...

Lindsey, I hope that Hispanics remember how you republi-clowns reacted to this bill come election time.



Aside from the Hispanic Rev Al Sharptons you would be surprised to know the majority of law abiding hispanics DONT WANT Illegal Aliens to get a free ride because they or thier relatives BROKE THE LAW OF THE UNITED STATES. They arent race baiters and dont align just by someone making law breaking a racial issue and shooting themselves in the foot as legal immigrants. Why should someone who has no respect for a nation of laws get to partake and I do mean partake in all of the wonderful handouts that hard working americans provide? Have you ever wondered why sanctuary cities and border states are all getting ready to file for bankruptcy and then when the checks stop who is going to support these people? Who gets the checks a needy black or someone who just crashed the border that has been working off the books for awhile while collecting, energy assitance, foodstamps, housing assistance and so on?? Who Field which one gets help? The american who needs it or the Illegal Alien who basically is stealing it?

Anonymous said...

anon, "Really, I would like to know what you think of the specific points made above. If Illegals should be allowed to come here without any process of law. Then how will you manage the country and our limited (borrowed resources) ? And when can I move in to your house so you can pay my bills too?"

Anon, it is not right that you should bombard Field with facts and reason. Afterall, he is a lawyer and we all know they know nothing about the law and facts.

I am still weighing which profession has the better deal:

Weathermen or lawyers. Both get a lot wrong but make great money. continue to keep their jobs. Can you think of any other job where you can be so wrong so often, get paid well, and still keep your job?

Anonymous said...

Field, you are a racist scumbag who doesn't give a damn about your country or your OWN race. This post has got to be your worst in terms of how your twisted stinkin thinkin operates. You should be ashamed of yourself, but you have never had a drop of shame or humility. You have a shameless guiltless character that has no idea of the right thing to do, even with the law staring you in your face. You are pathetic. Keep working for the city of Philly cause you could never make it as a lawyer on your own. I am sure your lawyer friends, if you have any, will attest to that.

Anonymous said...

Can you think of any other job where you can be so wrong so often, get paid well, and still keep your job?



Yup. One comes to mind right away. Progressive/Liberal Democratic politician. Decades of whacked out liberal programs have made things worse instead of better and all of us broke, yet they still keep spewing the insanity.

Anonymous said...

Anon, "Yup. One comes to mind right away. Progressive/Liberal Democratic politician. Decades of whacked out liberal programs have made things worse instead of better and all of us broke, yet they still keep spewing the insanity."

good point. But they are still incompetent lousy lawyers who call themselves prgressive/liberal political dumb crabs. In the political arena, practically every politician is a lawyer. that's why everything is so screwed up...very much like Field's post.

Zing said...

Secure the border, but allow stoop laborers to cross.

Secure the border, but ship American jobs to China.

Secure the border, but allow those with tons of our dollars to buy up America, and to do so without revealing who they are.

Secure the border, but allow U.S. banks to cleanse the money that the drug cartels raked in...money from those illegal drugs that managed conveniently to slip across our secure border.

Secure the border, but allow foreign money in to buy our debt, and to do so anonymously, if necessary, to fund tax cuts, two wars, and to keep our banks solvent.

Secure the border, but not too much. We have to keep it open, just enough, to allow our debt to slip through, money to flow in, and our American jobs to flow out.

I'm reminded that the red and the brown were here before the black and the white. In truth, whites are the illegal immigrants here, and blacks, well, we were given free passage over that took us hundreds of years to pay for.

At some point, we will all have to settle up. The time for recompense isn't that far off. Tides are either in our out.

Anonymous said...

Zing said...
Secure the border, but allow stoop laborers to cross. - Liberal Policies. Effective immediately all welfare and government program able bodied recipients will WORK in the feilds to earn thier keep. Imported cheap labor no longer necessary. Also, aid to ALL the countries in the world cut off. Amazing how the US is the most prosperous country in the world that still borrows to feed and take care of so many.

Secure the border, but ship American jobs to China. Liberal Policies - Force employers to pay and pay and pay regulatory fees, taxes, taxes and more taxes. Make it so the unskilled worker can make 30 dollars an hour to tighten a bolt. Then fight to ensure the foreign companies arent hit with import taxes so your favorite liberal lipstick is cheap.

Secure the border, but allow those with tons of our dollars to buy up America, and to do so without revealing who they are.
Liberal Policies - Because we dont want to be bigoted and should allow the same people who kill Americans in the name of thier religion to also buy up land right next to the biggest sympbol of this killing in history. 9/11 Ground Zero.

Secure the border, but allow U.S. banks to cleanse the money that the drug cartels raked in...money from those illegal drugs that managed conveniently to slip across our secure border. Liberal Policies all national security policies put into place by bush work. Only they AHEM discriminate against terrorist and illegal activities...better fight that..Liberals.

Secure the border, but allow foreign money in to buy our debt, and to do so anonymously, if necessary, to fund tax cuts, two wars, and to keep our banks solvent. 1000% liberals. If they werent buying your vote and keeping you enslaved living off the nanny teat then there wouldnt be any debt. As for tax cuts. Allowing people who create and earn money for themselves and this economy will surely escape you as it does most liberals. But it is their money. Go ahead tax them more to pay for your lifestyle, go ahead. Then go back to all the other points earlier on that you caused. Besides, this is america. You arent forced to live off someone elses creation by taking it from them by force. You could always earn or create your own and or go to your home country now!!

Secure the border, but not too much. We have to keep it open, just enough, to allow our debt to slip through, money to flow in, and our American jobs to flow out.

Liberal nonsense. Pure gibberish. Means absolutely nothing without listing the main cause/liberal policies.

I'm reminded that the red and the brown were here before the black and the white. In truth, whites are the illegal immigrants here, and blacks, well, we were given free passage over that took us hundreds of years to pay for.

At some point, we will all have to settle up. The time for recompense isn't that far off. Tides are either in our out.


What a empty bunch of words liberals write. You clearly have no idea of cause and effect or how the world works. OK cool. So we open the borders and anyone who wants in and a check gets it. Now what do you do with all the people out of work? You dont get to be an irresponsible immature liberal. What now? .You get your way, what happens now?
so all Americans leave except the red and the brown go back to Mexico. Then everyone goes back to thier ancestors country. Whites to EU, Latinos to Latin American countries etc. Blacks to Africa - Muslims will be included as they too go back to their home countries. Have a nice life.
Dumbass irresponsible children who spout nonsense rhetoric and offer not one wit of solution or reality to the problem. But do condemn anyone actually doing somethign about it. Leftist thinking is just plain petulant children minded.
2:23 AM

Anonymous said...

How many liberals does it take to change a light bulb?

A: 10

#1 One to Blame the Republicans.

#2 One to hire illegal aliens to actually change the bulb, to make themselves feel good that they are helping the poor.

#3 One to go over the union by-laws to determine if they can employ illegals without disenfranchising minorities.

#4 One to hire a press conferance to stage a fake commercial about how Republicans are forcing illegals to do menial labor because they won't, show casing an anorexic ethopian struggling to climb a ladder with four malnourished infants on her back, claiming .."bush does nothing to help and ignores those in need "

#5 One to protest the use of electricity which comes from fossil fuels, making the lightbulb an evil republican global domination tool, and vow to raise taxes all SUV drivers for supporting terrorist, by buying gasoline and deisel

#6 One to hire Sandy Berger to shove secret documents , down his pants detailing how it was actually democrats that blew out the light bulb in the first place

#7 One to get lawyers to sue Bush for pain and suffering and lost productivity during the now National "Blackout" scandal, and start a fundraiser for helping morbidly obese fat women buy meat, and get free transportation, to the welfare office, and legislate God out of all schools and gov't buildings, because it isn't supportive of Islamic concerns.

