Before I post tonight I have to reiterate a very important "man rule" for all of you fellows reading with me.
I am pressed to do this because of a very unfortunate (and uncomfortable) incident I had today. Men, here is the deal: If you go into the bathroom and there are more than two urinals (four in this case) and only one urinal is being used, please do not go the urinal directly next to the person doing his business. That is not cool. It's right up there with watching Lifetime television or wearing a short- sleeve dress shirt under your suit in importance of man rule violations. Don't do it!
Anyway, let's talk.
I never want to hear folks say that only black folks are too harsh when they discipline their children ever again. Yes, we might put the rod to the little Rugrats when they get out of line, but they always live to see another day. You white folks, on the other hand, not so much:
"TAMPA, Florida — A suburban Florida soccer mom showed signs of trouble in the months before she was accused of killing her two teenage children: Her 16-year-old daughter told police in November she had been hit by her mother, and troopers investigating a car crash thought the woman had been using drugs.
The incidents were described in reports released Monday, several days after authorities say Julie Powers Schenecker, 50, shot and killed the kids because they were talking back and being "mouthy."
Story: Mom charged in teens' slayings out of hospital
Investigators found her soaked in blood Friday on the back porch of the family's upscale home. Later that day, at a county jail, Schenecker shook uncontrollably, her eyes wide.
Investigators said 16-year-old Calyx and 13-year-old Beau had each been shot twice in the head a day earlier — Beau in the family's car on the way to soccer practice, Calyx in her room as she studied at her computer
Both teens were killed with a .38-caliber pistol, which authorities say Schenecker bought five days earlier." [Story]
You bratty teens better let this be a lesson to you. You want your MTV but don't push your parents too much, because, if you do, you just might get something else.
Finally, I have been thinking about going back to church-- if only for the fellowship. I need to be in the company of some good god fearing people. I think about it, but then, unfortunately, some of you church folks show your true colors and cause me to change my mind.
"FLETCHER, N.C. - Authorities say a dispute over leadership at a church in western North Carolina turned from angry words to fist fights.
About 30 police officers from five agencies were called to break up fights Sunday at Greater New Zion Baptist Church in Fletcher, about 94 miles (150 kilometres) west of Charlotte.
Henderson County Sheriff's Capt. Jerry Rice says no one appears to have been seriously hurt.
Church members are divided over the recent ouster of the Rev. LeVonia Ray as pastor of the church. The fighting apparently began over whether a vote should be held to reinstate him.
Rice says there were about 75 people at the church when police arrived, but not all of them were scuffling. No charges have been filed. " [Story]
Oh Lawd! Thank goodness no one was hurt. I bet the next sermon is going to be really interesting at New Zion. Here is hoping that the Reverend works in Matthew 5: 38-40 in that bad boy.
145 comments:
Field...you got this kinda wrong man. Honestly I peep your blog about everyday twice a day. Please maintain its substitivity. I praise you and you do the darn thing...but this time you "kinda" got this wrong. This woman is by way of the military profession (spouse). Recently was stationed with this person back in Germany some years ago. This woman had signs of "weirdness" back then, but not to the point of being medically evaluated. Simply thought of being...aloof and a intricate personality. Most people and parents simply left her alone. I must say the children at that time, were well-mannered.
Anon (hate to be "Anon", but its work-related)
Field, for your spiritual growth -- church folks are just folks and have just as many glaring flaws as the rest of the world.
Personally, I think this mother was highly disturbed and only points to why we need strict gun control in this country. Now, if Momma LAC had walked into to a gun store and bought a .38, there would all sorts of background checks. But, I guess because it was a rich white woman - nobody batted an eye.
Simply put, we need better mental health care and extremely strict gun control. No modern nation lets its citizens run around with so lacks a gun control policy as we do in the states. Tragedies will happen of course, but gun deaths like this are all too common in the States.
But I think the church question and the crazy lady are related -- we live in an anxiety ridden society. There's not escape from stress and terror, we have no safe haven. Consumerism, plague, violence, war, debt, family strife -- we are besieged. We have no real sense of community -- we are connected through technology but utterly anti-social. How many of us know our neighbors.
That's what church should be. Its a community. Jesus calls Christians to be each other's support. More often than not, church folks (myself included) drag our personal drama, failures and gripes into the House of God -- making just as toxic as the secular world. And we often don't let those things go in church --fearing someone's gonna see through our facade. Irony, we're willing to kill ourselves in the hospital so other patients don't realize just how sick we are.
Which brings me back to crazy lady. Yes, this woman probably need a rubber room and lots of anti-psychotics. However, there's a part of me that said, did anyone notice this? Most people don't just wake up one day and shoot their kids. There's a lot more than meets the eye. This woman was slipping for a while, this time she just snapped. The facade was slowly cracking and she was obviously spiraling.
Unfortunately, there was probably no one in earshot who knew, noticed or even cared.
Field that woman was clearly disturbed you're wrong for that insinuation lol
Seriously these stories are always sad I don't know how anybody can glory in or gloat about crime and misfortune no matter whose community it is committed in.
I suspect we are going to see more and more bizarre kind of violence as the pressure cooker that is American life heats up.
The church folks obviously left the spirit behind. But it probably provides good entertainment for folks who take a dim view of church folks.
But Christianity is real for those who make it real, but even their best efforts sometime falls short.
Because the gist of the power to do whats right and spiritual and ultimately godly and comes from, as the Apostle Paul said to the Corinthian church, "this treasure we have in earthen vessels."
Anon 8:52 PM, thanks for checking in and for the 411 on the lady in Florida. As for the "substitivity", well, the "man rules" is serious business.:)
Mel and La~Coincidental, in a sad way the two stories are related. And for the very reasons you both touched on. Too much craziness and stress in society.
Really???? Really fields???
They about to ban farting in the African country of Malawi!!!! And you talking about some crazy cracker????
Ain't a day gone by that a cracker ain't killin they chillins.Thats just a few less i have to worry about. You feelin' me fields??
This is some serious sh*t!!! Farts are like racism-- you can't just keep it all in!!
Keep workin' them fields!! One day your Democrat masters might let y'all in the house!!
Hey, bummer someone invaded your personal space and scared you so bad. I hope you were able to work your way through it (Did you turn the other cheek?).
But at least you've got a horribly tragic story involving white people to gloat about, a mentally disturbed woman who KILLED HER OWN CHILDREN.
Ah, you're probably right Field, I bet they were watching too much MTV, and they had it coming.
Personally, I think this mother was highly disturbed and only points to why we need strict gun control in this country. Now, if Momma LAC had walked into to a gun store and bought a .38, there would all sorts of background checks. But, I guess because it was a rich white woman - nobody batted an eye.
So which state has very strong gun controls that we could take a look at? You cant do any better then banning them completely right? Now where is it next to impossible to get a handgun - Philly, NY, Chicago etc. How is the murder/crime rate and shootings in these cities?
I wish the mother was mentally strong to at least walk away from those children, give them to relatives, foster care etc. I can't imagine what was going on in her head, and this didn't happen over night. How can she be sane again and live with herself after what she did? Where was the help or the father?
I don't know the details of her situation, nor her mental condition. But people need to understand it's no joke raising children (alone), especially when life seems to be throwing hard steady rocks in your direction. And if one doesn't have that outside emotional support when raising children, mental illness and/or parental dysfunction will be inevitable. And if mental illness was present beforehand, this would surely be the outcome.
And lets not pretend, a disrespectful mouthy child can push you beyond your limits (even though in this case there was clearly more to it). I personally am not a physically abusive person, but I am capable of saying some messed up things outside the movie Precious. My mother has done me even worse as a child (now she conveniently doesn't remember), she puts the V in vicious, and with a straight face island style. I am not proud either, my actions have kept me up at night, it has eaten at my soul. And once you say hurtful and unimaginable things to a child or someone you love, you can never take it back. But we are only human. It's not easy.
