There are others aspects of this story that I found somewhat depressing as well, and it is the behavior of America's new hero, Charles (Chuck) Ramsey, the neighbor who allegedly rescued one of the women.
I am sure that you all know Charles by now, he is an Internet sensation and folks are eating up the fast talking dishwasher who seemed to be more at ease on the camera than the reporters who were reporting the story.
Of course you Negroes all know the drill when it comes to news crews in the hood: they always seem to try to find the most ignorant person to interview. With my man Charles it looks like they hit the jackpot.
Charles, if his account of the event is true, is a hero, and he should be given all the credit and praise that heroes deserve. But sadly, Charles, like so many Negroes living in America, seems to be trapped in a state of mental slavery.
His line about the "pretty little white girl" was cringe worthy. I am glad for his candor, but it says a lot about poor Charles Ramsey and where his head is.
I am sure that I am in the minority with this observation, (I feel like Sgt. Waters in a Soldier's Story) because I have seen the love Charles is getting from all quarters. Folks are sending him money and even trying to get him an audience with his Oness. But they are not doing it because his openness and honesty made public an "uncomfortable truth about race relations in America", ( I saw the news man trying to cut him off as well) rather, I suspect, that many of them are loving his act because he reinforces their stereotypes, and he came off in those interviews in perfect character as the kind of Negro that some Americans just love.
Charles, they are laughing at you, not with you.
If only I thought Charles was the reading kind I would leave him with the following quote from Carter G. Woodson.*
“If you can control a man’s thinking, you don’t have to worry about his actions. If you can determine what a man thinks you do not have worry about what he will do. If you can make a man believe that he is inferior, you don’t have to compel him to seek an inferior status, he will do so without being told and if you can make a man believe that he is justly an outcast, you don’t have to order him to the back door, he will go to the back door on his own and if there is no back door, the very nature of the man will demand that you build one.”
Calling Sgt. Waters.
103 comments:
And here I thought you'd be writing about the Cleveland Strangler and how the CPD let him prey on black women with impunity despite chance after chance to find and stop him.
Oh Field, Field, Field, Field, Field, Field, Field....tsp, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk,
But, you're right of course! :) it's like the Sweet Brown thing.
And, what's he talking about? How many purty white girls wouldn't run into your arms if you let them and weren't married? Heck, a bunch I bet!!! What the he'll is he talking about? ;)))
But thank God he was there. And he is a hero! But you know I really wonder how the heck that whole thing happened? 10 years??? And those beatches didn't run???
Man, iunno,*shaking head*
Love ya Field!!
Field, I have a suggestion for the TV event of the year. The folks over at the Daytime TV show "The Talk" should make arrangements for Mr. Charles Ramsey to appear on the show. A block buster feature of Mr. ramsey's appearance would be a "frolicking interview" with the show's Ramsey style interlocutor, Ms. Sheryl Underwood.
The daytime white audience size for this show would likely break all records just in the sheer anticipation of these two Negro personalities meeting up on live TV.
Field:
Fortunately the Afrikan Cleveland rapist and killer will never see the light of day again.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/13/anthony-sowell-rape-kidnapping_n_959692.html#s314099
Anthony Sowell, Convicted Cleveland Serial Killer, Has Rape And Kidnapping Charges Dropped By Judge
CLEVELAND -- A serial killer already sentenced to death for killing 11 women and dumping their remains around his house and property laughed and said the state had no case as a judge dismissed remaining rape and kidnapping charges against him on Monday.
The cases were dismissed at the prosecutor's request to save additional trial costs and spare two women who testified at Anthony Sowell's murder trial from having to testify again. Jurors said the grueling testimony of survivors was important in convicting Sowell, 52.
The women, Tanja Doss and Vanessa Gay, endorsed dismissing the charges, according to assistant Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Mahmoud Awadallah. The women did not appear in court.
The two "have already gone through a lot of stress telling their story," Awadallah said after the court session
Milagros said:
.That was 2 yrs ago duh! Moving tight along
No matter what this brother looks like or sounds like he took action along with another Borinqua.
Maybe with more blessings he can help himself.
Also, what does what he looks like or how he speaks have to do with why he did?
Saving a life is no small thing not at all. How many have done it?
Bottom line small minds think of small issues and often have small pocketbooks
Great minds often think big and make huge contributions..? HELLO~!
A lot of our Boriquen assoc are mad as hell at the Castros and well they should be
just saying!
FLA look out here they come lol
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/06/the-cicadas-are-coming-locusts-17-years_n_3223584.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
The Cicadas Are Coming: Billions Of Insects To Emerge After 17 Years Underground
People Esp WOMBMAN!
I would bet $$ that had this happened to many women they would do the same thing STAY put
Why ask why a woman does not run Who does that? Don't start me!
STUDY! answer the question
Carter G Woodson
Oh lawd! Thanks Anon, and it's not even football season. No excuse to say Charles instead of Carter. :)
Mantanzas, is this the end of time? Locusts?
Field, "There are others aspects of this story that I found somewhat depressing as well, and it is the behavior of America's new hero, Charles (Chuck) Ramsey, the neighbor who allegedly rescued one of the women."
For once, I agree with you, Field. But please don't let that go to your head. Chuck Ramsey depressed the hell out of me while he was uplifting ALL White America.
The most depressing aspect about the interview was that it became very very apparent that this man had no pride or "dignity" whatsoever. However, he DID display to everyone the nature of a bm that everyone wants to see and believe.
That ignoramus might just make a million dollars which, of course, will fritter it away like any ignorant Negro will do.
I don't think Obama will have him at the WH. Chuck will make any Black person cringe inside because he is the spitting image of an 'unconscious' self-deprecating illiterate Negro who is happy he has a job as a dishwasher and cannot 'image' doing any better.
It's depressing to be a bm in America.
depressed Negro
WC, the worst job in. America for the next few days will be the spokesperson for the Cleveland PD.
Yes Mr Field, the locusts coming marks the beginning of the end.
When are the frogs coming?
All Charles needed was rollers in his head.
field negro said...