#8 One to get Dan Rather to produce forged documents, by the Bush's kindergarten teacher, detailing how Bush, had ignored the signs of impending light bulb blackout syndrome, and so failed to prevent the people from evacuating New Orleans after he caused the hurricane to intensify by not signing the Kyoto treaty.

#9 One to get Al Gore to blame Republicans for global warming due to the waste heat produced by the excessive use of non green light bulbs produced by some company he dosen't have stock in , and campaign against drilling and nuclear power.

#10 One to go on another press conference to rebutt the Republicans claims, and accuse them of denial of the plight of madagascar millipedes for stating..."It's just a fricken light bulb, get off your lazy butt and change it yourself"

and just to be over productive...#11 three hundred more to evaluate the enviromental impact on the polar bears, and some obscure bacteria that lives only in south american caves filled with hydrogen sulfide.

This would be funny, but it's all too true.

Shady_Grady said...

You can't reward people that broke the law. They are not citizens of this country and should return to their home countries.

If people want to come live in the US, do it the right way. The US takes in more than a MILLION new legal immigrants each year-more than any country in the world-too many as far as I'm concerned-but there you go. The largest flow of legal immigration to the United States is from one country.

The US is not required to grant citizenship to illegals no matter how much of a fuss they make. They (or their parents) broke the law and the proper remedy is deportation.

The US, like every other country, is perfectly entitled to set up rules and limits as to who is allowed to enter and reside. This should not be controversial.

As far as the race issue it doesn't matter to me where you came from , if you're here illegally , go home. That said if these were illegal Haitians, other Black Carribbeans, Black Africans or the like this proposed Dream Act never wouldn't have gotten this far.

Bringing in more immigrants to compete for rare jobs, displace American workers and bring down wages doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me at a time of 10% unemployment. And it makes even less sense to reward those who did it illegally.

Zing said...

Anonymous said...
Zing said...

I got under you skin I see. We liberals have a way of doing that.

When you have the courage of your convictions to step out of the shadows of anonymity, and give yourself a handle to distinguish yourself from the all the other anonnies, then perhaps I'll reply to your rants--mostly borrowed I see.

I would like once to see one Republican have an original thought...have an argument that's cogent, that speaks to the real issues of the day, rather than the claptrap that I'm usually presented with.

You will forever justify your own demise, and call it reason. Happily, your days are numbered.

For those that still don't get it...we're the illegals.

Mack Lyons said...

"YOu know the laws in countries such as MEX would require you have lots of money and be able to support yourself,cannot own anything or you will be deported right? "

Which makes the U.S. rather unique, in as anyone can come here with only the clothes on their back and in a short amount of time, become wealthy enough to give themselves and their children comfortable lives. The prospect of exploiting illegal immigrants as a source of cheap labor prevents Repugnicans from enacting an asset requirement (i.e. you have to make $XXXXX per year, have $XXXXX in savings as a "bond" of sorts and already have a steady job lined up here before coming). If Black folk would only return to being a source of cheap, menial labor, maybe this immigration nonsense can be straightened out!

"Ok, another curious question for the black folk inclined. I already know you people don't give a dead cat for the African/Haitian immigrants (those who look like you). But, what about the 'white' illegal immigrants (Russians/Armenians, Romanians, Albanians, Canadians, etc) are they good and covered with you black folk too?"

The above question is designed to trap Blacks who've expressed support for Latino immigrants in a Catch-22 of sorts. If you love those brown people so much, not only must you hate your black bretheren (since you're "putting brown interests above black"), but you must also love the white immigrants who definitely care nothing of you.

In other words, it's a question that assumes one must 1)subconciously hate blacks (and their own selves since they too are black) and 2)support for Latinos is a zero-sum game, since you obliviously hate blacks, otherwise you'd support Black interests and shun Latino ones. It's the "every motherfucker for his/her race" logic. Stormfronters would be amused.

BTW, it's the U.S. immigration policies that favor Cuban immigrants over Haitians that you should be pissed over. It's real shitty - Cubans are welcomed with open arms when they come over in tubes and Haitians get sent right the fuck back when they come over the same way. Lot of politics involved, plus a general dislike of Blacks with a history of not kowing down to foreign powers.

"Do you also have a never ending limit for these groups under your protected illegal-immigrant kumbayah addiction? Or is it just a certain type of illegal (non-black) immigrants you specifically support invading America?"

I sure the Field can answer this one, but it's a lot like the above question. Just saying.

Mack Lyons said...

"Unfortunately, there are too few. so we might as well accept our lot in life in being last-and fight for other non-blacks. That way we have some sense of purpose and worth. Blacks are a lost race with little self-worth. That is the reality of most of the black race. It's quite sad, depressing and hopeless."

If you genuinely believe that about your own race, then you're gonna need all the Prozac and liquor you can get. Hell, you can just do the Powers That Be™ a favor and just take yourself off of this ol' Earth. One less Nigger on the planet is always a good deal for them.

"That will never happen. Supporting illegal immigrants who are 'white' is contrary to their belief. You see, supporting Latinos/Hispanics will um... help them fight the ebol republican white man.

In conclusion: This weird love for brown immigrants is all about self-hate and more personal assimilation preferences, as well as socking it to the ebol republican white men come election day. LOL."


Empathy.

Blacks have too much empathy for other races they see going through the same struggles as they are. Therefore, they're inclined to give them a helping hand, or at least some sort of support. Meanwhile, Blacks see each other as too..."funky"...to give a helping hand to, because their fellow Blacks will either squander the opportunity or repay them with some sort of hurtful act (let a brutha bunk in for the night, wake up to your flat screen gone in the morning).

If only Blacks could be as coldhearted as Whites are to immigrant groups in most cases. Say, if we managed to kill that little bit of empathy we have as a people, would that really make us "lost"?

uptownsteve said...

LAA FPP

Can either of you show the board a specific instance where hispanics have taken something from blacks or cost blacks jobs?

What does immigration have to do with or affect the black struggle in any way?

uptownsteve said...

"You never stop calling out so-called Field Negroes on this blog out do you? That is VERY GOOD! It's good to know there ARE a few good Blacks who are concerned about Blacks who look like us."

Oh puh-leeze.

You negroes are rotting from the inside with self-hatred and contempt for your own blood.

It's pretty damn sad.

uptownsteve said...

LAA


"That will never happen. Supporting illegal immigrants who are 'white' is contrary to their belief. You see, supporting Latinos/Hispanics will um... help them fight the ebol republican white man."

LAA, you're starting to sound totally insane.

This is a nation of immigrants. All these Italians, Poles, Ukrainians, Irish and Greeks who now call themselves Americans did not come over on the Mayflower.

They hypocrisy is that when the immigrants were white the slogan was "Give us your tired, poor huddled masses yearning to be free."

Now that the immigrants are overwhelmingly black and brown, the slogan is "Close the borders. Save America."

So now it sounds like you're making the additional leap from bm-hating protofemme to black conservative.

Good luck with that.

Most of them (male and female) marry white folks.

Desertflower said...

La♥audiobooks said...
Re: Your sidebar blog spotlight. That book "The Darkest Child" was off the chains. Excellent upbeat book from start to end, seriously. Unforgettable characters and wonderful story telling. I recommend to both men and women.

Yes indeed! A wonderful read! Thank you Mr Field for recommending this blog!

As for immigration, my thoughts are that after Ellis Island when they saw how expensive it was to check in immigrants the legal way.
http://www.history.com/topics/ellis-island
Being the enterprising folks they are, decided "we'll let them sneak in illegal, at their own risk, and on top of that tell them we don't want them, persecute them, but of course, on the down low, hire them to do all the dirty work" Genius no?

Anonymous said...

I am glad this did not pass. Do not reward anyone who breaks the law. It doesn't matter how old you are/were. Your parents are responsible, not the amerikkkan people. It's not that we don't want you, but that you must follow our laws in order to live here.