As for the WWE church bangers, no big surprise. When my mother goes to church every Sunday and states she's going to pray for me, I kindly remind her not to sit in someone else's "spot" on the bench while she's at it. She'll see how holy the place is after that. Bible toting holy hypocrite warriors wouldn't think twice to mangle an arthritic little woman over their special seat. You all know it's the truth.
Ok Anony, let it rip, let me have it for saying that.
"Finally, I have been thinking about going back to church-- if only for the fellowship. I need to be in the company of some good god fearing people. I think about it, but then, unfortunately, some of you church folks show your true colors and cause me to change my mind."
Ah, Field you are just looking for excuses not go to church. If your decision to go to church is based on whether humans are going to be goodie two-shoes, you will never get there. This is Earth and even worse, you live in America where violence is normal. I bet those folks fighting were Black, weren't they? Yep, no_slappz will have a 'field' day with that one. lol
The mother who murdered her children is obviously mentally ill. As far as comparing White parenting vs Black parenting..don't even go there. Black kids die in the streets everyday- and many black parents don't give a damn about their kids well-being. In fact, we have an out-of-control 'crisis' when it comes to ruining kids.
You really should go to church. or take up Buddhist meditation, or prayer, or 'something'--cause you need some spirituality in your life.
As for the WWE church bangers, no big surprise. When my mother goes to church every Sunday and states she's going to pray for me, I kindly remind her not to sit in someone else's "spot" on the bench while she's at it. She'll see how holy the place is after that. Bible toting holy hypocrite warriors wouldn't think twice to mangle an arthritic little woman over their special seat. You all know it's the truth.
Ok Anony, let it rip, let me have it for saying that.
So true and forget about Bingo night, then the claws come out!!!
LAA, "As for the WWE church bangers, no big surprise. When my mother goes to church every Sunday and states she's going to pray for me, I kindly remind her not to sit in someone else's "spot" on the bench while she's at it. She'll see how holy the place is after that. Bible toting holy hypocrite warriors wouldn't think twice to mangle an arthritic little woman over their special seat. You all know it's the truth.
Ok Anony, let it rip, let me have it for saying that."
I have nothing but love for you, so I can't criticize you for saying what you said. Besides, everything you said is true. The churches are full of hypocrites. But that's what churches are for: "hypocrites". It certainly isn't for non-hypocrites. Imo, 'hypocrisy' is part of the human condition. Look at the world and the mess created by hypocrites all over the globe! Look at Obama, and he doesn't even go to church.
I don't go to church much, but I pray, meditate, study spiritual books, and go on one or two retreats each year. Even with such practices, I still have some 'hypocrite' in me. It can be bothersome at times, but again, I really think it is part of being human. That's why church and religion is a good thing for many humans, imo. So, God bless your mother and you. For purposes of harmony in a church, it IS good advice for your mother not to sit in someone's "spot" on the bench. Although I cannot imagine anyone hurting a little elderly woman in church. That would be a great sin in the eyes of God. Nevertheless, humans have been known to defy imagination and God- even in church!
Anonymous said...
Personally, I think this mother was highly disturbed and only points to why we need strict gun control in this country. Now, if Momma LAC had walked into to a gun store and bought a .38, there would all sorts of background checks. But, I guess because it was a rich white woman - nobody batted an eye.
So which state has very strong gun controls that we could take a look at? You cant do any better then banning them completely right? Now where is it next to impossible to get a handgun - Philly, NY, Chicago etc. How is the murder/crime rate and shootings in these cities?
Anon, you're making it too easy. Next time you want to get smacked down, at least have the self respect and not throw me a softball.
The reason for strict federal gun control is to ensure that gangsters from New York and Philly don't drive to backwater states like Virginia and SC to purchase cheap, powerful guns.
The issue is that people can pick guns in Red States which are notorious for their lax gun laws. Then the gang-bangers sell them for cheap on inner cities streets. The Mexican drug cartels use the same trick -- buy cheap guns in Arizona and Texas to arm their forces on Juarez and other border towns.
Its called the 'iron pipeline'. Here's an example.
Better luck next time, Anon. Thanks for playing.
relative to the rule.
if there are only 3 urinals and you are the only one using them, don't use the middle one, in case someone else comes in after you and is forced to violate the first rule
simon h, bonnie(cold) scotland
The mother who murdered her children is obviously mentally ill"
Of course she was, she was white. White folks don't do stuff like that....right?
"relative to the rule.
if there are only 3 urinals and you are the only one using them, don't use the middle one,"
Thanks Anon. I forgot to mention that. :)
"Hey, bummer someone invaded your personal space and scared you so bad. I hope you were able to work your way through it (Did you turn the other cheek?)."
No, I did not turn the other "cheek". Stop fantasizing.
BTW, I am just trying to save folks like you the embarrassment if you happen to look over and down. ;)
LAC said: "Personally, I think this mother was highly disturbed and only points to why we need strict gun control in this country. Now, if Momma LAC had walked into to a gun store and bought a .38, there would all sorts of background checks. But, I guess because it was a rich white woman - nobody batted an eye"
maybe that statement was meant to provoke something. but we don't know she was rich. her husband was deployed and she was not working. we also don't know whose gun it was or how she got it. so people only apply the gun control laws to blacks who try and purchase guns? never seen any data to support that.
why isn't anyone outraged by the obvious impact of these two failed wars on society and military families?
bring them home NOW!
Anon, you're making it too easy. Next time you want to get smacked down, at least have the self respect and not throw me a softball.
The reason for strict federal gun control is to ensure that gangsters from New York and Philly don't drive to backwater states like Virginia and SC to purchase cheap, powerful guns.
The issue is that people can pick guns in Red States which are notorious for their lax gun laws. Then the gang-bangers sell them for cheap on inner cities streets. The Mexican drug cartels use the same trick -- buy cheap guns in Arizona and Texas to arm their forces on Juarez and other border towns.
Its called the 'iron pipeline'. Here's an example.
Better luck next time, Anon. Thanks for playing.
Didnt realize this was a personal pissing contest to determine who has a better smartass answer.
Smacked down, throw you a softball, no self respect? Your pretty violent for a gun control advocate.
So I guess we can assume 3 things with your point of view.
That guns will never be outlawed globally. History, human nature, US constitution and so on - Pretty much a given fact.
The second being that when guns are outlawed in one location the only people who will have them are criminals who wont hesitate to use them. - Fact proven by the increased crime statistics in each area subjected to gun bans.
The third outlawed areas will make the supply and demand side very lucrative (the iron pipeline you mentioned) so there will always be a criminal element finding and supplying law breakers with guns. Which said lawbreakers will not hesitate to use these guns in criminal activities against the unarmed law abiding citizens - Facts, crime statistics, the real world.
Leaving the only unarmed people, as those who want to be law abiding citizens totally reliant on the police for protection. - Police have never been very effective in our society for anything other then deterrents for getting caught and punished after the crime has been committed, Most criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police.
How do you think this model is working so far? I mean again looking at murder and crime in a major city such as DC, strict gun bans have been in place since 1976 and the murder rate has risen 134%
This rise in crime is always the same in gun banned cities.
It has been proven that crime does decrease when gun ownership rises. Ultimately increased gun ownership causes criminals to review thier method of making a living for health reasons. Except in areas where guns are banned.