Mantanzas, is this the end of time? Locusts?
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LOL! FIELD! You comedian! Stop it!
This is serious! *rolling eyes* Billions and billions! That means the Earth will deflate a little when they come out and sinkholes will or may form right?
Plus, THEY'RE GONNA EAT ALL THE FOOOOOD!!!!!
NO FOOOOD FIELD!!!!!! Heeeeeeeelp, I'm hungry already!!! What good are those locusts anyway?
Nature must have a purpose for them right?
Don't even go there about the frogs Field, it's not funny. I skeeeeered!
You wont be laughing when the foood is gone and we'll be reduced to...to....I can't say it...this is awful...Anon..somebody...heeeelp!
You're doing too much with this article. The reporters didn't "find" the guy to interview him. He's the one that saved these women's lives. Just because he's a little animated doesn't make him a coon.
This is one of the first times all the white people are calling this dude a hero and all the black folk are cringing because not all black people got sticks up their asses and talk like you want them to talk.
"This is one of the first times all the white people are calling this dude a hero".....
Yes, I guess we have arrived. *shaking head*.
How many educated people would actually get involve? Those women were held capture for 10 plus year and no came to their rescue. I like Mr. Charles. Yes. he is a little out there, however those young women are now with family. I rather have a clown hero than well spoken coward in this incident. WE have to give credit is due. Mr. Charles got INVOLVE and save those women. We dont know if there were others that did not survive the kidnapping. We should be thanking him and he should have his beer feast with the President and be handsome rewarded for his actions.
mesha said...
"How many educated people would actually get involve? Those women were held capture for 10 plus year and no came to their rescue. I like Mr. Charles. Yes. he is a little out there, however those young women are now with family. I rather have a clown hero than well spoken coward in this incident. WE have to give credit is due. Mr. Charles got INVOLVE and save those women. We dont know if there were others that did not survive the kidnapping. We should be thanking him and he should have his beer feast with the President and be handsome rewarded for his actions
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I totally agree! I just read as well,that several neighbors had called police to report naked women being led around on dog leashes in the yard.
The police never went and have no record of this!
Unbelievable
IN other news today
Apparently, America's favorite man-pig hybrid, is blaming his nemesis, those vagina-totin' enemies of freedom, "femenazis" for chasing advertisers away from his radio spew. Independent analyses has found something too this -at least as far as gender reaction goes. Women seem to have been so offended by his misogynistic attack on Sandra Fluke last Spring that corporate advertising buyers are leery of identifying their products with the pig-man's offensive persona lest women take offense.
Despite the pig-man's oft-stated reverence for the free market, he seems less than enthusiastic about this market response to his misogyny. Industry insiders characterize the pig-man's problem as catastrophic and generational:
“We’re watching the end of right-wing conservative talk radio,” says Jerry Del Colliano, publisher of the radio-industry tip sheet Inside Music Media. “The genre is dying among ratings and dying among advertisers ... Rush is at the end of his career. His constituency is all wearing Depends. And he’s getting himself into trouble he doesn’t need. So can you put Humpty Dumpty back together again? They have been able to improve their advertising picture, but they have not been able to come back.”
“Sandra Fluke was simply the lightning that struck and hit an old building that collapsed,” Colliano says. “She didn’t do it. She helped to bring it down at the end, but it was falling apart on its own.”
Rush slammed the 30-year-old graduate student Sandra Fluke last year, referring to her as a “slut” and a “prostitute” in response to her call to have her university provide insurance that covered contraceptives. He then doubled down on the attack in unusually creepy terms:
“If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it, and I’ll tell you what it is: we want you to post the videos online so we can all watch."
"The blowback was immediate. Elected Republicans, usually loathe to offend the influential talker, distanced themselves from his comments. But more powerful was the boycott that ensued, with 98 advertisers pulling their support for the show."
Whitey's Conspiracy said...
"IN other news today
...His constituency is all wearing Depends.”
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HEEEEEY!!! Wait a minute buddy! There's a lot to be said for Depends!
Not that I would personally know, but I've heard!
I guess Depends could buy spots on his show? ;p
ICAM about the guy being cringe-worthy. I'm glad he was able to help the young women.
This should not be about Charles Ramsey. He has been described as a man who goes to work, is friendly/neighborly, and clearly has a heart. The things that you all point out as cringe worthy are that way because of the society we live in and the limited opportunities that exist for people of color, particularly blacks. The availability of healthy food (McDonalds), the ideals of beauty (pretty white girl), and more. I actually think his interview though short, sums of the concept of race and class in America yesterday and today.
Whitey is fucking insane.
Get a life, dude.
Nobody's talking to me. I need support I should have known I couldn't depend on you Negroes.It's the same ole story: Negroes abandon Negroes in need.
I'm never going to comment on FN again. Field, you are a rat-fink.
depressed Negro
“If you can control a man’s thinking, you don’t have to worry about his actions. If you can determine what a man thinks you do not have worry about what he will do. If you can make a man believe that he is inferior, you don’t have to compel him to seek an inferior status, he will do so without being told and if you can make a man believe that he is justly an outcast, you don’t have to order him to the back door, he will go to the back door on his own and if there is no back door, the very nature of the man will demand that you build one.”
Great quote. Unfortunately it has been true for AAs since slavery. Not a lot has changed in our thinking since the Jim Crow days. MLK came along, but Woodson's quote remains just as true today for us as it did in the past for us.
Anonymous said...
Nobody's talking to me. I need support....Field you are a rat-fink.
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Yep that seals it! "rat-fink" is not only white trash talk, but it's 60's trash talk LOL!!!
You're showing your age"dude";p
Desertflower said...
I guess Depends could buy spots on his show? ;p
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Not to mention being handy around the studio with a man-pig hybrid rooting around it. Better than just walking in the dreck anyway; too bad it can't absorb the other dreck he spews.
Whitey's Conspiracy said...
"Not to mention being handy around the studio with a man-pig hybrid rooting around it. Better than just walking in the dreck anyway; too bad it can't absorb the other dreck he spews.