We need to enact mirror laws for trade, immigration, and every thing else.

As for joining the military as a path to citizenship, you run the risk of creating a mercenary force that you have no control over......

Anonymous said...

Mack Lyons said...
"YOu know the laws in countries such as MEX would require you have lots of money and be able to support yourself,cannot own anything or you will be deported right? "

Which makes the U.S. rather unique, in as anyone can come here with only the clothes on their back and in a short amount of time, become wealthy enough to give themselves and their children comfortable lives. The prospect of exploiting illegal immigrants as a source of cheap labor prevents Repugnicans from enacting an asset requirement (i.e. you have to make $XXXXX per year, have $XXXXX in savings as a "bond" of sorts and already have a steady job lined up here before coming). If Black folk would only return to being a source of cheap, menial labor, maybe this immigration nonsense can be straightened out


Hey Mack, Set Up Straw Arguments much? The only one who even thinks this shit is the little voice in your head. I guess the real questions were just WAY to hard for you to deal with so you have to throw in some reference to slavery. You forgot your script, you were supposed to name call first and then talk about racism. Oh wait you did have the obligatory "republicans" in there.

So, So Sad.

ZingsDaddy said...

Zing said...
Anonymous said...
Zing said...

I got under you skin I see. We liberals have a way of doing that.

Not Really. We don't expect much from Petulant Selfish avoid reality Children. I know you are aware of this.

When you have the courage of your convictions to step out of the shadows of anonymity, and give yourself a handle to distinguish yourself from the all the other anonnies, then perhaps I'll reply to your rants--mostly borrowed I see.


Liberal Response Step number one. Totally ignore all of the difficult points made that you cannot answer without having your head explode from trying to understand reality and logic. So start obsfucating and make excuses and blame the person you are debating for some imagined character flaw. Yes. When I am completely properly named in your book only then will you have the courage to reply. UH-HUH yes. You must be so outraged that you cant name an anonymous person on an anonymous Blog, yeah we buy that. Tell me are you married? how is Mrs ZING? Or is ZING your first name. Just call me Daddy from here on in if it helps your liberal logic circuits function some how and complete at least one loop.

I would like once to see one Republican have an original thought...have an argument that's cogent, that speaks to the real issues of the day, rather than the claptrap that I'm usually presented with.

Are you kidding me? You literally qoute Rachel Maddow verbatim and then have the total balls to say that the very responses you are avoiding and are to weak minded to answer are unoriginal? Did you ever think they sound familiar because you use the precise same talking points over and over again?

When your daddy tells you that you did something wrong and you were punished, do you tell him. NO, you always say that when I get caught doing something wrong, so nana-nana-neeneers it doesnt count? Immmmmmmmmmmmmmmm not listening........Nana-Nana-liberal weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenies.

You will forever justify your own demise, and call it reason. Happily, your days are numbered.

No, Tim Wise. We arent talking about your racism and hatred towards other races. We are talking about ILLEGAL immigration. But trust me when I say this as you are to feeble minded to get it. If my kind does die. WHo will feed you? Do you really think you and your kind can actually support and run the nation when your present occupation of being a taker is turned and you are required to create and make enough to support YOUR KIND? Liberals that is. Your day is actually coming quicker then you know. Many states are on the verge of bankruptcy because of your failed infantile beliefs. Hope you are ready.

For those that still don't get it...we're the illegals

Yeah, another brilliant liberal rhetorical nonsensical statement that does nothing but show how useless you are. So answer some of the points. If we are all illegals what do you profess we do at this very difficult point in the country? Have Open Borders and start issuing checks to everyone?
Tell me? Daddy wants to know your thoughts there Zinger Left Winger.

But if you do answer, see if you can leave out the useless leftist talking points. They dont add any value to a discussion or bring any type of solution. Unless you as a strong leader are volunteering to go back to your home country as an ILLEGAL Alien. For thats what a leader does, take action while someone like you follows then complains and says I didnt get enough of what YOU Created.

Anonymous said...

Ummm...the Merican elites have been importing cheap labour since before the Revolution.
When I hear wingnuts claim that Mericans won't do the jobs...I can pull out old photos and point out all the employees were Mericans. I also know folks who used to work in the landscaping and restaurant biz...they had to leave because the owners would hire illegals at a far lower wage.
Instead of demonizing those who left the School Of Americas handiwork in their lands...we should imprison any business owner who hires illegals. The fines should also be high enough to give the business class nightmares.
Most of the illegals left because wingnuts and neo-cons wanted to make the countries Randian Paradises.
Uptownsteve, there has been a nativist train of thought in the US, since there has been a US.
FakeAnon of 1012am....seems your dreams of endless 'Georges' to work for nothing has been outed. How about dealing with Facts and cease being racist?

Mold

Anonymous said...

Love how wingnuts assume they be Daddy.
Methinks their dream is to be Lot, just outta the evilbigcity.

Mold

IamNotYourDaddy said...

Anonymous said...
Love how wingnuts assume they be Daddy.
Methinks their dream is to be Lot, just outta the evilbigcity.

Mold



Could you pass on your idiocracy translater please. This didnt make much sense. Unless you are talking biblical terms such as Job and Lot? Which would be startling considering you are a leftist and should be an atheist. By the code of the leftie that is.

Trust me, right wingers dont want to be anyones daddy or have the responsibilities of taking care of you and picking up after you like a child . So lets make that happen shall we.

IamNotYourDaddy said...

....seems your dreams of endless 'Georges' to work for nothing has been outed. How about dealing with Facts and cease being racist?

Mold



I shouldnt answer this, your obviously not playing with a full deck and dont have the intelligence or reading comprehension to understand what the words said. But, Illegal is not a race. Illegal is the action of breaking a law. The one who ignored the facts was somone else who tried to bring in slavery into a discussion on legality in order to ignore the hard facts and failed.

I suppose even with this explanation you still wont get it, but I tried.

Anonymous said...

Some of these anons have daddy complexes. What's wrong anons? Daddy didn't love you enough? Or maybe he loved you a lil too much? Go back to touching yourselves at night, you fucking failures.

Mack Lyons said...

"Hey Mack, Set Up Straw Arguments much? The only one who even thinks this shit is the little voice in your head. I guess the real questions were just WAY to hard for you to deal with so you have to throw in some reference to slavery. You forgot your script, you were supposed to name call first and then talk about racism. Oh wait you did have the obligatory "republicans" in there."

I guess it was too hard for you to come up with a decent argument. Let me know when you find one.

With love,
Mack

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Some of these anons have daddy complexes. What's wrong anons? Daddy didn't love you enough? Or maybe he loved you a lil too much? Go back to touching yourselves at night, you fucking failures.


Daddy, touches you at night? So this is what happened to you. I get it know and also understand whys youse walks so dam funnies.
We dont want to be your parents anymore, get it?

Anonymous said...

i wouldn't mind fp and laa callin me daddy though. Good thing i'm white lol!

Anonymous said...

Projection much 11:12am? Good thing I threw back the covers on your daddy complex so you can go get that worked out. America's problem is the GOP acting like Mommy Dearest parents! No more wire hangers, you son of a bitch!

Anonymous said...

I guess it was too hard for you to come up with a decent argument. Let me know when you find one.

With love,
Mack



Cmon Mack, you arent really that weak are you? YOu set up a completely false straw argument, then when called on it. Come back with saying that I did? How ridiculous. Want me to repost the specific points that you would need to answer without deviating into any nonsensical comparison to slavery or could you simply just read them as they are already very clearly there?

Real simple. Check Arizonas law on illegal immigration (literal copy of federal law) and who is opposing it and why. It certainly isnt republicans. They want strong employer sanctions and to remove illegals from the governement handout doles. Who is fighting this with an outrageous lie? Leftists such as Eric Holder claiming that the states who pay the bill and live the price dont have the authority to enforce federal law that they are NOT enforcing. Now if that isnt crazy what is? So what do you say to that?