Coinciding with a surge in gun purchases that began shortly before the 2008 elections, violent crime decreased six percent between 2008 and 2009, including an eight percent decrease in murder and a nine percent decrease in robbery.1 Since 1991, when violent crime peaked, it has decreased 43 percent to a 35-year low. Murder has fallen 49 percent to a 45-year low.2 At the same time, the number of guns that Americans own has risen by about 90 million. Predictions by gun control supporters, that increasing the number of guns, particularly handguns and so-called “assault weapons,” would cause crime to increase, have been proven profoundly lacking in clairvoyance.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rep/gun-ownership-up-crime-down.html
correction: another story says she lived in a "gated community," so maybe the "rich" label fits (however, this is tampa so who knows).
anyway, the focus needs to be on how military families are cracking up.
Lew Rockwell as a 'source'? Chief ghostwriter for racist drivel signed off by Ron Paul? A Federalist Society Troo Beleever--the same folks who thinkerate that AfAms should still be 3/5 for census....and nada for voting? An Austerian who done hates that eveel concept of Democracy...because we agree that some things he should not do?
What next, Woody Allen and his Freedom To Daughters under the Amendment that Freedom lets us?
I would not assume wite woman is crazy. It could be she all religious. Our military has been infested by Fundies. Normally, that isn't too bad...you need a certain quota of stoopids to take on menial and mind-numbing tasks...and Fundies do rather well at the simplest and least skillful activities. Then, if your career depends on placating a Fundie...you don't do your job. You spend all your time making Fundie happy...and they are never happy. Instead of removing threats to the US, you end up checking reading material for items that make fun of BabyJesus, or have pictures of women not wearing 'modest' apparel, or you are asked to 'share' on your peer's lack of Faith, or you hear endless tales about 'the mark of Ham', or warned about 'telling lies'...anything even the slightest bit negative about their performance....BTDT
Maybe the dude was attempting to 'Larry Craig' you?
As I age, I find it easier to write off people. If you kill or abuse others...we end you as a society. Is this the cranky s**t?
Mold
Three men were standing side-by-side using the urinal.
The first man finished, zipped up and started washing and literally scrubbing his hands ... clear up to his elbows ... He used about 20 paper towels before he finished. He turned to the other two men and commented: "I graduated from Harvard and they taught us to be clean."
The second man finished, zipped up and quickly wet the tips of his fingers, grabbed one paper towel and commented: "I graduated from the University of California and they taught us to be environmentally conscious."
The third man zipped up and as he was walking out the door he had a smirk on his face and said: "I don't know about you guys, but where I went to college, they taught us not to piss on our hands."
Maybe the dude was attempting to 'Larry Craig' you?
As I age, I find it easier to write off people. If you kill or abuse others...we end you as a society. Is this the cranky s**t?
Mold
Holy shit, they let the cuckoos out early today. .
LAC, you are always talking about someone noting strange behaviour before the killer in them rises. I think you best do somethin bout your boy MOLD, he don't sound stable. Now he talkin shit like "if you kill others we end you as a society" Somethin wrong with this dude...he about to go off.
I know so many people that have been driven crazy by military life.
And what is it with those urinals anyway? Why do men have to urinate in front of each other like that??? Men should protest and not use those urinals at all!
waiting to see what needs sobering bruising slaps has to say about this violent wf "mom"....
hey fn:
i evade churches as i do the ebola virus...
the most soulless hateful sinful dirty people i know live there...
the most evil people i know run to churches to bathe...like mafia men who never miss sunday mass after slaying and stealing all week...
going to church would make me lose my soul!!!
http://aliciabanks.xanga.com
http://www.amazon.com/Good-Without-God-Billion-Nonreligious/dp/006167012X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1296571273&sr=1-1
laa/fp:
uts has bashed toni morrison many times for calling bill c black....no?
i am late on this
but it was bm ishmael reed who called bubba black first!!!
now how will uts spin this one???
like uts
ir is a hobama nazi
ir admirably crucified bill c and gwb
but does nothing but defend their blackish clone hobama
shame!!!!!!!!!!
Writing in the Baltimore Sun in 1998, I was the first to identify Bill Clinton as a "black president," as a result of his mimicking the black style of preaching and his admiration for black culture.
For this symbolism, black voters apparently became so attracted to the former president that they ignored his interrupting a campaign to preside over the execution of a black mentally disabled man. The Sister Souljah incident, where he used a Rap singer's allegedly anti-white lyrics to embarrass Jesse Jackson, was a move, according to Al From, founder of the Democratic Leadership Conference, which was designed to repudiate a "special interest group," that had dominated the party.
http://articles.sfgate.com/2008-02-03/opinion/20871582_1_black-voters-black-president-black-culture
http://www.amazon.com/Mixing-Up-Taking-Bullies-Reflections/dp/1568583397/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1296572943&sr=1-1
Maria - my only purpose for the gun control and 'rich white woman' thing is that are gun laws are broken down by class and rate. As an Army colonel's she probably wasn't scraping by. But, you're right - 'rich white woman' was mis-characterization.
You're right about this woman's probable duress under the Iraq war - like I said before The War (I personally think of both conflicts as one big war) is Hell on families, amongst the other problems within the society. What are we doing to address it as a nation?
mareally nicole:
this is a bm i love - bob herbert
i will cc black men who agree with me about that ruthless elitist bankster dog hobama...that will aid your hearing 4 sure.
There has always been feverish opposition on the right to Social Security. What is happening now, in a period of deficit hysteria, is that this crucial retirement program is being dishonestly lumped together with Medicare as an entitlement program that is driving federal deficits. Medicare costs are a serious problem, but that’s because of the nightmarish expansion of health care costs in general.
Beyond Medicare, the major drivers of the deficits are not talked about so much by the fat cats and demagogues because they were either responsible for them, or are reaping gargantuan benefits from them, or both. The country is drowning in a sea of debt because of the obscene Bush tax cuts for the rich, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq that have never been paid for and the Great Recession.
Mugging the nation’s grandparents by depriving them of some of their modest, hard-earned Social Security retirement benefits is hardly an answer to the nation’s ills. And, believe me, those benefits are modest. The average benefit is just $14,000 a year, which is less than the minimum wage would pay. With employer-provided pensions going the way of the typewriter and pay telephones, the income from Social Security is becoming more precious by the day.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/25/opinion/25herbert.html?_r=1&ref=bobherbert
lac:
all of the bush war protestors became mum hobama nazis.
war is good when hobama wages it...shame!!!!!!!!!
AB
What did I do? snicker
"uts has bashed toni morrison many times for calling bill c black....no?"
That's a lie. I don't know that I ever even mentioned Toni Morrison (whose work I enjoy) on this board and as far as I'm concerned her "Clinton was the first black President" was a bit of whimsy, not to be taken seriously.
Our military was sustained by the thousands of poor Southern folk who had no other alternative when they utterly lost the Civil War. Instead of investing in infrastructure and education like the Yankees who did better in strategy and tactics...the South continued the failed slavery model of business...and thereby depended on massive Federal handouts.
The military remains one of the places where labour pressures are bled off.
Still, doesn't excuse wite person from murdering children. Mouthy...sounds like christian horseapples.
Mold
LAC..short of a complete ban of guns what sort of gun control would you have wanted to prevent this woman from purchasing a gun?
She had not been adjudicated mentally ill and had no criminal record.
AB
We all know of your passionate hatred for BO.
Boy do we know it.
So, what is the alternative as you see it.
Who would you like to see run against Obama with a serious chance of victory?
Would you even support Sarah Palin if she is the GOP nominee in 2012?
Even though she has the IQ of an ear of corn?
LACoincidental said...
Maria - my only purpose for the gun control and 'rich white woman' thing is that are gun laws are broken down by class and rate. As an Army colonel's she probably wasn't scraping by. But, you're right - 'rich white woman' was mis-characterization.