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Exactly! He's kinda crazy. Kinda reminds me of the 'preppers' :)
They always seem to find the most ignorant person to interview. – Field Negro
Charles Rumsey wasn’t even near being poignant or eloquent. On the other hand, he didn’t ask to be interviewed nor did he asked to be the rescuer of these women. He just happened to be at the right place at the right time. At least he’s not the perpetrator of this crime in Cleveland. GOOD CHARLES JOB!
Sage it's like the commenter above said , somebody else maybe wouldn't have even become involved!
But he saw the desperation in her demeanor and words and knew this was for real.
He kicked open that door and set her free! God bless him. As has been said maybe someone else would hdve continued on by and not want to become involved!
He should be very proud of himself! And the families very grateful!
I was in a class once with this white girl who didn't believe racial profiling was real. Or she though it might happen other places but not where we live.
The professor had to explain to her that this is her reality. We might not understand it and she may be wrong, but it's her reality.
In Charles Ramsey's reality, young white girls don't run up to black men unless they are in need of dire help.
To me, it's not cringe worthy because he said it. To me, it's cringe worthy because it's still true in 2013 and white folks will only see what the dog and pony show they want to see. The truth of what he said and why will wash right over them.
They'll do what that reporter did. Blush a little, give a little smile and laugh it off. And even though Mr. Ramsey repeated it again, the reporter still didn't see that as important or true, just Mr. Ramsey being "a character."
That fault is theirs, not Mr. Ramsey's.
"His line about the "pretty little white girl" was cringe worthy.... but it says a lot about poor Charles Ramsey and where his head is."
..."I suspect, that many of them are loving his act because he reinforces their stereotypes, and he came off in those interviews in perfect character as the kind of Negro that some Americans just love.
Charles, they are laughing at you, not with you. "
Those statements above were worth quoting. Field, thank you for saying it. Earlier in the day I was battling with the same sentiments. Hero or not, that self-humiliating comment and his mannerism turned me off.
On FB, I read a few comments from other prideless black males who took offense to the white reporter's dismissal, they felt they didn't want to hear the truth about the "black man's pain regarding white girls". I almost puked. But thank you Field for putting it in such perspective, and for showing the pride and intellect of at least one dignified black man on this matter.
Those poor women. It still breaks my heart knowing the amount of women/children who go missing daily, and what feelings this news might be re-hashing for families of those still missing. Pure emotional and psychological torture.
I understand the remark Brother Charles made. I heard it as a generational reply. Coming from the civil rights era, many Blacks still to this day harbor silent fears about white women and the close proximity of certain situations. This fear in some context is innate to many Black men....if you don't buy that ask the question; would you want to run out of gas at night in many Southern towns with a white women in tow. I am aware that times have changed, but the message have not been absorbed by all on both side of the racial spectrum. Include the Dakotas in the mix. What I saw was no one plans to be a hero, excluding our(America) newly labeled first responders. So I felt a sense of pride when someone that looks like the people I see daily becomes a hero I am happy that he is me. By the way, when they stick that microphone in my face...I will liable to include the injustice of America past and present. What will you say? On a serious note...too many of us live "third world" and sometimes our actions cause the national spotlight to be there for a moment. StillaPanther2
"In Charles Ramsey's reality, young white girls don't run up to black men unless they are in need of dire help... To me, it's not cringe worthy because he said it. To me, it's cringe worthy because it's still true in 2013"
Why should any black man think such importance of having a young [pretty lil] white girl run up to him or not? Why should that be so meaningful? This too is the type of undignified thinking that has some of us cringing. Clearly the reporter didn't want to go there, it was so irrelevant under the circumstances. I mean really...
"Of course you Negroes all know the drill when it comes to news crews in the hood: they always seem to try to find the most ignorant person to interview."
I don't think that's fair, frankly. Ramsey didn't act or sound ignorant in any of the interviews I've viewed. In the 911 call, he asks the dispatcher to put himself in the woman's shoes, he tells Anderson Cooper that he bleeds like everyone else, he has a gallows humor and cracks jokes, he expresses disbelief at what his neighbors did, and he says he has trouble sleeping now knowing that women were being raped and tortured in the next house over. He doesn't like the attention he's getting, and he doesn't want a reward. I just don't understand your calling him "ignorant." I've no doubt that the first reporters on the scene expected him to be an idiot and were happy to try to exploit that--but he's not.
Ten years of hell for those women. I have guys like Charles Ramsey in my neighborhood. Affable men but it's difficult to extricate oneself from conversations with them. I think as the investigation proceeds, they will find more people who had suspicions about that house & either did nothing or tried to do something & weren't taken seriously. It's also not unknown here to see light skinned children with a dark-skinned parent.
very surprising comments to me and the fact I have realized is - maybe I am guilty as charged....I loved the interview, thought he was funny, though i think the pretty white girl remark was really him trying to be a little comedic on purpose, not his inner thoughts coming out. I just see it as a guy who is pretty outgoing hamming it up a bit - but i see your perspective as well that he may be seen as many white people as a caricature(yes I am white, but I did not see him that way)This may be a horribly racist thing to say and if so i apologize but the pretty white girl thing probably would not apply in the suburbs and had charles been wearing a suit as much as it does in what appears to be the hood(from what i saw of it) or at least a blue collar neighborhood. When i saw Sweet Brown interview i actually thought she was a great lady with a great attitude, someone you would like to be around, not as a comedian but just a good, sincere person.....I don't know...just a peek into a white guys mind for you guys....
Intrresting comments from some different perspectives.I will stick with my original premise:sadly, there is still a lot of mental slavery here in a America.
The only thing. We SHOULD. be discussing is the depravity of the individuals that held innoncent women and. Children for years on end....yet here we see STEPHEN ..attack the hero....who cares about how he talks you fake ass field negro....
Desertflower said, .... "Desertflower said, …. He kicked open that door and set her free! God bless him. As has been said maybe someone else would hdve continued on by and not want to become involved! He should be very proud of himself! And the families very grateful!