While you are at it. Lets look at how unfettered Illegal Immigration is working for California.


http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/255320/two-californias-victor-davis-hanson?page=1

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Projection much 11:12am? Good thing I threw back the covers on your daddy complex so you can go get that worked out. America's problem is the GOP acting like Mommy Dearest parents! No more wire hangers, you son of a bitch


Yeah.....uusseee is just so durn smurt. You gots it. WOw that is so witty. Mummy dearest. Well, you could always run away from home and find someone else to take care of you wittle child. It never even occurred to me to bring in parental abuse to a discussion on Illegal Immigration, but then again, leftists will always talk about what they know best now wont they. WHo your daddy? Well It aint me there bubba.

Anonymous said...

Hey, WAKE UP

What are you guys doing on here? You should be out protesting racist Guatemala. They just declared a "state of siege against Mexicans over-running their borders and taking over a city for drug trafficking. Damn those racist Guatemalans. To think amnesty international filed a human rights violation against Mexico for rape and torture of Guatemalen immigrants in Mexico before they deported them and this is how they repay the Free wonderful prosperous society of Mexico?

I mean Mexico is wonderful right? All the students who are fighting to stay in the US with the dream act do nothing but trash the US over Mexico, fly Mexican Flags and stomp on US flags. Yet they want to stay here and dont say anything about why they left and are crying that they may have to go back to the country they love (Mexico) but cant stay in the country they hate -The U.S. Hmmmmm. something is just not right.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704862604576030093277276336.html

Anonymous said...

Lot was correct.
Rather than repeat talking points without the barest whisper of thought...ask why a corporatist like Holder would want cheap, cheap Central and South American labour to continue entering the US?
'George' was the term applied to AfAm porters of Pullman railway cars. Wites thought it hi-larious to call every porter 'George'...because they could. Denial is not the same as proof. At least with thinking adults.

Mold

chicago dyke said...

actually, a friend of mine close to the gang communities in Chicago tells me that quite a few members are joining the military. that's a whole 'nuther discussion, but i thought i'd just share it with you, FN. fwiw.

Mack Lyons said...

"Cmon Mack, you arent really that weak are you? YOu set up a completely false straw argument, then when called on it. Come back with saying that I did? How ridiculous."

How come you believe what I said to be a "straw argument"? Because you can't come up with a retort to it? Countries like Australia already have requirements that you have to have some $$$ to bring along if you choose to immigrate there, and Mexico forbids foreigners from owning property outright. The U.S. could go the same route if it didn't mind losing the dirt-cheap immigrant labor pool by doing so.

"Real simple. Check Arizonas law on illegal immigration (literal copy of federal law) and who is opposing it and why. It certainly isnt republicans. They want strong employer sanctions and to remove illegals from the governement handout doles. Who is fighting this with an outrageous lie? Leftists such as Eric Holder claiming that the states who pay the bill and live the price dont have the authority to enforce federal law that they are NOT enforcing. Now if that isnt crazy what is? So what do you say to that? "

This.

And those employer sanctions, how tough are they? Are there any loopholes that one can drive a truck through? I know most companies don't directly hire illegals -- they use temp agencies instead, and those companies hire illegals for staffing at other venues.

"Want me to repost the specific points that you would need to answer without deviating into any nonsensical comparison to slavery..."

I was thinking of how Whites wouldn't mind Blacks returning to menial job positions and economic opportunities that availed them pre-Civil Rights, especially in lieu of cheap Latino labor. But go ahead and hitch the argument up to "slavery". It just intrigues me how Whites go to such great lengths to disregard slavery. True, it was long in the past, but it's still a part of American history, no matter how odious it was. And it still leaves a psychological mark on the American public, one which has manifested itself in a variety of ways.

chicago dyke said...

IF you are here illegally and decide to have a few children, that DOES NOT mean you or your children should get to stay. when the child(ren) grow up they can come back to revisit the subject at that time.

i take your point about how sometimes changes in the original experiment need to be made, but what you're advocating here is changing the constitution. it's pretty clear: if you're born here, you're an american, period. remember why that amendment came about: to make sure ex-slaves, black ex-slaves in particular, had the full rights of citizens. do you really think that if the right wing in this country is successful and bans the natural born rights to the children of the undocumented, they'll stop there? it is obvious racism that drives their movement, as well as greed. the greed that allows them to look the other way as their corporate buddies hire the undocumented at near-slave wages?

think about it. and who would next be deprived of constitutional rights.

Anonymous said...

" chicago dyke said...
actually, a friend of mine close to the gang communities in Chicago tells me that quite a few members are joining the military. that's a whole 'nuther discussion, but i thought i'd just share it with you, FN. fwiw.

11:55 AM"


I've heard the same thing from a military recruiter I know. Maybe it will help straighten out some of their lives.

The least one can hope is that the military will be able to teach them to shoot straight, so they won't be hitting so many innocent bystanders when they get back.

Anonymous said...

How come you believe what I said to be a "straw argument"? Because you can't come up with a retort to it?

Mack, because curbing Illegal immigration isnt about " returning blacks to menial labor" thats outrageous. Its about "curbing illegal immigration and allowing Americans of any race to CHOOSE to work. Your thoughts mean that we have to allow Illegals to come in and take jobs in order to ensure Blacks dont have to perform menial labor. Thats self defeating, when so many Blacks and Whites and Latino Americans are UNEMPLOYED.

I agree 100% with you that the laws already on the books describing someone who is eligible to come to the US includes the ability to be financially independant. In fact these laws are on the books with someone having either good job skills or a relative being responsible. HOWever, LIberals dont want these enforced and it all becomes moot when the Illegal Aliens invade the country Illegally anyway doesnt it.

It just intrigues me how Whites go to such great lengths to disregard slavery. True, it was long in the past, but it's still a part of American history,

No one is disregarding slavery. Only to bring it up in a discussion that shouldnt be denigrated into a racial thing is not conducive to any type of solution. Its simply law, economics and what a country can support irregardless of race. Whats the point of trying to infer that the white man is bad for opposing illegal immigration in that he wants Blacks to return to slavery or cheap labor. Thats quite silly if you ask me. We are discussing how the Illegal Alien invasion is draining the US coffers (filled by all races) If you really want to get silly then the "white enemy" should encourage illegal immigration if they want to further disenfranchise Blacks. For after all once Illegals hold the majority of jobs as is happening right now with an ever increasing Black and White unemployment rate, yet job gains by Illegals. Who really suffers?

I say to you, this racism bullshit has to stop. I dont know of any whites who plot and plan to keep Black people down by fighting Illegal Immigration and Illegal Immigration isnt about Blacks are for it and whites are not. The Majority of this country is against Illegal Aliens as it directly impacts their opportunities and Is blatantly against the law for very, very good reasons. This majority is Blacks, Whites, Latins, Asians and so on. The only dividing group is liberals. The minority of liberals in this country always seem to defy logic and common sense of actually making somethign work and denigrate into "ism's"

Someone breaking the law should not get put ahead of the line for millions of other people and actually paid and coddled for it. Nor should their race or country of origin matter at all. It is crazy and unsustainable and not at all about race.

As for the little article you posted on Racial Profiling. Ridiculous lefty nonsense. Illegal isnt a race, it isnt about racism. It is about violating the laws and protecting the citizens and residents of the USA against foreign invasion and resource gobbling.

So to sum up. Its irrational to try and charge law promoting citizens with racism for opposing illegal immigration in that you suppose they just want Blacks to handle the menial labor. People of all races who are unemployed wouldnt mind handling the menial labor such as construction, warehousing, PC firms, factories, if they could only get the jobs.

So when you bring up slavery in a place it doesnt belong, dont go back and say people are denying it and dont want to hear about it. It has nothing to do with the issue no matter how hard you try and invoke the sacred tattered race card.