You're right about this woman's probable duress under the Iraq war - like I said before The War (I personally think of both conflicts as one big war) is Hell on families, amongst the other problems within the society. What are we doing to address it as a nation?
Rich white woman? Probably wasnt scraping by? Gun laws are broken down by class and rate? Sure you aren't trying to mail a letter here? Class and rate? Care to expand on what all of this means?
So an AfAm was executed. Was it legal? Did he do the crime? Why should I care that one less Perp takes up my tax money after being useless to society?
I would rather my limited funds go to feeding and educating children to prevent 'street pirates'...but when you go scum...quit whining.
Mold
Anonymous said...
Our military was sustained by the thousands of poor Southern folk who had no other alternative when they utterly lost the Civil War. Instead of investing in infrastructure and education like the Yankees who did better in strategy and tactics...the South continued the failed slavery model of business...and thereby depended on massive Federal handouts.
The military remains one of the places where labour pressures are bled off.
Still, doesn't excuse wite person from murdering children. Mouthy...sounds like christian horseapples.
Mold
Cuckoo..Cuckoo..Cuckoo..Cuckoo..Cuckoo..Cuckoo..Cuckoo..Cuckoo..Cuckoo..Cuckoo..Cuckoo..Cuckoo..WhackJob..Whackjob...Whackjob..Whackjob..Whackjob..Whackjob..Whackjob..Whackjob..
where did you read that her husband is a colonel?
AB, really insane= i am not playing with you today. grow up and get a job. i told you i have no experience with interracial dating, now please STFU.
Would you even support Sarah Palin if she is the GOP nominee in 2012?
Even though she has the IQ of an ear of corn?
If she has the IQ of an ear of corn then I shudder to think of what your IQ might be. Riddle me this batman. How come those calling Sarah Palin a "bimbo" often look like part of Paris Hilton's entourage?
uts and maria/remus and nicole:
your blatant lies will never live as long as fn's archives!
uts:
what should anyone NOT hate about hobama??????????????????????
what has that blackish mf done that any poor person of any race\
should love or respect him????
wha?????
http://aliciabanks.xanga.com
mareally miss anne:
every one of my black s/heroes has been called insane by racist shrews like you.
i thank u for making my day!!!
uts and mareally stupid/uncle ruckus and kim k:
tell me what i/anyone who is not a bankster should love about hobama..NOW!!!
or stfu!!!!!!!
AB, in our system we get about two choices for the office. Obama was less batpoo crazy than McCain and Palin...
Sarey-how many colleges before she finished...why? How about the ice rink? Bridge to Wasilla? Wasn't she a machine candidate? Well, not to the lower 48.
Todd-read the Alaskan blogs
Track- Addict? Why jail or Army?
Bristol-two kids Abstinence Werks!!
Willow- runs a burglary ring in Wasilla
Piper-shows signs of being neglected...no cameras near her.
Mold
Maria what the fuck does the war have to do with that crazy spoil dumb ass evil white woman killing her kids?
AB, loved the Social Security post.
Mold
mold:
u r welcome
i adore bob h
the lesser of 3 evils is still sheer evil.
and hobama nazis have allowed hobama to become TRIPLY more evil because they have worshipped him UNCHECKED...
ie
EVERY thing mareally a deaconess in the cult of hobama posts to this blog is PROOF that his every act will be excused...
ie
when hobama shuts down the internet as his egyptian clones have done...she will post
"hobama did not invent the kill switch he just pushed"....
shame!!!!!
http://aliciabanks.xanga.com
"if Momma LAC had walked into to a gun store and bought a .38, there would all sorts of background checks. But, I guess because it was a rich white woman - nobody batted an eye."
She doesn't have to be rich. Most gun shop owners wouldn't hesitate to profile a black person attempting to buy a gun, since they believe most blacks are either gangbangers (who won't attempt to legally buy weapons) or felons (ditto). The owners aren't trained in psychoanalyzing prospective white buyers and it'd be pretty rude to do so, so even if the guy or gal buying the weapon is a certified nutcase, unless something comes up in the background checks, the buyer has green lights all the way.
You have white people scared shitless of Black "gangsters" owning "AK-47s" with "cop killing bullets" while you have legions of "law-abiding" White gun owners who may be ready to snap at any given moment.
"The reason for strict federal gun control is to ensure that gangsters from New York and Philly don't drive to backwater states like Virginia and SC to purchase cheap, powerful guns."
You'd figure gangsters would stick to the black market for relatively untracable firearms, unless there's a willing proxy who ferries weaponry from the backwaters to the big cities. Took a look at your link, though. Who knew?
At any rate, I believe gun control's relatively useless. People who want a gun will get a gun -- it's just a matter of how bad they want one and what they'll do to get their hands on one. Besides, the "God-fearing Americans" in Deliverance Country won't stand for their "rights" being infringed upon.
Only Obama could eliminate Social Security (kudos to Nixon!)
I worry that a man so obviously intelligent could replicate the Hoover idiocy. But, like Hoover, Obama is surrounded by Wall Street advisers and is quite isolated from the daily experience of large portions of the population.
Great Depression data is skewed in that the only seemed to count white dudes that mattered. Women, persons of colour, recent immigrants...all had unemployment far in excess of what was discussed. Just in one area I lived, the rate approached 100%. Times were unpleasant....unless you were a Taft, bush, Koch, Quayle, st reagan...or worked for them.
Mold
I love the bold and Pyrrhic stance gun fetishists hold if 'da gubmint come'. Gee, BillySueBobMiley Cyrus has a gun...wonder how they do when the Fed comes armed? Oh wait, Ruby Ridge, Waco...
Somehow the Heeyucks are so much more belligerent when the Fed is an unarmed Civil Service Employee.
Mold
UTS: "Clinton was the first black President" was a bit of whimsy,
Yes, the truth was Clinton was the first rapist President, at least since Jefferson.
At least Jefferson didn't bite Sally Heming's lip and send goons to intimidate her.
mareally owes bubba an apology!
bill c NEVER lied on that fairy tale cia agent hoax hobama!!!
Now, if I had to take a wild guess about what some of you are thinking, it’s probably, “But what about Bush and the Republicans…?” Sure, there were many negative things we can point to about life under the Bush “regime”, however, Black unemployment averaged around 10 and 11 percent-even hitting a historic low of 9.4 percent in the fall of 2005. Incidentally, that’s an average that Bill Clinton, in all his infinite wisdom didn’t produce during his incumbency. In case you missed it, Bill Clinton told the late Ted Kennedy that Obama is better suited to provide White Democrats with coffee than he is to lead Americans. Look it up.
If we take it back to the 1980s, Jimmy Carter (the guy who referred to Obama as a ‘Black boy’) left Ronald Reagan with a near 20 percent black unemployment rate. By the time Reagan finished his second term, black unemployment was sliced in half to a low of around 11 percent. Reagan is frequently criticized for cutting“essential” social programs (which is a fallacy), but the facts clearly demonstrate that under Reagan more blacks were employed, and I prefer that my people be employed rather than be slaves of the state.
So, while most of Black America continue to fawn over Obama and refuse to acknowledge the elephant in the room (pardon the pun)–Americans, especially people who look like us– continue to suffer. As a conscious republican “sista” who lives and works in “da hood”, I’m gravely concerned about these numbers, and you should be too. I’m not saying Republicans are perfect, but when it comes to getting government out of the way to let private industry hire folks—they seem to be on the right side of issues (pun-intended).