You’re correct Desert. The problem here is that too many people of color today are in fact self loathing, just like Stephen Clarence Thomas who sits on the U.S. Supreme. These are the types of people that first go through a life long process hating whites due to the injustices they’ve inflicted upon blacks across the globe. Secondly, they begin internalize and hate themselves by projecting this anger upon those of his or her own heritage. And lastly, they begin to hate their own skin tone and others who also share it so much that they begin to enunciate the same sentiments of whites regarding people of color.
For a short period of time I was flummoxed by people like this. I wondered why would a person of color say such demeaning things about another black or brown person. And then it was as if a light bulb was turned in my head. Folks like Stephen Clarence Thomas speak ill of other people of color because they strongly seek ACCEPTANCE from whites. When the time arise to speak good of another person of color, they eschew this opportunity and find something that doesn’t quite fit the topic at hand.
So long as we have people that speak of other persons of color like this, all of us who adorn black and brown skin, will never escape the white man’s snake pit of racism. It’s just that darn simple, period!
9:02 PM
field negro said...
Matanzas, is this the end of time? Locusts?
Not yet Field the show is just beginning
field negro said...
"This is one of the first times all the white people are calling this dude a hero".....
Yes, I guess we have arrived. *shaking head*.
Milagros said
Ya bro until there is a house full of BBEYED in a house full of Afrikans You know the ones the BBeyed chase seeking the big bone! lmao
The only thing. We SHOULD. be discussing is the depravity of the individuals that held innoncent women and. Children for years on end....
Who ever said this Gracias
FIELD:
Read this if you haven't yet
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/08/ariel-castro-ohio-missing-women_n_3235490.html
In the years after his friend's daughter vanished while walking home from school, Ariel Castro handed out fliers with the 14-year-old's photo and performed music at a fundraiser held in her honor.
When neighbors gathered for a candlelight vigil just a year ago to remember the girl, Castro was there too, comforting the girl's mother.
Castro, just like everyone else in the tight-knit, mostly Puerto Rican neighborhood, seemed shaken by the 2004 disappearance of Gina DeJesus and another teenager who went missing the year before.
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Milagros said
People, (those who play chess;) hehehehehe
This is complete inya face arrogance
Moreover, this has set up a lot of pain and confusion for a Boriquen abuela who more than likely has fallen in love with the child? WOW
I would love to be a fly on the wall when he explains this.
i say this because in the native Spanish speaking community (there are no latinos or hispanics!)esp in a a tight one "grandmothers rule" And we never do anything to make them look bad..
Eso se considera una verguenza paras la familia (This is considered a shame on the family) They will be lucky if anyone speaks to them again other than a pub def
Field And others
Good day Afenhamu here
Thoughts:
My mother thinks that after the first kidnap that the other bredren may have become envious and desirous of having a lady of their own.
So to keep the community from becoming too inquisitive, they chose to plot this terrible crime together. laying out their plan to kidnap a female annually or when the need arose.
Which brought us to the question are there more bodies? Are there more babies? Were either men ever married?
20 yrs ago the Seymour ave community in Cleveland. was not as cohesive with our bredren as now although it ran off 1-90
Now its booming
On the East side however, there was the infamous Afrikan Hough communitys 7th ward Cleveland now is like New Orleans Wards!
A bustling former Afrikan working class blue collar community. which went the way of regentrification into the 90's +
The Cleveland clinic then took over and many of the Afrikans desc lost their homes OR sold them
Key points we discussed
2002: Michelle Knight, 20, vanishes. She was last seen at a cousin's house near Lorain Avenue and West 106th Street.
Which brother kidnapped raped and harmed her? Was she raped abused and shared between all three during that first yr. or did her kidnapper hide his doings and later share them?
Lets say YES..Then if this is true her kidnapper involved his bred in a conspiracy.
2003: Amanda Berry, 16, disappears after leaving her job at a Burger King at the corner of Lorain Avenue and West 110th Street, a few blocks from her home LORAIN AVE AGAIN! Did Castro befriend her and kidnap her Had she known him as a customer or coworker?..What made her get in his car?
April 2004: Georgina "Gina" DeJesus, 14, disappears while walking home from school. She was last seen at a telephone booth at the corner of Lorain Avenue and 105th Street
Lorain Ave again?
kidnappers often feel comfy in comm which look like them, and where the style and race of the women, children, mgay or other are more readily available. This is to draw less attn to self
What ever happened in that house of horrors, we must be careful slinging mud and assuming.
What we all know is that the women are alive and out of the hands of their terrorists!
Now the ? becomes
who
what
where
when
how
why
No one can answer these questions better than the ladies Hold on to your seat!
Mom would love this case even though we had a conversation last night in which she denies if I know my mother she would love it
ps Did she tell you she was once a prosecutor and a Magistrate?
Harriet Tubman ran
Field:
This is sad and interesting
Also this is why we should always pay attn to our children and support them
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2321065/Kidnapping-victim-Michele-Knight-hearing-damage-facial-injuries-years-beatings.html
This survivor may be lost to her mother forever;
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First pictures of Michelle Knight before she was kidnapped as it's revealed she has 'hearing damage and facial injuries from years of beatings'
Michelle vanished on August 23, 2002 near her cousin's Cleveland home
Michelle had lost custody of her baby son before she vanished and authorities suggested she left of her own free will after the ordeal
Her mother Barbara Knight has traveled to Cleveland but she has not yet been reunited with her daughter
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She may be blaming her mother for her tragedy
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Michelle Knight, one of three women freed from a decade of imprisonment, is reportedly suffering hearing loss and facial bone damage after years of vicious beatings to her head, it has emerged.
The 32-year-old, who vanished in 2002, was found at a Cleveland home on Monday with two other women and a six-year-old girl - but she has not yet contacted her mother for a reunion.
The first details about Michelle are emerging as images of her have finally been released. They show her as a teenager before she was kidnapped - at a time when she endured an often troubled relationship with her family.
She had given birth to a son who was later taken into the custody of child services, and authorities suggested to her mother that she may have fled following the upset from the ordeal.