Anonymous said...

How come you believe what I said to be a "straw argument"? Because you can't come up with a retort to it?

Mack, because curbing Illegal immigration isnt about " returning blacks to menial labor" thats outrageous. Its about "curbing illegal immigration and allowing Americans of any race to CHOOSE to work. Your thoughts mean that we have to allow Illegals to come in and take jobs in order to ensure Blacks dont have to perform menial labor. Thats self defeating, when so many Blacks and Whites and Latino Americans are UNEMPLOYED.

I agree 100% with you that the laws already on the books describing someone who is eligible to come to the US includes the ability to be financially independant. In fact these laws are on the books with someone having either good job skills or a relative being responsible. HOWever, LIberals dont want these enforced and it all becomes moot when the Illegal Aliens invade the country Illegally anyway doesnt it.

It just intrigues me how Whites go to such great lengths to disregard slavery. True, it was long in the past, but it's still a part of American history,

No one is disregarding slavery. Only to bring it up in a discussion that shouldnt be denigrated into a racial thing is not conducive to any type of solution. Its simply law, economics and what a country can support irregardless of race. Whats the point of trying to infer that the white man is bad for opposing illegal immigration in that he wants Blacks to return to slavery or cheap labor. Thats quite silly if you ask me. We are discussing how the Illegal Alien invasion is draining the US coffers (filled by all races) If you really want to get silly then the "white enemy" should encourage illegal immigration if they want to further disenfranchise Blacks. For after all once Illegals hold the majority of jobs as is happening right now with an ever increasing Black and White unemployment rate, yet job gains by Illegals. Who really suffers?

I say to you, this racism bullshit has to stop. I dont know of any whites who plot and plan to keep Black people down by fighting Illegal Immigration and Illegal Immigration isnt about Blacks are for it and whites are not. The Majority of this country is against Illegal Aliens as it directly impacts their opportunities and Is blatantly against the law for very, very good reasons. This majority is Blacks, Whites, Latins, Asians and so on. The only dividing group is liberals. The minority of liberals in this country always seem to defy logic and common sense of actually making somethign work and denigrate into "ism's"

Someone breaking the law should not get put ahead of the line for millions of other people and actually paid and coddled for it. Nor should their race or country of origin matter at all. It is crazy and unsustainable and not at all about race.

As for the little article you posted on Racial Profiling. Ridiculous lefty nonsense. Illegal isnt a race, it isnt about racism. It is about violating the laws and protecting the citizens and residents of the USA against foreign invasion and resource gobbling.

So to sum up. Its irrational to try and charge law promoting citizens with racism for opposing illegal immigration in that you suppose they just want Blacks to handle the menial labor. People of all races who are unemployed wouldnt mind handling the menial labor such as construction, warehousing, PC firms, factories, if they could only get the jobs.

So when you bring up slavery in a place it doesnt belong, dont go back and say people are denying it and dont want to hear about it. It has nothing to do with the issue no matter how hard you try and invoke the sacred tattered race card.

Anonymous said...

If you clap your hands real hard, you can deny being a racist!
How about targeting businesses? Easier to effect results and far fewer stops for DWH.
Faking that Liberals don't want laws enforced is a falsehood. Liberals just get upset when children are locked up so Heeyucks can feel all besser. It is the businesses that don't want the enforcement. Can you say bush? How about Cheney?
There is this activity called reading and it is related to research. Try some.

Mold

Hathor said...

Some think that if there were no immigrants that more black people would be employed. Obviously they don't understand the dynamics of hiring black people. Why then was there a suit against Abercrombie and Fitch about their hiring of sales associates or how often do you see a Black male as a teller? Look at the servers in restaurants.(they are not Mexican) Many companies don't want the face of black people to define them.

The unemployment rate has been high long before there was an influx of immigrants. Technology replaced many of those day laborer jobs over fifty years ago. Manufacturing that effected mostly Black people either moved or moved entirely offshore; that began over thirty years ago.

FYI When there was the draft the military drafted foreigners, that had certain residency status. If they were a student, that had to take a certain number of hours to avoid their draft status from changing.

uptownsteve said...

chicago dyke

"what you're advocating here is changing the constitution. it's pretty clear: if you're born here, you're an american, period. remember why that amendment came about: to make sure ex-slaves, black ex-slaves in particular, had the full rights of citizens. do you really think that if the right wing in this country is successful and bans the natural born rights to the children of the undocumented, they'll stop there? it is obvious racism that drives their movement, as well as greed. the greed that allows them to look the other way as their corporate buddies hire the undocumented at near-slave wages?"

Hathor

"The unemployment rate has been high long before there was an influx of immigrants. Technology replaced many of those day laborer jobs over fifty years ago. Manufacturing that effected mostly Black people either moved or moved entirely offshore; that began over thirty years ago."

Nice work ladies.

La♥audiobooks said...

"to make sure ex-slaves, black ex-slaves in particular, had the full rights of citizens."

What does that have to do with slavery or African slaves being enslaved in America? African slaves did not sneak into or arrive in America by choice. And receiving slave wages isn't the same as being enslaved. Furthermore, what you may consider as "slave wages" may also be objective. My boss makes more than I do and she swears she collecting "slave wages". What does that say about the wages of her subordinates?

"think about it. and who would next be deprived of constitutional rights."

I understand to some extent, but I wish people would stop using "Slavery/Black Civil RIghts" as stepping stool for every cause and fight under the sun. And I wish some of you black-American folk would stop this runaway slave fear syndrome. I think it's about time black folk in America stop behaving like we always owe it somebody... or else we are going to get it. News flash: Blacks in America are still getting it.

This behavior sickens me. Spineless. No wonder it seems we will never have any control, or say as to what goes on in America, which is OUR America too. We are busy trying to make everybody else happy and comfortable while we still sleep on the couch. We don't owe it to ANYONE but ourselves!

Furthermore, all the Asian/Latin/non-black illegal immigrants in America don't need the support of black Americans. They already have a stronger and more powerful support network right here in America looking out for them. Your support means nothing.

I keep telling you people this.

Anonymous said...

Why are the usual wenches speaking in general terms? Black folks this and black folks that.

Since the only blacks they know are pathetic black folks in their pathetic lives, they believe that those pathetic blacks are representative of all blacks.

Well, sorry to break it to the wenches, but that's not the case.

There are some blacks (males and females) who keep their nose to the grindstone and make it happen for their families and who do not succumb to the tired old dumb stereotypes parroted by the usual wenches.

La♥audiobooks said...

My first paragraph was referencing the full quote by Chicago Dyke:

"if you're born here, you're an american, period. remember why that amendment came about: to make sure ex-slaves, black ex-slaves in particular, had the full rights of citizens."



Also, I feel if a child is born in America to illegal parent/s, he/she should be sent back along with their illegal parent/s. When they reach 18, they may have the option to return, and providing no criminal history etc.

This should go for all illegal immigrants regardless of race, including the Chinese and Cubans regardless of their political bullshit.

La♥audiobooks said...

Steve and CDyke, remember I keep saying this on this blog, illegal immigrants especially Latinos may not be competing for your jobs now, but their children and grand-children will be doing the competing.

And since we still live in a black skin denigrated world/America, you don't have to worry about the ebol white man coming for you again, he will soon be replaced by your clannish brown allies who will be the ones handing out the "slave wages" to your black grandchildren. In some places in American and in the Carib, it's already started. Go fear that.

uptownsteve said...

"Steve and CDyke, remember I keep saying this on this blog, illegal immigrants especially Latinos may not be competing for your jobs now, but their children and grand-children will be doing the competing."

SO WHAT??????????

This is not a zero-sum game where somebody ones and somebody loses.

Nothing wrong with healthy competition.