I never really had much “hope” in Obama’s mantra that ‘Government intervention is the answer to all of our problems’–because I believe in individual initiative more than I do out-of-touch bureaucrats. Again, numbers don’t lie, so I’m still waiting to be proven wrong about all the ‘change’ I was told to believe in.
http://newsone.com/newsone-original/newsonestaff2/still-waiting-for-my-change-mr-president/
FakeAnon, keep telling yourself that Bill has to be just like you. It makes paying double and up front for what others get for free less of a Ken Starr problem.
You would do besser to bring up the black melanocopters that landed in the Arkansas citrus groves and Sonny and Tubbs were under orders from st reagan to halt the spread of undocumented alien fweedom fwies.
Is there nothing too stoopid for you-all to beleeve?
Mold
uts:
been polling inside politicos' brains?
what makes u a sp sage???
sarah palin's IQ may be higher than hobama's...as all we know is that ONLY his teleprompter is gifted!
field said:
"Before I post tonight I have to reiterate a very important "man rule" for all of you fellows reading with me.
I am pressed to do this because of a very unfortunate (and uncomfortable) incident I had today. Men, here is the deal: If you go into the bathroom and there are more than two urinals (four in this case) and only one urinal is being used, please do not go the urinal directly next to the person doing his business. That is not cool. It's right up there with watching Lifetime television or wearing a short- sleeve dress shirt under your suit in importance of man rule violations. Don't do it!"
And here, all this time, I thought you were down with the down-low Bros. I tell ya, a man wants to piss by a man, and you go all discriminatory on the poor guy!
Now me, I'd only worry if AB walked in next to me, and hiked her lumberjack leg up on the wall.
bh:
never fret.
i like lots of personal space.
and i never crowd dl eunuchs whose "organs" are shorter and smaller...nahmean???
a tiny dickless drag queen like u is always safe in any restroom.
promise.
Once again, the 'Larry Craig' sidles in a mens room!
AB. I made my call on Obama after watching him speak ex tempore...no writing on the aged skin, no transceiver under the suit coat, no teleprompter.
Can't fake smarts in that situation.
Mold
amen mold!
see many revealing videos on that note here:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2Faliciabanks&ei=iz5ITdevI4jYgQeTq-WOBg&usg=AFQjCNHhThC1dlM0EZwwg8JR96TVoDj8Xg
Juanitta Broderick
"At least Jefferson didn't bite Sally Heming's lip and send goons to intimidate her."
Nah, he just enslaved her.
tea rooming bh:
not only fat assed chubby-less dl men like u enjoy peeking at other men...
het men's penis envy is real too.
try it and see yourself u tooless troll:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CB8QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rundu.com%2Ffree.htm&ei=qT9ITazOCcjLgQfvpNDgBQ&usg=AFQjCNEwciz2cH8LkOVxSabHdW6
AB
"sarah palin's IQ may be higher than hobama's...as all we know is that ONLY his teleprompter is gifted!"
Uh huh.
Now it all comes out.
The more you drill down on AB and FP you realize that they are just a couple of Aunt Jemimas cooning for the Repubs.
Star Parker and Angela McGlowan without the edge.
uts:
fix your teleprompter u moronic liar.
it is really broken!
blinded by bromance uts:
hobama is the most racist republican of all time...
he is a blackish gwb with a razor thin resume and with LEGENDARILY SHARPER RAZOR POLICIES/edges!!!!....
so
what gives edgy slashed uncle ruckus????
alicia banks said...
"tea rooming bh:
het men's penis envy is real too."
Uh huh. Yeah. Right. Who do you think is out there buying all the dildos? It's you lesbos & homos, that's who. Talk about "penis envy".
I'll bet you're ridin' a big old butt plug right about now.
bh:
like hobama
u lie!!!
most women have no vaginal orgasms
and
all homos have better bigger organs than u do!
u know you and your needy wife keep sex toy stores in business!!!
____
fn:
if u r going to church
u may want to run even faster than bh and his wife do when they are speeding to sex toy sales!
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/31/133303426/church-foreclosures-hard-times-for-gods-work
what recovery??????
bh:
tmi dl bottom!!!!
we know your needy wife plugs u!
that is why u r the proud resident sex toy expert herein!
" alicia banks said...
bh:
like hobama
u lie!!!
most women have no vaginal orgasms"
Baby, if you've got the meat and the motion, that's bullshit.
But....I think you just gave us all an insight as to why you became a carpet-muncher.
hey bh:
i hear that geriatric het pimp hugh hefner is really into sex toys too like u and your needy wife...
ever trade sex toy stock tips on the green???
http://www.amazon.com/Bunny-Tales-Izabella-St-James/dp/0762427396/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1296582906&sr=1-1
Obama be smart. Ya, so just last week he confused Iraq with Afghanistan, and said we'd be out of Afghanistan by the end of the year, which kind of startled the Afghans, but he's been pretty busy with impotent stuff
Mildew
AB - you quoted a noted conservative who is arguing that Reagan was better for Black people than Obama. Once again, you have shown your hatred of the POTUS is blind and irrational, as many of the critiques you site contradict themselves, as well as your own beliefs -- and are just down right wrong. You'll pulling anything out so long as it say "Obama = Satan".
Before you go on typical 'Hobama Nazi" please take a seat - I'm not nor have ever claimed that Barak Obama is Jesus or faultless.
But for this writer to pretend that Black poverty, addiction and imprisonment didn't explode under Red Ink Ronnie is preposterous. Because of Reagan, we have crack. How in the world is that better for Black people -- other than making sure gangsta rappers have material. (Stealing cars isn't as interesting as drug lord shootouts.) And to somehow claim that Obama was solely the cause of a rise in Black unemployment (when we all know the mess was inherent) is just stupid.
Go on, call me silly names -- but I'm point out that like most Black neo-con, this woman is talking out of her hind quarters. And just because she doesn't like Obama - doesn't make what she saying any more true or logical.
Because of Reagan, we have crack.
Sounds like you be smokin some wit a comment like dis.
hey lac:
do u realize you get more ADORING AND INSANE for hobama each day???????
ie:
HOBAMA ADORES REVERES AND PRAISES RAEGAN OPENLY AND OFTEN, AS HIS OWN PERSONAL POLITICO HERO...AS YOU REMAIN SILENT ABOUT THAT???
but u want to silence one republican who did not lie????
I RESPECT THE TRUTH FROM ANY SOURCE
HOBAMA LOVES RAYGUN THE WAY YOU LOVE HOBAMA!!!!!!!!
u r a cowardly crazed hobama nazi indeed!!!
Obama's affection for Reagan's political style carries with it a clear self-interest. White House aides gaze fondly at the arc of the Reagan presidency in part because they pray Obama's will mirror it. Both men entered office in wave elections in which the political center made a historic shift. Both faced deep economic downturns with spiking unemployment in their first term. Both relied heavily on the power of oratory. "Our hope," admits Gibbs, "is the story ends the same way."
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,2044579,00.html#ixzz1CjdglNus
yes raygun was a global crack dealer!!!
that may be one of things that emaciated crackhead hobama loves most about him!!!
http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Alliance-Contras-Cocaine-Explosion/dp/1888363932/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1296586906&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Kill-Messenger-Crack-Cocaine-Controversy-Journalist/dp/1560259302/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1296586919&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.com/Barack-Obama-Larry-Sinclair-Cocaine/dp/0578013878/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1296586935&sr=1-2
lac:
like hobama u lie
she never said that
if you cared about misery, u would admit that hobama has caused more of it than any prez!!!!
ever!!!!
wars
poverty
lies
spies
betrayals
racism
elitism
ETC!!!!!!!
take your pick drone!!!!
WHEN IS HOBAMA NOT SATANIC?????