Field:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320902/Ariel-Castro-Son-abductor-reveals-father-padlocked-doors-basement-attic-garage-places-werent-allowed-go.html?ICO=most_read_module
'He doesn't deserve to have his own life anymore. He deserves to be behind bars for the rest of her life. I'm just thankful they're alive.'
Among his infrequent contact with his father, who separated from his mother in the 1990s, one recent conversation particularly stands out in Anthony's mind.
In mid-April, he says, his father asked him whether he thought police would ever find Amanda Berry, who escaped the Cleveland home on Monday afternoon.
Who, what when where how and why?
Youve got some nerve STEPHEN.....showcasing this poor mans speaking faults , and miseducation while you support the "Nobel Peace Prize " winner who goes over his kill list 2 days outta every week with the other War mongers in his cabinet...
Leave it to you a TRUE House Negro to point out and SHOWCASE how the subconcious self hatred of some of our brothers is still prevalent.....
HOUSE NEGRO STEPHEN...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320765/Pedro-Castro-pictured-Suspect-said-searching-Amanda-Berry-waste-money.html
Did Senor Pedro know more?
There are too many bred and male sons involved and to me this sends a ding ding ding a red light There is more here!
Who lives next to you have you used your states pedophile website?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320811/Missing-Ohio-girls-Abductor-knew-family-Gina-Dejesus-attended-vigil.html
His daughters best friend yuk!
'"I have a feeling half the ppl who say 'Oooh I love watching him on the internet!' would turn away if they saw him on the street,"'
http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2013/05/07/181982154/are-we-laughing-with-charles-ramsey
Buckwheat Saves the White Girls (I sure does like me some ribs and McDonalds!).
Ah, the heartwarming spectacle of an impoverished black man who does the right thing and then fulfills our stereotypes afterwards. Go ahead, pat the man on the head honey, he won't bite.
See, they're not all dangerous, some of them are actually useful--sometimes. Too bad about the missing teeth and poverty and such.
But let's all just feel good for a moment about feeling good for a moment about this black man.
Okay, throw the man some money and we can go back to our regular cultural programming.
People! parents Like it or not!
I will be away for a few (not in the Buckeye) But will be back you can bet on it!
The majority of rapists, child molestrs and other short penis perverts are adults who seduce children through ethereal and illusive intimidation and persuasion and are known to children as caretakers and safe people
The depraved interbred rapist is usually an adult male (father, stepfather, grandpappy or live-in friend of the mother) who molests the child or children. Got any teens in the house with 44d's..Mom is not you he seeks Trust me
Seriously, in 2013 it can be our next door neighbors The good guy with the red truck and the nice Harley?
He can also be the community clown, the bishop, POPE" teacher and the bus driver?
I would venture and bet$ that Ariels daughters friend had been approached by her father in a subtle non threatening sexual manner before he kidnapped her?
Sleep overs? What had he seen or why did he choose her?
Many cases like these occurs over an extended period of time, occasionally into the victim's adulthood. If he approached her this was normally kept between the perp and his victim.
This type of molestation is usually reported promptly to the police because the trauma to the child is readily apparent.
When i was a young my parents always cautioned me about sleeping over at anyones home or going to any home without their knowldege Now. i overstsnd why?
In my own fam i will NOT! allow any female to sit on any of my MALE families laps! in my presence They know the reasons because we as a family have told them why
The single best cogent and effective means of protecting your child is communication with your child.
Bottom line children have a right to feel comfortable discussing sensitive issues with caretakers/parents, If they don't feel they can talk with you about their true feelings or that they will be criticized for speaking, then you can't expect that they will tell you when/if they are put in an compromising situation by a pervert
People, and esp MEN! teach your family the types of situations to avoid. It is simply not good enough to tell a child to avoid strangers. Most pedophiles are unknown to others but live next door and possibly in our homes.
Lets get real and save the babies
Field have you ever been to Cleveland? Ignorance and coruption run amock in East Cleveland. That Bus driver upper cutting the ghetto rat in that video should give you a hint a the level of ignorance going on there. Let my man have his 15 min's while you might find him embarassing he at least holds down a job and did the right thing.
Self-loathing? As black man (37) who grew up and lives in America, I see the situation in a different light.
Look, he spoke his reality. The point is not going to be lost on every white American. From what we know from the two interviews that have gone viral, this man shows good character and models positive values. He showed his paycheck to Anderson Cooper when the topic of reward money was raised, declining because he has a job and suggesting that any reward go to the victims. His employers, present and past, have praised his work ethic, noting he even does volunteer work. Yet, people see him, his lack of education, his appearance and proceed to stereotype him.
His reality is that, given the choice, most white Americans would run into the arms of the perpetrator(s) in this situation than to Mr. Ramsey based on racial prejudice. Was a part of me embarrassed by his lack of education, sophistication, fluency with the English language? Sure. But his statement is real social commentary regarding this truth.
If what he said, looking at his persona, makes a single white person think and GET IT, good for him and thanks to him. Regardless, not every black person who speaks SPEAKS for all of us. Let us try and move away from that mentality?
NBC affiliate in Cleveland, has also reported that the women were raped and may have been pregnant as many as five times. While with child, WKYC reported, the women were subjected to horrific beatings, and one of the women may have had three miscarriages. The only child known to have survived is a 6-year-old who Berry has said is her daughter.
Yet Field..urrr umm STEPHEN..wants to talk about how uneducated this Black Man sounds like... and what the white folks THINK about it...
Start a new topic.. Im gonna ride on you for this one.... for awhile...
Field "Of course you Negroes all know the drill when it comes to news crews in the hood: they always seem to try to find the most ignorant person to interview."
Anon replied, "I don't think that's fair, frankly. Ramsey didn't act or sound ignorant in any of the interviews I've viewed. In the 911 call, he asks the dispatcher to put himself in the woman's shoes, he tells Anderson Cooper that he bleeds like everyone else, he has a gallows humor and cracks jokes, he expresses disbelief at what his neighbors did, and he says he has trouble sleeping now knowing that women were being raped and tortured in the next house over. He doesn't like the attention he's getting, and he doesn't want a reward. *I just don't understand your calling him "ignorant."* I've no doubt that the first reporters on the scene expected him to be an idiot and were happy to try to exploit that--but he's not."