LAA, are you so blind that you can't see that this was one of the racists arguments against Civil Rights Legislation.

That giving black folks equal rights would be a direct assault on the white way of life?

That blacks were going to take the "white peoples' jobs"?

What I really don't get is how black folks like you ideologically align yourselves with white folks who don't even regard YOU as an equal.

But you'll trash hispanci immigrants.

Un-friggin-believable.

uptownsteve said...

"In some places in American and in the Carib, it's already started. Go fear that."

Like where?

I grew up in NYC which has more hispanics than most places in America.

Never had a problem. Many where and are my close friends to this very day.

Rudy said...

Interesting conversation about non-black immigrants.

These folks strive to become American, and as Camille Cosby said, America teaches her citizens (and immigrants) to hate black people.

I too never understood the automatic kinship blacks have for so-called "other minority" groups. Just because they are a minority in this country doesn't mean they identify with you!

If we had to depend on other non-black immigrants for civil rights, we would still be waiting.

Having said that, if an immigrant is willing to serve in the armed forces, then he or she should receive citizenship. You have homegrown Americans who will never contemplate the possibility of dying for this country.

The Purple Cow said...

You wingnuts need a lesson in logic.

How exactly do you plan to ‘secure your borders’? And what exactly would be the point if you could?

Your mainland borders alone are more than 12000 kilometers long. What are you going to do? Build a wall 12000 kilometers long and a 100 meters high? Even if you did raise a couple of trillion dollars to do that, don’t you think enterprising foreigners are going to find a way round, over, or under your fences? Or perhaps you plan to place a US soldier every hundred meters along the border instead? That would be 120,000 soldiers needed for every eight hour shift. 360,000 a day.

Would these allegedly secure borders protect you from Timothy McVeigh or the Unibomber? Nope. Would they even protect you from the 9/11 boys who flew in on commercial jets? Nope.

But go ahead, try and ‘Secure your borders’ if you can. Then for the first time in recorded history the population of an entire nation will have been condemned to life imprisonment, in a prison they built for themselves.

La♥audiobooks said...

And when I said clannish brown "allies", you better believe I'm also talking about the Arabs and various Middle Eastern groups. They own almost everything in the US Caribbean, and they too are going to spread their exploitive capital wings in certain black minority cities in US mainland (if not already).

One thing with most of us black people, not only are we great foot soldiers, but we're excellent hapless consumers who can't seem to own or control anything in America.

If the truth hurts, let it.

uptownsteve said...

"I too never understood the automatic kinship blacks have for so-called "other minority" groups. Just because they are a minority in this country doesn't mean they identify with you!"

What kinship? Nobody is claiming "kinship".

Blacks just don't mean them any harm or see hispanics as our enemies.

The real insanity is black folks who assume a kinship with white conservatives, OUR PROVEN ENEMIES.

uptownsteve said...

So LAA

Everybody hates blacks except white conservatives in your world?

ROTFLMBAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rudy said...

Dude, I know white conservatives are not our allies. I hope you knew that I already know this.

La♥audiobooks said...
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La♥audiobooks said...

Rudy said: 'Dude, I know white conservatives are not our allies. I hope you knew that I already know this.'

Steve is pulling for straws while mixing apples with coconuts.

Anonymous said...

But go ahead, try and ‘Secure your borders’ if you can. Then for the first time in recorded history the population of an entire nation will have been condemned to life imprisonment, in a prison they built for themselves.PC

usually eye think ure fulla shit but ure rite on the money here pal! rite on the money!

Anonymous said...

The Purple Cow said...
You wingnuts need a lesson in logic.

How exactly do you plan to ‘secure your borders’? And what exactly would be the point if you could?

The only lesson you are teaching moo-boy is how lazy and useless demented liberals really are. Here you go right away trying to dissuade someone from doing what is necessary because its too hard.

Dont worry, we dont need your type and we dont want your type of land (THE UK) that liberals have created. Its insane over there and getting worse everyday. Anything worth doing or having takes planning and work. So get that liberal thought out of your head.

Allow someone who clearly isnt as lazy and finger pointing as you to point out how easily borders can be controlled. As to the point well if you need to understand "why" then I am coming to live with you for free so you can pay for everything for me. Its too difficult for me here and I am sure your family wont mind cutting back on a few things to take care of me. Shit, I want it all so you should really cut some of them off.


The solution is simple. Enforce the laws already on the books. Do not provide tax dollars to Illegal Aliens. No housing assitance, no welfare, no energy assistance, no food stamps, no tax refunds on underreported incomes....all the things that hard working Americans work sometimes 2 jobs to pay for so asswipes like you can call them names. Make it so it is a severe crime that is enforced for employing and oppressing Illegal Aliens. The rest will sort itself out and the number of legal applicants will increase or they will try and revolutionize thier oppressed homecountries towards capitalism to create a better way of life there rather then fleeing and demanding the US accomodate them as they see fit with thier conditions and turn the US into a third world country like the UK.

By the way there moo-ey. Again your country is pretty screwed right now. Amazing how the liberals have also just totally trashed the UK with ridiculous political correctness. I am amazed when I read about the IMAMS with several wives living off the dole in the UK and never working for 10 years or more since they immigrated to the UK, while spreading and organizing terrorist attacks. What a pathetic suicidal society you have developed. With you as a lesson or shall I say shining example of the persons leading the insane clown posse.

La♥audiobooks said...

Steve said: 'What I really don't get is how black folks like you ideologically align yourselves with white folks who don't even regard YOU as an equal.".

Oh please, spare me the strawman, or shall I say scarecrow? How does looking out for the interest of legal blacks in America who are still minority and struggling as compared, make me ideologically aligned or parallel to the racist plight of some white folks who STILL have the powers/privileges they're only interested in keeping? My plight and interest is NOT the same. As a matter of fact, racist or not, legal white law abiding Americans also have a right to request protection and boarder control in a country they too were born and have to survive in. Be fair.

If you think you are going to dismiss my perspective, or make me feel guilty in some way by bringing up black slavery in America in attempt to evoke compassion for illegal law breakers, you better think again. As a black American, this is my Amerikkka too, and I too have a vested interest and say so as to what goes on without having to OWE anyone anything. Grow a spine, and take control in America too why don't you.

Anonymous said...

gawd laa is a bitter hateful kunthead!

Anonymous said...

u is the lowest of the low stank banks buceta lickin fool!

Anonymous said...

Blacks just don't mean them any harm or see hispanics as our enemies.

Wut a damn fool. Like Hispanics dont think Blacks are the lowest of low and hate them. Dam Fool. Go ahead cut your own throat jethro. Try walking through a barrio brother and see how much latins like the brothers.

uptownsteve said...

Rudy,

"Dude, I know white conservatives are not our allies. I hope you knew that I already know this."

Okay cool.

But I really don't see how you can suggest that black people are seeking some sort of "kinship" with hispanics.

I don't see it. We just don't wish them any ill and certainly don't see them as a threat.

uptownsteve said...

"As a black American, this is my Amerikkka too, and I too have a vested interest and say so as to what goes on without having to OWE anyone anything. Grow a spine, and take control in America too why don't you."

So why do you see the hispanics as a threat and not the tea party, for instance?

alicia banks said...

laa:

ditto!

preach!!!

notice how no one ever defends illegal haitians/puerto ricans/dominicans etc so???....

i adore hispanic people and they are exploited by all...even those who seek to erase them from the usa.

we are all squatters...except native americans.

and we black squatters were stolen africans.


history can never be edited like hobama's resume!

and ask any teacher or prof

it hurts me to say this
but MOST young hispanic students and parents are preferred over the average young toxic people like the vdlr and her lazy rude dumb spawn...4 real tho!

Rudy said...

Steve: But I really don't see how you can suggest that black people are seeking some sort of "kinship" with hispanics.

I don't see it. We just don't wish them any ill and certainly don't see them as a threat.