SHOW ME HIS ANGELIC DEEDS???
and what is worse than crack lac:
endless wars
abject poverty
epidimic homelessness and joblessness
EVERYONE in the hood did not buy raygun's crack
yet NO ONE in any hood can escape the global poison of that raygun redux crackhead hobama...
who is worse???????????
The president’s State of the Union Address “had nothing to say” about “growing, fundamental economic inequalities” or the fiscal crisis engulfing city and state governments,” says Richard Wolff, Professor Emeritus of Economics at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst. The resulting damage to society “completely dwarfs anything the president was talking about.” Wolff is author of Capitalism Hits the Fan: The Global Economic Meltdown and What to Do About It.
http://blackagendareport.com/content/listen-black-agenda-radio-progressive-radio-network-glen-ford-and-nellie-bailey-19
Desertflower, "I know so many people that have been driven crazy by military life."
I know a lot more people who have been driven crazy by civilian ghetto life.
Sounds like fields is a bit homophobic.Than again, most black folks are.
I know one that must have gotten ahold of some toxic cooter.
alicia banks said...
yes raygun was a global crack dealer!!!
that may be one of things that emaciated crackhead hobama loves most about him!!!
yeah, nobody in my fam or anyones we knows did dat shit. I guess we just better dan you perm dumbasses.
bh:
u sound like all those equally ignorant church folks who harp about aids as a plague from god...yet never get how that would mean that lesbians are the chosen people.
fyi:
if all women who do not have vaginal orgasms were gay or paired with inept q-tip sized boring "shafters" like you, you and your wife would have to buy your sex toys years in advance online...bet!!!
&
each twisted pathetic post lets us know what a lousy dl lay u are!!!
do not dare pretend that you have ANY sexual skills...
oral or otherwise!!!
stick to your niche:
teaching your needy wife to strap up and dress up like a lumberjack for your dl bottom role play...& all because u have such a tiny dull axe!!!
racist junkie assnon:
ditto!
u white boys prefer that powdered cocaine or meth/crank rather than crack.
just like hobama's old veteran coke head cuz gwb
what if hobama acted like his hero and started funding the afghan and iraq wars by selling meth in trailer pks in cali...
u think sean hannity would then call him a hero as he does ronny raygun?
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CB4QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DXKQd_Ixm-jQ&ei=j2JITZCCCqba8gTI4cmkBQ&usg=AFQjCNGPqV2HLoDHT4eEPjb-_uLibBXl3g
alicia banks said...
racist junkie assnon:
ditto!
u white boys prefer that powdered cocaine or meth/crank rather than crack.
just like hobama's old veteran coke head cuz gwb
Wrong Beyaatch...we aint stupid enuff to do any o dat shit..why u call me a junkie...you do one hooked on snatch we leave dem drugs to da wiggers and you and your fam wut a bunch o shitheads
Obama likes st reagan because st reagan was able to sell poverty, joblessness, and reduced social mobility to the Heeyucks. Even now, they beg to be made serfs...in the faulty beleef that it will somehow be someone else.
Being one of the 'talented tenth', Obama and his family will not 'sacrifice' to appease the Austerian gods...nor will they mingle with such Untermensch as Rite-Two-Lifers.
AB as much as Obama policies are slight-right R...I prefer him to the TeaBagger wingnuts who refuse Reality...as it ticks off Liberals. But then, I can find suitable employment.
Mold
mold:
hobama is allowed to be a rabid republican ONLY because he is blackish...
that makes him MORE dangerous than racist white repub clones...NOT less!
The president harkened back to “the debate that we had during health care” when much of his party complained that he was too “willing to compromise” with Republicans and bargained away the public option. Actually, Obama was determined from the start of his presidency to conspire with Republicans and corporate leaders to derail any possibility of a bill that might set the stage for single-payer legislation in 2009 or some future Congress. Instead, Obama protected private insurers by locking them so tightly into the system that it will be near impossible to dislodge them in the foreseeable future. Obama accomplished this, not just by ruthlessly marginalizing single-payer supporters, but also by choosing his own congressional operatives and effectively bypassing Democratic leadership – much the same m.o. as in his latest “compromise” with the GOP. He wielded the power of the White House and the false lure of bipartisanism to utterly smash the left half of his party, deriding the dwindling “public option” holdouts as starry-eyed perfectionists who had become the enemies of the good – a performance he reprised on Tuesday in lambasting critics of deal with the GOP on taxes on the rich.
In the course of the long health care battle – a struggle waged entirely within Democratic ranks –Obama let the air out of the Democratic balloon, and the GOP steadily rose from its valley of near-death. The Republicans wound up conceding nothing on health care, while their corporate patrons won more than they could have dared imagine back on Election Day, 2008, when it seemed that single-payer was an idea whose time had come
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obama-republicans-reliable-interlocutor
AB as much as Obama policies are slight-right R...I prefer him to the TeaBagger wingnuts who refuse Reality...as it ticks off Liberals. But then, I can find suitable employment.
Mold
Lookey Here - the 2 resident nutcases are sympatico.
inbred mangy canine assnon:
when a trailer park mutt like u calls anyone a bitch...are u just imagining that they are your stray mom?
mold:
ditto
but i think the MAIN reason hobama adores raygun is because raygun really hated and ignored poor black mongrels too!
LACoincidental actually said...: "But for this writer to pretend that Black poverty, addiction and imprisonment didn't explode under Red Ink Ronnie is preposterous. Because of Reagan, we have crack."
Not only are you wrong, you are one crazy cat.
Seriously dude, you should ask for your money back from that Ivy league college you went to.
mold:
there are racists and fools everywhere.
most of the tea partiers are just poor RIGHTEOUSLY angry white rebel mongrels!
they were blind to king shrub until his blackish redux via hobama awakened them!!!
there are FAR more racists by percentage in congress/hobama's inner circle/regime etc...
ie
this blog is a magnet for the highest percentage of hobama nazis online...that is why i love it!!!
http://www.amazon.com/Thats-Angry-Mob-Mom-Talk-Radio/dp/1596986190/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1296590732&sr=1-1
the tea party ignored the sins of king shrub the VERY same way that black hobama nazis are ignoring hobama's CURRENT ESCALATING FATAL WORSE sins....
better late than never!!!
hey lac:
wtf is angelic about hobama?????
When US president Barack Obama introduced his tax proposal on Monday, he presented it as a compromise with Republicans that extended tax cuts for the wealthy as a necessary component of a package that will benefit the “middle class.” In fact, the measure is a boondoggle to the wealthy that will actually raise taxes for many working people.
An analysis of the plan shows that Obama has adopted the bulk of the Republican tax program, while eliminating programs currently in place that benefit lower income earners.
For the more than 40 percent of households with income less than $40,000 per year, federal taxes will increase under the proposal. This is because Obama’s plan will allow the Making Work Pay tax credit, which gives $800 per household or $400 per individual, to lapse.
The new tax breaks included in Obama’s plan will “come to a few dollars a week,” for these workers, Roberton Williams of the Tax Policy Center told the New York Times, but will not offset the loss.
However, the tax plan gives a bonanza to the rich, with members of the top income bracket getting on average tax breaks of $70,000 apiece, according to one estimate.
This includes the renewal of income tax cuts to earners in the top two tax brackets, which will cost $75 billion over two years.
Obama’s proposed cut to the estate tax will cost a further $88 billion, which will go almost entirely to the wealthy. The tax, which is applied to the inheritance of wealth, was temporarily repealed in 2010, under the terms that it be reinstated in 2011 at a rate of 55 percent on estates over $1 million. Obama’s plan calls for cutting this rate to 35 percent on estates over $5 million.
The proposal also includes hundreds of billions in additional tax cuts to big business. Most prominently, the administration has proposed a $200 billion program that would allow companies to immediately write off 100 percent of their expenses in equipment and software, which are currently deducted over several years.