2:31 AM
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If you don't understand Field calling Mr Ramsey "ignorant", then you don't 'understand' Field. STEPHEN believes himself to be "better" than Ramsey because of his education as a lawyer. You see, Field has a different kind of prejudice but it's just as degrading as white prejudice.
Unfortunately, this kind of thinking runs deep in our race. Its history comes from living in a racist nation, generation after generation. This shit just gets passed down, mostly unconsciously. Our problem is not how Ramsey thinks or how Field thinks. Its about how to break free from both extremes of inferior thinking which continue to imprison us. We are stuck in a shame-based trap that we cannot spring.
Field, "Intrresting comments from some different perspectives.I will stick with my original premise:sadly, there is still a lot of mental slavery here in a America."
6:42 AM
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Mr. Field, I have been with FN for years. I am an educated Black, yet you have called me White because of the way I use a word or a phrase that you say "only Whites use". Now, you are chastising Mr Ramsey for talking in the black vernacular which truly expresses his life experience, but lack of education. One might conclude that you haven't the 'slightest' idea of what it is to be Black.
Also, I have been with FN blog for years and 'completely' understand you sticking with your 'original premise'. There has never been a case 'yet' where you have changed your mind--regardless of the overwhelming evidence against it.:)
You have the mark of a Negro who is too shame-based to admit when he's wrong because it hurts too much. Believe me, I understand.
C.O.J.O.N.E.S!
The Spanish word for BALLS or nuts never changes COJONES
"You gotta' have some cojones, bro. That's all it's about. It's about cojones on this planet," he told CNN's Anderson Cooper.
The Buckeye life saver! senor Ramsey!
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cleveland-hero-charles-ramsey-t-shirt-form-article-1.1338066#ixzz2SjAp4dgj
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Chris-Christie-Weight-Loss-Surgery-Gastric-Lap-Band-Stomach-206394821.html
I love him! and his outspoken no nonsense way of speaking
WAITING FOR THE JODIE ARIAS VERDICT
i BELIEVE THAT LESS THAN A FIRST DEGREE MURDER VERDICT WILL BE ANNOUNCED.
I DO BELIEVE THAT SHE HAS A CASE FOR A GREAT APPEAL
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/Jurors-Deliberate-Arias-Fate-Amid-Spectacle-206240441.html
"a phrase that you say "only Whites use"
"Now, you are chastising Mr Ramsey for talking in the black vernacular which truly expresses his life experience, but lack of education."
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No one is commenting on how Mr Ramsey talks or his use of the language. I don't know where you read that in the original post!
It is exclusively the "white girl running into" comment that is being expounded upon! and the state of mind that would elicit a comment such as that one!
As for the "white words", that was my premise and attempt at levity with you, and not Fields;)
The castro bros from Ohio
http://www.news10.net/video/2364667869001/1/Ariel-Castros-ex-relative-I-want-to-cry-and-vomit
Sad, there is a common feature of men who committ this type of crime
Angry
sadistic
sexually voratious
sociopath
histrionic
psychopath
Wife beater as well..
Had those women been WHITE and the community upper middle class, the police would have done a better job
i say this from first hand knowledge of what it is like to lose a loved one..
People. protect your children
wow!
sheer poetry here today fn!
kudos!
this bro is both a hero and a coon indeed!
just as hobama is both a halfrican american legend and a racist global warlord warlock bankster...
see?
ps:
angel cordero was an equal hero
but he is not a coon
so he has been ignored
shame!
still
kudos to this hero in ohio!
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cleveland-hero-charles-ramsey-t-shirt-form-article-1.1338066
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more on angel c
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cleveland-neighbor-charles-ramsey-freed-captive-women-article-1.1338192
Thank u Desert. What's that old Doobie.Brothers song? Oh yeah, "What a Fool Believes He Sees". :)
he lost me:
growing up in chicago
i saw white girls running up and hugging black men daily
and vice versa
http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/732766242/black-love-and-gray-lies/
that rude inhumane pookie 911 operator is the only one who offended me
shame!!!
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/05/07/amanda-berry-s-911-dispatcher-under-fire-for-blas-response.html
http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/736657405/on-%e2%80%9cdisintegration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-a-brave-and-necessary-literary-masterpiece/
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I find myself wondering how many other psychopaths like the Castro brothers have people collections languishing away in dungeons hidden in plain sight. JC Dugard lived in one not 40 miles from where I now sit for almost 2 decades. How many others might be in the same radius? How many in the whole state or country? Common sense says that there are probably hundreds, if not thousands out there hoping, year after year, for accidental rescue or some chance to reach out for help. Makes me glad that my own grandkids are watched so carefully; I used to think it smothering compared to my own "open door" upbringing.
pedophile psychos do this to thousands of women and girls daily...
this is a common cruel cancer in sexist ageist america...
http://www.missingkids.com/home
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i wonder if these 3 old psycho pedophile monster siblings swill viagra????
what was their family/childhood like?
psycho dna?
shame!!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/aliciabanks
I would think Mr. Ramsey a hero if he were the buck-toothed hillbilly from the Simpsons. The fact that a black man in America, a poor black man in America no less, the very stereotype of a "usual suspect" overcame his cultural conditioning to help a "pretty little white girl (he thought) involved in a domestic" a situation ready-made to turn on him, only makes him more of a hero to me.
Field, you say reporters hit the ignorance jackpot with Mr. Ramsey. How arrogant of you. Charles was simply keeping it real. Do you think he was the only person in this neighborhood with such a demeanor? When I lived in Dallas a lot of the dudes I played dominoes with remind me of Mr. Ramsey. Some of the best times of my life. And I was laughing with them not at them. These were real folks and they kept it real. Did I encounter racism? Hell yeah. This was the south and racism is real. There were lots of times I was called peckerwood, cracker, honkey and god damn white boy there's ignorant people of all races Mr. Field, there was also people of both races who could look past color, and be your friend regardless of color, but not ignore racism. Anyway Mr. Field, I read more ignorance from people who post on your blog, than anything Mr. Ramsey said. For a blog that's supposed to chase racism, most of your posters are racist as hell. All except Desert Flower, I think I might be falling for her.