Yeah, I was speaking from a childhood perspective. I constantly heard, "Our Latino brothers and sisters...blah...blah...blah; Our Asian brothers and sisters...blah...blah...blah; diversity this and diversity that"

That perspective changed very quickly when I moved from the MD/DC area to LA.

I learned very quickly that diversity is skin deep.

alicia banks said...

laa:

notice how no one pleads so for shyne...even as a reformed newly jewish illegal?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/11/arts/music/11shyne.html

field negro said...

"say to you, this racism bullshit has to stop. I don’t know of any whites who plot and plan to keep Black people down by fighting Illegal Immigration and Illegal Immigration isn’t about Blacks are for it and whites are not. The Majority of this country is against Illegal Aliens as it directly impacts their opportunities....

blah blah blah. Let me tell you all something: if these so called illegal immigrants were all coming from places like Canada, Russia and Ireland we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

La~Audio@9:45PM, see what Mack and Zing said. You will have to blame your friends in charge here in A-merry-ca for the Cuban Haitian injustice that takes place when Haitians are turned back and Cubans aren't.

I embrace all immigrants of color. -My Haitian brothers and sisters included. - The immigrants who look like folks in the majority population don't need me to advocate for them, there are plenty of folks here in A-merry-ca already doing that. (Some of you are right here on this board. ;)

UTS @ 4:37 PM, I am feeling you my brotha.

"Illegal isnt a race, it isnt about racism. It is about violating the laws and protecting the citizens and residents of the USA against foreign invasion and resource gobbling."

More xenophobic nonsense! Workers that come here from South of the border works twice as hard as you wingnuts for half the pay. They cut your lawns and do who knows what else, and you turn your backs to it when it's convenient for you.

Sorry. You can't turn me against my brown brothers and sisters. Like UTS said, I have never had a problem or felt racism from any Hispanics (maybe it's an East Coast thing) and if I did it wouldn't change my position.

Anon@ 1:23 AM, I actually own my own business as well, and if you show me your work papers I might consider hiring you. ;)

"What other groups should we just shelve the laws for? WHich other laws should we break for leftist morals? WHich ones do you like or is it just anything you think conservatives are for that you are against?"

Yes.

field negro said...

"I learned very quickly that diversity is skin deep."

Rudy, to a great extent, this might be true. But so what? I am talking about common political and ideological interests. We don't have to be friends. Hell we don't even have to trust each other. Just as long as you and I vote and organize in blocks to get things that benefit our groups. This is what the wingnut is afraid of. It's why he desperately wants to divide the groups. It's why he loves it when certain black folks advocate against Hispanics. It makes his job so much easier.

alicia banks said...

fn:

i nominate bernie sanders for true FN behavior!!

http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=e35eddb4-0d83-4c55-92c0-e448c55526ff

http://blackagendareport.com/?q=content/freedom-rider-obama-and-clinton-evil-twins

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

The Purple Cow said...

Anonny 05:13 You’re as clueless about my country as you are about your own.

“The only lesson you are teaching moo-boy is how lazy and useless demented liberals really are. Here you go right away trying to dissuade someone from doing what is necessary because its too hard.”

It’s not too hard dimwit, it’s totally fucking impossible – but if you want to blow your tax dollars go ahead.

“
Dont worry, we dont need your type and we dont want your type of land (THE UK) that liberals have created.”

You don’t want my type of land? Well good, cuz we ain;t offering it too you.

Liberals have created the UK, really? When? We’ve had conservative governments for 19 years out of the last 30. We had nothing but conservative governance before 1926, and only three Labour governments since then. One of those was lead by closet-conservative Tony B – liar.

”Its insane over there and getting worse everyday.”

I know, but they would insist on electing a Conservative government.

I did try to warn them.

” So get that liberal thought out of your head.”

Well being a Socialist I don’t have any Liberal thoughts. Not my style.

” 
By the way there moo-ey.”

Didja come up with that one all by yerself? Or did you hire a scriptwriter?

You wingnuts, an’ yer sophisticated sense of humour!

Anonymous said...

LAA, "And since we still live in a black skin denigrated world/America, you don't have to worry about the ebol white man coming for you again, he will soon be replaced by your clannish brown allies who will be the ones handing out the "slave wages" to your black grandchildren. In some places in American and in the Carib, it's already started. Go fear that."

You are so right. I am amazed at folks like uts and Field who can't see this after centuries of being last. But the most obvious are how the Mexicans IN Mexico and IN America treat Blacks. They treat us WORSE than white racists. I talk from experience with Mexicans...they ARE the biggest racists on the planet.

Blacks like uts and field are disgusting and an aid to the destruction of the black race. THEY are slave catchers for the Mexicans! Hispanics will soon surpass Blacks in education and jobs...that translate into living better than Blacks...thanks to dumbass folks like uts.

When will the Mexicans speak up for the injustices done to Blacks? They won't...they despise Blacks and feel Negritos are less than human. Of course, this reality known by so many Blacks doesn't even 'faze' uts. He continues on blindly...typical negro with the IQ of an uncle remus.

Anonymous said...

Field, "I embrace all immigrants of color. -My Haitian brothers and sisters included. - The immigrants who look like folks in the majority population don't need me to advocate for them, there are plenty of folks here in A-merry-ca already doing that. (Some of you are right here on this board. ;)"

I hear ya. Too bad your words don't match your actions and behavior toward Haitians. You have been all over Conservatives about immigration laws and illegal Mexicans. Yet, you have not done *ONE* post regarding how badly Haitians have been treated and sent back.

You are 'absolutely' right that the racist Cubans in Miami had a lot to do with it. That ought to give you a "clue" of what is to come to Blacks from Latinos!

Anonymous said...

Field, "Anon@ 1:23 AM, I actually own my own business as well, and if you show me your work papers I might consider hiring you. ;)"

I am an advocate for the black race. You are not. Therefore, I respectfully decline.

Anonymous said...

Purple Cow, "You wingnuts need a lesson in logic.

How exactly do you plan to ‘secure your borders’? And what exactly would be the point if you could?"

Well, well...a comment from the peanut gallery across the waters. The answer is simple, bozo. We plan on getting toughter. We will shoot anybody who tries to cross our borders and put up a wall that will dwarf the Great Wall of China.

I know your little tiny mind can't comprehend this because you, well, you live somewhere in Amsterdam where they smoke a lot of pot.

chicago dyke said...

LAA: i appreciate what i perceive to be your anger that the undocumented are taking low wage jobs away from the unskilled pool of African American workers who may have otherwise gotten it, if our government were to actually enforce the laws about hiring the undocumented on the business that hire "them" instead of "us." please keep in mind: one of the reasons the undocumented are hired? it's not because of their "race," but because they have less ability with English, or don't understand our employment and environmental laws as well as Black folk often do. plus, the threat of deportation hangs heavy over them, where no one is going to try to deport us anywhere, knowing that the Civil Rights movement guarantees us citizenship.

i say this to you: turn off the TV. go to a meat processing plant, or a CA industrial farm, or a cherry picking orchard here in MI during the season. look at the people working at those places, and their working conditions. where i grew up, in the North, no less, the "migrant workers" (the corporate farmer's way of talking about undocumented labor) lived in slave shacks. literally, closet sized shacks with no water, heat, or lights, for a few months every year. the (mostly white) industrial farm managers and owners who were overseers? give me a break. they would have *never* hired unemployed or unskilled native labor, or any race. because Americans don't want to live like that. and don't have to, for the most part.

let's all agree, anon troll and TV viewer and progressive: the problem is ENFORCEMENT OF EXISTING LAW. we can all get down with that, yo. the laws on the books right now are very clear. the problem is that large ag corporations own too many government officials. they say: don't arrest the CEO of Tyson Chicken, because he sent lying con-artists to central america to promise uneducated teens to come to america to be "rich" working in his processing plants, and then locked them in when they realized what unsafe working conditions were in effect. Don't arrest the white fundamentalist "charity" organization that went down to Haiti after the quake to "rescue" "orphans," but in truth was looking for children to enslave in the homes of the rich as slaves, slaves who had no ability to ask anyone for their freedom. no, keep on playing this game that blames "messicans" for all the unemployed white and black americans. it's so much easier to blame them, and no one will ever notice that no strategist or CEO who wrote the actual plan is ever arrested.

wake up, grrl.