Obama also proposes to make permanent the research and development tax credit, a handout to the software and technology sector that has been renewed 13 times since its inception in 1981. The total cost of making the credit permanent is estimated at $100 billion.
Compared to these cuts, together totaling to $463 billion, the temporary extension of unemployment benefits is a pittance. The measure, which determines whether millions of people will be able to eat, has been estimated to cost only $56 billion. The extension lasts a mere 13 months, compared to two years for the high
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/dec2010/taxc-d09.shtml
AB, the TeaBaggers liked it when bush was teh Wite Queen...and hates that any AfAm gets a chance.
Obama seems to be more adult and competent and able...and slight-right R. We all hoped for a greater man...and he still could be. For now, he likes the Hoover role.
Mold
mold:
i disagree vehemently.
we agree to disagree.
hobama has spent more on banksters and golfed more and abused poor people MORE in 2 yrs that king shrub did in 8!
hobama is MORE evil than gwb.
and gwb was an evil moron but he did not pretend that he was a saint/messiah as hobama STILL does!!!
he did not pretend he was a pacifist or not racist either!
and gwb never told us on tv:
"u mongrels better not ask me for
*hit"!!!...
if abe l had done that
we would all still be slaves
Ab, I would agree that Obama is more than dismissive of the lowers of the AfAm population...but I would posit it is a condition of being elite and conscious of that fact.
Obama IS President of the US
wingnuts are kings of the Underpants Gnomes.
Mold
mold:
i bashed king shrub daily for 8 yrs...and not one soul dared to defend him in any way.
i find his blackish clone hobama even MORE indefensible!!!...
because no one ever loved that moron gwb the way suicidal black racist fools still adore hobama!
i will never vote again because most politicos who run dc are even dumber than sarah p...blackish sock puppet telepromptered hologram hoax hobama included!!!
what could be more satanic than duping and robbing the poor and sick????
There is no difficulty, intellectually or technically, in devising a rational healthcare system. Advances in science and technology make it possible to deliver adequate healthcare services to the entire population at a fraction of the current cost. Every person should have access to healthcare as a basic right and be able to choose their own doctor and receive treatment at a modern, clean, well-run facility, run as a public utility either at no cost to patients at all, or with a modest fee. Medical bills should be relegated to the museum of antiquities, along with the saws used to conduct surgery without anesthesia.
But such a system would require putting an end to the private, profit-making medical industry, one of the most lucrative sources of wealth for the financial aristocracy that rules America. The pharmaceutical and medical equipment companies, the insurance industry, and the hospital and nursing home chains would be nationalized and operated under democratic control as a public service—a transformation that the vast majority of the American people would applaud.
Despite the fevered rhetoric of the ultra-right, the Obama administration’s plans have nothing in common with such a restructuring of the healthcare system along socialist lines. On the contrary, Obama has repeatedly sought to reassure the profiteers that their interests will be looked after and that they are better off at the table, working with him, than outside. The for-profit healthcare and insurance firms have taken up this offer with enthusiasm.
A major reason for the changed posture of the corporations is the financial crisis sweeping world capitalism. They see Obama’s healthcare “reform” as an opportunity to join the banks and speculators in raiding the federal treasury. These concerns are evident in the plans being drafted at the White House and by congressional committees.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jun2009/pers-j08.shtml
Go to Cheers if you need some fewllowship;-) The opiad of the masses, ahhhhhh.
The pharmaceutical and medical equipment companies, the insurance industry, and the hospital and nursing home chains would be nationalized and operated under democratic control as a public service
AB - Operated under democratic control as a public service.
Nice fantasy here but nowhere did it say how all of the people involved in the health care would make their living and who would pay the costs for the "democratic" Free healthcare. So how would this work? Would eveyone involved in providing healthcare need to do it for free or be enslaved? How will they feed their families? Nationalized? you mean like in Cuba and Venezuala?
anon:
i am not a repub
or a dem
i am independent
and anti-gov
and i have said many times that i wish a real prez would have taken
1/10 of the 23 trillion hobama gave to banksters
and established 24 hr free clinics
funded by states
labs for med students
free to poor
sliding scale fees for others
etc
and had allowed others who were happy/rich with insurance plans to keep what they had
it is not rocket sci
and unlike cash for clunkers and hobamacare for pharmacorps or the failed HAMP...this would actually work easily
hobama lied about mandating this bailout for med corps and he is lying still!!!!!!
http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/30/obama-health-care-reform-opinions-columnists-public-option-medicare.html
During the campaign, Obama insisted that he would not resort to an individual mandate to achieve universal coverage. In fact, he repeatedly ripped Hillary Clinton's plan for proposing one. "To force people to buy coverage," he insisted, "you've got to have a very harsh penalty." What will this penalty be, he demanded? "Are you going to garnish their wages?" he asked Hillary in one debate.
Yet now, Obama is behaving as if he said never a hostile word about the mandate. Earlier this month, in a letter to Sens. Max Baucus, D-Mont., and Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., he blithely declared that he was all for "making every American responsible for having health insurance coverage, and making employers share in the cost."
But just like Hillary, he is refusing to say precisely what he will do to those who want to forgo insurance. There is a name for such a health care approach: It is called TonySopranoCare.
PilotX said...
Go to Cheers if you need some fewllowship;-) The opiad of the masses, ahhhhhh.
Mold....sorry once again don't get what you are trying to say could you tighten those under-oos and see if you can squeeze out a coherent post? Whats an opiad? Is that like an opiate? Or Opiod?
AB your right. Obama is a blowhard, he also said during the same interview that he disagree with Hillary cause if it were as easy as forcing people to buy something then he would mandate everyone buy a house to end homelessness. What a blowhard, he didnt even put up his own plan,Obamacare is hillary care 2.0
PilotX said...
"Whats an opiad?"
It's like an iPad, but only Mold can see it.
anon:
thanks!
ditto
and do u recall all the people who crucified hillary because she only voted for war???..
the same people who have said NOTHING about how hobama has LEGENDARILY bloodily ESCALATED the very same war/s????????
hobama has become a WORSE war criminal than king shrub and dick c...but there is only silence since 2008...
shame!!!!!!
http://aliciabanks.xanga.com
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CB8QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0eyTCJvISbY&ei=6HlITbi-OYS49QSHrojYCA&usg=AFQjCNF_i4Qhj4AltSTcYQHkUB95OHmSBA
wow. abreallyinsaneracistheterophobe, you ripped a post right off the socialist workers website?! how is it that obama is simultaneously a bankster (which you ripped off from dylan ratigan, BTW) and a socialist?! that's what you teabaggers believe.
lordy, you do make me laugh!!!!!
I swallow, therefore I am.
hugs xo
Rev. Right said...
PilotX said...
"Whats an opiad?"
It's like an iPad, but only Mold can see it.
LOL!!!Now that is funny. I dont know why but seeing mold and pad together made me think of tampons, maybe he is really white, uptight and outta-sight he sure as shit is outta his mind.
Maria Said....
that's what you teabaggers believe.