Black Sage:
I totally agree with your comments at 7:48. I wish that others could see that too. People of color participate in the oppression of people of color.
Education is great and it is a good thing to have. It tends to alienate some folks from their people,their culture, make them look down on their own, and causes a divide. They forget where they come from. Some of them who have never had to experience the poverty of hard times it hardens them with extreme views against their own people. That's sad. A divided house cannot stand. Everyone can't be a doctor or lawyer. Charles goes to work every day and works in a job that highly educated folks don't want to do and they put him down for that. Charles is not out robbing, stealing, and murdering other human beings, but educated Black folks rate him as inhuman.
Yep, they hunger for white folks approval.
They put Charles down because he is not living up to their expectations.
Will Black folks ever get it together? No! Because they value white folks approval more than they do their own people.
Anonymous 4:03:
I agree with what you said too here:
"Charles was simply keeping it real. Do you think he was the only person in this neighborhood with such a demeanor? When I lived in Dallas a lot of the dudes I played dominoes with remind me of Mr. Ramsey. Some of the best times of my life. And I was laughing with them not at them. These were real folks and they kept it real. Did I encounter racism? Hell yeah. This was the south and racism is real. There were lots of times I was called peckerwood, cracker, honkey and god damn white boy there's ignorant people of all races Mr. Field, there was also people of both races who could look past color, and be your friend regardless of color, but not ignore racism."
And to your comment, I say AMEN! I can relate to everything you said because I have had your same experience.
If Charles wants to get a call from Obama or /and Michelle..all he needs to do is come out of the closet and say he's gay. Otherwise..forget it. Saving 3 women and one child from years of imprisonment, abuse and rape ..doesn't count.
Field, honestly:
why is it ignorant to acknowledge that white people are racist? DId he lie?
The fact that journalists wanted and expected Ramsey to be ignorant doesn't make him so. The fact that white men on the internet try to auto-tune him into an ignorant caricature doesn't make him so.
White people don't respect PoC's anger. Ramsey delivered a home truth with irony. We don't blame comedians of color when they do the same thing, and we don't imply that they are cowardly or ignorant.
Ramsey is not responsible for educating white people and solving their racism for them. He told the truth. Yes, his delivery was safe, it didn't automatically wound any white feelings, but the message was astute and on point.
Anyway, in a perfect world, women and girls wouldn't have to run into any man's arms to protect them from another man.
"Mr. Field, I have been with FN for years. I am an educated Black, yet you have called me White because of the way I use a word or a phrase that you say "only Whites use". Now, you are chastising Mr Ramsey for talking in the black vernacular which truly expresses his life experience, but lack of education. One might conclude that you haven't the 'slightest' idea of what it is to be Black."
I agree with you 100%. I too have noticed that about Field. My question to you is why do you call him "Mr"?
I actually really liked Mr. Ramsey & hope that he gets a reward for his actions. And the reason why is because he made it his business! I'm from Camden, NJ & so many people there would have ignored her cries for help there. I know this from my own experience. I was mugged on a corner right near a bodega I had just left 1 day in broad daylight & people watchedit happen & didn't intervene! Even as the punk sucker punched me & proceeded to kick me while ripping my necklace from my neck & earrings from my ears I saw people standing not far from me just watching! Thank God for an elderly gentleman who stopped his van & yelled at the punk. And trust me when I say that being a white female doesn't get you anymore help than the next person in the hood! So thank you Mr. Ramsey for doing something!
JerseyMeshe, I feel you. Amanda and the other three women were very lucky that a man of character like Mr Ramsey was nearby to rescue them.
Of course, some Negroes, like Mr Field, had some issues with Ramsey's comments and lack of education. Can you BELIEVE IT? And Field is Black! America is really a screwed up place, but Ramsey made it a little better for those three ladies. God bless him.
Mr Ramsey let America know that Blacks are still humble folks who know how to act around Whites. For that, Chuck will become a famous Negro, the kind of hero that everybody 'White' loves....the magic Negro!
McDonald's and Ramsey will have a thing going on:
http://money.msn.com/now/post.aspx?post=2b179ff0-49ec-4b52-90d1-78525e9630ea
No, while the magic negro character always saves white children, he or she always does it from within the white family as a domestic or other symbolically lackey position. Think Whoopie Goldberg's Clara in Clara's Heart or every "family film" ever to feature a screwball friendship plot between a precocious little white girl and a (sleep in the barn type) asexually masculine black man.
Is Whoopie a lackey in show biz? I think so. She never stands up for Blacks. In fact, I don't think she ever said a word about OJ. And I bet she won't say a word about Ramsey, either.
"Mr Ramsey let America know that Blacks are still humble folks who know how to act around Whites. For that, Chuck will become a famous Negro, the kind of hero that everybody 'White' loves....the magic Negro!"
*shaking head*
Field, "*shaking head*"
Pardon? Come again? What do you mean?
not sure what to say. This brother apparently has "embarrassed" many black folk with his bad teeth, wild hair, rough around the edges look & animated black colloquial speech. Now...I don't know about you, but every black person prolly knows a brother like this or has run into one. I have...quite a few times. I have seen articulate, educated, well dressed brothers speak in the same way as they recount stories to a black only group.
But WE object to Ramsey PUBLICLY speaking like he was " on the corner". "Educated" blacks are bi-lingual. We speak one way in front of whites folks & another way in front of
" family". If this brother had said all this privately...in the cut...only to other blacks, no one would say shit! Field Negro would be laughing & telling Ramsey "Niggah you so crazy". But Ramsey said his piece to white folks & now WE upset. This brother kept it real, honest & held nothing back. But WE upset.