Mack Lyons said...

"Rudy, to a great extent, this might be true. But so what? I am talking about common political and ideological interests. We don't have to be friends. Hell we don't even have to trust each other. Just as long as you and I vote and organize in blocks to get things that benefit our groups. This is what the wingnut is afraid of. It's why he desperately wants to divide the groups. It's why he loves it when certain black folks advocate against Hispanics. It makes his job so much easier."

This is what LAA and FP don't get. In their drive for ideological purity, they're advocating the same tactics that the Powers That Be™ are using to divide and conquer individual ethnic groups, Blacks and Hispanics included. The writing's on the wall -- even if Whites are trending towards minority status in population, they won't be the minority as far as wielding any real power in this country is concerned anytime soon. And they'll work their asses off to see to that.

La♥audiobooks said...

Chicago Dyke, with all that said, you still missed the point. I'm not talking about the cherry picking jobs in the fields, I'm talking about their thriving children and grandchildren who WILL NOT BE picking any damn cherries in the near future. You black people are so arrogant and condescending if you think these people intend for their future generation to be cleaning up your shit.

And this isn't just about the cherry picking jobs, this is about competing for education, draining of more tax payers resources and the next future influence/power in AMERICA that will still be ANTI-BLACK. Why waste your energy on them, they don't need you. Go tutor or mentor a little black girl or boy somewhere. Wake up girl.

Field, typical that you try to shift the blame to the ebol white man regarding Haitian immigrants. I still don't see you black folk marching, picketing and whining excessively over THAT, and on behalf of your blackedy black Haitian brothers y sisters like you do for your hermanos de piel cafe. Why is that???

Hey AB! Thanks for the reply the other day. Glad to see you.

field negro said...

"Blacks like uts and field are disgusting and an aid to the destruction of the black race. THEY are slave catchers for the Mexicans! Hispanics will soon surpass Blacks in education and jobs...that translate into living better than Blacks...thanks to dumbass folks like uts.

When will the Mexicans speak up for the injustices done to Blacks? They won't.."

It's the those Mexicans fault that we suffer injustices here in America!

Why don't you speak up for yourself against injustice?

"Field, "Anon@ 1:23 AM, I actually own my own business as well, and if you show me your work papers I might consider hiring you. ;)"

I am an advocate for the black race. You are not. Therefore, I respectfully decline."

Good! Saves me the trouble of having to fire your ass.

La♥audiobooks said...

And AB, let me tell you. There are also a lot of white, black and in between Puerto Ricans who do not like "black" people either. I have several of them in my family. Every weekend I used to take weekend trips to PR and stay with them, I had to listen to the ignorance.

Mack Lyons said...

"You are so right. I am amazed at folks like uts and Field who can't see this after centuries of being last. But the most obvious are how the Mexicans IN Mexico and IN America treat Blacks. They treat us WORSE than white racists. I talk from experience with Mexicans...they ARE the biggest racists on the planet.

Blacks like uts and field are disgusting and an aid to the destruction of the black race. THEY are slave catchers for the Mexicans! Hispanics will soon surpass Blacks in education and jobs...that translate into living better than Blacks...thanks to dumbass folks like uts.

When will the Mexicans speak up for the injustices done to Blacks? They won't...they despise Blacks and feel Negritos are less than human. Of course, this reality known by so many Blacks doesn't even 'faze' uts. He continues on blindly...typical negro with the IQ of an uncle remus."


I don't know...I had to sit back and digest all of this before coming up with a good response.

I still don't understand what good it's gonna do Black people to direct their anger and vitriol towards Hispanics when it's still White America crafting and implementing policies that negatively impact Blacks, and when it's White American culture that teaches the whole world to sneer at, if not outright hate Black folk. Scare stories about how the Hispanics and Chinese are gonna eat Black folks lunch aren't gonna do much to actually move our people forward. As an advocate of Black interests, you should know this.

And denigrating Black people who support Hispanics....exactly what good is THAT gonna do? You mean to tell me that Blacks should have nothing to do with Hispanics and other ethnic groups until they start bending over backwards for us? I know we have our own interests to attend to, but this whole closed-fist policy isn't gonna do us any favors.

"Oh please, spare me the strawman, or shall I say scarecrow? How does looking out for the interest of legal blacks in America who are still minority and struggling as compared, make me ideologically aligned or parallel to the racist plight of some white folks who STILL have the powers/privileges they're only interested in keeping? My plight and interest is NOT the same. As a matter of fact, racist or not, legal white law abiding Americans also have a right to request protection and boarder control in a country they too were born and have to survive in. Be fair."

Because you happen to be engaged in the same sort of xenophobic fear-mongering that they indulge in on a daily basis. Your guns are ablazin', but you're hitting the wrong target.

Of course Americans have a right to a secured border. Just one that's erected with a sane policy that does not go out of its way to shit all over on peoples' basic human rights. You can see how well that's working out for Israel.

The fact that you're going out of your way to sound exactly like some of the dumbassed right-winger fear-mongers on this blog not only disheartens me, but it also brings about a few questions of my own. Good day to you.

Anonymous said...

"What other groups should we just shelve the laws for? WHich other laws should we break for leftist morals? WHich ones do you like or is it just anything you think conservatives are for that you are against?"

Yes.



Thanks for clarifying that you are totally incompetent and immoral. YOu are the reason this country is falling to shit. MOrals that fit your current situation. What a piece of shit lawyer you must be. So dont bitch the next time some group who is just as rotten as you liberals has the upper hand and decided to break the law against you. You deserve what you get!!!!.

Anonymous said...

blah blah blah. Let me tell you all something: if these so called illegal immigrants were all coming from places like Canada, Russia and Ireland we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

BULLSHIT. Only in your liberal twit of a mind. If we had 12 million Irishmen coming in with the majority sucking the teat of government they would be kicked out in a flash. Only with minorities, the poor poor cant help themselves minorities they get to cry racism and evryones being unfair so take care of us while we spew hatred. Fuck you and your fucking racism. Its disgusting. So you dont see the issue and are hateful enough to not give a fuck. For some reason you think whites will pay the price and keep picking up the tab. Well, when the ship sinks brother. You going to be right there with the whites. IN fact they may just ask you to man the lifeboat raft ropes while they get off the ship. YOu dont deserve anymore.

field negro said...

The above public service announcement was brought to you by a raving, lunatic, wingnut.

I hope you folks on the wingnut side of the immigration debate enjoy the company. *putting in my earphones as I finish listening to "Babylon By Bus" on my iPod*

Anonymous said...

Field, "I hope you folks on the wingnut side of the immigration debate enjoy the company. *putting in my earphones as I finish listening to "Babylon By Bus" on my iPod*"

Well, you showed your true colors today...you are the kind of lawyer who is crooked, not so bright, and lack morals.

My my. Philadelphia lawyers have certainly changed for the worst. Where did you got your degree from, Silo? I mean, it's clear that Jody is leagues above you when it comes to knowing the law.

But because you are only capable of serving black criminal clients I guess it doesn't really matter.

Anonymous said...

Good to see ignorance and bigotry is alive and well with colored folks.

field negro said...

"Good to see ignorance and bigotry is alive and well with colored folks."

Haley, is that you?

Anonymous said...

@ Field you might need to get yourself a chat room where we can all voice our oppinions. Jus sayin'