Now Maria, I told you to stop using those bad names, for every teabagger there must be a teabagee and you aint gettin any no matter how much you beg me to dip my delicious balls in your garlicy mouth it aint gonna happen. I know where you been!!! Us real Italians don't like the things you have done. Your damaged goods.
mareallyretarded:
i link all i post.
hobama is a socialist for the rich.
cc a pasted lie u cackling hobama cultish trick!
mareally dyslexic:
wtf are u chirping about u swirled chicken head???
ie
cc anything that says hobama is a socialist that i posted...
your literacy skills are more inept than your holistic meds for chronic jungle fever u fool.
mareally ignorant:
that is a socialist web site that pens classic scathing truths about hobama...
who told u that meant hobama was a socialist...duh????????
mareally dimwitted:
the entire usa was ripped off from native americans...
u fret over that too?
ie
alex jones and glen ford coined banksters since 2008...
from whom did u rip off:
"i am a black maytag"
linguistic originality is evenmore rare than your belated brat support checks!
get over that!
hey fn:
who coined wingnuts and teabaggers??
mareally anal retentive may want to fret over that too
mareally in denial:
reminders:
why should i love hobama?
why does he hate medicare?
???????
Why is it being attacked?
Because it is good and the private insurance industry doesn’t like that a bit. Its administrative costs are 3.5% versus their 15-20%. Medicare doesn’t have the high costs of $15 million CEO salaries, bonuses, stock options, marketing costs, broker sales commissions, actuarial costs, shareholder profits, nor even the political campaign contributions that get passed on to the patient.
And to understand why politicians are attacking it you’d have to look closely at the $125 million in campaign contributions they received in the last year. Go figure
Is Medicare socialized medicine?
No, but what if it were? One of the best medical systems in the U.S. is “socialized,” which is doctors salaried by the government and working in government hospitals. That’s the V.A. Hospitals, Bethesda Naval Center and other armed forces centers. The best in the world.
But Medicare is 95% private… private doctors putting their patients in private hospitals, but billing the state’s private Medicare contractor (in Wisconsin that’s WPS in Madison).
The reason it got congressional approval in the first place is that private insurance companies can give campaign contributions and Medicare cannot. And that’s a major slap at our corrupt political system, and the politicians that voted it into place.
These politicians should be ashamed and in jail, but the public should be irate. This same pay-to-play political corruption has trashed our economy. It bought all of the trade laws that outsourced our jobs to other countries. Get the bribes out of health care politics and you’d be surprised at the progress we could make.
http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/should-we-privatize-medicare/
mareally needs glasses:
sit close.
see banksters.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVebOTc-7shU&ei=CYRITdaGJM3ngQeRk53-BQ&usg=AFQjCNE6ud8cNmRi0lCrnNEFCZIFGwaMdw
fn:
seen this?
this is why real parents feel it is better they go to jail than send their kids to public schools!
and teachers are locked in classes with these thugs all day!
shame!!!
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/02/01/2011-02-01_teens_arrested_after_posting_youtube_video_of_beating_13yearold_boy_and_hanging_.html
it is not my job to comment on everything obama does, or doesn't do.
it is not my job to respond to you twisting what i say, saying the opposite of what i say, or to things i didn't say at all.
you are a complete waste of time/space/breath.
I've had farts with more substance than AB.
Probably smelled better, too.
From the myriad of hyperbolic rants against me, AB and the myriad of wing nut Anons who somehow were asleep during the 80's (The Iran-Contra affair was partly was about Reagan funding SA cocaine cartels to funds his anti-Commie campaigns. Go Read A Book.), I think you just proved me point. In fact, you proved my point in full blown stereo.
As Maria pointed out, Alicia, you can't site InfoWars, Fox News and the World Socialist Worker and expect to get a logical, coherent view of Obama. The far right and the far left simply hate Obama just to hate him -- but their underpinning philosophies are so vastly different that they simply can't co-exist.
If both the lunatic far right and the out of touch far left are right (and that tinfoil nexus were both meet and try to avoid), then Obama a political schizophrenic. He's either a Marxist dictator hellbent on turning us into Cuba, New World order plant controlled by the Elders of Zion and the Bildebergs or a pandering puppet to the financial elites. (I lean towards the latter, personally.) But you can't have the man be all three.
And most of the information that those sites pull up are either easily disproved or slanted in their POV.
Again, to reemphasize UTS's point, do something with your time and your intellect other than search for the same old tired conspiracy theories about Obama. There are plenty of legitimate, proven things to criticize the man on other than pulling weird, unproven or disproved crap off web.
Or, just take a few days off and do something else. You must have other things to do (since you work in my field, allegedly) other than rant crazily on the web.
@ LAC: Listen to you criticize AB for parroting crazy ass shit, when you yourself are a veritable fount of convential liberal wisdom spiced with leftist fantasies (e.g. Reagan invented crack!).
Whether you realize or not, you are "the out of touch far left", man.
lac:
did they lie????
i respect the truth from any source.
why is it ok with you that raygun is hobama's hero????
lac:
all scholars!
all conspiracy!
no theory!
all the time!
do we lie??????
see OUR truths becoming more evident each doomed day!!!!
we told u so!
http://aliciabanks.xanga.com
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DeAaQNACwaLw&ei=DZNITej5DYSBlAfJ94ykBA&usg=AFQjCNFPJXbtv8sOQHsqlPAhV7fDyfY5AQ
mareally a hypocrite:
it is not your job to police jargon/slogans/lingo.
it is your job to wtfu.
and you are fired u racist clueless inept bitch!!!!
flatulent fool bh:
u r so vulgar and dumb?
are u the vdlr's daddy?
did your tiny axe chop down one hood rat?...
lac/uts:
i am faster and smarter than u both combined...
learn to debate better than u bogart as blog police.
finding facts trumps keystone kkkopping.
i easily slay u hobama nazis far better than u evade and silence me.
lac:
u and uts live here u scared envious hypcorite.
and u will never silence or direct me.
get over that as you keep your eye on that cia hoax hobama.
AB, "mareally dyslexic:
wtf are u chirping about u swirled chicken head???"
AB, please stop. Between you slaying bloodhound, UTS, Lac, and Maria, I can't stop laughing. When you slay, you don't half-step, you go all the way...ROFL..
You are the great warrior and great slayer. None of them together possessed enough skills to defeat you.
Sammy Davis III said...
@ LAC: Listen to you criticize AB for parroting crazy ass shit, when you yourself are a veritable fount of convential liberal wisdom spiced with leftist fantasies (e.g. Reagan invented crack!).
Whether you realize or not, you are "the out of touch far left", man.
6:00 PM
Oh Mister Candyman, if only you had the reading comprehension of a fourth grader.
I never said that Reagan had Jim Baker and Pappy Bush weighing snowflakes and mixing it with baking soda and rat poisoning. The Reagan Administration funded known cocaine smugglers through Iran-Contra. Its that simple -- if Reagan weren't waging war games, the Contras wouldn't have the money or the guns to run their drug cartels in the 80's. This isn't some wild-eye liberal fantasy, this is known fact from Congressional hearings and DOJ investigations.
@AB - either those sites present slanderous information or just flat out get it wrong. So yes, more often than not, they do lie, and hope the neurotic fools like you believe the bull their selling.
You literally quoted a known quack, Alex Jones, who thinks Obama was a CIA hatchling. The 'conservative sista' from the News One article got things so damn wrong my fingers would go numb just writing. You expect us to take that crap seriously?
The WSWS? Their initial analysis is usually good, but their solutions are either short-sighted or would only fly in a dictatorship. More often than not they're siting the same Trotskyite drivel since the 80's. I stop listening to the likes many socialists, Greens and other fellow travelers because they rarely have anything new to say.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_class_does_the_drug_the_Heroin_fall_under
Dear god the ignorance of the conservatrolls never ceases! President, I demand action!
OK, I was lead astray. Opiate, are we all happy now? Now back to regular programming.
anon:
thanks!
i suffer fools gladly herein daily...
especially fools like lac and maria who blindly adore hobama so very much that they dismiss or ignore EVERY source of truth about him....
even hobama's own truths about himself...ie hobama's own scripted speeches/raygun worship/etc
shame!!!!!
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