I hope he takes every dime of the reward money. I hope white folks send him a shit load of money. I hope he makes the talk show rounds...& repeats his story verbatim. I hope some white folks fix his grill, take him to the barber, helps him get a better job and anything else to boost him up. Cause black folks sure ain't gon do squat but cringe & criticize.
Remember Sarge in Soldier Story & Geechie whom he despised? Same thing happening here. This same brother Ramsey...would save our sorry educated asses if /when we needed a " hood soldier"...know what I mean? I am not embarrassed by Ramsey in the least. He represents part of the black experience. There but for.... Black folk are a piece of work! I'm done.
Wow. Have you got this wrong. Your mind is clouded by your racism, perhaps against blacks also.
No way a white person can see this man as just a hero, huh? I do. Apparently you see a bufoon.
And as for Brown, yeah I laughed, since it was funny, but I also thought she was cute as a button.
What's in your heart?
"What's in your heart? "
It isn't banjo music and tap shoes.
Preach it Janice! Amen, amen, and amen again!
hi La! good to see you are still sane and holding things down.
focusing on the guy that worships ww seems off to me. lol. folks ALREADY know there are a grip of males like him. some easier on the eyes, more articulate and educated that hold the same unnatural perspective...and they are not just of the american variety either. maybe folks will get real before the world ends?
what i would like to see someone get brave enough to focus on are the many monsters that are snatching women and children off the street to star in their own personal home made horror movies. anybody care to discuss this latest phenom? probably not...
Blogger La♥audiobooks said...
Why should any black man think such importance of having a young [pretty lil] white girl run up to him or not? Why should that be so meaningful? This too is the type of undignified thinking that has some of us cringing. Clearly the reporter didn't want to go there, it was so irrelevant under the circumstances. I mean really...
It's important because it made him take her seriously. It was one of the things that proved to him that she really needed help. He almost wrote this off as yet another domestic squabble that he might not want to get involved in.
He says this several times. That it's important to get over that feeling of not wanting to get involved and do what's right anyway.
In his experience, a white girl running to a black man means she is in DIRE need of help. That helped that girl escape. God only knows what would have happened if he hadn't believed her immediately. That would have wasted valuable time and she would have had to try and get help elsewhere. Her captor was not that far away. She might have been caught again.
It's also important because Ramsey has a record. It would not take much for people to misunderstand his offer of help as being a threat to young, distraught white girl. He could very well have been seen as the problem, not the solution and even in this day and age, black men who are even thought to have hurt white women do not get off lightly.
So yes, what he thought as a black man is very important and relevant.
Like Matanzas my mother says "Unless and until you walk in the womens shoes and all others have no clue..Esp some short penis man who may have wished he could have been there
People, those who know that i will respond
Afenhamu has a question
Why is it that white boys never recognize that Afrikan men know another Afrikan when they READ his/her writing as well as when they talk?
Its only rocket science, we know that white boys are unhappy and frustrated and that their only, or their main purpose is to disrupt
Afrikans, do not refer to our people as they, them, you people etc Rather, proud Afrikans, knowledgeble Afrikans and non miseducated Afrikans refrain from all labels.. esp the N word.
For the most part educated and conscious Afrikans to not seek to assassinate but rather to educ and build up
Further, conscious Afrikans love our people, even during the hard times WHY? We overstand our story and his STORY" vs trying to make oneself look good and another look bad. That is not a debate point
White boys don't get it do they?
Bottom line, I know that most Afrikans know the truth, albiet my thing is why the attempt at misrepping what is wrong with accepting a culture?
I love it, my mother educated and showed me a few writings here, and after the disrespect I read directed towards her, I know who I will not be engaging. I will simply stick my Afrikan nose up into the air and breathe
Last Field
Do you know her? I like her style top of the line An Afrikan with eyes open..If she were a man is\'d say she has cojones
http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/05/10/the-syllabus-what-you-need-to-know-for-the-may-11-mhp/
Mr. Ramsey rescued those three women from an enslaved situation. I'm sure Mr. Ramsey was as handsome to them for a minute, as they were pretty to him for a minute. Congratulations to Mr. Ramsey for his bravery. He had no idea what awaited him as he approached that door. Makes no difference his speech patterns, he was honest about his feelings and expressed himself well under the circumstances. Had it been me, they wouldn't have been able to hand the microphone my way, the expletives would have been flying. Why do they have Ariel Castro under suicide watch?? Let him go!! That's how he's going to end up anyway. End it now!!!!
First off Kudo's to Janice..I totally agree with your sentiment...
Mr. Field, I eagerly awaited your views in regards to Charles R. Let me say that I was flabbergasted, taken aback and in awe because I never imagined or expected a bougie response like this from you.... Mr. R. was colorful..in fact I was relieved that he didn't portray the stereotypical witness that is most often displayed in the media.....I logged on looking for Field negro and instead I got the HOUSE Ni%%er!
Wow, can you guys stop talking about him like he's personally done something horrible to you? He's not your fucking bro, he's just another dude.
And this comment.. "Of course you Negroes all know the drill when it comes to news crews in the hood: they always seem to try to find the most ignorant person to interview."
are you fucking kidding me? NO SHIT they're going to interview the man that - allegedly - freed those girls from their kidnappers. How is that the reporters faults? What, do you think this is some elaborate conspiracy set up by the news to make "Negroes living in America" look bad? I swear, you're just looking for things to bitch about. If he was ignored, you would have had something to say about that, wouldn't you? Yeah. So shut up about it already.
Coming from an Australian's point of view, we see a fucktonne of fat-ass white Americans being ignorant shits every single day on the news, but do we look at them and go "LOL WHITE PEOPLE ARE SO DUMB"? No. We judge PEOPLE as INDIVIDUALS; we don't group them into what skin colour they are and judge them that way, and you should start doing that, too.
Oh and please, tell me, why is it that they're allowed to interview rednecks and poke fun at the shit Romney says, but not at someone who shares the same skin colour as you?
Cleveland is ghetto as hell. This dude was funny. I don't think he was ignorant just a regular guy who saved some ladies. More power to him!
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